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Researchers Got People Drunk or High
Posted by CN Staff on July 20, 2016 at 15:16:50 PT
By Christopher Ingraham
Source: Washington Post
USA -- Public health researchers generally agree that on balance, marijuana is a less harmful drug than alcohol. Booze, for instance, is more addictive than pot, and from a chemical standpoint, it's far more toxic — and hence lethal — than marijuana.Alcohol isn't just more harmful to individuals than marijuana is; it's more harmful to society, too. Drunken driving is a big factor in this — studies generally show that alcohol impairs driving ability much more than just about any other drug does. Alcohol also makes people aggressive, and is a factor in roughly 40 percent of violent crimes committed today.
What about a link between marijuana use and aggression? Most pot smokers will tell you that marijuana helps them relax. The popular stereotype of a heavy marijuana user is the guy stoned out of his mind on the couch, eating Funyuns and watching cartoons.But surprisingly, research on the link between marijuana and aggression has been mixed. Marijuana seems to make most people relaxed, but it can also cause anxiety and paranoia, conditions which can occasionally manifest themselves in violent ways. There are occasional reports out of Colorado of marijuana users causing harm to themselves or to others.So a recent study from the Netherlands, published in the journal Psychopharmacology, attempts to put this question to bed using the gold standard of scientific research: a random controlled trial. They recruited a group of 20 heavy alcohol users (three-plus drinks a day for men, two-plus for women), 21 heavy marijuana users who smoked at least three times a week, and 20 controls who didn't use either drug heavily at all.They then got the alcohol users drunk until their BAC measured 0.08, the standard threshold for impairment. They got the marijuana users high, by dosing them with 300 micrograms of THC per kilogram of bodyweight delivered via a vaporizer. The control group didn't get to do any of this fun stuff, because they were controls.Then they made all three groups complete a number of tests designed to get people riled up. The first, known as the "single category implicit association test," had people match positive and negative words to photos depicting aggressive and violent behavior — punching, kicking, etc. In the second test, respondents played a computer game in which they were told they could win money by pressing buttons. They were pitted against an adversary who could undermine the players by taking money from them. The players were unaware that the "adversary" was actually controlled by the computer.The researchers measured aggression, before and after the respondents took the test, by asking them how aggressive they felt on a 100-point scale. For good measure, they had the marijuana and alcohol users go through the whole thing again one week later, this time without getting high or drunk, as a kind of separate control.They found, first of all, that "alcohol intoxication increased subjective aggression in the alcohol group." The alcohol users, in other words, acted more aggressive when they were drunk than they did when they were sober. By contrast, the smokers became less aggressive when they were high.These findings held through both the self-assessments — alcohol users rated themselves as more aggressive when drunk — and through the responses to the tests: The drinkers tried harder to undermine their computer opponents when they were drunk. But the smokers actually acted less aggressive toward their computer opponents when they were high."The results in the present study support the hypothesis that acute alcohol intoxication increases feelings of aggression and that acute cannabis intoxication reduces feelings of aggression," the researchers conclude.This is in line with other research. A study in 2014, for instance, found that marijuana use among couples was linked to lower rates of domestic violence. In a fun study from the 1980s, researchers gave undergraduates varying doses of marijuana and then asked them to administer electric shocks to people in another room. The more stoned the undergrads were, the less interested they were in zapping other people.It's true that as with any drug, marijuana can have unpredictable effects in some people. But this study strongly suggests that those unpredictable consequences — pot-crazed men jumping off ledges or shooting themselves — are tragic outliers. Those stories grab headlines because they're exceptional, not because they're common.Christopher Ingraham writes about politics, drug policy and all things data. He previously worked at the Brookings Institution and the Pew Research Center.Source: Washington Post (DC)Author:  Christopher Ingraham Published: July 20, 2016Copyright: 2016 Washington Post CompanyContact: letters Website: URL: -- Cannabis Archives 
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Comment #10 posted by Sam Adams on July 24, 2016 at 09:25:00 PT
I love history, James Madison has turned out to be very right. Yes, Galileo was only spared because of his public celebrity and resulting favor with powerful families, he watched many of his scientist friends get executed by the Inquisition.agree Pence is one scary dude - he looks like he could be the president of the Aryan Brotherhood. 
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Comment #9 posted by Oleg the Tumor on July 23, 2016 at 11:12:21 PT
Sam Adams # 4 You have it right–but there's more!
Both Jefferson and Madison wanted a "separation" of church and state.Jefferson wanted it because he believed that "religion would eventually corrupt government."Madison wanted it because he believed that "government would've eventually corrupt religion" This might be a good time to review the results of the GOP platform – 2016, because both of their fears seem to be coming to fruition.Here is what the Republicans have decided this week in Cleveland:"Build a Huge Wall between the US-Mexico Border.Overturn Roe V Wade and end public funding for Planned Parenthood.Calls on Public Schools to Teach the Bible.Demand that lawmakers Use Religion When Making Decisions about the Bills.Endorses Gay Conversion Therapy.Opposes Transgender Rights and Blasts Gay Marriage.Condemns Pornography As a Public Menace."And way down at the bottom, in teeny tiny print:Restore the Glass-Steagal Act.Remember that Galileo spent the last years of his life serving house arrest because The Church would not accept his mathematical understanding of astronomy over what the Church perceived as "Holy"UHHH… It turned out that the Church's "understanding" of the facts needed some "Reformation". Not everybody was as lucky as Galileo. They wasted a lot of people. People who think that God needs them to charge about the Earth personally and inject themselves into every pore that they can find should stop and think about what kind of omnipotent God needs anybody or anything? Your conscious choices make all the difference. If my Creator needs me to pull His plan out of the fire, then we are BOTH in serious hot water!  In Galileo's day, it was astronomy.We are Now witnessing the same thing happening in the fields of organic chemistry, organic biology and the damage done to human DNA as a result of exposure to petroleum derivatives given to us in the form of fertilizers, pesticides and herbicides on food crops and antibiotics given to animals over the decades. Sorry for the run-on sentence, but if you don't get it out when you can, you might not get it out all. We need to study these things!I know, "Male and female he made them…" But there are five categories of sexuality.Today, people are Straight, Gay, Bisexual, Androgynous and Transgender.  Are we looking at "preferences" or at the organic chemistry that occurs when a person who is born with say, internal genitalia (or female) , but whose body produces testosterone instead of estrogen? Conversely, a person born with external genitalia (male) , but whose body produces estrogen instead of testosterone, is in a similar situation. Our bodies are chemical factories, and they don't always work as expected.Since I am certain that I do not understand why any of this
occurs, I know enough not to make any judgments. (let alone trot out Leviticus) But I do suspect the hundred plus years of exposure to petroleum distillates hasn't done us any good. As Benjamin Franklin exited the Constitutional convention that gave us our present Constitution, he was asked "what we had". His reply, "A Republic, if you can keep it".I'd say we lost it, and some time ago at that, to people trying to get elected to be able to control the cash flow of the United States Government, instead of having any intention of working for the benefit of "We the People". Religion is good for claiming the high ground, unless you get caught up in the lieTrump is being set up to hand it all over to Gov. Pence. If Trump is elected, he becomes an instant liability to the party. 
I suspect Donald Trump will lose the election, but I wonder if he will ever know how close he came to losing his life if he had won?
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Comment #8 posted by Oleg the Tumor on July 23, 2016 at 09:02:57 PT
FoM - Thank You Again!
It will be interesting to see what other professions will be affected by the ignoids. "Scorch the Earth and retreat" seems to be the order of the day.
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Comment #7 posted by Hope on July 21, 2016 at 20:15:53 PT
The Sheriff said bottled water is coming to town.
Google Hugo Colorado...News.
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Comment #6 posted by FoM on July 21, 2016 at 17:22:24 PT
It was too long for the url link. Posting it in the message works.
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Comment #5 posted by Oleg the Tumor on July 21, 2016 at 16:50:40 PT
Joe McCarthy Lives!
Here's another one from the "Big Brother is Watching" collection. I hope the link works.
Doctor Stunned After License is Suspended Over Marijuana Prescriptions
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Comment #4 posted by Sam Adams on July 21, 2016 at 13:55:37 PT
social sciences
the "social sciences" seem to have replaced religion in many ways. In the 1700's there were many different flavors of ignorant, wacko religious groups and cults, all with creative narratives about people and how we're supposed to live life. Some of them, like the Catholic Church, wielded incredible power.That's why founding fathers like Jefferson wanted to set up a secular state, based on fundamental, immutable human rights.  So the cult-du-jour of the mob or the rich elite couldn't impose their will on everyone else.Today we have these high priests of the ivory tower serving drinks & herb at the computer lab happy hour and trying to get dogmatic with us. It's all good! You go on doing your studies with the $50,000/year you extracted from the student families. Just keep your laws away from me!  I couldn't care less how your stoned grad students do at video games.We are living in new age of incredibly conformist moral laws. The government has become the Vatican. They'll trot out any BS propaganda narrative to oppress and control us.
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Comment #3 posted by observer on July 21, 2016 at 09:11:30 PT
Dissemblers Anonymous
re: "smokers actually acted less aggressive toward their computer opponents when they were high."Ah ha ... I suspect researchers knew this from the 1944 LaGuardia Committee report. When this pot pacifist peacenik information became available, the military industrial complex gasped in horror - like when President Kennedy decided to reign in the militarism and wanton murder of people "over there" (to steal their property and enslave them, i.e., standard operating procedure).Of course, it would sound really bad to state the real reasons why the police state targets pot. Just as it would have not been acceptable for Johnson, the intel agencies, the joint chiefs of staff to honestly state why they needed to "off" President Kennedy.They're still at it: a recent narrative floated is that Kennedy's doctor feelgood (Jacobson) pumped him too full of meth to take a hard line with the Russians. And so (the narrative goes) the insiders had to "take him out" - because President Kennedy took meth. 
(Dr. Feelgood: The Shocking Story of the Doctor Who May Have Changed History by Treating and Drugging JFK..., R Lertzman, W Birnes )Because it would sound really bad if people were persuaded JFK was killed by the police state because he wasn't sufficiently bellicose and warmongering. But if other officials, authorities, and experts said JFK had to "go" because of dope? Scary DOPE? METH! Oh my, Ethel! So, if the police state murdered JFK because Kennedy was too pacifist, then that would just be all wrong. Instead, tell people the police state offed JFK because of dope, then that's OK.  Likewise, if the police state fights tooth and nail to keep arresting and jailing people for pot, because pot makes people too pacifist, then that would just be all wrong. But if the police state arrests, jails, and enslaves you for pot - because pot makes you into a psycho, then that's OK.
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Comment #2 posted by HempWorld on July 20, 2016 at 19:45:42 PT
Vince, I hear ya!
I would say, these people are anti-human, anti-life, and yes, therefore, EVIL! (live backwards)Godspeed, and God Bless!Love, Peace, Prosperity, Abundance!Prayer!
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Comment #1 posted by Vincent on July 20, 2016 at 16:06:24 PT
Alright, now that this information is available, will the Anti-Marijuana LOWLIFES finally shut their big, stupid mouths?Hardly. Imbeciles never learn!
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