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State and Federal Marijuana Laws Collide
Posted by CN Staff on November 09, 2010 at 14:09:03 PT
By Oren Dorell, USA Today
Source: USA Today
USA -- People who use marijuana for medicinal purposes in states where it is legal are being penalized by the federal government because pot is still illegal under U.S. law.At Denver unemployment offices, medical users fired for failing a drug test are denied unemployment benefits, says lawyer Kimberlie Ryan, who represents some of those applicants.
In California, Jim Lacy, 60, who has an arthritic hip and uses medical marijuana for pain relief, says he has had his stash confiscated and been threatened with arrest at Border Patrol checkpoints near his Jacumba home.In Las Vegas, N.M., cancer patient Robert Jones, 70, says he has been notified that his federal rent subsidy is being revoked because he is a medical-marijuana user.Marijuana dispensary operator Steve DeAngelo of Harborside Health Center in Oakland says his federally insured bank dumped his account because he deals in an illegal drug.Problems occur at airport security checkpoints in medical marijuana states. Baggage screeners, who work for the federal Transportation Security Administration, turn medical marijuana users over to local police for prosecution, according to Ed Skvarna, chief of the Burbank airport police. Snipped   Complete Article: http://drugsense.org/url/Ybg3RPbdSource: USA Today (US) Author: Oren Dorell, USA TodayPublished: November 9, 2010Copyright: 2010 USA Today, a division of Gannett Co. Inc.Contact: editor usatoday.comWebsite: http://www.usatoday.com/CannabisNews Medical Marijuana Archiveshttp://cannabisnews.com/news/list/medical.shtml 
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Comment #21 posted by FoM on November 14, 2010 at 08:50:35 PT
museman
I know it turned our world upside down. Stick was boots on the ground from 69 to 71. He did 2 tours and agent orange destruction was everywhere he was.
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Comment #20 posted by museman on November 14, 2010 at 08:40:49 PT
Fom
Thank you.Since I am a 'Cold War' vet, and because I served in another arena during Nam, these presumptives do not apply to me. I was in a different fleet, so Agent Orange was never carried on any of the ships I was on.I was thinking perhaps that the 'presumptives' might have included their admittance to other things they did, like bio-experimentation, and such. Apparently not.I'm glad they at least are admitting this, it affected a lot of guys.
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Comment #19 posted by FoM on November 13, 2010 at 09:39:04 PT
museman
This is the best forum for these presumptives.http://vets.yuku.com/forums/74
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Comment #18 posted by FoM on November 13, 2010 at 09:26:02 PT
museman
A couple comments down on this page mentions the ships that are being allowed. I thought you were on a ship if I remember right.http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=15408433177&topic=15376#topic_top
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Comment #17 posted by FoM on November 13, 2010 at 09:22:49 PT
museman
Here it is. I saw it first on MyHealthVet this past summer and started following it.http://www.publichealth.va.gov/exposures/agentorange/
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Comment #16 posted by museman on November 13, 2010 at 08:52:19 PT
FoM =OT
Can you explain, or give me a link that explains these new 'presumptives?' I'd like to see what they are admitting to these days.
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Comment #15 posted by FoM on November 12, 2010 at 09:45:48 PT
Museman
My emotions recently have been weird but good. As I read the Veterans Forum and read what these Vietnam Veterans are receiving and the joy they are experiencing makes me so happy for them. One wants to buy his wife a new car. Some just want to pay off some bills and live less stressed for what time they have left on this earth. When you call to check on the status of your claim they really are pleasant and helpful. They are working hard to get the compensation out to those who have one of the new 3 presumptives. It has done my heart good to see the government trying. Trying is all I want to see.
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Comment #14 posted by museman on November 12, 2010 at 09:01:46 PT
Hope - 'veterans day'
Shrinking tumor! A very good sign!As a veteran, I've always kind of felt a great imbalance in the way we were treated after getting dumped back into society with "many wounds."Most VietNam era vets, like me were never even debriefed, or relieved of our oaths and things like 'top secret security clearance', no councelling, we were just supposed to suddenly fit back into the consumer rat race. The only good thing they gave us, was the 'GI Bill' -which allowed me to go to college and discover LSD. I tried 3 colleges before I finally took Tim Leary's advice. Later in life, I was actually able to go to a college to learn (some) of what I wanted.I could never accept the fact that many of my friends and brothers lost lives, limbs, and good dreams for the sake of the greedy corporate interests, and the politicians who work for them. We thought, as young, fired-up warriors, that we were going out to defend the American people from the Red Commies -sounds funny now, but it wasn't so funny back then, and when we exited basic training, most of us believed it.Yesterday I spent a lot of time 'forcing' (lol) some of the younger generation to listen to my 'war stories.' -they listened only because it was 'veterans day.'I remembered a lot, and most of it wasn't all that pleasant to remember, but the stories just leapt out of me.The guv is finally -after probably -60 to 80% have died, getting around to dealing properly with the Agent Orange survivors. I suppose this is a good thing, yet I can't help but remember all those years of suffering that were never addressed.Considering they tried to murder me with their MK-Ultra style experimentation (which they have admitted, just not the persons they did it to) they did on me and others, I've always felt they really needed some justice to come their way. And after years of witnessing their incredible corruption -getting more corrupted, and further removed from reality all the time, I have no credibility, faith, trust, or belief left to give them.There is a new generation in there now, but quite frankly, in those areas of 'lifestyles of the rich and degenerate' it seems that they have gotten more callous and full of self -importance than their predecessors.Yes some table scraps have been handed out the past few years, but I have never been able to accept that a politician gets paid hundreds of thousands of dollars for 'services' never actually rendered in any measurable or equitable amount, while those who defended those corrupt and decadent peoples right to be corrupt and decadent, -those veterans, rights, our rights were trampled in the tracks of the limos.It's nice that the VA is starting to catch up with us, and that the old War Mongers who ran it from '44 until just recently have gone into retirement, allowing some decent people with ethics higher than fear and hatred of everything and everyone that was different, into the mix.But they will never, never compensate us enough.LEGALIZE FREEDOM
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Comment #13 posted by FoM on November 12, 2010 at 07:59:40 PT
Hope
Oopsy, Mr. Hope said the wrong thing. LOL! I have been pleased with how the VA is working on the AO cases. Stick is under the Nehmer rule but he won't get back pay because he is receiving a VA Pension. Some of the soldiers will get as much as $4,500 a month and retro pay for the 3 new presumptives who have mulitiple disabilities and that is such a good thing. 
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Comment #12 posted by Hope on November 12, 2010 at 07:15:23 PT
What a wonderful thing for a country to take care
of those that served and risked and often gave their life at the behest of that country.My gosh! We take care of the old buzzards that serve in Congress and the Senate forever why not the soldier that got agent orange all over him every time he turned around and has paid an horrendous toll for it ever since.I'm glad that poor old soldier that had such a backlog waiting for him didn't have a heart attack when he got the news of the size of his stipend."Mr. Hope" and I had a huge throw down yesterday. We were out driving and he casually mentioned he was going to "Rearrange" my kitchen (he's the main cook and bottle washer for now)and "get rid" of a bunch of "Junk"... or "Stuff" or something!Oh my gosh! What an insult! The poor man hasn't got a smidgen of "smooth" in his soul at all. Aaarggh!Fighting while one of you is driving is perilous. Someone's got to keep an eye on the road! We made it home though and the fight was resolved by then. Enough, anyway.At first he didn't say "rearrange it to suit himself".... he said "rearrange it better"... or "right" or something like that. Oh my gosh! I can hardly find stuff in there now for his rearranging! Good grief! Oooooommmm. I'm getting upset again.Aaargh.The wounds! The wounds! They come from all over the place.Oooooommmm.Also, a note, for anyone that imagined the horror of the powdery old bald headed, anemic vampire that I feel like sometimes. Picture this. I have dimples. So that makes me not so scary. How scared can a person be of a vampire with dimples? That's why you never read about them. Dimples? Pffft. Not scary.
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Comment #11 posted by FoM on November 12, 2010 at 05:55:48 PT
Hope
Please don't ever hesitate telling us how you are doing. CNews is a place where we should be able to talk about what is important to us. I hope by Christmas you will be feeling much better and get a break from all the drugs you have had to take. The news is slow and always is after election time is over. It's a time of regrouping and finding the direction reform needs to go in the future. I have been spending this slow time reading a Veteran's forum about Agent Orange and IHD. I really appreciate the Obama Administrations effort to get the VA working better. I am reading as people get their compensation and the joy it is bringing to many people. One man received his compensation a few days ago and it was for over $220,000. He has been sick with heart disease from AO for many years. The very sad part is his wife who has been by his side thru it all passed away in June of this year. The way he talked about his wife was very touching. Who would want almost a quarter of a million dollars and not have their soul mate to share it with? I thank God you are doing so well. Please tell Mr. Hope a big thanks from me for caring for you so faithfully.
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Comment #10 posted by Hope on November 12, 2010 at 00:04:34 PT
Thank you FoM, Sam Adams, and Museman.
I hesitate telling you the stuff I do. It's unpleasant and "uncool", too. But when I see articles that talk about how medical marijuana is a scam and it doesn't really help people... I have to say something about the misery that busybodies and stupid "know it alls" say doesn't exist just because they aren't experiencing it. Prohibitionist freaks are crazy and they need to be stopped from hurting people and doing the damage they do and I don't know how to fight them but with truth. "We've got a brand new pair of roller skates... and I've got a brand new key". It's a truth key. Because now I don't just have to take someone else's word or not... I know, now. Fully. Cancer and fighting it, for me, seems like a new "tool"... but I wouldn't have picked it up on purpose, though... believe me... for fighting this insane prohibition.There's not much bravery to it, Sam. I want to get rid of the cancer, and survive this battle, so I do what I can and submit to what I feel I need to submit to. I think I have some good doctors that know what they are doing... as much as anyone can.By the way, I've found out first hand that rumors that cancer patents are severely under treated for pain are true.One more uncool and immodest revelation, for now. It's cool to me though... way cool... wow... yippee... and all that. Because the tumor has shrunk so much and I'm all clear everywhere else and I don't have the genetic kind. The kind of breast cancer I have, if it comes back, is just as likely to come back anywhere... not just the breast. Because of all that and how much the chemotherapy has shrunk it, I'm not going to have to have a mastectomy. Just a lumpectomy. I can hardly believe it. It is wonderful. It's not just vanity... it my body... less of it chopped away and faster healing. I'm thrilled.... and when I'm complaining about the misery of chemotherapy... I'm reminded that the chemotherapy has done the difference between lumpectomy and mastectomy for me. That's a miracle. Thank you for all your prayers and good thoughts.I was stage three cancer with a very large tumor. Now I'm just going to have a lumpectomy. I'm very happy about that.After that... it's on to radiation and recovery and of course, being on guard and watching that it doesn't come back for the rest of my life. We talked about having "balls" and "testicles" and "gonads" around her often enough over the years that we ought to be able to survive a little breast talk.:0)
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Comment #9 posted by museman on November 11, 2010 at 08:28:33 PT
Hope
Love, hugs, and prayers. We know you can do it, and thank you for sharing the details, even though it is painful (not as much as for you) to read.American people are too insulated from many parts of reality, the many, suffering people in this country are deliberately ignored except in 'special circumstances' like an Oprah show or something. Sick people aren't 'cool' and they don't make our harsh, unloving, unforgiving, callous government look very good.We're with you.
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Comment #8 posted by Sam Adams on November 10, 2010 at 16:42:38 PT
Hope hang in there
Hope you sound like a brave person to me! It sounds like you've made it almost all the way through, just think how the cancer feels right now, it's getting its butt kicked.
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Comment #7 posted by FoM on November 10, 2010 at 13:51:03 PT
Hope
Try to look towards Christmas. You should be feeling much better then.
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Comment #6 posted by Hope on November 10, 2010 at 13:32:59 PT
I'm not really complaining about chemotherapy
as much as I'm complaining about the people that raid people and arrest, shackle, rob, bully, imprison, and intimidate people over cannabis/marijuana/weed and tell them "No!"... "You aren't free to possess that plant or plant matter!".This pain is crazy. I'm just grateful the hard or sharp pain isn't constant. And it will get easier when the chemotherapy is over. Most of it isn't as bad as the Levaquen thing was that time. It's just so long and drawn out and it's wearing me down. But just two more chemotherapy treatments. Then surgery. Then radiation. I'm dedicated to getting it done.:0)I really look more like a traditional bald headed smiley face most of the time... only palish... not so bright yellow... than an ancient vampire... most of the time.
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Comment #5 posted by FoM on November 10, 2010 at 12:46:52 PT
Hope
I am so sorry for what you are going through. 
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Comment #4 posted by Hope on November 10, 2010 at 12:38:21 PT
I feel so bad... and I hurt all over...
some places more than others. Like my fingers and toes hurt really bad and for long periods of time. Nueropathic pain. Buzzing, tingling pain. My fingers and toes feel crushed. Bloody crushed. Sometimes they feel as if all the blood had drained from fingers and I'm dieing from my fingers in. I massage them and it's like there's no blood in them. My finger tips are white and very, very unnaturally cold. Nothing but a dry, freezing cold, aching bone. My nails and fingertips not only feel crushed, the nails are discolored from the inside. Very like bruises. That's not "normal" for me... but it's "normal" while undergoing chemotherapy. It hurts to type. I miss the letter y a lot because the index finger on my right hand hurts a lot. All the fingers on my right hand seem to hurt a bit more than the left... and especially the index.My muscles spasm for no apparent reason. Like my body is repulsing from some terrible insult to it somewhere inside me. My bones hurt. My muscles hurt. My skin is behaving strangely. I swell up slick sometimes and have great bright rosey red, swollen chemo cheeks. Sometimes I wither into an ancient, wretched vampirish (I'm anemic, now)... being with my skin so dry I'm like a great bald headed vampire with my skin turning to powder because of my great ancientness. (I know. I've read too many vampire stories.)Crazy, harsh, sudden stabbing or poking pain. Piercing. Aching pain. Like the flu. Pain that makes a person feel brittle, crippled, and vulnerable to just breaking down, suddenly cracking from the brittleness, and falling over. Drawing pain that pulls, dreadfully, on a person's back and legs and makes them have to take shuffling steps instead of long strides if they want to get anywhere.There is gentle, non poisonous relief to be had... if you break the law. But their "job" is to keep me, and others like me, from having it. There are government jobs at stake, and imaginary children whose duty it is for narcs to protect from cannabis use... or arrest. So part of the government's job is to see that I and others like me, continue to suffer, and suffer as much as possible. No relief under God or sky unless it is triplicate "Approved" by the government. What kind of government has to be all that much in my business? They are not protecting me or anyone else. They are harming me and many other of the citizens of a nation that is supposed to be a lot about self government.Don't construe what I'm saying as an excuse, ever, by anyone, to forgo chemotherapy if it is needed. It's quite doable. Children do it. It's not easy. It's far from a bowl of cherries. But don't ever think you'd rather die than have chemotherapy. 
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Comment #3 posted by dongenero on November 10, 2010 at 07:56:06 PT
US appeals court judge endorses legal marijuana
Juan Torruella says it's only realistic alternative since the drug war has been lost.Torruella sits on the Boston-based U.S. Court of Appeals for the First Circuit. He was nominated to be a federal judge by President Gerald Ford and elevated to the appeals court by President Ronald Reagan in 1984. http://tinyurl.com/2e53j2x
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Comment #2 posted by FoM on November 10, 2010 at 06:37:51 PT
Some San Jose Pot Clubs Shut Down in Protest
Some San Jose Pot Clubs Shut Down in Protest of Aggressive Police RaidsNovember 10, 2010URL: http://www.insidebayarea.com/oaklandtribune/localnews/ci_16568036
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Comment #1 posted by runruff on November 10, 2010 at 02:13:53 PT
Medicine Chief Willie White Feather.
At the drum circle on the winter solstice 2008, Chief White Feather said that as we approach the new millennium we will see a quickening of changes. As we approach 2012 we end one month on the cosmic calendar. A cosmic month is over 5000 years and is called an age. The Age of Aquarius is approaching and it brings with it an age of truth and light.I told my wife that I believe that the Internet is the light that is bringing the truth to us in a tsunami of information. Politics are changing. The old way of doing business is obsolete. Nothing can be hidden and nothing is hidden from the "light".History is slow in the unfolding but I try to keep track in a patient way.God may have invented time to save us from everything happening at once!
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