Marijuana Possession: Arrest Statistics at Issue 

Marijuana Possession: Arrest Statistics at Issue 
Posted by CN Staff on September 23, 2006 at 08:26:34 PT
By Ed Vogel, Review-Journal Capital Bureau
Source: Las Vegas Review-Journal
Carson City --  Despite official records that show nearly 5,000 people were arrested in Nevada on marijuana possession charges last year, Las Vegas and Reno police say their departments give tickets to pot smokers and rarely book offenders in jail if their only offense is using the illegal drug.Las Vegas police Detective Todd Raybuck said this week that FBI crime reporting rules require police departments to list the citations they hand out for marijuana possession as arrests when they compile statistics.
Marijuana Arrests For Year 2005: Global_WarmingSource: Las Vegas Review-Journal (NV)Author: Ed Vogel, Review-Journal Capital BureauPublished: September 23, 2006Copyright: 2006 Las Vegas Review-JournalContact: letters reviewjournal.comWebsite: http://www.reviewjournal.comRelated Articles & Web Site:Regulate and Control Marijuana Redux - Las Vegas Sun Screens - Las Vegas City Life Ballot Initiative: Internal Poll Finds Support
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Comment #36 posted by Had Enough on September 25, 2006 at 13:37:09 PT
Corrections Corporation of America
Jail memo prepares officers for auditBy JONATHAN ABEL
Published September 25, 2006
BROOKSVILLE - When the American Correctional Association audits the Hernando County Jail next month, the corrections officers will be ready.Jail administrators recently passed out an eight-page memo with 85 sample questions and answers that might come up during the audit.Q: How frequently do you see a Warden, Assistant Warden, or Chief?A: Our management staff make daily rounds and inspections.*************Q: When did you last participate in a Fire Drill?A: Provide an approximate date that you last participated in a drill.*************Q: Where are your Post Orders? When did you review them last? Did you sign them? May I see them?A: My Post Order is kept at ____________. I review them every day. I sign them daily. Here they are.*************Jail warden Don Stewart said the list of questions and answers is a standard tool for such evaluations."If you don't prepare people to know what to expect in the context of a major accreditation audit, you're not doing your job," he said Friday. "You'll never find anyone that would imply that in any fashion they were told not to tell the truth."The questions and answers run the range from How many counts do you perform per shift? to How often does a segregation inmate get to shower? and Are body cavity searches conducted?There are also intricate questions and responses about how guards can get keys from supervisors and how guards are involved in jail health care decisions.Most of the sample answers also refer guards to citations from the employee handbook.Stewart said that providing questions and answers was part of educating a young staff on what would be expected of them."It's not like they're going to sit down and take a written exam," he said. "If you're going to try to put this in the context of an examination in school, they're not anywhere near the same things."The Citrus County Detention Facility, which like Hernando is run by Corrections Corporation of America, distributed a similar memo before its audit in April."It's pretty common, and I've done it in most facilities that I've ever been in," said Chris Howard, assistant warden at the Citrus jail. "It's an excellent opportunity just to see how your staff are doing."But other publicly run jails in the region don't prepare for the audit this way.more...
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Comment #35 posted by FoM on September 25, 2006 at 06:58:59 PT
I hope you are right. I really want to be wrong about Nevada but it is a drinking and gambling state and marijuana won't make people drink and gamble and that's how they make money. Marijuana might make people use a little more sense with their money and I don't think the casinos would want that.
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Comment #34 posted by mayan on September 25, 2006 at 02:43:47 PT
Nevada AND Colordo will win. The right of consenting adults to consume cannabis without penalty is an issue which transcends political parties. The states should decide and both of those states are big on state's rights. I hope Tvert and Levine can both take that argument to the masses effectively.
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Comment #33 posted by ekim on September 24, 2006 at 20:30:53 PT
anyone happen to see the History Ch last WED
from 8-9 it was on Renewables for energy. so as has been posted here many many times -- cellulose ethanol is going to be here soon. the History story goes to Golden CO to talk to the lab researchers about the new tech to delvelop ethanol from cellulose. Seems that Switchgrass a fast going prennial weed will make a whopping 1,150 gals per acre. what was not revealed by the lab guys was how many tones a acre are they getting off the switchgrass. I hope Jack Herer will please write a peice on this subject as to the tonnage of Hemp seems that i have read that it gets from 3-6 per acre. I feel that would help Mason and prop 44 with the just released figures on 98 percent of all Cannabis killed was Hemp that has grown here for years without weed killers.By the way it was mentioned that the industral enzymes will cost 25 cents per gal to make. the new gm green cars and trucks are all big models because of tax breaks -- much savings in fuel can be acheived by ethanol and electric as in hybrids.a neat pic of clouds over at libbys site
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Comment #32 posted by whig on September 24, 2006 at 11:40:17 PT
Put this in your pipe, and smoke it
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Comment #31 posted by global_warming on September 24, 2006 at 10:54:37 PT
Your Place, I can look into the NightSee Adventures Beyond the StarsBeyond My Mind and Soul
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Comment #30 posted by global_warming on September 24, 2006 at 10:46:05 PT
It is free
Come and GatherReceive Fire and Your Place
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Comment #29 posted by global_warming on September 24, 2006 at 10:15:26 PT
Is there nothing left
But whores and beggars?
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Comment #28 posted by global_warming on September 24, 2006 at 09:38:12 PT
re: Cannabis and Prison
"Levine said he has been waiting for Young to retract his comments about the marijuana arrest statistics."We are still waiting," he said. "They say no one is sitting in jail and we have filed a bunch of requests for information, but they won't tell us."No one is sitting in jail for possessing or using Cannabis?Repeal the prohibition of Cannabis, repeal illegitimate laws that have been cast in the minds of frightened people of medieval mentalities, good science and trust your senses, Cannabis has never been linked with death, in spite of all the discussion.Bring forth good science, so that good laws may be respected, and surely goodness and understanding will follow you, Forever.
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Comment #27 posted by Had Enough on September 24, 2006 at 08:46:45 PT
Backfire re:25
Backfire re:25Wouldn’t it be something with all this debate, and with a few of their well polished statistics brought to light, this ends up with their budget getting reviewed, citations separated from arrests, and their budget cut because of improper information submitted.I think Neil Levine & Co. might be thinkin’ along these lines too. I hope.If this happens, I wonder how his next run for ‘Sheriff of Clark County’ will go.
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Comment #26 posted by FoM on September 24, 2006 at 08:36:07 PT
Off Topic: Who is Leading in the Polls? my 2 cents. I don't think Nevada will pass again because a Republican is leading but maybe in Colorado we might win because the Democrat is leading for governor.
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Comment #25 posted by John Tyler on September 24, 2006 at 08:16:40 PT
It's about the money
The cops here are talking out of both sides of their mouths. They are saying we don’t need a change in the law because we really don’t really arrest anybody anyway. So it is no big deal right? They are just given a citation (which is a criminal charge. Who wants a criminal charge? I certainly don’t. They may have to sit though a boring, lying anti drug tirade too.) and fined $600. Lets run that past again… a misdemeanor charge and a $600 fine times 4,962 for the past year alone. Why that is $2,977,200 in fines not to mention court costs. (There are always court costs. Court costs are where the courts make their money.) No wonder they don’t want to change the cannabis laws. It’s about the money and they are not going to give it up easily. Also it looks like they are skewing their statistics by calling a citation an “arrest”. It seems to me that if one aspect of data collection for some system is erroneous then none of the information produced can be deemed reliable. But errors don’t matter, these are just numbers to base next years budget on. Higher arrest numbers (correct or not) bigger budget. In the bureaucracy, bigger budgets good, smaller budgets bad.
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Comment #24 posted by FoM on September 24, 2006 at 07:59:11 PT
Had Enough
I just posted an article from The New York Times about John Lennon, Nixon and the FBI. 1971 was 35 years ago and we are still fighting the Republicans about Marijuana because it is more them then any other party in my opinion. I don't count Clinton in this because I always thought he wanted to be a Republican and his friendship with Bush Sr. confirms that to me.
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Comment #23 posted by Had Enough on September 24, 2006 at 07:50:15 PT
"Straight Face Test"
"Nobody is going to prison. I disagree with those numbers," said Young, who admitted he tried marijuana a couple of times as a young man."“Nobody is going to prison”. I would like to see him have this conversation with runruff.and.…… he admits to smoking a little herb in his past. Well here is proof smoking pot does not turn you in to a crazed Frankenstein chasing heroin addict, deviate, burglar, child molester, etc…. Right from a law enforcement officer, the high sheriff of Clark County himself… Does he think he should he be issued a ticket?Should he be denied employment?Should he be Pee Tested?
 *****and a good morning to you too, FoM.
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Comment #22 posted by FoM on September 24, 2006 at 07:12:35 PT
Mornin' Folks: Check Out The Video from
John Lennon Performs "John Sinclair"John Lennon's performance of "John Sinclair" was previously unreleased and was filmed at the "Free John Now Rally" in Ann Arbor, Michigan, in 1971, as featured on the soundtrack to "The U.S. vs. John Lennon."
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Comment #21 posted by whig on September 24, 2006 at 01:11:54 PT
Mars attacks!
I think this is a pretty good picture. take it as an omen?
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Comment #20 posted by lombar on September 23, 2006 at 23:19:07 PT
$10 billion and $12 billion annually 
The war on marijuana is expensiveIT'S times like these that I wish I had been alive when prohibition was coming to an end in America.I'd like to know if the folks who believed that the attempt to eradicate alcohol in America was not working were labeled immoral drunks. {clipped}
Dave Peyton: The war on marijuana is expensive
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Comment #19 posted by whig on September 23, 2006 at 22:01:40 PT
Watch this space...
Lindsay Beyerstein is doing a takedown on Mel Sembler and will be talking more about the Drug Free America Foundation, it appears:
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Comment #18 posted by ekim on September 23, 2006 at 20:06:05 PT
see a Leap event near you
Sep 24 06 The San Diego Association for Rational Inquiry 06:00 PM Jim Gray San Diego California USA
 The San Diego Association for Rational Inquiry (SDARI) will welcome LEAP Speaker Judge Jim Gray for a presentation about the failure of America's racially biased and futile war on drugs. This event is open to the public. SDARI requests a $5 donation but no one is turned away. The meetings start at 7pm, with a social hour at 6pm. Attendees are invited to BYO-Supper. Sep 24 06 Alternative Granola WMWM Talk Radio 07:00 PM Jack Cole Salem MA USA
 Timothy Cullinane. Host of Alternative Granola WMWM Talk Radio, 91.7FM from Salem State College, will discuss the failed US drug policy for an hour with executive director Jack Cole.
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Comment #17 posted by Hope on September 23, 2006 at 18:54:56 PT
Sounds like fraud to me, too.
And I bet those figures turn into money somewhere at some point for someone.
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Comment #16 posted by Sinsemilla Jones on September 23, 2006 at 17:31:19 PT
Sounds like fraud to me....
"We are told that citations should be considered arrests," Raybuck said.Specifically, conspiracy to defraud the federal government through deliberate misreporting of the facts.I'd be quite surprised if the number of drug "arrests" did not affect the amount of money Nevada receives from the Feds, in some form or fashion.And just who is telling them to do this?ONDCP and the DEA both use these apparently falsified arrest numbers to justify their budgets to Congress.If Raybuck is telling the truth, there needs to be an investigation into who is telling the lie.
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Comment #15 posted by dongenero on September 23, 2006 at 17:26:00 PT
take the laws off the books?
What the heck......if they aren't enforcing the marijuana laws anyway, then what's the big stink over taking those laws off the books?There is no point in having unused laws in the books. It could only lead to confusion.
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Comment #14 posted by Hope on September 23, 2006 at 15:59:32 PT
I bet you're right. So right.
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Comment #13 posted by observer on September 23, 2006 at 14:08:50 PT
The Straight Face Test
Clark County Sheriff Bill Young during which he questions whether 4,962 Nevadans were arrested on marijuana possession: "Nobody is going to prison..."Then, if nobody is going to prison for pot, what's the problem with making the law match this supposed reality? Of course, the Goodly Officer knoweth right well that plenty of people are going to prison for pot, or he wouldn't have bothered oping his yap to lie on the topic. Sheriff Bill Young's assertion that nobody is going to prison for pot doesn't pass the straight face test. 
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Comment #12 posted by whig on September 23, 2006 at 13:40:15 PT
I've been very happy with the dispensaries here in Oakland and Berkeley, though I haven't been to many of them. There are typically a couple strains available, you never really know what it will be. There isn't an operation where they are both growing and supplying, as I understand it there are growers who help them and they have pretty good standards about what they will accept.I've heard there are also some places in San Francisco which have more of a specialty selection, which can be particularly good if you have a condition that responds best to a very specific strain.
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Comment #11 posted by The GCW on September 23, 2006 at 13:38:05 PT
No one is jailed?
What about a 2nd or 3rd time???What about someone on probation or perole?People don't even want a ticket or citation!The message is: LEAVE CANNABIS USERS ALONE!End of story.Servants go away.Bully, stop taking My lunch money.
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Comment #10 posted by museman on September 23, 2006 at 12:44:05 PT
side topic sort of
"Nevada's marijuana group wants the state Legislature to set up a system where marijuana would be grown on regulated farms, taxed and sold in licensed stores.By providing marijuana through a state-regulated system, the Committee to Regulate & Control Marijuana theorizes people no longer would have to buy the drug from the criminal element. With fewer drug dealers around, the organization argues youths would have less access to the drug."For many years this 'argument' for legalizing the herb has upset me, because I envisioned government-controlled swag dispensories selling pre-rolled joints made by Phillip Morris, while quality herb grown by experienced growers would still remain 'illegal.'However in light of recent local events, I am begining to change my mind. As a medicinal use of cannabis, and a user most of my life, I have come to expect a certain quality of bud- before it ever enters my pipe. For many years I was able to grow most of my own (without selling for profit) and I got used to 'good' herb.I haven't been able to do that for some years, because now, like so many I am in a 'neighborhood' surrounded by houses and people, instead of the 'wide open spaces' I had grown used to, and can't grow much except an 8-foot square veggie garden. Therefore I am at the mercy of those who can grow.For some reason I can only think of as 'greed' the local market has been totally inundated with bunk. In the past month I have spent over a hundred dollars on s**t that tastes like dirt and gives one whopper of a headache - from 4 'different' sources. They say "Oh yeah man this is 'Elvis'", or 'White Widow', or 'Train Wreck'. Then when you sample the product and realize it's bunk, they laugh and say "No returns man."Makes me wonder where the integrity went. So if these wannabe growers continue to dominate the scene, maybe a 'storefront' dispensary would have a better guarantee of quality. I now have to travel to another town to get my herbs, because the local is all trash.
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Comment #9 posted by mayan on September 23, 2006 at 11:58:34 PT
The New Poll?
Why doesn't this article mention the new poll conducted by Goodwin Simon Victoria Research that uses the actual wording of the Nevada initiative? 49 percent said they would vote yes on the question and 43 percent said no. THE WAY OUT IS THE WAY IN...9/11 Lecture to Bring BBC to Madison? Should the Truth be Revealed or Concealed? David Ray Griffin Copenhagen Lecture (video): presents Project Censored: Complicity in 9/11 (video): Night Live Skit Highlights Pre-9/11 Insider Trading: About a Revolution:
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Comment #8 posted by Hope on September 23, 2006 at 11:14:50 PT
Cooperating with your assailants....yeah..
Stay cool. But I have to admit...that guy keeping on smoking while they were being arrested or cited...was cold cool.
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Comment #7 posted by Happyplant on September 23, 2006 at 11:09:00 PT
Evans said the best way for a minor marijuana smoker to avoid jail is simply cooperate with police when he or she is caught with the drug. Cooperation virtually is a guarantee they will be given a ticket and not go to jail, he said.Just another way of saying, "Narc on your friends and we'll go easy on you."
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Comment #6 posted by global_warming on September 23, 2006 at 10:31:24 PT
from here to you
Colorado, Nevada, and every United State, Come Forth, and do replyIt is over, it is timeTo receive justiceHealing and ComfortCannabis Shall Forever Remain FreeFree as in this American ConstitutionFree as in FreedomFree as in Freedom to Pursue your pathInto this Infinite Journey
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Comment #5 posted by global_warming on September 23, 2006 at 10:20:24 PT
re: no matter how many have to suffer
It is coming to endCannabis ProhibitionThe Dea and the fat bellied voters of this Folly
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Comment #4 posted by Celaya on September 23, 2006 at 09:59:41 PT
"Nothing to look at here folks. Move along!"
I get incensed every time I hear police spokespersons pooh-pooh their persecution of marijuana consumers by saying people rarely go to jail for it, or they don't focus on marijuana consumers.If this is true, WHY do they fight so hard against marijuana legalization? Especially when police also like to say they don't make the laws, they just enforce them.Just more lying by people protecting their golden goose - no matter how many have to suffer. -- 800,000 EVERY YEAR
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Comment #3 posted by global_warming on September 23, 2006 at 09:59:00 PT
To those Dea Folks
While you are leaving, please take that smirking chimp with you and restore America to its place in this world.
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Comment #2 posted by global_warming on September 23, 2006 at 09:52:27 PT
Where is the Science
People have been smoking Cannabis for some Five Thousand Years, and not one "death", those folks who are working for the agencey called DEA, should start looking for a new job, how can they continue to lock up human beings, whose only crime is survival, pain management, and good members of the tax paying establishment, lest I forget, voters.
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Comment #1 posted by global_warming on September 23, 2006 at 09:35:26 PT
bunch of crap
Smoking Cannabis is going to get you in trouble, pretty much everywhere on this planet.A full cup of Vodka, and you can gracefully toast, to the World.
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