I would say that Jimi--a guy who wouldn't even play with Morrison when asked--would probably just look at you and walk away. Jim might be a little more communicative--he'd spit in your face. And Janis? Man, I'm sure she'd slap you for what you are. Don't misuse icons that meant a lot to many generations, including mine.

HOWEVER, apparently China has a cannabis culture that's still living. Probably because of the 1.3 billion population, it's impossible to police everyone there. They also have hashish, probably from Afghanistan. No idea if MJ is grown there at all; I suspect that most of it comes from Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, Nepal and Kazakhstan--where hemp and cannabis grow wild.

But as far as I can tell, the laws are much more intractable than in the West--strange how even our situation can seem enviable to some. These are poor countries; governmentally, being modern and having modern values and laws is everything to a politician or intellectual, devoted or corrupt. One President in Azerbaijan termed drugs "weapons of mass destruction", for example. Never traveled to any of these countries to smoke anything, so you can tell I'm an e-junkie, too.

Problem is, these are poor countries, and the politicians either will do anything to avoid embarrassment or who are dictators squeezing the people for everything they've got. In reality, penalties for pot are much more severe in these countries. The UN put out a plan to "eradicate all drugs" by 2008. Loosely interpreted, the West can choose to ignore or modify such ideas (even Bush never officially set such a target into his policy statements). The non-Western countries have interpreted it literally, and it's a shame. Morocco, for example, is going through a big eradication program, much to the dismay of farmers who depend on cannabis as the only lucrative cash crop. Oh, but Morocco's fairly liberal compared to the Arabian Peninsula countries; a drugs specialist who was in Afghanistan trying to encourage alternative crops was caught in United Arab Emirates with .0017 grams of hash. Nothing mattered; sent to jail for 4 years. And remember Schapelle Corby--20 years for some pot that was planted on her in Indonesia.

I guess it's good that American, British, and Dutch botanists got hold of the Afghani, Indian, Thai, and Mexican pot seeds decades before these wipe-out campaigns started. At least the strains will survive.

What a waste.

Here's a piece that's over a year old but right on the money...

"The DEA should make me an honorary officer."

And what are those qualifications again?

"I flushed more dope and cocaine down backstage toilets than I care to remember." (No whiskey bottles?)

Destroying evidence, good.....

"I was forced to fire band members and business associates due to mindless, dangerous, illegal drug use." (And calling his music "soulless rock", no doubt.)

Punishment instead of treatment, we like that...

"In utter frustration I was even forced to punch my way through violent dopers on occasion." (Ummmmm...what?)

Especially the closer.

He is a national spokesman for the DARE program.

That is one of the reasons I like Kucinich so much. He spells out how we could accomplish so much more with a policy of peace than we ever could with wars.

All those great vibrations going out. (And I bet no one there is thinking about Ted Nugent 8^)

I read once where there was a convention of TMer's (Transcendental Meditation) in Atlanta. They meditated on peaceful spirit for the city, and it was reported that weekend had the lowest crime rate in decades!

All those great vibrations going out. (And I bet no one there is thinking about Ted Nugent 8^)

I read once where there was a convention of TMer's (Transcendental Meditation) in Atlanta. They meditated on peaceful spirit for the city, and it was reported that weekend had the lowest crime rate in decades!

Ted Nugent’s family ‘values’:

“Nugent--a Draft Dodger--divorced his wife, used his rock star money to gain sole custody of the kids, lived with a teen groupie who raised the kids (he was too busy touring), cheated on his second wife, Shemane, and had a kid outside of wedlock with Karen Gutowski of New Hampshire, with whom he fought against paying child support for years.” Debbie schlussel Ted Nugent Ordered To Pay Child Support (Had Affair) http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1428463/posts

Ted on drugs:

"I smoked 50 joints in the '60s and snorted two lines of coke once in Detroit." - People Weekly , Feb. 28, 1977

Ted ON MILITARY SERVICE:

He claims that 30 days before his draft board physical, he stopped all forms of personal hygiene. The last 10 days, he ingested nothing but Vienna sausages and Pepsi; and a week before his physical, he stopped using bathrooms altogether, virtually living inside pants caked with his own excrement, stained by his urine. That spectacle won Nugent a deferment, he says. "... but if I would have gone over there, I'd have been killed, or I'd have killed, or I'd killed all the hippies in the foxholes...I would have killed everybody." - Detroit Free Press Magazine , July 15, 1990

Ted on Underage Girls : (no pun intended, well maybe a LITTLE)

'Uncle Ted' also had a well-known predilection for underage girls, even going so far as becoming the legal guardian to a 17 year old Hawaiian girl in 1978, so he could continue to 'date' her with impunity. http://www.michiganliberal.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=6159

Courtney Love made the shocking allegation that one of the first times she had oral sex was with Ted Nugent, she was 12-years-old - which would have made Nugent approximately 28 years old at the time. http://www.debbieschlussel.com/

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In a 1992 radio interview, Nugent referred to Heidi Prescott of the Fund for Animals as a "worthless whore" and a "shallow slut," asking "who needs to club a seal, when you can club Heidi?" and was ordered by a court to pay $75,000.

He is a national spokesman for the DARE program.

I join with my brothers and sisters!

To me, one of the greatest things about the sixties and seventies was the tolerance and celebration of diversity. Whatever anyone wanted to do was just fine with everyone, as long as they didn't harm others or put them down. That was the closest we have come to freedom in my lifetime.

Bush lied when he said we were attacked on 911 because "they hate our freedom." What's really true is that people like Bush and Nugent attack us because they hate our freedom.

You take a right, take 'er out, Ya get in bed an' drop down, Ya get a butt dropped up.

Kinda weakens any "seriousness." Kinda also slates this guy as a criminal sort of wanker.

Why doesn't he get up on stage and share his rants with all his fans! I doubt there's a single one who is clean and sober. I"m sure they'd love being called dirty scum bags who ruined the country. I'm sure they'd continue to pony up $60 to see some has-been talentless loser.

Ted Nugent, as long as I could remember, was a very poorly accomplished guitarist, and his songs are thoroughly meaningless porno drivel. This is a guy that backed the NRA even at the time of Littleton. The only way a "hippie" inspired by the "Summer of Drugs" could "destroy" his/her life is by buying one of Nuge's shitty records. Parenthetically stupid, offensive, insidiously chauvinistic.

Nuge is comin' to town, ladies. Better pull yor panties up tight, cos' he wants to sodomize you.

Here is a picture of our “Guitar Hero”

Looks simalar to Charlie Manson, cousins maybe...

I would like to add…

Ted Nugent gives people “Cat Scratch Fever”, who needs it!!!

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fight_4_freedom: Cool, job well done.

Yes, Ted Nugent was in the Amboy Dukes. He took control over the whole band.

Back in the very late 60’s early 70’s I was in my first blues band. The guitar player was about 17 years older than I, and he was teaching me how to feel, experience and make the blues sound good on a Fender Jazz Bass. He was in the Amboy Dukes before Ted Nugent showed up.

He told me that when Ted came along, the whole band changed. Everything had to be centered on Ted; they even had to change the name to Ted Nugent and the Amboy Dukes.

We talked more about it and he told us (the rest of our band) that he was so arrogant and hard to be around he just up and quit. He said the original idea of the band was scrapped, and was changed over to what ever Ted insisted on. No discussion about anything, just whatever Ted wanted period. He was even dictating the style of guitar playing he ‘insisted’ this guy to play. He was a blues player, and a good one at that, and really taught us how you do the blues. I cannot picture this guy cow towing to an arrogant ego driven, control-freaking maniac, with a 100 watt Marshall cranked to 10 with multiple gismo boxes plugged in between the guitar and amp, and screaming into a microphone.

No other input even considered by Ted. Kinda like, this is my party, do it my way, or leave, and that is what that guitar player did.

By Jack Ryan

July 4, 2007

Al Gore's son, Albert Gore III, has been arrested. Al Gore III was pulled over for speeding Wednesday morning when police discovered drugs in his car.

Al Gore III was pulled over for doing 100 mph when police discovered illegal drugs and several prescription drugs in the vehicle.

Police reportedly found Marijuana, Xanax, Vicodin, Valium, and Adderal in the car.

Al Gore III had a similar run-in with officials back in 2003 when he was sent to rehab after police spotted him driving in freezing cold weather with his sunroof down. Police stopped him and found Marijuana in the car.

Copyright: 2007 by Post Chronicle Corp.

Give me the old fart, gun-toting, drunken Dick Cheney, shooting at lawyers any day.

We should celebrate him for being clean and sober? Puh-leeze. This is a man who likes to shoot anything and everything that moves, and in all the mention of his touring, he never once mentioned all the underage girls he slept with and impregnated. I'm sure that didn't contribute AT ALL to our social ills. And singing about violence towards women (Stranglehold?), nah no problem there.

And so what if San Francisco wanted to give shopping carts to the homeless? What are we supposed to do, turn them loose in the woods and shoot 'em?

The egomaniac Ted believes everybody loves his music. What a maroon. He is clueless. Witless, even.

Never had one of his albums and never will.

Big Pharma wants drugs for all all year round. Drugs that kill all of the time.

When Ted is dried up and old, he'll be drooling big pharma drugs night and day. I won't generate any sympathy for him.

FoM, you do realize how important this web site is. It is better than ever.

It is, by far and away, one of the best. It may have waned some, but it is still alive and kicking. You deserve all of the credit. Kudos

Slowly but surely wins the race.

Why is it that we are constantly bombarded with status reports as to the wealth of "America's" 30 largest corporations (DJIA) or 500 largest (SP500) (begging us to give them money to exploit with the gamble that we could become fat cats as well) but never hear about the vast majority left nibbling at the edges of the corporate pie? Profit above ALL ELSE is the motto of the corporation, and no other interest will be tolerated except to the extent it serves the overarching objective of accumulating wealth in the ceaseless pursuit of greed.