Thanks to all for al the years of good conversation and debate. Got my juices moving a few times.

My opinions have all been stated. This site has been an important part in some of my 're-education' and I learned a lot about a lot of things -not just cannabis prohibition- while actively posting here.

I don't believe in the system in any way shape or form, and can no longer in good conscience continue to ignore the errors of compromise that for me are the crux of the entire matter. I gave up writing and direct communication in the 70's when it became obvious my peers were all about compromising the integrity of the truth for their individual comfort zones. I chose music as the medium, and I stuck with it until is just became overwhelmingly obvious that the handful of people who appreciate it were not enough to sustain the time spent on it. So I began writing again.

This site honed my wordsmith skills. After seeing/reading a couple of mainstream, popular novels that movies were made of, and the movies were better than the books...I realized that I could do better. So I have.

FOM, thanks for your incredible steadfastness and focus, I will always admire you for this. Hope, thanks for your personal touch, even if it was sometimes a bit offensive -but I am surely aware that the truth is not always pleasant to look upon. I am sure you found my words offensive from time to time as well.

Afterburner, Had Enough, Kapt, Sam, GCW, most of all of you, I have fond feeling when I look at your nicknames. Everything must come to an end eventually. I think for me and Cnews, that time has come.

Thanks again for the years of interesting words.

Peace to you all.

Terry https://www.facebook.com/pages/T-E-Hubbard/316986498415713

https://www.facebook.com/Wormwood.Series

It’s been a journey for sure…and it is time to continue on…I’ve had a lot of support from many areas and it is hard to cover them all…some have helped in many ways they will never know…

Lot of help from here too…and even here you don’t know the amazing amount of strength I’ve found here…I’ve been checking in from time to time…but have refrained from posting…no particular reason…just the way it went...but just reading and listening did much for me…I love you guys here…The world could use a little of the vibs that emanate from here…

It’s amazing how such small things you see is really much larger than life...but at the same time really, its all part of life…

There is no…should have did this…wish I would have done that…

The past is in the past…we cannot bring it back and live there…it is behind us...it cannot be here…

The future is not here yet either…so also we cannot live there…

All we really have is the present…‘the right here and now’…

She was a very blessed lady to have you love her. And of course, obviously, you were blessed to have her love for you. I'm sorry for all the grief you've had to suffer with her passing, but I'm glad for the love you had. A treasure forever.

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A special Thank You…

Two years ago today at 5:00 am…I was holding the hand of my Bride at her very last heartbeat…

It’s been quite some adventure adjusting to the different life…I’ve made to this point so it looks like things will finally be okay…

Many thanks to all who has supported me through these trying times…old friends friends who are no longer with us and new friends that never even knew her…and a very special shout out to my musician friends…again, old musician friends, musician friends who are no longer with us, and some new musician friends…playing music helps to soothe the soul way beyond what can be described in words here…but the musicians understand exactly what it means…Thanks again for giving me the space…True brothers and sisters of mankind…and you all know who you are…

Many have spoken, and sent acts of comfort…and I’m truly amazed of the amount of it generously sent my way…and realizing I had many more friends, extended family in my life than I really knew…again, you all know who you are…

In the long run I’m am the fortunate one here…It was I, who was able to experience more than 32 years of sharing a life with another, and good one too…many people live their whole lives and never experience that warmth…so yes, you can say…I’m the fortunate one…Love is the most powerful force in the universe…and I not only got to see it…but were also given the opportunity to experience it…and that I did…

After three months of shock, about twelve months of bewilderment, and the rest just wondering what direction I shall take, it is now the time to get back going again…I feel the strength that you all have helped for me to help myself, to re-gain…and that also is very special to me…

So with that said…Thank You all once again…

Nice clean bass part...powerful lyrics...

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Ben E. King - Stand by me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX--7gFHkU0&feature=related

This one will probably make you weep, too... but we're still here.

Duh!!!

Seems like forever.

:0)

Tracy Chapman - Stand by me

A tune I’ve practiced up on to play at the local Jam Nights...

Easy tune...but nice solid bottom end...and a lotta room to spice it up..

There is this singer...and boy does she ever belt it out...

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Tracy Chapman - Give me one reason...

I hope this doesn't seem out-of-place, but man do I miss your sharing musical links with us for a Friday or Saturday evening.

Peace to all that seek it...and even to those that don’t...

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The Beatles - And I Love Her

Probably the only sure way to get a recording is to be nice to the takilmafm folks and do an interview, so we will. I'll have a link to it at some point.

Just for a little history; This band ARC was my first band, way back in the early 80's. The drummer is the same, and our bass player (from the early days) just popped back into the picture after nearly 30 years of being 'lost.' He is playing guitar now. Our orignal lead guitarist, Tongo, is no longer with us, and we only have one female vocalist.

The band ended with the tragic death of one of the female vocalists infant son, and never quite got back together again, until now. We found out one day before our performance, that Bilbo Baggins (a real person folks) recently passed. He was the husband of the vocalist and father the child hat died. The last performace of ARC was dedicated to the child, this one to the father.

It was a good set, I lost about 20 years for an hour. We rocked!

I'll make sure to have a recording available as soon as I have it. I would like to hear it as well, you never know on stage, except from other people, how it really sounded unless you have recording. I'm going on how it felt, and how the people reacted.

BTW****NOTE****

The 40th Rainbow Gathering in SO Washington State is underway. I am heading there in the next few days.

Remember the silence and noon prayer on the 4th -remember the OM?

I never have any luck getting anything that happens at takilmafm. Runruff's interviews and readings or anything.

It is good to hear that you'll had a very successful performance and a good day.

We will be doing an interview in the next few months with takilmafm, and they recorded it, so there will be another chance.

Live stream available here;

http://www.takilmafm.com/

click the 'listen here' link.

I am performing with the band ARC -first act of the day. There will be live music all day long and into the night. Its an audio insight into some of what makes our little part of the State of Jefferson so special.

Past the fear, past the pain,

is a place where we will meet again.

Don't you know, can't you see?

We were always here, and we will always be.

Everybody knows that Love is the answer

but it really ain't been easy just to get this far

when you been taught to be something other than you are,

striding boldly through the darkness,

and tryin' so hard to see.

Well I know sometimes life is so damn hard

you want to lose your mind

but don't let go,

'cause life and love are all we'll ever know.

No matter what they tell you, don't let 'em keep you down.

A storm is a-comin' got to find the higher ground.

hearts are all grievin' for the ones we had to leave,

and the only salvation is the faith to believe.

Past the tears, after rain,

is a place where we will meet again.

We all know, we can see.

We were always here and will always be.

Past the years, after war,

is a place where we will live once more.

-its just a song (one I may have forgotten the melody too) but it speaks my heart.

Love, Martha

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I know you're out there somewhere

Somewhere, somewhere

I know I'll find you somehow

Somehow, somehow

And somehow I'll return again to you

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Moody Blues - I Know You`re Out There Somewhere

When the first week went by I found myself thinking that it has already been a week, then the first month went by…now I’m at the sixth month…

Well we made it this far…so…I guess the next first will be the one-year mark.

I was there with her holding her hand at her very last heartbeat. I’ve had a lot of things taken from me in my lifetime…but being there to the very end is one thing nobody or anything can take away me…I’d say that is forever…

I guess I’ll be okay…but probably still have quite a ways to go yet…

Many people have extended their love and support…and to all those…I thank you kindly…it certainly has helped to get through the process.

If you have somebody to love…go hold their hand and give that person a big hug…and just be one with each other…

Love…The most powerful force in the universe…

Peace…

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Eric Clapton - River Of Tears (Live) (Video Version)

I can only hope you do…You are one that truly understands…

I feel it an honor to be with you…

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the beatles/ in my life

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI0Q8ytD44Y

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The Beatles-While My Guitar Gently Weeps

(Just picked up on this thread, belatedly.)

*HUG*

The outstretched finger arcs downward into the still pond,

sending ripples out across the water for a brief time.

'Til it lifts up again to whence it came,

but from which it was never separate.

I’ve got an idea on how to meet him…

I will probably be here Tuesday…

Pinellas MeetUp

I love that song. Thank you.

Time is making its adjustments, and I’ve been trying to adjust to them as well.

Tears are still being shed…

I’ve attended events that I normally do not do, and have been around a lot of people. It seems the more people I’m around, the more things seems easier. Including this place.

It’s all right, but still have a way to go yet.

Thank you all…

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Traveling Wilburys - End Of The Line

I knew your Bride's health was compromised. I'd hoped not as much as it obviously was. It was obvious from the way that you spoke of her that you loved her very much.

My feelings about what you are going through are very powerful and they are about love and warmth and caring very much. Since I've learned what has happened, I've wept , and I've prayed, and I've hugged you in my heart, hoping that somehow you might, in the unfathomable ways of this life, realize the warmth of my caring and genuine spiritual affection for you and take some little comfort from it.

All Things Must Pass - George Harrison

Sometimes I’m ok with it…Other times it feels like my heart has been torn from my chest.

It comes and goes…It’s kinda like watching the waves roll in on a beach.

Some waves roll in easy…and go out easy.

Some waves roll in easy and rush right back out.

And some waves come crashing in hard…and churn the sands up.

Anybody who has spent time around the water and who has observed the wave action will know no matter how easy the waves com and go, will also know that about every fifth, or maybe the tenth, or sometimes the third wave (very random depending on conditions) will be more aggressive than that of the previous and following waves.

I will be ok in time, as I have no choice in the matter, I have to let it hurt at times and experience the pain. For me it’s part of the healing process, and part of the love that I am very fortunate to know and feel.

The love that museman talks about are the real deal…

Every one has it…But not all realize it’s there and its powerful force…Some live their whole lives and never slow down enough and look at the beauty all around us. It’s there…just stop and look.

When the Power of Love exceeds the Love of Power, we will then know and experience peace.

It is that love and affection that will carry me through these times.

I’ve cried enough to fill the Gulf of Mexico, and will still shed many more tears…But …I am one tears easily. Not the manly thing to do…But certainly the real thing to do…

I’ve had endless thoughts and prayers from people all around me. Have received hugs & kisses, and still receiving them, but the posts that were made here and sent my way do more for me than I can ever describe. I will try…but I just can’t cover it all.

Museman…You are holding me…and we ARE crying together…maybe you just don’t know it, but then again I think you can feel it, and what you wrote couldn’t have been written better…and that’s why you wrote it, because you are holding me.

FoM…I know you have been concerned about my absence, I’ve thought of it on a continuous and daily basis…And I was concerned about leaving you to wonder what was going on. It was troubling my spirit about leaving you in limbo, which is not a fair way to treat you. I’ve been feeling the vibes for about a month or more. I feel really blessed to be part of the love you share with others. And that love should not be abused.

Hope…I was really concerned about you too. I know you are fighting the battle of your life. I didn’t want news like this to shake you to a point of despair. I thank you for sharing. You hang in there and tell that Grim Reaper to go back to hell where he came from, and give him a spit in the eye and tell it’s from me.

BGreen…You are correct about keeping in touch here…forgive me, but I had to do it the way I did. Timing BGreen…And because it did it this way…your ceremony will be a powerful, and meaningful one. And I feel good that I will have had some impact on such an important event. You know what they say…timing is every thing. And also…things happen for a reason…

Just one more Moondance ???…I have a lot of affection for people and things that went before…and I have it for people and things that are still here…In time, I might be dancing again…I will just flow with the forces. I will not try to fight the currents and try to make things happen; instead I will just go with them. That is the way I feel it should be for the time being.

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OTIS REDDING: (Sittin' On) The Dock of the Bay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzrXc68gNjQ

My heart is truly broken for Had Enough and the tears won't stop.

Please, never again think that sharing your feelings with your friends here at CNews is creating a "pall" over the site. The only thing that does that is anger and fighting. It hurts me so much that you didn't let us shoulder some of the pain you were in. That's what we do on this site. FoM and I were just talking last night about how special this CNews family is. You're not alone when you've got the collective energy of so many loving and caring friends.

Please, Had Enough and anybody else, remember we're here for you.

Yet, let this be a comfort to you, if possible;

In our faith and belief in greater things there is hope and promise of eternal life. I personally have seen some parts of the nature of this hope and promise. It's not awaiting some great dispensation of special planetary alignment or fulfillment of prophecy, but is inherent in our spirit.

The powers of the world have conspired to obscure these things from our consciousness, so that their ways and means of fear may continue to hold our consciousness at length, away from the sure and certain KNOWLEDGE of our eternal nature.

The bonds of true love are as eternal as any gift of our Creator can be. They are the fundaments of forever.

Your loss is immeasurable, incomparable, and the source of the deepest pain known to us all, yet know that the loss is temporary. Take some comfort in the FACT that your love is the savior, and that all that was, or will be contained within that love is saved, and held safe towards the next time, in time, or eternity that we come again to share the life and love of Creation.

Only the remembrance can fill that pain now. And it is a great sadness we live with. Yet the love does not stop, or 'die,' it continues.

As a brother I would hold you, and cry with you if I could, for even as I am distant, my tears share some small part of your grief, small but sincere.

I am telling you nothing that you are not aware of, just lending my support and prayer.

Thank you for allowing us to share some of the pain and sadness, for that too is a part of love.

Peace to you.

Terry

“Love is patient, love is kind. And it is not jealous;

It does not brag, it does not boast, it is not arrogant.

It is not act unbecomingly; it is not seek it’s own, it is not provoked;

it does not take into account a wrong suffered, does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth:

Bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things

My spirit has been restless/troubled for quite some time now, and I’ve been having a really, really hard time coming to peace with myself.

I kept looking for the source…I thought it might be the troubled economy, and watching a small floundering occupation we have worked very hard at, vaporize slowly but surely.

I kept talking to my bride about this. I told her that we’ve worked so hard and now we are just watching it all fade away.

We talked more…I told her I’ve jumped through so many hoops, worked endless hours…put up with stuff most people cannot even conceive, more or less even deal with it, and how we never had a lot of money, but we were always able to have enough to get by, and sometimes maybe a little extra. I told her that I never let the lack of money or possessions trouble me…but now it had got to me and I can’t seem to shake it, like I always have in the past. I kept telling her this isn’t like me…I told her several times, I can’t come to peace with myself and the shock wave is reverberating through the whole household causing even more bad vibes.

More of many conversations…

Again I had said that I’ve worked my ass off, sacrificed the gain of material possessions, I’ve tried very hard for over 30 years to keep this household together, and now look, It’s crumbling away. She responded back to me, you didn’t try…you did it, and have been doing it…and you are still doing it. She told me that somehow we would make it, like we had always had.

Well I think I’ve found the source of those troubled vibes I couldn’t shake that I was picking up…

My Bride died in December at 54 yrs of age.

She had been diagnosed in 1999 with a nasty disease from a blood transfusion that was contaminated with the Hep C virus she received around 1988 and had been giving a life expectancy of about 5 yrs. So when 2006 & 7 rolled by, we talked about how she beat the odds. And how she was looking and feeling good. Got many comments from people how good she looked it appeared like she was getting healthy again. Some people who knew us told me at times she didn’t look sick at all.

The last 2 yrs or so she had been feeling not so well.

The last 6 months or so she was in a lot worse shape that what she would talk about, but still, I knew her health seemed to be failing at an accelerated rate. I just knew.

Many little pieces of a puzzle have been fitting together.

She had been going to the doctors more than usual, saying they wanted to check this and that. She would always say the tests came back okay. Or that they are going to adjust her medications. Then she would be off for another test. More tests than usual.

She was having a difficult time keeping up with simple things like paperwork. Whenever I brought these many small errors to her attention, she would always have an excuse like…I didn’t have the right eyeglasses on…Or the phone rang in the middle of that, or so and so came by. She also was spending a lot of time being quiet, when I noticed this I would sometimes talk to her, other times I would just let her be.

Other times she appeared extremely aggravated.

She would forget a lot of little things like, not turning off the lights when she was through, sometimes forgetting to turn the oven off. Sometimes I would find her lying on the floor or sitting somewhere in a very incoherent state. A few times she would have a series of seizures. Her mental capacities were deteriorating aggressively the last 6 months or more.

She was really excited about traveling to see her father on his farm this coming springtime. She kept telling me he was in bad shape and she would like to see him before it gets too late. After hours of conversations with him this last few weeks…I find out he is not in as bad of shape than what I was led to believe. He is having some health problems and issues, but he tells me he is dealing with it and is relatively okay for now. He is not ready to go skydiving, but he is hanging in there.

She wanted to see him before she left this earthly place, is what I believe.

Last September her sister that was a year older than her 55, died suddenly of a heart attack. A week later the son of this sister couldn’t handle it and committed suicide. This physically shook my bride up quite considerably to the point of me telling her to have the doctors check her out. She thought me telling her to go see the doctor was odd, because she knew I didn’t have a lot faith in our healthcare system unless you are wealthy. But to give credit where credit is due, she had an excellent relationship with her doctors. These were basically the same doctors that were with her from the start, they always seemed to go the extra step for her, even when it came to the financial end of it. Many times there were little or no charges for some things.

Through the course of the events, I’ve had to deal with many of the doctors and specialists on a one on one basis. The things they were talking to me about, verses what she was telling me weren’t quite the same.

Our sons and myself have been talking about all these odd things we have been observing as of late.

For what ever reason she kept this to herself, that is, if she was doing that… I will never know…

Was it for the sake of me, was it for the sake of her, or was it for the sake of all of us. I will never know…only she knew…again, that is, if she was keeping it from us. But again…she wasn’t the same girl the last year or so, as she was before.

I was there with her at the critical care unit, holding her hand as I watched her last heartbeat.

The nurse had tears streaming down her cheeks as the monitor readings slowly went down. She asked me if she could come over to my side of the bed and give me a hug. I told her that I would take all the hugs I could get.

As she was squeezing me she kept telling me what great guy I am. I told her you don’t even know me, except for the last three days, and how can you say that, and I’m not any of those things, I just am what I am and that is all that I am. She wiped some of the tears from her eyes and gave me another hug and said that is why you are such a terrific guy.

Well I don’t know how terrific of a person I am…But I do know I have this huge hole in my heart that will take a long time to heal…if it ever will…and I know that I must let it heal…

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Van Morrison - Moondance

Aphrodite´s child-The four horseman

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=selfqEH-JnY

And when the lamb opened the First seal,

I saw the first horse.

The horseman held a bow

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Now when the lamb opened the Second seal,

I saw the second horse

The horseman held his sword

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The leading horse is white

The second horse is red

The third one is a black,

The last one is a green

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The leading horse is white

The second horse is red

The third one is a black,

The last one is a green

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And when the lamb opened the Third seal,

I saw the third horse.

The horseman had a balance

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Now when the lamb opened the fourth seal,

I saw the fourth horse.

The horseman was the pest

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The leading horse is white

The second horse is red

The third one is a black,

The last one is a green

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The leading horse is white

The second horse is red

The third one is a black,

The last one is a green

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The leading horse is white

The second horse is red

The third one is a black,

The last one is a green

Jefferson Airplane "Saturday Afternoon" Woodstock 1969 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pP77jXqjHlU&NR=1

Joan Baez- We Shall Overcome (Woodstock 1969) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQiIZXkt2RM

Bert Sommer - "Jennifer", Woodstock 1969 (DVD) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB1pV8zRVaw&feature=related

Jimi Hendrix ... Janis Joplin ... Joe Cocker ... The Band ... Creedence Clearwater Revival ... Santana and more!

It’s another Q107 Legends Of Classic Rock live tribute show! The 2009 Q107 Summer Bash: A 40th Anniversary Tribute to the performers of Woodstock, exclusively from Classic Rock Q107! http://www.q107.com/ConcertsandEvents/QSummerBash2009/Home.aspx [page includes some youtubes of original Woodstock performances]

Woodstock '69 Song List http://www.woodstock69.com/Woodstock_songs.htm

Forget Woodstock, Charles Manson was the real face of 1969. Murray Whyte. Aug. 08, 2009. Nostalgia tells us 1969 was the height of hippiedom, when individualism, non-conformity and the creative impulse reigned. The dark underside of those ideals gave America a bloody jolt ... http://www.thestar.com/news/insight/article/678160

On a brighter, lighter note here are some pictures and nostalgic text to help us remember what made Woodstock special and who we were & what we tried to accomplish in those glorious years:

Woodstock concert-goers on the roof of a VW in 1969 http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//090810/482/096822ef37cb47f58059e7125b84d88f/

We are the cops of America, The special elite,

Better do what we say, ‘cause we’re the kings of the street.

We got a mandate from hell, To secure Satan’s reign,

And though the people have spoken, And it causes us pain,

To witness any liberty other than our own,

we think the concept of freedom is way over blown.

Better pay attention To the rules of our game.

‘cause once we get you in our system, your life will never be the same.

We’re the cops of America, You better watch out,

We’re gonna shoot you down, If you dare to speak out.

We just love this war, That ‘ol Ronnie created,

It gave us such power, we are over-inflated.

And thanks to bushy criminals, We got more rights than you,

Unless you got lots of money, Then to you we are true blue.

The economy may be busted, But we’re stocked up for the war,

With guns, cars, and armor, And lots of money for more.

We had to close the libraries, So we could hoard the funds,

And cut short education, Gotta buy more guns.

We’re the cops of America, The people just don’t rate,

We’re better than you, And so is the state.

We built lots of prisons, To put the people in,

Though the premise we use, Might get a little thin.

You have no constitution, Its just paper to us,

Of course most of us can barely read, What’s all the fuss?

All you liberals be damned, It doesn’t matter who you elect,

We’re Lucifers chosen, It will have no effect.

We’re the cops of America, And we are never wrong.

We’ll murder old ladies Cause the neighbors smoked a bong.

We’re the cops of America, Do your hear that sound.

It’s our siren of terror as we race trough your town.

No matter what we do, We will always be cop,

We’re the cops of America,’ Who’ll make us stop?

I have studied prophecy from the Revelations to the Mayan Calendar, and met a few scholars of them along the way.

Prophecy, contrary to popular belief is not some kind of edict from God about 'how the future is going to be.' In order to get a good understanding of the principles and intent of true prophecy, there are several variables and distinctions that have to be clarified and established.

Prophecy is not 'divination' of the future, or some kind of 'clarivoyant' revelation of a fixed, unchangeable future, prophecy is a direct warning from God, a gift of understanding about the possible futures awaiting us.

The intent and purpose of prophecy, is not to create fear and apprehension about tomorrow, but to embolden and motivate us today. If you have reasonable expectation that tomorrow will yield some undesirable results based on the decision one makes today, it is highly likely effort will be made to make the correct decision. If, however, you believe as religious doctrine would have you; that prophecy is some kind of inevitable 'judgement', unavoidable, and most certainly dire, you don't have a lot of motivation to make changes, what's the point?

The intent of prophecy is to warn us. It is a signpost telling us that the bridge is out just ahead, or that, if there is a big storm, the bridge is likely to be washed out.

When first I came into the awareness fo prophetic events and unfolding, my first perspective was one of expectation, and rigid interpretation of a planned future, already in progress. In my life I have had prophetic expectation of events several times (as have many others) that turned out completely different than my expectations, yet somehow, in retrospect, the parameters of the prophetic potentials were fulfilled. I have seen much prophecy fulfilled, and have reasonable expectation to see much more, but for me, or anyone else to claim to know the timetable -other than as a potential- is ridiculous.

The greatest Prophet of them all (in my opinion) stated, in reference to prophecy of 'the end times' "No man knows the time, not even the Son of Man."

Having witnessed a partial awakening -that I'd almost given up on- in the past few years I have rekindled my enthusiasm for that awakening, and with some hope, new expectations have come into my consciousness. I surely do expect some major eventualities to come about around the time of 2012, yet past experience has taught me to be more patient and observant, rather than speculative on the unknown (tomorrow.)

Too many people live their lives expecting certain things to be done for them, like how God and Jesus will save us no matter how lazily we go about our spirituality. These people tend to view prophecy as doctrinized; a fixed, unchangeable future beyond their control or influence. These people are the fodder for an ignorant world, they fear, they fight, they force their way through 'law', and the fruit of their labor is an unending procession of misery and suffering for humanity and creation.

Nostradamus, like many other 'prophets' was gifted with vision. The purpose of those visions was not to provide the tabloids with filler, or to give fear-mongering sensationalists a reference text to batter 'the fear of God' into minds and hearts, no the purpose, the reason Nostradamus wrote them down was to provide pre-eminent understanding as preparation for possible future events in the hope that some few wise men and women would utilize the information towards correcting error, instead of just laying down and accepting the inevitability the churches, and ruling factions wish us to. The fact that the information appears to be 'encrypted' -in prose and poetry- is merely protection to prevent reiteration, and therefore ensure that the content is delivered to those who can 'read between the lines' and get the information without it being transliterated into some kind of doctrinal interpretation.

Prophecy is also a gift for those who suffer. It is a hopeful possibility of a better future, because at the end of all prophecy is the reconcilliation of God and Man, and the promise of all things good arriving in our reality at last. That is the intent of prophecy; to provide us with extra information to help us get over the hurdle and limitations of fear. The extent that one can believe (both positively and negatively) is the power that fuels the ability to change tomorrow today, or ensure that it doean't change at all -it is a choice, and prophecy is intended to help us make better informed choices for the future, not build fortresses to 'ride out armageddon' or create seperatist, judgemental religious cults that have agendas of perpetuating ignnorance instead of enlightenment.

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Whatever is in store--a massive cosmic collision, a global environmental disaster, an Armageddon-like religious showdown, or a more subtle transformation--many believe that December 21, 2012 will mark a major shift in the history of our planet.

There is no cogent distinction between the sobering facts and hysterical fiction--what, if any, modern scientific proof exists? Is there any other compelling evidence throughout history that 2012 will be a year of unprecedented, deadly upheaval?

This special looks for the parallels between the nightmarish daily headlines and the 2012 prophecies from Nostradamus and others.

From the mystical realms of the Guatemalan jungles to the Hopi elders and Mayan shaman to respected thinkers of the modern age--Nostradamus' doomsday warning will be cast in a frighteningly modern context.

Rating: TVPG

Running Time: 120 minutes

atha yoga anusasanam

yogash chitta vritti nirodha

tada drastuh svarupe avasthanam

I understand what you are saying, however, just going with the surface meaning, I can say that there is 'one single way' -its called consciousness. In my perception no matter what you throw at human unconsciousness; money, technology, etc., without the consciousness there to recieve and use correctly, it is a waste. Getting enough of the population to conscious levels of being is the real trick, and that will definitely take 'a combination of things,' and not all of them are in our hands and control.

"Mankind has evolved technology to a point where it can be very beneficial to all of mankind, so why not use it and help it evolve even more. It’s here and it isn’t going to go away. As long as it is being used for good and instead of disastrous power control trips, I am all for it."

Here is where I depart from 100% agreement.

Let me break it down further; I personally have discovered a greater, more potent, sytem and technology potentially of more benefit -not just to man, but to the entire living planet, as well as the local universe.

The Living Creation -just the parts that we can see-reveals an intelligent design and function -a living, organic system, that is far beyond our current understanding, and as sophisticated, intricate, and 'complicated' as any system invented by man.

When I attempt to list the 'benefits' of technology, they all come with a dark side, a bad side-effect. It seems that technology has bettered us, we live longer...I just sat here for a few minutes trying to find another 'benefit' of technology that isn't outflanked by waste, destruction, human suffering, and the continuing control of the elite who deem who is worthy to recieve the benefits of their wonderful technology...couldn't do it.

There is one thing that I can see that benefits us in the long run; Everything technological, is but a synthesised copy of the organic original. As technology gets more refined in its emulation of nature, we begin to get a better undersanding of nature. For example; computers, and the internet.

The computer is very closely modelled on the faculties of mind, and brain -I, for one, in gaining understanding of how a computer worked as a system, I gained insight into the workings of the mind and brain.

As the internet blossomed I got a conceptual understanding of another network that has been around a long long time, but denied by the very 'science' that emulates it. There are names for that network; 'Akasha, Astral Plane' and others I am not aware of.

The parallel between the two systems, one organic, the other devised, is in my perception, striking.

The irony of the situation does not pass me by.

However, here is the bottom line as I understand it; technology itself is a symptom of deep denial. Originally there was a plan to integrate mankind into the earth matrix, and if that plan had been followed, by now our abilities to use the faculties of own nature, as well as nature at large would make the 'modern age' look like the early dawn of man. But that didn't happen.

The beings that are partly revealed in zeitgeist -by the historical effects -, false authority, false spirituality, false knowledge, are the ones responsible for propagating technology- as a replacement system that THEY COULD CONTROL.

I thoroughly understand that this particular knowledge is suppressed and denied by all that is considered status quo. It is to be expected that the truth about the ruling class be kept from common knowledge.

At the time that I recieved this information, I was a 'rising star' in the Rainbow. The understanding that all works of mans hands -except that which aids in providence - the physical sharing of substance, and the renderings of art and music, is vain, hit me hard. I had an electric rock 'n roll band. The realization that all my tools were the result of fallen technology made me (temporarily) give up music. I tried to give away all my instruments, but there were some, wiser than I at the time that prevented it.

As time, and further prayer and investigation ensued, I realized that technolgy, though invented by the Nephalim (for reasons which go way too far into sci-fi like aspects to try and explain here -I go into it more in my book "What is real-part 1" available on my site.) is like so many aspects of corruption taken up by the children of God, and turned into socially beneficial tools. "Swords into plows."

I realized that, though we as a race have fallen far from our intended state, and in my vision we were likened to a pile of moldy-rotten rags (compared to what we could have been) making the best of the situation is one of the things that makes humanity great, and makes the angels jealous. Arranging that pile of rags into art is what the best of us is doing in the world.

I realized that when it comes time to dismantle the machine, a screwdriver works better than a rock.

Primitivism, contrary to status quo 'science' is not the 'natural' state of man. That is a condition brought on by the usurpation of the Garden by fallen beings. The fact that, if tomorrow our infrastructure collapsed -globally- many many people would 'revert' to primitivism, not because it 'is in their natures' but because they have been kept so far from true knowledge of their own abiities within the framework and systems of Creation, they have no connection with their natural foundation, therefore they would have no idea what to do, or where to go. So they'd live in caves making stone tools and such.

I took anthropology in college, so I understand how the 'modern scientific mind' tends to reject such perspective, but my personal experience and source-knowledge has established it pretty solidly within my awareness.

Thusly, I have had to accept the fallen technology, and attempted to use it -like a screwdriver- for the purpose of expanding the consciousness it will take to get us collectively back on the path we had been on before the kings and princes started assimilating us -like the Borg in Star Trek- into their systems of conquest and control. The wise men, the 'prophets' were almost all murdered, As 'religion' gained control in our mass consciousness, fear and loathing replaced faith and belief in the actual existing systems of nature, and magic nearly died.

The slow evolution of consciousness was stopped nearly dead in its tracks. In my mind it wasn't until Buddha and Yashua that we even began to turn around.

I enjoy comfort, and personally prefer living in a house with electricity (though I prefer solar, or wind) than living in a cave, with only a fire to stare at for entertainment. However that doesn't prevent me from striving to return to the path of Creation, and I certainly can't defend the error.

I have tapped into the global network of consciousness, so I know it is real. I have seen what scientists refer to as 'physics' defied, and that it is not as 'fixed and unmutable' as they'd like us to believe. And I had witnesses. I have seen the power of collective consciousness. Within that lies the potential to provide everything, and more, that 'technology' is said to provide us now -without the corrupted aspects, and in complete harmony with all of nature around us.

How long it will take to get there is anyones guess. I believe we are on the threshold, indeed, across the threshold of that consciousness right now, and at the rate things are excellerating, 2012 may very well be the turning point that so many are expecting.

Improving on the technology that we have, to make it less damaging to our environment, and accessible to everyone, not just the economicly blessed, is acceptable to me - as long as a substantial effort is recognized as necessary, and made to re-integrate our consciousness with that of the Earth, and its systems, because that is where we are heading -have been all along, but with the constraints and conditions of cntrolled societies (by the Nephalim and their progeny) we have been making little progress.

In other words, if intuitive interface with natural, organic systems is focussed on at least as much as technology, then I am happy, because I know that ultimately the power and gifts of our own stifled natures far outshines that of the technolgy of the fallen. And when mankind gets the opportunity to view all his options, I am quite confident that most will choose reality over contrivance.

I am sure that I didn't cover everything, but I hope I've given some understanding into my reasoning, and that you see that I am not an 'enemy of technology' but an advocate of a better one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8YFZJK3arg

Tuesday is good too…

Perception: I cannot see a one single way to bring the world to where it belongs. It will take a combination of things. I’m watching these forces unfold all around us as you are too. The Venus Project I see as just a small part of it. It’s concept can be used for a better mankind, but also it too has some the same flaws that could be used against mankind for the enrichment of a few, but not as many as we see now with our current Ponzi Schemes of power. The Vail will be thinner, and not as many of them. The concept of the Venus Project I do not feel can ever replace our true spiritualities, that is something that is implanted in our hearts and minds, it’s in all of us, some just recognize it more of it than others do.

No amount of planning for the future is insured. Love has no time limit, no interest rates, and no contracted stipulations (irregardless of some religious beliefs to the contrary).

Tommorrow never comes. Today is already here. To build a future, one must live it today.

To stipulate conditions today, on how 'tommorrow' can only come about if those conditions are met is like creating a tapestry of lies, that has to be readjusted, patched, and touched up to keep the lie afloat. The lie is maintained, and those who use the lie to gain status in the world through conscientious use of the infrastructure of the lie, live a comfortable, opulent life in spiritual stasis, while campaigning mightily to uphold the lie.

Thinking for ones self is taboo, even though the mainstream likes to go on about 'individuality.' What they are really talking about is not individuality, but attempting to defend their greed, posession, and avarice.

If you do think for yourself, you find yourself immediately at odds with the power-elite, and if they find out, you become an enemy, and often labeled 'criminal.'

In that article afterburner directed me to, this line;

" Our inborn gifts of emotional intelligence and intuition have been usurped by group think, mass negligence, blinded conformity, corporate pseudo-science and lack of true awareness. "

is full of substance, like a compressed package waiting to be opened and expanded, like a flower bulb waiting for spring.

These gifts are accessable NOW! Not in some hypothetical future set of circumstances carefully crafted by clever humans. But how can one access thes faculties if they do not believe in them? That's the catch-22 the status quo banks on in every generation.

This is why I am always going on about the errors of compromise and capitulation, because they're just fixes for the tapestry, and maintenance of the lie.

Freedom is an inherent gift, a fact of our existence, not a taxable, regulateable, artifact handed out the chosen ones of the status quo. One cannot petition the master for freedom from being posessed, because the posession itself is not real, it is an invention of the mind of evil men. Freedom is as simple as a choice. And everyone has those choices every day, every minute, and every hour. True, the forces that seek to maintain control have weapons, armed gangs roaming the streets and countryside, and quite often one who attempts personal liberty finds the odds overwhelming. Caution is always recommended, but fear will kill your freedom faster than anything.

Freedom comes to those who take it up, not to those who wait for it to be delivered.

Five ways to change the world.

#1. Increasing awareness.

#2. Respect for all.

#3. Release of fear.

#4. Universal knowledge.

#5. Unconditional Love.

Not taught in schools. Not upheld in the workplace. Not evident, or existent in governments and politics. Only one of them is spoken of in religion, but rarely practiced. Not part of requirements and/or qualification for public leaders and cops, especially cops.

These qualities and faculties of human reality are held as far away from common knowledge and practice as the various social, religious, economical, political, academic, and professional institutions (created, funded, and maintained by the status quo elite) can manage.

Thanx for the link...

keeps on slipping into the future...

museman

I saw your post and will reply.

My favorite niece is in town from New York and we spent some time last night. She told me she might stay one more day so if she is still here I’m going to try to see her again today in between this insidious daily grind I’m dealing with.

Please bear with me…

SeeYhaa real soon.

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In the meantime try this one.

Now that is an insightful statement.

To be so ignorant as to presume ones own divinity -as a physically attainable thing, like through science, is certainly not being wholisticly honest with all the information available. What always gets me, is how someone can view this planet, its wonderful, intricate, sophisticated systems -far beyond our abilities to completely understand- and the universe itself and still deny the existence of a greater being than themselves.

And this line; "I didn't watch it long enough to figure out what the purpose was for condemning religion." sums up my basic problem related to the integrity and credibility of the message or information. The people who need to know this information are the ones encapsulated and bound within it, if you alienate them by callously throwing ALL, not just the obviously BS parts, or their beliefs out the window.... People don't change their stripes that easily.

The reason why the movie excited me so much, is because I recieved almost identical information about 25 years ago from a spiritual source. That information wasn't being widely excepted by my peers, in fact at the time I recieved it, I was warned that few would understand.

The essence of the message about religion is partly known considering the Catholic Church, but the realization that religion is not a guide but a shackle really needs to be driven home. The total mythologizing of Yashua -done through the Roman Church- is an unfortunate fact, one that leaves true seekers on their own -in terms of having any kind of spiritual community -like a 'church' is supposed to be. Religion is a BLIND GUIDE. Now I'm pretty sure you know that I seperate distinctly 'religion' and 'spirituality.' The Truth in the form of Sacred Scriptures -that includes th Bible- is heavily tainted with the doctrines of centuries of domination by the Elite Ruling Class (Nephalim) and one must have and use discernment to actually see the shining truth in the midst of the dross.

The treatment of Yashua, or I should say the lack of it, by the authors of the movie was the first 'flag' that went up for me. I was willing to let it past, considering that the information, though incomplete, was as far as my experience and study goes, pretty close to the truth. The second movie establishes the atheistic prespective of the author/s.

Atheists aren't much different than established religions, in that they believe their perspective to be the only valid one.

I thought I might just edit out the messenger, and supply my own personal touch as an alternative, but its just too much work for too little results. Better just to follow their own example and trash the whole thing.

I really wanted to support this thing, because the information (specially related to my own visionary experiences) I feel real strongly about. I'm still holding it out at arms length trying to decide whether to let it completely go or not. If I let it go, then it almost automatically goes into my list of spiritual antagonists, because I can't just ignore such falseness, I have to address it on some level.

Many people find their guides in things, records of past experiences, myths, hopes, dreams, in fact anything that can be used as a personal talisman to 'get you through the night' can be a 'guide.'

I am not going to qualify what are 'good' guides, as opposed to 'not-so-good' guides, that is, I'm confidently sure, quite obvious to you.

But those little flags that spoil all the best imaginings, like the little clues that the noises you heard on xmas eve weren't santa and his reindeer on the roof, like believing in a generation that would rise to consciousness, only to witness it bought and sold for a fistful of dollars, like believing in anything only to have it dashed to the ground with the final drop of the other shoe, ah those nasty little flags. I hate 'em. The hidden agendas, and the laughably not so hidden ones.

Zeitgeist is supposed to mean "spirit of the times." In that respect, the first movie fulfils that statement. The problem is not the information, but the agenda, or potential of an agenda of the messenger -which to my mind seems to be revealed in the 'addendum.'

Any information is only as good as the integrity of the intent of the author, or informer. How could one give much credibility ot the writings and philosophies of Hitler after the crap done in his quest for power? Only twisted control freaks like cops, meth heads, and white supremists (as far as I know.)

Integrity is unfortunately not the same as 'credible' however, so a lot of information that if known and understood on a national, and global basis were judged on the basis of its 'integrity' versus its 'credibility' that knowledge might change the situation in some very positive ways, but when the delivery of the information has those annoying flags and strings attached to it...it becomes not only less credible, but the integrity of the intention behind it comes into question as well.

I have seen cults. They exist in all strata of life, and go by many names and labels. They all consist of a central figure who is made a literal object veneration and worship, manifested quite often in various sexual dominance (subjugation of women), and who has some great 'answer' to the cosmic question, or some 'way' to 'make a better future.' etc, etc, etc.

They often attract the lost and guilt-ridden children of the wealthy, getting them to 'donate' as much as they can 'to the cause.'

Here is the bottom line; the claim that 'modern' technology is the only solution to the human problem is absolutely missing the point. I do not believe in 'technology' any more than I believe in any other religion, including politics and the money-god. I do not believe that any compromise with the truth is anything other than a band-aid solution, the kind our polits like to apply liberally at our taxable expense. I do believe that the only true, and substantial solution to the human problem -and lets face it, nature is not, and never was the problem, just the way we have made our reality the true 'hostile reality'- lies within consciousness.

The solution is in consciousness, and let me define my meaning of 'consciousness;' (for those who need it)...

Consciousness is becoming in full possession of ones mental, intuitive, imaginative, and cognitive faculties - using more than 5% -10% of our faculties. It is synonymous with 'enlightenment.' Consciousness is the state of full awareness of ones' being, and the place that one shares with many living things. Consciousness is the only faculty capable of percieving the 'Truth,' because that perception is freed from the binders of past, failed attempts to attain it (religions) and renewed on a daily basis.

Consciousness is the only solution, because only when we achieve some kind of higher collective agreement, is there going to be any of the changes and evolution hoped for and talked of for eons. There is no way to force change, through any device, or invention -like the nuclear bomb- for example, oh yeah it forced change alright.

WIthin creation, is a design and function that 'scientists' have observed, measured, catalogued, and attempted to emulate with the result being what we refer to as 'technology.'

As consciousness begins to dawn, there comes a point where one realizes that reality is a participatory experience, and kharma and relativity -in the living, breathing of being, begins to make sense. The depth and breadth of Creation has not even been once observed by the 'scientists' who are all 'on the outside looking in', but it is mere numerical syntax vibrating at a measured speed of light and gravity. Creation is the 'technology' that we should be embracing. It is our denial of our true nature in relation to the Earth -specific within the social/technological separation of 'modern' infrastructures from natural, pre-existing technologies of this LIVING REALITY- that is the root cause of all our ecological problems, and a 'solution' that claims more of the same; a 'better mousetrap' concept, is no solution at all.

The transition from medieval use and abuse of resource for the benefit of the few can only occur through consciousnesss. You cannot TEACH consciousness, you can only teach axioms. You cannot build a fortress of peace and prosperity, contrary to those many medieval belief/thinking patterns that are now reaching their dead ends, you can only achieve peace and prosperity through global agreement -on a level of shared consciousness -not paper contracts and treaties.

There are many references found here and there, to 'communities of light' and 'lightworkers.' I personally have been watching and waiting (on one level of consciousness) for evidence of these, while attempting to be there myself, my participatory experiences predominantly within nature have gained me much insight into what I adamantly believe is 'true reality.'

These communites of light already exist. I know of at least 3 I have found in this country. There are undoubtedly a lot more in the most unlikely places. I can almost guarantee that this 'venus project' is nowhere in the neighborhood, but I could be wrong. I can say this with absolute certainty; It couldn't possibly be a community I would want to be part of, while the world burned around me. I don't want the world to burn, I don't want 90% of what is happening in the world to happen. Didn't want it over 40 years ago, and a lot has happened in that category. Because I didn't, I set out in stark contrast to the disco yuppie (of my generation) to try and do something about it.

Everyone always says to me: "Not enough money." "Got to have funding." "This society would crumble without it." etc. Well I've been replying for over 40 years; "If that's what you believe is true, then you make it conditional for you, but why force that condition on those who don't believe it?" I know that my life comes from the Creator of Universes, not any agency, chapter or legislation of government. My sustenance also comes from that very same benefactor, yet almost everyone I know BELIEVES that money is the only way to get fed, that the economic supply-and-demand infrastructure that supplies the industrial workforce who are the backbone of a functional social structure such as we have; pyramidal, is the only way of living on this planet.

The idea of building some kind of isolated city on the ocean somewhere that could 'weather the storm' that is predicted and felt by many at this point, is ludicrous. There is only one safe place to be, and that is CONSCIOUSNESS. You can not get enough money to build that, if that were the case it would have been built long ago. But money is not for the building of consciousness, it is for the control of consciousness. Any solution that requires money to achieve consciousness, is just digital snake-oil salesmen.

When the TRUE value of consciousness reaches at least a balance with the false values of posession (and 'having' is an OK thing, as long as the willingness and conscious desire to share is attached to it like an irremovable tag) then the true 'top of the mountain' will have been reached that we've been struggling towards for maybe up to 10,000 years.

The idea that any, and/or ONLY a special group of people (special by any determinate means of comparative qualification) should get the opportunity -solely based on monetary contribution, is a song I've heard sung by many charlatans.

I was so glad to have seen the information out there in the way that it was, at least with the first rendering, I felt quite vindicated that finally someone else was stating it who wasn't being rejected out of hand, and it joyfully made me realize that another generation aside from the scarce few of my own was coming into consciousness.

Now, having seen the second movie, I have this dark suspicion that the intent is really to discredit the information, like so many other 'nearly-the-truth-but-too-weird' scenarios floating like clouds in the virtual sky.

The thought occurred to me, that there is one source of this information and knowlege (not directly addressed or revealed in either zetgeist or addendum) that would account for the concise arrangement of the information, and that would be the actual Nephalim, who have had this knowlege, in fact historicly created a lot of it (as referred to in the movie as being done by "Royal Bloodlines").

At any rate, and a this point in time, I remain both disappointed, and offended at what I currently percieve.

The only way I could support this rendering of partial truth at this point would be for them to address the issues and answer my own query -for starters. Otherwise the potential for confusion is just as great as the potential for enlightenment, and I know a bit about the authors of confusion, I am by nature and choice enemical to them.

As far as the DVD goes, I guess I'm kinda asking to put it on hold until I have better resolution/understanding about it. I shouldn't have to review it (I've shown it to my kids about 4 times, so I kinda got a review there) to find something that is really not there. I surely do appreciate your intent, and thinking of me enough to point me towards it. I don't want to disparage that.

I'm open for further discussion. In fact, you might say that my online presence has been diminished lately due to a large extent of the let-down of that scenario, which has been followed by other let-downs, like a cascade effect.

PEACE,

Any way, I got to hazard a trip over the pass for last minute xmas stuff, so I won't be able to post until later today. I do want to discuss this with you. Check back later this eve...

I’ve watched the movie about a dozen times. Each time I picked up something that I missed due to distractions and Iliked it more every time.

I think a resourced based economy is more in tune with nature than what we have now…Although there certainly going to be flaws in it as well.

The first time around when I saw Jacque Fresco appear in the movie I too had raised eyebrows, and I also had thoughts about why did they ruin the movie with this guy. Until I heard him out several times. He even mentions that it is not a perfect system, but it is still a giant leap forward. The more I watched, the more I understood the concept.

At first I had visions of the movie Demolition Man dancing through my thoughts. With the high tech cities and the power elitists running things behind the scene. I was thinking that certainly someone could not resist the temptation for the greed of power and try the same old funny business behind the curtains.

But I do believe with that type of system, elitism will be curtailed to an extent that it will be harder for those people to hide. After all there will be no money or all the other goodies that come with it like bankers, stock brokers, advertisement companies, no management pukes, politicians, excessive laws and their enforcers, all these different religions and beliefs and imaginary boundary lines that separate society so on and so forth.

I checked out the website, it contained some stuff that made me wary too. Like the pictures with the helicopter. I thought who is this guy, and what kind of control freak he might be. It appeared that all he wanted to do was sell books and DVD’s on his website. But I concluded, yes is a wealthy man, but it appears he is using at least some of his wealth to help societies. I don’t see him profiting from his project. I’m sure he has spent much more on it than he has received. His property in Florida is for sale for about a half-million dollars. That sounds high but in the money world is it worth more than that with all the buildings and workshops on it, along with the landscaping and generators to boot. In California that would sell for 3 to 4 times that amount. If the sales market of today wasn’t so trashed out, that property would have been sold by now.

There was a mention to the arts as well although very brief. As an example he mentioned being in that type of system, if you enjoyed painting pictures you would be happy to give it to someone else to share instead of selling it for money. Now I take that example and apply it to all arts including our favorite…music…I’m thinking he just didn’t cover as much as we would have liked in the flick.

In a resourced based economy people will do what they enjoy. That is their contribution to society. Have you ever watched a good chef do his work? Labor that he enjoys…It’s amazing. I know people who love to build things, construction work, I’m one of them, and I’ve been around plenty that do love the work, but dislike the micro (make more money) management part of it that requires them to do lesser of a job so that it is done faster and cheaper. I’ve met plenty that are really really really really good at it. Most people enjoy many things that they do, but in our rat race money-grubbing society takes too much love away from it, and in turn makes it a burden of labor. Very un-enjoyable at that point. Things have changed in the last decade or longer. Today’s so called construction workers wouldn’t make a pimple on an old school carpenters, electricians, roofers, plumbers and etc…butts. They are trained to get it done as soon as possible using the fastest techniques using cheaper materials. Once again the money hiders the quality of the workers workmanship. In these times they very seldom learn to do it proper in the first place.

Remember…a person who enjoys what they do will never work a day in their life.

I saw quite a few references to nature as well. It had scenes of crops growing and other visualizations of nature as the movie were trying to explain things.

God, yes there is a God/Great Spirit/Creator. I’ve experienced/witnessed many things that tell me so. Their reference to religions were to show how out of one, many were created by greedy men for social control/elitism/power/money and how societies abuse each other using the name of God/The Lord/Jesus/Allah/Abraham or what ever someone wants to name their god.

In my view there is only ONE, and a world divided making war on itself is no religion/church at all. With all these different religions going on around the world it separates us from the trueness of the ONE. I think that was what the movie was referring to, and trying to stress that point.

I too wished to have seen more detail in the arts and more clarification of their references to religion, but I will give the benefit of the doubt to them. Maybe they left some of it out for editing purposes, or maybe they felt that they were going into too much detail and would distract MOST people, that I am not sure of, and yes I see a red flag there, but still I will give what they have said some credence.

The reference to the painting is @ 1:29:40

Reference to Natural Resources @ 1:13:37

Too many more references that I would like to be specific on so I will leave it at that for now, except that I will ask you to review the movie further.

The second DVD has arrived; if you want it I will send them, just let me know. I would be very pleased for you to have it and share it with as many as possible. Both of these movies have a much higher resolution than the one you see streamed over the internet, the first one… more so.

Imagine - John Lennon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-b7qaSxuZUg

I just watched the zeitgeist addendum, and my disappointment just sank my enthusiasm.

Flags started going up as soon as 'the venus project' entered the info stream.

I did some cursory investigation, which led me to a series of dead ends -their 'movement' site is barely functional, and, ultimately some investigation of the venus project itself.

I don't know if you noticed the distinct absence of any reference to 'true' spirituality as opposed to the false spirituality that is exposed in zeitgeist, or consideration to organic solutions, rather than technological.

There are some gaping holes in this scenario and plan. And the fact that 80% of the world population is in the reject box of zeitgeist, is certainly a biggie.

The idea that it is necessary to gather funds (money that zetgeist claims -and rightly so- is actually non-existent, and without value, or any literal redeeming qualities) to build some 'new' city that is all teched out, is also a bit suspicious. Add to it the fact that only a 'select few' get to participate, doesn't lend a lot of credence to the idea of eliminating the elite classes. In fact the delivery of the concept is done in a very elitist environment. Money, comfort, and a probable lifestyle of never getting hands dirty in some kind of earthy interface just leaps out from the scene.

As much as I'd like to put away my observations and revelations for a more concisely compiled publication similar to zeitgeist, I am afraid that the zeitgeist option is fast heading towards my trashcan.

I will allow them to give me feedback on my queries, I contacted them yesterday with a couple of questions. Lets see how they answer them. My inutition tells me that I won't like the answers. And since their perspective doesn't seem to give credence to organic technology, but only the things that man creates, I am also relatively sure that their response to my claim of intuitive preception will be to invalidate and lump it in with their wholesale rejection of all things 'religious' and apparently spiritual as well.

You see, the problem is, that this is appearing more and more to be a totally left-brained concept, leaving literally half of our reality out in the cold. There is no reference to art and music as the powerful tools that they are, only a continuing reference to technology as 'the only solution.' The fact that technology is an inferior copy of the natural, creation design and technology, and not really the right direction for consciousness is being missed here, and that is a biggie for me.

I would like to see some survival of our technolgy as we make the transition to a higher consciousness, but to claim it as 'the new savior' and I'm sorry, but zeitgeist, by being secular in its offer of solution, is only creating more division and confusion when part of the truth is revealed, and then another fantasy put in its place. Thats been done enough times already.

Here is Truth;

God exists. The arrogant assumption that this reality is all a happenstance evolution of random chemical combinations is one with a disctinct lack of natural logical, observation of living nature -not just the dissection of dead parts of it (science).

True, the 'nature' and aspects of 'God' are not 'known' with the same finite conclusions as technology, or evolution theory, and some of that knowlege of God has been provided by science, when put in proper context and perspective, but the fact that a computer programmer -for instance- can whiz through all manner of digital functions that seem to have a possible application to real life, does not trump or otherwise negate the thousands of years of Spiritual revelation, understanding, experience, knowlege and wisdom that does exist within the parameters of Spiritual Consciousness.

The part-truth, as in historical proof of the myth-makers involved in the earths various religions, and the use of false religion -or false belief systems like the monetary system, is very valuable information, but when it is 'addendummed' to such a blatant one-sided (and elitist)perspective as 'the venus project' that information becomes muted and tainted with the falsenes of yet another narrow-minded perspective.

At this point, I cannot recommend, endorse, or otherwise aid in the propogation of more false information, no matter how much parts of truth is included in the rendering.

If my questions aren't answered with some content other than what I've already witnessed and reviewed, I then have to weigh whether or not to openly dispute the errors, or change my status from ally to opposition.

"Bobby" was a revelation for a lot of people. I could only watch it once though, I am far too emotional about it.

I have to admit to the fact that movies can be positively inspiring -like all art- when that is the intent.

I never did see Bobby, but I did get to hear Martin Luther King speak.

Remembrance.

Aretha & Mary Recording Their Grammy Award Winning Song

Same address.

The sequel does sound interesting.

I was just thinking about this thread the other day. About how so many conceptualized ideas of our youth have become -finally- real factors dealt into the hand of every day life.

As I watched the door slam in the face of some very angry (but only a handful) sore losers (did you compare the reactions to the "Respect my opponent" speeches? Obama's crowd clapped, but McCain's crowd booed and hissed like abunch of snakes -right on national TV!) I think back to 1968, when we were all talking about Bobby Kennedy as being the next step in the progress of the American Dream of liberty and justice for all. Martin Luther King was giving us, and the very, very opressed Black Man a vision of a very different nation than the one we all lived in in 1968.

1968 was the year our generation came of age. They assassinated our next president. They assassinated the most eloquent statesman for equality amongst all men -because of some silly extinct concept of 'racial superiority', and to make the matter worse, they started upping the annie in VietNam. From there the repugs launched their platform based on a military-industrial economy which included the various takeovers of citizens rights and liberties starting with Nixon.

Our generation was split into factions, America was split into factions, even more so than before the civll rights movement. The controlling powers orchestrated some mighty fine entertainment for themselves, at great human and ecological expense, gathering a substantial number of our potential flower children into the middle road of materialism in suburbia.

The movement of new awareness that was shot to the fore through various experimented experiences, some mighty good, some not so good, was labeled, made war on, socially rejected, discredited, and looked upon through media as some nostalgic flash in the pan of collective generational experience called "the '60's" -but that movement continued.

For years the High dreams of our youth were squashed and thwarted, but all along the sanity and reason of the knowlege that life was for living not for fulfilling the comfort and destiny of the chosen few, quietly taught our children well.

We taught our children about the earth, that it was a living organism, not an object to exploit for personal gain and gratification. We taught them the repercussion of waste and pollution, and practiced (as best we could in the total lack of community awareness) recycling, and explored alternative, renewable energy sources.

We taught them that the only real limits there are to consciousnes are the ones that the mind wants/allows to be there.

WE taught them freedom, and liberty, even as the 'schools' were teaching bondage and servitude.

And some of the tinkers amongst us gave us the PC, and the internet ('borrowed' from US D.O.D. nuclear contingency plans), while the artists and musicians were paving the way to consiousness in their art and music.

It wasn't an 'entire generation'. In fact it was an oppressed and discriminated against minority.

When the mainstream started finaly accepting some of the things we have been doing all along, they sure didn't aknowlege in any way the fact that we kept the faith through all those years of yuppie gluttony, and credit was never given where credit is due. The fact that it was our small but really collective tenacity -having to do with Pearls Of Great Price, and not being willing to give them up for any of the platic-fantastic illusion that the status-quo world has been offering that has provided the very real foundation for this 'New Age' we actually find ourselves in, is ultimately a very fine thing regardless of whether or not the Hippies are rightfully aknowleged in the mainstream or not.

I ran off about three batches of the movie for you…but...They got passed on to other people. It seemed there was more of a demand for them than what I expected. Copies I made went all over the place and I was asked if I had more… so I gave them out. I’m thinkn’ strike while the iron is hot, and I’m sure you agree.

I have an address that you gave me, I need to know if that is still the place to send them. If that has changed with the help of FoM we can make an arranged rendezvous on this thread thread, live style so I can get the info and within seconds she can zap it.

I have another batch sitting in front of me, and these are for you come Hell or High water.

And also there is a sequel out now. It talks about The Venus Project which is a resourced based economy vs. a monetary based economy. You’re gonna love it. It really gives vindication to the title of this thread. The Rainbow Familly too. Haven’t ordered it yet but will real soon, probably before the week is up.

When I get that one I will run off a batch and send them on too.

We need to do our part and get this info out to everyone who will hear it. You mentioned public showings…cool, let's do it.

Thank you for letting me know about it, Museman, so I could participate the best I could.

Some of my most treasured moments happened in or around Rainbow Gatherings.

You want to know one of the most incredible things? The fact that in almost 40 years that idea did not dwindle, or die out, but has been totally refreshed with a new generation who look as if they were taken right out of the Summer of Love 1969 and transported through time to 2008!

It is interesting to note that the Rainbow Gathering is only 2 years older than the first beginnings of the WOD -under Nixon.

You have great fourth.

Some of my kids are there this year. Two of my sons rode their bikes from Eugene! (of course they got a ride, or they would still be in Monatana or Idaho.)

My one and only LSD trip at a rock concert wasn't until 1993 at a Moody Blues concert in Medford Oregon.

Omming's good for you. I'm still smiling.

But.... I was an hour early... on the dot.

Maybe I'll get more Grace and get it right at 1:00. I did feel the Oneness, though. How exciting that it was just a prelude.

It is prayer for life, joy, and happiness.

They are gathering in the meadow, and joining hands about now.

You're right. There is one hour difference between the zones, so if it is 10 here, it is 11 there.

Sometime around 11:30 the people will start to gather in the meadow.

It is also prayer for the natural world, those whose tribal consciousness, and choices of lifestyle accordingly have been made target by the powers and principalties of evil.

It is a prayer for freedom from the bondage from false taskmasters.

It is prayer for life, joy, and happiness.

They are gathering in the meadow, and joining hands about now.

So we've got about an hour and a half as I calculate.

What are we supposed to pray/meditate/think about at that moment and for how long?

It is now a little after 9 here.

So high noon there should be at 1 PM here... I think.

Right now... according to the above site the times are:

According to my calculation... it will be nearly two hours from now.

Today thousands of people will keep a vow of silence - an incredible experience being with thousands of deliberately silent human beings- until they all gather to circle and pray in a big meadow.

Anyone who would like to vicariously share in the experience may set aside a few moments at noon (MST), close their eyes and envision a circle of several thousand people, all in agreement and focussed. It is the circle of man, and we are all represented there.

My sons discovered this one. I think it goes right in hand with Zeitgeist.

It is long, and I haven't even finished it yet -stayed up till late trying to but believe me, you will be awake and paying attention at some point.

You're welcome Brother. Even with the few mistakes it contains, it is accurate enough to give many people the knowledge to resist the mind games.

2012. If things do begin anew, then Good may rule the Earth for the next Universal cycle. Though it may not start out good, it may end up Good, like we are ending this cycle buried in the smothering weight of Evil, the next galactic cycle may end up with Goodness as weightless as our spirits. Maybe that is the perfect balance we all have to experience to know God. The total experience of Good and Evil, endlessly, or until God gets tired of it all...

Everybody has their own thing to deal with. I’m not offended at that. None what so ever… A lot of times I don’t respond when I should.

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Toker, I got the Zeitgeist movie from their website. Hi-resolution. Pumping out free copies. 5 went out the door today.

I wanted to share something with you.

The first time I saw that movie was from a link you had left us. I had plenty to do that day, but it captured my attention so much, I watched it several times that day…

Man…the truth, all in one nice neat little tidy package…with huge meaning and impact…

I wish to thank you for that…

Used BGreen & musemans advice to try to burn from the hard drive rather than disk to disk.

There are just a few spots that appear to slightly pause, but when I replay the spots they seem to play okay. Much better that the disk to disk operation. I don’t think most people would even notice them. Also the drive I played it back on is almost 3 yrs old and has had a ton of disks cycled through it…so…That might be part of it too.

Burned the disk using Roxio program on backup machine, that version copies it to the hard drive first then burns it to the disk. That is the version I used on the primary machine before the crash. The version on it now is an earlier version that burns directly to the disk. Contacted Dell again…they said they would send me the version I had. But they already tried twice…still ended up with the older version…maybe this time it will be the one I’m lookin’ for.

By Howie Edelson

Neil Young had some harsh words for President George Bush and his tenure as a wartime president.

Young spoke about the criticism that the recent Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young documentary CSNY - Deja Vu has received, telling Uncut, "We're not telling the world what to do... It's so funny what people say about us... We're not trying to control the world. All we're saying is, 'Hey this f***ing president is killing us. This f***er is driving the country into insanity. This f***er is responsible for America being the most hated country in the world right now. That's what we're saying. All I'm saying is: 'This is what I think about this idiot. What do you think?'"

The Roxio program that I referred to as using a lot was burning CD’s not DVD.

This is my first try at this…so I don’t really know how well it works with DVD’s.

I’ll try burning another one later while I can sit down and concentrate on how to use it with DVD’s.

You don’t have anything to loose. The program is already installed and written to run under Vista…so…give it a whirl…see what happens.

If it doesn’t work you can always do the restless consumer thing…

Also…Dell…Very pleased.

I purchased this computer 2-1/2 years ago. I purchased the full 3 yr extend support about 200 bucks. I had an issue with one of the hard drives about a year ago. The next day at 8:30 am a guy in his mid sixty’s showed up knocking on the door with a hard drive in his hand. 20 minutes latter he was ready to go. He told me the hard drive is rebuilding it’s self and will take about 2 hrs to finish. He told me I could use the computer as normal while it was being done. I asked him how can the hard drive rebuild it’s self if the data is constantly being changed while I’m using it…He responded…”I love Windows XP… It’s the way the operating system works.”

To be on the safe side I used the machine very little during the process, and everything came out fine.

During this last crash these techs were super cool. I had to contact them about a dozen times inside of a week. Each time they followed through with all the notes from the prior calls. And on two occasions I got a tech that I dealt with on prior calls… cool…they were already familiar with the glitches I was having. Several times they took control of the computer and operated it from their end to see if they could solve the problems, and we finally got things going.

I’m still a little nervous though…it wasn’t a smooth clean install. I’m thinking maybe I should give the hard drives one of those military 7 time formats and start from there.

Roxio is from Sonic Solutions.

I’ve used it a lot and have had good luck with it.

However there are quite a few versions.

The one I had was Sonic DigitalMedia LE v7

That one is still on the backup computer, but is gone from the primary machine after the rebuild.

I will figure out how to get it back somehow.

A lot of people like that Nero program that BGreen mentioned…I never used it because I was happy with the Roxio program. It did every thing the way it’s supposed to.

Ok, I burnt the disk. It worked but there are pause like skips. I used a Roxio program to burn it.

It went directly from disk to disk.

I’ll try musemans advice to put it on the hard drive first.

I just had to reinstall the operating system – problems installing Service pack 3. The Roxio programs that were sent from Dell during my rebuild is not the same as what was on it before the reinstall. I might have to do a little more research to get that program back. The support techs gave me some information and some sites to help find it. And then they told me to call back if I couldn’t find it, and they will try help again. They sent me two Roxio Disks, but they are not the same as I had before the crash.

Dell has a very good support operation. They were very helpful during the process.

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Vista…if you like it... use it.

I’m still using XP pro. If I switch to Vista I’ll have 3 perfectly good working printers and one scanner that will not work and will end up being used for doorstops. Probably half of my programs will have to be replaced.

Two of those 3 printers have the kind of cartridges that I refill myself, no chips to interfere with the refill process. Just pull the cartridge, remove the plug, fill with ink, replace plug, insert cart, then print. Just for grins and giggles I timed myself once. About 35 seconds start to finish for one cart, but I had the ink out and already set to go. There are 6 cartridges in the print head. Office Depot/Staples charges about 60 dollars for a set of six carts. I can refill for about 20 cents per cart.

Most DVD burners now are both +/- but there are some that require either the + or - .

DVD burning programs are tricky though. I don't have one to recommend unfortunately, cause every one I've used I'm not impressed with.

My solution = don't fix.

LOL

To be able to directly copy a DVD you have to make sure there is no copy protection at all.

I use Nero v.6 to burn my DVD's.

New compilation/DVD-video/drag and drop VIDEO_TS folder from hard drive copy of DVD and burn.

You can copy the files from the DVD to your hard drive and see if it works. If not, I'll set you up with some trial version software for you to use.

It arrived. I ordered it about 3 weeks ago. Friday I emailed them they said it had been shipped. They said they would send out another one. It was in the mailbox Wednesday.

Silver lining if you look for one.

Maybe someone might have found the first one in their mailbox and put it in their DVD machine…and maybe thought it was kinda interesting…

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Now I need a little help here with burning the copies.

I’ve burned a lot of CD’s, but never a DVD, this will be my first go ‘round at it.

Main question.

I already have a pack of DVD+R disks. Are these disks ok for burning movies???

Or should I use the DVD-R format???

Or does it even matter???

I'd like to use what I already have instead of doing the restless consumer thing.

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Special note to those that maybe concerned, regarding copyright laws:

The creators of this movie allow, and even encourage copying and distribution of their flick.

You are a researching son-of-a-gun! (Here in Texas, that's not an insult, by any means. It means... "Wow! You are so really good at it!"

1. Say, if you have Chamomile growing in your backyard, which is a homeopathy remedy.

2. Following are the steps to make potentize Chamomile medicine.

3. Wash, clean and liquefy the whole plant in blender, this is Mother Tincture of Chamomile.

4. Take a clean clear plastic 2 liter bottle. Fill it half with one liter spring or rain water. Half filled so the liquid could be shaken vigoursly.

5. Add a drop of Mother Tincture from Step 1. Add it into the one liter water in 2 liter water bottle.

6. Since One drop is equal to 1/10 ml, adding it into 1000 ml makes the ration of 1:10000, which is 4x potency or 2C. 1C = 2X. 30 C = 60X.

I'm having fun with the digital age. If not with it's rulers and their master plan for world conquest.

Installed U.S. Wind Power Capacity Surged by 45% in 2007 The U.S. wind energy industry installed 5,244MW in 2007, expanding the nation's total wind power generating capacity by 45% in a single calendar year and injecting an investment of more than $9 billion into the economy, according to the American Wind Energy Association (AWEA), Washington, D.C. The new wind projects account for 30% of the entire new power-producing capacity added nationally in 2007 and will power the equivalent of 1.5 million American households annually.

To read this story online, visit EC&M's Web site.

Jan 31, 1:13 PM (ET)

NEW YORK (AP) - Paul McCartney says recent media reports that he had a heart procedure last year are "entirely untrue." "People are ringing and texting me saying, 'Are you OK?'" he writes in a posting on his newly redesigned Web site. "I hadn't seen the report so I was puzzled by so many enquiries about my health. So I think it's a good time to put this rumour to rest."

More…

http://apnews.myway.com//article/20080131/D8UH11001.html

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Hi everybody,

Happy New Year!

I hope it’s a great one for all of us.

There’s been a lot of stuff in the newspapers over the past few months and as most of it is completely inaccurate, I have not bothered to deny any of it.

There is one report though, that is causing concern amongst many friends of mine which was a recent report about a heart operation that I was supposed to have had.

Pauls website

http://www.paulmccartney.com/news.php#

Home page

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CSNY Deja Vu - (Documentary)

By JOHN ANDERSONA

Making music, making fun of themselves and making as much political hay as possible, Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young set out to alleviate the public allergy to Iraq War films with "CSNY Deja Vu," a doc that seems quite likely to effect a cure.

Helmer Bernard Shakey -- a.k.a. Neil Young -- has constructed a chronicle of his old band's "Freedom of Speech" tour of summer '06 and come up with an aud-friendly, activist musical that seems sure to raise both political ire and major bucks.

Thanks to his proclivities for grunge, his political instincts and a timeless fashion sense, Young has never been locked into any particular era or demographic.

Similarly, his drollery makes him ageless: From the first shot of an open highway, obscured by the band bus's window frame, to the citations from critics assailing the band for its left-leaning decreptitude, nothing is taken too seriously.

Except the war. Which is front and center.

It's so good to hear you are getting better.

I told Mrs. Green that I think the reason our house was damaged was because the trees are bare. We are pretty sheltered from the wind any time there are leaves on the trees, so this is the first time we've had this problem. Hopefully it's the last time, too.

Made it home before xmas.

Been forcing myself to move through the pain, exercizing on a daily routine, it's working. I am now nearly back to the condition (lower back wise) I was before I decided to help a guy push his truck -can't do that anymore.

I saved our house from destruction twice. Once from Barney Fife back in August and now from the weather, and I believe God has been with me all the way.

We had a storm and rain last night that will be coming your way, but it wasn't as bad as that.

My patch job worked for several hours but started leaking again during the final storm, about 3 A.M., which packed winds of 60 to 70 mph, according to radar estimates. I know I prevented several thousand dollars worth of damage, but being on the roof in a lightening storm probably wasn't the smartest thing. Two women died from this same storm system so all in all we're darned fortunate.

I was scared spit-less for several hours. I hope none of the rest of you have to go through anything similar.

I will definitely let you know if I ever head down that way. Recently all my road trips have started out by heading west to eventually lead to California. But maybe I'll plan a different route if I head out there again. We have to go south eventually to get there. I would like to take a different route anyway so I can drive through new states and see new things. I love cross country trips.

Run For The Roses By Dan Fogelberg

Jan 4, 2:05 PM (ET) LOS ANGELES (AP) - Stephen Stills, who had surgery for prostate cancer on his 63rd birthday, was expected to return home Friday, his wife said.

Stills, of Crosby, Stills & Nash (and sometimes with Neil Young), had the operation Thursday in Los Angeles, Kristen Stills, said in a statement. "Stephen's procedure went remarkably well and he couldn't be better," she said. "He will be home by noon tomorrow and the pain will be minimal."

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A Course in Love & Healing

Taking Your Place as An Ascending Love Master

Excerpt: "CSNY Deja Vu," a look at Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young's "Freedom of Speech Tour," as echoes of the '60s play out among today's audiences. Directed by Bernard Shakey (a k a Neil Young), written by Young and Mike Cerre. Closing Night Film.

I agree with your assessment of religion vs spirit(uality). The terms that we have been brought up with don't come even close to expressing the reality of the situation.

It's basicly a statement showing how the natural life of mankind, and the creation have been hijacked by a certain kind of class/creed/spiritually polarized minority, how they established their power, and how they perpetuate it.

The beginning is probably what throws you off, because some rather harsh conclusions are drawn about the many aspects of religion which are all about lending power and credence to the status quo, and keeping the general population in fear and ignorance.

A lot of christian oriented folks will have a hard time getting through the opening 30 minutes because of how they state their findings. If I didn't have the perspective I have had for most of my life, I might not have been able to get through that myself. In my opinion that first part needs to be redressed, which I am going to attempt with my little collection of words.

The substance of the message is really what comes after the religious angle, showing how the government in our time, from the very beginning has been a group of the power elite with an agenda extending far beyond what they let the general population see and hear.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeitgeist

I assume you've seen the video?

Oct 22, 3:34 AM (ET)

By H. JOSEF HEBERT

WASHINGTON (AP) - Solar power, still a tiny fraction of the energy used today, may be heading closer to the mainstream - if a display on the National Mall over the past week is any indication.

Twenty universities brought solar homes to Washington, assembled them in the shadow of the Washington Monument and became a weeklong magnet for people wanting to see what these technology-filled homes were all about. To many visitors, they no longer looked like oddball experiments, but dwellings that had the look and feel - although smaller - of houses in suburbia.

Even storm clouds and drizzle didn't keep the curious from standing in long lines one afternoon to look at the one-bedroom homes that had been assembled by students from 16 states, Puerto Rico and three foreign countries.

As the rain fell, batteries hidden beneath attached decks and porches provided the juice from energy that had been absorbed on sunny days.

Judges ranked each of the houses on 10 criteria, from architecture to market viability to engineering to livability. They required students to wash clothes, prepare meals, run a television, maintain comfortable temperatures and even use excess power to drive a plug-in electric car - and finish the week having used no more electricity than the sun provided.

A team of students from Germany's Technische Universitat Darmstadt won the weeklong competition as judges concluded their box-like dwelling was the most efficient, well-designed and well-engineered home in the competition. It featured three walls of solar cell-imbedded louvers that were adjusted automatically by a computer to best take advantage of the sun.

The German design "pushed the envelope on all levels," Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman said in announcing the winner Friday, calling it "the house people have been lining up all week to watch."

A team from the University of Maryland finished second. Visitors touring their house were attracted by an indoor waterfall that provided a novel way to use a liquid desiccant to soak up humidity so less energy was needed for cooling.

"The concept is sound," said Brian Borak, 25, a chemistry major, adding that it's been used in industrial applications, but never in a residential situation. The university is thinking of filing a patent.

Renewable energy sources - mostly wind turbines - account for a little more than 2 percent of electricity production. A very small percentage comes from solar, or photovoltaic, cells such as those used in the houses on the Mall, according the Energy Department.

But in the two years since the last Solar Decathlon, the competing house designs have become more mainstream, according to judges and participants. For the first time a category of "market appeal" was added to the criteria on which teams were judged. While the prototype homes were said to cost $500,000 or more to design, ship and erect, they also contained many features that are commercially available, according to competition organizers.

"In 2005 (the houses) were experiments. This year they're not. ... They're an example of what can be done," said Bob Burt, a building consultant who was one of the judges ranking the homes on market appeal. "There are a couple of houses that when I first walked in I said, 'Yeah, I could live here.'"

Leo and Darlene Michitsch, visiting from Cleveland, saw in the homes not only a glimpse into the future, but also a hint of something here today. "We have an interest in putting improvements into our home," said Darlene, who teaches art at a university. The couple had already visited several of the houses and "we're learning a lot," she said.

Lori Johnson, of Lakewood, Colo., said the modernistic design of most of the houses "is not my style" but they had piqued her interest in solar.

"We've talked about the idea of (using) more solar in our home," she said, noting that Colorado had ideal conditions for the technology.

"These houses, generally speaking, are much more real, much more part of the next generation of something that is actually going to be built," said Bodman, the energy secretary, whose department sponsored the competition.

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Múm

Mansion On The Hill

http://www.myspace.com/neilyoung

Excerpt: Unlike our 2002 meeting, when he was struggling to articulate his thoughts on 9/11, Young is now only too eager to address current events. Even so, his thoughts are, much like his music, often impulsive. Young has never been accused of behaving like a textbook liberal. In the late 60s, he wrote Ohio, an outraged response to the deaths of four students at the hands of the National Guard at Kent State University. It stands as one of the greatest protest songs to emerge from the era. By the 80s, in stark contrast, Young briefly emerged as a supporter of then president Ronald Reagan. Today, he is equally contrary.

"This will be seen as the dark ages of vision where it was right in front of us," he says. "Why are all these people upset? What did we do? There has to be a reason. You have to go back through history, and see what we've done to these little countries how we've manhandled them into doing different things in the name of doing good. We didn't realise that our way of life is not the only way of life."

He sits and thinks for a while. Back in the 60s, Young marched in protest against the war in Vietnam. He tells me that the liberal idealism of the era was a success. Then, abruptly, his thoughts turn to Bill Clinton. "In this country we had a bad group of events starting with Bill Clinton and leading up to [George W] Bush. Clinton was a catalyst for a lot of this stuff because he played out on a moral stage a very bad scenario. He lied directly to the American people about something that has to do with core family values. He's not a bad person; he made a mistake. But in lying he made a much worse mistake. And although it was very human and people forgive him for doing that, he gave the other side, the conservative side, the aggressive side, a huge opening. If it hadn't been for what he did, Al Gore would have been president. We would have had a president who understands the environment. We would have had a smart man in there."

I anticipate that the problem will be clarified when I get the opportunity to speak with Jerry. It is a pretty petty issue (that I can't talk about,) and once Jerry and I are able to talk face to face, I expect the bumps to get ironed out, at least between Jerry and I. Jerry is a logical, and reasonable man, not prone to hysterics and over-reaction, so I have a reasonable expectation of resolution once all the facts (of the 'issue') are on the table for discussion and in view.

I wish I could explain better, but out of respect for the people concerned I cannot.

Too cold to play music. Too cold to do anything but huddle.

Nice group of folks though. Maybe next year.

Spent the last week building a studio with my sons. Haven't worked that hard in years. Got pains in places you wouldn't believe. There will be much music coming out of that room though, so it was worth it.

That's where I have been.

Neil Young - Harvest Moon

Made from metal and had their own character, plastic was just coming about to replace steel with plastic (dead dinosaurs) about that time. From the 1980’s on it seems the cars have more plastic than steel.

Yes FoM, I agree…

They don’t makem like they useta…

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The Chrome does look good.

Think about the title of Neils album…

Try this link for more pictures of the Lincoln.

The other link didn’t work for some reason.

http://home.xnet.com/~otis/Lincoln/

This is a 1959 Lincoln Continental Mark IV just like the one mentioned in the Neil Young article you linked us to.

Beautiful car.

Check out the hood ornament in these two pics. It might look familiar.

http://home.xnet.com/~otis/Lincoln/IMG_3466_1280x1024.jpg

http://home.xnet.com/~otis/Lincoln/IMG_3750_1280x1024.jpg

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Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick - Madison Sq. Garden 1978

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toHlMD50eYY

America was, and still is a better place than Hhmmm, let me think….

China

Russia

and probably anywhere you go in the Middle East…

America is not the problem,

It’s the people with saddened intents is where the problem lies.

If JFK had lived, we would probably be seeing a different America than what you see now.

Should have said,

That is a hood ornament from an early 1960’s Lincoln.

John F. Kennedy was killed in a 1961 Lincoln. It has the same hood ornament.

Look at the last picture in this link of one labeled 1963. It’s the same one Neil Young uses on his cover.

http://www.cadvision.com/blanchas/hood_ornaments/lincoln.html

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After the assassination the grille was changed. I’m thinkin that the ornament was left off after the rebuild.

“Delivered to the White House in mid-June 1961, the dark-blue car was dubbed the "X-100" by the Secret Service and fitted with DC license plates "GG-300." In September, the original grille was replaced with a 1962-model grille, apparently for aesthetic reasons. After the Kennedy assassination, the car was completely rebodied by Ford and Hess & Eisenhardt.”

http://c.barat.free.fr/lincoln/limousine/limo.html

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Here is a picture of the front of the car. It has the hood ornament.

“This photograph by Associated Press photographer Ike Altgens captures President Kennedy's limousine as it proceeds down Elm Street in Dealey Plaza in Dallas, Texas on November 22, 1963.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Altgens_mary_ferrell.jpg

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Picture of the car now in Henry Ford Museum

As you can see the hood ornament is gone, and the headlights are different.

Cover Art for Chrome Dreams II: http://tinyurl.com/3yqkko

If museman posts, let him know about runruff.

But why do I have that feeling you were already going to do that? :)

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You found the post. Cool.

I think he said it was going on till the 27th. Not sure though.

If runruff posts again would you let him know that museman is at a Rainbow Gathering and is away from computers?

He might have e-mailed musemans website and wondering why there is no sign of him.

A recent article in the New York Times reported that Washington utility American Electric Power will install hugh banks of high-tech batteries as a way of connecting more wind power to its grid.

The article goes on to say that the cost of the project is very high, $267 million for six MW of capacity, or about $4500 per kW, including the cost of substation improvements.

Finally, the article reports that the batteries will use a sodium sulfur chemistry, operate at temperatures of more than 800°F, and will be the size of a double-decker bus.

FoM. Just found this in the Inbox. Get a load of this stuff.

Too bad you can’t go to that seminar and ask a few questions.

Maybe it’s better that you can’t be there, they might Taser you before it was over.

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Thanks FoM

Got Ordinary People Live and Studio version. Will listen to it later tonight.

Found Farm Aid Concert videos too.

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http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily

TODAY'S BIRTHDAYS

Frankie Avalon, 68

Xzibit, 33

Re: FoM #82

I was able to get the Neil Young portion of Farm Aid but that was it. Couldn’t find the Chrome Dreams or the rest of the concert.

Farm Aid 2007 pics

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By Josh Grenzsund, Columnist

September 17, 2007

Congratulations. You've made the cut to attend this illustrious West Coast institution - an NCAA powerhouse, home of respected environmental law, journalism and physics programs, and bastion of pseudo-hippie illicit drug use.

In short there's something for everyone. And as you make your way through this establishment, the classes you choose to take over the next four years will make up one significant part of your professional identity. Choose wisely, because your academic major will greatly define you - both in the work force and in the social world.

The other very significant aspect of the construction of your professional and social identities will depend on how you approach the non-academic "recreational" aspect of college life. Sure, recreation can mean clubs, organizations and sports, but let's cut the crap. College recreation orbits around two large social objects - alcohol and drugs.

Your overall identity will greatly be defined by your participation in these areas over the next four years because your use or non-use will greatly influence who you associate with, the activities you partake in and your relationship with the law.

For those of you abstaining from every substance from heroin to caffeine, I can't relate to you, so you should stop reading this. The next time I have any interaction with you straight-edged freaks will probably be when I'm voting for your opponent in some election or fighting one of your proposed constitutional amendments to limit individual rights.

For those of you who are currently recreating or considering trying something harder than Dutch Bros, don't just follow the crowd, do a little research and approach your enrollment in drug courses sensibly.

Anti-drug propaganda teaches you to parrot out the phrase that "marijuana is the gateway drug," but two other substances lead more people to illegal substance abuse - alcohol and tobacco.

CDC statistics on substance use among high school students show that by their senior year 47 percent of students have tried alcohol and 23 percent have tried tobacco, while only 19 percent have tried marijuana.

Interestingly, the use of these "big three" substances remains fairly stable from high school into the 18-25 young adult age group. Nationwide about 53 percent of young adults drink alcohol, 23 percent smoke cigarettes, and 16 percent smoke marijuana, according to CDC and Department of Health and Human Services statistics.

Of course most of the stigma associated with the illegality of students' use of alcohol and tobacco is mitigated by the fact that people age out of the illegality of those substances. Conversely, marijuana is among the drugs listed on Federal and State Controlled Substance Schedules, so a user of marijuana maintains this stigma of illegality.

Controlled substances are broken into five categories, or schedules, that correspond with the severity of the penalty for use, production or possession. Schedule one drugs include heroin, LSD, ecstasy, peyote, mescaline, psilocybin and marijuana. Schedule two drugs are opium, cocaine and methamphetamine, while schedule three drugs are amphetamine, depressants and PCP.

This is information you should definitely consider before seeking out and taking drugs. The surprise, to me anyhow, is that marijuana is listed on schedule one while something as destructive as meth is on schedule two. But these schedules are greatly arbitrary and should only be used to gauge the level of relative illegality of drugs.

In truth, any drug can screw up your life, and there are plenty of "lifelong abstainers" who have screwed up professional and personal lives without the help of any drugs at all.

Conversely, many people have very successful lives after using drugs. Though he used cocaine, you will see that Sigmund Freud still carries massive sway in academics. Though Bill Clinton smoked pot, we elected him president for two terms. Even presidential hopeful Barack Obama has admitted to smoking pot - and inhaling. He also smokes cigarettes and still he has a great chance at the presidency.

Use of certain drugs and abstention from others in college will ingratiate you to some people and mark you as a pariah to others. For example, you heavy pot smokers are probably not hanging out much with those who draw the line with Coke - the drink, not the powder. And you straight-edgers - I told you to stop reading - you probably don't spend time at bars and kegs. Your drug use transcript is a social code for who and what you want to be associated with, and what you don't.

Also, as society changes, the attitudes towards the past or current use of certain substances will go in and out of favor and there is always the possibility that drug laws established in the early part of the 20th century will be overturned. Remember the 18th and 21st amendments - goodbye prohibition, and good riddance.

In our country, illegality of a substance does not end its use and likewise legality does not translate to ubiquitous use. But also, your drug use or abstention will influence your relation to the law, to society, and will likely affect you for the rest of your life.

But it's a free country, and you are completely free to break the law. So, welcome to the University of Oregon, keep your arms and legs inside at all times, and if you so choose, enjoy your trip : ).

The Drug Enforcement Agency says that more than one in 10 of you will.

Contact: jgrenzsund@dailyemerald.com

Copyright: 2007 Oregon Daily Emerald

In between Prineville and Mitchell Ore off Hwy 26.

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Sometimes when I go walkin’

Among the tall trees

I feel the light comin’ down on me

Under moon, under sun

I feel the chosen one

Through the mist, come walkin’ here with me

PS: The song you must find on the rust list is on Chrome Dreams II.

re:#69

I’ve always loved that tune. When all the ‘big hair’ bands and ‘heavy metal’ stuff was going on with multiple Marshall Amps cranked wide open with a dozen or so gizmo boxes and petals between the amp and guitar, I used to think; What happened to the music???

One of tunes I used to refer to is that one right there.

But Kiss' Gene Simmons knew about promotion, and he was generous enough to coach Outlaws' lead guitarist and vocalist Hughie Thomasson.

"You're a great guitar player," Outlaw drummer Monte Yoho recalled Simmons saying. "But you're lacking something."

"What's that?" Mr. Thomasson asked.

"A stance," Simmons said.

And so Mr. Thomasson crouched and extended his left leg, an enduring pose as memorable as his high-pitched voice and high-speed fingers.

Mr. Thomasson, 55, died late Sunday of an apparent heart attack at his Brooksville home, band tour manager Chuck Smith said. Mr. Thomasson had fallen asleep in his favorite chair after dinner out, Smith said.

In the late 1960s and early 1970s, the Outlaws, a Tampa band, toured with Janis Joplin and Creedence Clearwater Revival. The band's debut album, The Outlaws, spent 16 weeks on the charts in 1975 and led to 11 more releases on Arista Records.

Green Grass & High Tides, the band's hit 1975 song was named one of Country Music Television's top 20 greatest Southern rock songs.

Drummer David Dix's father first spotted young Hughie playing in a beach pavilion outside Egypt Lake. At the first practice, Dix's band launched into a rock standard, and Mr. Thomasson took off on the guitar.

"He commanded attention," Dix said.

The teen band's existing guitar player stormed out in frustration, Dix said.

Mr. Thomasson owned 14 guitars over the years, naming each, including Louise, a favorite. He switched guitars when he felt a different colored one might help him play better.

The Outlaws disbanded in the 1990s, when Mr. Thomasson was offered a spot in Lynyrd Skynyrd. He played for nine years until 2005, when he decided to reform the Outlaws. more…

http://www.sptimes.com/2007/09/11/Hillsborough/Southern_rock_icon_di.shtml

Boy it sure does cost a lot of money to be a member.

While clicking on their website I ran across this.

rchandler is from that area I believe. Maybe he has driven by that building before.

Dedication Opportunities

“We record names in sacred places, We recall loved ones in hallowed moments.”

Tree of Life

Located on the Hallway of the reception area, Temple Emanu-El’s “Tree of Life” it’s a beautiful way to remember special milestones as Bar/Bat Mitzvahs, Anniversaries, Birthdays, Graduations, pay a tribute to a dear friend or honor your children and family.

Oval Plaques $1,000

Leaves $500

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Hall of Remembrance

Stars $6,000

Hexagons $4,000

Yahrzeit Plaques Located inside the Abraham Frost Sanctuary. They are lit on the week of your loved one’s yahrzeit.

Yahrzeit Plaques $1,000

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More Dedication Oportunities

Dove of Peace Sculpture $1,000,000

Cultural Arts Center $1,000,000

Main Foyer $500,000

Main Entrance Jerusalem $500,000

Steps & Promenade $500,000

Hall of Remembrance $500,000

Tree of Life Doors $250,000

Jerusalem Lanterns $250,000

Museum of Jewish History $125,000

Noah Stained Glass Window $125,000

Creation Mosaic $100,000

Date Stained Glass Window $100,000

Barley Stained Glass Window $100,000

Wheat Stained Glass Window $100,000

Museum of Jewish History Theater $75,000

Hall of Remembrance Inglenook $50,000

Talit Lights Sanctuary $25,000

Talit Lights Chapel $25,000

Prayer Book Lights $25,000

Tzedakah Sculpture $20,000

Yarmulke Sculpture $20,000

Temple's Entrance Mezuzah $10,000

Sanctuary's Mezuzah $10,000

Hall of Remembrance Benches (2) $10,000

Wall of Remembrance Stars $6,000

Wall of Remembrance Hexagons $4,000

Mezuzot $1,800

the above found here… http://tesobe.org/dedication.html

Picture of Church/Temple

http://www.nmajh.org/exhibitions/postcards/cards/09.htm

When it goes out auctioning seats on eBay, it's a shame and a disgrace.

I know that if you have a physical building you have expenses and those have to be paid for somehow.

For those that don't get the joke, for some reason, in most Baptist churches, nobody wants to sit on the front row. It's usually the last row to fill up. It may have something to do with the volume level of Baptist preachers who tend to get riled up and shout quite a bit.

The Line Up

And the sign said everybody welcome, come in, kneel down and pray

But when they passed around the plate at the end of it all,

I didn't have a penny to pay, so I got me a pen and a paper and I made up my own little sign

I said thank you Lord for thinking about me, I'm alive and doing fine

I know people who could use that kind of money and put it to better use than where it is going now.

Florida synagogue offers front row seats on eBay for $1.8M

06 September 2007

A synagogue in Florida is offering two front row seats for sale on the eBay internet auction site. Temple Emanu-El in Miami Beach is offering ‘membership for life’ with the two ‘front and center’ seats. The starting price is $1.8m dollars although there were no bids within the first 24 hours. The auction is scheduled to end on 10 September. According to the listing on eBay, the package includes: Two comfortable seats ‘right in front of the Rabbi!’; Includes all Jewish holidays and all Shabbat services; Family name engraved on the seats; Two custom-made Israeli tallitot and kippot; and free parking.

Temple President Jerry Jacobs said. “I don't want to use the word `gimmick,' but it's a way for us to get the community involved in what we're doing. Here you can have the two best seats in the house, and they'll be in your family forever. We chose $1.8 million to represent chai and that these seats would be yours for life”….

and…

At Temple Emanu-El, two seats cost $1,800 for congregation members.

more…

http://www.worldjewishcongress.org/news/globalnews/gn_archives/2007/09/gn_070906_florida.html

Get a load of this stuff.

I guess the more money you pay, the holier thy art.

XM Satellite Radio to Broadcast Farm Aid Concerts

XM Satellite Radio has announced that they will again be offering radio coverage of this year’s Farm Aid, broadcasting from Randall’s Island in New York City. This is xm’s third year in a row of broadcasting the concert.

xm’s new channel “XMX” (XM2) and deep classic rock channel “Deep Tracks” (XM 40) will be on-site in Randalls Island, NY to broadcast live from Farm Aid 2007 on Sunday, September 9, featuring performances from Willie Nelson, Neil Young, John Mellencamp, Dave Matthews, among others.

xm’s live coverage for Farm Aid 2007 kicks off Sunday, September 9 at 4pm ET on XM 2 and XM 40. In advance of the live broadcast, beginning Saturday xm will be airing “Farm Aid Radio,” featuring some of the best performances from past Farm Aid concerts along with interview segments and songs by the artists headlining this years’ Farm Aid. The broadcast begins Saturday, September 8 at 12 midnight ET on XM 2.

I can't wait to hear Ordinary People.

The last half of the video. Not so cool.

I was watching this video and was distracted about half way through it.

When I got back I posted it, then watched the rest.

PS: Very little alcohol was there but plenty of Pot and LSD.

We had a good doctor there to help people who went off the deep end and needed help. It was wonderful.

That's an easy question to answer;

"The Hippies Had It Right All Along."

But don't stop with an abstractly obscure song by Don McLean as representative of 'prophecy' in music.

The day the music died was the day that the music industry laid on the bucks to the musical leaders of the revolution, who almost all opened bank accounts and left their grass roots behind easily and quickly.

The day the music died was the same day that the term 'yuppie' was coined.

The day the music died was the day that xtian idiots burned beatles records in the streets, and began to preach John, Paul, George, and Ringo as modern demons instead of the prophets that they were.

The day the music died was when people believed that 'music production' was the only true source of it, and the 'superstar' concept was born.

The day the music died was when the guitar player on the street corner was first ignored by the one with a studio contract.

The day the music died I was jammin' in the park, and when I opened my eyes, the whole audience had gone to ticketmaster.

Wednesday, August 29th, 2007

Editor:

“American Pie” is a song by Don McLean from the early 1970s. Through its poetry it tells a story of America going down the tubes. How did Don know to prophesize these things through an allusion to fall out shelters and events like a dry levee?

The song also is about God and the Bible. To that note how did the writers of the Bible know that a nation would rise up militarily and George W. Bush would be in control of enough nuclear weapons to be able to kill every man, woman and child on earth four times over? The Bible predicts that mankind will destroy ourselves and there will be some sort of final day, an end to life.

The apocalypse will not be George W. Bush’s fault because he has proven as a chicken hawk war profiteer he has no faults. It is well documented that people around Bush planned the Iraq war long before he became the “war president.”

Before their propaganda leads you to believe we now should attack Iran, familiarize yourself with the Project for a New American Century. They desired a “cataclysmic catalyzing event” like Pearl Harbor. These criminals are destroying our nation’s infrastructure with their lack of attention to anything but war and oil profits.

You know the rest: torture of enemy combatants; our loss of civil liberties; selling weapons to Saudi Arabia (where the majority of the 9/11 hijackers came from); signing statements to avoid law — no different than anything a dictator like Hitler would get away with. The guilt of the Bushmen is beyond question, yet his accomplices in Congress refuse to hold him accountable through articles of impeachment.

On the other hand, I believed that I had a right to control my mind and body and I called that liberty; for this I am being held accountable.

Just like George W. Bush and over 94 million Americans, who according to U.S. government statistics tried marijuana at least once in their lives, I ignored the “law” and exercised my constitutional, inherent right to life, liberty and property.

This does not mean I believe children should use marijuana. If marijuana was controlled similarly to alcohol and tobacco, it could be taxed and some of the monies could go to educating our children about drugs instead of lying to them and incarcerating their parents for choosing something natural over the lethal drugs sold by government backed pharmaceutical corporations.

Although I will continue to believe that life is a miracle and try to love life in spite of my hardships; I will never forget Aug. 9, 2007. On that day I discovered beyond any reasonable doubt that the U.S. constitution is void. For me that was the day the music died.

Copyright: 2007 MultiMedia Interactive

This is an article you might find interesting.

http://www.aclu.org/drugpolicy/gen/10903prs20050126.html

Excerpt:

WASHINGTON - The U.S. Department of Justice has notified Congress that it will not defend a law prohibiting the display of marijuana policy reform ads in public transit systems. The controversial statute was recently ruled unconstitutional by a federal district court. The Solicitor General Paul Clement stated in a letter to Congress that, "the government does not have a viable argument to advance in the statute's defense and will not appeal the district court's decision." Today is Congress' last day to respond to the federal appeals court in the D.C. Circuit.

Less than a week after Ticketmaster spilled the beans about Bruce Springsteen & The E Street Band’s forthcoming tour, it looks like they prematurely announced a date for Neil Young’s fall tour, too. According to this page, Neil Young and Crazy Horse will play at the Keller Auditorium in Portland, Oregon, on October 22nd. Tickets go on sale Saturday, September 8th. Only one-third of Crazy Horse (drummer Ralph Molina) plays on the forthcoming Chrome Dreams II, but it looks like they’ll be the backing band on the tour. Young hasn’t toured solo since the 2003-04 Greendale tour.

He's a Bush backer, there's no doubt. Whether he's been invited to the White House or not, I don't know either.

Anybody that associates with him should be ashamed... and probably, are.

I would imagine that politicians, and the Wall Street Journal, which, as you know, recently published and op-ed or something written by Nugent, and any other right wingers are all trying to figure out a way to back pedal from their associations with him.

I have been a member myself. I'm not now.

Having him on their board of directors adds an ungodly stench to what, I have always believed, is a worthwhile, rights protecting organization, that is absolutely beyond bearing for anyone with with even the slightest amount of integrity.

Nugent is good reason to NOT be a member of the NRA and they better realize that, sooner, rather than later.

He is doing so much for the anti-gun groups out there. All they have to say is, "Look at Ted Nugent".

If anyone in the Republican party had any sense they would do the same. To allow Nugent to be a spokesman for any cause, other than sheer lunacy, is a huge mistake.

He is so repulsive and disgusting.

It seems obvious that he has broken some serious laws against threatening certain people. It seems to me that the Feds have a serious obligation to call on Nugent and ask some serious questions and bring charges. The law says "threaten"... and he certainly has.

But, I'm guessing they're too busy busting medical marijuana people to bother with a vile piece of work like Nugent.

Anybody else would already be in jail for voicing the threats he made.

I think "Joking" was a poor choice of words to use in describing his public tirade. Joking? What was the joke? I don't get it.