Hailey Officials Stew Over Pot Initiatives

Hailey Officials Stew Over Pot Initiatives
Posted by CN Staff on November 21, 2007 at 06:57:44 PT
By Terry Smith, Express Staff Writer
Source: Idaho Mountain Express 
Idaho -- The recent passage of three pro-marijuana initiatives in Hailey presents city government with a plethora of problems, city officials stated Monday in a press release. The issue will put the city at odds with the U.S. and Idaho constitutions, Hailey police stand to lose federal funding for drug law enforcement and one City Council member may have resign. Those are a few of the potential problems cited in the announcement.
City officials stopped short of saying how they will resolve the dilemma, but announced that the topic will be discussed at a City Council meeting on Monday, Nov. 26. Hailey voters approved three marijuana reform initiatives on Nov. 6: one to legalize medical use of marijuana, another to legalize industrial use of hemp and a third that would make enforcement of marijuana laws the city's lowest police priority. The electorate voted down a fourth initiative that would have required the city to tax and regulate sales and use of marijuana. The man responsible for the initiatives, Ryan Davidson, who lives in Garden City and is chairman of The Liberty Lobby of Idaho, said earlier that the Hailey initiatives are part of a wider grassroots effort to reform marijuana laws statewide. City officials wrote in the press release that The Hailey Medical Marijuana Act conflicts with both state and federal law "and in such circumstances the courts have held that a local ordinance is invalid." City Attorney Ned Williamson said earlier that litigation is likely to ensue from enactment of the measure and will be expensive for city taxpayers. City officials further wrote that The Hailey Lowest Police Priority Act also conflicts with state law because "Idaho prohibits adoption of legislation that is administrative in nature." Officials further contend that "this act impacts the ability of Hailey police officers to be deputized under federal law and reduces the ability of the Hailey Police Department to receive federal funds for drug enforcement purposes." The initiatives also present a dilemma for elected officials, particularly Councilwoman Carol Brown, who is a federal employee. The problem, officials wrote, is that all three of the initiatives require that the city lobby for reform of marijuana laws and Brown is prohibited from doing so under federal ethics laws. "Council member Brown will have to recuse herself from any discussion of these laws in order to retain her federal position," officials wrote. "Stated differently, council member Brown may have to resign from the Hailey City Council." City officials further wrote that the lobby requirement may put the city at odds with First Amendment "rights of freedom of speech and political expression." Note: City alleges harmful impacts if pro-marijuana issues enacted.Source: Idaho Mountain Express (ID)Author: Terry Smith, Express Staff WriterPublished: Wednesday, November 21, 2007Copyright: 2007 Express Publishing, Inc.Contact: letters mtexpress.comWebsite: Articles: Hailey To Tackle Voter-Approved Pot Measures Not Pleased With Pot Initiatives To ‘Grass Roots’ Movement
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Comment #34 posted by FoM on November 24, 2007 at 19:34:30 PT
There is something about the passion many of us felt back in those days. It never went away. It has been hushed up but it's heart still beats and beats silently but strong. Never give up hope. I believe that we are winding down but maybe if we get a good person in power that will really try and really care for us maybe we can postpone what I believe is inevitable. We were listening to your songs today. They are so comforting and say so much. Thank you.
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Comment #33 posted by museman on November 24, 2007 at 19:24:58 PT
Get togethers are always nice.George Bush has done some evil deeds. Many many people have suffered under his watch. He has failed the American people beyond description.I watched Bobby a few months ago, and it really brings back the memory of watching this country die.It looks and feels pretty dead to me these days, just a walking corpse that hasn't accepted the obvious. The meek shall inherit the earth, and the justice of it is imminent. The American Nightmare is almost over. I can feel it. Got no time left for propping up dead horses and failed systems, just enough to get some reality back into the infusion maybe before justice descends.If we can get some breathing room after Bush, maybe there'll be a bit more time, but it's just not looking all that great in the farce we call politics.ah well. Hopin for the best anyway, thank you Yhwh for the wonder herb. May the peaceful prayers ascend on the smoke like the incense of the angels to the heavens.
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Comment #32 posted by FoM on November 24, 2007 at 15:35:48 PT
I really liked it. It had so many famous actors and actresses in it. That year was a horrible year. I turned off to everything after Bobby was assassinated. I believed we had the best country in the world but I was young and after that year I never cared again about anything concerning politics until 04. That's a long time to not care but everything died inside for me during that time. I never believed we would have a good president again because someone would kill him. I felt the same hopelessness when MLK was assassinated early that year. They only kill the good ones and let the bad ones ruin our country. I really have a negative feeling for some of what people believe in politics.
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Comment #31 posted by dankhank on November 24, 2007 at 14:53:14 PT
Bobby ...
yes, I did watch, OK ... liked the acid trip ...the assasination ... still moving in it's heartbreak for so many people many of us ...
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Comment #30 posted by FoM on November 24, 2007 at 13:59:49 PT
It sounds like you had a nice Thanksgiving. I have faith in the kindness of humanity even if it gets destroyed in the end. What matters is the deeds we do for others in life and anything else is just stuff we all do. Yesterday my husband went to the VA for his 6 months check up and they are running a lot of blood tests this time. The doctor asked him if he was drinking and he said I told you that I do not touch alcohol so the Doctor is concerned because he has always had good blood pressure but it's now thru the roof. I thank God for the VA. I don't know how we could ever afford these tests. We learned something this week that really upset us. Our neighbor that is a Veteran was kicked off the VA because he made over $33,000 and Bush in 2003 made it so Veterans can't get help if they make more then $33,000 a year. He is in his early 60s and has serious health issues. His wife works in the grocery store and he works part time locally at a Park and he has a pension from many years of working at a good company so now he must pay for his own health care. He isn't the only one that this has happened to that my husband knows. The other man is working in a semi truck to pay so his wife could get insurance which costs $1500 a month and what he makes in a month covers that but it has a $5000 deductible. Social Security and his part time driving job put him over $33,000 and he got booted from the VA too. 
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Comment #29 posted by museman on November 24, 2007 at 12:20:53 PT
Well, I did invite a Native American, and he did come (one of my daughter's boyfriend). There was also native Japanese there as well (one of my son's girlfriend). There were at least 3 tribes (two already in the family bloodline) and about 6 nations (counting our cultural roots) represented.I am proud to be a human being that consistentlly attempts to be real, but I have no pride left in being 'American.' This superimposed 'reality' that everyone who isn't rich is forced to live in and with, is plain sick, demented, and is about as far away from REAL reality as you can get.Political clown acts,liars for hire,who really did start the Waco fire?Did you listen to 'em talkin' 'bout a New World Orderlike a beast risin' up we thought was dead?Fighting for rights defined on wallstreet,swords for the lords of the American empire,wealth and power hold the meaning of justice.Is this not the way it has ever been?Freedom buyers, liberty's chains,do the buffalo still roam the plains?All those pretenders to authority can get out of the way anytime, and let some real people at the wheel for a change, but as long as the almighty dollar is worshipped so fervently and feverously by the ignorant american majority, the chance of reality seeping into that corruption called politics and government is pretty slim. All success is directly related to real people who did the work before the politicians and other charismatics ripped it off and claimed credit for the labor. Prime time spotlight is primarily on those who lips are permantly brown from the rich asses they are constantly kissing. (it's not lipstick) Beautiful made-up falsehoods of monumental proportion, but not real. Not real. Effectively real when those who are about to feel the bullet strike the bone succumb to the fear ladled about by all of the good-looking powers and principalities, but essentially a bluff by the corrupt minds and beings that hold us all in thrall.I give thanks that within the next 20 years or probably less, this country is going to be forced to get real as all the plastic fantastic diddly-do's held in such high esteem by the foolish majority will become as worthless as they actually are-without the hype constantly trying to convince us otherwise.I give thanks that I live in a time when real justice is going to be delivered to all these well-dressed but corrupted genetic throwbacks posing as superior humans.I am thankful that I was able to instill some real perspective in my own children despite the propaganda, fear tactics, and general BS taught to them in (american) school.I am thankful that there are still trees, and though the old blue sky is getting whiter all the time, I am thankful that we are still here and breathing -which means that there's hope and a chance that enough people will get real in time to salvage something of our positive social evolutions.I am thankful that there are some few folks looking for answers, and diligently working on the salvage project -even if the majority laughs with mouths full of burgers and fries condemning themselves by their ignorant words and deeds.I am thankful for that which has been shown me, for it has given me an unshakeable foundation for my faith, and therefore a strong shield against all the fear tactics being waged by, the church, state, and other elitist 'professions.'And I thank you all here for making a stand. FoM in particular for holding down this fort all these years. I marvel at the dedication.Peace
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Comment #28 posted by FoM on November 24, 2007 at 06:35:02 PT
Did you watch Bobby yet?
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Comment #27 posted by Dankhank on November 22, 2007 at 17:43:02 PT
Bobby ...
haven't seen it, yet ...not sure why ...have it and have converted it and am now burning it ...probably watch it tonight ...I know it will be a sad one ...the loss of the unknown, what it could have been ...and what we got ...Peace to all who care ...
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Comment #26 posted by FoM on November 22, 2007 at 16:41:25 PT
Happy Thanksgiving. What's next? I don't know but I do see an awakening in people. Change won't come when no one cares. We watched Bobby today and my sister thought it was a wonderful movie. It made me cry again. I want what we never had. That's my hope.
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Comment #25 posted by Dankhank on November 22, 2007 at 15:56:50 PT
Happy thanksgiving to all ...FoM, you're right ...there is a little light peeking in ...the camel's nose is in the tent ...what's next ... 
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Comment #24 posted by FoM on November 22, 2007 at 06:32:38 PT
John Tyler 
I am very happy about what I see happening in politics these days. I have hope again and it is a wonderful feeling. Happy Thanksgiving!
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Comment #23 posted by John Tyler on November 21, 2007 at 22:32:08 PT
the people have spoken
Politics is a messy business. It is even messier when the people demand change. If this batch of city councilmen don't feel comfortable with this, they should step aside and let others do what the people want. What the people want in this case is good and wise. They don't want anything weird or hurtful. They want their personal freedom back. Deal with it or get out of the way.
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Comment #22 posted by FoM on November 21, 2007 at 18:55:50 PT
Bonnie Raitt and Jackson Browne how cool. I'm looking forward to the picture. Have a Happy Thanksgiving.
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Comment #21 posted by RevRayGreen on November 21, 2007 at 18:47:44 PT
I'm gonna put some herb stuffing
in my bird this year.........Happy Thanksgiving....
I'll post a pic.
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Comment #20 posted by RevRayGreen on November 21, 2007 at 18:45:41 PT
FoM regarding (Comment #6)
"Comment #6 posted by FoM on November 21, 2007 at 08:08:38 PT 
One More Off Topic Article 
Edwards: War on Drugs Too Punitive "I was at the Edwards appearance in Des Moines. As my reply on their comments section says, I left after seeing Bonnie and Jackson..........but should've stayed and grilled Edwards. I was like 25 ft. from Bonnie playing slide.....she has it together :) 
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Comment #19 posted by FoM on November 21, 2007 at 12:45:20 PT
Thank you and I hope you have a Happy Thanksgiving.
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Comment #18 posted by paul armentano on November 21, 2007 at 12:37:18 PT
Kucinich on today's NORML podcast
I've just been informed that Presidential hopeful Dennis Kucinich will appear today on NORML's podcast, the Daily Audio Stash, to discuss his views on marijuana law reform. Those interested may tune in at: (Episodes are uploaded at approximately 4:30pm est.)Notable Presidential candidates Ron Paul and Mike Gravel have previously appeared on the podcast to discuss their campaigns and their views on drug policy. Listeners can download these interviews in the Stash archives. Best,
Paul Armentano
Senior Policy Analyst
NORML | NORML Foundation
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Comment #17 posted by Max Flowers on November 21, 2007 at 12:03:21 PT
Nuevo Mexican (McClellan story)
I was just reading about it on CNN, and the TV was blasting about it from many corners last night... MSNBC was certainly talking about it... so I don't think that the MSM is totally asleep at the wheel on it, fortunately!However I just hope it now goes where it should. I mean this should blow the lid off and finally give them undeniable grounds for impeachment. Maybe this is what the more reluctant dems were waiting for all this time... maybe they were more shrewd than we thought for holding back. If we NOW see a lack of investigation and impeachment, then we will *know* that there is something very rotten in Denmark (as if we didn't know already, but I guess I mean even more rotten than we thought). 
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Comment #16 posted by FoM on November 21, 2007 at 11:27:55 PT
I don't think of Thanksgiving as any event in history but a time for family and turkey and good friends and lots of yummy food. I'm glad I didn't learn a lot about somethings in school. I think it's a blessing. You know ignorance is bliss! LOL! Have a great day tomorrow.We will be taking a meal to a shut in tomorrow too.
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Comment #15 posted by museman on November 21, 2007 at 11:05:33 PT
OT: 'thanksgiviing'
SO if we really want to celebrate the true spirit of thanksgiving, go out and invite some native americans to dinner -if you can get any to agree to come. It's a holiday commemorating the beginning of the destruction of their homeland, not ours.Should be changed to White-Man-All-Thieves-Day, which is followed quite closely by Rich-Men-Get-Richer-Day calebrating the birth and continuing world domination of nature and natural peoples by stuffed shirts.Aside from that excuses for family to get together is good, I can just do that without all the hype and propaganda. So have a good get-together folks.A new bumper sticker I came up with;Plan for the Eternal; Live Now!
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Comment #14 posted by FoM on November 21, 2007 at 11:01:23 PT
nuevo mexican 
Happy Thanksgiving to you too. 
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Comment #13 posted by FoM on November 21, 2007 at 10:42:15 PT
It's really good to see you and you are very welcome. I hope you have a nice Thanksgiving. I can't wait. I love this holiday. It's a time to be with family and it has always been special to me. I am so glad they are together again. I like to count blessings and that is at the top of the list for me this year.
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Comment #12 posted by Genthirdday on November 21, 2007 at 10:38:45 PT
Happy Thanksgiving to All....
 but a special prayer of Thanksgiving for Runruff's safe return home to Linda.
 I do not post often but CN is a real blessing and I am with you all is spirit.
  May THE WAR on THE PEOPLE be over with great speed. Thanks FoM for all your support and good work.
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Comment #11 posted by nuevo mexican on November 21, 2007 at 10:25:40 PT
The Smoking Gun on Bush, now get to work! OT:
though 'on message'! LOL!Have a happy Thanksgiving FOM, Stick and All!This is the day we've all been waiting for, when Scotty McClellan revealed yesterday, BUSH KNEW!The Mainswitch Media is asleep at the wheel on this story, again, it will be up to us to make this Headline story a HEADLINE story, HEADS UP MEDIA WHORES LOOKING FOR A STORY AT
C-News! Your bosses don't want you on this one, whats' up wit dat? Bush knew and Scotty says so in his new book, and the media will NOT cover this today, if you look hard you might find it, which means the media is in on imposing Martial Law. Happy to carry bushes message of a Mini-Musharef, imitation Pakistan military coup. Smiling all the way to the bank, smug, rich media bastards, time to march on the news stations, don't ya think? They are strategically involved and are never held responsible.YOU, in the media, are complicit in bushes crimes, and will be held accountable, why do you think Scotty has spilled the beans on his bosses, because he can't look at himself in the mirror in the morning, and so how can YOU?McClellan’s tell-all implicates Bush in Plame scandal.
implicates-bush-in-plame-scandal/#commentsOnly Keith Olberman will truly touch this story:
Olbermann Leads w/ McClellan Bush Revelations ('Bush Involved')
all&address=385x71161Confess your crimes of omission and subject changing and 911 truth bashing! Times UP!NOW, either get up from behind your keyboard, and get on the phone, write letters, or call the local and national news stations, and demand coverage of this story, which MUST stop all business as usual so we can have a discussion of when and how we will arrest and convict these treasonous bastards, again, NOW, this Thanksgiving, let's talk about it with our relatives, friends and local government officials, and DO something.Watch it be ignored, and if so, we are effed!So do something, anything!
Like donate to Dennis Kucinich campaign!
877-41-DENNIS (877-413-3664)KucinichforpresidentINC.
P.O.Box 110180
Cleveland, OH 44111Where you spend your dollar, is where you vote goes, spend it well!Tell me this Democrat doesn't have balls of steel and isn't electable!Kucinich to add W to impeachment call!!! w/poll Ani Defranco and Dennis make magic, you might be spell bound, WARNING, you may be inspired!
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Comment #10 posted by dongenero on November 21, 2007 at 08:59:35 PT
desperate prohibitionists - comment #9
There is a clear change of public opinion on cannabis.The prohibitionists are getting desperate.
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Comment #9 posted by Mike on November 21, 2007 at 08:42:28 PT
Cannabis prohibition
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Comment #8 posted by runruff on November 21, 2007 at 08:36:10 PT:
Cannabis prohibition is about 85% of the funding and the main reason for the WOD. You can't think like the WOD is actually there to help or save anybody. We're talking about the same government that is killing and maiming inocent children in the name of oil. Incarcerating American citizens who have not commited a crime in order to bolster prison industry profits and keep the unemployment rate down. Thousands are employed in the prison industry and hundreds of thousands are locked up. The WOD is not for our benefit but for theirs.
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Comment #7 posted by ripit on November 21, 2007 at 08:21:08 PT:
whats so hard about it?
as for the fed funds why would they lose them?theres plenty of meth and coke out there to hunt down. so brown is prohibited,the rest of the council isn't!there no excuse for them.
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Comment #6 posted by FoM on November 21, 2007 at 08:08:38 PT
One More Off Topic Article
Edwards: War on Drugs Too Punitive
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Comment #5 posted by Mike on November 21, 2007 at 08:05:58 PT
In other words
'If we stop witch-burning, we'll lose federal funds to burn witches.'I can see the problem.
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Comment #4 posted by dongenero on November 21, 2007 at 07:51:23 PT
City officials further wrote that the lobby requirement may put the city at odds with First Amendment "rights of freedom of speech and political expression."Are they saying that it will squelch their right to express that they don't agree with this legislation??! Tough! When you sign up for public service, representing your constituents, I believe you must set your personal feelings aside in this case. If you really can't do it, then resign, and you can then go an to express your politics as an average citizen.Quit whining and get to work! And no pouting!
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Comment #3 posted by FoM on November 21, 2007 at 07:50:31 PT
Off Topic: For Those Who Might Be Interested
Barack Obama Tells N.H. Kids of his Alcohol, Drug Use During Teen Years
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Comment #2 posted by runruff on November 21, 2007 at 07:33:43 PT:
Nixon residue!
Looks like Carol Brown knows her way around.What I said about greasing the skids [with funds] so local predincts would accept a federal presense. They are addicted to federal funding. Peoples will be damned, we want the money!
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Comment #1 posted by OverwhelmSam on November 21, 2007 at 07:08:45 PT
So What Assholes
Change the laws against marijuana consumers and your city council will not have to worry about all these problems and expenses. And to hell with federal funds for marijuana law enforcement. Oh, and go ahead and raise taxes for your law suits, let's see how that affects your career in politics. Dumb asses!
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