NORML's Weekly News Bulletin - July 24, 2008

  NORML's Weekly News Bulletin - July 24, 2008

Posted by CN Staff on July 24, 2008 at 12:44:11 PT
Weekly Press Release 
Source: NORML 

California: Nonviolent Offender Rehabilitation Act Qualifies For November Ballot July 24, 2008 - Sacramento, CA, USSacramento, CA: State election officials have approved a measure for the November 2008 ballot that mandates probation for non-violent drug offenders and reduces pot possession penalties.
Sponsored by the Drug Policy Alliance, Proposition 5 (aka the Nonviolent Offender Rehabilitation Act), would expand the diversion of non-violent offenders to drug treatment and increase funding for state-sponsored rehabilitation programs. The proposal would also reduce minor marijuana possession penalties from a misdemeanor (punishable by a $100 criminal fine with a criminal record) to a non-criminal infraction (punishable by a $100 civil fine with no criminal record).According to the NORA campaign website, "Because NORA would sharply limit the incarceration of nonviolent offenders, the nonpartisan Legislative Analyst's Office projects that the measure would save California $1 billion or more each year in prison and parole costs. … [T]he state would see additional net savings of $2.5 billion over several years as prison-construction costs would be reduced by NORA's reforms."The California Democratic Party, the California Society of Addiction Medicine, the California League of Women Voters, and the California Academy of Family Physicians have each endorsed Proposition 5.The DPA championed a similar, but less expansive statewide initiative (Proposition 36) in 2000, which passed with 61 percent of the vote. For more information, please visit: http://noracampaign.blogspot.comDL: New Orleans: District Attorney Charging Minor Pot Offenders With Felonies  July 24, 2008 - New Orleans, LA, USNew Orleans, LA: Hundreds of low-level pot possession offenders are facing five-to-20 years in prison after being charged with felony offenses by The New Orleans new district attorney, according to an investigative report published this week by the newspaper New Orleans City Business.The report finds that a disproportionate number of felony cases filed by District Attorney Keva Landrum-Johnson are related to the prosecution of small-time marijuana offenders who are facing their second or third possession offense. Critics of the policy charge, including Steve Singer, the Chief of Trials for the New Orleans Public Defenders Office, charge that the filings have “clogged the courts with non-violent, petty offenses, drained the resources of the criminal justice system and damaged low-income African-American communities.”Under Louisiana law, first time pot possession is a misdemeanor offense. However, DA's may charge repeat offenders with either a misdemeanor or a felony. Under state law, a second marijuana possession offense is punishable by up to five years in prison. A third offense is punishable by up to 20 years in prison.The city's previous DAs routinely charged repeat pot possession offenders with misdemeanors rather than felonies, the paper reported. It estimated that the city courts could handle nearly 4,000 marijuana possession cases this year.“District Attorney Landrum-Johnson may think she's being 'tough on crime,' but really she's being dumb on crime,” NORML Legal Counsel Keith Stroup said. “Her constituents are demanding that she crack down on violent crime. Instead, the DA is clogging the courts and wasting police and prosecutorial resources by throwing the book at pot smokers.” For more information, please contact Keith Stroup, NORML's Legal Counsel, at (202) 483-5500.DL: Pot Compound Enhances Efficacy Of Anti-Cancer Agents, Study Says July 24, 2008 - London, United KingdomLondon, United Kingdom: The administration of THC in combination with conventional anti-leukemia therapies enhances the effectiveness of anti-cancer agents in vitro (e.g., in a test tube or petri dish), according to preclinical data to be published in the journal Leukemia & Lymphoma.Investigators at St George's University and St. Bartholomew's Hospital in London reported that THC acts synergistically with other cytotoxic agents (toxic agents that effect specific cells) to target and kill luekemic cells. "Overall, these results demonstrate for the first time that a combination approach with THC and established cytotoxic agents may enhance cell death," authors concluded.Investigators had previously reported that THC was a "potent inducer of apoptosis" (cell suicide) in leukemic cell lines.Earlier this year, the journal Cancer Research reported that the administration of cannabinoids halts the spread of a wide range of cancers, including prostate cancer, breast cancer, lung cancer, pancreatic cancer, and brain cancer.Commenting on the study, NORML Deputy Director Paul Armentano said that the findings might indicate a future role for cannabinoids as an adjunct to standard anti-cancer treatments like chemotherapy.The study's authors estimated that anti-cancer drug derived from cannabinoids could become available within "two to three years."For more information, please contact Paul Armentano, NORML Deputy Director. Full text of the study, "Enhancing the in vitro cytotoxic activity of delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol in leukemic cells through a combinatorial approach," will appear in Leukemia & Lymphoma.DL: NORML Foundation (DC)Published: July 24, 2008Copyright: 2008 NORML Contact: norml Website: NORML Archives 

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Comment #71 posted by FoM on July 28, 2008 at 09:55:05 PT
Just a Comment
I had a very nice visit with the young woman who is head of the Obama campaign in our county this morning. She is from the Houston, Texas area and now is living up here in our area. We talked about many things but I mentioned this site and why I feel it is important. She didn't seem shocked at all. 
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Comment #70 posted by Hope on July 28, 2008 at 06:06:37 PT
Rachel Hoffman
I read about this back when it happened.Every time I see a woman's or girl's black flip-flop... and I see them plenty without owning a pair myself, I think of the injustice and wrong inflicted upon Rachel Hoffman.Likely I'll never see one again without remembering that single lost shoe, that black flip flop, she lost in the fracas that led to her death, being found at the scene of her disappearance. That image is tattooed somehow, somewhere into my consciousness.
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Comment #69 posted by afterburner on July 27, 2008 at 21:51:25 PT
This Quote Seems Appropriate on this Thread
{ "THE TWO COMMANDMENTS FOR THE MOLECULAR AGE"I Thou shalt not alter the consciousness of thy fellow man.IIThou shalt not prevent thy fellow man from altering his own consciousness. } --page 81, The Politics of Ecstasy by Dr. Timothy Leary [Ecstasy refers to the experience, not the club drug!]The control politics of many Republicans and neo-cons wants to prevent others from altering their own consciousness according to their own wills. It seeks to force others to alter their consciousness against their own wills. (The "WAR on Drugs" conveniently leaves out alcohol tobacco and pharmaceuticals obtained by a doctor's prescription). The freedom politics Leary talked about allows others to alter their own consciousness according to their own wills (like the Dutch tolerance "coffeeshop" experiment).These political positions color how people relate to others in the community.ego destruction or ego transcendence, that is the question!
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Comment #68 posted by Hope on July 27, 2008 at 16:03:43 PT
I am a woman.
Maybe it's a man thing to rush to fight issues until someone overcomes someone else with violence.I will fight threats.. but I'd like to see a lot less of "fighting to the death" than is happening in the world today... still.Fight to the deathers have wiped out many of us in the past, who only wanted a better, less violent, more peaceful resolution to problems and disagreements. The list is renown.
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Comment #67 posted by FoM on July 27, 2008 at 16:00:15 PT
Had Enough 
It will pass when people get a handle on what we have ahead of us. The future will be hard but we'll be better for it on the other side. 
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Comment #66 posted by FoM on July 27, 2008 at 15:57:59 PT
Interesting link about Emily Post. 
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Comment #65 posted by Had Enough on July 27, 2008 at 15:56:12 PT
Easy Rider - Music…Mr. Bojangles
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Comment #64 posted by FoM on July 27, 2008 at 15:53:55 PT
nuevo mexican
If I wanted to read about Obama's feet being held to the fire I'd turn on Fox News. Go to their forum and share your ideas and it might do some good. 
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Comment #63 posted by Hope on July 27, 2008 at 15:48:53 PT
This seems sweet and old school cool to me...
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Comment #62 posted by Hope on July 27, 2008 at 15:39:00 PT
But yes...
It matters. It matters a lot... it's measured in blood.
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Comment #61 posted by Had Enough on July 27, 2008 at 15:38:15 PT
Being touchy
Hhmmm.I’ve noticed since the last Full Moon, most people have been on edge. I’ve noticed it not only here but in my travels with the daily grind thing, I’ve noticed it at so called ‘social’ functions, and just plain old being out and about.It must be a phase I’m watching…I hope it passes soon.Peace…The world could use a little of that…
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Comment #60 posted by Hope on July 27, 2008 at 15:37:47 PT
"Roll me some salvation
so I can fly away from here.":0)The song I'm listening to."So won't you pass me that bottle..."
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Comment #59 posted by Hope on July 27, 2008 at 15:36:10 PT
It does matter, nuevo mexican
"So it doesn't really matter what he does or doesn't do."Yes. It certainly does. But a lot of power is with him and we are trying to stop as much fighting "to the death" as we can... at least I am. 
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Comment #58 posted by Hope on July 27, 2008 at 15:31:20 PT
Nuevo Mexican 
Perhaps I am touchy today.It does seem that you are bucking perilously close to stomping on my case. Somehow. But perhaps, like your brother, I am being overly defensive. I'm afraid that one of my faults as a person may be my quickness to sense danger and sometimes I'm wrong. (Thank God.)
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Comment #57 posted by nuevo mexican on July 27, 2008 at 15:20:55 PT
Obama would be blamed, when everyone knows..
the bush/cheney crime mafia is behind most, if not all terrorist acts, unless torturing and slaughtering a million people just in one country alone, and more worldwide isn't a terrorist act.So it doesn't really matter what he does or doesn't do.I'm not buying into the meme that people would buy into Obama being to blame. That's a Karl Rove trick, and has worked its' magic, and now, the magic has faded, though he is advising McCain on how to attack Obama now. Just look at Tom Brokaws' interview with him today, Obama answered his set-ups perfectly, and Tom looked like a bush toadie.He will be blamed for everything possible by McInsane though, and we all know it, so 'hope' he fights the smear machine the way John Kerry didn't fight back. Just his expression on his face are disarming, and show he's not afraid of the smear machine, effective as it has been in past elections.Question: when bush nukes Iran after Obama is elected, since he will be in office until Jan. 20th, 2009, we will all just throw up our hands and say, 'who knew'!Who could've predicted such a thing, we all know he just wouldn't do such a thing would he?Notice how Dennis Kucinich always says and does the right thing, and history proves him right the next day, generally.Is he afraid of being blamed for standing up for the Constitution, no, or the Bill of Rights, no.And when do pundits in the news media have any shred of credibility after carrying the ball for bush/cheney all these years. Why defer to them?BTW, who is shouting anyway, I am having a conversation, what we call 'discourse' in a civil society. Why try to shut down someone because they point out the weak spots in a discussion about politics.Point one finger at someone, and there are three pointing back at you.FOM, who here supports McCain, no one I know, I love Obama, just holding his feet to the fire, otherwise, we will get another DLC controlled Democrat who caves in like Pelosi, whos' husband will be attending this years Bohemian Grove affair, along with George Bush, and most of the congress-critters who have failed to do live up to their oath of office.A must read, though you don't have to!Treason and Conspiracy: How Bush and his 'Material Supporters' Betrayed the Nation!
treason-and-conspiracy-how-bush-and-his.htmlBush's war of aggression against the people of Iraq was an act terrorism --even under US law. It was, moreover, a violation of US Codes, Title 18, Section 2441!  (a) Offense.— Whoever, whether inside or outside the United States, commits a war crime, in any of the circumstances described in subsection (b), shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for life or any term of years, or both, and if death results to the victim, shall also be subject to the penalty of death.  --TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 118 > § 2441
  § 2441. War crimesWhere is the lack of respect you speak of, I don't talk down to you Hope, I treat you as an equal, with your obvious ability to defend your points, without triangulation into name-calling.My Republican brothers favorite technique, btw.(Unless this isn't directed towards me....and towards John Kay of Steppenwolf, the man who would shape my opinions of the world as a 14 year old. 'I'm more inclined to listen to, and cooperate, if necessary, with the person who speaks respectfully to me.Don't shout at me. Don't threaten me. Don't belittle me. Don't mock me. Treat me with respect if you want me to listen to you.You know who you are.'Gee whiz!I respect everyones right to disagree, and will defend to the death your right to your opinion, and was raised in an environment where that was always the bottom line.Peace!
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Comment #56 posted by FoM on July 27, 2008 at 15:11:21 PT
I know what you mean. 
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Comment #55 posted by Hope on July 27, 2008 at 15:08:15 PT
Some things
you're just better off knowing.
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Comment #54 posted by Hope on July 27, 2008 at 15:06:57 PT
Very, very interesting. Very...
"Pot Compound Enhances Efficacy Of Anti-Cancer Agents, Study Says"
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Comment #53 posted by Hope on July 27, 2008 at 15:03:58 PT
Other books of another age...
I learned to defend myself with nothing but a towel if I was ever backed into a laundry room by a knife wielding assailant.
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Comment #52 posted by FoM on July 27, 2008 at 14:58:12 PT
About Emily me either! LOL!
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Comment #51 posted by FoM on July 27, 2008 at 14:57:31 PT
Very nice. He is a special person. He lives in the moment but also dreams and goes forward to achieve different things because he can. He isn't afraid of failure and that keeps it all real. He doesn't squander but embraces his gift. That's good advice for all of us.
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Comment #50 posted by Hope on July 27, 2008 at 14:57:26 PT
Thanks to emily and others...
I have never, ever, been intimidated by a place setting.:0)
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Comment #49 posted by Hope on July 27, 2008 at 14:54:17 PT
Emily Post's Book of Etiquette. I had my own personal copy. I don't remember how I came about having it... gift or purchase... but I had one. It's was green cloth bound, as I recall, with gold scrolling on the cover.Seems like the word "Etiquette" was bigger and more beautifully scrolled than the rest of the title.We didn't always follow Emily's instructions and advice... but we considered them.Thinking about it, I think my grandmother may have presented me with that volume when I was about fourteen.It was nearly as big as "Gone With The Wind".
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Comment #48 posted by Hope on July 27, 2008 at 14:47:23 PT
Crutches and wheel chairs and things...
Some of us are weak and some of us are strong. Physical, intellectual, character, spiritual, educational, self-control, emotional, and mental weakness on many different levels, is a reality of life on earth today. That's the reality of it.Neil Young has proven himself to be one of the very strong, in many ways, among us.Even more than that, that he, Mr. Neil Young, has proven himself to be very, very strong... is that he cares for the very weak and vulnerable.I really respect that about him.You have to hear what he is saying... on some level, somewhere, somehow. How amazing is that?
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Comment #47 posted by FoM on July 27, 2008 at 14:46:09 PT

Check out what I read (since I didn't read much) when I was in my teens and of my own free will. LOL!
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Comment #46 posted by Hope on July 27, 2008 at 14:33:52 PT

To quote Ms. Aretha Franklin...
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Comment #45 posted by FoM on July 27, 2008 at 13:55:57 PT

One more thing. You and I have different views about some things but we don't push anything on each other. I respect you for who you are and how you feel about issues even if they aren't 100% of my views. That is so darn important to a successful community and actually even a good home life too.
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Comment #44 posted by FoM on July 27, 2008 at 13:52:32 PT

That is exactly how I feel. Respect what a nice word. 
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Comment #43 posted by Hope on July 27, 2008 at 13:44:11 PT

"Obnoxious and self-righteous"
I'm more inclined to listen to, and cooperate, if necessary, with the person who speaks respectfully to me. Don't shout at me. Don't threaten me. Don't belittle me. Don't mock me. Treat me with respect if you want me to listen to you.You know who you are.
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Comment #42 posted by FoM on July 27, 2008 at 12:42:53 PT

McCain vs Obama
I wanted to add one more thng. Anyone who supports McCain can post why they do. I would like to see what his qualities are to be our next President. So this isn't an Obama only web site. I believe the qualities of these two men are many. I have nothing against McCain. I look at them realistically as people who have aspired to the most powerful position in the USA. They both must be exhausted. That's all.
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Comment #41 posted by FoM on July 27, 2008 at 11:52:12 PT

nuevo mexican
This whole FISA issue shows me a lot about how things are. On MSNBC after complaining about Obama's stand they said you know something if Obama had done differently and we had another terrorist attack before elections he would be blamed. Obama is a politician and he knows when to move. 
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Comment #40 posted by FoM on July 27, 2008 at 11:24:51 PT

nuevo mexican 
You said: Look at the ulcers politics in this country have given FOM.I say it isn't politics because they have been so exciting and hopeful but people trying to push anyone else on me has done me in physically. When people become obnoxious and self righteous I have no use for them. I don't live in a world of fear. That's just existing not living until it's time to die. I finally had to take charge or I was going to retire CNews. Hope knows that all too well from my e-mails to her.
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Comment #39 posted by nuevo mexican on July 27, 2008 at 11:20:52 PT

My sister said the same thing, 
and it's because people support bush and cheney here, still, out of fear of the 'terrorists', and she's right.The biggest war criminals in history run our country, and it's okay, we haven't had any accountability since Carter, and look where that got him, a stolen election by Reagan, who had the CIA sabatoge the rescue mission to he could steal the election, with the media in tow, and the rest is history. Sad times, sad people.Thanks for the youtube video had enough!
Made my day, though I don't expect many here to get it, or even watch it, as I used to assume they might, and you know what assuming does! LOL!How Should the Next President Deal with the Bush White House's Crimes?Well, you know, it's one thing to defend Senator Obama and to support his candidacy, as I do. It's another thing to just make factually false claims in order to justify or rationalize anything that he does.The idea that this wasn't a reversal is just insultingly false. Back in December, Senator Obama was asked, "What is your position on Senator Dodd's pledge to filibuster a bill that contains retroactive immunity?" And at first, Senator Obama issued an equivocal statement, and there were demands that he issue a clearer statement. His campaign spokesman said -- and I quote -- "Senator Obama will support a filibuster of any bill that contains retroactive immunity" -- "any bill that contains retroactive immunity." The bill before the Senate two weeks ago contained retroactive immunity, by everybody's account, and yet not only did Senator Obama not adhere to his pledge to support a filibuster of that bill, he voted for closure on the bill, which is the opposite of a filibuster. It's what enables a vote to occur. And then he voted for the underlying bill itself. So it's a complete betrayal of the very unequivocal commitment that he made not more than six months ago in response to people who wanted to know his position on this issue in order to decide whether or not to vote for him. That's number one. Please read the rest of the story, if you don't, then you don't really care what happens here in 'murka.I wasn't insulting anyone other than the sheeple who hide their head in the sand, so be it.
I'm might be insulted, though I'm not, that you thought I was insulting your intelligence, to each his own.
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Comment #38 posted by museman on July 27, 2008 at 09:54:37 PT

"How wrong is it to knock the crutches out from under people who need them?"In the original aspect of what 'crutches' are intended for it is cruel and inhuman to even think about it. However as is often obvious in prohibition stances, there are 'crutches' that are used to 'support' crippled perspectives. And though they claim their 'pain' at having other people do things against their moral judgement and assumed authority is 'real,' as is evidenced on another thread in some lame attempts to justify the narrow scope of modern science, compared to the experiential knowledge of entire cultures and peoples as 'supreme' and 'the authority on all things' ...the kind of crutches that support error and lies, need to be 'knocked out from under' them now and then, just so they can see whose feet they are really standing on.The crutches in the connotative sense as meant by the prohibs, actually pertains more in actuality to their 'need' to prop up their BS than it applies to any persons need for medical assistance. This is a perfect example of doublespeak -used quite often by posers who think to try and monkeywrench our solidairty with their psuedo 'logic' and 'reason.'Take the truth and mold it to fit your image. Some people call that 'science' I call it the creation of a lie.
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Comment #37 posted by fight_4_freedom on July 27, 2008 at 09:47:38 PT:

Speaking of Robin is mentioned in one of these MPP videos.snip from the new MPP Blog: The Human Cost of Marijuana Prohibitionby John BerryMPP just released a new documentary examining the effects of marijuana prohibition on people’s lives. The piece looks at four stories (including our own Rob Kampia’s) as examples of how marijuana prohibition and its consequences impact the lives of a diverse group of Americans and their families.We’ve split the video up into two parts, which are available on the MPP-TV video blog: Part 1 and Part 2. This is powerful stuff, and we hope you’ll watch and share it with friends.And Hope, that is an excellent comparison you just made. 
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Comment #36 posted by Hope on July 27, 2008 at 09:35:42 PT

How wrong is it to knock the crutches out from under people who need them?How wrong is that?What hideous harm would have been LIKELY (not wildly imagined) had Robin Prosser been allowed to use the crutch that helped her walk?Crutches are not bad things. It's certainly not the best of all world's to need one... but it's a lifesaver when it does what it's designed to do... help you live better. Crutches can be very, very helpful. I don't want to need one... ever... but they can be what a person may need from time to time, or always, to keep on going... to keep on living.How dare some people get so pissed off at other's over their use of a crutch? How dare they decide that other person doesn't need that perceived "crutch", and literally knock it out from under them? How is that right? 
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Comment #35 posted by Hope on July 27, 2008 at 09:25:17 PT

I respect the will of individuals...
I think it's very important.I do not respect those who would force others to bend to their will, and especially with violence.You can try to get me to see your point of view with conversation and reason, and I can respect that. When you pull a gun on me and threaten to kill me or bind my hands and lock me up if I don't see it your way as concerns what I or others wish to consume, as long as it's not other people or their property that they didn't wish consumed... then something is very wrong and it's even more astounding how so called "good people" can be so completely blind to that fact.
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Comment #34 posted by FoM on July 27, 2008 at 09:22:33 PT

Thank you. I don't watch science fiction movies so I have only heard the name. 
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Comment #33 posted by Hope on July 27, 2008 at 09:17:27 PT

"Death is not the goal"... but to change the direction of those that would harm others, indiscriminately and viciously, in their arrogant, blind, and misbegotten zeal to control the very personal choices of foods, herbs, doping (stimulants, calmatives, sleep inducers, appetitite stimulants, doping in "as to make stronger, better, even temporarily"... whatevers), crutches, and medicines of others against their will. 
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Comment #32 posted by Hope on July 27, 2008 at 09:00:07 PT

"A thousand cuts"
speaks far more eloquently to the situation than the chihuahua comparison.Thanks, Afterburner.
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Comment #31 posted by afterburner on July 27, 2008 at 08:55:58 PT

Death by a Thousand Chihuahuas 
Hope #27: "(I'm counting on at least forty chihuahuas per leg of legislator or prohibitionist)"Your poetic imagery made me think of the Chinese "death by a thousand cuts." All the "leg chihuahuas" all over the country, the Internet, the world bring a new image to our struggle for truth justice and the American way. (Liberty fraternity and equality from our French brothers and sisters, who so admired the American Revolution and gave us the Statue of Liberty in thanks for our help in the French Revolution). FoM, The Matrix is a movie trilogy about awakening from a media-controlled "reality" to true reality.
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Comment #30 posted by Had Enough on July 27, 2008 at 07:48:01 PT

Steppenwolf’s Monster
is a work of genius…and all their other tunes too…Thanks nuevo mexican… one…

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Comment #29 posted by Hope on July 27, 2008 at 07:37:50 PT


New Orleans: District Attorney Charging Minor Pot Offenders With Felonies 
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Comment #28 posted by Hope on July 27, 2008 at 07:32:29 PT

Couldn't resist a chuckle of understanding,
at FoM's comment, "I don't know if you are insulting us or not."I do understand Nuevo Mexican's anger and frustration, though. I sure understand, ""Mayer remembered one top Justice Department lawyer and “very conservative member of this administration” who said that after participating in White House meetings authorizing torture, he believed that “lunatics had taken over the country.”"Everyone of us here has spoken out against injustice. This web site is speaking out against injustice. There are people out there, Nuevo Mexican, obviously that follow blindly even after they become adults and always do as they're told and never give anything a real thought... even as adults, but the people who read C-News are the exact opposite of what you refer to as "Sheeple", so I hope your dismissive , "Sheeple", thing was just an expletive at the situation and not actually directed at C-Newers.Personally, as far as I'm concerned, you can call me a "leg biting chihuahua" as a reference to my individual power if you like, (I'm counting on at least forty chihuahuas per leg of legislator or prohibitionist), ...but i'm, all of here, are way too fussy and agitated and courageous in the face of a larger than life enemy, to be "Sheeple". Our little bite is not deadly,nor is anyone of us alone likely to bring down a dangerous predator, but we intend to raise as much hell as possible about that predator, and there are enough of us with enough determination not to be ignored. Remember that nationwide story a few years ago about the chihuahua that stood between a small child and an agitated rattlesnake until help arrived? Because of his frantic alarm... not because the child was able to say, "There's a rattlesnake", the day and the child were saved. To my great relief and joy, I have actually seen a chihuahua send a very surprised and alarmed Doberman hightailing it to a "safer" place. Seeing that happen inspired me to think that even the little ones among us can do something. Yes, Dobermans can eat chihuahuas alive...but it doesn't always go that way.I'm using these animals, chihuahuas, Dobermans, and snakes as figurative bearers of certain characteristics. We are all people... through and through... but the character in general of C-Newers is not reminiscent of sheep at all.If the Bush impeachment is the battle you choose... go for it. Don't call us sheeple though and I hope you, our friend, are not thinking so poorly of us, your allies. C-Newsers aren't the sheeple, the half sheep, half people, you refer to.
We're full fledged people... and our characteristics don't match those of sheep like people. 
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Comment #27 posted by FoM on July 27, 2008 at 06:33:52 PT

nuevo mexican
I don't know anyone who is afraid of Bush or Cheney. I don't know what a Matrix is so I don't know if you are insulting us or not. I don't give them the time of day. They will be gone soon. I bought a couple CDs this past week and one is CSNY called Looking Forward. Looking back doesn't help guide our future but looking forward does. History will record them just like it has with politicians in the past. 
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Comment #26 posted by nuevo mexican on July 26, 2008 at 21:56:20 PT

Couldn't resist! 'Monster' is a work of genius....
Words and music by John Kay, Jerry Edmonton, Nick St. Nicholas and Larry Byrom(Monster)
Once the religious, the hunted and weary
Chasing the promise of freedom and hope
Came to this country to build a new vision
Far from the reaches of kingdom and pope
Like good Christians, some would burn the witches
Later some got slaves to gather richesBut still from near and far to seek America
They came by thousands to court the wild
And she just patiently smiled and bore a child
To be their spirit and guiding lightAnd once the ties with the crown had been broken
Westward in saddle and wagon it went
And 'til the railroad linked ocean to ocean
Many the lives which had come to an end
While we bullied, stole and bought our a homeland
We began the slaughter of the red manBut still from near and far to seek America
They came by thousands to court the wild
And she just patiently smiled and bore a child
To be their spirit and guiding lightThe blue and grey they stomped it
They kicked it just like a dog
And when the war over
They stuffed it just like a hogAnd though the past has it's share of injustice
Kind was the spirit in many a way
But it's protectors and friends have been sleeping
Now it's a monster and will not obey(Suicide)
The spirit was freedom and justice
And it's keepers seem generous and kind
It's leaders were supposed to serve the country
But now they won't pay it no mind
'Cause the people grew fat and got lazy
And now their vote is a meaningless joke
They babble about law and order
But it's all just an echo of what they've been told
Yeah, there's a monster on the loose
It's got our heads into a noose
And it just sits there watchin'Our cities have turned into jungles
And corruption is stranglin' the land
The police force is watching the people
And the people just can't understand
We don't know how to mind our own business
'Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
Now we are fighting a war over there
No matter who's the winner
We can't pay the cost
'Cause there's a monster on the loose
It's got our heads into a noose
And it just sits there watching(America)
America where are you now?
Don't you care about your sons and daughters?
Don't you know we need you now
We can't fight alone against the monster© Copyright MCA Music (BMI)
All rights for the USA controlled and administered by
MCA Corporation of America, INCAnd this was written back in 1968, look how far we've come!
Wanna debate the truth and merits of these lyrics?
Bring it on, as our 'fearless leader' bush would say.
Notice how these guys seem to already know they can and will get away with everything and anything, knowing Pelosi and Reid and the criminaly complicite media will do their bidding, and 'murkans will go along and get along, little doggies!
They KNOW they will not be stopped, and thus, they swagger, rape and pillage, and all cower in fear, like innocent families in Iraq being slaughtered daily, and we don't even talk about the war anymore.Sheeple!
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Comment #25 posted by nuevo mexican on July 26, 2008 at 21:39:18 PT

OT: The Dems are afraid of bush and cheney.....
and cheney is already the defacto preznit, what would change?
The image of bush as your friendly beer drinking buddy, the mask of darth cheney, has worked its magic and the bloom is off the rose at this point.
A large majority of people would impeach cheney is a hot second, as he looks as evil as he is, whereas bushes smirk allows him to get away with murder. No one wants to hurt his feelings, as anyone with eyes can see.What's with some of you people, afraid of standing up for your fellow countrymen out of fear, and 'what ifs'.If the founding fathers had the same attitude, we would never have had a Constitution, or Bill of Rights.I thought the level of intelligence for Cannabists' was 'higher'. Guess the ones I know have escaped the Matrix.
Vaporization seems to bring clarity, whereas smoking seems to bring obfuscation and cloudyness, at least for me, and those who medicate with vaporizers appear have a much greater ability to stay focused. Veterans with PTSD have made this clear to me, nothing against 'smoking' though this is what I have found.Maybe seeing the new movie 'the Dark Knight' would do some good. The only thing we have to fear is fear itself, at least in the world I choose to live in.
V for Vendetta is highly recommended.Perhaps this is why you are fearful, though it's no excuse for our lack of action, and with Nancy Pelosi taking impeachment of the table, I'd like to see her tried for complicity, as well as most of the democratic party enablers, Harry Reid, and the rest:DOJ Lawyers: "Lunatics Had Taken Over The Country" They Feared Cheney & Feared For Their Lives
Mayer: Top DOJ Lawyers Spoke ‘In Codes’ For Fear Of Being Wiretapped By White House ‘Lunatics’
Last night on PBS, Bill Moyers interviewed investigative journalist Jane Mayer and mentioned that in Mayer’s new book, she notes that FBI agents refused to participate in the CIA’s interrogation of terror suspects at Guantánamo Bay because they determined it to be “borderline torture.” Moyers then asked, “Who were some of the other conservative heroes, as you call them, in your book?”Mayer remembered one top Justice Department lawyer and “very conservative member of this administration” who said that after participating in White House meetings authorizing torture, he believed that “lunatics had taken over the country.”Mayer said two other top DOJ lawyers had to develop a system of speaking codes because they feared they were being wiretapped while others described an “atmosphere of intimidation,” mainly from Vice President Dick Cheney:MAYER: There was such an atmosphere of intimidation. … They felt so endangered in some ways that, at one point, two of the top lawyers from the Justice Department developed this system of talking in codes to each other because they thought they might be being wiretapped…by their own government. They felt like they might be kind of weirdly in physical danger. They were actually scared to stand up to Vice President Cheney
az=view_all&address=389x3680321VIDEO & more at: posts report the sick story of a Cannabis user being murdered, so at this point, does anyone have anything to lose, except for their minds and sanity. The whole world looks on an wonders what happened to America and it's citizens, and now they know!Look at the ulcers politics in this country have given FOM.She has paid a heavy price, as have we all. And 4,000 troops, and a million Iraqis. But who cares?You really have to listen to the song itself to get the 
full effect, I recommend 'Monster' as well!
I've posted both of these here a few times already.The Ostrich/ by Steppenwolf and music by John KayWe'll call you when you're six years old
And drag you to the factory
To train your brain for eighteen years
With promise of security
But then you're free
And forty years you waste to
chase the dollar sign
So you may die in Florida
At the pleasant age of sixty nineThe water's getting hard to drink
We've mangled up the country side
The air will choke you when you breathe
We're all committing suicide
But it's alright
It's progress folks keep
pushin' till your body rots
Will strip the earth of all it's green
And then divide her into parking lotsBut there's nothing you and I can do
You and I are only two
What's right and wrong is hard to say
Forget about it for today
We'll stick our heads into the sand
Just pretend that all is grand
Then hope that everything turns out okYou're free to speak your mind my friend
As long as you agree with me
Don't criticize the father land
Or those who shape your destiny
'Cause if you do
You'll lose your job your mind and
all the friends you knew
We'll send out all our boys in blue
They'll find a way to silence youBut there's nothing you and I can do
You and I are only two
What's right and wrong is hard to say
Forget about it for today
We'll stick our heads into the sand
Just pretend that all is grand
Then hope that everything turns out ok© Copyright MCA Music (BMI)
All rights for the USA
controlled and administered by
MCA Corporation of America, INC
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Comment #24 posted by Hope on July 26, 2008 at 20:22:22 PT

Impeaching Bush
means Vice President Cheney would be President. Sounds like the best reason in the world to endure Bush a few more days.
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Comment #23 posted by nuevo mexican on July 26, 2008 at 17:22:16 PT

Cheney had me ticketed......
years ago for wearing a Cheney mask, so that's not why, just didn't want anyone else getting on FOM's case like it may appear I did. LOL! I love her like you do, and everyone here!
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Comment #22 posted by ekim on July 26, 2008 at 17:20:51 PT

i must mention Pete's site
the 20-20- story i posted was from
Pete does wonderful work.
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Comment #21 posted by Hope on July 26, 2008 at 15:56:11 PT

nuevo mexican 
Dick Cheney.
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Comment #20 posted by FoM on July 26, 2008 at 12:15:36 PT

nuevo mexican
You're the best too. I have been only taking Pepcid at night now and no Prilosec unless I start feeling the pain coming back. I have been battling a skin rash on my forehead and I know because of being sick so long I am run down. That's why I said I am tired. I haven't been back to a doctor since I went to a walk in clinic. I really want to get over this soon. I can't take vitamins. They make me feel sick too. The prayer was really beautiful. It really shouldn't have been published but since it was it was nice to read. Thank you.Thank you for the prayers too.
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Comment #19 posted by nuevo mexican on July 26, 2008 at 12:05:02 PT

You're the best FOM!
My family is known for having ulcers, so my heart goes out to you, and the LAST thing I choose is for you to suffer more stress, thanks for reminding me, I do remember you saying so a while back, thus, I took a break from posting, since I can go off on a tangent with just a little help from the outside world.
My sister says antibiotics help with the viral nature of ulcers, I'm sure you're doing what you can. Colodial silver is amazing, if you haven't tried it yet, it WILL work.
Looking forward to your healing, easily, happily and quickly!
You can make it yourself, if you buy the machine, or buy it easily at a health food store.
Drinkable Aloe Vera extract does wonders too!Let me know if you have tried it, a client used it for an infection of the uterus, she got her tests back yesterday, and it is now gone.We're putting you in our healing circle, so get ready to feel better, I am here today due to the prayers of my family, friends, and a lot of Mom's faithful.Did you hear about Obamas' prayers at the Wall in Israel being published by an Israeli newspaper? Unbelievable!
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Comment #18 posted by FoM on July 26, 2008 at 08:29:20 PT

nuevo mexican
Why do you want me to remove your posts? You are upset and that's fine. Just because our focus is different doesn't mean you or I are right. Both points have merit in my opinion.PS: I probably won't check it out. I have been very sick for many months and one of things I must do is watch what I read or watch on tv. I have an ulcer from being so high strung and this whole election has me really keyed up. I hope you understand.
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Comment #17 posted by nuevo mexican on July 26, 2008 at 08:21:56 PT

Can you remove my post s FOM?
Thanks, I've had too many people say the same thing 'back here', I just don't get it. Hope you watch it when you have a chance, the best day we've had in 8 years of 'torture' by the thugs who would destroy the planet, and seek to incarcerate, maim and murder those who resist.
Thanks again for being there!
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Comment #16 posted by FoM on July 26, 2008 at 05:53:03 PT

Off Topic: US News & World Report
Two Takes: Drugs Are Too Dangerous Not to Regulate—We Should Legalize Them***Two Takes: Drugs Are a Major Social Problem, We Cannot Legalize Them***Public Opinion: Should the United States Legalize Drugs?
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Comment #15 posted by fight_4_freedom on July 25, 2008 at 19:46:32 PT:

What a sad, unfortunate story that is.
Young, beautiful, fun-loving, peaceful cannabis consumer manipulated into getting involved in a deadly situation. All for what? A little weed and a couple of pills. What a horrible story. I'm glad that this story is actually getting some attention though. And they made the police department look like jack#sses. Although they deserve a lot more than that.All over some God-given herb. What a tragedy. 
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Comment #14 posted by FoM on July 25, 2008 at 19:40:35 PT

Thank you. We watched up until we knew what her end was going to be. That's about all we can handle watching. 
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Comment #13 posted by paul armentano on July 25, 2008 at 16:37:06 PT

The tragedy that is pot prohibition
Rachel Hoffman is dead.Rachel Hoffman, like many young adults, occasionally smoked marijuana.But Rachel Hoffman is not dead as a result of smoking marijuana; she is dead as a result of marijuana prohibition.Under prohibition, Rachel faced up to five years in prison for possessing a small amount of marijuana. Under prohibition, the police in Rachel’s community viewed her as nothing more than a common “criminal,” and threatened her with years in jail unless she cooperated with them as an untrained, unsupervised confidential informant.Under prohibition, the law enforcement officers responsible for placing Rachel in the very situation that resulted in her murder have failed to publicly express any remorse — because, after all, under prohibition Rachel Hoffman was no longer a human being deserving of such sympathies.Tonight, ABC’s 20/20 will shed a national spotlight on the tragedy surrounding Rachel Hoffman’s untimely death — and the tragedy that is marijuana prohibition.
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Comment #12 posted by paul armentano on July 25, 2008 at 14:48:56 PT

20/20: Life and Death of Rachel Hoffman TONIGHT

Are Pot Users Criminals? The Tragic Case of Rachel Hoffman
Friends Say She Had to Choose: Go to Prison or Work as an InformantBy BRIAN ROSS and VIC WALTER
July 24, 2008—After being caught twice with a "baggie" of marijuana, 23-year old Rachel Hoffman was reportedly told by police in Tallahassee, Florida that she would go to prison for four years unless she became an undercover informant.The young woman, a recent graduate of Florida State University, was murdered during a botched sting operation two months ago.Her case will be profiled Friday on 20/20."The idea of waging a war on drugs is to protect people and here it seems like we're putting people in harm's way," said Lance Block, a lawyer hired by Rachel's parents.The Florida Attorney General's office says it is reviewing the procedures and protocol of the Tallahassee police.Rachel's case also has raised new questions about state and federal laws related to marijuana possession."I'm calling her a criminal," Tallahassee police chief Dennis Jones told 20/20, who maintains that both drug dealers and drug users are considered criminals to his department.Under Florida law, possession of more than 20 grams of marijuana is a felony.Rachel was also found in possession of two ecstasy pills, a felony under Florida law no matter the quantity because it "has a high potential for abuse and has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States."The Tallahassee police chief says Rachel was suspected of selling drugs and she was rightly treated as a criminal."That's my job as a police chief to find these criminals in our community and take them off the street, to make the proper arrests," Jones told 20/20.Rachel's case also is raising questions about how police recruit and use informants in undercover operations."There need to be some safeguards here," said Block, the Hoffman family lawyer.The young woman received no training before being sent to an undercover meeting to buy a large amount of drugs and a handgun from two suspects.Police says Rachel was killed by the very handgun she was supposed to buy."I don't think she understood the risk or danger that she was in," said Block.Rachel was in a drug court diversion program when she became an informant.Watch the story Friday on "20/20" at 10 p.m. ETClick Here for the Investigative Homepage.Copyright © 2008 ABC News Internet Ventures
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Comment #11 posted by ekim on July 25, 2008 at 14:11:42 PT

tonight 20-20 ABC
Rachel Hoffman continues to fail to dieNational Media Interest 'Intense' Over Hoffman Case"Other officers around the country that see this story when '20/20' runs it - as well as the jurisdictions around Tallahassee that have seen the coverage already - are going to see what happened there and ask why.
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Comment #10 posted by FoM on July 25, 2008 at 12:36:35 PT

nuevo mexican 
Maybe I am tired but that's ok. It happens to everyone from time to time. I haven't given up on you either. I hope you and your Mother are having a good visit. 
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Comment #9 posted by nuevo mexican on July 25, 2008 at 12:02:14 PT

We don't have time NOT to impeach bush....
and where do you get your information?
100 days is enough time for bush to nuke Iran, do you think he won't? Yes, you might be asleep, and I'd like to wake you up.
Neil Young would like you to impeach bush, and you still think 
it's too late.
It's too late only if we don't.
Please read the links, the one especially, and then get back to me, using your intuition is great, information and facts are what are needed now.Thanks for the conversation, I'm not giving up on you, and never will.

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Comment #8 posted by FoM on July 25, 2008 at 10:43:19 PT

nuevo mexican 
I hope I'm not asleep. We don't have time to Impeach Bush. We're about a 100 days from the election. In life there are many things we should do but time limits what we put our energy in. You and I just see things a little differently that's all. If an Impeachment would have been successful it would have needed to be done after we knew there were no WMDs and it didn't happen. Time controls us.
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Comment #7 posted by nuevo mexican on July 25, 2008 at 10:18:41 PT

The people are asleep,Obama is prozac for the left
Even you aren't interested in the most important event in the history of America.
what gives?BTW, the word Hope is weak, hope is just 'hope' with no outcome.Choose to CLAIM peace and justice, and it will be so, and speak truth to power, like you always have.C-News is evidence of that, yet we don't live in a Cannabis bubble. It would be nice, yet it's not gonna happen, it's bushes buzzkill. Anyone getting 'high' lately? NOT!Thanks for your sympathies though, Mom just wants out of bushworld, and know 'murkans don't give a shit about the constitution or bill of rights, just soap operas, brittney spears, and the distracting and profound effects of global warming on our soporific mid-western lives.Even the Huffingtonpost refuses to cover it, and is deleting references to the hearing. a REALLY bad sign, and those who think Obama will not have the election stolen from him will mark my words, it's is guaranteed! The media will make sure it happens, landslide or not, as we do NOT live in a democracy, to see what I mean, read; has the story on how Rove stole the election, are you willing to read it?Rove Threatened GOP IT Guru If He Does Not 'Take the Fall' for Election Fraud in Ohio, Says Attorney
Letter Sent to Attorney General Mukasey Requesting 'Protection for Mr. Connell and His Family From This Reported Attempt to Intimidate a Witness' After Tip from 'Credible Source' Young: 'Impeach the President for lying'
letsimpeachthepresident.html"Let's Impeach The President"Let's impeach the President for lying
And misleading our country into war
Abusing all the power that we gave him
And shipping all our money out the doorWho's the man who hired all the criminals
The White House shadows who hide behind closed doors
They bend the facts to fit with their new stories
Of why we have to send our men to warLet's impeach the President for spying
On citizens inside their own homes
Breaking every law in the country
By tapping our computers and telephonesWhat if Al Qaeda blew up the levees
Would New Orleans have been safer that way
Sheltered by our government's protection
Or was someone just not home that day?Flip - Flop
Flip - Flop
Flip - Flop
Flip - FlopLet's impeach the president for hijacking
Our religion and using it to get elected
Dividing our country into colors
And still leaving black people neglectedThank god he's cracking down on steroids
Since he sold his old baseball team
There's lots of people looking at big trouble
But of course our president is clean.Thank GodWatch the rerun of the hearings then,at your leisure, and see what you're missing.I regret your choices are to stick your head into the sand, Crosby, stills Nash and YOUNG would want you to witness this event live. 
Is everyone in the midwest over-medicated by Eli Lilly or what.
Wanna know what Nazi Germany was like, it was like this,
no one cares, no one thinks it matters, and no one thinks they matter, cause in bushworld, where torture is used widely, the goal is to make us all fear we will be tortured, and thus, the deafening roar of the .......crickets.This is torture, where no one thinks it matters if the president sends us to war to kill a million Iraqis, and no one is brave enough, except Dennis Kucinich, to hold them accountable, not even John Conyers.My sister-in-law, an ex-republican, became a super Democrat, got disgusted with their inaction, passed away last week, and couldn't be happier, as the world back here is sooooo depressing, the killing spree in Indy is out of control, and no one EVER talks about the reason why, and gun control NEVER comes up in the news, just more death, and mayhem to lead the news.The way bushworld likes it, as they are in the burial business, and death is soooo profitable.
Shame on us all!
A Nation of Lemmings I grant that our corporate media, ever focused laser-like on
important stories like Britney Spears’ return to the stage and on the
latest gaffe of one or the other presidential candidate, have not been
very interested in alerting the masses to these disasters now in
progress that could end humanity’s run on the planet (along with
exterminating most of the rest of the life on the planet too). But that
said, at this point everyone has surely heard enough, and witnessed
enough in person of the dramatic changes taking place in the earth’s
climate, to know that something scary is going on.And yet, people are not just going about their business as
usual—they are actually, for the most part, complaining not about the
lack of highly energy-efficient transportation, the lack of alternative
and less energy-wasting public transit, and the lack of government
funding for a crash program into researching carbon-free energy
solutions, but rather about the high price for carbon fuels. People are
clamoring for solutions to make gasoline cheaper!Good article, still depressing.nuff said!Don't mean to ruin anyones day, but the last 8 years of our lives have been reduced us all to cowards, and I Choose to Claim that I am NOT!
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Comment #6 posted by FoM on July 25, 2008 at 09:17:15 PT

nuevo mexican
I'm sorry to read that you had to go home because of your Mother. I'll keep you and her in my prayers. As far as watching TV I'm not today. I'm listening to CSNY today and getting into that frame of mind. The direction we took when we had a choice back when we went to war in Iraq will forever change our country. When we come to a fork in the road the direction we go will determine our future. I see where we are going. I still have hope though. I will always have hope.
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Comment #5 posted by nuevo mexican on July 25, 2008 at 08:55:35 PT

OT: Non-impeachment Impeachment hearings now!
Are you watching FOM!Back home in Indiana, taking care of my 87 year old mom, who is born Oct. 8th, same day as Dennis Kucinich, and the hearings are on C-span, THIS is our only hope for accountability, spread the word!Even the 'liberal' blogs aren't covering it, the DLC must have sent out marching orders, 'there will be no impeachment'. Crickets.......Disgusting, there is no hope but for all to fail, the economy, the endless, criminal war, nazi-like, oil profits that pay off the Dems for their silence, no civil rights or liberties, unlimited powers to spy and incerate, torture, and kill, and the blogs go hmmmmmmm..........Great day for Dennis, activists like us, and the Democratic Party sits on their hands, while the blogs snooze, NOT a good sign.And listen to the Repugs defend bush, and substitute them for Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, who would say the same thing, and have, and where are the thousands of pro-impeachment supporters? America is brain-dead, Obama is nice, though he better have Dennis as V.P. for his protection, as the man they really fear is Dennis, and Dennis only. And he's from YOUR state FOM! Got Passport?
Hello Ex-pats! Looking forward to hanging out with you all!As Bill O'reilly says: effing things SUCKS!
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Comment #4 posted by afterburner on July 24, 2008 at 22:46:42 PT

Paul, Speaking of OpposingViews
Can You Trust Chemotherapy to Cure Your Cancer? 
Wednesday, July 23, 2008 by: Andreas Moritz (see all articles by this author)
| Key concepts: chemotherapy, cancer and colon cancer {
Many doctors go as far as prescribing chemotherapy drugs to patients for malignancies that are far too advanced for surgery, with the full knowledge that there are no benefits at all. Yet they claim chemotherapy to be an effective cancer treatment, and their unsuspecting patients believe that "effective" equals "cure." The doctors, of course, refer to the FDA's definition of an "effective" drug, one which achieves a 50% or more reduction in tumor size for 28 days. They neglect to tell their patients that there is no correlation whatsoever between shrinking tumors for 28 days and curing the cancer or extending life. Temporary tumor shrinkage through chemotherapy has never been shown to cure cancer or to extend life. In other words, you can live with an untreated tumor for just as long as you would with one that has been shrunken or been eliminated by chemotherapy (or radiation).
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Comment #3 posted by FoM on July 24, 2008 at 19:19:57 PT

John Tyler
Thank you. We don't have any bookstores close. I've had good luck buying from Amazon. I checked and their price hasn't dropped that low yet. One of these days I will get to see it. I got the 3 cds I just bought for about $30. They don't charge for shipping if the order is over $25.
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Comment #2 posted by John Tyler on July 24, 2008 at 18:08:31 PT

OT “Across the Universe“
If you are interested, the DVD of “Across the Universe“ is on sale now at Borders bookstore for $9.99, marked down from $29.99. It is a two DVD set with lots of extra scenes that were not in the movie.  
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Comment #1 posted by paul armentano on July 24, 2008 at 15:47:30 PT

Us v Them:
A new website launched today will likely be of interest to reformers. The
website:http://www.opposingviews.comgives us the opportunity to publicly debate (in writing, at least) many of the opponents who refuse to engage us in other forums (Think Kevin Sabet, Scott Burns et al.).Already, the website features several back-and-forth debates pertaining to
the drug war issue. You be the judge as to who's telling the truth and who isn't.Should the U.S. Legalize Marijuana? (NORML vs David Evans) Medical Marijuana be Federally Legalized? (MPP/ASA vs Eric Voth/DFAF) the U.S. Continue its War on Drugs? (David Evans vs DPA/LNC) can post comments, and experts can post "objections" to our
opponents' fallacious arguments. I encourage everyone to check out the site
and participate. Also, I'm please to say that folks are already taking notice, as indicated by this nice write-up today in the Washington Post: Views Launches As A Debate Site Where Experts Go Head-To-Head
Erick Schonfeld
Tuesday, July 22, 2008; 11:01 PMGetting average know-nothings to create content for your site is easy enough and well understood by now. But how do you get experts to create in-depth topic pages about the hot-button issues of the day, complete with videos, links, and healthy commenting? Russell Fine is trying to do that with Opposing Views, a site that launched a few hours ago. It pits experts against each other on topics such as the economy, global warming, health issues, and politics. "We are trying to create a site where people can get well-informed on a topic quickly," says Fine.Opposing Views is an information portal disguised as a debate site. Experts debate hot-button issues, and readers can comment and vote on who they think is right. For instance, the site has a Barack Obama adviser and a John McCain adviser debating about "Who Has the Right Plan For America's Economy?" A NASA scientist and a Hudson Institute fellow debate, "Have We Reached Peak Oil?" The National Autism Association and a doctor go head-to-head on: "Are Autism and Vaccines Linked?"Opposing views finds experts and associations willing to argue one side or the other, and sometimes multiple experts weigh in on a single topic. Each argument is broken down into a list of simple points with a headline that readers can click on to go deeper. The experts can argue each point, and embed supporting videos and links. Readers can add their own arguments in comments and vote on who they think is winning the debate. (The best comments can be elevated to the starting page of each debate by the experts).
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