cannabisnews.com: Marijuana By Prescription? Marijuana By Prescription? Posted by CN Staff on October 12, 2007 at 07:03:59 PT Opinion Source: Daily Herald Utah -- Presidential hopeful Mitt Romney is catching some flak for his response to a question about medical marijuana. The incident puts the issue in the national spotlight, which of course was the questioner's intent. In Dover, N.H., Romney took the stage before a banner proclaiming, "Ask Mitt anything." (Note to Romney campaign staff: Think about rewording that.) A young muscular dystrophy victim in a wheelchair, Clayton Holton, said "I have the support of five of my doctors saying I am living proof that medical marijuana works. I am completely against legalizing it for everyone but there are medical purposes for it." Romney suggested synthetic marijuana, but Holton said, "I have tried it and it makes me throw up." Then he asked Romney: "Will you arrest me and my doctors if I get medical marijuana?" "I'm not in favor of medical marijuana being legal," Romney replied, and moved on to another questioner. Some think he was rude, but a candidate need not have infinite patience with a media ambush. This isn't the first time Holton has baited a presidential candidate, according to news reports. He asked Fred Thompson the same question. But we have to give the kid credit for raising the issue. Marijuana has been used as medicine for millennia, but has, of course, been illegal in the United States for decades. In recent years, some doctors and patients have studied it in treating a wide variety of diseases, such as multiple sclerosis or muscular dystrophy. It is perhaps best known as a way to reduce pain and nausea in cancer or AIDS patients. A dozen states have authorized the use of marijuana for some patients, but the federal government continues to prosecute users. As with any issue surrounding drugs, claims and counterclaims abound. Former Surgeon General Joycelyn Elders has written, "The evidence is overwhelming that marijuana can relieve certain types of pain, nausea, vomiting and other symptoms. ... Indeed, marijuana is less toxic than many of the drugs that physicians prescribe every day." Former Sen. Bill Frist, also a doctor, has countered that the research on the issue is not conclusive: "I believe that marijuana is a dangerous drug and that there are less dangerous medicines offering the same relief from pain and other medical symptoms." Marijuana, the government asserts, has a range of harmful effects. But advocates counter that physicians regularly prescribe far more powerful narcotics. Even some opponents of medical marijuana concede it's unlikely that a bedridden cancer patient, treated with marijuana, will burgle houses or rob liquor stores to feed his habit. Like Romney and Frist, the anti-legalization forces point to an alternative -- synthetic marijuana, taken as pills. They say that smoked marijuana contains 400 substances, many toxic, some hard to measure. The synthetic is easier to prescribe and monitor. Drug advocates say smoking allows patients to control their dosages better than they could by swallowing a pill. But some cancer patients have trouble even swallowing. Some patients prefer the herb, and it reportedly is cheaper. We suppose that depends on who you know. Reports say scientists are studying better ways of delivering both herbal and synthetic marijuana. Doing so could help resolve problems with both methods. Another issue runs deeper. Advocates accuse Uncle Sam of fanatically following outworn dogma, ignoring the needs of the sick. The government fires back that the medical marijuana movement is a stalking horse for legalizing the drug in all circumstances. That seems a stretch. We don't see the legalization of morphine in all circumstances just because it's prescribed in hospitals. Marijuana, a more benign substance, could be regulated in the same way. Modern medicine is keeping more people alive, but that may lead society to a new obligation to help reduce suffering. Doctors prescribe opiates; why not a lesser drug? Would legalizing marijuana for medical use -- by prescription only -- lower barriers that now inhibit recreational use? Probably not. While prescription drug fraud is a problem, you'd have to be a remarkable actor indeed to feign the specific illnesses for which marijuana treatment would be appropriate. We urge whoever does win the White House to push for more research into the uses or abuses of medical marijuana. It could become an accepted remedy for the seriously ill, but only if the question marks are removed. Should the U.S. legalize medical marijuana? Send your comments to: dhpolls heraldextra.com or call 344-2942. Please leave your name, hometown and phone number with your comments. E-mail comments should not exceed 100 words; voicemail comments should be no longer than 30 seconds. Anonymous and unverifiable responses will not be published. The Daily Herald will publish comments on Oct. 21. Source: Daily Herald, The (Provo, UT)Published: Friday, October 12, 2007 Copyright: 2007 The Daily HeraldContact: http://tinyurl.com/2waomzWebsite: http://www.heraldextra.comRelated Articles:Dear Mr. Romney, Will You Arrest Me?http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread23399.shtmlHazy Stances - Indiana Daily Studenthttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread23398.shtmlIntrusion of Reality Ruins Good Campaign Stophttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread23391.shtml Home Comment Email Register Recent Comments Help Comment #40 posted by Toker00 on October 17, 2007 at 09:22:38 PT whig That was my original choice, but it came up 02 because of the limited characters allowed and I thought 42 would be better. Oh well. I'll keep trying.Toke. [ Post Comment ] Comment #39 posted by Tomat on October 16, 2007 at 15:50:52 PT: Ann Romney I do not understand how Mitt Romney can not be for Medical Marijuana considering his wife has Multiple Sclerosis. I would be extremely open to *any* treatment that would improve my wife's quality of life and there is plenty of evidence showing Marijuana does just that. [ Post Comment ] Comment #38 posted by fight_4_freedom on October 16, 2007 at 12:04:55 PT: love the name toker00 lol I tried something similar with mine, with 420 backwards. They'll never figure it out hehe.I get that message everytime as well. So I copy what I typed, reload the page, paste it, then try again and then for some reason it seems to work.I posted a comment last night with a boatload of links to studies and such. But when I just went and checked it just a few minutes ago, it was no longer there.I was furious and about to e-mail them about it but then I came across the forum rules.Here's the category mine must have fell under.No External Links* In an effort to provide a safe online experience for Oprah.com Members, posting of non-Oprah.com URLs or links is prohibited. No Illegal ActivityYou may not suggest or encourage illegal or violent activity. Oprah.com will assist law enforcement officials. Oh well, we'll just have to fill up the thread with the entire studies word for word. [ Post Comment ] Comment #37 posted by whig on October 16, 2007 at 03:23:40 PT Sibannac024 This would be a nicely inconspicuous name. [ Post Comment ] Comment #36 posted by Toker00 on October 15, 2007 at 17:55:57 PT fight4freedom For the third time I have tried to post and for the third time I get a message that they are experiencing technical difficulties. Good luck to you guys, though!Think it is my handle? lol. Sibannac 42. I didn't have room for the full 420.Toke. [ Post Comment ] Comment #35 posted by FoM on October 15, 2007 at 13:47:20 PT fight_4_freedom You are starting out in your young life with a great deal of knowledge and it will help you in life I can tell. [ Post Comment ] Comment #34 posted by fight_4_freedom on October 15, 2007 at 13:28:48 PT: yes it is FOM The big 22! woo hoo! And thank you for the birthday wish. [ Post Comment ] Comment #33 posted by FoM on October 15, 2007 at 11:59:31 PT fight_4_freedom Is today your Birthday? If so Happy Birthday and I wish all good thing come your way.PS: My 60th Birthday is right around the corner and I am trying to be a trooper about it! LOL!Seriously it beats the alternative! [ Post Comment ] Comment #32 posted by fight_4_freedom on October 15, 2007 at 11:38:54 PT: Once again..... FOM is here to save the day! Thanks so much. I posted a different link because I thought for some reason the previous one wouldn't work again. Now I shall go find some good studies to post on there.It's time the truth be told to the Oprah viewers :)Then I will go get me a nice, fat birthday spliff to celebrate ;) [ Post Comment ] Comment #31 posted by FoM on October 15, 2007 at 11:17:05 PT fight_4_freedom This is a direct link to your post. I hope this helps.http://tinyurl.com/yv3qaa [ Post Comment ] Comment #30 posted by fight_4_freedom on October 15, 2007 at 10:59:34 PT: let's see if this link works i tried it also and when you click on the link thats supposed to go directly to the thread, it brings up a blank page.this link will bring you to the alternative medicine forum, then you should see the medical marijuana thread. alternative medicine forum [ Post Comment ] Comment #29 posted by Dankhank on October 15, 2007 at 07:24:22 PT fight 4 freedom I went to the Oprah link and saw nothing ... am I doing something wrong ...link us again ... [ Post Comment ] Comment #28 posted by fight_4_freedom on October 14, 2007 at 15:08:14 PT: Well guys and gals Finally, we have our first response on the Oprah discussion. And to my surprise, it's a positive one :) Well I guess I'm not that surprised, it's just that I expected to get some prohibitionist nonsense for the first comment.Later on I'll post some links to studies and we'll get this discussion to the top of the page.I hope everyone has had a wonderful weekend :) [ Post Comment ] Comment #27 posted by FoM on October 14, 2007 at 05:34:15 PT nuevo mexican I never thought that I would say this but I like all of the candidates running except Clinton and would be very happy to see Al Gore run. The Democrats are progressive and what a wonderful group of people that would probably be given high level jobs makes me feel safe or at least safer then I have felt in years since this Republican administration. I guess it's true if we don't give up what is good does win and will win this time. PS: I am not checking out video links because of the FAP I live with now. I'm sure they are good. [ Post Comment ] Comment #26 posted by nuevo mexican on October 14, 2007 at 02:42:22 PT He's playing the 'guessing game' to his..... advantage. From a comment at Dailykos:The MSM line that Gore will almost certainly not run will be used in a feeble attempt to paint him as somehow disingenuous when he does announce.Yeah, it's thin. That's how bad things are for the bastards now.by Left Behind on Sat Oct 13, 2007 at 07:04:51 PM PDTAnother poster says: He's been our President since 2000!Don't buy it FOM!www.draftgore.comThe now-defunct MSM, wants us all to think it's hopeless, Al won't run, Hillary WILL be YOUR next RULER!It's either Hillary or Gore, I refuse to believe the corporate 'line' or buy into the foregone conclusion.It's actually a foregone conclusion that if Al Gore runs again, he will win in a landslide, that is what the media is truly up against, a candidate they don't want, who isn't divisive, and has the support of the Democratic base, who voted him into office in 2000.According to the media, the Clinton/Bush Dynasty must prevail, and will if you believe them, as the American Corpocracy decides who OUR president will be, (unless we vote in massive numbers in 2008).As far as I can tell, he's already 'won' the presidency, by offering true leadership outside the office.We should put Al under 'White House arrest' and force him to serve his term as President, regardless of whether he 'wants' to or not.Does he even get to 'choose'?Do 'we' have any choice?After seeing his presentation of An Inconvenient Truth last week, it would appear that we don't have any choice but to have true leadership in this time of utter crisis,Global warming is happening faster than predicted, as I watch a mountain in the Himalayas' collapse onto the town below, and floods in the Mediterranean destroy the beaches and shores. The devastation is massive, I think it was on Fox News world Minute. I was clicking though the pablum.Back to Al.He legally won the Presidency in 2000, and if 'we the people' want him to finally be our chosen leader, he will 'run' though the current 'guessing game' keeps his name way out there and above Hillary at this point.Al Gore is smart, and should keep us guessing, I can't stand the suspense, it's way better than the NFL, NBA or the World Series isn't it? Great video clip from Bill Maher, who nails it on the fake American Flag pin 'controversy':http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Bill_Maher_Show_me_guy_ with_1013.htmlGreat news and program: AirAmerican and Richard Greene cover Hemp on Nationwide Radio(check out the photo of Arnold puffing the herb!) As insane as this administration is, nothing is more insane (except perhaps Ann Coulter, actually) than the prohibition on industrial hemp. (With the help of Sen. Chris Dodd, Sen. Mike Gravel and others, we will fight for decriminalization of marijuana later).It's real simple: 1. Hemp is a gift from God. 2. It is the perfect agricultural produce 3. It is the most sustainable crop ever 4. It is a profitable crop for farmers, 5. It produces seeds which are the most nutritious food product ever (Highest amount of protein with all essential amino acids, Highest amount of essential fatty acids - Omega 3, 6 and 9, the perfect balance of Omegas for the human body with no danger of mercury or other toxins like fish oil, one of the best sources of dietary fiber for heart health, etc., etc.) 6. It is the best source of bio or sunfuel. Volkswagen told me this. They grow it!!!!! 7. Canada and countries around the world happily grow it. 8. It has nothing to do with marijuana or medical marijuana. 9. Ron Paul has introduced federal legislation to legalize it. 10. North Dakota has made it legal and is currently battling the federal government for the right to do so within its own borders. 11. Arnold Schwarzenegger, despite his obvious appreciation for the uses of a completely different variety of this weed vetoed, for the 2nd year in a row, a bill passed in the California legislature with bi-partisan support.http://www.airamerica.com/node/5499 [ Post Comment ] Comment #25 posted by FoM on October 13, 2007 at 21:31:19 PT nuevo mexican I'm not sure that he wants to run. [ Post Comment ] Comment #24 posted by nuevo mexican on October 13, 2007 at 20:15:46 PT Prez Gore should tour with Bruce Springsteen.... DRAFT GORE PETITION GOES OVER 200,000! Sign it if your haven't a long time ago! Draftgore.comAlso:THE TWO CENTS CAMPAIGNShow Al the Money!If you want to do your part to help convince Al Gore to run for President, join our two cents campaign. All you have to do is put two pennies in an envelope, and send them toOffice of the Honorable Al Gore, 2100 West End Avenue, Suite 620, Nashville, TN 37203.http://dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/10/13/184422/57I posted a link to this new and hard to find video the other day, but when I last checked, it wasn't working, so check it out here, while it's up, it's a great song, one of his best, and for right now, one of my favorite songs, like a Neil Young song, that you can't get out of your head!Play it three times and see if you agree FOM!Springsteen: 'Who'll be the last to die for a mistake?' Here's yet more haunting anti war music from Bruce Springsteen - "Last to Die." Chilling.http://guerillawomentn.blogspot.com/2007/10/ springsteen-wholl-be-last-to-die-for.htmlLast To Die Lyrics by Bruce SpringsteenWe took the highway till the road went black We marked Truth Or Consequences on our map* A voice drifted up from the radio We saw the voice from long agoWho'll be the last to die for a mistake The last to die for a mistake Whose blood will spill, whose heart will break Who'll be the last to die for a mistakeThe kids asleep in the backseat We're just countin' the miles you and me We don't measure the blood we've drawn anymore We just stack the bodies outside the doorWho'll be the last to die for a mistake The last to die for a mistake Whose blood will spill, whose heart will break Who'll be the last to die for a mistakeThe wise men were all fools What to doThe sun sets in flames as the city burns Another day gone down as the night turns And I hold you here in my heart As things fall apartA downtown window flushed with light Faces of the dead at five (faces of the dead at five) A martyr's silent eyes Petition the drivers as we pass byWho'll be the last to die for a mistake The last to die for a mistake Whose blood will spill, whose heart will break Who'll be the last to dieWho'll be the last to die for a mistake The last to die for a mistake Darlin' your tyrants and kings form the same fate Strung up at your city gates And you're the last to die for a mistakeSpread far and wide, this can work:Nationwide Strike: Wednesday, 10/17/2007Our mission: As this administration as well as the elected Democratic congress has ignored our constant pleas to end the Iraq war and deal responsibly with domestic issues here at home. A few fellow bloggers and myself have proposed a nationwide work stoppage on October 17,2007. We encourage all working people to call in sick or whatever excuse that may be had to make an economic impact in hopes of bringing attention to the Iraq war and other important issues facing the United States today. http://shutitdown101707.blogspot.com/ [ Post Comment ] Comment #23 posted by ekim on October 13, 2007 at 18:39:25 PT charmed quark please give a thought about stating what you said along with figh4freedom at Oprahs site F4F has been sitting all alone since his post.Wish Montel would respond calling on Oprah to have him on as a guest along with many others.Good luck and many good thoughts go out to you CQComment #21 posted by fight_4_freedom on October 11, 2007 at 17:25:06 PT: I just started a thread on Oprah's website. Let's hope it turns into a discussion.http://cannabisnews.com/news/23/thread23399.shtml the alternative medicine forum http://blog.leap.cc/ [ Post Comment ] Comment #22 posted by FoM on October 13, 2007 at 07:51:39 PT charmed quark I understand what you are saying. I had a doctor years ago that was very generous with pain meds and then he moved far away and that is when I had to give up pain medicine and it was horrible but the meds were killing me so it was best to stop even though it was hard. Since then I just avoid doctors because they don't really care from my personal experience. We should be able to help ourselves if we can but that doesn't make them any money. [ Post Comment ] Comment #21 posted by charmed quark on October 13, 2007 at 07:44:45 PT Cannabis as Medicine NOW! Vent time. My personal situation is making my tolerance for these politicians really, really low.I am getting seriously tired of this whole debate. There have now been plenty of gold standard double-blind studies to indicate canabinoids as a 2nd to 3rd tier approach to neuropathic pain and spasticity. But here's the reality known by us who are suffering:Unfortunately, until there are major profits to be made, the government and the pharmaceuticals will oppose any use of these drugs. There is a lot of work going on to develop patentable cannabinoids in addition to Marinol ( which is a low-profit orphan drug that has been allowed to be labeled only for AIDS and cancer) so maybe at some point in the far future the profits will be high enough and we might be allowed to use these drugs. But not now.I just read an "Ask the Doctor" column. A women wrote that her father is in severe MS neuropathic pain. He went through all the conventional treatments without good results until finally getting pretty good results with Marinol. But his new pain doctor wouldn't continue the prescription because Marinol is not indicated for this and so wanted him to go back on the ineffective meds. The doctor whose column the daughter wrote to agreed, saying there were no indications for using Marinol for pain, so the father is out of luck and should just suck it up.The same situation is occurring with me. I spent years trying all the conventional drugs - mostly tricyclics and neuroleptics ( seizure drugs) and various drugs for spasms (including stuff like Valium) before finding that cannabinoids stop both the pain and spasms as well as my extremely severe migraines and also finally allowed me to get a good nights sleep. My wonderful pain doctor prescribed Marinol for me which, while not as good as the natural stuff, was good enough for me. I was able to get off handfuls of drugs that were totally disabling me. Marinol worked for years.Sadly, my pain doctor recently died. I'm now signed up for an initial visit with a new pain doctor but they are so busy I have to wait 3 months to get in. Meanwhile, my old prescription is almost used up. My neurologist won't prescribe me Marinol because he's concerned about the cognitive effects. What a joke! He just had me try a new neuroleptic called Lyrica. Not only did it make me incredibly dizzy and fatigued, it caused horrible mental confusion. I quit using it when I drove through a red light because I couldn't figure out what I was suppose to do at a red light. And he's worried about Marinol! This is similar to what all the neuroleptics have done to me. Compared to these drugs, cannabinoids are truly benign. I also don't want to use opioids due to their side effects. I just hope the pain doctor agrees to prescribing Marinol off-label. But I'm betting he won't.If I wasn't the sole support of 4 other people, I would quit my job and move to the West Coast or maybe Vancouver, get a job that didn't require drug testing and get on a medical cannabis program. But in a few years I'll probably be unable to work and this will all be moot. Without a cannabinoid, it'll probably be sooner rather than later.We need to make our own medical decisions. We need to be the masters of our bodies and health. Not the government and, I'm beginning to feel, not even doctors should be allowed to be the only gateway. [ Post Comment ] Comment #20 posted by FoM on October 13, 2007 at 06:45:30 PT OverwhelmSam I believe we should work hard if we want to have a home and a good life for our family. If it doesn't matter having creature comforts then that is another thing. I always wanted a little home in the country but it takes lots of work, lots of money, self discipline and planning to achieve that goal. Only the love of money is a bad thing in my mind. [ Post Comment ] Comment #19 posted by OverwhelmSam on October 12, 2007 at 23:03:32 PT Money Is A Necessary Commodity We are not hunter gathers living in the cave days anymore so we live by trade. Trading money for a sandwich is much more efficient than trading horseshoes for bread and ham. Remember, money is the ROOT of evil because of what some people will do for it. Money itself is not evil. It is just paper with green printing (in this country at least). [ Post Comment ] Comment #18 posted by The GCW on October 12, 2007 at 21:31:29 PT That's 96,000,000 puffs, Sir. According to Clearwater RCMP Cpl. Mike Savage it must be important $&$ self serving to convert cannabis (marijuana) plants into joints.In this case 2,000 plants could have produced more than 4.8 million joints.(That must be over 96 million puffs, Sir, yes sir.)http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v07/n1167/a08.html?397)How many joint$ can fit in a police officer’$ brain? All of them; it’$ a trillion dollar industry.( [ Post Comment ] Comment #17 posted by FoM on October 12, 2007 at 20:38:40 PT OverwhelmSam Those that hate Al Gore for his efforts in global climate change have reasons. Think about how much money it will cost when we have to relocate people so some don't want to believe it or they would get busy building adequate protection for areas that will flood. Money is to be made by some and not spent. If the earth warms it won't hurt everywhere in the USA so those people who don't care will chase the money to melting Alaska and that makes them happy. That's why they hate. Money is a god to certain people and that truly is sad. [ Post Comment ] Comment #16 posted by OverwhelmSam on October 12, 2007 at 20:07:58 PT FoM The people are beginning to realize that the politicians don't care what the people want. They just tell us whatever we want to hear so they can get elected and then turn on us and tell us to shove it. Some, like Romney, don't even wait until they're elected.There are a lot of haters and the politicians love to sell hate. I heard a talk show host dumping on Al Gore today because he won the Nobel Peace prize for his work on global warming. I think it's great Al worked heard and received an award, why would anyone hate him for that? [ Post Comment ] Comment #15 posted by FoM on October 12, 2007 at 19:51:10 PT OverwhelmSam I don't believe we will get fooled again. We are stronger and smarter now then we have ever been. We have been following this all very closely and we have made up our minds on where we stand. As long as the votes are counted properly we will win this time. We must. It's that serious to me and many people. [ Post Comment ] Comment #14 posted by OverwhelmSam on October 12, 2007 at 19:44:17 PT Don't Get Me Wrong Hope At my age, clean shaven, dry cleaned clothes, late model car, I don't really have a lot to worry about from law enforcement personally. However, I am definately against the war on marijuana as a matter of principle.Let's pray, We don't get fooled again in the next election.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkRxLsO0zR4&NR=1 [ Post Comment ] Comment #13 posted by Hope on October 12, 2007 at 18:39:01 PT The laws against and the punishments for using cannabis are truly, "Cruel and unusual". [ Post Comment ] Comment #12 posted by Hope on October 12, 2007 at 18:38:08 PT OverwhelmSam "I've decided it doesn't matter a lot to me personally..."It's not so much about that it needs to be "legal", to me, it's the fact that they, the prohibitors, "preventionists", law enforcement, and government are hurting people, and whole families, because of it. That's got to stop."We must be getting closer to the legalization of marijuana."I hope so. That will mean the worst of the persecution and cruelty to people because of their use of the herb will end.No body should be persecuted, prosecuted, imprisoned, fined or anything, for wanting to use or using that plant.That's what it's about...this fight...for me.It's illegality is a slap in the face to liberty and justice.Yes, it should be legal, so that the persecutions, prosecutions and grievously immoral punishments will end. [ Post Comment ] Comment #11 posted by OverwhelmSam on October 12, 2007 at 18:00:56 PT BuBye Romney Romney is a disgrace in the name of the Republican party. I'm glad to see marijuana coming out as an issue in the Presidential race. We must be getting closer to the legalization of marijuana. I've decided it doesn't matter a lot to me personally, as I'm ready to smoke this bowl in the privacy of my home and there's nothing Romney can do about it. Click! [ Post Comment ] Comment #10 posted by mayan on October 12, 2007 at 17:39:15 PT Oops! I put up the wrong link. Some folks out there are conducting their own investigations trying to figure out what really happened. Hats off to them! Some interesting stuff... "Flight 77" The White Plane (explosive new evidence from CIT!): http://911blogger.com/node/11959 [ Post Comment ] Comment #9 posted by mayan on October 12, 2007 at 17:01:07 PT Romney He should drop out of the race immediately as he can only make more of an ass of himself. I'm already tired of the dog and pony show. THE WAY OUT IS THE WAY IN..."Flight 77" The White Plane (explosive new evidence from CIT!) http://cannabisnews.com/news/23/thread23404.shtmlNew Eyewitness To WTC Basement Level Explosions: http://infowars.com/articles/sept11/new_eyewitness_wtc_basement_level_explosions.htmBEFORE 9/11: http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2006/12/before-911.html9-11 Truth at Mount Rushmore (pics): http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/Rushmore/9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB - OUR NATION IS IN PERIL: http://www.911sharethetruth.com/ [ Post Comment ] Comment #8 posted by whig on October 12, 2007 at 15:59:54 PT Take Bill Hicks' advice If you want to learn how to fly, start by learning how to take off from the ground. That way, if it doesn't work, you don't get too badly hurt.This has been a public service announcement. [ Post Comment ] Comment #7 posted by FoM on October 12, 2007 at 15:08:24 PT Romney Says He Speaks for Republican Wing of GOP October 12, 2007 SPARKS, Nev. (AP) - Republican Mitt Romney took shots Friday at Rudy Giuliani, Hillary Clinton and GOP politicians in Washington, saying his party needs a "new face" with real-world experience to carry Nevada and other swing states in the next presidential election.The former Massachusetts governor also said he opposes medical marijuana laws because they are a "trojan horse" for legalizing the drug, which he said is a "plague to our children and a plague to our country."Continuing his recent stepped up criticism of his rival Republican and former New York City Mayor Giuliani, Romney described himself in a speech to the Nevada Federation of Republican women as the candidate who "speaks for the Republican wing of the Republican Party."Copyright: 2007 The Associated Presshttp://www.kren.com/Global/story.asp?S=7206981&nav=menu616_2 [ Post Comment ] Comment #6 posted by OverwhelmSam on October 12, 2007 at 14:44:19 PT Like the Lazy Pothead Stereotypes The general stereotype is that if you smoke pot, you will be a lazy bum living in your parents basement. But no one sees a skid row drunk laying in an alley with torn and tattered clothes sucking down a bottle of cheap wine and thinks that everyone who drinks alcohol will be like that. People torque their own minds over their own total misinformation. [ Post Comment ] Comment #5 posted by museman on October 12, 2007 at 13:55:07 PT 'marijuana' profiles "Even some opponents of medical marijuana concede it's unlikely that a bedridden cancer patient, treated with marijuana, will burgle houses or rob liquor stores to feed his habit." So what records are there to support such a hypotheses?Thieves smoke pot, drink beer, watch TV, do other drugs, but their main addiction is just stealing. Here's the profile; 'Hippies are thieves because they smoke pot' 'long-haired unkempt people will rob you for their pot fix' 'people who smoke pot are hippies and thieves'and then there is the supposed 'benevolent compromise;' "...even clean cut 'productive citizens,' with jobs, real-estate, and new cars can smoke pot and still function efficiently.""productive citizens" = SLAVES [ Post Comment ] Comment #4 posted by Toker00 on October 12, 2007 at 12:17:31 PT Save your money. No need for a study. And quit pretending you didn't hear us tell you already that there IS a safer way to deliver the medicine.It is called a VAPORIZER. So stop with the smoke screen.Toke. [ Post Comment ] Comment #3 posted by OverwhelmSam on October 12, 2007 at 12:03:56 PT My Question Still Stands If marijuana is so dangerous, please show the public the sick, dying and dead from marijuana use. Otherwise, it is just a fraud being perpetrated upon the people. [ Post Comment ] Comment #2 posted by Truth on October 12, 2007 at 09:07:10 PT Frist of all... "Former Sen. Bill Frist, also a doctor, has countered that the research on the issue is not conclusive: "I believe that marijuana is a dangerous drug and that there are less dangerous medicines offering the same relief from pain and other medical symptoms." Show me one. Show me one that hasn't killed anyone. Bill Frist ignores his oath. [ Post Comment ] Comment #1 posted by FoM on October 12, 2007 at 08:39:50 PT OT: Dutch Ban Hallucinogenic Mushroom Sales October 12, 2007AMSTERDAM, Netherlands (AP) - The Netherlands will ban the sale of hallucinogenic mushrooms, the government announced Friday, rolling back one element of the country's permissive drug policy after a teenager on a school visit jumped to her death after taking the fungus.URL: http://www.wtopnews.com/index.php?nid=383&sid=1212055 [ Post Comment ] Post Comment