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Posted by CN Staff on September 11, 2009 at 06:24:29 PT
By Patrik Jonsson, Staff Writer of The CSM 
Source: Christian Science Monitor 

Atlanta -- It's harvest time again for the marijuana plant, and US drug eradication officers are busier than usual. An ever-tightening southern border, high unemployment, and a steady, even growing, appetite for the illicit plant have all led to a surge in marijuana acreage in the country's chief pot-growing regions, law enforcement sources say.
In the first eight months of the year, local, state, and federal police chopped down 8 million plants worth about $22 billion on the street – a 14 percent increase from last year. Seizures of the farms have nearly doubled in Washington state alone. There has been no increase in overall enforcement efforts or funding. In recent years, domestic pot production in some parts of the US had fallen due to more anti-drug agents in helicopters scouring the prime cultivation areas, including the hillsides of southern Appalachia and the Pacific Northwest, police say. Only between 20 to 40 percent of planted pot fields are ever harvested and sold due to US enforcement actions, says the Office of Drug Control Policy. But rising unemployment seems to have given new impetus to the industry, officials say.  Driven by Tough Times  Especially in east Tennessee, Kentucky, and West Virginia, tough economic times may be motivating descendants of moonshiners to take the high risk and put spades in the earth. Pocketing a street value of up to $2,000 per plant, a successful grower can quickly rise in local prominence – new trucks and boats popping up in poor areas are often a sign of successful cultivators, police say. The illegal American pot harvest is worth about $35 billion a year, according to government estimates. In comparison, the 2007 bumper corn crop in the US was worth approximately $45 billion. Illegal California growers, too, seem to have picked up production – a sign to some that while the US economy is struggling, the black market is growing.  Growing Appetite  So is demand. The US Department of Health and Human Services reported Thursday in the annual National Survey on Drug Use and Health that the number of Americans who report "current use" of pot rose from 14.4 million in 2007 to 15.2 million in 2008. Hard times and unemployment seem to have had no negative impact on consumption, said Ed Shemelya, chief of marijuana eradication for the Office of Drug Control Policy's Appalachian High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area, in an interview to the Associated Press. In fact, it's the other way around, he said. Despite intense eradication efforts and anti-drug campaigns, Justice Department figures show marijuana consumption has stayed level over the last decade, agrees Bruce Mirken, a San Francisco-based spokesman for the pro-legalization Marijuana Policy Project in Washington. "It may not be that people are spending their last money on marijuana, but certainly the fact is that the need to … distract yourself is pretty much a constant in human behavior through good times and bad," he says. Note: A surge in marijuana farming this year may be due to unemployment as well as growing demand for the drug.Source: Christian Science Monitor (US)Author: Patrik Jonsson, Staff Writer of The Christian Science Monitor Published: September 10, 2009 EditionCopyright: 2009 The Christian Science Publishing SocietyContact: oped csps.comWebsite: URL: -- Cannabis Archives

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Comment #49 posted by FoM on September 16, 2009 at 15:59:59 PT
You had a super great time I can tell! That's wonderful.
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Comment #48 posted by BGreen on September 16, 2009 at 14:51:25 PT
A totally far out memory to share
On Sunday Mrs. Green and I were hunting for a hidden garden area by the Amsterdam Historical Museum and we wandered into a courtyard area where there was a free symphony concert going on. I don't know who they were but they were so amazing it gave me chills.Totally freakin' far out!The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #47 posted by BGreen on September 16, 2009 at 14:43:38 PT
Answers to a couple of questions
I can't find the place where someone (I think it was duzt) asked me about Mila and her shop, but she still has her shop. She's had some health issues but it hasn't stopped her from her passion.No, ekim, I heard nothing but fear of losing their freedoms just like the USA. Nothing forward or progressive is happening in the Netherlands at the present. They are controlled by a religious sect very similar to our vile Republican party, only they're known as the Christian Democratic party. They're dead set on turning back every progressive move the Dutch have ever made.I have a lot more insight on their political agenda that I will share as time permits.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #46 posted by FoM on September 15, 2009 at 20:55:27 PT
Thank you so much. You are so special. 
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Comment #45 posted by BGreen on September 15, 2009 at 20:49:03 PT
This story is for you, FoM
Mrs. Green and I had spent a beautiful day on Saturday just enjoying each other and we went to eat dinner at Pancakes! Amsterdam. We had a young man as our waiter and he seemed to be having a good time and making the most out of having to work.What happened next is one of those situations where my emotions overflow out of my control.There was music playing in the background but when one song came on our waiter went over and turned up the volume.The song was Heart Of Gold by Neil Young.I got a big smile on my face and he said "Oh, you like Neil Young?"I said "yeah, but I have a friend who REALLY loves Neil Young. She goes to his concerts whenever she can."He said "I have a good friend who goes to his concerts here, too, and he turned me on to Neil."After he walked away, I sat there eating my apple pancake and tears started uncontrollably rolling down my cheeks. I was having such a marvelous time with Mrs. Green at that moment and I knew that it would have also been one of the most special moments if it were you and Stick sitting there instead of us.I'm used to emotional overload but I think it says a lot about our friendship that in my heart we were sharing that moment with you.The Reverend Bud Green
Pancakes! Amsterdam
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Comment #44 posted by FoM on September 15, 2009 at 16:22:50 PT
I'll be happy to hear everything you want to tell us. I'm glad you are home safely too.
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Comment #43 posted by BGreen on September 15, 2009 at 15:43:51 PT
I'm home
I just wanted you to know I was back. I have so many stories to tell yet so much work to get done.We have to go out and get some food but I'll write some more after we return.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #42 posted by ekim on September 14, 2009 at 13:20:50 PT
BGreen is there any talk at the shops on oil 
Are the Dutch doing research on cannabis oil for food and 
Many on earth are hungry and sick, we now have many States 
with Med Laws on the books.
In every med use State it has been proven as to how fast a cannabis plant takes to ripen to seed.One hopes that the Dutch are working on this.thanks good luck
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Comment #39 posted by museman on September 13, 2009 at 10:00:18 PT

OT: conspiracies
Though I agree with FoM that the 911 'story' has just been run into the ground, and rehashing all the unresolved, and pretended resolutions to that is just so much emotional garbage, and I agree with Hempworld and others about what really happened, but I have a huge issue with the idea that one person, or a handful of persons should be able to state something like "conspiracy theory" like a class tattle-tale narcing to the teacher.The opinion that 'conspiracy theories' are this or that, should have no more validity than the theories themselves. - After all, a 'theory' is just an opinion, until proven one way or the other.Some may be of the opinion that anything that is not directly, and obviously related to cannabis prohibition should not be included in the discussion. Quite frankly I find that a very narrow minded approach to the situation.Since prohibition itself is a major conspiracy of the federal government (and their elite-class backers) to defraud the citizens of the United States, I hardly think that excluding other perspectives on related issues and intertwined conspiratorial events and activities of our corrupted government is healthy to the discussion.Perhaps some don't want to make the mental effort it takes to accept the possibility that our government is guilty of even greater crimes and deceptions than just cannabis prohibition, or that the numerous coverups, lies, and corrupt actions covering a wide range of subject matter are un-related. Some believe that cannabis prohibition is just a random, freak imbalance in our governmental process -even though history ties it all together quite nicely, revealing the accepted (by the anti-prohibition community) conspiracies of such entities as Hearst, J.P.Lily, the MPCA, and other less known parties who all conspired to make pot illegal. Theirs was a 'successful' conspiracy -at least up til now, and one of the ways they succeeded so well was to exclude certain perspectives from the legal dialogue. Until medical marijuana was established THERE WAS NO DEFENSE -you were guilty. You could not refer to Genesis, claim 'medical use' or any protection under the constitution -until some few brave souls fought it to the Supreme Court (which many know serves the purposes of partisan politics, more than justice).The state of affairs that has resulted in 70 + years of making innocent people suffer over a 'god'-given plant, is not so cut, dried, and simple as the law, it is a symptom of a greater disease that is interwoven into the fabric of our social/political/economic/religious belief systems to such a degree, that to think a cure is relieving the particular symptom of cannabis prohibition, may be very westernly acceptable -like western medicine -that thrives on treatment, but has little to offer in the way of 'cure', but the root cause remains un treated, ready to take over again like cancer.People from all walks of life partake in the wonderful properties of cannabis. We are of differing opinions about many things. The idea that one perspective is more valid than anothers' -for any reason is the real 'defeat to our cause.' Ideas do not grow where they are not allowed to be presented. Pools of water that do not flow become stagnant.Those who wish to be exclusive in these ways, cannot possibly be given validation over the rest, if so, well stagnant pools tend to emit some obnoxious odors after a while.FREE CANNABIS FOR EVERYONE
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Comment #38 posted by Hope on September 13, 2009 at 07:58:53 PT

"chillin' with my lady is the #1 task "
One of the things we love about you BGreen. Don't let her down.Thank you for checking in and you'll have lots and lots of fun and be safe and happy.
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Comment #37 posted by FoM on September 13, 2009 at 05:33:49 PT

I can tell you are having a wonderful time. Enjoy!
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Comment #36 posted by BGreen on September 13, 2009 at 02:53:42 PT

It's hard to find time to write
We took several trams and rode the ferry four times and still managed to walk over 11 miles yesterday. I'm going to bed about 3:30 a.m. and getting up at 9.We're off again for today but I'll try to write a little this afternoon. I love you all but chillin' with my lady is the #1 task on this vacation.Later!The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #35 posted by Had Enough on September 12, 2009 at 22:42:14 PT

The answer is easy…
But yet so hard to achive…Jackie DeShannon - Put A Little Love in Your Heart

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Comment #34 posted by FoM on September 12, 2009 at 10:14:04 PT

I have a very bad back from years of getting tossed off of horses. I was given a prescription for Flexeril recently. Only 40 pills. I would have to go back to the doctor to get another 40 pills and I didn't bother. Flexeril worked great but having to go to the doctor every 20 days is insane to me. I could take 2 a day and got so much work done. Now I am in pain and moving much slower. I will get another script for 40 when I have my 3 month doctor's appointment. Flexeril isn't a narcotic and I don't understand why it is treated with such control.
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Comment #33 posted by Sam Adams on September 12, 2009 at 10:01:48 PT

pain treatment
FOM I think one of most embarrassing things about the US is the way we systematically under-treat pain. I just don't get it. It doesn't benefit anyone. It doesn't increase productivity, profit, it doesn't make us stronger in war, etc. Relieving pain is the right thing to do for all these things.  Yet major institutions and the government are constantly attacking access to pain medication. So primitive! some dark scapegoating or witchhunt instinct that must lurk within some humans
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Comment #32 posted by FoM on September 12, 2009 at 09:45:43 PT

Chronic pain is real period. Chronic pain can make a person't life totally unproductive. Cannabis can help settle the mind and relax tense muscles and remove a person from the severity of pain and make them cope with pain better. People get prescriptions for powerful narcotics for chronic pain but for some that is ok because it's a man made drug not a medicinal herb. 
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Comment #31 posted by Sam Adams on September 12, 2009 at 09:18:51 PT

almost a perfect article, except for a few cheap shots - implying that "chronic pain" is not a real medical condition - apparently being mean to those who are suffering must be some kind of Repubican tough-guy badge of honor for Forbes.also there are Tourette's-like bouts of yellow journalism that erupt occasionally. In the middle of the calm business analysis a few spasms of "teen junkies and gang warfare" erupt out inexplicably:
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Comment #30 posted by FoM on September 12, 2009 at 05:56:23 PT

Thank you for sharing your experience with us. It sounds like it was wonderful. I couldn't be happier that they see President Obama as good for us. I am not ashamed anymore with our President like I was with the last administration.HempWorld I have been to NYC a number of times and have been to the Garden, Greenwich Village, Radio City Music Hall, The Empire State Building, NBC, Rockefeller Center and probably other places I can't think of right now. 
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Comment #29 posted by BGreen on September 12, 2009 at 01:35:23 PT

The Dutch
We were invited to a real homemade Dutch dinner last night with the couple who owns the apartment we rent. We spent over 5 hours eating, drinking wine and talking and had a marvelous time.This was special on a number of different levels.First, it's special to be invited this way because it means they view you as a friend.Secondly, it gave us a chance to learn about Amsterdam and the Netherlands from someone born in Amsterdam in 1944 during the Nazi occupation of the Netherlands.To put in succinctly, this 65-year-old successful Dutch businessman agrees with me on almost every political position I have, INCLUDING the distrust of the Bush administration, the residual damage done to the world by Bush and Tony Blair and the probable complicity of these rogue administrations in the 9/11 attacks.There is no conspiracy theory here, just a journalistic fact that the rest of the world has no faith in the truthfulness of anything our previous government said or did.The good thing is that EVERYBODY I've talked to looks at President Obama as a positive charismatic leader who is good for our Country.I've told them about all of the lies and "death panel killing grandma" nonsense coming from the losing party but they still have hope for our Country.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #28 posted by RevRayGreen on September 11, 2009 at 22:05:46 PT

I went to the WTC
in 1981 and the Statue of Liberty that year, 2nd trip to NYC, family, my 2 older brothers went to a prep school in NJ.
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Comment #27 posted by Dankhank on September 11, 2009 at 21:38:01 PT

i posted it on facebook ....
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Comment #26 posted by FoM on September 11, 2009 at 18:39:32 PT

Very nice!
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Comment #25 posted by mykeyb420 on September 11, 2009 at 18:37:10 PT

yes we cananbis
HELP spread the word,,,check out this link
yes we cannabis
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Comment #24 posted by FoM on September 11, 2009 at 18:00:38 PT

Thank you. I appreciate it. 
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Comment #23 posted by FoM on September 11, 2009 at 17:43:26 PT

I know you didn't and thank you so much. You have no idea how much I appreciate it.
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Comment #22 posted by HempWorld on September 11, 2009 at 17:29:04 PT

Dear FoM, yoshi, duzt, Sam Adams, Rev et. al. ...
Which of you have been inside the WTC? Well, call me nutso, (and I don't want to brag about this) but I have, maybe that is why I did what I did. If you have been up those wonderful towers then maybe it affects you differently.FoM, I am sorry I did not mean to offend anyone.Peace all!
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Comment #21 posted by yoshi on September 11, 2009 at 17:22:45 PT:

Hemp World 9-11
Thanks for caring enough to share your thoughts on this tragic anniversary.
To those who still believe the official story, please keep an open mind.
I'm glad Charlie Sheen has come forward to push for the truth, hope to see more national debate on this issue.
Can we today also remember the victims of US torturers, in the name of fighting terrorism. War is peace, wake up people

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Comment #20 posted by dongenero on September 11, 2009 at 15:09:29 PT

For FoM
Let's have a healthy hit of respect for FoM. Once she calls it, that should be enough, if we expect to remain welcome. These conspiracy theories are widely available in countless locations and have been for years, to anyone who wishes to go there. 

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Comment #19 posted by FoM on September 11, 2009 at 13:37:14 PT

How Marijuana Became Legal
September 11, 2009(Fortune Magazine) -- Medical marijuana is giving activists a chance to show how a legitimized pot business can work. Is the end of prohibition upon us?URL:
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Comment #18 posted by Dankhank on September 11, 2009 at 13:21:09 PT

events ...
40 years ago or eight years ago a world-shaking event took place. One showed peace, love and understanding to the world, the other, war, hate and misunderstanding.One was made of honesty, openness and good will, the other, deceit, secrecy and evil.A discussion, on anniversary day, likely is appropriate as we should not forget either.Bickering serves no purpose, save, to divide.Cesar Chavez's wife, likely, tired of hearing about migrant workers. That doesn't alleviate the need to push on.Explosions in WTC have been reported since day one. Interesting it would get MSNBC's attention, in year 8.I am sure we don't know the real story of what happened.Nuff said.
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Comment #17 posted by FoM on September 11, 2009 at 12:59:15 PT

Thank you. I really appreciate it. I turned the computer off and took the dog for another walk. I can't stand to hear it anymore either.
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Comment #16 posted by duzt on September 11, 2009 at 12:36:40 PT

I see this site as a site for cannabis activists (and anybody wanting good information), not conspiracy theory nuts. We all have our opinions, but this isn't the place for that stuff. This is the place we go to discuss cannabis, period. I have had to deal with the conspiracy people so much that I have learned to hate them almost as much as the anti crowd, they only hurt our cause. Please respect FOM for all of her hard work here, the conspiracy conversation will only make people not take you seriously and can do enormous damage to our cause. Helping people who suffer from horrible diseases and injuries is what is important, not 9/11 BS. FOM, I respect whatever decisions you make, you are an amazing person, but I would suggest nipping this conversation in the bud, so to speak, as some of us really don't want to hear the nonsense.
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Comment #15 posted by FoM on September 11, 2009 at 10:48:17 PT

Would you please show me just a little respect? I don't want this on CNews. Why do people push so hard when a nice request is made? 
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Comment #14 posted by tintala on September 11, 2009 at 10:47:06 PT:

The growing appetite is obvious
the CANNABIS POLICIES OF USA haven't worked. ALso the government forces ppl to drink, with only hard drugs for alternatives. No pot= drink more .Even hillbillies are becoming aware that cannabis is more benign than alcohol, and worht a helluva lot more. But the DEA says they have made consumption of cannabis go down/? not where I live.
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Comment #13 posted by HempWorld on September 11, 2009 at 10:44:09 PT

Sam Adams
Thank you Sam, yes that's why I brought it up. 9/11 should be vivid memory for what the US Gov't is capable of. And it should be a warning sign for us. As long as I have breath in me I will try to convince people of the FACTS. I believe that is my duty as a fellow human being. The very worst about this day is that we do not know where the highjacked planes really went or how the people in them were murdered.
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Comment #12 posted by FoM on September 11, 2009 at 10:31:15 PT

About 9/11
It was tragic. To rehash this every year doesn't do anyone any good. It would be like me on the anniversary of my son's death pulling out videos and watching them. It's over and it's done. It's time to move on. We can't fix the past but we can help the direction we go in the future.
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Comment #11 posted by Sam Adams on September 11, 2009 at 10:30:34 PT

one more
if you think we should accept the Government's 9/11 story and move on you're mistaken. Look at how it's being used today! It's the whole raison d'etre for these Repubs. 9/11 lies at the very core of their control over the United States!"
Representative Alcee Hastings, Democrat of Florida, attributed the Wednesday night displays to politics.“I firmly believe it’s more about the 2010 and 2012 elections than whether or not we have health care,’’ Hastings said.Wilson commonly ends his short floor speeches by saying “God bless America, God bless the troops, and I’ll never forget 9-11,’’ Hastings said. "
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Comment #10 posted by Sam Adams on September 11, 2009 at 10:27:48 PT

personally I'll always remember 9/11 for the rest of my life and how the right wing Stalinist types used it to take control of the country. And I don't believe the official line on it for one second.And when did we decide that anything contradicting US govt. propaganda is a wild conspiracy theory? that would rule out all our discussions about Hearst, Mellon Bank, Anslinger, the hemp de-corticator, Popular Mechanics magazine and the founding of MJ Prohibition
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Comment #9 posted by HempWorld on September 11, 2009 at 10:21:54 PT

Remembering 9/11! What a con job it was! II
What I posted is not a 'conspiracy theory' but actual coverage of 9/11 while it happened, including conversations of the fire fighters who were blown away by the explosions, MSNBC commentary on the scene!If you think these REAL images are somehow constructed, then I feel sorry for you.9/11 was tragic, but even more so because it was an inside job!
Remembering 9/11! What a con job it was!
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Comment #8 posted by FoM on September 11, 2009 at 10:02:32 PT

I don't want any conspiracy theories on CNews but maybe by leaving them others will not post that nonsense. Just my 2 cents. Will that do?
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Comment #7 posted by runruff on September 11, 2009 at 09:59:33 PT

TM.............. need not be so reticent!
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Comment #6 posted by TroutMask on September 11, 2009 at 09:52:37 PT

I protest the post of any "conspiracy theory BS" on this board that is not related to marijuana. I don't care if it's baloney about 9/11, insistence that the US never landed on the moon, denial that the Holocaust ever happened, refusal to believe that the Earth is flat, or anything else. Keep your BS to yourselves and your other low-self-esteem conspiracy cronies. I request that the prior 9/11 conspiracy BS post be deleted along with this one. -TM
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Comment #5 posted by FoM on September 11, 2009 at 09:45:11 PT

I had to turn the news off after watching a little of the attacks. We took the dogs for a walk instead. I don't know why they keep doing this every year. It must bring it all back to the people who lost loved ones on that terrible day.
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Comment #4 posted by museman on September 11, 2009 at 08:53:59 PT

let them eat fast food
" new trucks and boats popping up in poor areas are often a sign of successful cultivators, police say."Yes the signs of wealth and comfort.Only those who are ENTITLED to such thing should have them.Certainly not poor people! That is the real crime that is feared, that people other than the qualified rich should have anything other than what the lords of wealth and propriety dole out for slave wages, and 'favored slave' wages for 'professionals.'Yes the 'word from the top' ever since those jazz musicians started 'stepping out' of their social position, is to 'keep 'em down' whatever the cost; war, inventions of crisis after crisis to keep emotions high and intellect down, propaganda as curriculum in the schools and churches, and a list of crimes against humanity and the earth that has as yet to even slow down.The fox has been in the henhouse for so long now, way too many are convinced he is a rooster.In the words of one of my favorite songs (lyrically) "F--k the police!" -and all their rich masters.LEGALIZE FREEDOM
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Comment #3 posted by HempWorld on September 11, 2009 at 08:42:59 PT

Remembering 9/11! What a con job it was!
Please see this video and hear the fire fighters talk about all the explosions at the WTC, in the basement etc. And hear Rick Sanchez, now at CNN, reporting for MSNBC, the very same thing; explosions every 18 mins. after the 'planes' hit.And despite this glaring truth, we have to believe it is done by 'terrorists' wich is true for the real people behind 9/11
Remembering 9/11! What a con job it was!
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Comment #2 posted by runruff on September 11, 2009 at 07:58:42 PT

Like their moon shinnin' dads!
Well there it is folks,they are so low on logic they are comparing these bad times with the bad times of the great depression. They are saying, the children of the failed prohibition of last generation are bootlegging contraband to survive! Well at least they are not taking away the needed resources to survive from others. This is cowards work! New boats and cars, he slobbers so he sounds like Sylvester the Cat speaking as he anticipates all the Asset Forfeiture that lies before him. He could see a new boat in his driveway, His daughter driving a new car to a college these poor kids will never see! And cash...YES!There is evil afoot my friends and it ain't the farmers so don't look at them!Murder and theft is sometimes masked in official sounding purposely misleading terms and catch phrases but the Bard said it best: A beast by any other name is still a beast! Hello DEA!

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Comment #1 posted by Sam Adams on September 11, 2009 at 07:09:43 PT

just think how many other areas of the economy are pushing up, trying to be creative, trying to work hard to earn money, and being suffocated by Big Government.All the uniforms are sucking money and productivity down the drain and destroying it, the entrepeneurs are the ones that actually create value and wealth. We can't go on like this forever. 
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