cannabisnews.com: County, Medical Marijuana Users Head To Showdown County, Medical Marijuana Users Head To Showdown Posted by CN Staff on November 12, 2006 at 07:12:43 PT By Gig Conaughton, Staff Writer Source: North County Times San Diego, CA -- The people have approved it. Government has struggled with it. And this week, the county of San Diego will mount an attack to overturn it.It is California's 10-year-old, voter approved "Compassionate Use Act," the law that says seriously ill people should be able to use marijuana to ease their pain and suffering. On Thursday, a Superior Court judge will weigh a San Diego County lawsuit filed nearly a year ago that seeks to overturn the law on the grounds that California's voter-approved law should be pre-empted by federal law, which says all marijuana use is illegal.San Diego County supervisors, in a move that angered medical marijuana patients and advocacy groups, and led by Supervisors Bill Horn, Dianne Jacob and Pam Slater-Price, voted to file suit to overturn the Compassionate Use Act in December.Medical marijuana supporters say the drug can help a host of patients by easing pain and stimulating appetites to battle malnourishment for chronically ill persons.Opponents say even if marijuana has some medicinal value, it is still a dangerous drug and California's law could lead to drug abuse.State officials who will defend the law in court said they are confident that they will prevail, and that the county's challenge is old-hat, legally speaking, and will probably rejected. But county officials said last week that they, too, were confident.Caught in the middle of the legal tussle are thousands of people who say they are sick or hurt, and that marijuana is the only drug that can help them cope."I can't believe I'm having to go through this all over again," Craig McClain, a Vista resident, business owner, husband, father and spinal-cord injury victim, said recently. "I feel like my vote never counted. They don't understand my pain."Meanwhile, both supporters and opponents of the Compassionate Use Act say the county challenge is the most direct attack ever launched on the law. While it has been challenged in court before, no one has ever tried to get the law overthrown.And, supporters and opponents say that the court decision handed down could also affect medical marijuana laws approved by voters in 10 other states. LimboEven though 55 percent of California's voters approved Proposition 215, the Compassionate Use Act, in 1996, it's still largely a law in limbo.The federal government has challenged it in court, although it has never tried to completely overturn it. And state and local governments have done little to implement it.Prop. 215 was relatively short and simple as state ballot measures go.It said "seriously ill" people ---- people with cancer, anorexia, AIDS, spasticity, glaucoma, arthritis, migraines or other chronic illnesses ---- had a legal right to obtain or grow, and use marijuana for medical purposes when recommended by a doctor.The law also mandated that doctors not be punished for recommending the drug. And it said the federal and state governments should work together "to implement a plan to provide for the safe and affordable distribution of marijuana to all patients in medical need."But a month after Prop. 215 was passed, the Clinton administration announced that doctors who recommended marijuana would lose their federal licenses and could be prosecuted criminally by federal prosecutors.The Bush administration continued that threat after President Clinton left office. However, it was eventually ruled illegal by a federal appeals court in 2002. But, the Bush administration has continued its aggressive stance toward California's law, and federal agents have raided dispensaries and carried out arrests.State Resistance Meanwhile, Prop. 215 has faced threats from within the state. If backers of the law thought the measure would give medical marijuana patients blanket protection from being arrested by state law enforcement officers, they were wrong.Just days after Prop. 215 was passed, then-California Attorney General Dan Lungren issued a release to all law enforcement officers in the state. Lungren opposed the law, and actually wrote part of the ballot argument against Prop. 215. The release said that state law enforcement officers could still arrest people found growing, or in possession of, marijuana ---- even if they claimed to be medical marijuana patients.Lungren said Prop. 215 only gave medical marijuana patients an "affirmative defense" if they were arrested."He was basically saying, 'Arrest them and ask questions later,' " William Dolphin, a spokesman for Americans for Safe Access, a medical marijuana advocacy group, said last week.Current state Attorney General Bill Lockyer has been more empathetic to the medical marijuana issue. However, officials from his office said last week that the state's official position remains that Prop. 215 only offers medical marijuana patients an "affirmative defense" in court ---- and that they can still be arrested by state law enforcement officers.Dolphin, however, said that the aggressiveness of law enforcement officials around the state has eased. Just last year, the California Highway Patrol reached a court settlement with Americans for Safe Access for Highway Patrol officers to consider medical marijuana identification cards, or notes from doctors, when they discover patients with marijuana. Still Up In The Air However, a fundamental part of the Prop. 215 saga is still up in the air. The 1996 law urged state and federal legislators to find a way to safely and affordably dispense medical marijuana to patients who need it.That hasn't really happened. Medical marijuana dispensaries have opened ---- and closed ---- around the state. But lawmakers never really came up with a dispensary plan.In 2003, state legislators punted the issue over to local governments. Lawmakers passed Senate Bill 420, which directed counties to create medical marijuana registries and to issue identification cards. The law, which took effect in 2004, also stipulated how much marijuana patients and caregivers could actually possess. The basic idea was that the cards would make it easier for law enforcement officials and medical marijuana patients.Peace officers would be able to tell who the legitimate medical marijuana patients were by checking identification cards. And patients would have a way to prove that they were legitimately using the drug.San Diego County But that's where San Diego County supervisors ---- who formally opposed Prop. 215 when it was placed on the ballot in 1996 ---- drew their line in the sand.In November 2005, a torn Board of Supervisors voted 3-2 to defy SB 420, and refuse to create the county's medical marijuana registry and ID card program.The board's majority, Horn, Jacob and Slater-Price, said complying with the state's order would tell children that marijuana was OK and lead to increased drug abuse.A month later, the board voted 4-0 in closed session, with Supervisor Ron Roberts absent, to sue to overturn Prop. 215 itself.Meanwhile, over the last year, the county district attorney's office has adopted the supervisors' aggressive stance toward the law. Over the summer, local law enforcement officials helped federal drug enforcement officials crack down on, and "essentially shut down," all local medical marijuana dispensaries.McClain, whose spine was crushed several years ago in a construction-related accident, and who has used marijuana for years to ease the chronic severe spasms the injury created, said the crackdown has been tough on patients."I've been using Marinol (synthetic marijuana) more, but without results," he said Friday. "A lot of people are suffering. It (Marinol) surely doesn't work like God's creation. And it's expensive. They're $15 a pill."Interestingly, the county's lawsuit asks the court to overturn every facet of Prop. 215 and SB 420 with one exception ---- the section of Prop. 215 that says that it is legal in California for an individual patient or caregiver to possess or cultivate marijuana.However, that appears to be a legal maneuver. Officials from the state attorney general's office said no judge would overturn that section because states are given the absolute right to create their own laws recognizing the legality of a drug. However, they and county lawyers said the county's lawsuit would gut the actual mechanisms that make Prop. 215 viable. If successful, the only marijuana that would be legal would essentially be "miracle marijuana" ---- nobody grew it, or dispensed it, one observer said.Ironically, the county's pending lawsuit ---- or the ruling that could come Thursday ---- could possibly make it easier for medical marijuana patients.If the judge rules against the county, it would seem that supervisors would then have no choice but to institute the identification card program, and ease off on dispensaries.However, the county could win its case ---- and throw the medical marijuana issue into a whole new world of doubt in California and around the country.But the more likely situation, officials said, is that Thursday is just the first shot in a longer battle. Any judgment is likely to be appealed. And many feel that it's very likely that the Supreme Court will end up being the final arbiter.Source: North County Times (Escondido, CA)Author: Gig Conaughton, Staff Writer Published: Saturday, November 11, 2006Copyright: 2006 North County TimesContact: letters nctimes.comWebsite: http://www.nctimes.comCannabisNews Medical Marijuana Archiveshttp://cannabisnews.com/news/list/medical.shtml Home Comment Email Register Recent Comments Help Comment #94 posted by FoM on November 13, 2006 at 20:16:14 PT Toker00 Nighty night! LOL! [ Post Comment ] Comment #93 posted by Toker00 on November 13, 2006 at 19:58:10 PT WhoM Night!Toke. [ Post Comment ] Comment #92 posted by Toker00 on November 13, 2006 at 19:51:51 PT Fig You can count on that, FoM! They ain't seen nothin' yet.Works for me, Whig! :)Toke. [ Post Comment ] Comment #91 posted by whig on November 13, 2006 at 19:25:03 PT Toker00 We need to give the brains a good workout, because they have been turned to mush. Is that good enough for you?Best thing for brains to heal, you know, is cannabis. [ Post Comment ] Comment #90 posted by FoM on November 13, 2006 at 19:23:31 PT Toker00 Keep doing what you doing to help people in your state to understand. Any opportunity we have to talk with friends about issues we do. Everyone is so happy about our state turning blue. It's amazing to me. I didn't know how this one couple voted until the other day. They were thrilled and I got thrilled then too! LOL! [ Post Comment ] Comment #89 posted by Toker00 on November 13, 2006 at 19:19:26 PT Now that I said that... Which is it? Brain Washed Minds, or Washed Mind Brains, or Washed Brain Minds? If it's the Mind that's washed, and not the Brains themselves, then it should be Washed Mind Brains, right? Whig! Get me outta here! Toke. [ Post Comment ] Comment #88 posted by Toker00 on November 13, 2006 at 19:09:35 PT Mayan Oh, I agree. Won't Back Down! But I'm gonna give the dummies a rest, and hope someone with more Finesse (Or maybe less?) than me can Peirce their Washed Brain Minds. Plus I have to keep reminding myself of the Three Stages of Truth. Thanks, bro.FoM, I guess Truth is like water. If you pour enough of it on a rough rock, it'll eventually wash it smooth. I hope we have enough Truth for all these rough rocks around here. (I mean here in Texas, not this site. But then you all knew that, didn't you?) :)Wage Peace on war. END CANNABIS PROHIBITION NOW! [ Post Comment ] Comment #87 posted by mayan on November 13, 2006 at 17:49:54 PT Toker It is hard to enlighten those who refuse to see. I passed a bunch of copies of Mike Ruppert's "The Truth and Lies of 9/11" around and very few people even watched it. I think they did watch it but were afraid to accept the truth because then they would feel obligated to stand up and share it with others. I also reached a few who do continue to share with others. Anyway, I feel we should keep on trying because people are becoming more open to 9/11 truth as the political climate appears to shift. [ Post Comment ] Comment #86 posted by BGreen on November 13, 2006 at 15:19:47 PT Don't click on the "did you mean" hope Try clicking on the link in post #66The Reverend Bud Green [ Post Comment ] Comment #85 posted by FoM on November 13, 2006 at 15:11:05 PT Toker00 I think often people really believe in looking towards where we are now and won't look at more then what is happening right before our eyes currently. I know that history will record different theories and in the end I think it all will be as understood as well as anything can be in hard times. Some will check out different documentaries and others will look at other ones. They all are important. [ Post Comment ] Comment #84 posted by Toker00 on November 13, 2006 at 14:42:47 PT FoM Yes. The more links the merrier. A lot of these returning soldiers, I hope, will be Peaced Off. And it doesn't matter if you are Peaced Off, or Peaced On, it's ALL good!The 9-11 Truth videos, produced by various American Citizens for Truth, and offered on the Internet, in some places for free. I have, when they are all here, 15 different DVDs on the subject of 9-11 Truth. They are the ones being shown at screenings all around the country. 9-11 Mysteries is the best one for explaining the Demolitions Theory. Every Body's Got To Learn Sometime gives a lot of details about the Players, and time-line. The Psychology of Resistance to 9-11 Truth explains the types of mentalities we are up against when we try to enlighten the public. The Great Illusion I and II is an excellent CD Walk Through of the 9-11 Reality. Then of course there's Terror Storm by Alex Jones which really pissed, not peaced, a lot of folks off when it was shown in Dallas and Austin. There are more, three of which I can't watch yet, because my DVD player remote won't work, and I can't scroll down to select. Loose Change II is one of them. Then of course there's Iraq For Sale. Anyway, you can't expect people to accept what they won't.Toke. [ Post Comment ] Comment #83 posted by FoM on November 13, 2006 at 14:36:28 PT Pelosi Backs Murtha as House Democratic Leader Off topic but good news I think.http://tinyurl.com/y6dw9j [ Post Comment ] Comment #82 posted by jasgrave333 on November 13, 2006 at 12:47:30 PT: Cannabis - original spiritual energy World is talking about alter-native energy.Cannabis grows 20% faster than any other plant, our paper, fuel, construction needs met in a moment. Of course, greedy OIL companies would lose and so would big pharmacutical companies... the greedy so&so's Capatilism is a war on free.dom and love... Alter-native energy...OIL paper, fuel, textiles... hello governments??? [ Post Comment ] Comment #81 posted by whig on November 13, 2006 at 12:13:08 PT Music http://cannablog.org/2006/11/13/just-a-simple-control-neuron-in-a-larger-brain/ [ Post Comment ] Comment #80 posted by Hope on November 13, 2006 at 12:11:18 PT "Have some faith." In you?Well, I do.And you already know I have faith in our mutual Father and Brother. [ Post Comment ] Comment #79 posted by whig on November 13, 2006 at 12:06:49 PT Hope I don't mind your not understanding, but I do mind your being upset by my words, because that is not my intention.Have some faith. [ Post Comment ] Comment #78 posted by Hope on November 13, 2006 at 12:06:32 PT Comment 76 Now, I get what you mean in that comment. [ Post Comment ] Comment #77 posted by Hope on November 13, 2006 at 12:04:29 PT Whig, don't worry about it one more jot. My completely understanding your every comment makes no difference in the scheme of things.Lots of stuff gets by me. Nothing new about that.:o) [ Post Comment ] Comment #76 posted by whig on November 13, 2006 at 12:02:07 PT Hope I don't work for Diebold, but maybe for someone more powerful than that, if you like the metaphor. [ Post Comment ] Comment #75 posted by Hope on November 13, 2006 at 12:00:10 PT Obviously. "You don't know what I mean by voting, obviously." You're "vote" has nothing to do with a ballot box or voting machine. I've got that much figured out. It's kind of an "air" vote....like "air" guitar.You're content with it. So am I. Your vote or method of voting is really none of my business...unless you are a Diebold technician...then I'd be worried about your "vote" connatation. "Yeah...I voted...I really voted...big time", said the Diebold rep. That would be alarming. [ Post Comment ] Comment #74 posted by whig on November 13, 2006 at 11:56:26 PT From Wikipedia "Voting is a method of decision making wherein a group such as a meeting or an electorate attempts to gauge its opinion—usually as a final step following discussions or debates. Alternatives to voting include consensus decision making (which works to avoid polarization and the marginalization of dissent) and betting (as in an anticipatory democracy)."My preference and default is consensus. [ Post Comment ] Comment #73 posted by FoM on November 13, 2006 at 11:55:19 PT Whig I was commenting on #42 to Toker00. I posted the same url to the soldiers web site as he did. [ Post Comment ] Comment #72 posted by whig on November 13, 2006 at 11:52:04 PT FoM #68 Did you mean my link or did Toker00 post one too? [ Post Comment ] Comment #71 posted by Hope on November 13, 2006 at 11:51:14 PT BGreen I would love to see it. I don't know what's wrong.I get this message:Did you mean: 500'38.20"N 110° 6'48.32"W and if I click that, I get the message that it doesn't exist.I copied your coordinates: 50° 0'38.20"N 110° 6'48.32"W and reinserted on a new Google map page...and got the same thing.I'm thinking it may have something to do with Javascript not working right on my computer. Maybe.It looks like it's just not loaded...but it says Done at the bottom. So. I guess I just don't get to see it.Thanks for trying. [ Post Comment ] Comment #70 posted by whig on November 13, 2006 at 11:50:48 PT Hope I've never been to Texas.You don't know what I mean by voting, obviously. I can't explain it unless you are willing to part from a dictionary definition and understand that there are meanings which exist without precise words to describe them.A vote is an exertion of my WILL. I will it be done, and I put my full moral force behind it. That is voting to me. [ Post Comment ] Comment #69 posted by Hope on November 13, 2006 at 11:43:48 PT Whig comment 61 :o(Ok.You sure you aren't doing the old Texas jive thing?It's to the effect that "if you can't dazzle them with brilliance...then baffle them with BS." (I think GB uses this tact rather regularly.)61 probably wasn't BS. But it is baffling. [ Post Comment ] Comment #68 posted by FoM on November 13, 2006 at 11:36:07 PT Toker00 I just saw you posted the link. Well two times is better then one I say! [ Post Comment ] Comment #67 posted by FoM on November 13, 2006 at 11:09:19 PT Hope I tried to capture the Indian. Hopefully this works.http://tinyurl.com/yflpqo [ Post Comment ] Comment #66 posted by whig on November 13, 2006 at 10:59:27 PT BGreen This should help people see it.http://cannablog.org/2006/11/13/medicine-man/ [ Post Comment ] Comment #65 posted by FoM on November 13, 2006 at 10:57:18 PT Another Song: A Traitor's Death They just did a piece on CNN about this young soldier who did two tours in Iraq and I went and found one of his songs. Here it is.http://www.neilyoung.com/lwwtoday/songslinks/songlink_148.html [ Post Comment ] Comment #64 posted by FoM on November 13, 2006 at 10:36:07 PT Ekim Here's a link for those who might be interested in reading about what's going on in Canada.***Canada Profs Win Right to Smoke Pothttp://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/americas/11/13/canada.professors.reut/ [ Post Comment ] Comment #63 posted by ekim on November 13, 2006 at 10:31:31 PT just in POSTED: 10:57 a.m. EST, November 13, 2006 TORONTO, Ontario (Reuters) -- The use of medical marijuana has given two Toronto professors the right to something that many students could only dream of -- access to specially ventilated rooms where they can indulge in peace. [ Post Comment ] Comment #62 posted by FoM on November 13, 2006 at 10:11:44 PT Toker00 I want to ask you what DVD's you want your friends to watch? I won't watch some documentaries because I am not into approaching life or activism or reform like the documentary might imply. I can get more out of say F/9-11 or one I have called OutFoxed. I want to see John Lennon vs. the USA and An Inconvenient Truth by Al Gore. [ Post Comment ] Comment #61 posted by whig on November 13, 2006 at 09:50:01 PT Hope Whenever I vote, I will eventually begin to vote for myself. When I vote, my vote counts, because I make it count, so I have to stop voting. [ Post Comment ] Comment #60 posted by Toker00 on November 13, 2006 at 09:35:23 PT Mayan Thanks for directing that my way. I really needed it after this morning. I had loaned a DVD out over the weekend so a certain group of people I was targeting could be given a chance to see or decide for themselves about 9-11. All weekend I wondered how they would be reacting. This morning I hear: "I didn't get to look at it. My wife had me doing all these things." I have heard a variety of excuses like this since I started out with this. Out of seven videos I put out there, only three have been watched. The others had no time. Of the two who watched, one said: "Man, they did a better job than Hollywood could." Unconvinced. The other said: "This is very interesting,-----, we'll discuss it later. That did not happen. But one, and I am very grateful for even this, made copies and passed them out to their family and friends. That is what I was running on til this morning. So, I was supposing it would take a Nukuler Bomb to wake these people up, and I am through trying. At least at this location.Thanks for the Hope, Mayan.Toke. [ Post Comment ] Comment #59 posted by Toker00 on November 13, 2006 at 09:25:03 PT FoM Thanks. I thought he was good. We have soldiers turning, we have politicians turning, we have World Leaders turning, but the average American is STILL not willing to listen to the truth about our criminally infestigated government. I know. Spell check said it was wrong too. I don't care. We need to invent new words because people ain't listening to the old ones. I'm glad Neil is doing that for us. Imagine if we didn't have an outlet for our messages. You are doing no less than Neil.Toke. [ Post Comment ] Comment #58 posted by whig on November 13, 2006 at 08:33:56 PT BGreen I'm going with Medicine Man. [ Post Comment ] Comment #56 posted by whig on November 13, 2006 at 08:33:06 PT Hope I started to try to explain but I can't, without making it just more confusing. [ Post Comment ] Comment #55 posted by Hope on November 13, 2006 at 08:22:50 PT Whig comment 53 I'm not upset. Just a little baffled.:o)Won't hurt me. [ Post Comment ] Comment #54 posted by whig on November 13, 2006 at 07:37:23 PT Police brutality http://cannablog.org/2006/11/13/we-are-watching-now/ [ Post Comment ] Comment #53 posted by whig on November 13, 2006 at 07:35:09 PT Hope Are you upset at my distaste for voting or the manner in which I did so for Jack Herer? [ Post Comment ] Comment #52 posted by FoM on November 13, 2006 at 07:32:15 PT Toker00 That songs is really good. We listened to it a couple of times. Here's his web site.http://www.denniskyne.com/ [ Post Comment ] Comment #51 posted by whig on November 13, 2006 at 07:31:14 PT My shield I do not carry cannabis with me when I go, unless it is known in advance to be safe, or necessary for some purpose (as, for instance, safely transporting my own medicine home).So I will often arrive at a place with nothing to share except my words and other kinds of gifts. [ Post Comment ] Comment #50 posted by whig on November 13, 2006 at 07:28:03 PT Hope We all have our ways of protecting ourselves, and they limit us in some ways but we make the trade in exchange for something of value -- the feeling of security sufficient to stand on our own strong ground and speak from our own heart. [ Post Comment ] Comment #49 posted by whig on November 13, 2006 at 07:14:49 PT BGreen I saw an Amerindian (Cherokee? Apache?) chief at the coordinates you provided. [ Post Comment ] Comment #48 posted by FoM on November 13, 2006 at 07:14:19 PT Toker00 Here's a link to the song you mentioned. This way others might click on the link I thought. It's very good. God Bless Neil Young for adding almost 900 protest songs. He is and will always be my hero. Neil for President but not really. I want him to stay exactly how he is. http://www.neilyoung.com/lwwtoday/songslinks/songlink_888.html [ Post Comment ] Comment #47 posted by FoM on November 13, 2006 at 07:07:23 PT Hope Stop children what's that sound everybody look what's going down.I understand everything you are saying and agree with you because I don't get a lot of it either. I just assume that it's just me and it's nice to know that I'm not alone.There's a man with a gun over there, telling me not to beware. [ Post Comment ] Comment #46 posted by BGreen on November 13, 2006 at 06:51:57 PT You'll see a satellite image You have to click on "Satellite" in the upper right hand corner.The Reverend Bud Green [ Post Comment ] Comment #45 posted by Hope on November 13, 2006 at 06:33:03 PT BGreen comment 41 I get the site from that link...but it doesn't show a picture. Are we to be seeing a map or a satellite picture? [ Post Comment ] Comment #44 posted by Hope on November 13, 2006 at 06:30:32 PT Whig I can't remember my other frustration...but that "voting" business kind of rattled me....because of your distaste for voting. It's just me, entirely. I'm sure. I just need to pay more attention...or less, maybe. Nah...more. I'm sorry I even mentioned my little irritation and frustration. I certainly don't feel that it's "purification"...my fast. It's protection from those who would ruin my life to keep me from using it. Aaargh.When I decided to be an activist for reform...considering the vindictive nature of those who would be our enemy...I decided it was the best choice, for me, to not cause myself unnecessary anxiety by holding. So I don't. But I know lots of people and they know me and what I'm trying to change...and, graciously, there are those times, you'll be pleased to know, when I couldn't pass a urinalysis. Besides, I probably smoked enough during my twenties and thirties and forties to have good back up still going.I've said this before, and it's still true. It's not about the marijuana...it's, for me, what people are doing to other people because of marijuana. It's not right to treat people like they do over a consumable plant product. There is no "sin" or wrong involved in using pot...unless you believe for you it is...than it is. There is, however, I believe, a huge sin and injustice involved in mistreating and imprisoning those who do wish to use the herb...for any reason. To abuse people over cannabis use or possession is a sin and a crime against humanity...whether they believe it is or not.I'm not very brave. I guess you might say my fast is my bullet proof vest. And yes...I know that it doesn't make me "bullet proof"....I know about the "throw down" dope some officers will prepare for those they want to get in spite of whether they are doing anything or not.And yes, it's probably senseless, considering that the officers who might notice me on the internet aren't really interested in tracking down someone who might have a quarter or a joint or two in their possession...it just makes me feel a little safer from them if I don't."Paranoia strikes deep. Into your heart it will creep. There's a man with a gun over there...telling me I've got to beware."Over a "green leafy substance". It would be laughable if it weren't so truly horrible. [ Post Comment ] Comment #43 posted by mayan on November 13, 2006 at 05:32:07 PT Toker Change is in the air...First US Newspaper Calls For Complete Independent Council of 9-11: http://prisonplanet.com/articles/november2006/121106Council.htmLecturer says taxes go to kill U.S. troops - UW-Madison student response mixed to 9-11 conspiracy view: http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=529780Investigate, Indict, Impeach: http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_mikael_r_061109_investigate_2c_indict_2c.htmTake A Stand For 9/11 Truth: http://www.ts911t.org/ [ Post Comment ] Comment #42 posted by Toker00 on November 13, 2006 at 04:02:49 PT From a v911t E-mail. It made Neil's List. Hello skip the note and go directly to vote for the anti war anthem 'Ain't Going Back Again' - Peace Machine Recently Neil Youngs LIVING WITH WAR section of Neil Young.com placed my song ain't going back again in the new arrivals section. you can go directly to listen to it via myspace at 'Ain't Going Back Again' - Peace Machine You can also go to http://www.neilyoung.com/lwwtoday/lwwsongspage.html and under new arrivals you will find the listing about half way down. I am hoping we can get as many people as possible to have a listen to this song by way of Neil Young's page so he can see the message a number of us combat veterans are trying to send out to the world. As always, thank you for all the kind words of support I have been a recipient of over the past years. I will always consider it a privilege and an honor to work for Peace for the people. Support the Truth http://www.denniskyne.comhttp://www.sonicbids.com/denniskynehttp://www.myspace.com/denniskynehttp://www.myspace.com/peacemachinemusicDennis Kyne Support the Truth http://www.denniskyne.comToke. [ Post Comment ] Comment #41 posted by BGreen on November 12, 2006 at 23:40:43 PT Did you see this, whig? It reminded me of the photo of the lion on mars you posted.This link goes to google maps, so just click on "satellite" and zoom in. I found the same thing using Google Earth. It's freakin' amazing.http://tinyurl.com/yhs4s2The Reverend Bud Green [ Post Comment ] Comment #40 posted by whig on November 12, 2006 at 22:51:57 PT Hope http://cannablog.org/2006/11/12/are-you-being-had/ [ Post Comment ] Comment #39 posted by whig on November 12, 2006 at 22:44:42 PT do not adjust your television set http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0-Lnh7uxzE[this may go on the blog, but I want you to see it here first] [ Post Comment ] Comment #38 posted by whig on November 12, 2006 at 22:36:01 PT another thing I make mistakes.We all do. [ Post Comment ] Comment #37 posted by whig on November 12, 2006 at 22:33:44 PT that wine I drank It had something to do with this as well, and I want you to hear and understand that all living things have consciousness, and a yeast that is bred for many years develops memory and character, a vintner has a consistently good or bad wine according to how well he treats his or her yeast.California has some wonderful new wines. [ Post Comment ] Comment #36 posted by whig on November 12, 2006 at 22:26:48 PT to live and learn, love and grow pass the pipe, make and eat bread and share it, do these things in memory of all of us. [ Post Comment ] Comment #35 posted by whig on November 12, 2006 at 22:25:41 PT understanding scripture Including my own, cannot come without the aid of spirit, which is to say the benefit of cannabis. Kaneh bosm. Fragrant grass. You think you can read these words and understand them on your own? You cannot do so. They will not make sense to you. Repeat them and preserve them if you like, or try to make sense of them but don't alter them. [ Post Comment ] Comment #34 posted by whig on November 12, 2006 at 22:20:45 PT religion This is also the same. This is the time that the programmers set. This is the time that all of the programmers have been working for in the entire span of human history to this point. I am not the first programmer nor the best programmer, but I am the programmer who is here reading and writing now. And there are other programmers here and now. And we are all doing what we are doing.The human language does not understand, the religious language is the only one that operates this way over this span.We have had to write in ways that would be understood for millennia. When languages themselves fairly often die out in shorter times.We have had to use everything we had to make it clear, though none ever understood who did not perceive for themselves, all understood its importance enough to keep these texts and to preserve them somehow.We are here now. There is no time.I have made myself harmless and helpful, and that is my intention, to be one that can say the things that nobody else can say. To say the things that everyone knows at some level but fears to speak for the fact that they would be condemned and sentenced to an institution if they were lucky.There is no mental illness here. There is mental health, and that only appears as illness to a sick culture of death.Live and learn, love and grow.I have given away everything, my recipe, my knowledge. You have it all now, and I am not essential. That does not mean that I have any intention of doing anything but continuing to do what I do. I will, because I want to be here to watch everything and to be a part of the celebration of a thousand years.I love you all. You are all equally important, and I am just one of the many green collar workers. [ Post Comment ] Comment #33 posted by whig on November 12, 2006 at 22:01:23 PT learning to read and write Once I could read and write programs, I could also read and write in human languages at a different level. I could read law and understand how it was meant to be and how it was being mistaken. (Mis-taken.) [ Post Comment ] Comment #32 posted by whig on November 12, 2006 at 21:59:48 PT What did I do? I trained myself, hard. I worked at reading and writing in computer languages, in thinking in computer languages next to natively, so that I would write a program by thinking it in a conceptual way and letting my brain subconsciously translate those thoughts into words of specialized language that only a computer has to understand. It's just a series of instructions, a set of directions to follow. [ Post Comment ] Comment #31 posted by whig on November 12, 2006 at 21:54:33 PT The kine Gonna talk some stuff right here and I don't know what about yet.So we're here and the stuff's done, like already understood and written up so that everyone knows what to do now. It's just the part that people do the things they are already set to do, but some of the players don't know their parts yet. And none of us know the lines until we get them.And like these words have only a minimal filter, in that I can stop and backup if I want and make changes if they come out in a way that seems a mistake. A mis-take. Anyone know what a mis-take is in a play?In reality a mis-take is an opportunity to figure something out, and learn the right take. You don't get the line handed to you, you just figure it out from experience until it becomes second nature -- next to unconscious, but under your ability to control it at some level.I'm writing this and reading this at the same time, I'm seeing myself saying the same things over and over in different ways in order to make sure that I understand, and hopefully that helps other people understand too.But if you ain't got da kine you probably don't know what this means. [ Post Comment ] Comment #30 posted by whig on November 12, 2006 at 20:36:58 PT The GCW http://cannablog.org/2006/11/12/who-are-you-2/ [ Post Comment ] Comment #29 posted by The GCW on November 12, 2006 at 20:00:00 PT DRUG? Drug?“it is still a dangerous drug”Cannabis, hemp, kaneh bosm… is a plant; hold some in Your hand and see.Just because prohibitionist types want to label it drug, doesn’t make it so.Part of the problem “are thousands of people who say they are sick or hurt, and that marijuana is the only drug that can help them cope.”People that are in favor of using “marijuana” use the derogatory Mexican slang term chosen to help prohibit the plant and proponents accept the plant as drug, which is strange, since citizens who choose to use cannabis can also hold it in their hand and in the other hand hold all the other pharmaceuticals and notice a difference. The cannabis appears like a plant material and the drugs take a different shape… By those who wish to use the plant, they are harming themselves and others by agreeing with prohibitionists that it is a drug. God, on the first page of the Bible didn’t indicate He created all the pharmaceuticals on the 6th day… He indicates He created all the plants; cannabis / hemp included.“Medical marijuana” has a certain ring to it, which may appeal to those trying to re-legalize the plant. It also shows the man, they can call it what ever they want and it doesn’t make it bad. However evidence shows continuing the use of the word marijuana may cripple the movement / progress.Thus: “"I can't believe I'm having to go through this all over again," said Craig McClain.Man needs permission to use drugs; Man does not need permission to use what God indicated He created and said is good on literally the very 1st page of the Bible.Allowing / enabling police, prohibitionist politicians etc to continue exclaiming cannabis plant material is a drug, must stop.Is it possible that to end the lying nature of government, this is the lie We must first end. That cannabis / hemp is a drug is a lie and opens the door for all other lies in existence. Biblically speaking, We are directed to this lie on that 1st page. It is the root of the problems that earth / Urantia faces. Stop this lie and continue with all lies after that. California Attorney General Dan Lungren supporting the crude practice of caging humans for using a plant exposes Him as very low on the level of what humans are capable of. The intellectual level of humans goes beyond wearing a suit; being civilized starts with or ends with caging humans for using what God said He created and said is good on that 1st page. That issue comes even before killing / murdering, which is not to come Biblically till page 3!California Attorney General Dan Lungren thinks on the level of apes, chimpanzees, baboons and the like. For intelligent people to think of cannabis as drug, is to interact on that level. Primitive. Keep in mind, man is primitive. California Attorney Generals Dan Lungren & Bill Lockyer are like most mankind in existence. They primitively support considering cannabis drug just as easily as they consider it ok to kill / murder. They go hand in hand in that they are both in the same category in that We are told to love one another, yet those traits are not pleasing to the Master who told Us to do that loving.…It would seem God was willing to chalk Us off. The Christ steps in and vouches for Us because He knows that with Hi help, We can be righteous. And We can, if We were to choose that. But We don’t; as a whole, We are a great disappointment. We are and have been proving God correct, We are worthless sinners that will not change. Our only hope is with the Christ. With out Him inside Us We can not do it.As Matthew 13:24 indicates, “But the one who endures to the end, he will be saved.”Those who endure to the end are part of the “the one.” The Christ inside You, leading You is the only chance You have and to use that chance wisely with out any doubt and to succeed is to be part of “the one.” We all are able to become part of the one.The ability to not support killing /murdering is only possible through the Christ and He will confirm it and take You to additional confirmations.On the thread, Pot Draws More Votes Than Commissioners http://cannabisnews.com/news/22/thread22371.shtml - Hope comments to whig’s comment in comment #44, “””"... we are all equally God in my own opinion." Then Bush and Cheney are, too. “””- But what is said on the very last page of the Bible clarifies most all of scripture and shows Bush and Cheney may not receive what “the one” receives. The exception is that if Bush and Cheney choose, they can relate from one obedience to extend to others, if again they choose. There are many doors… gates… rooms.Revelation 22 (New American Standard Bible) points out: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelations%2022;&version=49; 11"Let the one who does wrong, still do wrong; and the one who is filthy, still be filthy; and let the one who is righteous, still practice righteousness; and the one who is holy, still keep himself holy." 12"Behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to render to every man according to what he has done. … …14Blessed are those who wash their robes, so that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter by the gates into the city. 15Outside are the dogs and the sorcerers and the immoral persons and the murderers and the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices lying. … (consider that if what is in You is good / obedient / loving etc… then what is evil is “Outside.”)…19and if anyone takes away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God will take away his part from the tree of life and from the holy city, which are written in this book.” -What it indicates is those who support, enable or partake in cannabis / hemp prohibition or murder / killing are taking away from the words of this (The Bible) prophecy. From what the owner’s manual says, that is the Bible; Bush and Cheney don’t have a part from the tree of life and from the holy city,…And, what speaks to Me inside, that is part of “the one” indicates the tree of life is cannabis / hemp. Revelations 2:7, http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelations%202;&version=49; indicates “He, who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches To him who overcomes, I will grant to eat of the tree of life which is in the Paradise of God.”Everything thing the Bible says about the tree of life together indicates it plays an important part of reality.Take what We know about cannabis and compare it to what the Bible says about the tree of life and We feel parallels that ring true to Us when We obey and in essence wash Our robes, overcomes, etc. but to those who have chosen to disobey, or takes away from the words of the prophecy of the Bible, they do not recognize it.All this simultaneously seems to be confirmed to Me inside Me by a higherness that exists as reality and is written about before I have noticed.For what I receive, it seems odd to request a card, to register or be put on a data base to use what someone considers the devil weed; so to satisfy their dubious needs.I Am concerned about The Ecologician's wishes and needs. His needs are mine and will not change, when the minds of a change of judges might.Who Am I?It is who I am.More important; who are You?The Green Collar Worker [ Post Comment ] Comment #28 posted by FoM on November 12, 2006 at 19:16:41 PT Democrats to Press Bush to Reduce Troops in Iraq By Sheryl Gay Stolberg and Mark Mazzetti ~ The New York TimesPublished: November 12, 2006 WASHINGTON: Leading Senate Democrats vowed Sunday to use their new majority in Congress to press for troop reductions in Iraq within a matter of months, stepping up pressure on the administration just as President Bush is to be interviewed by a bipartisan panel examining future strategy for the war.The Democrats - the incoming majority leader, Senator Harry Reid; the incoming Armed Services Committee chairman, Senator Carl Levin; and the incoming Foreign Relations Committee chairman, Senator Joseph R. Biden Jr. - said a phased redeployment of troops would be their top priority when the new Congress convenes in January, even before investigating the conduct of the war.Complete Article: http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/11/13/america/web.1113military.php [ Post Comment ] Comment #27 posted by FoM on November 12, 2006 at 19:13:37 PT Democrats To Press for Phased Withdrawal from Iraq Good news!November 12, 2006 WASHINGTON -- Democrats poised to take control of Congress said Sunday that they would press to begin a phased U.S. military withdrawal from Iraq within four to six months, part of an agenda aimed at overhauling key aspects of U.S. policy in the Middle East.Complete Article: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-fg-usiraq13nov13,0,6032008.story [ Post Comment ] Comment #26 posted by Dankhank on November 12, 2006 at 18:44:12 PT Cindy and Maccacacocky .... I'm with Cindy 100%The idea that Bush could skate out of his responsibility is poisonous to the health of this nation.as was the guy who will always remain nameless in my mind save for the appellation of Senator Maccaca would be the same ...Thanks Hope ...I plan to send the link to Senator Maccaca as soon as I can stop my gag reflex ... [ Post Comment ] Comment #25 posted by FoM on November 12, 2006 at 18:35:07 PT Toker00 Cindy Sheehan is a woman on a mission. She will be remembered in history. [ Post Comment ] Comment #24 posted by Hope on November 12, 2006 at 18:22:07 PT Congratulations, Dankhank! Made up a word and actually got it in the dictionary.Cool! [ Post Comment ] Comment #23 posted by Toker00 on November 12, 2006 at 17:43:42 PT Cindy Sheehan's Open Letter To George Bush. *November 10, 2006 at 14:04:28*Cindy Sheehan: Another Open Letter to George *by Cindy Sheehan *http://www.opednews .comFirst of all, I would have given anything to be a fly on the wall on November 8th, when we all knew fairly early that the Democrats had taken back the House of Representatives. I would also have loved to be in the room when Senator George Allen conceded and the Senate was lost. I hope you realize that your demented policies and miserably failed leadership style is responsible for the thumping that your party took this week. Even though I couldn't be a secret first hand witness to your political demise, it was good to be in front of your soon-to-be-vacated premises in DC.On November 4th, 2004, after you stole yet another election, I wrote an open letter to you promising that I would use every last ounce of strength that I had to see you held accountable for the death of my son and for all of the gratuitous bloodshed that you have foisted on humanity since you have been president.As committed as I am to bringing the troops home, I am as much committed to seeing you investigated, impeached, ejected from office, and imprisoned in the same cell with Saddam for crimes against humanity. After all, you yourself, have said over and over again that the troops aren't leaving Iraq alone while you are in office...so get out of office so our young people can come home. A recent MSNBC poll said that 86% of their viewers are in favor of putting you on trial, George. 86% is exactly the same percentage of Iraqis who want our troops to leave their Bush-torn country.Americans (you remember us, don't you?), turned out in huge numbers the other day to hold you accountable. You had yourself another accountability moment there, and you lost, didn't you? We Americans did not vote to retain the Republican status quo of murder, mayhem, and oppression. We voted to change politics as usual in this country. We voted against you and your wars of terror. We voted against you and your spies. We voted against you and your torturers. We voted against you and your definition of freedom as something that can be spread by bombing a country into oblivion. We voted against you and your definition of peace as something that can be spread by violence. We voted against you and your definition of security while your state sanctioned terrorism is creating more terrorists. We voted against you and your most atrocious and abominable exploitation of the right to life to continue your genocidal policies in Iraq.We the people have a mandate for change. If you think that we are going to squander our mandate and permit you to slide away into obscurity in Crawford, as a footnote as the worst president in US history, to lick your wounded pride and count your stacks of ill-gotten gains, you are wrong. You are not escaping punishment as other war criminal presidents have in our past. No matter if you and Rep. Pelosi become best buddies and take tea regularly in the oval office, we the people with our mandate are not going to allow you to get off scott-free.After the 110th Democratic Congress is sworn in, we the people with all the power, will be out in force in the halls and offices of our elected officials to make sure that our mandate for change is carried out. Gone are the days when we will permit our elected officials to bow before the special interests and allow the war machine to run our country. Here are the days where we the people with the mandate will enforce our mandate.We are also going to enforce our mandate for change to insure that you do not invade another country, in our names, that is no threat to the USA. We will not allow any more war for the war profiteers.George, you and your buddy, Karl, frightened us into thinking that we needed you to protect us. We are not afraid anymore, George, but you should be very afraid. A sleeping giant has been awakened and we are starving for justice and peace. I hope your successors remember who employs them and who has the real power in the country, because you forgot and it is going to cost you your job and your nice life in Central Texas, or Paraguay...wherever you thought you were going to retire in infamy to.George, you said that you have been to rodeos before. I am not so sure what you meant. A rodeo is filled with real cowboys and bucking broncos. You are a fake cowboy who is about to be thrown from the horse that you have been illegitimately and incompetently riding for almost six years now. Enjoy the rest of the ride while you can, George. Pad your seat, things are going to get even bumpier for you!In Peace and Hope,Cindy SheehanCindy Sheehan is the mother of Spc. Casey Austin Sheehan, who was KIA in Iraq on 04/04/04. She is a co-founder and President of Gold Star Families for Peace and the author of two books: Not One More Mother's Child and Dear President Bush. She is currently on Day 12 of the Troops Home Fast.She ain't lettin' up, why should we?Toke. [ Post Comment ] Comment #22 posted by dankhank on November 12, 2006 at 15:05:13 PT Maccacacocky submitted to Urban Dictionary two days ago and accepted.Google hasn't found it, yet so go to this link ...http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=maccacacocky&defid=0wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooolike I said ... you heard it first, here, kiddies ....Use it often ...:-) [ Post Comment ] Comment #21 posted by Hope on November 12, 2006 at 14:23:49 PT Picked this link up over at Pete's. Worthy read. "I'm sick and tired of begging my fellow citizens to not throw me in jail..."http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle_blog/2006/nov/10/im_sick_and_tired_of_begging_my_ [ Post Comment ] Comment #20 posted by mayan on November 12, 2006 at 14:21:20 PT Off Topic It seems that Howard Dean is going to help Tony Blair's party in their mid-terms...Labour drafts in US election architect for 'our midterms': http://politics.guardian.co.uk/labour/story/0,,1945410,00.htmlIf Dean is anti-war then what is he doing??? Tony Blair is a war criminal. If it isn't ovious yet that the two American political parties are one then it never will be. THE WAY OUT...Lifting the Fog on 9/11: Experts Present Scientific Evidence at UC Berkeley: http://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2006/11/12/18329055.php [ Post Comment ] Comment #19 posted by Hope on November 12, 2006 at 14:09:54 PT Lol! Celaya Good stuff requires some risk occasionally. I hope it goes well for you.Life is a risk, is it not? [ Post Comment ] Comment #18 posted by Celaya on November 12, 2006 at 14:07:11 PT Hope Thanks! I feel good when they are printed too. I know few people read newspapers anymore, but I think there are still enough to make a difference.I'm facing the same risky spinach situation. I love spinach! Substituting it for lettuce means the difference between great nutrition and no nutrition. Plus, I like the taste.I just bought my first package in a long time yesterday. It's in the fridge, calling me.... I know the risk, but I've just got to have my spinach!!!"I'm strong to the finish, 'cause I eat my spinach!" [ Post Comment ] Comment #17 posted by Hope on November 12, 2006 at 13:48:26 PT Celaya Wonderful...very sound reasoning in the letter you sent there. I'm thankful you sent it and I'm thankful they printed it.Whoo Hoo! Way to go, Celaya. Thank you! [ Post Comment ] Comment #16 posted by FoM on November 12, 2006 at 13:44:51 PT Hope That's good. LOL! I like spinach but I haven't had any for years. [ Post Comment ] Comment #15 posted by Hope on November 12, 2006 at 13:37:54 PT I've been clean. Spinach free for a while now.Some would say I'm "weak" for taking it up again. Actually, I feel brave and strong for using it again. [ Post Comment ] Comment #14 posted by Hope on November 12, 2006 at 13:35:33 PT The "evil weed" today might be spinach. I feel like a big risk taker eating and serving spinach today...which I haven't in a long time.It feels so risky. Who'd have thought that one day indulging in spinach use might be a risky proposition.I like it, though. I know not everyone likes spinach...that's their right. But I like it...so I'm re-entering the murky area of spinach consumption again. Feels risky. It sure tastes good, though.:0) [ Post Comment ] Comment #13 posted by Celaya on November 12, 2006 at 12:34:58 PT FoM Sometimes, I just have to! 8^) [ Post Comment ] Comment #12 posted by Celaya on November 12, 2006 at 12:33:48 PT Fred Gardner Calls Marijuana The "Anti-Drug". ..... and backs it up exhaustively!(Scroll down past contribution appeal.) Marijuana - The Anti-Drug [ Post Comment ] Comment #11 posted by FoM on November 12, 2006 at 12:32:50 PT Celaya You're very welcome and thank you for writing to the paper. [ Post Comment ] Comment #10 posted by Celaya on November 12, 2006 at 12:25:43 PT FoM Thanks a lot! [ Post Comment ] Comment #9 posted by FoM on November 12, 2006 at 12:02:50 PT Celaya I went ahead and set it up and sent it to Mapinc. If you sent it too it doesn't matter so this way it's covered. [ Post Comment ] Comment #8 posted by FoM on November 12, 2006 at 11:58:14 PT Celaya Should I send it in for you? [ Post Comment ] Comment #7 posted by Celaya on November 12, 2006 at 11:45:23 PT FoM It's the one titled, "Marijuana measure and kids"I'll try and send it to MAP. Sometimes they list them, and some times they don't. Maybe there's something I'm not doing right.TruthI've told my kids the truth and everyone is the happier (and safer) for it.Imagine how many lives would be saved (from direct health effects, traffic accidents, and alcohol fueled violence) if everyone would smoke pot instead of drinking alcohol!The tide is turning! [ Post Comment ] Comment #6 posted by FoM on November 12, 2006 at 11:36:12 PT Celaya I don't know which one your letters is and maybe you don't want the public to know but have you sent it into Mapinc. to be published? I hope you do. [ Post Comment ] Comment #5 posted by Truth on November 12, 2006 at 11:33:46 PT Celaya Nice letter. Thanks! My son lives in Santa Cruz. I'd much rather he smoke a joint then do a shot. One's poison, one's not. [ Post Comment ] Comment #4 posted by Celaya on November 12, 2006 at 11:28:05 PT The Santa Cruz Sentinel.... ....printed my letter!Check it out. Letters - Santa Cruz Sentinel [ Post Comment ] Comment #3 posted by Max Flowers on November 12, 2006 at 10:28:48 PT Thanks Sam That is an excellent breakdown of the Hinchey Amendment facts. Marc Emery wrote that? Holy cow, if so, he's better than I thought. [ Post Comment ] Comment #2 posted by OverwhelmSam on November 12, 2006 at 08:15:44 PT Great Analysis of the New Congress From Cannabis Culture: "The tally in the last Congress was 259 AGAINST to 163 FOR on the Hinchey Amendment. Right now, in the 110th Congress, we have 221 AGAINST vs. 178 FOR (including new REPS with the asterisk) if all other US REPS remain consistant with the June 15, 2006 vote. However, that leaves a 43 vote difference (down from a 96 vote difference) that we must overcome. We need to convince 22 MORE US REPS to come on board. Considering 23 new US REPS have not indicated where they stand on Hinchey Amendment, there is a great deal of hope here. There are 434 voting members of the House with Speaker-elect Nancy Pelosi breaking ties. Speaker Pelosi supports the Hinchey Amendment. There were thirteen US REPS that missed the Hinchey Amendment vote in 2006."http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/4843.html [ Post Comment ] Comment #1 posted by FoM on November 12, 2006 at 07:37:28 PT Snipped Source Article: Sacramento Bee Another View: Smokescreen of Medical Pot Clouds View of The Dangers***By Gordon D. Taylor - Special to the Bee Sunday, November 12, 2006Pro-pot advocates often spread misinformation on the subject of so-called "medical marijuana." It's important to show the other side of the issue.In the past 10 years, California has seen a surge of organized crime groups that have moved into the marijuana industry in a big way. Heavily armed drug cartels have made a multibillion-dollar business of going into our public lands and clear-cutting our pristine forests so they can cultivate enormous marijuana crops. Sophisticated criminal syndicates are buying homes in the Sacramento region and creating indoor marijuana factories in the midst of our family-oriented neighborhoods.A rogue "pot club" industry has also developed throughout the state. Over the past two years, the DEA has participated in six enforcement actions against pot clubs operating in the Central Valley and inland Northern California. Shockingly, three of the six pot store owners were convicted felons, each of whom was armed with a handgun during the course of the investigations.The largest of the six pot clubs sold marijuana to an astounding 400 people a day. Owned by two 26-year-old men, this Modesto pot club reported selling more than $3.4 million in marijuana within a six-month period. This pot club was going so well that the owners were paying their security guards $125 to $150 an hour.Complete Article: http://www.sacbee.com/110/story/75076.html [ Post Comment ] Post Comment