cannabisnews.com: Rejected in Court, Med Pot Advocates Turn To DEA Rejected in Court, Med Pot Advocates Turn To DEA Posted by CN Staff on April 15, 2007 at 08:17:40 PT By Claire Cooper, Special To The Bee Source: Sacramento Bee California -- A federal appeals court's rejection of Angel Raich's plea for permission to ease her suffering without fear of prosecution has medical marijuana advocates looking for reform in a surprising venue -- the Drug Enforcement Administration.Raich's loss severely diminishes prospects of reform through litigation. But a February "opinion and recommended ruling" by a DEA administrative law judge holds out the possibility that prescription marijuana will be developed and approved by the Federal Drug Administration, ending the long federal-state standoff over medical pot. Mary Ellen Bittner, a Department of Justice appointee who hears regulatory cases for the DEA, tentatively ruled it "would be in the public interest" to let Lyle E. Craker, a medicinal plant specialist at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst, grow pot for use by DEA-registered scientists in prescription drug research and clinical trials authorized by the FDA. If Bittner's ruling becomes final, it could punch a hole in the wall that federal agencies -- the DEA and the National Institute on Drug Abuse -- have erected around legal marijuana, stymieing research into an effective, legal pharmaceutical. Doctors could be prescribing pot as easily as methadone, codeine or morphine, perhaps in seven or eight years.That would be a long time for Raich, whose serious ailments include an inoperable brain tumor, and for other people who depend on marijuana to stay alive or ease the pain of dying. But it would be a short time in the myth-driven history of marijuana regulation that began in the United States with the Marihuana Tax Act of 1937. Passage of the Controlled Substances Act in 1970 imposed a ban on pot production, distribution and use that remains almost absolute because of the federal government's stubbornly held position that pot poses extreme risks and has no proven medical value.Evidence to the contrary has been building. In 1999, the Institute of Medicine of the National Academy of Sciences reported that most regulatory concerns could be overcome by developing marijuana delivery systems, such as vaporization, that should avoid the lung damage caused by smoking. As recently as two months ago researchers reported that HIV-positive patients at San Francisco General Hospital who smoked marijuana found relief from searing pain in their hands and feet. Other studies have shown that pot can stimulate appetite and reduce nausea and muscle spasticity.Yet as Bittner noted, scientists have been winning federal approval to conduct promising medical marijuana research projects only to be denied access to the sole legal pot supply in the country, grown for NIDA at the University of Mississippi. NIDA specifies how much shall be grown each year. The professor in charge in Mississippi testified in 2005 that he had grown no marijuana for three years because he had enough inventory to cover research needs.California researchers have received pot produced in Mississippi for use in state-authorized safety and efficacy studies, but they are not developing a prescription drug. John Vasconcellos, the former state senator whose legislation established the University of California Center for Medical Cannabis Research, testified before Bittner that the purpose was not to get FDA drug approval but "to demystify the roaring contentions of contrary viewpoints and to find out by science ... whether in fact (marijuana is) of any use."Mississippi Farm: http://gallery.marihemp.com/albums/public_domain_free/miss2.jpg Snipped:Complete Article: http://tinyurl.com/2ms8npSource: Sacramento Bee (CA)Author: Claire Cooper, Special To The BeePublished: Sunday, April 15, 2007Copyright: 2007 The Sacramento BeeContact: opinion sacbee.comWebsite: http://www.sacbee.com/Related Articles & Web Site:MAPShttp://www.maps.org/ DEA Stymies Sciencehttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread22669.shtmlMonopoly on Sale of Research Marijuana May End http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread22660.shtmlOle Miss May Get Competition in Growing http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread22657.shtml Home Comment Email Register Recent Comments Help Comment #98 posted by whig on April 21, 2007 at 12:39:42 PT museman Any profession, corrupted by money, becomes the same. Look at pharmaceuticals, please. Most lawyers do not write or enforce laws against cannabis. Many try to create good foundations for people who need them. The US constitution is such a foundation, and if it is defective it has a process for amendment. If you would dispense with it and all written law, then what? [ Post Comment ] Comment #97 posted by museman on April 21, 2007 at 09:21:20 PT lawyers and money Two inseperable parts of the same mechanism - greed. Lawyers 'interpreted' the 'law' which got us into this mess in the first place. Lawyers were the 'representatives' who voted in prohibition based not on legitimate research, but on emotional, racial, and class bigotry. The 'profession' itself is a gathering of vultures.If the law is outside, or beyond the common understanding of ordinary people, then it it is a sham and an incredible con job, benefiting only by qualification of their 'special training', those who conform to the lie. Lawyers are lowlife with a bank account. If there are any lawyers who think they aren't -when is the last time they went without?People should know the law like they should know their own bodies. I personally have never met a single human being who knew more about me than me. Not a doctor, and certainly not a lawyer. Stop giving these piranhas so damn much power, and start speaking for yourselves. Giving the lawyers so much power is why so many cannabis convictions have resulted - the lawyers serve two things, money, and the status quo. Cannabis serves neither, though like anything else can be bought and sold. There has been no defence for the 'crime' of cannabis -until medical, because the cops, lawyers, and legislators know full well what kind of control their law gives them, and are not about to let go of it.Sure there are (or may be) a few jewels mixed in with the general excrement, but I will never believe that there is any redemption of that particular lifestyle and job description. When the false temple falls, I can guarantee when the New is built, lawyers will be extinct, which pretty much means that they are a lost cause, like so many other 'professions' of greed and arrogant attitude.I may not know 'legaleze' but I know the intent and original meaning of our constitutional rights -which is simply freedom, and liberty -both now legislated, controlled, and turned into 'priviledge' which requires a certain dollar amount to acquire, and is held (currently) securely in the lawyers dirty, greedy hands.Scum of the earth. [ Post Comment ] Comment #96 posted by FoM on April 19, 2007 at 17:44:43 PT publicbulldog I have a bad sinus headache and I can't figure out what you are trying to say. We are a group of people that are different ages and approach reform by what we read as far as news goes and look for little victories. We aren't a part of any one organization but are a group of free spirits who often share a chat and a cup of coffee virtually. [ Post Comment ] Comment #95 posted by whig on April 19, 2007 at 17:39:01 PT pbd Your arguments are in the wrong venue. [ Post Comment ] Comment #94 posted by Hope on April 19, 2007 at 17:07:22 PT He's talking about us! We will not be driven by fear into an age of unreason, if we dig deep in our history and our doctrine, and remember that we are not descended from fearful men, not from men who feared to write, to speak, to associate, and to defend causes that were for the moment unpopular. – Edward R. Murrow [ Post Comment ] Comment #93 posted by publicbulldog on April 19, 2007 at 16:35:09 PT: common sense law does not draw it up, The Attorney in Sheridan Oregon will He has the legal arguments all drawn up. I am using them in three cases.The check or money order would be mailed to him not me.I had to send him money for the ones I got.Send Reward Claim to: Common Sense Law, Post Office Box 6528, Santa Rosa, CA 95406 - for a mailed response include SASE. Email: commonsenselaw yahoo.com Download poster and other articles from website www.commonsenselaw.com The Reward is held by Common Sense Law and Associates in trust, and was first published in February 2006.. As contributions continue by individuals, desiring resolution of this issue, the Reward Amount has exceeded $5,000. The Reward is subject to a 30-day notice of withdrawal posted on the website. Please Pass this on. Reward Substances csl2006-11-22.doc WANTED Proof of Federal Jurisdiction REWARD $5,000 To the first person who can prove that Our Federal government has jurisdiction over all substances manufactured or possessed in the United States. U.S. Supreme Court case law cite with page number required. The famous Wickard v. Filburn (1942) case, relied on by our U.S. Attorneys, Federal judges and Supreme Court Justices to claim jurisdiction under the interstate commerce clause, actually says quite the opposite : It is of the essence of regulation that it lays a restraining hand on the self-interest of the regulated and that advantages from the regulation commonly fall to others. … the Government gave the farmer a choice which was, of course, designed to encourage cooperation and discourage noncooperation. It is hardly lack of due process for the Government to regulate that which it subsidizes.- Wickard (317 US 111,129-131) Because Filburn was accepting benefits (subsidy prices for his wheat), he was liable for the agency’s penalties, as he was in violation of the program regulations. Were any of the “others”, those farmers who did NOT register to receive benefits, prosecuted under commerce clause powers? Of course not, they grew all the wheat they wanted. The fraudulently applied holdings of the Wickard case have been used by our government again and again since 1942 to extend their jurisdiction into every area of our lives. The most notorious achievement of this fraud is the Controlled Substance Act of 1970, in which our government claimed jurisdiction over all drugs via commerce holdings from Wickard. War was then declared on certain drugs and still continues, with no end in sight. In 2004 Attorney Allison Margolin challenged Federal jurisdiction with a motion to dismiss charges (U.S. v. Landa), in which she stated: The precedent upon which the federal government’s ability to govern interstate commerce, Wickard v. Filburn, is premised upon the fact that the plaintiff in that case registered in a federal program. …the Wickard basis of jurisdiction is inapplicable here. Similar motions by others are currently in our Federal District Courts, our Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, and in our Supreme Court. These defendants are also non-registrants, not accepting benefit from FDA, DEA or any Federal agency or program for substances. To this day, no Federal judge has ruled on these motions or even addressed this issue, never mind citing an authority establishing Federal jurisdiction over non-registrants. The People’s right to due process can only be upheld through court rulings; failure to rule is a deprivation of the People’s right to due process of law. Pretending there is an authority establishing jurisdiction is a deprivation of rights unde r color of law US Criminal Code, § 242, calls for prison sentences for “whoever” is in violation. Does “whoever” include judges and attorneys, as well as our defense attorneys who standby and silently witness the crime? We must remember always that accusation is not proof, and that conviction depends upon evidence and due process of law. We will not walk in fear , one of another. We will not be driven by fear into an age of unreason, if we dig deep in our history and our doctrine, and remember that we are not descended from fearful men, not from men who feared to write, to speak, to associate, and to defend causes that were for the moment unpopular. – Edward R. Murrow Questions, comments, feedback (for a mailed response please provide SASE): Common Sense Law, P.O. Box 6528, Santa Rosa, CA 95406 Email: commonsenselaw yahoo.com Download this and other updated CSL articles from our website: www.commonsenselaw.com All information is provided for educational purposes only. Common Sense Law does not provide legal advice. The authors are not attorneys and not officers of a court of law. If you are seeking legal counsel, contact an attorney and/or do your own due diligent research. Please Pass this On. 11/22/2006 Dear Federal Prisoner: We are offering this Wanted Poster that you may have a chance to resolve this issue and to claim the Reward. The Reward was first published in February 2006 and to date there have not been any claims submitted. We know of five Federal defendants who have filed the motion to dismiss for lack of jurisdiction, and not one of these motions has been ruled on. If you are unable to find the government’s jurisdiction, you might want to send a copy of the poster to: your Attorney, your prosecuting attorney, and your Judge to see if they can find the authority establishing Federal jurisdiction over non-registrants . There are only three possibilities. Either * they can cite the authority, which would resolve the issue and uphold our right to due process, as well as earn them the reward; * they agree that there is no federal jurisdiction over nonregistrants; or * they don’t respond, which can only indicate their continued participation in this fraud, which is a deprivation of your right to due process of law. Pretending there is a law that establishes jurisdiction is a crime at 18 USC Section 242. This crime has a victim with injuries and damages. If you are a victim, it is up to you to respond, or say nothing, and continue suffering the deprivation of your rights along with the other 100,000 Federal Drug War prisoners. You might consider contacting some of the many groups that claim to advocate for prisoners’ rights but maintain their silence regarding this fraud. And you may consider filing a Motion to Dismiss for Lack of Agency Jurisdiction for you own case, modeled after that filed by Attorney Allison Margolin. Your friends and relatives can download this motion from http://www.commonsenselaw.com/Articles.htm as a packet with instructions, print, make copies and mail it to you and other prisoners. We hope you will pass this on to others who have had their rights violated. When a number of prisoners, with support from others, start challenging jurisdiction and exposing this fraud, won’t the system falter and begin changing? Until then, it will be “business as usual” as our government continues to build prisons for those not in line with the party politics. Unite with us to spread the light of this truth! United States Code Title 18--Crimes and Criminal Procedure Chapter 13 - Civil Rights Statute 242. Deprivation of rights under color of law Whoever, under color of any law, statute, ordinance, regulation, or custom, willfully subjects any person in any State … to the deprivation of any rights, … secured or protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States, … shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than one year, or both; and… if such acts include the use, … or threatened use of a dangerous weapon, … shall be fined … or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed … or if such acts include kidnapping …, shall be fined … or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death. Due Process of law: to have the right of controverting, by proof, every material fact... If any question of fact or liability be conclusively presumed against him, this is not due process of law. – Blacks Law Dictionary Color of Law: The appearance, without the substance, of a legal right. An action done with the apparent authority of law but actually in contravention of law. – Law Dictionary, 4th Ed., Stephen H. Gifis. We must remember always that accusation is not proof, and that conviction depends upon evidence and due process of law. We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven by fear into an age of unreason, if we dig deep in our history and our doctrine, and remember that we are not descended from fearful men, not from men who feared to write, to speak, to associate, and to defend causes that were for the moment unpopular. – Edward R. Murrow Silence can only be equated with fraud when there is a legal and moral duty to speak or when an inquiry left unanswered would be intentionally misleading. U.S. v. Tweel, 550 F. 2d. 297, 299. [ Post Comment ] Comment #92 posted by publicbulldog on April 19, 2007 at 16:27:17 PT: see for yourself drug war fans And you may consider filing a Motion to Dismiss for Lack of Agency Jurisdiction for you own case, modeled after that filed by Attorney Allison Margolin. Your friends and relatives can download this motion from http://www.commonsenselaw.com/Articles.htm as a packet with instructions, print, make copies and mail it to you and other prisoners. We hope you will pass this on to others who have had their rights violated. When a number of prisoners, with support from others, start challenging jurisdiction and exposing this fraud, won’t the system falter and begin changing? Until then, it will be “business as usual” as our government continues to build prisons for those not in line with the party politics. Unite with us to spread the light of this truth! [ Post Comment ] Comment #91 posted by BGreen on April 19, 2007 at 15:35:36 PT Direct contact with an attorney I believe people should directly contact an attorney as opposed to responding by email to a post on a public board.You've already been popped once, why take a another chance?Sorry if your intentions were good, publicbulldog, it just doesn't sound right.The Reverend Bud Green [ Post Comment ] Comment #90 posted by whig on April 19, 2007 at 15:21:18 PT pbd I don't believe a word. [ Post Comment ] Comment #89 posted by publicbulldog on April 19, 2007 at 15:05:11 PT: I do not want a dime. The money goes to the Attorney that drew up the urguments. [ Post Comment ] Comment #88 posted by whig on April 19, 2007 at 09:53:48 PT pbd You are soliciting people to send you their personal information and money? [ Post Comment ] Comment #87 posted by Hope on April 19, 2007 at 08:15:55 PT Anti-depressants It's very disturbing that so many doctors recommend these drugs...then when you accept the diagnosis...you go on the "crazy" list.The insurance company that didn't want to pay for my daughter's surgery said that one reason was that she was taking anti-depressants (the other was a "history of smoking"), and therefore she probably didn't really need the surgery so they wouldn't pay for it...even though they had approved it.The pharmeceuticals and the doctors talk you into trying the drug, and they make money...then you find you are hugely penalized for it in the pharmeceutical, medical, and insurance business.It all has everything to do with money and greed. I wish it was about helping people be and stay well...but I sincerely believe it's not. [ Post Comment ] Comment #86 posted by publicbulldog on April 18, 2007 at 20:34:31 PT: ATTENTION ANYONE that knows of somebody charged with a criminal offense in Federal prison that did not commit a crime in the District of Columbia or puerto rico,should consider filing a motion to dismiss due to lack of subject matter jurisdiction. Send your information to the publicbulldog yahoo.com. For $100 Dollars forms will be sent to the federal prisoners that qualify.They will just need the name and case number typed into the form ,and then send them to Sheridan Oregon to be submitted to a US Supreme Court case.. publicbulldog yahoo.com The money goes to an attorney filing the US SUPREME Court case out of Sheridan Oregon. Medical marijuana patients encouraged to submitt motion to dismiss. For more information contact the publicbulldog at: publicbulldog yahoo.com [ Post Comment ] Comment #85 posted by FoM on April 18, 2007 at 17:03:28 PT Why are Anti-Depreesant Used So Often? Did Anti-Depressants Trigger Shooting? April 18, 2007Investigators believe that Cho Seung Hui, the Virginia Tech murderer, had been taking anti-depressant medication at some point before the shootings, according to The Chicago Tribune. Perhaps it's just a terrible coincidence, but Columbine shooters Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, and Kip Kinkel, the 15-year-old Oregon youth who killed his parents before opening fire on his classmates, were also taking drugs for depression.It's not yet clear what, if anything, Cho was on. http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/features_julieshealthclub/2007/04/did_antidepress.html [ Post Comment ] Comment #84 posted by whig on April 18, 2007 at 15:05:43 PT Video of a drunk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdeCl1ZDYwo [ Post Comment ] Comment #83 posted by FoM on April 18, 2007 at 14:55:03 PT Unbelievable Picture of Shooter What has happened to our country with all the violence and hate?http://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/i/msnbc/Components/Art/COVER/070418/STG_Mega_KillerSpeaks_251p.jpg [ Post Comment ] Comment #82 posted by whig on April 18, 2007 at 14:49:03 PT BGreen Who has the right to send militia overseas on colonial adventures?Only a tyrant would claim such a false authority.What is this "Department of Homeland Security?"That is not our system of government. [ Post Comment ] Comment #81 posted by BGreen on April 18, 2007 at 14:15:35 PT The defense of our Country IF, and that's a BIIIIIGGGGG IF, our Country was threatened by a foreign invader, I'd be one of the first to take up a weapon in defense of our freedoms.Unfortunately, the military and militia as we know them are nothing more than hired killers for the whims of the rich in power, whose only desire is to acquire more wealth.Besides, this administration has declared our Constitution to be nothing more than a G-- D----D piece of paper, and treat its' words with the same utter contempt.The Reverend Bud Green [ Post Comment ] Comment #80 posted by whig on April 18, 2007 at 11:00:03 PT crime and service I said I was done but I thought of something else. Criminals who possess guns are militia too. Regulations can control them without prison. [ Post Comment ] Comment #79 posted by whig on April 18, 2007 at 10:55:17 PT regulations My own suggestions are only that, and I don't want to take this too far off-topic. It is possible for reasonable people to disagree on what regulations are useful and what are dangerous.I'm not qualified to answer that. I am showing what I consider to be constitutionally permissible. You cannot be prohibited from firearms, but you can be drafted into the militia if you possess arms. Just the way the constitution was written. If we choose not to register militia we lose control of the militia, and a well-regulated militia is either necessary or it is not.With that, I'll move on unless anyone wants me to respond specifically about this. [ Post Comment ] Comment #78 posted by BGreen on April 18, 2007 at 10:52:27 PT Guns I don't think more government intrusion is beneficial to anybody when all we need is personal accountability.The Reverend Bud Green [ Post Comment ] Comment #77 posted by Had Enough on April 18, 2007 at 10:51:56 PT Old Saying bears repeating though.“When guns are outlawed, only Outlaws will have guns”An outlaw will never register his weapons.Only responsible people who handle firearms properly will register, and we need not fear these people. [ Post Comment ] Comment #76 posted by whig on April 18, 2007 at 10:51:13 PT Had Enough Do you reject regulation of the militia? [ Post Comment ] Comment #75 posted by Had Enough on April 18, 2007 at 10:46:42 PT Required Registered guns. More big brother in your living room. [ Post Comment ] Comment #74 posted by whig on April 18, 2007 at 10:44:21 PT BGreen What do you think of this, require all firearms to be registered as militia weapons, and require militia service of all who register. Then we don't need a standing army, either. [ Post Comment ] Comment #73 posted by FoM on April 18, 2007 at 10:25:09 PT BGreen You make sense to me. [ Post Comment ] Comment #72 posted by BGreen on April 18, 2007 at 10:24:42 PT Ignorance is totally avoidable in almost everybody In an age where answers to almost everything are but a few keystrokes away, there is no ignorance but willful ignorance in all but the mentally challenged.Willful ignorance is tantamount to lies, theft, torture and murder, because it's the willful ignorant that gave us this administration and all of the lies, theft, torture and murder that has resulted.The Reverend Bud Green [ Post Comment ] Comment #71 posted by Had Enough on April 18, 2007 at 10:17:22 PT BGreen #70 Agreed.I would like to echo that point. All of them. [ Post Comment ] Comment #70 posted by BGreen on April 18, 2007 at 10:10:22 PT Guns don't kill peole, our Gov't and LEA's do When a mentally disturbed foreigner, under police radar for two years, a stalker, and known to everyone around him as threatening and frightening, can legally pass a background check and legally buy guns to be used in a mass murder, but ME, as a CITIZEN, am forbidden to own protection, then guns are easier for criminals to have and that just has to stop.I can't remember EVER hearing about somebody locally saving their life by having a gun, but innocent people get "accidentally" killed almost monthly around here. Mostly kids, shot by other kids.There are too many guns being manufactured and already manufactured to put a blanket ban on them. That would just eliminate the "honest, legal" owner's guns, keeping the violent criminals armed to the teeth.If we would have prosecuted GUN CRIMINALS with the same voracity as we've tried to eliminate cannabis and it's partakers, we wouldn't be in this predicament.Man, this country is so f%^#ed up.The Reverend Bud Green [ Post Comment ] Comment #69 posted by Toker00 on April 18, 2007 at 09:18:20 PT Ignorance is not necessarily a bad word... unless what you are ignoring could cause problems for other people. To be ignorant simply means to "NOT GET IT", or ignoring the facts. If they take our (those who choose to protect and defend) guns, then who will protect you (those who are protected and defended) from so many more crimes that would occur with criminals KNOWING you don't have a Weapon of Mass Protection. See? That's why I call it a necessary negative, with potential for positive effects. Freedom MUST be protected.Just my 2 cents. Now I'm moving on...Toke. [ Post Comment ] Comment #68 posted by FoM on April 17, 2007 at 18:44:12 PT mayan I eat animals but as little as possible. I buy mine from a grocery store and they come from cow farms and are butchered humanely. My nephew was a butcher for many years and he told me how quick it was. It bothered me but I understand some people really like meat. [ Post Comment ] Comment #67 posted by mayan on April 17, 2007 at 18:40:29 PT FoM Do you eat animals? [ Post Comment ] Comment #66 posted by FoM on April 17, 2007 at 18:38:23 PT mayan I don't take anything from anyone. I respect people who don't see the need for high powered guns like what was used to kill all of these students. If a gun is for hunting shouldn't the animal at least have a chance? [ Post Comment ] Comment #65 posted by mayan on April 17, 2007 at 18:23:50 PT FoM Would you take the guns of those who legally possess them? [ Post Comment ] Comment #64 posted by FoM on April 17, 2007 at 17:41:06 PT mayan Why do you call people who are anti gun ignorant? That's not nice. There is more then one way to look at an issue. [ Post Comment ] Comment #63 posted by mayan on April 17, 2007 at 17:28:48 PT Who Benefits? Nobody benefits. The ignorant anti-gun lobby won't benefit even if they succeed in their gaols of disarming all of us. Then we all lose. Law enforcement/government won't benefit even if they succeed in stealing all of our liberties. Then America dies. Do you think it was a black-op or what? [ Post Comment ] Comment #62 posted by whig on April 17, 2007 at 01:11:31 PT Gonzales testimony delayed Was supposed to be tomorrow. Postponed. So he can deal with the school shootings that happened today. [ Post Comment ] Comment #61 posted by whig on April 17, 2007 at 01:10:28 PT mayan The school shooting, who benefits? Domestic terrorism? [ Post Comment ] Comment #60 posted by whig on April 16, 2007 at 22:54:34 PT museman Those are some very powerful names. [ Post Comment ] Comment #59 posted by mayan on April 16, 2007 at 15:48:01 PT whig Of course Pravda is full of sh*t! But then again, so is our mainstream media. It wouldn't surprise me one way or the other. [ Post Comment ] Comment #58 posted by Hope on April 16, 2007 at 11:57:41 PT A book about raising them... Could call it, "My Joy and My Glory". [ Post Comment ] Comment #57 posted by Hope on April 16, 2007 at 11:51:21 PT Museman Comment 52 The names of your joy and your glory. [ Post Comment ] Comment #56 posted by Hope on April 16, 2007 at 11:44:04 PT Oh....bad day for typing. I should stay away from this machine....but I can't. Sometimes. [ Post Comment ] Comment #55 posted by Hope on April 16, 2007 at 11:42:57 PT Toker_00 What a wonderful experience for you niece. I can only imagine how wonderful and exciting that is for her. Twelve years old. Dancing in the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade. That is so cool! [ Post Comment ] Comment #54 posted by Hope on April 16, 2007 at 11:38:07 PT Museman A twelve year old?You got a long ways to go, Bud.:0)It is such an important job...but no one knows that better than you. You ought to write a book on child (people) rearing. [ Post Comment ] Comment #53 posted by Hope on April 16, 2007 at 11:31:58 PT ooooh I need my spell check back! Neice? Niece? Arggg. [ Post Comment ] Comment #52 posted by museman on April 16, 2007 at 09:38:23 PT whig Seven.FeraleEbramJosaiwaChauntaweJeshuelAriellaArtesiain that order. [ Post Comment ] Comment #51 posted by museman on April 16, 2007 at 09:36:45 PT hatred and jealousy These are the 2 'noble' virtues of Aristocracy. The 'love' of money and possession is just a republican twist; a whitewash over the true sentiment of jeolousy which sets neighbor against neighbor, brother against brother, and in general spreads fear and aprehension throughout the land.The 'love' of mockery -mislabeled 'humor' is just another trick from the right wing, which is merely the way the (money)rich denies their own degenerate state of mind.The social elite always assume that the rest of us desire their wealth and power so much that they must protect it and themselves from our 'jealousy.' Yet they go out of their way to promote and excite that emotion, by parading around in the 'best' (most expensive) clothes, cars, and living in their proper-ty. If they succeed in pissing off the common man enough to worry...well wars have solved that problem since they invented their little game about 10,000 years ago, give or take.Sometimes it is hard to take. You struggle to be honest, and to follow the golden rule, the you realize that not only do they also follow their own 'golden rule' - the 'gold makes the rule' but almost all of their actions are tainted with their seething hatred and rampant jealousies which they try to pass off as some kind of virtuous behavior.I am often accused of being jealous, and of harboring hatred (usually by the rich, or the wannabe rich) because I feel a certain responsibility to shine the light on the darkness, and as far as I can see, from experience, history, and seeking the Sacred, the darkest regions existing on planet earth, are in the minds and hearts of those whose outer shells seem to shine the brightest (by selfish standards of propriety)-the rich and powerful, who constantly and consistently 'look down their noses' at the rest of us, not because they are better than us, but because they fear the truth, which is that all their money, power, and property just aint worth a damn in the real world of Gods Creation, and in the end they will have wasted their time and their lives in pursuit of empty air, with nothing to show on their death, except the meaningless 'honors' mouthed by their survivors, which might be good for a spot on the evening news, but certainly not -like their lives- of any true substance whatsoever. [ Post Comment ] Comment #50 posted by whig on April 16, 2007 at 09:18:13 PT museman Wow, quite a span. How many total? [ Post Comment ] Comment #49 posted by Toker00 on April 16, 2007 at 09:13:38 PT Hope, on that note, I called my sister in Ar. yesterday and found out my great niece is going to New York to dance in Macy's Thanksgiving day parade. The classic Bugler Boy of Company B. Or something like that. It will be great for her. She is 12 and her age group is 12-13 years old. Prescott, Arkansas, in case y'all see it. They will get to see a Broadway Play and other things children in the South never see. I'm so proud for her. (Puts away his own horn.)Toke. [ Post Comment ] Comment #48 posted by museman on April 16, 2007 at 09:06:08 PT whig#21 One more to go. My last child is now 12. [ Post Comment ] Comment #47 posted by museman on April 16, 2007 at 09:04:17 PT Bgreen "Here's a clue: I have no problems with a smirk and I've always loved chimps, but I'd die a happy man if I never had to see or be ruled by a smirking chimp ever again."Couldn't have said it any better! "Everywhere you look there's a monkey on the throne..." [ Post Comment ] Comment #46 posted by Hope on April 16, 2007 at 08:51:10 PT "My neice attended a big school..." And graduated and is now a mother and a teacher. She was a first string Lady Longhorn. [ Post Comment ] Comment #45 posted by Hope on April 16, 2007 at 08:38:35 PT BGreen, " temptation to hate" It's been bad, for sure. It really yanks me around. The War on Drugs has been a historical disaster of humanity. Innocent people have been killed in the name of their stupid "war". Our prisons are full of nonviolent people...at least they were when they were sucked into the system. The rest of us are being robbed, literaly, by the tax system to support this terrible Inquisition. It's certainly enough to stir the seeds of hatred, for sure.It can seem that some things and people deserve a certain amount of hatred, but we know full well that hatred is a bad and destructive thing and it NEVER leads to anything good.Spiritual warfare is what it is. That desire to hate is like a cannon blast to the heart...but we have to resist it. It can be staggering. It can knock you senseless for a bit... but on we must go...trying our best to do the right thing. Always. [ Post Comment ] Comment #44 posted by FoM on April 16, 2007 at 08:31:14 PT Hope Thank you. I hope the future of being civil has arrived. I never found any talk shows to be what I wanted to invest my time in. What we put into our mind we can become. I guard my mind very closely. [ Post Comment ] Comment #43 posted by Hope on April 16, 2007 at 08:26:59 PT With the backlash to Imus's hateful remark... I'm hopeful that it could mean the start of a better and new era of civility.Maybe it means Shock Jocks will move into the past. (R. Limbaugh, included). They, and those that listen to them and admire them, get so used to saying such ugly, hateful things...and thinking it's funny...(so juvenile) that they actually lose touch with their real humanity. They degrade others so easily and joyfully that they lose touch with reality. Imus certainly did.My neice attended a big school with a basketball scholarship. I played basketball in highschool myself. I simply can't imagine the mindset that made him say that. Yes, I can imagine it. Yuck. [ Post Comment ] Comment #42 posted by Zandor on April 16, 2007 at 08:10:14 PT Drug Company to profit in the near future? I still feel the only way we will ever have legal medical marijuana is for a major drug maker to profit from it. This has nothing to do with science or helping the sick or suffering.This is about corporate profits pure and simple!Don't think that when the day comes that they allow medical marijuana to be grown and cared for by us. It will be another fake pill from Merick or another corporate drug maker to sell for 20 bucks a pill. Insurance will not pay for it; it's experimental so it does not qualify.You think the club price is to high.....(hell yes it is!) but just wait until corporate America gets a hold of it. [ Post Comment ] Comment #41 posted by whig on April 16, 2007 at 08:08:55 PT mayan Pravda is full of shit. Imus was fired because we wanted him fired, because he called a group of innocent young women athletes a bunch of dirty whores, using a racist and misogynistic slur. [ Post Comment ] Comment #40 posted by mayan on April 16, 2007 at 02:56:15 PT Imus This is interesting...American radio icon Don Imus disgraced, fired after threat to reveal 9/11 secrets: http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/89728-0/ [ Post Comment ] Comment #39 posted by BGreen on April 15, 2007 at 22:48:25 PT Interesting thing about hate I have never been filled with the temptation to hate more than in the past seven years.Now, who or what might be responsible for that?Here's a clue: I have no problems with a smirk and I've always loved chimps, but I'd die a happy man if I never had to see or be ruled by a smirking chimp ever again.The Reverend Bud Green [ Post Comment ] Comment #38 posted by Had Enough on April 15, 2007 at 21:56:05 PT on Hate I’ve always thought that “hate” is a very powerful word, and should be handled with care.Just my thoughts… [ Post Comment ] Comment #37 posted by Had Enough on April 15, 2007 at 21:51:53 PT Bulldog Good to SeeYa again…Good info.Keep us posted please. [ Post Comment ] Comment #36 posted by Dankhank on April 15, 2007 at 21:41:19 PT juris ........ this is very interesting, PBD ...I'm a lazy typer ... thanks for the info . [ Post Comment ] Comment #35 posted by publicbulldog on April 15, 2007 at 21:06:23 PT: Don't give up just yet In US WESTERN DISTRICT COURT Seattle, Arguments have been submitted that will question the Federal jurisdiction of State medical marijuana patients being taken into federal courts.. In Seattle where a Federal Court Judge has allowed a medical marijuana patient to smoke medical marijuana for epilepsy,a judge will rule in 30 days on Subject matter jurisdiction issues. If the case is dismissed because of lack of subject matter jurisdiction,The us attorney will no doubt appeal to the 9th circuit,and then to the US Supreme Court. No longer are Norml and the ASA carrying the medical marijuana ball the wrong way. When this decision is made,pending approval of the Attorney that made the arguments, I will post the winning arguments for all Patients to use for protection from federal prosecution. I have these arguments and I am retyping them for several Medical marijuana cases in Federal Court. Three decisions will be made on these arguments within the next 60 days. [ Post Comment ] Comment #34 posted by FoM on April 15, 2007 at 18:00:26 PT whig None of us are all good or all bad. We all have our moments. The difference when people who have the publics attention smear people who are different then what they think is the correct way to live or be then it turns into something not good. [ Post Comment ] Comment #33 posted by whig on April 15, 2007 at 17:49:22 PT Hypocrisy I can be accused of it too. I'm not perfect. I admit I make mistakes. I try to correct them if I recognize them, and I can easily be trapped by the same words that I use, if you do not consider their spirit.You cannot judge the tree unless you test the fruit. [ Post Comment ] Comment #32 posted by whig on April 15, 2007 at 17:48:20 PT Here's the thing I give to charities and I don't talk about how much, or often to whom I give it. These pharisees parade their generosity. [ Post Comment ] Comment #31 posted by whig on April 15, 2007 at 17:47:28 PT FoM It doesn't matter how charitable you are with your right hand if you slap people around with your left. [ Post Comment ] Comment #30 posted by FoM on April 15, 2007 at 17:33:09 PT whig I didn't mean that you hate. I am just talking about hate in general. I never watched Don Imus but I think he has a good side too. He is involved in charities and that is good. He should lose his job in my opinion but what about the other people who offend too? What bothers me is the talking down to us,whoever we are, by some radio and tv people. It hurts feelings and doesn't fix anything. It divides people and doesn't leave any time for reason or understanding. [ Post Comment ] Comment #29 posted by whig on April 15, 2007 at 17:32:25 PT Free speech is free, not paid for Money distorts speech. You can speak for money, but you aren't entitled to the money in the same way you are entitled to speak. Free speech mediated by money means only rich people can speak. [ Post Comment ] Comment #28 posted by whig on April 15, 2007 at 17:31:18 PT Hatred on the air Do we have free speech on public airwaves? Can we even put a political statement on the air for our issue? No, because it's regulated, corporate controlled, and prohibits our voice. Yet they paid Don Imus 10 million dollars a year to call people hateful names. [ Post Comment ] Comment #27 posted by whig on April 15, 2007 at 17:23:34 PT FoM I do not hate, but I do shame those who defile the public trust. There is nothing hateful in shaming those who require a lesson, and the shame ends when the bad conduct does, when the person ceases to be hateful and treats others with respect.I do not feel the slightest bit sorry for Don Imus. He made his bed, and he is a wealthy, wealthy man with plenty of resources who will probably bounce back to some other hatewing media outlet. He was mean to innocent young women who did not deserve to be called dirty whores, and in racist terms at that. He deserved to lose his job. [ Post Comment ] Comment #26 posted by Max Flowers on April 15, 2007 at 17:10:44 PT Information Is Empowerment ...when it comes to the IRS. The truth about who is liable for federal income tax and who isn't is the information people need.Here is some truth (from www.originalintent.org/edu/fedincometax.php ):Although federal taxation is a topic of considerable complexity, Original Intent has condensed the essential and significant elements to what you see in this treatise. It is our hope that this information will assist you and others in the proper administration of your own tax issues. The issues we have addressed are the following: 1. The term "income tax" can be used by the US government and its courts to describe revenue laws generally, or it can be used to describe a specific type of tax. 2. 16th Amendment "income" and the ordinary "compensation for labor" of the average American are not the same thing. 3. Each subtitle (A through E) of the IRC imposes a completely different type of tax and subtitle C taxes are not the same tax as subtitle A taxes. 4. No tax law can apply to you if in doing so it would violate one or more of your "unalienable rights" (unless it is a direct tax). 5. One of your unalienable rights is to exchange your labor for other forms of property (including money) without having to give a percentage to the government. The only way the government can tax such compensation is with a direct tax, and Congress has not imposed a direct tax upon compensation for labor. 6. You need not provide an identifying number if you've determined the transaction is not taxable. 7. No reporting is required if you've determined that the transaction is not taxable to you. 8. If the person making a payment to you wants to report the payment even after you've made the determination that it not a taxable transaction, that person may do so without a number and must affix the appropriate affidavit to the information return. [Contact Us for the affidavit.] 9. Under the regulations created by the Secretary of the Treasury for tax matters, a person making a payment to you has no other remedy than the steps specified in item 8 if you refuse to provide a number. Actions such as firing you, or withholding payments owed, are not lawful options because no law specifies such conduct as a remedy. 10. It is our responsibility to inform our friends and neighbors of these truths. Sending them the URL for this page is one great way to do that! Most are ignorant or afraid or both. We should endeavor to cure their ignorance and give them sufficient information and support so that they need no longer fear the IRS. 11. Despite the illegal and immoral conduct of the government [most notably the Treasury Department, the IRS, and the US Department of Justice, Tax Division] the truth is that US Individual Income Tax applies primarily to aliens and only to working American Citizens in very narrow circumstances that are not generally applicable to the public at large. [ Post Comment ] Comment #25 posted by FoM on April 15, 2007 at 16:08:23 PT whig Hate is a terrible thing. It makes me sad because people that hate really are hurting only themselves. Hate turns on a person so why hate? I don't like George Bush but I don't hate him. I pity him in a way because his life will be a very troubled one when he is out of office. I feel sorry for Don Imus. What a way to end a career. I didn't watch his show because I don't like that style of show but when judgmentalism enters the picture it stirs hate and hate makes wars and hurts many people. What a strange world we live in. [ Post Comment ] Comment #24 posted by whig on April 15, 2007 at 15:44:53 PT Shame Shame. Shame. Shame.Those of you who are charged with protecting your flock, and who fleece them for your own pleasure and then feed them to the wolves for your own protection. [ Post Comment ] Comment #23 posted by whig on April 15, 2007 at 15:43:30 PT persecution I will only do this while they themselves continue to persecute. I will not use violence or threat of violence, but I will use shame and threat of shame. I will shame them until they are despised by their followers, until they are dumped like Don Imus and anyone else who preaches the gospel of hate.And they will accuse me, and I will say, I will relent immediately, if you only speak the truth now.And I will treat them as I expect to be treated, and if I am unjust to anyone, I want to be told, and I want to understand, and I want to cease in doing anything that is wrong. [ Post Comment ] Comment #22 posted by whig on April 15, 2007 at 15:41:10 PT FoM I believe that the church should feed the hungry and provide medicine to the sick. I am going to persecute the persecutors until they relent and do this. [ Post Comment ] Comment #21 posted by whig on April 15, 2007 at 15:39:59 PT museman Happy birthday to your daughter. Are all of your children adults now? [ Post Comment ] Comment #20 posted by Celaya on April 15, 2007 at 14:53:27 PT Whoops. I found it! Never mind 8^) Global Marijuana March - Saturday - May 5 [ Post Comment ] Comment #19 posted by Celaya on April 15, 2007 at 14:49:41 PT Marijuana Marches? I noticed Cures-not-Wars has not updated their site for 2007. I wonder why. http://www.cures-not-wars.org/Does anyone know where there is a list of world cities participating this year? (Just a couple of weeks away!) [ Post Comment ] Comment #18 posted by FoM on April 15, 2007 at 14:18:55 PT Dankhank I think in the past the cans were sold on EBay. The money was then donated if I remember right. [ Post Comment ] Comment #17 posted by Dankhank on April 15, 2007 at 14:10:25 PT: Two things 'bout this story ... Hey Irv ... 1. What kinda cannabis is being sent to the researchers? The doc has a three-plus-year supply of the stuff ... what is it and how do you store for three years, freeze it? I think I read a time or two that they have the THC isolated and just spray it on the leaves, sticks, seeds, and bud, (?), they roll in those phattie-looking doobs that come in those neat little cans. OT, whaddya suppose Irv does with all those cans he has received? does he have the most perfectly organized Garage in the Western world or what?Hey Irv, I'd like to have one of those cans ... Whaddya say?2. Every time someone says they want the definitive study of Cannabis, if it's from a prohib Point of View, they have lost the argument. Don't know much 'bout Sen. John Vasconcellos. What is his position, does someone know?I do know he's been in the MMJ fight in CA for a while ... [ Post Comment ] Comment #16 posted by FoM on April 15, 2007 at 13:11:17 PT Canadian Cannabis News Health Canada Markup on Government-Certified Dope 1,500 Percent: Documents http://www.cjad.com/node/511681 [ Post Comment ] Comment #15 posted by FoM on April 15, 2007 at 12:10:01 PT whig You know how I look at it? We are to feed the hungry. There aren't any exceptions to that rule. I don't see things like most people do I guess. [ Post Comment ] Comment #14 posted by whig on April 15, 2007 at 11:54:36 PT FoM That's so true. Hungry people have to work for their supper. [ Post Comment ] Comment #13 posted by FoM on April 15, 2007 at 11:11:32 PT museman Thank you. It sure is hard for so many of us to make ends meet. They want us poor because when people are poor they have to spend all their time trying to get thru each day. If they would allow people to make a decent living and not take it all somehow just think of how good America could be someday. We can pray towards that end. [ Post Comment ] Comment #12 posted by museman on April 15, 2007 at 11:05:22 PT FoM Thanks. May You all have the same, and may the IRS pestilence pass over your house. [ Post Comment ] Comment #11 posted by museman on April 15, 2007 at 11:03:04 PT FoM Social Security has already declared me unworthy...too much trade and barter and not enough banking. No credit...ever. [ Post Comment ] Comment #10 posted by FoM on April 15, 2007 at 11:00:56 PT museman Please tell her Happy Birthday from me! Have a great day! [ Post Comment ] Comment #9 posted by FoM on April 15, 2007 at 10:59:53 PT museman We haven't made enough money for years to pay into Federal Tax either. We have to pay social security or we wouldn't have to pay in I don't think. Maybe this year because we sold a little standing lumber off our land. [ Post Comment ] Comment #8 posted by museman on April 15, 2007 at 10:59:30 PT FoM It's also one of my daughter's 18th birthday today, so I have another aspect of the day to focus on, a real one. [ Post Comment ] Comment #7 posted by museman on April 15, 2007 at 10:56:17 PT FoM All sarcasm aside, I know the situation. There are literal guns on the belts of trigger-happy centurians ready to back you into an 8x8 cell should you decide to do some witholding of your own. I respect the dilemna, but I also have to point out the obvious -that it is the people themselves who continue to support the powers in place by bending over, and bowing to the thugs, liars, thieves, and pretenders that force americans to acquiesce -or else-.I am a rare american, in that I have managed -(mostly through a happenstance of poverty) to not support in any monetary way -since my military days- these swine that compose 99% of every political and financial institution owned by americans.It's not a lot I suppose, in terms of 'social action' but there is a part of me that feels a lot cleaner for it. [ Post Comment ] Comment #6 posted by FoM on April 15, 2007 at 10:43:01 PT museman We will be filing tomorrow and we always have to pay in because of being self employed. I'll be glad when I know how much we have to send. It could be near $2,000 but we have contruction deductions and I hope that will help lower it. It is really hard for us to have that kind of money. [ Post Comment ] Comment #5 posted by museman on April 15, 2007 at 10:38:27 PT Happy Tax Day! I hope all the american consumers out there got their tribute in the mail. Wouldn't want the bankers to have to borrow more money from themselves for all their wars and aquisitions.Wouldn't want the DEA, CIA, FDA, or the USA to have to cut their wages of death and destruction. Keep those dollars flowin' folks. And don't forget what the fuhrer said; "Buy, buy, buy!"Gotta keep the funding for corporate pillaging in the black, and don't forget to check that little box on the Imperial Tribute Form (1040) to 'donate' part of your 'refund' to paying for the political campaigns of the already rich and famous.Gotta pay those reps who are hustling to figure out a way to make more money from ripping off the natural providence of the earth, by patenting Creation, and then selling it back to us with a whopping percentage of the cost included in the overpackaging.Gotta keep the oil flowing, along with the blood -all that takes your money folks, so hurry up and get Rome your dollars -the rewards are 3 new sitcoms on Fox -how generous of our masters! [ Post Comment ] Comment #4 posted by mai_bong_city on April 15, 2007 at 09:17:17 PT here's one for you protecting the citizens from their own state laws?http://tinyurl.com/yw7aga [ Post Comment ] Comment #3 posted by Hope on April 15, 2007 at 09:13:43 PT comfort Those who fight the legalization of cannabis are "denying comfort" to the sick and dieing.What prejudice! What self righteousness! What ignorance! [ Post Comment ] Comment #2 posted by FoM on April 15, 2007 at 08:59:29 PT MBC I agree that seven or eight years is way to long. Many people will die between now and then and because of the legality of Cannabis many will shun it and will just keep suffering. I get so tired of the lack of urgency that we see. [ Post Comment ] Comment #1 posted by mai_bong_city on April 15, 2007 at 08:54:46 PT promising..but i still think that the ADA is a protection that ought to be looked-into, as well. it says a drug is 'not illegal' when used under supervision of a licensed healthcare professional. the disabled are a 'protected class' under the act. there's got to be a way. we can't wait seven or eight more years for sanity and compassion. [ Post Comment ] Post Comment