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  The Hippies Were Right All Along -- We Knew That 

Posted by CN Staff on August 22, 2007 at 09:09:59 PT
By Mark Morford, SF Gate Columnist 
Source: SF Gate 

USA -- Go ahead, name your movement. Name something good and positive and pro-environment and eco-friendly that's happening in the newly "greening" of America and don't say more guns in Texas or fewer reproductive choices for women because that would defeat the whole point of this perky little column and destroy its naive tone of happy rose-colored optimism. OK? I'm talking about, say, energy-efficient lightbulbs. I'm looking at organic foods going mainstream. I mean chemical-free cleaning products widely available at Target and I'm talking saving the whales and protecting the dolphins.
I mean yoga studios flourishing in every small town, giant boxes of organic cereal at Costco and the Toyota Prius becoming the nation's oddest status symbol. You know, good things. Look around: We have entire industries devoted to recycled paper, a new generation of cheap solar-power technology and an Oscar for "An Inconvenient Truth." Even the soulless corporate monsters over at famously heartless joints like Wal-Mart are now claiming that they really, really care about saving the environment because, well, "it's the right thing to do" (read: "It's purely economic and all about their bottom line"). There is but one conclusion you can draw from the astonishing pro-environment sea change happening in the culture and (reluctantly, nervously) in the halls of power in D.C., one thing we must all acknowledge in our wary, jaded, globally warmed universe: The hippies had it right all along. All this hot enthusiasm for healing the planet and eating whole foods and avoiding chemicals and working with nature and developing the self? Came from the hippies. Alternative health? Hippies. Green cotton? Hippies. Reclaimed wood? Recycling? Humane treatment of animals? Medical pot? Alternative energy? Natural childbirth? Non-GMA seeds? It came from the granola types (who, of course, absorbed much of it from ancient cultures), from the alternative worldviews, from the underground and the sidelines and from far off the grid and it's about time the media, the politicians, the culture as a whole sent out a big, hemp-covered apology. Here's a suggestion, from one of my more astute ex-hippie readers: Instead of issuing carbon credits so industrial polluters can clear their collective corporate conscience, maybe, to help offset all the damage they've done to the soul of the planet all these years, these commercial cretins should instead buy some karma credits from the former hippies themselves. You know, from those who've been working for the health of the planet, quite thanklessly, for 50 years and who have, as a result, built up quite a storehouse of good karma. You think? Of course, you can easily argue that much of the "authentic" hippie ethos -- the anti-corporate ideology, the sexual liberation, the anarchy, the push for civil rights, the experimentation -- has been totally leached out of all these new movements, that corporations have forcibly co-opted and diluted every single technology and humble pro-environment idea and Ben & Jerry's ice cream cone and Odwalla smoothie to make them both palatable and profitable. But does this somehow make the organic oils in that body lotion any more harmful? Verily, it does not. You might also just as easily claim that much of the nation's reluctant turn toward environmental health has little to do with the hippies per se, that it's taking the threat of global meltdown combined with the notion of really, really expensive ski tickets to slap the nation's incredibly obese butt into gear and force consumers to wake up to the gluttony and wastefulness of American culture as everyone starts wondering, "Oh my God, what's going to happen to swimming pools and NASCAR and free shipping from Amazon?" Of course, without the '60s groundwork, without all the radical ideas and seeds of change planted nearly five decades ago, what we'd be turning to in our time of need would be a great deal more hopeless indeed. But if you're really bitter and shortsighted, you could say the entire hippie movement overall was just incredibly overrated, gets far too much cultural credit for far too little actual impact, was pretty much a giant excuse to slack off and enjoy dirty, lazy, responsibility-free sex romps and do a ton of drugs and avoid Vietnam and not bathe for a month and name your child Sunflower or Shiva Moon or Chakra Lennon Sapphire Bumblebee. This is what's called the reactionary simpleton's view. It blithely ignores history, perspective, the evolution of culture as a whole. You know, just like America. But, you know, whatever. The proof is easy enough to trace. The core values and environmental groundwork laid by the '60s counterculture are still so intact and potent that even the stiffest neocon Republican has to acknowledge their extant power. It's all right there: Treehugger.com is the new '60s underground hippie zine. Ecstasy is the new LSD. Visible tattoos are the new longhairs. And bands as diverse as Pearl Jam, Bright Eyes, NIN and the Dixie Chicks are writing anti-Bush, anti-war songs for a new, ultra-jaded generation. And, oh yes, speaking of good ol' MDMA (Ecstasy), even drug culture is getting some new respect. Staid old Time mag just ran a rather snide little story about the new studies being conducted by Harvard and the National Institute of Mental Health into the astonishing psycho-spiritual benefits of goodly entheogens such as LSD, psilocybin and MDMA. Unfortunately, the piece basically backhands Timothy Leary and the entire "excessive," "naive" drug culture of yore in favor of much more "sane" and "careful" scientific analysis happening now, as if the only valid methods for attaining knowledge and an understanding of spirit were through control groups and clinical, mysticism-free examination. Please. Still, the fact that serious scientific research into entheogens is being conducted even in the face of the most anti-science, pro-pharmaceutical, ultraconservative presidential regime in recent history is proof enough that all the hoary hippie mantras about expanding the mind and touching God through drugs were onto something after all (yes, duh). Tim Leary is probably smiling wildly right now -- though that might be because of all the mushrooms he's been sharing with Kerouac and Einstein and Mary Magdalene. Mmm, heaven. Of course, true hippie values mean you're not really supposed to care about or attach to any of this, you don't give a damn for the hollow ego stroke of being right all along, for slapping the culture upside the head and saying, "See? Do you see? It was never about the long hair and the folk music and Woodstock and taking so much acid you see Jesus and Shiva and Buddha tongue kissing in a hammock on the Dog Star, nimrods." It was, always and forever, about connectedness. It was about how we are all in this together. It was about resisting the status quo and fighting tyrannical corporate/political power and it was about opening your consciousness and seeing new possibilities of how we can all live with something resembling actual respect for the planet, for alternative cultures, for each other. You know, all that typical hippie junk no one believes in anymore. Right? Mark Morford's column appears Wednesdays and Fridays in Datebook and on SFGate.com. Source: SF Gate (CA)Author: Mark Morford, SF Gate ColumnistPublished: Wednesday, May 2, 2007Copyright: 2007 SF Gate Contact: mmorford sfgate.comWebsite: http://www.sfgate.com/The Hippies Were Right All Along -- We Knew Thathttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread22941.shtmlCannabisNews -- Cannabis Archiveshttp://cannabisnews.com/news/list/cannabis.shtml 

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Comment #272 posted by FoM on November 11, 2008 at 07:56:14 PT
Veteran's Day Song 
Families By Neil Younghttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9WL2Y6_5tk
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Comment #271 posted by FoM on November 11, 2008 at 06:19:28 PT
museman
We've watched Bobby a couple of times. We bought the movie but it was on tv and we watched it when we saw it was on. 1968 was a year of hope and tragedy. I never believed we could have a government that was worthwhile after MLK and Bobby were killed. 1968 in Chicago was violent but this time it was wonderful. I am way more familiar with Chicago then New York City since that is where my husband goes when there is freight and I went along with him for a couple of years. I love the song Never Going to Break My Faith. The next 8 years will be be very interesting. 
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Comment #270 posted by museman on November 10, 2008 at 23:25:38 PT
FoM
Thanks. "Bobby" was a revelation for a lot of people. I could only watch it once though, I am far too emotional about it.I have to admit to the fact that movies can be positively inspiring -like all art- when that is the intent.I never did see Bobby, but I did get to hear Martin Luther King speak. Remembrance.Arethra Franklin has my r e s p e c t.
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Comment #269 posted by FoM on November 10, 2008 at 19:51:45 PT
museman
We watched Bobby the other day again. I loved this song called Never Gonna Break My Faith. I cried. It's been 40 years and some of us never let go of our dream. Please check out the making of the song please.Aretha & Mary Recording Their Grammy Award Winning Songhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYlM1svwgJ4&NR=1
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Comment #268 posted by museman on November 10, 2008 at 19:31:37 PT
Had Enough
I was wondering....Same address.The sequel does sound interesting.I was just thinking about this thread the other day. About how so many conceptualized ideas of our youth have become -finally- real factors dealt into the hand of every day life. As I watched the door slam in the face of some very angry (but only a handful) sore losers (did you compare the reactions to the "Respect my opponent" speeches? Obama's crowd clapped, but McCain's crowd booed and hissed like abunch of snakes -right on national TV!) I think back to 1968, when we were all talking about Bobby Kennedy as being the next step in the progress of the American Dream of liberty and justice for all. Martin Luther King was giving us, and the very, very opressed Black Man a vision of a very different nation than the one we all lived in in 1968.1968 was the year our generation came of age. They assassinated our next president. They assassinated the most eloquent statesman for equality amongst all men -because of some silly extinct concept of 'racial superiority', and to make the matter worse, they started upping the annie in VietNam. From there the repugs launched their platform based on a military-industrial economy which included the various takeovers of citizens rights and liberties starting with Nixon.Our generation was split into factions, America was split into factions, even more so than before the civll rights movement. The controlling powers orchestrated some mighty fine entertainment for themselves, at great human and ecological expense, gathering a substantial number of our potential flower children into the middle road of materialism in suburbia. The movement of new awareness that was shot to the fore through various experimented experiences, some mighty good, some not so good, was labeled, made war on, socially rejected, discredited, and looked upon through media as some nostalgic flash in the pan of collective generational experience called "the '60's" -but that movement continued.For years the High dreams of our youth were squashed and thwarted, but all along the sanity and reason of the knowlege that life was for living not for fulfilling the comfort and destiny of the chosen few, quietly taught our children well.We taught our children about the earth, that it was a living organism, not an object to exploit for personal gain and gratification. We taught them the repercussion of waste and pollution, and practiced (as best we could in the total lack of community awareness) recycling, and explored alternative, renewable energy sources.We taught them that the only real limits there are to consciousnes are the ones that the mind wants/allows to be there.WE taught them freedom, and liberty, even as the 'schools' were teaching bondage and servitude.And some of the tinkers amongst us gave
us the PC, and the internet ('borrowed' from US D.O.D. nuclear contingency plans), while the artists and musicians were paving the way to consiousness in their art and music.It wasn't an 'entire generation'. In fact it was an oppressed and discriminated against minority.When the mainstream started finaly accepting some of the things we have been doing all along, they sure didn't aknowlege in any way the fact that we kept the faith through all those years of yuppie gluttony, and credit was never given where credit is due. The fact that it was our small but really collective tenacity -having to do with Pearls Of Great Price, and not being willing to give them up for any of the platic-fantastic illusion that the status-quo world has been offering that has provided the very real foundation for this 'New Age' we actually find ourselves in, is ultimately a very fine thing regardless of whether or not the Hippies are rightfully aknowleged in the mainstream or not.When the history gets re-written by experience instead of conquerors, I am sure they/we will be remembered as the historical light in a very dark time.
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Comment #267 posted by Hope on November 04, 2008 at 08:39:13 PT
Lol!
That was funny that day... getting all our "Oooohhhmmmms" together.Sweet memory.
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Comment #266 posted by Had Enough on November 04, 2008 at 06:46:22 PT
Start the Movie
I ran off about three batches of the movie for you…but...They got passed on to other people. It seemed there was more of a demand for them than what I expected. Copies I made went all over the place and I was asked if I had more… so I gave them out. I’m thinkn’ strike while the iron is hot, and I’m sure you agree.I have an address that you gave me, I need to know if that is still the place to send them. If that has changed with the help of FoM we can make an arranged rendezvous on this thread thread, live style so I can get the info and within seconds she can zap it.I have another batch sitting in front of me, and these are for you come Hell or High water.And also there is a sequel out now. It talks about The Venus Project which is a resourced based economy vs. a monetary based economy. You’re gonna love it. It really gives vindication to the title of this thread. The Rainbow Familly too. Haven’t ordered it yet but will real soon, probably before the week is up. When I get that one I will run off a batch and send them on too.We need to do our part and get this info out to everyone who will hear it. You mentioned public showings…cool, let's do it.Both movies are even more relevant given current events of late.
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Comment #265 posted by Hope on July 04, 2008 at 11:23:42 PT
 :0)
I got to Ommm on time.... but had guests arriving this time and couldn't quite get them all into it.... I did it though. But there was more distraction this time. I'm glad I got the preliminary Omm earlier.Thank you for letting me know about it, Museman, so I could participate the best I could.It was cool. Many smiles all around when I told people it was time to Om with the Rainbow People in Wyoming. Nice experience.
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Comment #264 posted by museman on July 04, 2008 at 11:18:56 PT
thank you
for omming with us.Some of my most treasured moments happened in or around Rainbow Gatherings.You want to know one of the most incredible things? The fact that in almost 40 years that idea did not dwindle, or die out, but has been totally refreshed with a new generation who look as if they were taken right out of the Summer of Love 1969 and transported through time to 2008!It is interesting to note that the Rainbow Gathering is only 2 years older than the first beginnings of the WOD -under Nixon.And to note that the WOD is in its last days, as well as a lot of antiquated thinking, but the HIPPIES WILL NEVER DIE!!!!
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Comment #263 posted by museman on July 04, 2008 at 11:09:43 PT
Hope
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!
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Comment #262 posted by museman on July 04, 2008 at 11:09:31 PT
Hope
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!
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Comment #261 posted by Hope on July 04, 2008 at 10:59:35 PT
One minute!!!
OOOOMMM
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Comment #260 posted by museman on July 04, 2008 at 10:36:53 PT
Fom
Thank you.You have great fourth.Today we both pray for peace, and celebrate the concept of Liberty.
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Comment #259 posted by FoM on July 04, 2008 at 10:27:04 PT
Museman
That must have been an out of body type of experience. The Moody Blues are one of my favorite groups. I think I have about all their DVDs and CDs. Stick introduced me to the Moody Blues and I've never been the same. LOL! Seriously they are great.Hope have a wonderful day and keep on rising above it all. 
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Comment #258 posted by museman on July 04, 2008 at 10:24:14 PT
Hope
Nope you haven't missed it, I went off early too!Some of my kids are there this year. Two of my sons rode their bikes from Eugene! (of course they got a ride, or they would still be in Monatana or Idaho.)And Hope, you're definitely a Rainbow!
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Comment #257 posted by museman on July 04, 2008 at 10:21:38 PT
the Moody Blues
Are my all-time favorite band.My one and only LSD trip at a rock concert wasn't until 1993 at a Moody Blues concert in Medford Oregon.It was wonderful.
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Comment #256 posted by Hope on July 04, 2008 at 10:17:09 PT
 'Welcome Home.'
That means "Peace" to me, too.
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Comment #255 posted by Hope on July 04, 2008 at 10:15:46 PT
When I saw that it was exactly twelve on my
computer... I was so excited and went right to Omming.Omming's good for you. I'm still smiling. Can't wait until one... it's bound to be even better.
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Comment #254 posted by FoM on July 04, 2008 at 10:15:41 PT
The Moody Blues - OM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TwcizavYNTc
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Comment #253 posted by Hope on July 04, 2008 at 10:13:10 PT
Grace
I'm running around here, inside and outside, busy, busy, busy... and sat down for a break right at twelve o'clock.But.... I was an hour early... on the dot.Maybe I'll get more Grace and get it right at 1:00. I did feel the Oneness, though. How exciting that it was just a prelude. I hope I don't miss it!!!
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Comment #252 posted by Hope on July 04, 2008 at 10:06:48 PT
 And 
The God of All... The One.Oooom.
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Comment #251 posted by FoM on July 04, 2008 at 10:06:40 PT
museman
That is one of the finest compliments that I have ever had. Hope you are the best.
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Comment #250 posted by Hope on July 04, 2008 at 10:04:28 PT
With them and You and Martha and all...
I feel the Oneness!Hallelujah!
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Comment #249 posted by museman on July 04, 2008 at 10:04:20 PT
FoM
If ever there was one who was an example of what I would call a 'rainbow person' it is you, and most of the folks who post here, though even those wouldn't think of going would still be welcome.The Rainbow slogan is 'Welcome Home.'
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Comment #248 posted by Hope on July 04, 2008 at 10:03:32 PT
My heart and mind is with them in Spirit and Soul.
"It is a prayer for freedom from the bondage from false taskmasters.It is prayer for life, joy, and happiness.They are gathering in the meadow, and joining hands about now.Om"
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Comment #247 posted by Hope on July 04, 2008 at 10:02:14 PT
Ommming
for Grace, Mercy, Blessings, and Peace and Love.On the Dot!!! Grace!!!
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Comment #246 posted by FoM on July 04, 2008 at 10:00:02 PT
Rainbow Gathering 
I appreciate them. I agree with them today too.
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Comment #245 posted by museman on July 04, 2008 at 09:57:36 PT
Hope
11:30 MST :-)>
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Comment #244 posted by museman on July 04, 2008 at 09:56:04 PT
hope
Man I keep going off prematurely.You're right. There is one hour difference between the zones, so if it is 10 here, it is 11 there.Sometime around 11:30 the people will start to gather in the meadow.Now I got it right.
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Comment #243 posted by museman on July 04, 2008 at 09:52:19 PT
Hope
The first Rainbow Gathering was about praying for world peace, and that theme has become prevalent.It is also prayer for the natural world, those whose tribal consciousness, and choices of lifestyle accordingly have been made target by the powers and principalties of evil.It is a prayer for freedom from the bondage from false taskmasters.It is prayer for life, joy, and happiness.They are gathering in the meadow, and joining hands about now.Om
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Comment #242 posted by Hope on July 04, 2008 at 09:26:11 PT
Post 239 Museman
A little extra Ommmning won't hurt.:0)
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Comment #241 posted by Hope on July 04, 2008 at 09:25:12 PT
It's 11:23 here...
So I'm thinking it's 10:23 in Wyoming.So we've got about an hour and a half as I calculate.What are we supposed to pray/meditate/think about at that moment and for how long?
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Comment #240 posted by museman on July 04, 2008 at 09:10:10 PT
Hope
In about an hour. Sorry, my computer time is off by an hour.It is now a little after 9 here.Still time to get ready to participate.
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Comment #239 posted by museman on July 04, 2008 at 09:04:14 PT
Hope
It is happening right now!
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Comment #238 posted by Hope on July 04, 2008 at 08:51:48 PT
Mountain Time shows 9:49 AM right now
and it's 10:49 here CST... adjusted for Daylight Savings Time.So high noon there should be at 1 PM here... I think.
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Comment #237 posted by Hope on July 04, 2008 at 08:48:53 PT
AARRG!!!!
http://www.timetemperature.com/tzus/time_zone.shtmlRight now... according to the above site the times are: 	
	Dang it... just have to look... they won't copy and paste easily.
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Comment #236 posted by Hope on July 04, 2008 at 08:45:11 PT
Daylight Savings Time!
So it will be when CST?
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Comment #235 posted by Hope on July 04, 2008 at 08:44:14 PT
Oh no... forgot to calculate Daylight Savings Time
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:National-atlas-timezones-2006.gif
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Comment #234 posted by Hope on July 04, 2008 at 08:43:15 PT
How can it be a half hour from now....
 or when you made your post....or am I confused?According to my calculation... it will be nearly two hours from now.Help my understanding!
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Comment #233 posted by Hope on July 04, 2008 at 08:41:06 PT
Museman... Thanks.
So that will be 1 PM, Central Standard Time? Is that right?
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Comment #232 posted by museman on July 04, 2008 at 08:33:30 PT
37th annual Rainbow Gathering
Today at high noon MST in Wyoming, thousands of people will join hands in a circle and Om, a prayer for peace and consciousness. In about a half hour from now.Today thousands of people will keep a vow of silence - an incredible experience being with thousands of deliberately silent human beings- until they all gather to circle and pray in a big meadow.Anyone who would like to vicariously share in the experience may set aside a few moments at noon (MST), close their eyes and envision a circle of several thousand people, all in agreement and focussed. It is the circle of man, and we are all represented there.Peace
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Comment #231 posted by museman on June 24, 2008 at 11:35:54 PT
Had Enough, Toker....
There's more.My sons discovered this one. I think it goes right in hand with Zeitgeist.It is long, and I haven't even finished it yet -stayed up till late trying to but believe me, you will be awake and paying attention at some point.Had Enough... please give me an address to respond to, I will be making some music DVDs at some point, adn you are on my list.
Ring of Power
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Comment #230 posted by Toker00 on June 22, 2008 at 16:39:52 PT
Hippie Nation
Peace and Pot.You're welcome Brother. Even with the few mistakes it contains, it is accurate enough to give many people the knowledge to resist the mind games. 2012. If things do begin anew, then Good may rule the Earth for the next Universal cycle. Though it may not start out good, it may end up Good, like we are ending this cycle buried in the smothering weight of Evil, the next galactic cycle may end up with Goodness as weightless as our spirits. Maybe that is the perfect balance we all have to experience to know God. The total experience of Good and Evil, endlessly, or until God gets tired of it all...Toke.
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Comment #229 posted by FoM on June 22, 2008 at 12:55:45 PT
Had Enough
I'm back watching Property Ladder to get back into construction mode. The lady who has rented our one house has been in the house for close to 18 years I think. She suffered kidney failure and is on dialysis 3 times a week so coming home isn't an option. I feel bad for her family packing up everything and moving it to storage or whatever they are doing with her possessions. No one is telling her that she won't ever be able to come home because it would break her heart. 
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Comment #228 posted by Had Enough on June 22, 2008 at 11:45:33 PT
Not to worry FoM…
Everybody has their own thing to deal with. I’m not offended at that. None what so ever… A lot of times I don’t respond when I should.************Toker, I got the Zeitgeist movie from their website. Hi-resolution. Pumping out free copies. 5 went out the door today. I wanted to share something with you.The first time I saw that movie was from a link you had left us. I had plenty to do that day, but it captured my attention so much, I watched it several times that day…Man…the truth, all in one nice neat little tidy package…with huge meaning and impact…I wish to thank you for that…Got to go for now, be back soon…
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Comment #227 posted by FoM on June 21, 2008 at 14:06:16 PT
Had Enough
I'm glad you liked the links. I've been really busy today and I'm sorry it took so long to get back to you.
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Comment #226 posted by Had Enough on June 21, 2008 at 10:49:10 PT
Neil Young
Thanks for the links…I enjoyed that.
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Comment #225 posted by Had Enough on June 21, 2008 at 10:30:21 PT
It worked
Used BGreen & musemans advice to try to burn from the hard drive rather than disk to disk.There are just a few spots that appear to slightly pause, but when I replay the spots they seem to play okay. Much better that the disk to disk operation. I don’t think most people would even notice them. Also the drive I played it back on is almost 3 yrs old and has had a ton of disks cycled through it…so…That might be part of it too.Burned the disk using Roxio program on backup machine, that version copies it to the hard drive first then burns it to the disk. That is the version I used on the primary machine before the crash. The version on it now is an earlier version that burns directly to the disk. Contacted Dell again…they said they would send me the version I had. But they already tried twice…still ended up with the older version…maybe this time it will be the one I’m lookin’ for.But anywho… it worked and almost ready to make a batch.
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Comment #224 posted by FoM on June 21, 2008 at 06:56:17 PT
I Just Found The Web Site For CSNY Deja Vu
http://csny-dejavu.com/
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Comment #223 posted by FoM on June 21, 2008 at 06:33:11 PT
Neil Young Says....
Neil Young Says President Bush Is An Idiot Who Is Driving The Country Into InsanityBy Howie EdelsonNeil Young had some harsh words for President George Bush and his tenure as a wartime president.Young spoke about the criticism that the recent Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young documentary CSNY - Deja Vu has received, telling Uncut, "We're not telling the world what to do... It's so funny what people say about us... We're not trying to control the world. All we're saying is, 'Hey this f***ing president is killing us. This f***er is driving the country into insanity. This f***er is responsible for America being the most hated country in the world right now. That's what we're saying. All I'm saying is: 'This is what I think about this idiot. What do you think?'"Complete Article: http://www.kbsradio.ca/news/music/87/741092
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Comment #222 posted by FoM on June 20, 2008 at 16:34:44 PT
Had Enough
It sounds like you've had good luck with tech support. I haven't had any problems with this computer. I did hear a tapping from time to time right after I got it and because that is how my old computer sounded but way louder and screechy I called Dell. I told him about the slight tapping sound and he told me to box it up and send it back. It was very faint. I said no thank you. I figured if it crashed it crashed because it has a year warranty. I figured it out a week or so later that I needed a PRL update for my data card and now this computer is as quiet as a mouse. I am happy with Dell. I always had Gateways and was happy with them too. I guess I'm just happy about everything! LOL!
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Comment #221 posted by Had Enough on June 20, 2008 at 15:18:00 PT
Clarification
The Roxio program that I referred to as using a lot was burning CD’s not DVD.This is my first try at this…so I don’t really know how well it works with DVD’s.I’ll try burning another one later while I can sit down and concentrate on how to use it with DVD’s.I’ve been having a lot of distractions here today, all week for that matter, so…I didn’t get very much done…With both the daily grind, and learning how to make movies…:)..
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Comment #220 posted by Had Enough on June 20, 2008 at 14:54:46 PT
Vistas’ Roxio
You don’t have anything to loose. The program is already installed and written to run under Vista…so…give it a whirl…see what happens.If it doesn’t work you can always do the restless consumer thing…Also…Dell…Very pleased.I purchased this computer 2-1/2 years ago. I purchased the full 3 yr extend support about 200 bucks. I had an issue with one of the hard drives about a year ago. The next day at 8:30 am a guy in his mid sixty’s showed up knocking on the door with a hard drive in his hand. 20 minutes latter he was ready to go. He told me the hard drive is rebuilding it’s self and will take about 2 hrs to finish. He told me I could use the computer as normal while it was being done. I asked him how can the hard drive rebuild it’s self if the data is constantly being changed while I’m using it…He responded…”I love Windows XP… It’s the way the operating system works.”To be on the safe side I used the machine very little during the process, and everything came out fine.During this last crash these techs were super cool. I had to contact them about a dozen times inside of a week. Each time they followed through with all the notes from the prior calls. And on two occasions I got a tech that I dealt with on prior calls… cool…they were already familiar with the glitches I was having. Several times they took control of the computer and operated it from their end to see if they could solve the problems, and we finally got things going. I’m still a little nervous though…it wasn’t a smooth clean install. I’m thinking maybe I should give the hard drives one of those military 7 time formats and start from there.Now they offered to extend the warranty/support for another 2 (might be 3, have to double check) yrs for about 250 bucks…I’m thinking on biting on that… If they will extend the warranty on a 3-year-old machine…with that quality of support/warranty…I just might part with 250 bucks I’d rather spend on something else that’s needed.
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Comment #219 posted by FoM on June 20, 2008 at 13:58:02 PT
Had Enough 
I'll give Roxio a try. I liked Nero 6 on my old XP. Windows Movie Maker is fine too. I haven't taken many pictures or downloaded much of anything so I haven't been inspired recently. 
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Comment #218 posted by Had Enough on June 20, 2008 at 13:05:41 PT
Roxio
Roxio is from Sonic Solutions.I’ve used it a lot and have had good luck with it.However there are quite a few versions.The one I had was Sonic DigitalMedia LE v7That one is still on the backup computer, but is gone from the primary machine after the rebuild.I will figure out how to get it back somehow.A lot of people like that Nero program that BGreen mentioned…I never used it because I was happy with the Roxio program. It did every thing the way it’s supposed to.Try messing around with your Vista version of Roxio. You might like it.
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Comment #217 posted by FoM on June 20, 2008 at 11:06:37 PT
Had Enough
I just looked on my Dell computer and I have Roxio Creator 9. I can't figure out how it works so far though. 
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Comment #216 posted by Had Enough on June 20, 2008 at 10:21:14 PT
Burned Movie
Thanks BGreenOk, I burnt the disk. It worked but there are pause like skips. I used a Roxio program to burn it.It went directly from disk to disk.I’ll try musemans advice to put it on the hard drive first.I just had to reinstall the operating system – problems installing Service pack 3. The Roxio programs that were sent from Dell during my rebuild is not the same as what was on it before the reinstall. I might have to do a little more research to get that program back. The support techs gave me some information and some sites to help find it. And then they told me to call back if I couldn’t find it, and they will try help again. They sent me two Roxio Disks, but they are not the same as I had before the crash. Dell has a very good support operation. They were very helpful during the process.************Vista…if you like it... use it.I’m still using XP pro. If I switch to Vista I’ll have 3 perfectly good working printers and one scanner that will not work and will end up being used for doorstops. Probably half of my programs will have to be replaced. Two of those 3 printers have the kind of cartridges that I refill myself, no chips to interfere with the refill process. Just pull the cartridge, remove the plug, fill with ink, replace plug, insert cart, then print. Just for grins and giggles I timed myself once. About 35 seconds start to finish for one cart, but I had the ink out and already set to go. There are 6 cartridges in the print head. Office Depot/Staples charges about 60 dollars for a set of six carts. I can refill for about 20 cents per cart.These 2 printers are Cannon iP6000. If you reprogram the EEPROM it will print on CD’s too. I got a tray and roller kit off of eBay and it works really well. It took only a few minutes to install the roller kit and to reprogram the printer.
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Comment #215 posted by museman on June 19, 2008 at 23:27:29 PT
Had Enough -burning
DVD + or - makes no difference to the 'closed' disc, to the DVD player, only to the compatability of media vs burner.Most DVD burners now are both +/- but there are some that require either the + or - .DVD burning programs are tricky though. I don't have one to recommend unfortunately, cause every one I've used I'm not impressed with.If you are making several copies, I suggest making a disc image first, it will save you possible glitches and partial burns which result in a dead DVD disc.
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Comment #214 posted by FoM on June 19, 2008 at 19:37:28 PT
BGreen
I agree with that. I was just messing around with Windows Movie Maker. It came back to me. I used Nero and Windows Movie Maker. They had different features but they both worked once I figured them out. My sister has done remarkable Weddings using Windows Movie Maker. Maybe she has another program now though. I'm not sure. She's really good. She makes good money doing Weddings. It would drive me crazy being around Weddings as much as she has been over the years. LOL!
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Comment #213 posted by BGreen on June 19, 2008 at 19:20:38 PT
I'm glad you've had good luck with Vista
My computer = ain't broke.My solution = don't fix.LOLThe Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #212 posted by FoM on June 19, 2008 at 18:39:43 PT
BGreen
I had to get a new computer and it had Vista on it already. I like Vista. I liked XP too. I was able to load Front Page 2003 on Vista. That was over $100 so I am glad it works. I need to try something using the Windows DVD Maker that came with my computer and see if it works ok. I liked Windows Movie Maker with XP and I know how to use it so it should be easy using it with Vista I hope. I don't do fancy things. I never learned and now I don't even want to try. LOL!
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Comment #211 posted by BGreen on June 19, 2008 at 16:23:57 PT
I just won't install Vista
Nope, no way. I've heard so many bad things about people not being able to use software they've purchased, and I just don't have money to replace every program when my computer works just fine as it is.The Reverend Bud (xp) Green
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Comment #210 posted by FoM on June 19, 2008 at 16:16:34 PT
BGreen
I was hoping I could use my Nero disc from my XP in my Vista but I read 6 won't work. I haven't tried Windows DVD Maker that came with this computer yet.
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Comment #209 posted by BGreen on June 19, 2008 at 15:28:24 PT
plus R discs are fine
That's all I've ever used so you're all set.To be able to directly copy a DVD you have to make sure there is no copy protection at all.I use Nero v.6 to burn my DVD's.New compilation/DVD-video/drag and drop VIDEO_TS folder from hard drive copy of DVD and burn.You can copy the files from the DVD to your hard drive and see if it works. If not, I'll set you up with some trial version software for you to use.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #208 posted by Had Enough on June 19, 2008 at 15:07:54 PT
Start the Movie
It arrived. I ordered it about 3 weeks ago. Friday I emailed them they said it had been shipped. They said they would send out another one. It was in the mailbox Wednesday.Silver lining if you look for one. Maybe someone might have found the first one in their mailbox and put it in their DVD machine…and maybe thought it was kinda interesting…************Now I need a little help here with burning the copies.I’ve burned a lot of CD’s, but never a DVD, this will be my first go ‘round at it.Main question.I already have a pack of DVD+R disks. Are these disks ok for burning movies???Or should I use the DVD-R format???Or does it even matter???I'd like to use what I already have instead of doing the restless consumer thing.************Special note to those that maybe concerned, regarding copyright laws:The creators of this movie allow, and even encourage copying and distribution of their flick.Not greedy, like some organizations…
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Comment #207 posted by museman on April 23, 2008 at 21:21:56 PT
couple old hippies
Me 'n this guy did a lot of minstrelin' 'back in the day'
Tiananmen Square
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Comment #206 posted by FoM on March 04, 2008 at 13:41:24 PT
Whig
It is nice to touch base. We all are busy these days but at least our issue is moving forward. Slow but steady. Please tell Mrs. Whig hello.
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Comment #205 posted by Hope on March 04, 2008 at 13:04:01 PT
Whig...
That's very good to hear. And thank you for checking in with us. That's always appreciated.You are a researching son-of-a-gun! (Here in Texas, that's not an insult, by any means. It means... "Wow! You are so really good at it!":0)
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Comment #204 posted by whig on March 04, 2008 at 12:23:18 PT
Hope & FoM
Things are going well, I think. I don't stop here as often these days, but it's nice to touch base now and again.
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Comment #203 posted by Hope on March 04, 2008 at 09:24:37 PT
Hey, Whig!
Good to see you. Hope you are feeling well and things are going well for you and Mrs. Whig.
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Comment #202 posted by FoM on March 04, 2008 at 05:24:01 PT
Whig
It's nice to see you. I grew Chamomile a number of years ago. It made a nice calming tea.
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Comment #201 posted by whig on March 04, 2008 at 01:53:46 PT
er...
2C would actually be much larger. Call this 1C, bang it 100 times and just use half as much water in half the bottle size. Much better. To create a 2C empty out 99 parts of your 1C, refill with fresh water, bang it 100 times. 3C can be made from 2C in the same way. You're probably not getting into interesting potencies until 6C or 30C.basically, figure it out.
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Comment #200 posted by whig on March 04, 2008 at 01:49:19 PT
copied
http://www.homeopathyandmore.com/menu/potency/potency.phpso my comments are additional. you may note that it is standard to "bang the bottle" 200 times rather than 50 to create a 2C. If you do 50, you can't call it 2C.
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Comment #199 posted by whig on March 04, 2008 at 01:36:20 PT
glass bottles might be better
but you decide what to do
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Comment #198 posted by whig on March 04, 2008 at 01:34:50 PT
you could also make tea first
How to Make Your Own Potentized Medicine From a Herb:1.   Say, if you have Chamomile growing in your backyard, which is a homeopathy remedy.2.   Following are the steps to make potentize Chamomile medicine.3.   Wash, clean and liquefy the whole plant in blender, this is Mother Tincture of Chamomile.4.   Take a clean clear plastic 2 liter bottle. Fill it half with one liter spring or rain water. Half filled so the liquid could be shaken vigoursly.5.   Add a drop of Mother Tincture from Step 1. Add it into the one liter water in 2 liter water bottle.6.   Since One drop is equal to 1/10 ml, adding it into 1000 ml makes the ration of 1:10000, which is 4x potency or 2C. 1C = 2X. 30 C = 60X.7.   Medicine is ready only if you shake the bottle vigorously by banging it at least 50 times. This is called dynamization. 
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Comment #197 posted by museman on February 05, 2008 at 15:43:36 PT
 a little taste
of a psychedelic past. For friends. Fresh nostalgia, at least for me...I'm having fun with the digital age. If not with it's rulers and their master plan for world conquest.peace
Impromptu in A
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Comment #196 posted by FoM on January 31, 2008 at 11:56:09 PT
Had Enough
Thank you for the links. With the wind we had over the last few days it would probable break but I would love to try wind power because of being high up on a ridge.I'm glad Paul McCartney is doing ok.
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Comment #195 posted by Had Enough on January 31, 2008 at 11:52:27 PT
Power to the People
Installed U.S. Wind Power Capacity Surged by 45% in 2007 
The U.S. wind energy industry installed 5,244MW in 2007, expanding the nation's total wind power generating capacity by 45% in a single calendar year and injecting an investment of more than $9 billion into the economy, according to the American Wind Energy Association (AWEA), Washington, D.C. The new wind projects account for 30% of the entire new power-producing capacity added nationally in 2007 and will power the equivalent of 1.5 million American households annually. To read this story online, visit EC&M's Web site.http://ecmweb.com/ezone/wind-power-surge/
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Comment #194 posted by Had Enough on January 31, 2008 at 10:27:47 PT
McCartney: I Didn't Have Angioplasty
McCartney: I Didn't Have AngioplastyJan 31, 1:13 PM (ET)NEW YORK (AP) - Paul McCartney says recent media reports that he had a heart procedure last year are "entirely untrue." 
"People are ringing and texting me saying, 'Are you OK?'" he writes in a posting on his newly redesigned Web site. "I hadn't seen the report so I was puzzled by so many enquiries about my health. So I think it's a good time to put this rumour to rest."More…http://apnews.myway.com//article/20080131/D8UH11001.html***********Hi everybody,Happy New Year!I hope it’s a great one for all of us.There’s been a lot of stuff in the newspapers over the past few months and as most of it is completely inaccurate, I have not bothered to deny any of it.There is one report though, that is causing concern amongst many friends of mine which was a recent report about a heart operation that I was supposed to have had.Pauls websitehttp://www.paulmccartney.com/news.php#Home pagehttp://www.paulmccartney.com/
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Comment #193 posted by FoM on January 29, 2008 at 15:23:12 PT
For Those Who Are Interested
I really enjoyed the CSNY Freedom of Speech Tour and think the documentary seems really interesting. I hope it will be released before the November election.***CSNY Deja Vu - (Documentary)By JOHN ANDERSONA 
Making music, making fun of themselves and making as much political hay as possible, Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young set out to alleviate the public allergy to Iraq War films with "CSNY Deja Vu," a doc that seems quite likely to effect a cure. Helmer Bernard Shakey -- a.k.a. Neil Young -- has constructed a chronicle of his old band's "Freedom of Speech" tour of summer '06 and come up with an aud-friendly, activist musical that seems sure to raise both political ire and major bucks.Thanks to his proclivities for grunge, his political instincts and a timeless fashion sense, Young has never been locked into any particular era or demographic. Similarly, his drollery makes him ageless: From the first shot of an open highway, obscured by the band bus's window frame, to the citations from critics assailing the band for its left-leaning decreptitude, nothing is taken too seriously.Except the war. Which is front and center.Complete Article: http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117935957.html?categoryid=31&cs=1
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Comment #192 posted by Hope on January 27, 2008 at 11:41:58 PT
Museman
I couldn't remember where this thread was to check your reply. But here it is!It's so good to hear you are getting better. 
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Comment #191 posted by FoM on January 27, 2008 at 11:28:06 PT
Slide Show from Deja Vu Movie at Sundance 
http://flickr.com/photos/armadsen/sets/72157603797174606/show/
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Comment #190 posted by FoM on January 27, 2008 at 11:11:44 PT
Preview of the movie CSNY Deja Vu
http://www.sundancechannel.com/festival/festival-updates/My-Premiere?ixVideo=230314941&autoplay=1
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Comment #189 posted by FoM on January 09, 2008 at 10:40:19 PT
BGreen
Our first roof lasted 24 years and when we replaced it we didn't have to replace the plywood which would have made it way more expensive. We got really good shingles this time so they should last longer then me I think! LOL!
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Comment #188 posted by BGreen on January 09, 2008 at 10:36:13 PT
To answer your question, FoM
Yes, I think I can patch the roof without having the whole thing replaced. However, our house is almost 19 years old and could probably use a new roof. Money is really, really tight right now so a patch will have to do.I told Mrs. Green that I think the reason our house was damaged was because the trees are bare. We are pretty sheltered from the wind any time there are leaves on the trees, so this is the first time we've had this problem. Hopefully it's the last time, too.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #187 posted by museman on January 09, 2008 at 08:38:29 PT
Hope
Considerably, from the state I have been in since before Thanksgiving. I complained suitably about it a few weeks ago. Lost weight, hair, a lot of autonomy and self-ability due to the pain. Over 6 weeks on my back in one position, lots of pain meds, and a couple of trips to the ER.Made it home before xmas.Been forcing myself to move through the pain, exercizing on a daily routine, it's working. I am now nearly back to the condition (lower back wise) I was before I decided to help a guy push his truck -can't do that anymore.Thanks for asking.
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Comment #186 posted by FoM on January 09, 2008 at 07:04:49 PT
BGreen
I'm glad you didn't get hurt. Hopefully these intense storms wil calm down a little soon.
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Comment #185 posted by BGreen on January 08, 2008 at 20:56:39 PT
Thanks, Hope and FoM
I didn't even think, I just reacted. I wasn't at all afraid when I was out there. I immediately formulated a plan and went to work. I used a can of spray asphalt undercoating for cars, three plastic grocery bags (similar to walmart bags but black,) and a riding lawn mower blade to secure the lower part of the bags. I was kind of a cross between MacGyver and Pa Ingalls from Little House on the Prairie. LOLI saved our house from destruction twice. Once from Barney Fife back in August and now from the weather, and I believe God has been with me all the way.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #184 posted by Hope on January 08, 2008 at 20:45:11 PT
Museman
"While I was convalescing"? Does that mean you are doing better now? 
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Comment #183 posted by Hope on January 08, 2008 at 20:35:26 PT
BGreen
Oh my! I'm so glad you all are ok. We had a storm and rain last night that will be coming your way, but it wasn't as bad as that. Yep. That sounds like a really bad idea to be on the roof during a storm like that.
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Comment #182 posted by FoM on January 08, 2008 at 20:13:24 PT
BGreen
I am so sorry. The weather is getting more violent. You shouldn't have gone up on the roof. Your life is more important then the roof and house that can be repaired. I'm not lecturing you but nothing material is worth risking your life for it. The temperature is 68 in January right now when it would be more like 20. The winds are really intense. Can you get by with patching the roof or do you need a new one? A few years ago when I saw the shingles being torn off in a storm we knew we had to get a new roof. Stay safe!
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Comment #181 posted by BGreen on January 08, 2008 at 19:19:11 PT
Warm weather = Tornadoes
Last night was SCARY! We had severe storms and tornadoes for over eleven straight hours. Six houses were nearly destroyed just southwest of us and we lost several shingles and our electricity at about 9 P.M.. I was up on the roof in a driving thunderstorm patching the hole, trying to prevent major water damage inside our house. We have damage to the sheet rock but it's limited to about a three square foot area.My patch job worked for several hours but started leaking again during the final storm, about 3 A.M., which packed winds of 60 to 70 mph, according to radar estimates. I know I prevented several thousand dollars worth of damage, but being on the roof in a lightening storm probably wasn't the smartest thing. Two women died from this same storm system so all in all we're darned fortunate.I was scared spit-less for several hours. I hope none of the rest of you have to go through anything similar.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #180 posted by FoM on January 08, 2008 at 13:44:05 PT
fight_4_freedom
It is in the south western portion of the state. It's about 200 miles from our place. We used to take a van full of church kids there for the day. We got discount tickets from GE when my husband worked for them years ago. I couldn't ever do that again! LOL!http://www1.cedarfair.com/kingsisland/
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Comment #179 posted by fight_4_freedom on January 08, 2008 at 13:33:38 PT:
Hope the wind calms down for ya
I remember our satellite t.v. always having problems when we lived out in the country and the weather got bad. I surely don't miss that.I will definitely let you know if I ever head down that way. Recently all my road trips have started out by heading west to eventually lead to California. But maybe I'll plan a different route if I head out there again. We have to go south eventually to get there. I would like to take a different route anyway so I can drive through new states and see new things. I love cross country trips.About King's Island, where is that located? I've heard of it but I've never been there. Smaller version of cedar point?
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Comment #178 posted by FoM on January 08, 2008 at 13:00:18 PT
fight_4_freedom 
Please do let me know. We would go to King's Island but we never went to Cedar Point. We went to Sea World and Geauga Lake up north too.
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Comment #177 posted by FoM on January 08, 2008 at 12:57:36 PT
fight_4_freedom
It is nice and I know it won't last. I wish it wasn't as windy because it causes my air card to run slow and disconnect. Only high wind seems to bother it not like satellite. Rain caused the satellite to go out. I just checked and it is 65 in Cleveland and that's over 100 miles north of us.
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Comment #176 posted by fight_4_freedom on January 08, 2008 at 12:34:09 PT:
It's too bad you
aren't closer to Cedar Point. I try to go once a year with friends just to have a good time. We always have a blast. I haven't really been to the southern part, but if a road trip of mine is ever scheduled to go that way, I'll let ya know :)
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Comment #175 posted by FoM on January 08, 2008 at 12:16:21 PT
fight_4_freedom
We are in the south eastern part. 
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Comment #174 posted by fight_4_freedom on January 08, 2008 at 12:06:03 PT:
Enjoy it while it lasts.... hehe
I'm sure Old Man winter isn't gone yet. So are you in the southern part of the state or is the entire state that warm today?
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Comment #173 posted by FoM on January 08, 2008 at 11:55:31 PT
fight_4_freedom 
It is amazing weather. Seeing a honey bee made me stop and just stare at it for a minute until it flew away. It's January! I think Gore is right too.
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Comment #172 posted by fight_4_freedom on January 08, 2008 at 11:42:43 PT:
70 degrees????
Wow, what a change. It's warm here too but only in the 50's, but still thats near record temp for this time of year.Unfortunately, I believe Mr. Gore is right.
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Comment #171 posted by FoM on January 08, 2008 at 11:35:20 PT
museman
I bookmarked it because I can't get it to load right now. We are having high winds the last few days and it causes my aircard not to be stable. It was down to 10 the other day and now it is 70! I saw a honey bee today! 
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Comment #170 posted by museman on January 08, 2008 at 11:06:58 PT
another offering
While I was convalescing, I had an idea for a simple music video that kind of grew a bit larger than I'd planned...
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Comment #169 posted by FoM on January 04, 2008 at 14:28:01 PT

Had Enough
I like Stephen Stills so much. I will never forget seeing him and hearing him singing Old Man Trouble at the CSNY Freedom of Speech Tour. I hope they got it early. They didn't get Dan Fogelberg soon enough unfortunately.Run For The Roses By Dan Fogelberg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdDwm3QIwfg
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Comment #168 posted by Had Enough on January 04, 2008 at 13:01:40 PT

Stephen Stills Recovering From Surgery
Stephen Stills Recovering From SurgeryJan 4, 2:05 PM (ET)
LOS ANGELES (AP) - Stephen Stills, who had surgery for prostate cancer on his 63rd birthday, was expected to return home Friday, his wife said.Stills, of Crosby, Stills & Nash (and sometimes with Neil Young), had the operation Thursday in Los Angeles, Kristen Stills, said in a statement. 
"Stephen's procedure went remarkably well and he couldn't be better," she said. "He will be home by noon tomorrow and the pain will be minimal."more…http://apnews.myway.com//article/20080104/D8TV889O3.html

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Comment #167 posted by whig on December 11, 2007 at 15:07:54 PT

FoM
It's the early stages of a new electronic classical music.
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Comment #166 posted by FoM on December 11, 2007 at 14:29:31 PT

whig
That was different. I didn't understand what it was about but it was interesting. Thanks for sharing it.
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Comment #165 posted by whig on December 11, 2007 at 14:20:21 PT

FoM
I like to use music to express things. This is Múm. I've shared some of their music before.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yE1UzuKdkgY
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Comment #164 posted by FoM on December 11, 2007 at 13:27:44 PT

I Found This
This article makes perfect sense to me. A Course in Love & Healing 
 Taking Your Place as An Ascending Love Masterhttp://www.thelovecenter.com/taking%20ascending%20lm%20place.htm
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Comment #163 posted by whig on December 11, 2007 at 12:59:42 PT

museman
For your consideration. It may not last long.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascended_Master_Teachings
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Comment #162 posted by FoM on December 01, 2007 at 16:36:58 PT

Museman
 I just found this on Google. I was wondering if we would ever get the Documentary from last years tour but I guess we will in time. This makes me happy.Excerpt: "CSNY Deja Vu," a look at Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young's "Freedom of Speech Tour," as echoes of the '60s play out among today's audiences. Directed by Bernard Shakey (a k a Neil Young), written by Young and Mike Cerre. Closing Night Film. http://origin.sltrib.com/themix/ci_7591084

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Comment #161 posted by FoM on December 01, 2007 at 15:46:45 PT

museman
I have also learned that no matter what our personal relationship with God is it is special and it is hard to explain that to people particular those who don't believe in God. I feel sorry for them but that is as far as I can go. Sooner or later we all come to an awareness as life starts hitting us hard and the great beyond gets closer. 
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Comment #160 posted by museman on December 01, 2007 at 15:29:06 PT

FoM
You're welcome.I agree with your assessment of religion vs spirit(uality). The terms that we have been brought up with don't come even close to expressing the reality of the situation.I believe in things that are readily scoffed at and ignored, which has made it frustrating for me to do my job. There are many perspectives just within our own language that require adjustments when it comes to communicating successfully, so in the process of learning to do that, I have aquired a real love afair with words. I certainly respect and admire the abiltity to do essentially the same thing with less verbosity.
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Comment #159 posted by FoM on December 01, 2007 at 14:53:13 PT

museman
Thank you for explaining. I don't have a Christian faith really. I believe in the Spirit of God and Christianity is what I was taught but I gave up putting God in a box a long time ago. I think that religion has highjacked the world but God hasn't highjacked the world if that makes sense.Religion and Spirituality are totally opposite of one another. The first controls the free thinking man and the second liberates God's children.
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Comment #158 posted by museman on December 01, 2007 at 14:29:33 PT

FoM
Hmm. I guess that's why I felt I could add something to the mix.It's basicly a statement showing how the natural life of mankind, and the creation have been hijacked by a certain kind of class/creed/spiritually polarized minority, how they established their power, and how they perpetuate it.The beginning is probably what throws you off, because some rather harsh conclusions are drawn about the many aspects of religion which are all about lending power and credence to the status quo, and keeping the general population in fear and ignorance.A lot of christian oriented folks will have a hard time getting through the opening 30 minutes because of how they state their findings. If I didn't have the perspective I have had for most of my life, I might not have been able to get through that myself. In my opinion that first part needs to be redressed, which I am going to attempt with my little collection of words.The substance of the message is really what comes after the religious angle, showing how the government in our time, from the very beginning has been a group of the power elite with an agenda extending far beyond what they let the general population see and hear.I understand if you are put off by their anti-religious stance, and as I said I think that that is probably the weakest part, but you should maybe just fast forward past that point, because the information is oh so pertinent, timely and appropriate. I am not easily impressed, and I think that so far this is the best media production on the subject I have seen yet. It's worth getting through potential insult to your faith, to recieve the rest of the message.
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Comment #157 posted by FoM on December 01, 2007 at 14:14:27 PT

museman
I have never watched a movie that long online. It buffers too. It doesn't seem like it would interest me from what I have read. It probably would go right over the top of my head. I really am a person who doesn't look at things like some people do. 
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Comment #156 posted by FoM on December 01, 2007 at 14:06:43 PT

museman
I don't understand what it is about. 
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Comment #155 posted by museman on December 01, 2007 at 14:03:06 PT

FoM
May I ask what confuses you?
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Comment #154 posted by FoM on December 01, 2007 at 13:55:22 PT

museman
No I didn't watch it. I avoid things that confuse me. I am a very simple thinking person. 
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Comment #153 posted by museman on December 01, 2007 at 13:44:25 PT

FoM
The word:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZeitgeistI assume you've seen the video?http://zeitgeistmovie.com/
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Comment #152 posted by FoM on December 01, 2007 at 12:15:21 PT

museman
What actually is Zeitgeist?
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Comment #151 posted by museman on December 01, 2007 at 11:40:03 PT

update
For those who asked for it, and those who are interested, and because of a lot of net media and literary rehash, as well as some very good information is beginning to enter into the mainstream conversation, I felt a need to fill some of the void left in the wake of such things like Zeitgeist. I hope to make a video with this as a narrative.
What is Real part 1
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Comment #150 posted by Had Enough on October 22, 2007 at 09:06:11 PT

Solar Homes Draw Crowds on Mall
Oct 22, 3:34 AM (ET)By H. JOSEF HEBERTWASHINGTON (AP) - Solar power, still a tiny fraction of the energy used today, may be heading closer to the mainstream - if a display on the National Mall over the past week is any indication. Twenty universities brought solar homes to Washington, assembled them in the shadow of the Washington Monument and became a weeklong magnet for people wanting to see what these technology-filled homes were all about. To many visitors, they no longer looked like oddball experiments, but dwellings that had the look and feel - although smaller - of houses in suburbia. Even storm clouds and drizzle didn't keep the curious from standing in long lines one afternoon to look at the one-bedroom homes that had been assembled by students from 16 states, Puerto Rico and three foreign countries. As the rain fell, batteries hidden beneath attached decks and porches provided the juice from energy that had been absorbed on sunny days. Judges ranked each of the houses on 10 criteria, from architecture to market viability to engineering to livability. They required students to wash clothes, prepare meals, run a television, maintain comfortable temperatures and even use excess power to drive a plug-in electric car - and finish the week having used no more electricity than the sun provided. A team of students from Germany's Technische Universitat Darmstadt won the weeklong competition as judges concluded their box-like dwelling was the most efficient, well-designed and well-engineered home in the competition. It featured three walls of solar cell-imbedded louvers that were adjusted automatically by a computer to best take advantage of the sun. The German design "pushed the envelope on all levels," Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman said in announcing the winner Friday, calling it "the house people have been lining up all week to watch." A team from the University of Maryland finished second. Visitors touring their house were attracted by an indoor waterfall that provided a novel way to use a liquid desiccant to soak up humidity so less energy was needed for cooling. "The concept is sound," said Brian Borak, 25, a chemistry major, adding that it's been used in industrial applications, but never in a residential situation. The university is thinking of filing a patent. Renewable energy sources - mostly wind turbines - account for a little more than 2 percent of electricity production. A very small percentage comes from solar, or photovoltaic, cells such as those used in the houses on the Mall, according the Energy Department. But in the two years since the last Solar Decathlon, the competing house designs have become more mainstream, according to judges and participants. For the first time a category of "market appeal" was added to the criteria on which teams were judged. While the prototype homes were said to cost $500,000 or more to design, ship and erect, they also contained many features that are commercially available, according to competition organizers. "In 2005 (the houses) were experiments. This year they're not. ... They're an example of what can be done," said Bob Burt, a building consultant who was one of the judges ranking the homes on market appeal. "There are a couple of houses that when I first walked in I said, 'Yeah, I could live here.'" Leo and Darlene Michitsch, visiting from Cleveland, saw in the homes not only a glimpse into the future, but also a hint of something here today. 
"We have an interest in putting improvements into our home," said Darlene, who teaches art at a university. The couple had already visited several of the houses and "we're learning a lot," she said. Lori Johnson, of Lakewood, Colo., said the modernistic design of most of the houses "is not my style" but they had piqued her interest in solar. "We've talked about the idea of (using) more solar in our home," she said, noting that Colorado had ideal conditions for the technology. "These houses, generally speaking, are much more real, much more part of the next generation of something that is actually going to be built," said Bodman, the energy secretary, whose department sponsored the competition.more….http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071022/D8SE560G0.html

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Comment #149 posted by FoM on October 12, 2007 at 17:15:56 PT

whig
That was very pleasant. 
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Comment #148 posted by whig on October 12, 2007 at 16:31:17 PT

FoM
About 4:20 :)
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Comment #147 posted by FoM on October 12, 2007 at 16:09:17 PT

whig
How many minutes is the video? If I click on the link even if I don't watch the whole thing it charges for the whole thing. That's why I can't click on a movie video link.
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Comment #146 posted by whig on October 12, 2007 at 16:04:23 PT

FoM
If it's all one song, I hope you like this part -- I know you can't listen to much but this is my favorite band.Múmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHTFmJk7fH0
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Comment #145 posted by FoM on October 12, 2007 at 12:04:59 PT

whig
I missed seeing your comment until I just posted. That video is so cool. He seems to be dead when it starts and then gets up off the gurney and it goes into the video. It's all one song.
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Comment #144 posted by FoM on October 12, 2007 at 12:01:30 PT

museman
I'm so glad you got to talk to runruff. He's home where he always belonged. Thank you for the update.
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Comment #143 posted by museman on October 12, 2007 at 11:40:44 PT

runruff
I am pleased to announce that Jerry is now at home, although he is still confined to his house with an ankle bracelet. Just talked to him on the phone. He cannot get online just yet, I'm not sure why, but it probably won't be too long.
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Comment #142 posted by whig on October 10, 2007 at 22:57:12 PT

It's all one song
Hadn't heard that before, but it is, and we're all singing it together.
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Comment #141 posted by whig on October 10, 2007 at 22:56:15 PT

FoM
I've heard the song before, certainly. Never saw the video, it's interesting with him in the clerical collar.
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Comment #140 posted by FoM on October 10, 2007 at 17:36:08 PT

Whig
Have you ever watched this video? I love to play this song in the springtime really loud and the windows open! LOL!Mansion On The Hillhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqa-hdul3X0
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Comment #139 posted by FoM on October 10, 2007 at 17:17:07 PT

whig
I agree. Like Neil said: It's all one song. Being reintroduced to his music after many years of not hearing his music with the CD and Play Greendale I became an instant fan for life. 
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Comment #138 posted by whig on October 10, 2007 at 17:09:22 PT

Something I like
Neil obviously wanted to let these videos come out because it really is good for everyone to hear it, more people exposed means you'll sell more albums I think, even if you lose some sales at the margins. And the purpose of music, after all, is to be heard. I love that.
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Comment #137 posted by whig on October 10, 2007 at 17:06:00 PT

FoM
There's some deep philosophy here I think and I definitely don't want to put words in Neil's mouth he's going to have his own statement in his album really soon.
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Comment #136 posted by FoM on October 10, 2007 at 16:27:50 PT

whig
I'm glad you like it. I am humming it in my head. I listened to it twice today. I would love to listen to it for many plays but can't but the CD will be out soon. I am interested in hearing the song called No Hidden Path. The people who got early preview cds said it is really good and it's long. I think it is at least 11 minutes. I like the lyrics. The Way is so sweet. A man who can write and then sing Let's Impeach The President and then The Way is amazing. 
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Comment #135 posted by whig on October 10, 2007 at 16:11:36 PT

FoM
Good song. Interesting ending. This should be a good album.
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Comment #134 posted by FoM on October 10, 2007 at 15:26:02 PT

Link to Neil Young's New Song: The Way
This is a waltz with a children's choir and it is so upliftng. I think we all need something like this these days or at least I do. Enjoy!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiEZU_UuTwo
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Comment #133 posted by FoM on October 09, 2007 at 17:53:21 PT

Off Topic: Chrome Dreams II 
For Neil fans I listened to the 4 songs. The one that I liked the most was called The Way. Neil has a children's choir singing along. It really is beautiful. I didn't like Dirty Old Man though. http://www.myspace.com/neilyoung 

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Comment #132 posted by FoM on October 04, 2007 at 11:30:24 PT

whig
I agree with Neil too.
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Comment #131 posted by whig on October 04, 2007 at 11:20:05 PT

FoM
I agree with what Neil said about Bill Clinton.
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Comment #130 posted by FoM on October 04, 2007 at 11:01:03 PT

Neil Young's Views on Politics
Thursday October 4, 2007Excerpt: Unlike our 2002 meeting, when he was struggling to articulate his thoughts on 9/11, Young is now only too eager to address current events. Even so, his thoughts are, much like his music, often impulsive. Young has never been accused of behaving like a textbook liberal. In the late 60s, he wrote Ohio, an outraged response to the deaths of four students at the hands of the National Guard at Kent State University. It stands as one of the greatest protest songs to emerge from the era. By the 80s, in stark contrast, Young briefly emerged as a supporter of then president Ronald Reagan. Today, he is equally contrary."This will be seen as the dark ages of vision where it was right in front of us," he says. "Why are all these people upset? What did we do? There has to be a reason. You have to go back through history, and see what we've done to these little countries how we've manhandled them into doing different things in the name of doing good. We didn't realise that our way of life is not the only way of life."He sits and thinks for a while. Back in the 60s, Young marched in protest against the war in Vietnam. He tells me that the liberal idealism of the era was a success. Then, abruptly, his thoughts turn to Bill Clinton. "In this country we had a bad group of events starting with Bill Clinton and leading up to [George W] Bush. Clinton was a catalyst for a lot of this stuff because he played out on a moral stage a very bad scenario. He lied directly to the American people about something that has to do with core family values. He's not a bad person; he made a mistake. But in lying he made a much worse mistake. And although it was very human and people forgive him for doing that, he gave the other side, the conservative side, the aggressive side, a huge opening. If it hadn't been for what he did, Al Gore would have been president. We would have had a president who understands the environment. We would have had a smart man in there."Complete Article: http://music.guardian.co.uk/rock/story/0,,2183160,00.html
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Comment #129 posted by FoM on September 26, 2007 at 10:36:24 PT

museman
That's what I want to hear. 
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Comment #128 posted by museman on September 26, 2007 at 10:30:29 PT

FoM
Glad to hear! Too bad I didn't know, I just spent a week in Eugene building that studio.I anticipate that the problem will be clarified when I get the opportunity to speak with Jerry. It is a pretty petty issue (that I can't talk about,) and once Jerry and I are able to talk face to face, I expect the bumps to get ironed out, at least between Jerry and I. Jerry is a logical, and reasonable man, not prone to hysterics and over-reaction, so I have a reasonable expectation of resolution once all the facts (of the 'issue') are on the table for discussion and in view.And that's probably all that needs to be said on the subject.
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Comment #127 posted by FoM on September 26, 2007 at 10:14:29 PT

museman
Runruff posted here already a couple of times. He is in a half way house in Eugene, Oregon and should be home in a couple of weeks. If the two of you had a falling out, talk it out, because friends are to valuable to not try to work it out.
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Comment #126 posted by museman on September 26, 2007 at 10:00:13 PT

FoM
I'm afraid I can't offer any news about Jerry. As I explained in an earlier post, circumstances about which I cannot publicly reveal have effectively cut off my connection. He is probably angry with me, which would explain why I haven't gotten any word from him in a while.I wish I could explain better, but out of respect for the people concerned I cannot.I do expect his release any day now. If his orginal release date -parole - was last month, he could be getting out as we write. Everyone will just have to wait until word comes back, runruffswife posts some news, or Jerry himnself lets us know. Wish I had more to offer.
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Comment #125 posted by FoM on September 26, 2007 at 09:39:26 PT

museman
Have you talked to runruff yet? He isn't home yet I don't think. I can't wait until he is home and free to talk. Good news about the studio. I enjoy your music.
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Comment #124 posted by museman on September 26, 2007 at 09:34:49 PT

rainbow gathering
Well, I went...for 3 days. Froze our asses off. When it snowed we decided to make tracks for lower altitude. Too cold to play music. Too cold to do anything but huddle.Nice group of folks though. Maybe next year.Spent the last week building a studio with my sons. Haven't worked that hard in years. Got pains in places you wouldn't believe. There will be much music coming out of that room though, so it was worth it.That's where I have been.
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Comment #123 posted by FoM on September 26, 2007 at 07:55:36 PT

Harvest Moon
Tonight we will have a full moon so I thought this was a good song.Neil Young - Harvest Moonhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQXnvNwGTAY
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Comment #122 posted by Hope on September 26, 2007 at 03:36:25 PT

Had Enough Comment 115
I was just thinking the other day about that shade of greenish color those early tinted windows were. The first car my family had with them, I recall that I found them fascinating. They kind of made your eyes feel strange when you got out of them or rolled the windows down.It tickled me to see that in your Lincoln pictures.
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Comment #121 posted by whig on September 25, 2007 at 22:26:41 PT

Jethro Tull
I did get to see them perform once in a fairly small space, the AJ Palumbo Center in Pittsburgh. I respect them for having become popular but then staying true to their own roots.
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Comment #120 posted by FoM on September 25, 2007 at 19:57:02 PT

Had Enough
We bought a 64 and a half black mustang back in the 80s. We bought it from the original owner who worked at Ford and had ordered it. He and his wife ran away and got married in it. It only had 28,000 miles and it wasn't driven much and kept covered in a garage. It was beautiful. We kept it for 10 years and then it was time to sell it. It was a four speed. I never drove it because it was too powerful for me or at least I thought it was. It was a real motorhead car. I'm glad we had it for that time.
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Comment #119 posted by Had Enough on September 25, 2007 at 19:48:18 PT

I love old cars…

Those were cars…Made from metal and had their own character, plastic was just coming about to replace steel with plastic (dead dinosaurs) about that time. From the 1980’s on it seems the cars have more plastic than steel.Yes FoM, I agree…They don’t makem like they useta…*********The Chrome does look good.Think about the title of Neils album…
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Comment #118 posted by FoM on September 25, 2007 at 19:44:27 PT

Had Enough
Beautiful pictures. I love all the chrome. 
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Comment #117 posted by Had Enough on September 25, 2007 at 19:37:28 PT

Broken Links
Try this link for more pictures of the Lincoln.The other link didn’t work for some reason.http://home.xnet.com/~otis/Lincoln/Man what a nice ride….

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Comment #116 posted by FoM on September 25, 2007 at 19:34:39 PT

Had Enough
That is a beautiful car. They knew how to make them. Nowaday's cars don't have class I don't think. They all look the same to me. Some big and some small but too much plastic. I don't like plastic dashboards. 
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Comment #115 posted by Had Enough on September 25, 2007 at 19:28:47 PT

Hot Rod Lincolns
This is a 1959 Lincoln Continental Mark IV just like the one mentioned in the Neil Young article you linked us to.Beautiful car.Check out the hood ornament in these two pics. It might look familiar.http://home.xnet.com/~otis/Lincoln/IMG_3466_1280x1024.jpghttp://home.xnet.com/~otis/Lincoln/IMG_3750_1280x1024.jpg.
more pictures of the Lincoln found here
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Comment #114 posted by FoM on September 25, 2007 at 17:38:34 PT

Had Enough
Jethro Tull was very popular on the radio back in the 70s. I'm glad you got to see them. There is something about concerts that stick with us forever. I have great memories from Neil's concerts that I was fortunate enough to see.
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Comment #113 posted by Had Enough on September 25, 2007 at 17:33:54 PT

Tune for Thoughts
Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick - Madison Sq. Garden 1978http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toHlMD50eYYI saw these guys live twice. I’ll never forget it.

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Comment #112 posted by Had Enough on September 25, 2007 at 17:32:07 PT

Your quite welcome FoM. 
It’s the least I can do for all you do.

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Comment #111 posted by FoM on September 25, 2007 at 17:20:00 PT

Had Enough
I didn't know any of that thank you.Whig if you mean before JFK assassination the USA had a lot of hope for a better tomorrow and it went down hill ever since then. 
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Comment #110 posted by Had Enough on September 25, 2007 at 17:19:38 PT

Re: #109
America was, and still is a better place than Hhmmm, let me think….ChinaRussiaand probably anywhere you go in the Middle East…America is not the problem,It’s the people with saddened intents is where the problem lies.If JFK had lived, we would probably be seeing a different America than what you see now.
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Comment #109 posted by whig on September 25, 2007 at 16:49:02 PT

Had Enough
So before the coup, was America a nice place?
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Comment #108 posted by Had Enough on September 25, 2007 at 16:46:46 PT

Clarification again...
“After the assassination the grille was changed. I’m thinkin that the ornament was left off after the rebuild.’Should have said,The grille was changed shortly after delivery well before the assassination; the whole car was completely rebuilt after the murder. I’m thinkin that the ornament was left off after the rebuild.

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Comment #107 posted by Had Enough on September 25, 2007 at 16:33:59 PT

It's for JFK
That is a hood ornament from an early 1960’s Lincoln.John F. Kennedy was killed in a 1961 Lincoln. It has the same hood ornament.Look at the last picture in this link of one labeled 1963. It’s the same one Neil Young uses on his cover.http://www.cadvision.com/blanchas/hood_ornaments/lincoln.html****After the assassination the grille was changed. I’m thinkin that the ornament was left off after the rebuild.“Delivered to the White House in mid-June 1961, the dark-blue car was dubbed the "X-100" by the Secret Service and fitted with DC license plates "GG-300." In September, the original grille was replaced with a 1962-model grille, apparently for aesthetic reasons. After the Kennedy assassination, the car was completely rebodied by Ford and Hess & Eisenhardt.”http://c.barat.free.fr/lincoln/limousine/limo.html****Here is a picture of the front of the car. It has the hood ornament.“This photograph by Associated Press photographer Ike Altgens captures President Kennedy's limousine as it proceeds down Elm Street in Dealey Plaza in Dallas, Texas on November 22, 1963.”http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Altgens_mary_ferrell.jpg*****Picture of the car now in Henry Ford MuseumAs you can see the hood ornament is gone, and the headlights are different.http://www.pbase.com/papajim_48306/image/73018983

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Comment #106 posted by FoM on September 25, 2007 at 15:44:23 PT

Had Enough
Neil is doing something with his car. I think it's the car that is on Chrome Dreams II.Cover Art for Chrome Dreams II: http://tinyurl.com/3yqkkohttp://www.thrasherswheat.org/wheatfield.html
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Comment #105 posted by FoM on September 25, 2007 at 15:33:09 PT

Had Enough
I sure will let museman know about runruff or runruff know about museman. I hope they get to see each other soon too.
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Comment #104 posted by Had Enough on September 25, 2007 at 15:26:19 PT

And...
If museman posts, let him know about runruff.But why do I have that feeling you were already going to do that? :)*****You found the post. Cool.Thanks

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Comment #103 posted by FoM on September 25, 2007 at 15:16:59 PT

Had Enough
It is going on until the 28th. He should have a lot to tell us when he gets back.http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread23277.shtml#87
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Comment #102 posted by Had Enough on September 25, 2007 at 15:09:14 PT

Gathering
I think he said it was going on till the 27th. Not sure though.It was in his post the day he was leaving. If you can find it, it has the proper dates.

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Comment #101 posted by FoM on September 25, 2007 at 15:03:08 PT

Had Enough
I sure will let him know if he gets back here. I don't know why museman has been gone so long. The Rainbow Gathering must be over by now.
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Comment #100 posted by Had Enough on September 25, 2007 at 14:59:15 PT

FoM
If runruff posts again would you let him know that museman is at a Rainbow Gathering and is away from computers?He might have e-mailed musemans website and wondering why there is no sign of him. I figure that you would see his post before any of us and you can respond quicker than I could.

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Comment #99 posted by FoM on September 19, 2007 at 16:53:59 PT

Had Enough
I'll pass on the seminar! LOL!
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Comment #98 posted by Had Enough on September 19, 2007 at 16:46:13 PT

Utility to Use Batteries to Store Wind Power
 A recent article in the New York Times reported that Washington utility American Electric Power will install hugh banks of high-tech batteries as a way of connecting more wind power to its grid.
 The article goes on to say that the cost of the project is very high, $267 million for six MW of capacity, or about $4500 per kW, including the cost of substation improvements.
 Finally, the article reports that the batteries will use a sodium sulfur chemistry, operate at temperatures of more than 800°F, and will be the size of a double-decker bus.
 http://enews.penton.com/enews/powerquality/power_quality_news_beat/2007_september_18_september/display

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Comment #97 posted by Had Enough on September 19, 2007 at 16:34:25 PT

	HughesNet
FoM. Just found this in the Inbox. Get a load of this stuff.Too bad you can’t go to that seminar and ask a few questions.Maybe it’s better that you can’t be there, they might Taser you before it was over.******·	Distributed enterprises are discovering that their current networks—whether on dial-up or narrowband frame—need to be upgraded to meet their growing bandwidth and connectivity requirements. Today, they have to choose between an expensive MPLS VPN solution or accept the best-efforts reliability and limited reach of DSL-based broadband VPNs. Hughes offers new managed network solutions that deliver the value and performance of broadband VPNs, with true nation-wide coverage, while also offering reliability options that can exceed the typical availability of MPLS implementations.·	Join Hughes Network Systems for this eSeminar and discover: 
	.	The pros and cons of traditional Broadband VPN and MPLS offerings 
	.	What the new HughesNet Optimized and High Availability VPN services offer 
	.	How to determine which solution is right for your companyhttp://www.eseminarslive.com/article2/0,2144,2180437,00.asp

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Comment #96 posted by FoM on September 18, 2007 at 12:28:17 PT

Had Enough
You're welcome. Enjoy. I am looking forward to Chrome Dreams II. The lyrics seem very interesting.
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Comment #95 posted by Had Enough on September 18, 2007 at 11:46:43 PT

Thanks FoM
Thanks FoMGot Ordinary People Live and Studio version. Will listen to it later tonight.Found Farm Aid Concert videos too.********http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdailyTODAY'S BIRTHDAYS 	
 	Frankie Avalon, 68 	Xzibit, 33 	
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Comment #94 posted by FoM on September 18, 2007 at 08:28:32 PT

Had Enough
You can download Ordinary People on this link. The third one seems to be the best quality. You can go to Farm Aid and watch different musicians for a week I read. http://thesongdog.rusties.net/sounds/
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Comment #93 posted by Had Enough on September 18, 2007 at 08:19:55 PT

Farm Aid
Re: FoM #82I was able to get the Neil Young portion of Farm Aid but that was it. Couldn’t find the Chrome Dreams or the rest of the concert.Farm Aid 2007 picshttp://www.webshots.com/search?query=FARM+AID+2007

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Comment #92 posted by FoM on September 17, 2007 at 10:30:09 PT

Opinion from The Oregon Daily Emerald
Have a Good Trip, See You Next Fall...Maybe***By Josh Grenzsund, ColumnistSeptember 17, 2007 
 
Congratulations. You've made the cut to attend this illustrious West Coast institution - an NCAA powerhouse, home of respected environmental law, journalism and physics programs, and bastion of pseudo-hippie illicit drug use. In short there's something for everyone. And as you make your way through this establishment, the classes you choose to take over the next four years will make up one significant part of your professional identity. Choose wisely, because your academic major will greatly define you - both in the work force and in the social world. The other very significant aspect of the construction of your professional and social identities will depend on how you approach the non-academic "recreational" aspect of college life. Sure, recreation can mean clubs, organizations and sports, but let's cut the crap. College recreation orbits around two large social objects - alcohol and drugs.Your overall identity will greatly be defined by your participation in these areas over the next four years because your use or non-use will greatly influence who you associate with, the activities you partake in and your relationship with the law.For those of you abstaining from every substance from heroin to caffeine, I can't relate to you, so you should stop reading this. The next time I have any interaction with you straight-edged freaks will probably be when I'm voting for your opponent in some election or fighting one of your proposed constitutional amendments to limit individual rights. For those of you who are currently recreating or considering trying something harder than Dutch Bros, don't just follow the crowd, do a little research and approach your enrollment in drug courses sensibly.Anti-drug propaganda teaches you to parrot out the phrase that "marijuana is the gateway drug," but two other substances lead more people to illegal substance abuse - alcohol and tobacco.CDC statistics on substance use among high school students show that by their senior year 47 percent of students have tried alcohol and 23 percent have tried tobacco, while only 19 percent have tried marijuana. Interestingly, the use of these "big three" substances remains fairly stable from high school into the 18-25 young adult age group. Nationwide about 53 percent of young adults drink alcohol, 23 percent smoke cigarettes, and 16 percent smoke marijuana, according to CDC and Department of Health and Human Services statistics.Of course most of the stigma associated with the illegality of students' use of alcohol and tobacco is mitigated by the fact that people age out of the illegality of those substances. Conversely, marijuana is among the drugs listed on Federal and State Controlled Substance Schedules, so a user of marijuana maintains this stigma of illegality. Controlled substances are broken into five categories, or schedules, that correspond with the severity of the penalty for use, production or possession. Schedule one drugs include heroin, LSD, ecstasy, peyote, mescaline, psilocybin and marijuana. Schedule two drugs are opium, cocaine and methamphetamine, while schedule three drugs are amphetamine, depressants and PCP.This is information you should definitely consider before seeking out and taking drugs. The surprise, to me anyhow, is that marijuana is listed on schedule one while something as destructive as meth is on schedule two. But these schedules are greatly arbitrary and should only be used to gauge the level of relative illegality of drugs. In truth, any drug can screw up your life, and there are plenty of "lifelong abstainers" who have screwed up professional and personal lives without the help of any drugs at all.Conversely, many people have very successful lives after using drugs. Though he used cocaine, you will see that Sigmund Freud still carries massive sway in academics. Though Bill Clinton smoked pot, we elected him president for two terms. Even presidential hopeful Barack Obama has admitted to smoking pot - and inhaling. He also smokes cigarettes and still he has a great chance at the presidency.Use of certain drugs and abstention from others in college will ingratiate you to some people and mark you as a pariah to others. For example, you heavy pot smokers are probably not hanging out much with those who draw the line with Coke - the drink, not the powder. And you straight-edgers - I told you to stop reading - you probably don't spend time at bars and kegs. Your drug use transcript is a social code for who and what you want to be associated with, and what you don't.Also, as society changes, the attitudes towards the past or current use of certain substances will go in and out of favor and there is always the possibility that drug laws established in the early part of the 20th century will be overturned. Remember the 18th and 21st amendments - goodbye prohibition, and good riddance.In our country, illegality of a substance does not end its use and likewise legality does not translate to ubiquitous use. But also, your drug use or abstention will influence your relation to the law, to society, and will likely affect you for the rest of your life. But it's a free country, and you are completely free to break the law. So, welcome to the University of Oregon, keep your arms and legs inside at all times, and if you so choose, enjoy your trip : ).The Drug Enforcement Agency says that more than one in 10 of you will.Contact: jgrenzsund dailyemerald.com  
Copyright: 2007 Oregon Daily EmeraldURL: http://tinyurl.com/2ft4vd

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Comment #91 posted by FoM on September 16, 2007 at 09:37:05 PT

Dylan and the Beatles: Together Again!
http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1662350-1,00.html
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Comment #90 posted by whig on September 14, 2007 at 13:42:58 PT

Museman
Hope you have a good time. One of these days maybe I'll be able to visit something like that.
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Comment #89 posted by FoM on September 14, 2007 at 11:06:52 PT

Museman 
Excerpt: “Our biggest job is informing the community about the event and trying to go out on rumor patrol and fix people’s perceptions of the group. Because it’s a different culture than we’re used to here in Prineville, there’s a lot of fear and rumors,” said Brandon Smith, a commander with the Crook County Sheriff’s Office. “But just like anybody, these folks want to come out and enjoy our beautiful woods.”http://www.bendbulletin.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070908/NEWS0107/709080487/1007
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Comment #88 posted by FoM on September 14, 2007 at 10:49:32 PT

museman
Have a wonderful time. I'll be with you in Spirit.
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Comment #87 posted by museman on September 14, 2007 at 10:46:50 PT

A Rainbow Gathering
Regional gathering in central Oregon. Started the 11th, running until the 28th.In between Prineville and Mitchell Ore off Hwy 26.Leaving momentarily.
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Comment #86 posted by FoM on September 14, 2007 at 10:43:43 PT

For Neil Young Fans: Chrome Dreams II Lyrics
No Hidden Path***Sometimes when I go walkin’Among the tall treesI feel the light comin’ down on meUnder moon, under sunI feel the chosen oneThrough the mist, come walkin’ here with meComplete Lyrics: http://www.thrasherswheat.org/2007/09/chrome-dreams-ii-lyrics-and-liner-notes.html
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Comment #85 posted by whig on September 11, 2007 at 17:03:34 PT

Greedy Rabbi
He is responsible for his congregation, or they are responsible for him, and either way, he should be out.
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Comment #84 posted by whig on September 11, 2007 at 17:02:29 PT

Greedy Temple
While people go hungry, they decorate their synagogue with finery.
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Comment #83 posted by whig on September 11, 2007 at 16:59:56 PT

Had Enough
That's a lot of money. I wonder what kind of tsedaka their congregation could be doing with that kind of money.
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Comment #82 posted by FoM on September 11, 2007 at 16:01:03 PT

Had Enough
I don't recognize the person who passed away but 55 is way too young to be done living I think. You can download the songs on this link from Farm Aid. You can get Neil's new song (OP) on the rust list. It's great and it's 18 minutes long. I listened to it about 6 times before I turned it off. LOL!PS: The song you must find on the rust list is on Chrome Dreams II.http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/rust/message/188197
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Comment #81 posted by Had Enough on September 11, 2007 at 15:23:26 PT

FoM 
FoM re:#69I’ve always loved that tune. When all the ‘big hair’ bands and ‘heavy metal’ stuff was going on with multiple Marshall Amps cranked wide open with a dozen or so gizmo boxes and petals between the amp and guitar, I used to think; What happened to the music??? One of tunes I used to refer to is that one right there.Couldn’t get farm aid. Tried looking on Internet with no results. We don’t have satellite radio.

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Comment #80 posted by Had Enough on September 11, 2007 at 15:23:22 PT

Southern rock icon dies at his Brooksville home

TAMPA - In 1975, the southern rock band the Outlaws opened for Kiss, a new group with a front man the world hardly knew a lick about. But Kiss' Gene Simmons knew about promotion, and he was generous enough to coach Outlaws' lead guitarist and vocalist Hughie Thomasson. "You're a great guitar player," Outlaw drummer Monte Yoho recalled Simmons saying. "But you're lacking something." "What's that?" Mr. Thomasson asked. "A stance," Simmons said. And so Mr. Thomasson crouched and extended his left leg, an enduring pose as memorable as his high-pitched voice and high-speed fingers. Mr. Thomasson, 55, died late Sunday of an apparent heart attack at his Brooksville home, band tour manager Chuck Smith said. Mr. Thomasson had fallen asleep in his favorite chair after dinner out, Smith said. In the late 1960s and early 1970s, the Outlaws, a Tampa band, toured with Janis Joplin and Creedence Clearwater Revival. The band's debut album, The Outlaws, spent 16 weeks on the charts in 1975 and led to 11 more releases on Arista Records. Green Grass & High Tides, the band's hit 1975 song was named one of Country Music Television's top 20 greatest Southern rock songs. Drummer David Dix's father first spotted young Hughie playing in a beach pavilion outside Egypt Lake. At the first practice, Dix's band launched into a rock standard, and Mr. Thomasson took off on the guitar. "He commanded attention," Dix said. The teen band's existing guitar player stormed out in frustration, Dix said. Mr. Thomasson owned 14 guitars over the years, naming each, including Louise, a favorite. He switched guitars when he felt a different colored one might help him play better. The Outlaws disbanded in the 1990s, when Mr. Thomasson was offered a spot in Lynyrd Skynyrd. He played for nine years until 2005, when he decided to reform the Outlaws. 
more…http://www.sptimes.com/2007/09/11/Hillsborough/Southern_rock_icon_di.shtml
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Comment #79 posted by Had Enough on September 11, 2007 at 15:23:15 PT

More than church seats 
‘right in front of the Rabbi!’ for sale.Boy it sure does cost a lot of money to be a member.While clicking on their website I ran across this.rchandler is from that area I believe. Maybe he has driven by that building before.Dedication Opportunities“We record names in sacred places, We recall loved ones in hallowed moments.”Tree of Life Located on the Hallway of the reception area, Temple Emanu-El’s “Tree of Life” it’s a beautiful way to remember special milestones as Bar/Bat Mitzvahs, Anniversaries, Birthdays, Graduations, pay a tribute to a dear friend or honor your children and family.Oval Plaques $1,000 Leaves $500******Hall of RemembranceStars $6,000Hexagons $4,000Yahrzeit Plaques
Located inside the Abraham Frost Sanctuary. They are lit on the week of your loved one’s yahrzeit. Yahrzeit Plaques $1,000******More Dedication OportunitiesDove of Peace Sculpture 	$1,000,000 Cultural Arts Center 	$1,000,000 Main Foyer 	$500,000 Main Entrance Jerusalem 	$500,000Steps & Promenade 	$500,000 Hall of Remembrance 	$500,000 Tree of Life Doors 	$250,000 Jerusalem Lanterns 	$250,000 
 	 Museum of Jewish History 	$125,000 Noah Stained Glass Window	$125,000 Creation Mosaic 	$100,000 Date Stained Glass Window 	$100,000 Barley Stained Glass Window 	$100,000 Wheat Stained Glass Window 	$100,000 Museum of Jewish History Theater 	$75,000 Hall of Remembrance Inglenook 	$50,000 Talit Lights Sanctuary 	$25,000Talit Lights Chapel 	$25,000 Prayer Book Lights 	$25,000 
 	 Tzedakah Sculpture 	$20,000 Yarmulke Sculpture 	$20,000 Temple's Entrance Mezuzah 	$10,000 Sanctuary's Mezuzah 	$10,000Hall of Remembrance Benches (2) 	$10,000Wall of Remembrance Stars 	$6,000 Wall of Remembrance Hexagons 	$4,000 Mezuzot 	$1,800the above found here… http://tesobe.org/dedication.htmlPicture of Church/Templehttp://www.nmajh.org/exhibitions/postcards/cards/09.htm
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Comment #78 posted by FoM on September 11, 2007 at 08:44:44 PT

We Knew That
Big Houses Are Not Green: America's McMansion Problemhttp://alternet.org/environment/61523/
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Comment #77 posted by FoM on September 10, 2007 at 20:47:30 PT

ekim
I think it just has a double meaning now. I'm sure he still is the way he always was. Farm Aid on XM Radio was good. We listened until it was over. The best part was The Allman Brothers Band I think. 
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Comment #76 posted by ekim on September 10, 2007 at 20:24:11 PT

homegrown
i hope Neil changes it back 
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Comment #75 posted by FoM on September 10, 2007 at 06:12:12 PT

For Those Who Want To Hear Neil at Farm-Aid
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/rust/message/188197
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Comment #74 posted by whig on September 09, 2007 at 22:45:49 PT

Had Enough
If a temple wants to raise money from its own members that's its business, I don't have to belong and I don't.When it goes out auctioning seats on eBay, it's a shame and a disgrace.I know that if you have a physical building you have expenses and those have to be paid for somehow.I'm trying to be understanding, and fair. What would you have us do?
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Comment #73 posted by Hope on September 09, 2007 at 22:11:49 PT

BGreen
I know exactly what you mean!
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Comment #72 posted by BGreen on September 09, 2007 at 22:02:30 PT

Good thing those front seats
Good thing those front seats aren't in a Baptist church. They couldn't give those seats away. LOLFor those that don't get the joke, for some reason, in most Baptist churches, nobody wants to sit on the front row. It's usually the last row to fill up. It may have something to do with the volume level of Baptist preachers who tend to get riled up and shout quite a bit.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #71 posted by FoM on September 09, 2007 at 15:05:45 PT

Farm Aid 2007
I don't if anyone is listening to Farm Aid but I have never heard it sound better. Gregg Allman and
The Allman Brothers Band are up next. It's all rock and roll since 4 pm when it started on the radio and maybe that's because it's in New York and it's really good.The Line Uphttp://farmaid.blogspot.com/2007/09/long-awaited-lineup.html
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Comment #70 posted by FoM on September 09, 2007 at 11:29:23 PT

Farm Aid on XM40
The live concerts starts at 4PM ET until it's over. We have 14 speakers that will be playing the concert. 9 in the living room alone! LOL! It will be a great evening and I hope that some here will check it out too. They are playing short interviews from Farm Aid already.http://www.xmradio.com/onxm/channelpage.xmc?ch=40
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Comment #69 posted by FoM on September 09, 2007 at 10:49:10 PT

Had Enough
This is what came to me.And the sign said everybody welcome, come in, kneel down and pray But when they passed around the plate at the end of it all, I didn't have a penny to pay, so I got me a pen and a paper and I made up my own little sign I said thank you Lord for thinking about me, I'm alive and doing fine http://www.fivemanelectricalband.ca/signslyrics.html
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Comment #68 posted by Had Enough on September 09, 2007 at 10:22:00 PT

They’re trying to buy the Stairway to Heaven
“At Temple Emanu-El, two seats cost $1,800 for congregation members.”They are all disgraceful. Shame on all of them.*******http://www.noolmusic.com/blogs/YouTube_Music_Videos_60s_70s_-_Led_Zeppelin_-_Stairway_To_Heaven_Live.shtml

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Comment #67 posted by whig on September 09, 2007 at 09:39:21 PT

Had Enough
The disgrace is not what people will pay, as nobody has offered a thing for his seats. The disgrace is the Rabbi.He is a shanda.
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Comment #66 posted by whig on September 09, 2007 at 09:30:28 PT

Jerry Jacobs
Why not just sell naming rights to a local corporation?
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Comment #65 posted by Had Enough on September 09, 2007 at 09:10:35 PT

‘right in front of the Rabbi!’
I know people who could use that kind of money and put it to better use than where it is going now.That is just disgraceful someone would give that much money for comfortable seats ‘right in front of the Rabbi!’ when there are people who need food and shelter.

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Comment #64 posted by FoM on September 09, 2007 at 09:00:31 PT

Had Enough
Some people will buy anything it seems. Look at how people got into paying so much money for bottled water and all it is is tap water most times I read. Bottled water costs more then oil per gallon I think. Give me my deep water well water. It's great. 
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Comment #63 posted by Had Enough on September 09, 2007 at 08:55:06 PT

Church Seats for Sale - 1.8 mil
Global News Florida synagogue offers front row seats on eBay for $1.8M 06 September 2007 A synagogue in Florida is offering two front row seats for sale on the eBay internet auction site. Temple Emanu-El in Miami Beach is offering ‘membership for life’ with the two ‘front and center’ seats. The starting price is $1.8m dollars although there were no bids within the first 24 hours. The auction is scheduled to end on 10 September. According to the listing on eBay, the package includes: Two comfortable seats ‘right in front of the Rabbi!’; Includes all Jewish holidays and all Shabbat services; Family name engraved on the seats; Two custom-made Israeli tallitot and kippot; and free parking.Temple President Jerry Jacobs said. “I don't want to use the word `gimmick,' but it's a way for us to get the community involved in what we're doing. Here you can have the two best seats in the house, and they'll be in your family forever. We chose $1.8 million to represent chai and that these seats would be yours for life”….and…At Temple Emanu-El, two seats cost $1,800 for congregation members. more…http://www.worldjewishcongress.org/news/globalnews/gn_archives/2007/09/gn_070906_florida.htmlGet a load of this stuff.I guess the more money you pay, the holier thy art.Front and center, free parking, family names engraved in the seats and all.

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Comment #62 posted by FoM on September 07, 2007 at 14:38:46 PT

Farm Aid 2007: XM Satellite Radio
I am happy about this news.XM Satellite Radio to Broadcast Farm Aid ConcertsXM Satellite Radio has announced that they will again be offering radio coverage of this year’s Farm Aid, broadcasting from Randall’s Island in New York City. This is xm’s third year in a row of broadcasting the concert.xm’s new channel “XMX” (XM2) and deep classic rock channel “Deep Tracks” (XM 40) will be on-site in Randalls Island, NY to broadcast live from Farm Aid 2007 on Sunday, September 9, featuring performances from Willie Nelson, Neil Young, John Mellencamp, Dave Matthews, among others.xm’s live coverage for Farm Aid 2007 kicks off Sunday, September 9 at 4pm ET on XM 2 and XM 40. In advance of the live broadcast, beginning Saturday xm will be airing “Farm Aid Radio,” featuring some of the best performances from past Farm Aid concerts along with interview segments and songs by the artists headlining this years’ Farm Aid. The broadcast begins Saturday, September 8 at 12 midnight ET on XM 2. http://stillisstillmoving.com/?p=2230
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Comment #61 posted by FoM on September 07, 2007 at 06:24:40 PT

Track List for Chrome Dreams II
This is the Amazon link and it looks like another good spiritual album by Neil. I can't wait to hear Ordinary People.http://tinyurl.com/2fr9oy
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Comment #60 posted by FoM on September 06, 2007 at 20:29:40 PT

whig
Glad you liked it. I really like that song. Leonard Cohen reminds me of a complicated person who has a different way of seeing things and it is refreshing. Neil Young is that way too. I'm looking forward to Chrome Dreams II. I'm really hoping for a tour like has been rumored. 
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Comment #59 posted by whig on September 06, 2007 at 20:24:15 PT

FoM
Love it. :)
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Comment #58 posted by FoM on September 06, 2007 at 12:45:50 PT

For Those Who Can Watch Youtube
I have the Best of Leonard Cohen on CD and today I wanted to hear this song called Hallelujah and maybe some here might appreciate it too.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf36v0epfmI
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Comment #57 posted by whig on September 05, 2007 at 22:27:28 PT

Had Enough
It's an entertaining movie and I love Milla Jovavich. She plays the girl in the movie and when she used to make music her label was "Sense 'o Milla productions"She's also a pretty famous actress and fashion model these days.
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Comment #56 posted by FoM on September 05, 2007 at 14:17:51 PT

Had Enough
I guess I'm not missing something! LOL!
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Comment #55 posted by Had Enough on September 05, 2007 at 13:51:42 PT

Opps 

I jumped the gun here...The last half of the video. Not so cool.I was watching this video and was distracted about half way through it.When I got back I posted it, then watched the rest.Some parts still good though.

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Comment #54 posted by Had Enough on September 05, 2007 at 13:33:15 PT

Cool Video
Stumbled across this looking for something else.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iIDx5S9mWg

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Comment #53 posted by FoM on September 01, 2007 at 11:39:46 PT

New Movie: The 11th Hour
http://wip.warnerbros.com/11thhour/
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Comment #52 posted by FoM on August 29, 2007 at 13:46:17 PT

museman
I so appreciate your comment about Neil Young. That means a lot to me. I am only sorry that I only found out he was still touring by chance in early 03. I have seen 4 concerts and I just loved them. I actually saw Greendale outside and inside in the winter and the Freedom of Speech tour two times. 
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Comment #51 posted by museman on August 29, 2007 at 13:37:16 PT

FoM
Yes, Neil might've got contracted, but he kept his soul. Mr. Young is a unique exception to the rule of 'rock star' corruption.
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Comment #50 posted by FoM on August 29, 2007 at 13:21:01 PT

museman
Ticketmaster and Clear Channel! My husband and I worked a real concert in the rain with about 10,000 people back in the 70s. Peter Frampton, J Geils Band, Black Oak Arkansas and Ambrosia are groups I remember from that day. Now that was a concert.PS: Very little alcohol was there but plenty of Pot and LSD. We had a good doctor there to help people who went off the deep end and needed help. It was wonderful. Now well I love Neil so I put up with it! LOL!
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Comment #49 posted by museman on August 29, 2007 at 13:13:20 PT

Death of Music
"“American Pie” is a song by Don McLean from the early 1970s. Through its poetry it tells a story of America going down the tubes. How did Don know to prophesize these things through an allusion to fall out shelters and events like a dry levee?"That's an easy question to answer;"The Hippies Had It Right All Along."But don't stop with an abstractly obscure song by Don McLean as representative of 'prophecy' in music.The day the music died was the day that the music industry laid on the bucks to the musical leaders of the revolution, who almost all opened bank accounts and left their grass roots behind easily and quickly.The day the music died was the same day that the term 'yuppie' was coined.The day the music died was the day that xtian idiots burned beatles records in the streets, and began to preach John, Paul, George, and Ringo as modern demons instead of the prophets that they were.The day the music died was when people believed that 'music production' was the only true source of it, and the 'superstar' concept was born.The day the music died was when the guitar player on the street corner was first ignored by the one with a studio contract.The day the music died I was jammin' in the park, and when I opened my eyes, the whole audience had gone to ticketmaster.The music never died, it has just been ignored because it doesn't look hollywoood enough.
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Comment #48 posted by FoM on August 29, 2007 at 09:25:18 PT

The Day The Music Died 
By Ken Driessen, HaywardWednesday, August 29th, 2007 
Editor:“American Pie” is a song by Don McLean from the early 1970s. Through its poetry it tells a story of America going down the tubes. How did Don know to prophesize these things through an allusion to fall out shelters and events like a dry levee?The song also is about God and the Bible. To that note how did the writers of the Bible know that a nation would rise up militarily and George W. Bush would be in control of enough nuclear weapons to be able to kill every man, woman and child on earth four times over? The Bible predicts that mankind will destroy ourselves and there will be some sort of final day, an end to life.The apocalypse will not be George W. Bush’s fault because he has proven as a chicken hawk war profiteer he has no faults. It is well documented that people around Bush planned the Iraq war long before he became the “war president.”Before their propaganda leads you to believe we now should attack Iran, familiarize yourself with the Project for a New American Century. They desired a “cataclysmic catalyzing event” like Pearl Harbor. These criminals are destroying our nation’s infrastructure with their lack of attention to anything but war and oil profits.You know the rest: torture of enemy combatants; our loss of civil liberties; selling weapons to Saudi Arabia (where the majority of the 9/11 hijackers came from); signing statements to avoid law — no different than anything a dictator like Hitler would get away with. The guilt of the Bushmen is beyond question, yet his accomplices in Congress refuse to hold him accountable through articles of impeachment. 
 
On the other hand, I believed that I had a right to control my mind and body and I called that liberty; for this I am being held accountable.Just like George W. Bush and over 94 million Americans, who according to U.S. government statistics tried marijuana at least once in their lives, I ignored the “law” and exercised my constitutional, inherent right to life, liberty and property.This does not mean I believe children should use marijuana. If marijuana was controlled similarly to alcohol and tobacco, it could be taxed and some of the monies could go to educating our children about drugs instead of lying to them and incarcerating their parents for choosing something natural over the lethal drugs sold by government backed pharmaceutical corporations.Although I will continue to believe that life is a miracle and try to love life in spite of my hardships; I will never forget Aug. 9, 2007. On that day I discovered beyond any reasonable doubt that the U.S. constitution is void. For me that was the day the music died. Copyright: 2007 MultiMedia Interactivehttp://haywardwis.com/record/index.php?section_id=37&story_id=234154
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Comment #47 posted by whig on August 27, 2007 at 20:54:09 PT

Alberto Gonzales leaving...
The acting Attorney General will be Paul Clement.This is an article you might find interesting.http://www.aclu.org/drugpolicy/gen/10903prs20050126.htmlExcerpt:WASHINGTON - The U.S. Department of Justice has notified Congress that it will not defend a law prohibiting the display of marijuana policy reform ads in public transit systems. The controversial statute was recently ruled unconstitutional by a federal district court. The Solicitor General Paul Clement stated in a letter to Congress that, "the government does not have a viable argument to advance in the statute's defense and will not appeal the district court's decision." Today is Congress' last day to respond to the federal appeals court in the D.C. Circuit."The Justice Department finally met a law so unconstitutional that it could not find any way to defend it," said Graham Boyd, Director of the ACLU Drug Law Reform Project. "Congress should stop trying to silence public discussion of the cruel and expensive failures of current marijuana laws." 
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Comment #46 posted by FoM on August 27, 2007 at 07:39:00 PT

Had Enough
I am so bubbly inside over this new tour. I can't wait! Do you know that I love Neil Young. LOL!
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Comment #45 posted by Had Enough on August 27, 2007 at 07:25:52 PT

Ticketmaster Reveals Info...
About Neil Young’s Fall TourLess than a week after Ticketmaster spilled the beans about Bruce Springsteen & The E Street Band’s forthcoming tour, it looks like they prematurely announced a date for Neil Young’s fall tour, too. According to this page, Neil Young and Crazy Horse will play at the Keller Auditorium in Portland, Oregon, on October 22nd. Tickets go on sale Saturday, September 8th. Only one-third of Crazy Horse (drummer Ralph Molina) plays on the forthcoming Chrome Dreams II, but it looks like they’ll be the backing band on the tour. Young hasn’t toured solo since the 2003-04 Greendale tour.http://www.rollingstone.com/rockdaily/index.php/2007/08/24/ticketmaster-reveals-info-about-neil-youngs-fall-tour/?utm_source=daily-newsletter&utm_medium=email

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Comment #44 posted by FoM on August 26, 2007 at 07:02:38 PT

CSNY's Freedom of Speech Tour
I have just redid the Toronto Concert from last summer and it plays in surround sound and I feel like I am back at the concert last summer. I found this is the best way to get my eyes looking in the right direction. I hope everyone has a great day. I am looking forward to the new tour. 
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Comment #43 posted by FoM on August 24, 2007 at 21:09:46 PT

whig
Are we better then any other country? I don't think so. We should be treated the same.
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Comment #42 posted by whig on August 24, 2007 at 21:07:56 PT

FoM
On the other hand, if we don't punish our war criminals or provide some remedy, what should other nations do with us?
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Comment #41 posted by FoM on August 24, 2007 at 21:06:17 PT

whig
That sounds like a good and sensible solution. 
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Comment #40 posted by whig on August 24, 2007 at 21:04:20 PT

FoM
I think that if one nation attacks another there should be an international trial held. We need to evolve mechanisms like what we have for when one person attacks another, even though nations are much larger we can build a legal frameworks which is appropriate to try our own war criminals and those of other countries when they commit crimes against humanity.
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Comment #39 posted by FoM on August 24, 2007 at 20:55:22 PT

whig
Yes I know what she is saying. My concern over the Clintons is I don't trust them. I can't help it I just don't. Mrs. Clinton was a Republican that became a Democrat. She is more a Republican then a Democrat. That is worrisome to me.
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Comment #38 posted by whig on August 24, 2007 at 20:45:00 PT

FoM
I think Hillary Clinton's time is up. She is saying that the Republicans would benefit from another terrorist attack. Many people have given up on her now.
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Comment #37 posted by FoM on August 24, 2007 at 20:08:57 PT

whig
I agree. Reacting fast isn't good in anything we do much less a war situation. 
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Comment #36 posted by FoM on August 24, 2007 at 20:05:19 PT

Hope
I really don't understand the taste in music that seems to tag along with Republicans. I don't know if Neil will do anything for the Democrat that wins the nomination next year but he might. If it's Obama I bet he will. 
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Comment #35 posted by whig on August 24, 2007 at 20:01:15 PT

FoM #31
I don't like hypothetical cases like that because it isn't something that can be analyzed in abstract without context, what are the causes of the attack, what was the nature of the attack, could it have been prevented and if so why was it not? It would be very important not to make an impulsive response before we knew the facts because it could have been a false flag operation, for instance.
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Comment #34 posted by Hope on August 24, 2007 at 19:48:22 PT

The "Wildman"
has made public appearances, I believe, with our Governor, here in Texas, Rick Perry. He's a Bush backer, there's no doubt. Whether he's been invited to the White House or not, I don't know either.Anybody that associates with him should be ashamed... and probably, are. I would imagine that politicians, and the Wall Street Journal, which, as you know, recently published and op-ed or something written by Nugent, and any other right wingers are all trying to figure out a way to back pedal from their associations with him. They should be.
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Comment #33 posted by FoM on August 24, 2007 at 19:24:52 PT

Hope
Thank you. You're right it could stir someone up to cause harm. We as human beings have a responsibility with what we say. We don't know how what we say can create good or bad. I was really surprised that he did concerts for Bush and I think he was at the White House too. I could be wrong on the White House. Musicians have people who follow them and listen to what they believe. What we say can cause harm.
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Comment #32 posted by Hope on August 24, 2007 at 19:18:08 PT

If there is anyone in the NRA 
that has any sense at all, they will kick Ted Nugent out and disassociate themselves from him as far as possible. I have been a member myself. I'm not now. Having him on their board of directors adds an ungodly stench to what, I have always believed, is a worthwhile, rights protecting organization, that is absolutely beyond bearing for anyone with with even the slightest amount of integrity. Nugent is good reason to NOT be a member of the NRA and they better realize that, sooner, rather than later.He is doing so much for the anti-gun groups out there. All they have to say is, "Look at Ted Nugent". If anyone in the Republican party had any sense they would do the same. To allow Nugent to be a spokesman for any cause, other than sheer lunacy, is a huge mistake.He is so repulsive and disgusting. It seems obvious that he has broken some serious laws against threatening certain people. It seems to me that the Feds have a serious obligation to call on Nugent and ask some serious questions and bring charges. The law says "threaten"... and he certainly has.But, I'm guessing they're too busy busting medical marijuana people to bother with a vile piece of work like Nugent.Anybody else would already be in jail for voicing the threats he made.I think "Joking" was a poor choice of words to use in describing his public tirade. Joking? What was the joke? I don't get it. If the things he said weren't threats, and they were, at the very least, they were attempts to provoke the unstable into committing acts of violence.
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Comment #31 posted by FoM on August 24, 2007 at 16:42:51 PT

whig
Let me ask you this. If a country, not a renegade like Bin Laden, attacked one or more of our cities what should we do then? It would be hard to attack us but if it did happen then what? 
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Comment #30 posted by whig on August 24, 2007 at 16:05:33 PT

FoM
There is no acceptable reason to go to war in this nuclear age. None.
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Comment #29 posted by FoM on August 24, 2007 at 15:55:30 PT

whig
I am not for or against Hillary because she is a woman. I don't think she would do a bad job. She's tough and might turn out ok. As far as Obama and war he believes in talking to our enemies. That's how wars stop by talking to our enemy but he wants to talk before war not to end a war. He would be strong if needed but he would weigh his reasons to go to war I think. He thinks before he acts and that's wise.
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Comment #28 posted by whig on August 24, 2007 at 15:42:52 PT

FoM
I understand what you are saying but there are people who support Hillary Clinton because they want a woman to be president too. I won't support any candidate based on their physical characteristics. I do think that Barack Obama is a good man but I don't know how much he is against war and that is still a concern I have.
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Comment #27 posted by FoM on August 24, 2007 at 14:53:46 PT

whig
I believe that there is still ill will towards black people in this day and age. One of the reasons that it would be good if Obama won is because no black person has ever been a President and that would help move us as a mixed culture of people in the right direction. Gays, Blacks, Jews, Mexicans and Pot Smokers are people. It's time we get away from this Waspy type thinking. 
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Comment #26 posted by whig on August 24, 2007 at 14:43:32 PT

FoM
There's still a large subset of the American population that is avowedly racist at its core. We need to address this.
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Comment #25 posted by FoM on August 24, 2007 at 14:35:17 PT

whig
I know they are politicians. I just don't like how mean people like Nugent and O'Reilly are. Neil sang Let's Impeach The President but he didn't say anything except about Bush's policy. There is a line when crossed over that bothers me and what Nugent said crossed that line.
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Comment #24 posted by whig on August 24, 2007 at 14:12:12 PT

FoM
We have some bad'uns in the Democratic party too.
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Comment #23 posted by FoM on August 24, 2007 at 12:59:18 PT

Whig
I'm just glad they are not Democrats. That would really bother me.
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Comment #22 posted by whig on August 24, 2007 at 12:40:41 PT

FoM
Ted Nugent is a lot of hot air and bluster, he wouldn't actually do anything but he likes to pretend he's a tough guy by using that kind of language. Bill O'Reilly too.
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Comment #21 posted by FoM on August 24, 2007 at 12:26:44 PT

Ted Nugent is a Reason Why Republicans Scare Me
In Obscenity-Laced Tirade, Ted Nugent Jokes of Killing Obama, Calls Clinton a 'Bitch' http://rawstory.com/news/2007/In_obscenitylaced_tirade_Ted_Nugent_jokes_0824.html
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Comment #20 posted by FoM on August 23, 2007 at 13:37:36 PT

About Neil Young's New CD
Excerpt: On the music itself, Young says, "Some early listeners have said that this album is positive and spiritual. I like to think it focuses on the human condition. Like many of my recordings, this one draws on earlier material here and there. I used to do that a lot back in the day. Some songs, like 'Ordinary People,' need to wait for the right time. I think now is the right time for that song and it lives well with the new songs I have written in the past few months. I had a blast making this music."http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/rust/message/187144
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Comment #19 posted by FoM on August 23, 2007 at 10:54:57 PT

Had Enough
Thanks! I will have to keep my remote close to jump back and forth to see both Stephen Stills and Steve Earle.
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Comment #18 posted by Had Enough on August 23, 2007 at 10:35:06 PT

Rolling Stone Newsletter
TODAY'S ROCK ON TV (ALL TIMES EST) 
 NBC 11:35pm - The Tonight Show with Jay Leno: STEPHEN STILLS 12:35am - Late Night with Conan O'Brien: THE ACADEMY IS...1:35am - Last Call with Carson Daly: LILY ALLEN
 CBS 11:35pm - The Late Show with David Letterman: STEVE EARLE 12:35am - The Late Late Show with Craig Ferguson: THE CLIKS

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Comment #17 posted by FoM on August 23, 2007 at 07:20:48 PT

Had Enough 
They advertise HughesNet as unbound. Now that is quite a stretch. I sure have learned patience using HughesNet. I hope that people who wrote to the Attorney General get them to change their policy or stop selling more of the product.
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Comment #16 posted by Had Enough on August 23, 2007 at 06:28:15 PT

Toker
The Thread: I knew you’d’ figure it out cool. It came along while you were unplugged. HugesNet has FoM bound and gagged too.Hot Rods, I love them. One day I would like to build a ZZ-Top car similar to the Eliminator. I just love the way the radiator grille sits in the front tilted back about 2 inches at the top and how it tapers to a point on the bottom and sweeps forward. That and the chopped rooflines do it for me. I’d use a small block Ford with an automatic for power.That motor you mentioned was the original 351 Cleveland motor. It developed into the 351/400 modified.  It’s not the same as the 351 small block.I had a service truck I had to drive that had one of those motors in it. It did the job well with very little problems. It was built by someone else and had my doubts about it when I got it, but it turned out great.I’ve had and or built almost but not all versions of the modern Ford V-8 (late 60’s on up) including a big block 460, still have that one. A friend of mine was a machinist at a local automotive machine shop. After hours we would go down there and build that 460. No one else was there and we had the run of the shop. We put heads on it from a 4