Keeping Ahead of The Bladder Cops

Keeping Ahead of The Bladder Cops
Posted by FoM on March 09, 2001 at 14:50:25 PT
By Jim Sanders, Scripps-McClatchy Western Service
Source: Knoxville News-Sentinel
Here's a little-known fact about the drug tests given to thousands of truckers, youth counselors, peace officers, bus drivers and other California professionals as a condition of getting or keeping their jobs: Cheating isn't illegal, officials say. If you're caught, you won't be prosecuted.And there's a wide variety of products to help you cheat - from tablets to capsules to drinks - that come with money-back promises and eye-catching advertisements:
"Pass Any Drug Test - Guaranteed.""Never Worry About a Drug Test Again."One manufacturer says its formula is "constantly changed to keep ahead of the bladder cops."The products carry names like Quick Fix or Clear Choice or The Urinator, the latter a small electronic module to maintain correct testing temperatures for water that mixes with concentrated, store-bought urine to produce a toxin-free sample.California Assemblyman George Runner, R-Lancaster, sees such products as a loophole and a way for opportunists to make money by mocking a system designed to enhance public safety.Runner has proposed legislation, Assembly Bill 154, to outlaw the manufacture, sale or advertising of products designed to alter drug tests."Right now, it's flaunted," he said of cheating. "When somebody advertises that they'll help you fool a drug test, it strikes at the core of what public and private employers are trying to accomplish."But critics say Runner's approach is filled with enforcement problems, including:- The California legislation would not affect national Internet sales, so drug cheaters could simply turn from stores to computers.- Many substances used to cheat drug tests also have legitimate uses as herbs, bleaches or shampoos, for example.- The bill targets only the makers and sellers of test-cheating products, not the users, so it would not reduce demand and could spawn a black market."My first response was to laugh," said Dr. Kent Holtorf, a Southern California physician and outspoken opponent of drug-testing programs. "We keep piling on to the drug war by making more and more laws that aren't enforceable."Runner's legislation is a simplistic solution to a complex problem, he said."Manufacturers would just say that their product is meant to prevent a false positive test for hempseed oil," he said. "Hemp seeds are legal but they have a small amount of THC (a substance found in marijuana). So test results can be indistinguishable."The manager of one Sacramento-area smoke shop, which sells a toxin-flushing product that vows to help users "test pure," said not every buyer is a drug user trying to evade detection."Some people take these things regularly just to cleanse their systems," said the manager, who identified himself only as Jim. "It has nothing to do with drug testing."In cases where a test-cheating product also has legitimate uses, Runner said, his bill would limit how it could be marketed."They'd have to advertise for that legitimate function," he said.But critics say free-speech rights are violated when restrictions are placed on how legal products can be marketed.Runner concedes his legislation would not eliminate cheating."Will there be people who get around it? Sure," Runner said."But what we're saying is that this state feels (test integrity) is an important issue," he said. "A vote against this bill is a statement that it's OK to sell products in California that help you cheat on drug tests."Currently, many employers treat an altered drug test as they do a positive test: Applicants typically are disqualified. Existing employees can face sanctions ranging from drug treatment to firing.Cheaters are not subject to arrest, however, unless their actions violate probation or parole conditions stemming from a previous crime.Runner said he has not ruled out amending his bill to include users of test-cheating substances, but such a clause could increase the burden and cost to local police agencies, he said.Quest Diagnostics, a leading provider of drug-test services, detects about 360,000 adulterated tests each year, roughly one of every 100 exams it handles nationwide, records show.Experts say extensive sample-testing procedures can reduce test cheating but not eliminate it.Joe Crespillo, 20, was scouring a Sacramento smoke shop last week for a product to flush marijuana from his system. He's preparing for a military drug test."I've been drinking vinegar and taking cayenne peppers," he said. "I hear that helps."Crespillo said he quit smoking marijuana three weeks ago."If people choose to use drugs, that's their business," he said.Critics say the real issue should be drug-testing itself, which they claim is unreliable, unnecessary, invades privacy, increases workplace tensions, and can produce false-positive tests that jeopardize jobs and ruin lives.Eliminating drug testing, they say, would kill the market for maskers."We're harming too many people for no legitimate purpose," Holtorf said. "Drugs are bad. But is drug testing good?"Supporters of drug testing say the process is a necessary, and effective, response to studies showing that drug users cost U.S. businesses billions of dollars annually in lost productivity and health-care costs.Contact Jim Sanders of the Sacramento Bee in California at: Knoxville News-Sentinel (TN) Jim Sanders, Scripps-McClatchy Western ServicePublished: March 09, 2001Address: PO Box 59038, Knoxville, TN 37950-9038 Copyright: 2001 The Knoxville News-Sentinel Co. Contact: letters Website: Forum: CannabisNews Drug Testing Archives
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Comment #12 posted by Jess on September 04, 2001 at 14:50:54 PT:
i need to pass a drug test in 24 hrs.!! Help
i need to pass a drug test in 24 hours, but i smoked today(just a few hits, and a few last night) I didn't even get high, but before that i didn't smoke for 2 weeks, do i have any hope?????? Please write soon!!!!!!!!!
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Comment #11 posted by Nunya on August 08, 2001 at 11:22:03 PT:
Drug Test for Marijuana
I am not a reg smoker. I smoked approx. 1/2 a joint Sat and now Im going to be tested at work. I have serached the internet for info on how long it stays in the system and get diferent answers. Anyone know? 
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Comment #10 posted by stoney the pooh on August 06, 2001 at 21:46:18 PT
dt's or drug tests
I pee for pleasure not employment!!!!!!!!!!
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Comment #9 posted by rob on April 30, 2001 at 00:02:30 PT:
ive tried them all
and i bieleve nothing works if your future employer or your probation officer dont like your looks then you will have a dirty test clean OR NOT CLEAN ITJUST DOESNT MATTER!!!
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Comment #8 posted by sfsdfsdfsdaf on March 16, 2001 at 06:02:41 PT
Passing urine test without quackery and pseudo 
Pseudo science and quackery are prevalent. However you can beat all tests if you read the book "Ur-in Trouble ". I see a lot of testimonials on this website and don't have time to look for the truth in this website so here's a bit of advice if you don't either, read the scientifically proven methods of evading the drug testing.
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Comment #7 posted by NiftySplifty on March 10, 2001 at 10:53:35 PT
Seriously, do some jogging.
Drinking water won't help. Golden Seal won't help. There are as many ways to try to detect cheating as there are ways to cheat. Aerobic exercise will help get the evidence out of your fat reserves. Run for at least twenty minutes every day (or as often as you can safely) at 65-75% maximum heart rate (if you are in the kind of shape that will allow it, 'cause you don't want to over-do it). After that point is when the body starts using up fat reserves. Stop excercising a couple of days ahead of the test.Obviously, stop smoking ASAP. Then start again after you get the job (ASAP as well).Nifty...
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Comment #6 posted by J.R. Bob Dobbs on March 10, 2001 at 07:29:30 PT
Run, Mr. Runner. Run far away.
>>California Assemblyman George Runner, R-Lancaster, sees such products as a loophole and a way for opportunists to make [freedom] by mocking a system designed to enhance [the police state].  Goldenseal is an herb that can be found at many health stores. It's good for flushing toxins out of your system. Drink lots of water, that always helps. And learn in advance what kind of test you'll be given - if it's the more expensive hair-test, then you'll test positive for longer that with a urinalysis. There are hair-test shampoos, but I can't vouch for their effectiveness.   But why would you want to work for someone who wants to sniff your wee-wee anyway??
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Comment #5 posted by curendero on March 10, 2001 at 07:03:04 PT
do they really work?
 Do these products really work? I'm a daily smoker for the last 7 years...k' now I have the chance at a killer job but need to pass a drug test first. Am I going to get satisfaction from one of these products or am I wasting my money. Is the best way to pass the test to abstain for a period of time, and how long for a person like me? I have heard that for daily smokers it can take up to 6 months to get out of your system. And vinegar and peppers? What's that all about?!
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Comment #4 posted by topaztic on March 10, 2001 at 00:21:39 PT
and another thing.....
if drug testing is to reduce the risks to the employer, of lost productivity, etc. logically wouldn't a drug abuser(110 billion) be statistically a better employee in terms of costs than a smoker (165 billion) or a drinker (185 billion)?common sense seems to indicate....
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Comment #3 posted by topaztic on March 09, 2001 at 18:36:36 PT
What studies?
"Supporters of drug testing say the process is a necessary, and effective, response to studies showing that drug users cost U.S. businesses billions of dollars annually in lost productivity and health-care costs" I would like to see those studies and compare the loss associated with marijuana compared to other illegal substances as well as "legal drugs" such as cigarettes, prescription drugs and alcohol.THEN I would like to see a comparison between those costs and the cost of enforcement and testing, as well as an indicator of what gains have been recouped by these efforts in terms of productivity increase and reduction of medical costs. Bottom line it for me and maybe you could convince me that the drug war is not a tremendous drain upon our economy and society. until then i remain prolegalization 
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Comment #2 posted by NiftySplifty on March 09, 2001 at 18:16:06 PT
Just forget to turn it off!
I think I would have been proud, had I done it properly. Obviously, I meant:Just Do It before your test.Aah, that's better.N...
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Comment #1 posted by NiftySplifty on March 09, 2001 at 18:13:36 PT
Next they'll outlaw jogging.
This is a rather effective (and healthy!) way of getting stored evidence out of your fat! Just do it before your test. Wait! I should have said:Just Do It before your test. Nike would be so proud!Nifty...
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