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  Governor Busts Medical Marijuana Bill 

Posted by CN Staff on June 05, 2007 at 06:05:50 PT
By Jim Baron, Times Staff Writer 
Source: Pawtucket Times  

Providence, RI -- Standing firm on his veto threat despite an almost certain override in both chambers of the General Assembly, Gov. Donald Carcieri Monday rejected legislation to make Rhode Island's medical marijuana law permanent. In identical veto messages to House Speaker William Murphy and Senate President Joseph Montalbano, Carcieri said: "If enacted, this legislation will enable qualified persons to acquire, possess, cultivate, manufacture, use, deliver, transfer or transport marijuana or paraphernalia relating to the consumption of marijuana" for problems ranging from cancer to unspecified pain.
"As I said in my veto message in 2005," Carcieri reminded the legislative leaders, "I support efforts to provide effective pain management to persons suffering from debilitating conditions, but not in a way that violates federal law and ignores the drug approval process as established by the Food and Drug Administration." The governor said that would result in an increase in illegal activity as well as the use by Rhode Islanders of potentially unsafe substances. He pointed out that marijuana is still classified by the medical community as a hallucinogenic drug and is classified by the federal government as a Schedule 1 drug (drugs that have high potential for abuse and which currently have no accepted medical use). "As a result," he explained, "this legislation could potentially subject Rhode Islanders to federal prosecution, while significantly complicating the responsibilities of state and local law enforcement officials." The "bottom line," Carcieri said in his veto message, is that "this legislation would give vulnerable Rhode Island citizens a false sense of security regarding the legality and safety of producing, distributing and using marijuana, a substance which is neither legal under federal law nor regulated in any way by any government agency." The law, passed in 2005 over Carcieri's veto, exempts people with serious, painful or degenerative illnesses, such as cancer, AIDS or multiple sclerosis, who obtain certification from a physician, from state laws regarding the possession, cultivation and use of 2.5 ounces of "useable marijuana" and up to 12 marijuana plants. A patient can designate two caregivers who are then certified to possess the same amounts. A caregiver can serve up to five patients, but is limited to a total of 5 ounces of marijuana or 24 plants. The original law was written with a sunset provision that will cause it to expire June 30 if the legislature does not override the governor's veto. If that happened, sponsors said, the exception in the law for medical marijuana would be void and they would have to pass a new law from scratch next January. But the veto message drew quick assurances from leaders in both the House and Senate that they would call votes to override the governor's action and pass the law over his objection. House Majority Leader Gordon Fox issued a statement Monday saying, "I fully expect that we will place a vote to override the Governor's medical marijuana veto on the floor calendar before the end of our session. The vote on Rep. (Thomas) Slater's bill made it clear that there is an overwhelming majority in the House willing to remove the sunset clause on this compassionate legislation." Montalbano issued a statement saying: "The Senate will consider a veto override of Senator Perry's compassionate medical marijuana legislation prior to final adjournment of the 2007 session. The state has not experienced any problems during the law's trial period, and medical marijuana is in some cases the only treatment option that effectively alleviates chronic pain and nausea in terminally ill patients, which is why the measure is supported by health organizations such as the Rhode Island Medical Society, the American Nurses Association and the American Public Health Association."Source: Pawtucket Times (RI)Author: Jim Baron, Times Staff WriterPublished: June 5, 2007Copyright: 2007 The Pawtucket TimesContact: editor pawtuckettimes.comWebsite: http://www.pawtuckettimes.com/Related Articles:Carcieri Vetos Renewal of Med Marijuana Programhttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread23037.shtml Medical Marijuana Bill On Its Way To Carcierihttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread23003.shtmlMedical Marijuana Bill Passedhttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread23000.shtml 

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Comment #55 posted by FoM on June 06, 2007 at 08:51:21 PT

Hope
This is the forum for HughesNet. I hope we won't need a lawyer and since the complaints are many maybe they will change this unfair FAP. They have given us free high speed downloads from 3 to 6 AM but you can't download Youtube as far as I know and I am not interested in a middle of the night time to watch a video. The Internet is getting very sophiscated and now is not the time to try to stop it's growth. http://www.dslreports.com/forum/sat
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Comment #54 posted by FoM on June 06, 2007 at 08:45:51 PT

Hope
The middle class, which is a large amount of our population, is beginning to be hit hard over all the greed. I don't think many of us are even considered middle class anymore. I did watch a little of the debate last night and man did they look almost hateful when they mentioned socialized medicine. They can spend all this money on war but don't see the need for health care like other countries have. I honestly just don't get it. 
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Comment #53 posted by Hope on June 06, 2007 at 08:39:34 PT

FoM
It would be nice if you could all just band together somehow...and not need a lawyer and a suit.Aaargh. I used to wonder, when I saw so many kids going to be lawyers..."How are they all going to get work?"All the young scientists...searching body fluids and hair cells for drug use.Money. Their only god?
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Comment #52 posted by Hope on June 06, 2007 at 08:36:10 PT

Aye.
"...we know how we all hate getting punished for something that we shouldn't be punished for.""How much money do these companies need to make?" Apparently enough to support a lot of very greedy people....people who...likely...as Museman has often said..."Are already rich" ..."The rich get richer."I've heard lots of talk lately about how the "Elite", apparently, are bent on destroying the so called "middle class". More people have more...even the poor have so much more in the way of comfort, nourishment, and personal possessions...than at any previous time in history. But for some reason...they, those who believe themselves to be "elite" and have the "power" to "prove it".... want to decrease...instead of increase that so called "middle" dream. I guess those who believe themselves to be, and set themselves up to be, "The Elite" feel it somehow, in a bad way, when the "middle" crowds them.Aaargh.
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Comment #51 posted by Hope on June 06, 2007 at 08:27:41 PT

Also in our small rural highschool once...
We were being served really cruddy meals in the cafeteria...always. We rarely ever were served any sort of meat or anything fresh and not dumped out of a big can. The entire highschool stopped eating lunch.I think the only straight protein we'd had in ages was Fishstick Friday. We hadn't even had hamburgers in months....and they made good peanut butter cookies and they hadn't made them in ages. It became intolerable. We would rather save our lunch money. Not one single person in the entire highschool...four grades...let the rest down.The school purchased beef for the freezers the next week. We ate well. The entire menu was revamped. I think we even got a little homemade (from scratch, there in the kitchen) iced square of cake occasionally and fresh made peanut butter cookies twice a week or something, and homemade pizza and hamburgers! We all learned that together...we could change the world...one cafeteria at a time.:0)
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Comment #50 posted by FoM on June 06, 2007 at 08:20:57 PT

Hope
If this 24 hour FAP was a part of the contract and everyone knew about it that would be ok but most people wouldn't have gotten HughesNet I think. I know that before FAP if I downloaded a video or music it would slow down and that was ok. The recovery rate was fast but now it's a punishment and we know how we all hate getting punished for something that we shouldn't be punished for. How much money do these companies need to make?
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Comment #49 posted by Hope on June 06, 2007 at 08:11:11 PT

Years ago
our community suffered from poor telephone service. We could only get through on the phones maybe two or three days a week. We all got to gether....via telephone...when it worked, and word of mouth, the local stores and gas stations, that we were all going to start paying the company for the time we actually had a phone. Everyone was to figure that if they paid thirty dollars a month...they should add up the days they had no service, find the percentage of actual service. If you had service half the time, you paid half the bill with a written notice and figures as to why. It worked.
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Comment #48 posted by Hope on June 06, 2007 at 08:07:01 PT

Fair Access?
That's not what you bought. You bought High Speed Internet.Dang!Blooming crooks! They sold more than they had!
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Comment #47 posted by FoM on June 06, 2007 at 07:51:59 PT

Hope
With Youtube being such a big part of the Internet browsing experience it really means we can't watch any videos or we lose our speed. Forget about downloading anything too. They want more money for more bandwidth now. Some people are paying over a $100 a month and still get Fapped. Fap means their new Fair Access Policy. Something has to give. 
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Comment #46 posted by Hope on June 06, 2007 at 07:38:20 PT

comment 43
Oh my gosh!
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Comment #45 posted by Hope on June 06, 2007 at 07:37:01 PT

"Don't do it." Thank you!
I have been thankful, quite a few times, that I am a heinous procrastinator.I even mentioned it to the Republican and encouraged him to check it out. If I mention something twice I get tagged with nagging. I don't think he ever looked. I'm thankful, now.
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Comment #44 posted by Hope on June 06, 2007 at 07:27:20 PT

Hmmmmm
I think, today. After I listen to a bit more Stephen B. Stephens. I'm gonna "inflict" Bob Dylan on my thirteen year old grandchild today.I might change to Tina Turner for a while later this afternoon and ....heck...maybe...do I have the power and the intestinal fortitude?..... NO TV!....Bob Dylan even after they've shuffled off to bed!She needs to learn to sing louder...Janis could help!Whoo! Hoo!Good day! Lol!
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Comment #43 posted by FoM on June 06, 2007 at 07:24:46 PT

Hope
Last night I stumbled on to a Bruce Springsteen concert from Dublin on PBS and it was really good. They were singing Peter Seeger's songs and other old time religion songs. PS: I want to mention something to you and anyone considering HughesNet for high speed. Don't do it. I had praised them and I don't want you to be disappointed if you would put out all that money now.They made a policy called FAP. If you go over a limited they fap you and you creep along for 24 hours at the speeds of an isp. I read a forum on this problem and people are coming undone and a class action suit might happen over it.What it means is you can't watch Youtube videos or you will exceed the bandwidth allowed. I watched 2 youtube videos and used up have of my daily allotment. Now I can't do much of anything until tomorrow or I will get Fapped again.
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Comment #42 posted by Hope on June 06, 2007 at 07:22:35 PT

I can listen to, exclusively, Bob,
for a very, very, very long time ..... continuously.I love the "Repeat" button, too.I'm fond of what I call, "The Spanish Steppes" and "Black Diamond Bay."I love them all, I guess. Wasn't crazy about The Basement Tapes. All I recall of it is something like, "A big dumb blonde in a real tight sweater...""Brother Bill on the Hill" (Highway sixty something revisited", I think.) was a "trip" during the Clinton administration.He wrote classics.Somebody rerecorded "All Along The Watchtower" about the time my son was in college. A housemate of his was playing it and enjoying it in the living room of their apartment. I said, something to the effect of, "Yes, I always liked that song. Bob Dylan recorded it first...He wrote it, too."He said he didn't, then raced upstairs to get the CD literature to prove it to me. He slowed down somewhere near the top of the stairs.

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Comment #41 posted by Hope on June 06, 2007 at 07:12:15 PT

Neal and Bob Diehards.
I've listened to so much Bob so much of my life. He has seemingly "accompianed" me through a lot. I've considered him in my prayers...as I am sure FoM has considered Neal in her prayers."Grace be with them.""Grace and Peace to you."
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Comment #40 posted by FoM on June 06, 2007 at 06:44:55 PT

Hope
I only know what Neil has done. I still am a diehard fan. LOL!
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Comment #39 posted by Hope on June 06, 2007 at 06:36:32 PT

Alzheimers?
Probably not. I've always tangled my lyrics.
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Comment #38 posted by FoM on June 06, 2007 at 06:17:41 PT

Hope
That song is from Buffalo Springfield (Neil Young etc.) and it's called For What It's Worth.I love that song. They did it at the CSNY Freedom of Speech Tour last summer.
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Comment #37 posted by Hope on June 06, 2007 at 05:26:26 PT

Gov. Donald Carcieri and the Feds.
Reminds me of the words from a song..."Getting so much resistance from behind..."Or have I made up something?I think it's more words from Credence...from "Stop, Listen, What's that sound...Everybody look what's going down."
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Comment #36 posted by Hope on June 06, 2007 at 05:20:31 PT

The article about something to do with 
JFK and terrorists.... maybe I can get time today to try and read it well again. I don't remember ever hearing the term "terrorists" in those days.
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Comment #35 posted by Hope on June 06, 2007 at 05:17:48 PT

Comment 10 Museman
Talk about a movie revue! I don't think I'll be trying to see "The Secret"."Poverty is a result of negative thinking, and the 'law of attraction.'"Aaargh. How disgusting.That may be true in some cases....but that "blanket" is way too small for that "bed".
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Comment #34 posted by FoM on June 05, 2007 at 22:11:02 PT

Just Want To Share
I found this video from last summers CSNY's Freedom of Speech Tour. I thought others might like to see it.
 CSNY - What Are Their Names?/ Rocking In The Free World 2006http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57JbWe7DiH0
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Comment #33 posted by FoM on June 05, 2007 at 18:49:43 PT

Mayan
I thought this might make you happy. Ron Paul is ahead in all the positive questions. I couldn't pay attention to this debate so I missed a lot of it.http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18963731/
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Comment #32 posted by mayan on June 05, 2007 at 17:47:54 PT

The Patriots
The Patriots - By Dr. Bob Bowman, Lt. Col., USAF, ret.
http://thepatriots.us/
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Comment #31 posted by mayan on June 05, 2007 at 17:29:27 PT

Debates
I get tired of watching the establishment puppets spew their rehearsed cripe. The dems were in on the rigged elections,9/11 and the Iraq war (save Kucinich - but he won't investigate 9/11 until september! - TOO LATE!!! ). They are war criminals and should be incarcerated after they are found to be guilty. At least there is a real candidate debating tonight.
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Comment #30 posted by FoM on June 05, 2007 at 16:23:33 PT

Dankhank
I really enjoyed the Democratic Debate. I am watching the Republican debate but I am not paying close attention. Last night's discussion on faith has helped me alot. Will they ask the Republicans about how faith guides them instead of just about Gays and Abortion if they do a similar discussion for them I wonder. I really did appreciate the answers most of the Dems gave last night.
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Comment #29 posted by dankhank on June 05, 2007 at 16:04:40 PT

debate ...
I recorded the Dem debate, but then erased it ... boring ...I will likely save the Repug debate as I expect many stupid, venal and hateful comments from them and want to keep them ...
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Comment #28 posted by FoM on June 05, 2007 at 14:25:59 PT

CNN: For Those Who Are Interested
GOP Debaters Scramble for RecognitionCNN TV: CNN is sponsoring a presidential debate in New Hampshire between the Republican presidential candidates. Watch Tuesday at 7 p.m.http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/06/05/nh.gop.debate/index.html
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Comment #27 posted by whig on June 05, 2007 at 12:27:43 PT

Daniel 12
Many Michaels are about.
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Comment #26 posted by whig on June 05, 2007 at 12:26:29 PT

Before Cannabis
Today is still a few years B.C. for the mass of humanity.
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Comment #25 posted by FoM on June 05, 2007 at 12:10:00 PT

Sam
Ignorance is widespread but should we make ourselves look and talk like them so we can make them happy and be conformists like they want or should we stand up and say I'm ok and so are you so get off your high horse and grow up?
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Comment #24 posted by whig on June 05, 2007 at 12:04:08 PT

Free Will
God has Free Will, and God is within each and every one of us, to exercise our Free Will in favor of what is good for the universe and the preservation of life and consciousness and intelligence, or against this for some temporary rent.
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Comment #23 posted by whig on June 05, 2007 at 11:58:40 PT

The Secret
Will to Power.Will to Money.Will to Success.If you will, but take no cognizance of the consequence, what do you think you will become?What will you take with you?Love is all you need.
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Comment #22 posted by Sam Adams on June 05, 2007 at 11:54:03 PT

Appearance
FOM - I know what counts is on the inside, and you know, but the media and government definitely don't know it. They'll exploit people's appearance to appeal to the ignorant knee-jerk reactionaries that comprise most of our country's population.Only 1/3rd "believe" in evolution. One-third.
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Comment #21 posted by FoM on June 05, 2007 at 11:42:18 PT

dongenero
I was just talking to my husband about this topic and I can't imagine anyone who is only charged with a cannabis offense doing a deal that could get them killed. If a person was a heroin smuggler I can see how that person might not be afraid to turn over on someone in my opinion. I think most cannabis people would prefer jail to infiltrating a terrorist organization. 
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Comment #20 posted by dongenero on June 05, 2007 at 11:12:57 PT

not saying for sure FoM.....
that it was cannabis charges, All the reports say is the informant was an informant due to drug charges.But, that is a whole different thing from violent terrorist bomb rings. I mean, whether the guy was busted for cannabis, cocaine, heroin, whatever. The point is, whatever the charges, it brings one under control of the police or government and they can then be put to use as an informant in whatever situation the government can coerce them into helping with. All under threat of prison if they don't comply. It is very curious as to why a drug charged informant was put to use in this terrorist case. Maybe he was Muslim, or the correct race to infiltrate or could speak a necessary language, I'm not sure. Typically people with drug charges are coerced into being an informant against their friends and contacts in further drug cases related to the charges they are facing.It's a pretty sick system though. I understand how it can help in important cases but is largely an abused system and also leads to LA cops storming innocent couple's homes and to innocent, 90 some year old women being shot to death in their homes after mistaken, no-knock raids.
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Comment #19 posted by FoM on June 05, 2007 at 10:50:00 PT

Sam
I can't resist saying this. They look like gansters to me. The outside of man doesn't mean anything compared to what is inside the person.
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Comment #18 posted by FoM on June 05, 2007 at 10:46:32 PT

dongenero 
I don't think that a person who only is involved in cannabis could do something like an infiltration of a terrorist group. Maybe there are people who are capable but I can't imagine someone doing it if the substance was only cannabis. Maybe I am naive I just don't know.
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Comment #17 posted by dongenero on June 05, 2007 at 10:41:53 PT

Hope, FoM
I think in the case of this informant used in a terrorist sting, it really has no direct connection to the drug charges.It's just that, once they have the drug charges on you, they can hold that over your head. So, a peaceful cannabist lets say, could be coerced into infiltrating a terrorist ring, risking their life on the opportunity that they may survive the undercover sting and thus be saved from incarceration for their drug charges.
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Comment #16 posted by sam Adams on June 05, 2007 at 10:36:22 PT

we want beer
Hope, great picture. Notice how all the demonstrators are wearing suits and ties, today's MJ protesters could learn a lot from these guys.
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Comment #15 posted by FoM on June 05, 2007 at 10:29:17 PT

museman
After reading that article I realized how bad things are getting and it is way worse in the cities. Prisons control those who they want to control and makes cheap labor which to me is still the spirit of slavery. It hasn't gone away but morphed into something bigger and worse.
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Comment #14 posted by FoM on June 05, 2007 at 10:26:17 PT

Hope
You're welcome. I think drugs and terrorists are linked together because of the Poppies that are grown in the middle east and often they get tangled up. I don't think it's about cannabis but heroin but I'm just guessing.
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Comment #13 posted by Hope on June 05, 2007 at 10:16:56 PT

Picked this up over at Pete's
http://library.thinkquest.org/04oct/00492/we_want_beer.jpgNearing the end of that other Prohibition.
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Comment #12 posted by Hope on June 05, 2007 at 10:09:13 PT

Dongenero and FoM
Thank you very much. I appreciate it.
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Comment #11 posted by Hope on June 05, 2007 at 09:58:46 PT

Pedigreed?
Brain damaged from more inbreeding than the farthest hillbilly there is out there, is likely more like it.
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Comment #10 posted by museman on June 05, 2007 at 09:53:09 PT

#2 
How can this travesty continue? Tell me that it doesn't have anything to do with the greed and pedigreed of the rich. Convince me that our political leaders are anything but closet demon worshippers.I saw the recent 'acclaimed' movie called "The Secret." I heard from many sources about how 'revelatory' and 'enlightening' that it was.For those who haven't seen it, it's a must see for the upper class. It's a 'new' (not even) glance at 'positive thinking.' You know, 'visualize this.' It's like a cross between PLato's 'Republic,' Hitlers 'Mein Kampf,' Ram Das's 'Be Here Now,' and an infomercial.They got the illusion down pretty good. "Poverty is a result of negative thinking, and the 'law of attraction.'" If you want to see obfuscation at it's finest, psuedo spirituality at it's socially accepted best, this is the movie for you. If I were to sum it up in one sentence, it would be;"Visualize the emporers new clothes, ignore the naked truth, and you will succeed beyond your wildest dreams."So imprisoning the less fortunate is quite alright for the new aristocracy. The rich and powerful rule, and you can't expect those who belong to that elite class to be anything but what they are; snobs and elitists. Now with this new movie thay have 'liberal,' psuedo'scientific,' and psuedo'intellectual' "evidence" to support their lies of self-importance.Where will it all end? Not good. Not good. Armageddon is on a non-stop plunge into the near future, and so many just keep right on feeding it their life force every day. Oh I'm sorry. Is that 'visualizing?' Or is it observation?
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Comment #9 posted by dongenero on June 05, 2007 at 09:52:52 PT

comment #7 ....propaganda
It's a propaganda article to try and bolster support for continued use of "criminal" informants.This practice is being heavily criticized for leading to violent killing of innocent citizens and of unidentified police officers in no knock raids. It puts the police in business with criminals who have to come up with information, whether it is true or false, in order to save themselves. It promotes corruption. It's dirty business.The Govt. may need to be able to put moles into these supposed terrorist organizations but, there isn't much logic behind the idea that these moles should be criminal informants whose real goal is to save themselves from punishment. It seems to me that undercover intelligence experts would be better for the job.
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Comment #8 posted by FoM on June 05, 2007 at 09:28:19 PT

Hope
I saw that article but I don't know why it is important. That's the way it works I believe. I don't like it but it isn't new I don't think. What I mean is it doesn't surprise me.
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Comment #7 posted by Hope on June 05, 2007 at 09:16:53 PT

A favor, please?
Could anyone who reads this, tell me how important this is and what it is? It gives me the google eye for some reason.http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v07/n682/a06.html?397
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Comment #6 posted by Hope on June 05, 2007 at 09:06:13 PT

Scooter Libby
is apparently off to the penetentiary.Guess he's lucky he didn't get his head cut off.
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Comment #5 posted by Hope on June 05, 2007 at 08:57:14 PT

Investors in Prisons for Profit
How many things will be serious, horrible crimes when there is a lag in profits?Shudder...
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Comment #4 posted by Hope on June 05, 2007 at 08:53:18 PT

Prison for Profit
How bad is that?We're seeing. Prisons are supposed to be about protection from violent, dangerous people.Trouble is....a lot of them, dangerous, violent people, that is, seem to be running the world.A shudder can limber up your backbone.
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Comment #3 posted by Hope on June 05, 2007 at 08:49:40 PT

Comment 2
Article. About half way through it. Maybe not that much. Stunning.I worry so much about this. About what it means for the futures of so many. About who it's enriching....and why.I shudder.
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Comment #2 posted by FoM on June 05, 2007 at 07:41:04 PT

OT: Article About Prisons
Who is Keeping Tabs on Bushite Profiteering Prison Corporations? The Places Where He Plans to Send Us All!URL: http://tinyurl.com/ypfsve
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Comment #1 posted by mai_bong_city on June 05, 2007 at 07:13:05 PT

would that we could....
all have governors like bill richardson of new mexico. 
grow some, carcieri.
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