cannabisnews.com: MMJ a Decoy in Effort To Legalize All Drugs
MMJ a Decoy in Effort To Legalize All Drugs
Posted by CN Staff on September 28, 2007 at 05:43:48 PT
By Brenda Chabot, Guest Columnist
Source: Daily Bulletin
California -- The Inland Valley Drug Free Community Coalition stands firmly against medical-marijuana dispensaries. We have a tough fight in front of us, but one that we are winning - and it's due in large part to the efforts of political leaders, community volunteers and parents who are standing up against the plight of medical-marijuana dispensaries.
Leadership in this community has helped to expose the dangers of smoked marijuana and the dangers of allowing marijuana shops to operate in our communities. We applaud Ontario and Norco, just to name a few, who have had the courage to stand up and ban these dispensaries outright from their cities. We want other cities to do the same, especially those who continue to sit on the fence with a moratorium. Research has not demonstrated that smoked marijuana can be helpful as medicine. Marinol is a medicine - smoked marijuana is not. Unfortunately, positive coverage of the medical-marijuana debate has contributed to misperception that marijuana is harmless or may even have health benefits. Interviews with teens found that some believe that marijuana can cure cancer and other serious diseases. Any determination of a drug's valid medical use must be based on the best available science undertaken by medical professionals. The Institute of Medicine conducted a comprehensive study in 1999 to assess the potential health benefits of marijuana and its constituent cannabinoids. The study concluded that smoking marijuana is not recommended for the treatment of any disease condition. In addition, there are more effective medications currently available. For those reasons, the Institute of Medicine concluded that there is little future in smoked marijuana as a medically approved medication. Advocates have promoted the use of marijuana to treat medical conditions such as glaucoma. However, this is a good example of more effective medicines already available. According to the Institute of Medicine, there are six classes of drugs and multiple surgical techniques that are available to treat glaucoma that effectively slow the progression of this disease by reducing high intraocular pressure. In other studies, smoked marijuana has been shown to cause a variety of health problems, including cancer, respiratory problems, increased heart rate and loss of motor skills. Furthermore, marijuana can affect the immune system by impairing the ability of T-cells to fight off infections, demonstrating that marijuana can do more harm than good in people with already compromised immune systems. In addition, in a recent study by the Mayo Clinic, THC was shown to be less effective than standard treatments in helping cancer patients regain lost appetites. The American Medical Association recommends that marijuana remain a Schedule I controlled substance. As a result of such research, a synthetic THC drug, Marinol, has been available to the public since 1985. The Food and Drug Administration has determined that Marinol is safe, effective and has therapeutic benefits for use as a treatment for nausea and vomiting associated with cancer chemotherapy, and as a treatment of weight loss in patients with AIDS. However, it does not produce the harmful health effects associated with smoking marijuana. It's also important to realize that the campaign to allow marijuana to be used as medicine is a tactical maneuver in an overall strategy to completely legalize all drugs. Prolegalization groups have transformed the debate from decriminalizing drug use to one of compassion and care for people with serious diseases. Marijuana is a dangerous, addictive drug that poses significant health threats to users and to the community in which marijuana is sold. Marijuana has no medical value that can't be met more effectively by legal drugs. Marijuana users are far more likely to use other drugs like cocaine and heroin than nonmarijuana users, and this raises additional concerns for those trying to purchase marijuana in our Inland Valley cities. Drug legalizers use "medical marijuana" as red herring in effort to advocate broader legalization of drug use. The Inland Valley Drug Free Community Coalition (www.ivdfc.org) remains committed to educating our neighbors about the dangers of drug use and the harm that medical-marijuana dispensaries bring to our cities. Brenda Chabot is executive director of the Inland Valley Drug Free Community Coalition, http://www.ivdfc.orgComplete Title: Medical Marijuana a Decoy in Effort To Legalize All DrugsSource: Inland Valley Daily Bulletin (Ontario, CA)Author: Brenda Chabot, Guest ColumnistPublished: September 28, 2007Copyright: 2007 Los Angeles Newspaper GroupContact: letters dailybulletin.comWebsite: http://www.dailybulletin.com/CannabisNews Medical Marijuana Archiveshttp://cannabisnews.com/news/list/medical.shtml
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Comment #85 posted by FoM on October 01, 2007 at 05:13:22 PT
whig
I am really only interested in reforming the laws on cannabis but I try to find a safer way for those that believe we should be able to do whatever we want. Drugs are mostly toxic but cannabis is way safer and that's why I care about reforming cannabis laws. I never was exposed to MDMA so I can't even comment on it since I know nothing about it.
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Comment #84 posted by whig on September 30, 2007 at 23:46:25 PT
FoM
I know that this is a board about cannabis and I don't want to say too much about MDMA but I do want to answer the idea that we should end the drug war by saying that we should look at each thing for its own properties, benefits, risks, and uncertainties. I don't feel that we should treat heroin like cannabis.
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Comment #83 posted by whig on September 30, 2007 at 23:39:08 PT
afterburner
Only PATENT pharmas are best. Those old things that have been around for decades or even much longer with a historical record of effectiveness? Forget them.Now there are things which are invented which are new and better than things which they replace, reformulations as Toker00 called them. MDMA is an invention, but it isn't PATENTED because it was discovered too long ago.
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Comment #82 posted by afterburner on September 30, 2007 at 22:16:49 PT
Pharma Knows Best -- X<(
Synthetic puppies and standardized kittens
Pharma knows bestArtificial horses ridden by plastic cowhands
Pharma knows bestReplication is better than Creation
Pharma knows bestIf it costs a lot
It's really hot
Pharma knows bestReality is messy
Mutations are guessy
Pharma knows bestCreativity is not consistency
Diversity is divisivity
Pharma knows best
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Comment #81 posted by whig on September 30, 2007 at 20:51:21 PT
Toker00
You could call it your safer formulation, I guess. :)
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Comment #80 posted by whig on September 30, 2007 at 20:50:26 PT
Safer
MDMA is safer than meth.
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Comment #79 posted by whig on September 30, 2007 at 20:49:20 PT
How powerful?
MDMA could wipe out war, like an antinuclear antiweapon.
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Comment #78 posted by whig on September 30, 2007 at 20:45:50 PT
Toker00
I don't want meth more available, I want MDMA to be rescheduled. MDMA is Schedule I. It should not be.
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Comment #77 posted by whig on September 30, 2007 at 20:42:19 PT
Toker00
I don't think that drugs which are currently prescribable can be made safer by loosening controls. I certainly think that the war mentality approach needs to end. I certainly hope that we can find ways to reduce violence and other consequences of drug prohibition, if that's what you mean by increasing safety.But as far as making them safer formulations, I don't think that is possible. A pharmaceutical medicine is as safe as they can make it, presumably. They aren't trying to poison us intentionally, I don't think. They are just ignorant of cannabis because cannabis has been kept from them as it has from us.Here I'm speaking of physicians in general who can prescribe the drugs you mentioned, and can do so now.
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Comment #76 posted by Toker00 on September 30, 2007 at 18:40:02 PT
whig
Why can't I get this point across? I'm referring to the dangers of unsure dosage and the impurities in Black Market Drugs when I talk about legalizing and reformulating but EVEN THE LEGAL DRUGS THAT ARE NOW PRESCRIBED, YES, LEGALLY, COULD BE MADE SAFER IF PROFIT WAS NOT THE ULTIMATE FACTOR IN MARKETING THEM. If the point was to legalize and reformulate drugs into safer substances than what are now available not only on the Black market but the so called Free market as well, then ALL drugs could be used with less damage to the individual and to society. As it stands they rape us with unsafe LEGAL drugs when we can get them prescribed or can even afford them and our only alternative is an unregulated and even less safe Black Market drugs. Drug use is another issue, like politics, where we have been driven into the Legal-Illegal, Safe-Unsafe, Right-Left, Conservative-Liberal paradigm. Somewhere in-between all of those is where we need to be...Toke.
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Comment #75 posted by FoM on September 30, 2007 at 16:04:50 PT
whig
I do know they are different. The reason I picked the one when it was legal was because the health food store manager said it was stronger then the kind that is Mormon Tea. I have never had the kind they call Mormon Tea just Ma Huang.
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Comment #74 posted by whig on September 30, 2007 at 15:11:51 PT
FoM
Mormon tea is Ephedra viridis, I think. Ma huang is Ephedra sinica.
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Comment #73 posted by FoM on September 30, 2007 at 12:57:20 PT
whig
I didn't notice that Ephedra took away my appetite but it helped me breathe easier but like I said it elevated my heart rate so I stopped.
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Comment #72 posted by FoM on September 30, 2007 at 12:54:32 PT
whig
I made tea out of the plant itself when you could buy an ounce for $1.30 or close to that back in 96. It really elevated my heart rate so I stopped using it. Excerpt: Ma Huang, commonly known as Ephedra (Ephedra sinica), contains the alkaloid ephedrine, which is an adrenalin-like stimulant that provides quick relief for allergies, asthma and other respiratory problems. It dilates the bronchial tubes, resulting in deeper breathing and increased oxygen intake, and has antihistamine. Dosage is 2-6 grams in a decoction. ** http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-160872963.html
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Comment #71 posted by whig on September 30, 2007 at 12:48:17 PT
"Demon Rum"
Is also made from Sugar.Cannabis doesn't hurt anyone.
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Comment #70 posted by whig on September 30, 2007 at 12:16:14 PT
Another thing about sugar
It's highly addictive, I think.
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Comment #69 posted by whig on September 30, 2007 at 12:14:43 PT
Sweetener
Stevia rebaudiani is a natural herb from South America that is very sweet without sugar.
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Comment #68 posted by whig on September 30, 2007 at 12:12:59 PT
FoM
Mormon tea is probably a safer approach than synthetic amphetamine if you need something to help control weight besides diet and exercise.
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Comment #67 posted by whig on September 30, 2007 at 12:09:53 PT
Coca cola
HFCS and artificial sweeteners are all they use in American product. That's crack in a can.Don't make us trouble your bananas.
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Comment #66 posted by FoM on September 30, 2007 at 12:07:12 PT
whig
You've never had a weight problem but for people that can barely eat anything and still gain weight it helped back in the 60s. I think proper nutrition and the elimination of all the fun food works but it isn't fun that way. I am telling you what people thought back years ago. If you needed to drop a few pounds to get in a special dress mother's little helper's worked.
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Comment #65 posted by FoM on September 30, 2007 at 12:02:59 PT
Toker00
The drugs are legal that I mentioned. They are the same as meth or at least one of the drugs is like meth. They are close in type.
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Comment #64 posted by whig on September 30, 2007 at 12:01:41 PT
Sugar is a stimulant
It has a very quick onset of effect, too.What is worse than sugar?High Fructose Corn Syrup. Artificial sweeteners.
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Comment #63 posted by whig on September 30, 2007 at 11:56:09 PT
Optical illusions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR13L8OFCbk
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Comment #62 posted by whig on September 30, 2007 at 11:53:28 PT
Sugar
By the way, I consider sugar to be a very powerful and potentially dangerous drug. Too much sugar can cause very bad health problems including not only obesity but diabetes and even heart disease.
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Comment #61 posted by whig on September 30, 2007 at 11:44:24 PT
Toker00
These drugs you speak of are legal now. Amphetamine is legal. Cocaine is legal. Opiates are legal. All can be prescribed or dispensed by physicians.Cannabis is prohibited. Cannabis is schedule 1. None of these things you talk about "ending the war on" are even illegal.
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Comment #60 posted by whig on September 30, 2007 at 11:42:27 PT
FoM
Amphetamine is not a good solution to weight control, in my opinion. Better diet and exercise and other ways of managing weight exist without drugs. Unless someone is morbidly obese, at which point medical interventions may be needed, simple things like abstaining from junk food and sugar may be all that someone needs.
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Comment #59 posted by Toker00 on September 30, 2007 at 11:38:11 PT
FoM
What if they made a legal cocaine or heroin that was as safe as the "speed" you say should be loosened up on, in making you feel good about yourself, would you at a younger age "try it"? If they made a safer alcohol that got you buzzed but at a much lower degree no matter how much you drank wouldn't that be better? What if they just legalized all the drugs that are at least as safe as alcohol is now? That would be MOST illegal drugs. Making drugs legal is more than just saying it is OK to take drugs. Its also means that these drugs would be available only in safer and more regulated form and at a cost that would prohibit the need of Black Market Options. It's not saying let's legalize STREET meth, coke or heroin. Even Cannabis would be safer to consume if it were legal.I'm not second guessing your reasons for not promoting all Drug legalization, just offering thoughts as to why some of us think more drugs than just cannabis are safer or would be made safer than already legal alcohol. Perhaps alcohol could be tweaked into a safer substance instead of being subjected to prohibition again, not that anyone is suggesting that.Toke.
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Comment #58 posted by FoM on September 30, 2007 at 08:44:04 PT
Toker00
I better clarify. I would not use any form of amphetamine now because of my age. If I was young again then I would.
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Comment #57 posted by FoM on September 30, 2007 at 08:41:05 PT
Toker00
Yes I would. I even think that by loosening the strangle hold on amphetamines it might help with the obesity problem young people seem to have and in the long run they would be healthier. Picture the people at Woodstock. They were not overweight. Meth is shootable and dirty and that is what can cause HepC and other blood borne illnesses. I don't want people dieing because of dirty drugs.
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Comment #56 posted by Toker00 on September 30, 2007 at 08:29:09 PT
FoM
Sorry. I wasn't trying to be accusatory. Yeah, there really is no argument for Cannabis being illegal.Hope you don't mind me asking because it is probably a goofy question to begin with, but would you seek a prescription for speed if it were someday easier to get than it is now? I just assume you don't use now...and won't...but if you were younger, healthier, would you?Toke.
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Comment #55 posted by Toker00 on September 30, 2007 at 08:22:47 PT
Dankhank
I am very sorry to learn about your grief. I was prosecuted for DWI twenty years ago and I never once thought it was unjustified punishment for my stupidity. Two years of my life I spent on probation and thousands of dollars in fines and other imposed punishments. I got it. I got it real quick. It was MY responsibility to drive safely. I violated that responsibility. Simple as that. Self destruction is an unconscious act that needs help coming to the conscience and being corrected. Laws against Drunk Driving are the most sane (sane used very lightly here) ones on the book. If we could just remove the insane (insane used very heavily here) ones against Cannabis...Toke.
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Comment #54 posted by FoM on September 30, 2007 at 08:22:30 PT
Toker00
I know that alcohol is bad but to compare everything to alcohol doesn't make sense to me. Alcohol is legal and amphetamines are legal but very controlled. Since we already have amphetamines loosen up on them like I said and that would help people who want speed to at least have a cleaner and safer substance. Cannabis isn't even in my thoughts. When we were involved in drug prevention years ago everyone including the instructor said that marijuana should be legal.
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Comment #53 posted by Toker00 on September 30, 2007 at 08:09:43 PT
Dankhank
I get exactly what you are saying. Why is there a discrepancy between the damage caused by either legal or illegal drugs? Is the damage justified because the substance is legal? NO. Why then is it justifiable to keep ANY drug safer than alcohol banned and yet sell alcohol on every street corner were cannabis is a Black Market Option but not a Legal Option? It's not. It's the system. They like it like this. Cannabis use wouldn't allow for all the court cases of child abuse or drunk driving or spousal abuse or public nuisance or the other things that keep our Courts and Lawyers and Prosecutors and Prison Industrial Complex thriving and our Human Rights violated for Profit. Until we base our Government on Truth instead of Corporate Law we will continue to be abused by those who make the Laws and enforce the Lies.FoM, alcohol has caused more damage to society than any other drug on the Market, Free or Black. It keeps Men violent, women submissive, children abused and the system that profits on our Human Nature happy with bloated budgets to "correct" that Nature. Meanwhile, Cannabis users suffer the hate and indignation of the ignorant masses just as much as the deservedly illegal drugs. No profit can be made from a safer substance and no relief from the addiction of the other, legal or illegal, drugs. Why? Misery has become Profitable. Suffering is much more economically gainful than a happy, well being populace. MUCH MORE. Toke.
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Comment #52 posted by FoM on September 30, 2007 at 07:42:27 PT
One More Thing
I believe if they would loosen up on diet pills (amphetamines) then people who have a need for speed could get a much safer product and that would push meth back a little.
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Comment #51 posted by FoM on September 30, 2007 at 07:39:18 PT
Dankhank
I wanted to add that if a person is strung out on meth and cooks it and sells it to feed his habit I consider that a person that is addicted and not using good judgement. People that don't use the substance and want to sell it for profit are those I have no sympathy for.
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Comment #50 posted by FoM on September 30, 2007 at 07:04:04 PT
Dankhank
Every person that I met back in the 70s that stayed strung out on meth is dead except this one person. They all died young and violently. I think that alcohol and prescription drugs shouldn't be allowed to be advertised on tv like how they treat cigarettes. Again do no harm.
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Comment #49 posted by FoM on September 30, 2007 at 06:46:30 PT
Dankhank
I understand why you feel the way you do. I really dislike alcohol. My mother drank all the time even when she was pregnant with me. When she was sober she was very nice but when she was drunk it was terrible. I have always said that a person strung out on hard drugs shouldn't go to jail and needs help but I have no sympathy for those who make meth and sell it. Do no harm is my belief.
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Comment #48 posted by Dankhank on September 29, 2007 at 21:43:29 PT
effects ...
FoM ...the 17th of this month was the 30th birthday of my son, who was killed by a drunk driver at 26 years old.so that fellow got shot in the face, but still lives, so Meth is bad, but, My son is dead and drinking alcohol is OK in your mind?It's not the drug, it's the mind that is bad.You know of five or ten people that screwed up on "hard drugs" so you would continue a drug war on those drugs, even though we know what a drug war is about?Why not have another war on alcohol, oh wait, my mom-in-law died of lung cancer ... but cigarettes are legal, still?what confusion reigns ...
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Comment #47 posted by observer on September 29, 2007 at 11:37:13 PT
propaganda analysis
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California -- The Inland Valley Drug Free Community Coalition stands firmly against medical-marijuana dispensaries .
(Sentence 1) re: "Community" - The survival of society is assured, -- says the propaganda of prohibition -- as long as drug users are punished (jailed). (Survival of Society (propaganda theme 3) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme3.htm#3 ) re: "Drug Free" - Any mention of lessening the harshness of drug laws is portrayed as a sinful "legalization". Only total prohibition (or more jailings) will be righteous. (Total Prohibition or Access (propaganda theme 7) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme7.htm#7 )
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We have a tough fight in front of us, but one that we are winning - and it's due in large part to the efforts of political leaders, community volunteers and parents who are standing up against the plight of medical-marijuana dispensaries .
(Sentence 2) re: "community" - Because of prohibition (prohibitionists assure us), society is protected: the community is safe, and the nation is saved. (Survival of Society (propaganda theme 3) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme3.htm#3 )
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Leadership in this community has helped to expose the dangers of smoked marijuana and the dangers of allowing marijuana shops to operate in our communities .
(Sentence 3) re: "community", "communities" - The health of the "community" (read: government) is assured, prohibitionists explain, because drug users are punished. Jailing drug users is thus painted as upholding society. (Survival of Society (propaganda theme 3) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme3.htm#3 )
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Interviews with teens found that some believe that marijuana can cure cancer and other serious diseases .
(Sentence 9) re: "cancer" - The rhetoric of prohibition asserts that insanity, crime, and violence are caused by drugs, or are controlled by prohibition. (Madness,Crime,Violence,Illness (propaganda theme 2) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme2.htm#2 ) re: "teens" - "Chemicals have long been inextricably linked in prohibitionist literature with the ... corruption of young people." [W.White,1979] (Children Corrupted (propaganda theme 5) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme5.htm#5 )
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In other studies, smoked marijuana has been shown to cause a variety of health problems, including cancer, respiratory problems, increased heart rate and loss of motor skills .
(Sentence 18) re: "cancer", "problems", "respiratory problems", "health problems" - Prohibitionist propaganda claims that horrible dangers are caused by "drugs." (Madness,Crime,Violence,Illness (propaganda theme 2) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme2.htm#2 )
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However, it does not produce the harmful health effects associated with smoking marijuana .
(Sentence 24) re: "harmful" - Prohibitionists claim any use of currently illegal drugs cause death, illness, lunacy, mania, melancholy, and all means of sin and degradation. (Madness,Crime,Violence,Illness (propaganda theme 2) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme2.htm#2 )
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It's also important to realize that the campaign to allow marijuana to be used as medicine is a tactical maneuver in an overall strategy to completely legalize all drugs .
(Sentence 25) re: "legalize all drugs", "legalize" - With God on Their Side (prohibitionists assure us), only the continued rooting out of the sinful drug users (total prohibition) will do. All else is portrayed as the slippery slope to total legalization of all drugs for toddlers. (Total Prohibition or Access (propaganda theme 7) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme7.htm#7 )
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Prolegalization groups have transformed the debate from decriminalizing drug use to one of compassion and care for people with serious diseases .
(Sentence 26) re: "drug use" - "This strategy equates the use and abuse of drugs and implies that it is impossible to use the particular drug or drugs in question without physical, mental, and moral deterioration." [W.White,1979] (Use is Abuse (propaganda theme 4) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme4.htm#alluseisabuse )
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Marijuana is a dangerous, addictive drug that poses significant health threats to users and to the community in which marijuana is sold .
(Sentence 27) re: "health threats", "dangerous", "addictive" - Drugs, scream prohibitionists, cause all bad things in life: crime, violence, insanity, etc. If not for prohibition (i.e., jailing drug users), then criminality, violence and psychotic behavior would explode upon the land, the prohibitionist assures us. (Madness,Crime,Violence,Illness (propaganda theme 2) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme2.htm#2 ) re: "community" - Prohibitionists assert that the survival of the community, society, the nation, the world, etc. are at stake. Only continued and increased punishments for drug users can be contemplated, because, say prohibitionists, society will otherwise fall apart. (Survival of Society (propaganda theme 3) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme3.htm#3 )
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Marijuana has no medical value that can't be met more effectively by legal drugs .
(Sentence 28) re: "no medical value" - Drug policy options are presented as either total prohibition, or as total "legalization." No middle ground is contemplated in the "zero-tolerance" world of prohibition. Absolute prohibition executed with religious fervor and purpose! (Total Prohibition or Access (propaganda theme 7) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme7.htm#7 )
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Marijuana users are far more likely to use other drugs like cocaine and heroin than nonmarijuana users, and this raises additional concerns for those trying to purchase marijuana in our Inland Valley cities .
(Sentence 29) re: "Marijuana users" - Any use of an illegal drug is deemed to be "abuse," weasels the propaganda of prohibition. (After all - it is illegal!) (Use is Abuse (propaganda theme 4) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme4.htm#alluseisabuse ) re: "use other drugs" - The rhetoric of prohibition exploits ignorance of the effects of drugs. We are told that the substance in question must be bad, for is it not evident that it 'leads to' the the harder (more ceremonially evil) stuff? (Use is Abuse, Gateway (propaganda theme 4) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme4.htm#4 )
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Drug legalizers use "medical marijuana" as red herring in effort to advocate broader legalization of drug use .
(Sentence 30) re: "drug use" - Prohibition propaganda claims that all use of any "drug" is abuse. (Use is Abuse (propaganda theme 4) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme4.htm#alluseisabuse ) re: "legalizers", "legalization" - Onward prohibitionist drug warriors, fighting the epidemic and scourge in the battles of the war against drugs! (Drugs declared evil by politicians, that is.) (Total Prohibition or Access (propaganda theme 7) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme7.htm#7 ) re: "Drug legalizers", "legalizers" - People who step forward in disagreement with prohibition are attacked and sometimes jailed. (Dissent Attacked (propaganda theme 8) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme8.htm#8 )
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The Inland Valley Drug Free Community Coalition (www.ivdfc.org) remains committed to educating our neighbors about the dangers of drug use and the harm that medical-marijuana dispensaries bring to our cities .
(Sentence 31) re: "dangers of drug", "harm", "dangers" - Drugs, scream prohibitionists, cause all bad things in life: crime, violence, insanity, etc. If not for prohibition (i.e., jailing drug users), then criminality, violence and psychotic behavior would explode upon the land, the prohibitionist assures us. (Madness,Crime,Violence,Illness (propaganda theme 2) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme2.htm#2 ) re: "Community" - The health of the "community" (read: government) is assured, prohibitionists explain, because drug users are punished. Jailing drug users is thus painted as upholding society. (Survival of Society (propaganda theme 3) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme3.htm#3 ) re: "drug use" - Prohibitionists try to hammer in the idea that 'all use is abuse.' The rhetoric of prohibition needs to deny that many people can use currently illegal drugs without abusing them. (Use is Abuse (propaganda theme 4) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme4.htm#alluseisabuse ) re: "Drug Free" - Onward prohibitionist drug warriors, fighting the epidemic and scourge in the battles of the war against drugs! (Drugs declared evil by politicians, that is.) (Total Prohibition or Access (propaganda theme 7) http://drugpolicycentral.com/bot/pg/propaganda/theme7.htm#7 )
summary: drugwar_propaganda = 100%
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Comment #46 posted by NikoKun on September 29, 2007 at 11:36:02 PT
whig: Jesus drank wine, didn't he?
Yes, and he also used a cannabis extract in the anointments he used on people. The plant was well used as a key ingredient of medicines and such, farther back in history than even Jesus.
And even though most of the hard religious groups will deny that these days, there are still documentations of it. Sadly prohibitionists have effectively wiped recorded history of such things... Which is why you never hear about hemp or cannabis in history class, despite it's importance to even America's history.Not to mention the use of Hemp. lol That was used for everything from ropes, to clothings, to the first papers...
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Comment #45 posted by FoM on September 29, 2007 at 11:23:31 PT
whig
I agree Alcohol is sneaky but drugs like Meth can really mess up a person's personality. A man that my husband grew up with married a girl back in the 70s. Stick said he was always mellow and a nice guy. They both got into using Meth and one day she picked up a gun and shot him in the face. He lived but that is what I mean about drugs like Meth.
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Comment #44 posted by whig on September 29, 2007 at 11:14:07 PT
FoM
I think alcohol is much sneakier than you realize. Alcoholics have profound personality changes from alcohol.I cannot say that cannabis is any different in terms of changing personalities, though, except that it makes people more gentle and nicer. That seems like a good thing.
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Comment #43 posted by FoM on September 29, 2007 at 10:40:42 PT
whig
I believe alcohol can be one of the worst drugs but the thing with alcohol is a person can sober up the next day and be hungover but back to themselves at least later in the day. Drugs like Cocaine, and Methamphetamine have after effects on the mind and can cause irrational behavior even after a person stops using them for a longer period then alcohol. They are sneaky drugs.
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Comment #42 posted by whig on September 29, 2007 at 10:34:48 PT
Beer and wine are fine :)
Jesus drank wine, didn't he?
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Comment #41 posted by whig on September 29, 2007 at 10:33:12 PT
FoM
I don't think prohibition works but that doesn't mean that drugs can't be very dangerous to oneself and others. Those who drink and drive are clearly dangerous. It's not the alcohol, it's the person who makes that choice to do that, but it's a very serious problem related to alcohol.The relationship is not just incidental, the same person without alcohol would not pose the same threat.Hard drugs can make people act in ways that are dangerous to themselves and others. But it's not made better by prohibition, and certainly not made better by prohibition of cannabis, which encourages non-violence if anything.I think hard alcohol is a hard drug. I don't think it should be illegal, I do think it should be regulated. Hard alcohol is dangerous, not only in its effects upon the user but directly, it is highly flammable for instance.Cannabis is safer.
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Comment #40 posted by FoM on September 29, 2007 at 10:15:04 PT
NikoKun
I believe in individual's rights but what happens when another person's rights hurt another innocent person? That is why I am not for hard drug legalization because I have seen people under the influence mess up other people's lives. Cannabis just doesn't do harm like that.
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Comment #39 posted by NikoKun on September 29, 2007 at 10:04:55 PT
I have to say... as well...
The first time I heard the point made about...
That Marijuana use comes down to, the government and prohibitionists, trying to control the contents of my body and mind, and what I put into my body and mind... And that no one has the right to have authority over what I do with my own body and the choices I make for myself... Anything less would not be freedom.
The moment I heard that point, it was like a switch clicked in my mind... This was such a common sense ideal, it was sooo very key to the concepts of individual rights, and what America was made to stand for, and what freedom really is... That I was confused and bewildered, that at that very moment, Marijuana use had not been instantly legalized by default via that argument. It was so clear to me, so common sense... that I was disgusted that anyone would still oppose legalization after hearing that argument...The concept of individual rights, should be such a strong, unbreakable one... but sadly it is not, and America has devalued that concept, almost beyond repair... -_-People in this world hold their agenda's so strongly (religious, or morals, or profit based), regardless of what is truly right, what the science really says when done right, and what freedom really is... They will willfully ignore freedom, and common sense, and harm anyone regardless, to fulfill that agenda... -_-If this world was a just, free, and common sense world... Marijuana use would be legal, never criminalized, and this issue would never have been an issue in the first place, because individual rights could not, and would not, be ignored.And this argument does not even take into account what the science, economics, and other logic, has to say about legalizing pot... ALL of which are in favor of legalizing pot, when looked at legitimately, unbiasedly, and logically. When conducted properly they all come out in favor of legalization... And any that don't, are obviously looking at it wrong. -_-
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Comment #38 posted by NikoKun on September 29, 2007 at 09:49:08 PT
We need to counter this crap...
What the heck are these people smoking... they deny medical evidence... they bash medical use as a criminal activity or an attempt to legalize...
They base their opinions on religious values that should never be applied to other people, especially those who do not share those values...
And they ignore the thousands of people, or even millions of people that use marijuana medically, whether they know it or not.But look past that... What the hell gives these people the right, to control what I want to put into my own body?They keep bringing up the "Mayo Clinic" which isn't a valid place to get data about medical use, because they have a vendetta against it...These people drive me nuts... they are not winning, and they should not be allowed to think they are... we need to counter these jerks... as long as it is an issue of my right to put what I want into my body, not just medical... We will win, and we will continue to move toward the legalize it side, wining...I think it's time for mass publication of pro-legalization information... I think it's time for mass support of keeping dispensaries open!
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Comment #37 posted by dau on September 29, 2007 at 07:37:01 PT:
Rebuttal pdf
Half of this articles is snarfed from DEA site.
http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/ongoing/marijuana.htmlAnd the article of DEA site was refuted by pdf shown below. Read:
Rebuttal to DEA's "Exposing the Myth of Medical Marijuana"
http://www.dpeg.org/DEArebuttal02.pdf
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Comment #36 posted by FoM on September 29, 2007 at 07:15:44 PT
gloovins
You're welcome. I agree that they are beautiful horses. Our friend needs us and his other friends. I believe we are our brother's keeper. He was in his mid forties when his liver failed.
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Comment #35 posted by afterburner on September 28, 2007 at 23:17:27 PT
Just for Fun: a Toronto Walk down Memory Lane
Artist: Murray Mclauchlin;
Song: Down By The Henry Moore
http://www.kovideo.net/lyrics/m/Mclauchlin-Murray/Down-By-The-Henry-Moore.html{
I walked down to the Kensington Market,
Bought me a fish to fry.
I went to the Silver Dollar,
Looked a stranger in the eye.
A friend of mine says that he don't
Think this town's so wild a sight
But he's got shades all round his soul
And he thinks he's seen the light.Chorus: Singin, don't ya wanna keep on movin'
don't ya wanna get undone
don't ya wanna change from losin'
don't ya wanna have some fun.I went down to the Palm Grove.
I was jumpin' around the room
I was wearin' my sneakers down
And casting away my gloom.
This fat girl came up and grabbed me.
She sat me on her knee.
She said you wrote that Farmer's Song
And she spilled a drink on me.ChorusI went down by the Henry Moore,
Skated on in the square,
The moon above my shoulder
And the ice was in my hair.
Alone, but never lonely,
That's how I like to be.
If I wanna have fun, like a rock n roll bum,
Don't think the worst of me.Chorusx2
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Comment #34 posted by afterburner on September 28, 2007 at 23:04:20 PT
Now the Fire Chiefs Want to Make the Law
CN ON: Stop Selling of Grow-Op Equipment - Fire Chiefs, The Review, (27 Sep 2007)
http://www.mapinc.org/newstcl/v07/n1110/a05.html?176
Toronto just passed a city bylaw prohibiting the growing of cannabis within the city limits:CN ON: Time For City To Grow Op, NOW Magazine, (27 Sep 2007)
http://www.mapinc.org/newstcl/v07/n1108/a06.html?176A Medical Marijuana Exemptee with a federal license to grow medical cannabis addressed the Toronto Council, but his requests for compassionate exceptions for Medical Marijuana Exemptees went unheeded by the city. This in Canada, a country where Medical Marijuana is legal for a select few!
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Comment #33 posted by gloovins on September 28, 2007 at 22:48:22 PT
FoM
Those were beautiful horses on that site...thanks for sharing.& glad you took your ailing friend out, you are a very nice person for that...:)
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Comment #32 posted by FoM on September 28, 2007 at 22:09:34 PT
Hope
Yes he is doing better but the Stroke and the Transplant have taken a big toll on him. He said the cocaine and alcohol for years is what did him in. He gets very depressed and the Fair and Pulls lifted his mood tonight.
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Comment #31 posted by FoM on September 28, 2007 at 22:00:28 PT
gloovins
I spent most of my life with horses. We have an 80 by 132 foot indoor riding arena with a rest room, hot and cold horse wash, heated club room attached to the barn. We don't have any horses here anymore but two I own are in another part of the state with a friend. She shows them. We now rent the arena for equipment storage.The horses were mostly quarter horses and different draft breeds. They had Haflingers which aren't that common and they looked good. I had students competing years ago in all three of our local County Fairs. I love horses and they were very hard for me to give up. http://www.haflingerhorses.com/
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Comment #30 posted by Hope on September 28, 2007 at 22:00:24 PT
Your friend
He's doing pretty well, then?
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Comment #29 posted by gloovins on September 28, 2007 at 21:46:20 PT
Tell us FoM
What kinda horses? I love them & rode in a military camp back in Indiana in the summer of '86 ... Horses are majestic...
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Comment #28 posted by gloovins on September 28, 2007 at 21:43:56 PT
Lazy Journalist # 1244323 re: cannabis 2007
This writer Brenda is up to her eyeballs in confilct o interest!Thanks to the poster who clued me in to her hubby is...You know, I ve been thinking just how irrational it takes to be irrational these days! These prohibs mantra is exactly that: smoked marjuana...vaporizors make these people's heads expolde...too much rationale.These days man, this writer gets shredded.Whilst people who kill via car while drunk get 3-8 months in prison. Hey wait, you care about kids and drugs right? Ok, lets have an aggressive use of the scram alcohol monitoring system on teens who get caught with alcohol - like they do for rich people who get popped for dui. Hey, it's for the children. We want to keep these children away from the deadly "drug" mari...er, alcohol! Please don't all you "prolegalization" groups. These are America's children!Yeah, right, okay you really care about the children and your priorities are spot-on. Yeah, whatever."Summer's almost gone, we had some good times, but they're gone, the winters comin' on, summers almost...gone." - The Doors
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Comment #27 posted by FoM on September 28, 2007 at 21:42:56 PT
Hope
We had a wonderful time. The tractor pulls were great and the women left the men at the Pulls and we went thru the exhibits. It was a beautiful, chilly, Fall night and we enjoyed it. We invited our friend who had a Liver Transplant and then a Stroke to go with us. The horses looked great too.
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Comment #26 posted by Hope on September 28, 2007 at 21:29:07 PT
FoM
Hope you all had a good time at the fair.
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Comment #25 posted by FoM on September 28, 2007 at 21:07:23 PT
Hope
I'm sorry I didn't get the extra copies removed before now but we went to the last County Fair in the area and just got back.
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Comment #24 posted by whig on September 28, 2007 at 19:22:53 PT
BGreen
But even smoked marijuana doesn't increase the risk of cancer or emphysema. Even smoked cannabis doesn't seem to have any tremendously negative effects on health, except for a bit of bronchial irritation perhaps. Sure, it's not as healthy as vaporizing, but is it really unhealthy? In fact, it's still probably better to smoke pot for health than not.
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Comment #23 posted by mayan on September 28, 2007 at 16:45:42 PT
VAPORIZORS
One word sends Brenda Chabot's argument spriraling down in flames.
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Comment #22 posted by BGreen on September 28, 2007 at 16:02:55 PT
That's not my point, whig
If the only reason they have left to justify a complete 100% ban on possessing or even attempting to possess this plant is the "dangers of smoking," then we need to call their bluff and force them to allow cannabis for every other reason EXCEPT lighting it on fire.Of course, we know the benefits of portability a joint or small pipe gives, but the point is that they're screaming very loudly about the dangers of combustion that are exclusive of the cannabis plant, so we must force them to admit that the ONLY perceived dangers comes from chemicals produced when you set any plant on fire.Cannabis is getting a bad rap for the by-products of combustion, and we've got to fight fire with fire (so to speak.)The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #21 posted by goblet on September 28, 2007 at 15:31:36 PT:
on vaporizers...
http://www.alexza.com/novel/novel.php
FDA approved Vaporizer?
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Comment #20 posted by whig on September 28, 2007 at 15:20:10 PT
BGreen
Vaporizers are not as portable or inexpensive as a joint. (Though they can save a lot of money in the long run by being much more efficient.) There may be some conditions for which a joint is more effective than a vaporizer.
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Comment #19 posted by Hope on September 28, 2007 at 14:22:48 PT
Dang!
Peculiar.
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Comment #17 posted by Hope on September 28, 2007 at 13:39:41 PT
Whoops!
I didn't notice that my correction posted twice, either.Twice corrected.
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Comment #16 posted by BGreen on September 28, 2007 at 13:19:36 PT
The newest prohibitionist mantra
"Smoked marijuana," "Smoked marijuana," "Smoked marijuana," "Smoked marijuana."They feel they have to insert "smoked" in front of "marijuana" because they KNOW that "marijuana" possesses real medicinal qualities, but they still believe that "smoking" cannabis completely negates any beneficial effects.Well, they're completely wrong about the smoking part of it, but if fire is the enemy of our health then ban it.If the prohibitionists want to keep throwing this nonsense in our faces, let's make cannabis 100% legal to grow, possess and partake of, but just make "smoking" it illegal.Vaporization scares the hell out of these rabid prohibitionists because then their final, last-gasp mantra of "Smoked marijuana" will be a pointless argument.Forget about "Smoked marijuana" and tell us about the cannabis plant itself.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #15 posted by Hope on September 28, 2007 at 13:16:11 PT
Sinsemilla Jones
Thank you. You're very kind.
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Comment #14 posted by Sinsemilla Jones on September 28, 2007 at 12:17:40 PT
LOL, Hope!
You're not trying to legally impose your values on anyone, either!You are a person of substance, as opposed to a substance free person.You can spell Sinsemilla any way you want.
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Comment #13 posted by Hope on September 28, 2007 at 12:14:37 PT
Editing....
Perhaps I need to check on the spelling of Sinsemilla from now on...or better yet...just copy and paste.Sorry, Sinsemilla.SinsemillaSinsemillaSinsemillaSinsemillaSinsemillaSinsemillaSinsemillaSinsemillaSinsemillaSinsemilla:0)At least, I did recognize my own error... and corrected it.Plus, I wasn't offering classes on the correct spelling of Sinsemilla.
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Comment #11 posted by Hope on September 28, 2007 at 11:00:07 PT
Sensimilla Jones
That is strange, and more than a little funny, that they are advertising editing classes and make two gross errors in one sentence. I think it would be accurate to say that they did, indeed, hoist themselves on their own petard. No doubt, they deserve it.Perhaps they were in a rush to get back to persecuting those who would disagree with them.
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Comment #10 posted by dongenero on September 28, 2007 at 09:41:21 PT
truth and honesty would be better goals
This group might be successful if they didn't state their goals, which are obviously to lie and propagandize. Lies and propaganda work best when you don't tip people off that you are trying to change their perceptions.Better yet, maybe we should ALL keep it simple and make one goal; the truth.
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Comment #9 posted by Sinsemilla Jones on September 28, 2007 at 08:56:15 PT
Hope - Pretty altered for substance free people...
"living the substance free lifestyle"Don't you have to be dead to do that?The Inland Valley Drug Free Community Coalition, a proud initiative of the FreeStyle Foundation, a nationwide non-profit.A COMMUNITY organization founded by a NATIONWIDE organization?And on BOTH websites under Resources can be found this -"Straight Scoop News Bureau
www.straightscoop.orgEncourages anti-grug themes and drup use realities in school-based media. Monthly highlights different areas of journalism to help enhance writing, interviewing and editing skill of students from grades 7-12."Now, I'm against both grugs and drups, but how is it that all the substance free people working on those websites missed such obvious errors, but with a cursory look, my coffee, tobacco, and cannabis altered mind found them?(BTW, the Straight Scoop site is defunct and all you get are a bunch of health insurance ads. What a Resource!)
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Comment #8 posted by Had Enough on September 28, 2007 at 08:27:37 PT
Brenda Chabot
Does she have a hubby called Paul???Paul Chabot was a Senior Advisor within the White House and worked for both President Clinton and Bush. He began in 1999 as a Presidential Management Fellow. He has a B.A. in Administration from California State University at San Bernardino, a Masters of Public Administration from the University of Southern California and is completing a Doctorate of Executive Leadership at the George Washington University.and…He was named Law Enforcement Student of the Year.and..His Federal work experience includes rotations with the Department of Justice - U.S. Attorney's Office where he was appointed as the Program Director for the Narcotics Chemical Civil Compliance Project. Later he completed a rotation with the State Department - Office of the Inspector General assessing counter-narcotics and anti-terrorism programs. Additionally he worked for Congressman Jerry Lewis in the United States Capitol.and…Paul is a Lieutenant Reserve Naval Intelligence Officer assigned to an intelligence unit on the west-coast. Previously, he served with the Joint Chiefs of Staff within the Pentagon's National Military Joint Intelligence Center and the Defense Intelligence Agency.Today, Paul is a professional speaker/consultant traveling the nation working with groups, school and companies on leadership, substance abuse, and community service education. He also serves on the Capital Fraternal Caucus, Sigma Phi Epsilon Fraternity New Member Education Camps and is a FreeMason.more…http://www.paulchabot.com/index.html********Services***Programs and PresentationsAll programs can be tailored to your specific needs*****High School Level:*Reach for the Stars: My Journey from High School to the White House*Be Safe: Predatory Drugs*Living Substance Free and Proud*How to Say No to Drugs, Alcohol, Tobacco – and Mean it!*Community Service Matters!*****College Level:Substance Abuse Programs:*Presentation X: Date Rape and Club Drugs*Speed Kills: The Methamphetamine Epidemic*Marijuana Myths: Up in Smoke*Stop, Listen, Learn: Cocaine, Steroids and Prescription Drug Abuse*Time to Save Lives (compacted for tobacco, alcohol & all drugs)*Risk Management, Alcohol and Other Drugs (for Greeks)*Straight Up! An Alcohol Program for Those Who Have Heard it All*****Leadership Programs:*Road to the White House: Leadership for America's Future Leaders*Service Leadership: Building Ourselves and Bettering our Communities*Special Agent Training: Be an Agent of Social Change (workshop)*Frat House to the White House (for Greeks)*****Corporate:*Substance Abuse & Business Un-Productivity*Marijuana Myths: Up in Smoke*How to Help a Drug or Alcohol Addict*Dealing with Drugs in the Workplace*Service Leadership: Building Ourselves and Bettering our Communities*Special Agent Training: Be an Agent of Social Change (workshop)http://www.paulchabot.com/services.html
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Comment #7 posted by Hope on September 28, 2007 at 07:35:11 PT
Oh, I see...
to assist in their goals of altering the perception of others, they've altered the meaning of the word "substance".
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Comment #6 posted by Hope on September 28, 2007 at 07:32:34 PT
Sensimilla Jones comment 4
Perception altering website, heh? Perception altering would be mind altering. Would it not?Creepy.Substance free living? How is that possible? I guess they've altered their own ability of perception to the point that they can't see reality.
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Comment #5 posted by Hope on September 28, 2007 at 07:02:55 PT
Ms. Chabot
She's certainly well duped by the big pharmaceutical industry and those who push it.How did mankind manage to exist before Merck and Eli Lilly came along?
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Comment #4 posted by Sinsemilla Jones on September 28, 2007 at 06:58:06 PT
If you like this bs, you'll love their website!
They have goals, objectives, AND priorities!They sound the same to me but....Goals include - "Increase the perceived harmfulness among youth in the use of different illegal drugs" and "Reduce the rate of perceived prevalence of friends' current use of marijuana, methamphetamine, alcohol and tobacco."While Objectives are things like - "Distribute information on the negative consequences of drug legalization on youth", "Enhance the community's anti-drug media and public information campaign", and "Support law enforcement..."But "Reduce the prevalence of current substance use among youth in the Inland Valley", that's not a goal or an objective, that's a Priority!"Strengthening Community Action for the Safety of our Children" is plastered on every page along with quotes from Margaret Mead, Mark Twain, Gandhi, MLK, and Mother Teressa.Oh and, "We are a proud initiative of the FreeStyle Foundation, a nationwide non-profit supporting and promoting substance free livining initiatives throughout the USA."
(substance free livining? lol)Hmmmm, let's take google at the FreeStyle Foundation -"The Freestyle Foundation supports, and responds to the existing culture of healthy adolescent and adults who take pride in abstaining from all substances (alcohol, tobacco and illegal narcotics), WHILE exposing others to the benefits of living the substance free lifestyle."Sounds to me like their concern for the children is a cover for their true goal, objective, and priority to control the behavior of adults and outlaw freedom of choice.
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Comment #3 posted by Hope on September 28, 2007 at 06:51:36 PT
Ms. Chabot Is So Sadly and Direly Misled.
Brenda, in another time, would have been very good at rooting out and pointing out witches to burn and heretics to torture.
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Comment #2 posted by Yanxor on September 28, 2007 at 06:47:20 PT
Uh...more of the same bs
Yes, the institute found little benefit to "smoking" marijuana because of the possible negative respiratory problems, which, mind you, aren't as bad as with those using cigarettes.However, if the cannabis is vaporized, any sort of negative effects related to smoking in general are completely out of the picture. If medical establishments and patients are to use this with the terminally ill, it would be best if the method was either vaporization or ingestion of baked goods."Interviews with teens found that some believe that marijuana can cure cancer and other serious diseases."Lets ignore for a second that she doesn't cite this, but evidently teens know better than Brenda Chabot. She should really get out and read, if only FOXNews wasn't so neurotoxic...unlike cannabis.http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/cgi/content/full/308/3/838"In other studies, smoked marijuana has been shown to cause a variety of health problems, including cancer, respiratory problems, increased heart rate and loss of motor skills."AAAAAAH! I hate it when they do this...notice how she mixes something that's not associated with long term cannabis use (Cancer) with something that is associated with long term cannabis use (respiratory problems) with something that is associated with immediate effects of cannabis (increased heart rate, loss of motor skills) thereby somehow indicating that the latter two might be long term problems caused by cannabis."In a recent study by the Mayo Clinic, THC was shown to be less effective than standard treatments in helping cancer patients regain lost appetites."Idiot, THC isn't primarily responsible for "the munchies" the cannabis plant has over 70 different active compounds, and CBD(cannabidiol) is primarily responsible for "the munchies" yet another good reason to consume the entire plant, rather than one specific pharmaceutical derivitive that costs 10 times more."The American Medical Association recommends that marijuana remain a Schedule I controlled substance."You know Anslinger claimed that the AMA supported his case for banning marijuana in 1937 when they were completely against such actions. The AMA now gets millions of dollars from the federal government for research, and its not going to jepordize such funding to support our poor deamonized herb."As a result of such research, a synthetic THC drug, Marinol, has been available to the public since 1985. The Food and Drug Administration has determined that Marinol is safe, effective and has therapeutic benefits for use as a treatment for nausea and vomiting associated with cancer chemotherapy, and as a treatment of weight loss in patients with AIDS. However, it does not produce the harmful health effects associated with smoking marijuana."Um...what research? Marinol costs more and doesn't contain the vast plethora of active ingridients found in cannabis, its also specifically designed to be less euphoric. You know what else doesn't produce the harmful health effects associated with smoking marijuana? Vaporizing it."It's also important to realize that the campaign to allow marijuana to be used as medicine is a tactical maneuver in an overall strategy to completely legalize all drugs."Now now, maybe MMJ legalization is a step towards general cannabis legalization...but I have never seen anyone on this forum cheerlead for meth, heroine, cocaine or PCP. That was a stupid scare-tactic comment."Prolegalization groups have transformed the debate from decriminalizing drug use to one of compassion and care for people with serious diseases."AAAAH! Medical marijuana IS about compassion and care for people with serious diseases. Overall legalization is for individual freedom to consume substances that are less harmful (and more pleasant) than those advocated by our government."Marijuana has no medical value that can't be met more effectively by legal drugs. Marijuana users are far more likely to use other drugs like cocaine and heroin than nonmarijuana users, and this raises additional concerns for those trying to purchase marijuana in our Inland Valley cities."Marijuana has no medical value in that the government and pharmaceuticals will not benefit from it. And if you want to talk about legal substances, the illegal use of legal amphetamines and legal opioids is second only to cannabis, so gah.Research into the "gateway theory" has shown that keeping cannabis illegal is what's responsible for putting people in contact with heroin, cocaine and so on.Either Mrs. Chabot knowingly uses underhanded ways of wording things (and lies) or she's just uneducated. Read the literature Brenda.
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Comment #1 posted by TroutMask on September 28, 2007 at 06:24:25 PT
Keep telling yourself...
"We have a tough fight in front of us, but one that we are winning"As long as you keep believing that, everything is good.
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