Hailey Council To Discuss Marijuana Ordinances

  Hailey Council To Discuss Marijuana Ordinances

Posted by CN Staff on November 24, 2007 at 05:39:07 PT
By Heather Dawson and Ned Williamson  
Source: Sun Valley 

Idaho -- On November 6, 2007, Hailey voters passed three initiatives called The Hailey Industrial Hemp Act, The Hailey Lowest Police Priority Act and The Hailey Medical Marijuana Act. With the adoption of these initiatives, the Hailey City Council is faced with a number of challenges.First, the Idaho Constitution provides that cities can enact and enforce laws that are not in conflict with the general laws of the State of Idaho.
The Hailey Medical Marijuana Act purports to legalize the use and possession of 35 grams of marijuana for medicinal purposes. This act conflicts with state and federal law and in such a circumstance, the courts have held that a local ordinance is invalid.Second, Idaho prohibits adoption of legislation that is administrative in nature. The Hailey Lowest Police Priority Act potentially legislates the administration of the Hailey Police Department. For example, this act requires the creation of a Community Oversight Committee which is empowered to address grievances about police officers, to discipline police officers, and to request police reports and other information that would be confidential under the public records law. In addition, this act impacts the ability of Hailey police officers to be deputized under federal law and reduces the ability of the Hailey Police Department to receive federal funds for drug enforcement purposes. Finally, under the Hailey Medical Marijuana Act, the law constrains the city prosecutor’s ability to prosecute marijuana offences. These are examples of elements in the voter-approved legislation which may unlawfully invade the administration of public offices. Third, all three laws require the City of Hailey and its officers to advocate for changes in marijuana laws, which potentially impacts an individual’s first amendment rights of freedom of speech and political expression. Fourth, the requirement to advocate for changes in marijuana laws creates a problem for any federal employee who is also an elected official. Federal ethics laws prohibit any federal employee from conducting lobbying activities. One city council member, Carol Brown, is a federal employee. Council Member Brown will have to recuse herself from any discussion of these laws in order to retain her federal position. However, these initiatives mandate that Ms Brown advocate changes in marijuana laws and appoint one member of the oversight committee. Stated differently, council member Brown may have to resign from the Hailey City Council. Finally, questions have been raised about the special status provided to the Liberty Lobby. The initiatives grant the Liberty Lobby automatic membership on the oversight committee. Providing an entitlement to a specific group may not be appropriate. The Hailey City Council will, at its next meeting on November 26, 2007, consider actions to be taken under the new laws. The discussion will be based upon the legal points outlined above.Editor's Note: For more information about industrial hemp, visit Canada's Cool Hemp Farm. -- hemp advocates have a current bill in Congress seeking to allow industrial hemp to be cultivated in the United States, in part because an acre of hemp provides four times as much paper pulp as an acre of any species of tree. Additionally, in a time of global warming, we need all the CO2-absorbing trees we can get. Source: Sun Valley (ID)Author: Heather Dawson and Ned Williamson Published: Friday, November 23, 2007Copyright: 2007 Contact: danheed sunvalleyonline.comWebsite: Related Articles:Hailey Officials Stew Over Pot Initiatives To Tackle Voter-Approved Pot Measures Not Pleased With Pot Initiatives

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Comment #53 posted by afterburner on December 02, 2007 at 22:09:41 PT
nuevo mexican #14
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Comment #52 posted by FoM on November 28, 2007 at 08:16:42 PT

I was able to edit out the green and put it on a DVD using WMM. Now if I don't forget how I did it I will be able to put together videos that I really like on DVD. This will keep me busy thru these slow times as far as news goes. I found one more blank DVD. Must be a miracle or something. LOL!
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Comment #51 posted by FoM on November 27, 2007 at 17:52:03 PT

I can cut out frames using Windows Movie Maker but I haven't tried to put it on a DVD because I am out of them. WMM changes it from wmv so that could be a problem but there must be a way around it I would think. I used Nero to make the DVD. It accepted wmv. It is only the quality of a VHS tape but it sounds good. My tv is very old. It's a 30 some inch tv not a flat screen. It does use the whole screen when it plays. 
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Comment #50 posted by Dankhank on November 27, 2007 at 17:45:04 PT

burning ...
what program do you use to take a snip off the front of a file ...?you're really going at this ...I'm gonna start picking YOUR brain ... LOLpeace ...
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Comment #49 posted by FoM on November 27, 2007 at 16:10:56 PT

I wanted to let you know that I finally figured out how to put the video's on a DVD that are playing now on my TV. I figured out how to edit out the beginning that has a green tint but I haven't done it yet. I found one DVD to use and as far as I know I am out of them. I will need to get more now. Working Cowboys didn't work so I left it out.
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Comment #48 posted by FoM on November 26, 2007 at 18:48:43 PT

I made another one. This has 7 videos on it and after all that I had to dig for a disc and the one I found must be 5 years old or so and it won't play in my DVD player but it's playing in WMP. This was fun to learn. That's all for now.
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Comment #47 posted by FoM on November 26, 2007 at 13:37:58 PT

Thank you for all the help you have given me. I really appreciate it. How I did it was I used this link and downloaded the FLV player then the VLC Player. I followed the directions and got it. I love my aircard! No Fap! Yes Yes Yes! Woo Woo Woo! LOL!
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Comment #46 posted by FoM on November 26, 2007 at 13:32:31 PT

Heads Up: Hailey Council To Meet Tonight 
 November 26th, 2007 The Hailey City Council will meet tonight, Monday, Nov. 26, at 5:30 p.m. at City Hall with a busy agenda after the holiday weekend.Up for the discussion are the three marijuana initiatives that voters passed at the beginning of the month, as well as a request for by the Hailey Chamber of Commerce for additional local option tax funding.The meeting is open to the public and comment is welcome.Copyright: 2007 Express Publishing Inc.

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Comment #45 posted by Dankhank on November 26, 2007 at 13:26:44 PT

Wow ...
I'm impressed ...I don't think I'
ve figured out how to download from youtube, yet ...'nless they've changed something lately ...I had a little program a couple of months ago called 'youtubegrabber" that pulled down any youtube video, but played it in a little window. I lost track of it then ...super ...My oldest friend was in town recently. He has been a digital video processor for a bunch of years and has made some pretty sweet DVDs of some southern Rock bands .His best DVD hangs up on three different DVD players I have in the same place, but he never noticed it hanging up at home.amateur DVD authoring is fraught with confusion and unexplainable phenomenon and we are helpless victims ...great going newly taught, you soar beyond your teacher ...:-) 
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Comment #44 posted by FoM on November 26, 2007 at 13:09:13 PT

I have time to learn things on the computer today and what I did I wanted to tell you. I downloaded 3 videos of Neil from Youtube and then I put them in a player called VLC and converted them from flv to wmv and made a vcd and it is playing in my DVD with all 6 speakers working. I did Prairie Town, Working Cowboys and Rocking in the Free World from a SNL performance years ago. The video is more like a VHS tape and I can't seem to get Working Cowboys to play the whole video but maybe I did something wrong. I can't believe I can watch Prairie Town on my tv! 
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Comment #43 posted by Dankhank on November 26, 2007 at 12:10:48 PT

stash ...
sativex ... yes ...?the only good thing about Sativex is it is whole Cannabis ...
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Comment #42 posted by Dankhank on November 26, 2007 at 11:56:10 PT

my point is there won't BE any vacancies ...They will be filled with someone who can wear a repug label, whether they are or not. R Paul will not be able to manage it all.right now the repug party is looking for RICH people to run for office as the money is short these days and these RICH candidates will be expected to pay their own way. Will they be repugs ...? The fascists are already there ... some of them are Democrats ...we have to sweep them ALL out and then hold the Dems feet to the fire and get back to some sanity.repugs and sanity ... they're the staff in this asylum ... 
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Comment #41 posted by FoM on November 26, 2007 at 07:02:52 PT

Just a Comment
I listened to NORML's audio stash for the first time and after listening to it I realized what it was about and I turned it off. 
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Comment #40 posted by Sinsemilla Jones on November 26, 2007 at 06:39:40 PT

DK and RP are friends!
Kucinich 'Admires' Paul, Says Drug Problem Requires 'Compassion and Wisdom' One thing I found interesting was that Dr. Paul, in his WMUR "Conversation with the Candidate" several months ago, was asked which candidate he might support if he wasn't running. After mentioning Chuck Hagel as a potential anti-war GOP candidate, he said "on the Democratic side, it just happens that Dennis Kucinich is a good friend of mine, and he's an honest person." Some of his more conservative supporters may have been surprised by that, but it prompts me to ask, what besides honesty do you have in common with Dr. Paul?DK: He's been a fearless defender of the Constitution and an outspoken opponent of war as an instrument of policy. He's very bright. He's someone who has a lot of courage, and he's my friend... it's nice when you can admire your friends even if you may have some disagreements with them? I admire him.
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Comment #39 posted by FoM on November 26, 2007 at 06:01:11 PT

I don't believe what you are saying is possible or wise. As an illustration when a person marries that person gets the family as well as the person they want to marry. I don't believe that one person should have total charge because basically Hitler acted that way in my opinion. You get the whole Party not just the person. Maybe I am wrong since politics aren't my thing though.
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Comment #38 posted by mayan on November 26, 2007 at 02:16:00 PT

Those that are currently held by fascists? I'll take my chances with the staff shortages!
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Comment #37 posted by Dankhank on November 25, 2007 at 21:21:50 PT

a delimma ...
tintala ... yes, Ron Paul is actually a LibertarianI have the same reservation about voting for ANY republican, even Ron Paul and here is my reasoning ...R Paul lacks a large enough organization to effectively manage the surfeit of positions needing filling ...Likely it is that he will allow run of the mill republicans to aid in the doling-out of political favors resulting that most of the present coterie of sycophants will remain in office ... AND THEY DON'T DESERVE TO ...only the heaviest thrashing is appropriate at this time.The republican party allowed the NEO-con takeover and encouraged the plundering of America ...I don't have a problem imagining Dennis K as president and equal distaste for any Republican, no matter who it is ...
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Comment #36 posted by tintala on November 25, 2007 at 19:45:39 PT:

I think Barry Cooper should run for prez
You all know who Barry Cooper is .. RIGHT? The ex-narcotics / highway patrollman officer who recently changed to the "other side" , now against the drug war. I think he should run for prez. I had a question for any political punditz here who Like and would MAYBE consider supporting ROn Paul. Wasn't Ron Paul a libertarian? Now republican, or am I confused, last time I voted I voted democrate. now with a PASSIONATE disgust in Bush , I would vote for a republican , RON PAUL
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Comment #35 posted by The GCW on November 25, 2007 at 18:57:01 PT

I just saw that news item Myself.Dr. Claudia Jensen's story reminded Me about another healer; Jesus Christ risked jail to heal the sick.
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Comment #34 posted by ekim on November 25, 2007 at 13:31:57 PT

another wonderful Lady

US CA: Column: Doctor Put Her Own Life on the Line for PatientsURL: 

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Comment #33 posted by Sinsemilla Jones on November 25, 2007 at 11:49:12 PT

Prof. Obama meet Prof. Grinspoon
I wish Obama, and all the candidates, would sit down and have a nice long talk with Lester Grinspoon and Jack Herer.
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Comment #32 posted by Sinsemilla Jones on November 25, 2007 at 11:44:42 PT

More on Obama and Marijuana
From marijuana to money, Obama gets questions OPEN TO LIMITED LEGALIZATION OF MARIJUANA wouldn't be bothered by "I'm not proud of it" or "it was a mistake", if it had been followed by..."But I wasn't arrested for it. Bill Clinton wasn't arrested for it. No one should be arrested for it.", or maybe..."But a bigger mistake was smoking those damn tobacco cigarettes. I'm still fighting my addiction to that. I didn't need thc gum to quit smoking marijuana."
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Comment #31 posted by FoM on November 25, 2007 at 11:25:09 PT

Max Flowers
I don't ignore Ron Paul. Because people here seem to like him I have checked him out by reading many different articles. I understand what he stands for and I don't think like he does. We all are different and that should be fine. No one has to like who I like. What matter is how will our country vote to me.
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Comment #30 posted by Max Flowers on November 25, 2007 at 11:12:00 PT

I understand that. My hope (however unlikely it may or may not be) is that Ron Paul will push ahead to be a top tier candidate in the near future. Then you and millions of others won't be able to ignore him any longer. Then you will really see substance over style. This looks more and more possible every day based on how well he's doing with his campaign and funds.It would also be nice if Dennis Kucinich could make a big move, but we know that unfortunately, the chances of that are very slim. Did you see the thing where DK's wife told a reporter that DK would consider a bipartisan ticket with Ron Paul? Now that would be something eh? The trick would be for DK to accept being VP instead of thinking that RP should be VP. I can't envision DK as president very easily, but VP? Definitely.
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Comment #29 posted by FoM on November 25, 2007 at 10:42:25 PT

Max Flowers 
I understand what you are saying but I am only talking about the top tier candidates. That is the top 3 in my mind in both Parties. I don't look much further then that because I really am not into politics except what I am following. I like the people who are on Obama's blog. I've never posted on his blog though or any political blogs. I am more like them then any other candidate's followers.
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Comment #28 posted by Mike on November 25, 2007 at 10:33:03 PT

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Comment #27 posted by Max Flowers on November 25, 2007 at 10:26:20 PT

If Bill Clinton said upon leaving office that cannabis should be decriminalized, then he is a dirty double crosser and hypocrite, because cannabis arrests skyrocketed during his administration. For him to say that on the way out after he was instrumental in putting thousands behind bars for the same thing is disgusting. If he really believed that, he could have made it happen with an executive order any time he wanted.
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Comment #26 posted by Max Flowers on November 25, 2007 at 10:22:23 PT

Ron Paul vs Obama
Unlike Obama, Ron Paul knows that it is not the federal government's place to try to control what people do in their private lives if they are not hurting anyone else. Obama's comment concerns me a lot that he has no concept of that. He is "concerned" that people might smoke a joint to relieve acute tension. Why? Could it be the guilt or shame he portrays himself as feeling over having smoked himself? If he associates cannabis with "wrong" and "shame" and "mistake", then he will side with the puritanical prohibitionist mindset for sure. He will go with fear instead of freedom, I think that is clear.Ron Paul wants to stop all the interference of the federal government into people's private lives, as the framers intended. He will dismantle the structures that perpetuate the prying and the unjust incarceration that always follows the prying!
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Comment #25 posted by FoM on November 25, 2007 at 08:13:16 PT

What I Like
I am seeing more on the news this morning about marijuana then I have in a long time. I see Obama saying he did inhale to dig at Clinton's comment that he didn't inhale. What will Bill counter with Obama's comment? This little political oneupsmanship could get quite interesting. Bill Clinton when he left office said marijuana should be decriminalized. So let's see where they take it.PS: I remember that Governor Johnson said he quit smoking marijuana because it was handicapping his goals or something close to that.
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Comment #24 posted by John Tyler on November 25, 2007 at 08:04:48 PT

What happened to the Democratic front-runners? I once thought they had a little more enlightened point of view. Did someone give them the “talk”, and tell them to shut up about cannabis, or it would be the end of their campaign? They are all saying about the same old lies now.  I did it when I was in college and it was good, but 30 years later I’m ashamed of it because it might hurt my chances in the election, and people should still go to jail for it, though I shouldn’t have, because I’m special, blah, blah, blah, blah. It’s kind of sickening to watch people turn into politicians. 
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Comment #23 posted by FoM on November 25, 2007 at 06:55:50 PT

A Comment
I am really enjoying reading Obama's comments but I don't think I should post anything for fear of flaming. He is the first top tier candidate from either party that is giving this any attention and that makes me smile. 
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Comment #22 posted by Truth on November 25, 2007 at 06:45:58 PT

'cultural' would be the right spelling 
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Comment #21 posted by Truth on November 25, 2007 at 06:43:58 PT

"He added it would concern him much more if people were allowed to grow their own to use whenever they were simply "feeling really tense" and "needed a joint."Why? Alcohol kills, pot doesn't. If one is in a place of tension or stress why shouldn't he or she be able to relieve that stress with the safest therapeudic substance know to mankind? Stress kills, it leads to violence. Pot doesn't.Come on Obama. I want to vote for you but if you think jail is a better option then joints you'll have a hard time getting votes from the cannabis community. We number in the millions. Bunches of votes if you show some compassion. This is 2007, not 1948. Live the truth, not lies.Wake up. The era of cultual genocide is over!
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Comment #20 posted by RevRayGreen on November 25, 2007 at 06:29:15 PT

OBAMA:"if the best way to relieve pain 
is medical marijuana" then it's something he's open to. Good, because I know weed helps 'cause I done seen it for myself. As for his stating his use a youth was a mistake, it shouldn't be something anyone should be ashamed of or minimized as a mistake. His success along with any other politicians who used some marijuana as a youth shatters a lot of myths. AUDUBON, Iowa (CNN) — Earlier this week in New Hampshire Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama spoke candidly about his past experimentation with drugs and alcohol in high school, and on Saturday—after a question on medicinal marijuana—Obama was prodded a bit further and asked whether or not he had ever inhaled."I did," the senator from Illinois said to light applause. "It's not something I'm proud of. It was a mistake as a young man."The question was a reference to a line made famous by former President Bill Clinton who, while admitting to trying marijuana, said he did not inhale."I never understood that line," Obama continued. "The point was to inhale. That was the point."On the campaign trail on Saturday, GOP White House hopeful Mitt Romney said Obama's earlier comments set a bad example for young people."I agree with the sentiment that nobody's perfect and most of us, if not all of us, in our youthful years have engaged in various indiscretions we wouldn't want to have paraded in the front of a newspaper," the former Massachusetts governor said in New Hampshire. "On the other hand if we're running for president, I think it's important for us not to go into details about the weaknesses and our own failings as young people for the concern that we open kids thinking that it's ok for them."On the issue of medicinal marijuana, Obama said that if the "best way to relieve pain and suffering is through medicinal marijuana," then it's something he's open to.He added it would concern him much more if people were allowed to grow their own to use whenever they were simply "feeling really tense" and "needed a joint."-CNN Iowa Producer Chris Welch

Weed Helps 
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Comment #19 posted by FoM on November 25, 2007 at 05:45:53 PT

There are only two religions that are tolerated in America and they are Christians and Jews. Mormons are considered cults and so are any minor religions that buck against those two faiths. Freedom of religion is only a term but not a reality.
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Comment #18 posted by FoM on November 25, 2007 at 05:41:25 PT

nuevo mexican 
Happy Holidays to you too. It really is a strange thing to me to go back in my mind to how things were and remember why we decided to move so far out into the country in the late 70s. I knew that the government wasn't to be trusted. We wanted to be far away from where it would get bad in the future and the future is now. Mother Earth News was a magazine we read and enjoyed and we just felt we needed to flea heavily populated areas because the future was going to be hard. It is hard now.
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Comment #17 posted by Hope on November 25, 2007 at 05:22:38 PT

Comment 11
Government has made lots of decisions against religions and religious beliefs. The Mormons, for one religion, were and are "re-instructed", quite emphatically, per the government, from time to time. Lots of people's religious beliefs are serious business for government.So these denials of religious freedom petitions are not exclusive to the Rastafarian. 
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Comment #16 posted by Hope on November 25, 2007 at 05:12:09 PT

There's a poll
about it, too. On the same page.
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Comment #15 posted by Hope on November 25, 2007 at 05:10:16 PT

This story is up at Grits for Breakfast, too.
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Comment #14 posted by nuevo mexican on November 24, 2007 at 22:10:57 PT

Howards gone, and the drones are here.....
Happy Holiday FOM, got your passport?Australia's' looking good these days, Houston will deploy drones in 7 months, (unless there is an uproar and action to stop it). This news department gets it when it comes to surveillance, check out the video, and send them a thank you email!:The police spy's were caught trying out their spy drone, by the news copter, now that's reporting!!Unmanned Drones - Houston Police Test:
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Comment #13 posted by The GCW on November 24, 2007 at 21:03:04 PT

Voting is mandatory in Austrailia???
I don’t support and don’t ever see supporting compulsory military duty / the draft.But it would be interesting, if the only way compulsory military was possible is by way of compulsory voting.In what way would America be different if every citizen 18 years and over were to vote?
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Comment #12 posted by Dankhank on November 24, 2007 at 19:12:31 PT

i posted that on another link that got little notice, so good job posting it again ...potpalMikes link, comment3, was to a reddit link about the most irrelevant last line in a news story ...Then I looked at your link, comment4, and when I read it I immediately thought, "The last line qualified for a similar label; to whit: the most instructive last line ever in a news article for democracies;" because it said that voting is mandatory in the democracy of Austrailia.voila ...sorry if I was a trifle obtuse ...I talk like that, too, sometimes ... probably drives my friends bonkers ... 
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Comment #11 posted by fight_4_freedom on November 24, 2007 at 19:08:49 PT:

from the lansing state journal
Sorry if it previously postedJudge rejects Rastafarian religion plea in marijuana caseAssociated PressA Norwich, Conn., man's religious belief was not enough to convince a judge to reduce his jail time for marijuana possession.Vernon Smith, 43, is a Rastafarian who believes his use of pot is a God-given right. He had pleaded guilty to two counts of possession of marijuana with intent to sell after police found him with more than 20 pounds of the drug in July.On Nov. 15, Smith's lawyer argued unsuccessfully for a reduced sentence. Prosecutors successfully sought a term of 2 1/2 years in prison and three years probation.
AdvertisementSmith, who appeared before Judge Susan B. Handy in a white robe and headwrap, said he tries to set a good example and that he follows the Ten Commandments. He does not consider himself a criminal, he said."I know that the law is such in this country, but I feel one day the law will change, especially with people who indulge in marijuana and are not violent," Smith said.Rastafarians worship Ethiopia's last emperor, Haile Selassie, who died in 1975. They preach unity with nature and smoke marijuana as a sacrament.Prosecutor John P. Gravalec-Pannone said the General Assembly is responsible for changing state law. And his experience shows that buying and selling marijuana - and its potency when mixed with other substances - leads to violent crimes, he said.
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Comment #10 posted by mayan on November 24, 2007 at 18:04:38 PT

What A Ticket 
Elizabeth Kucinich: My Husband Would Absolutely Consider Running With Ron Paul (video): 
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Comment #9 posted by potpal on November 24, 2007 at 17:35:13 PT

You lost me? Or I'm stoned. I'm stoned. Again.
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Comment #8 posted by mayan on November 24, 2007 at 16:30:38 PT

Tasers a form of torture, says UN:,22049,22814674-5001028,00.html?from=public_rssPaul's fundraising powers could put him in league with the 2 GOP leaders:
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Comment #7 posted by Dankhank on November 24, 2007 at 12:15:48 PT

like this ....
the most instructive last line ever in a news article for democracies ....:-)
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Comment #6 posted by Dankhank on November 24, 2007 at 12:13:11 PT

Mike ...
thanks for the link ...I read potpal's link and came up with my vote for "the most instructive last line ever for democracies"some one should do this for that story ...whaddya think potpal ...?
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Comment #5 posted by FoM on November 24, 2007 at 12:06:15 PT

I get totally confused with right and left and words in general trying to tell what any Party believes. I for years thought a Libertarian meant being liberal ( social policy ) but they are conservative. I am a little bit of the different Parties and maybe that's the best way since neither one is 100 percent correct even if they are right or left.
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Comment #4 posted by potpal on November 24, 2007 at 11:55:12 PT

changes in australia
Let's call it, foreshadowing. Weird how the Australia right is the Liberal Party (the left is Labor). 
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Comment #3 posted by Mike on November 24, 2007 at 08:11:26 PT

On Reddit
"The most irrelevant last line in a news article, ever."
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Comment #2 posted by John Tyler on November 24, 2007 at 07:59:51 PT

changes in Australia
I hope the change in Australian politics will have a positive effect on cannabis freedom. The article didn’t mention it, but I have an idea that it might have.
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Comment #1 posted by mayan on November 24, 2007 at 05:46:51 PT

Howard's Gone
Good Riddance...Australia changes course:

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