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  Strict Guidelines Needed for Medical Pot

Posted by CN Staff on September 01, 2006 at 06:57:41 PT
By Jim Garvey 
Source: Times-Standard 

California -- When I was a young man growing up in Southern California 50-some odd years ago, smoking marijuana or “Mary Jane” could wind you up in state prison for a term of five years with no questions asked because it was a felony. It was called “dope,” and for good reason: Only dopes smoked it and you got really dopey after smoking it. Today the approach to marijuana is certainly a lot different from when I was a teenager, and I wonder at the wisdom of such a decision.
Not being of the scientific community, but having spent over 20 years in active service in the law enforcement community, I believe I can speak with a certain amount of expertise. It is my opinion, and that of a lot of my colleagues across this country, that the constant use of marijuana tends to lead an individual towards more deadly and harder drugs. And I would venture to voice the opinion that those who use marijuana on a constant basis probably risk the chance of altering their DNA genes over a given period of time. For like the person who abuses alcohol, they have a greater chance of developing into an alcoholic than those who drink moderately and they also run the risk of altering their DNA genes. That fact was proven beyond any doubt by a group of scientists in Sweden in the late 1950s, by isolating the gene from alcoholics and applying that study to children born of those alcoholics over a 20-year period. Those children born of alcoholics almost to the person developed a problem with alcohol, as opposed to those children born of parents who only drank on occasion or didn't drink at all. They also went on to say, “that those persons of Nordic ancestry are more likely to develop a problem with alcohol as opposed to those who come out of Central Europe, Middle East or the Far East.” For those who abuse any substance, the body tends to develop immunity to that substance and a greater amount is needed to achieve that certain plateau of whatever it is. Then that person remains in a constant altered state of mind. So far, the scientific community has not brought forth any evidence with regards to the benefits of smoking marijuana to ease certain pains within the body. I am somewhat skeptical about that evidence when persons such as Montel Williams (talk show host) have come forward and spoken out about the benefit he has received by smoking marijuana to relieve his pain from Parkinson's disease. This is a person of impeccable character having served as an officer in the United States Navy and having been discharged from active service from an injury he received on duty. I honestly believe that this government should take a serious look into this situation, before passing judgment. However, I am not in favor of your downtown neighborhood pot shop open to anyone with a bad back problem. Nor am I in favor of having the local doctor dispense this cannabis to anyone and everyone who comes into his or her practice. There must be a strict control over this entire operation and it must be under government control and not left up to the states. For if you are an individual who has a great deal of pain and needs to have a certain number of marijuana cigarettes and you live in Hayfork, just like you would need a doctor's prescription for an illness, you need to go to your local pharmacy to get your prescription or marijuana medication and you would probably have to travel to Fortuna or Eureka to a regular pharmacy that has met government standards for dispensing this medication. Also, you in person with your government I.D. must be the only person to receive this medication. Jane Doe or John Doe can't run into the pharmacy and pick up your private stash of marijuana. There must be strict guidelines governing this operation from top to bottom, and severe penalties for those who break these rules and regulations, and that includes those in the medical profession. Jim Garvey, a former member of the grand jury, lives in Rio Dell. Opinions expressed in My Word pieces do not necessarily reflect the editorial viewpoint of the Times-Standard. Source: Times-Standard (Eureka, CA)Author: Jim GarveyPublished: September, 01, 2006Copyright: 2006 MediaNews Group, Inc. Contact: editor times-standard.comWebsite: http://www.times-standard.com/CannabisNews Medical Marijuana Archiveshttp://cannabisnews.com/news/list/medical.shtml

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Comment #84 posted by Hope on September 02, 2006 at 18:05:37 PT
Sent it to Montel Show
Just told them I thought they should be interested in this opinion piece since it mentioned Mr. Williams.http://www.times-standard.com/opinion/ci_4272216and copied and pasted the article along with it's url (above) at the newspaper to the e-mail for them.You can't just send an e-mail...you have to register with them.
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Comment #83 posted by Hope on September 02, 2006 at 17:32:00 PT
Thanks, Whig.
Canaveral is the Spanish word for canebrake? I definitely know several things more now than I did before yesterday evening! Just waiting now for that cross word puzzle that calls for a canebrake.Don't know why I even wonder about anything before checking with Wikipedia.
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Comment #82 posted by whig on September 02, 2006 at 17:01:32 PT
Canebrake
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canebrake
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Comment #81 posted by RevRayGreen on September 02, 2006 at 11:04:33 PT:
Hope
Please put in a good word for me, I've been campaigning for his visit to Iowa to do a show here.peace.........
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Comment #80 posted by global_warming on September 02, 2006 at 10:57:06 PT
can you consider
your place in the world?There are "too" many good people, good human beingson that axis of evil map is the map wrong?Follow the captain?In the meantime
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Comment #79 posted by global_warming on September 02, 2006 at 10:38:13 PT
Look at Your Hand
Is it a hand wrapped tightly with anger?Is it a hand that can reach out and "touch with gentleness?We are all' born in Eternity
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Comment #78 posted by global_warming on September 02, 2006 at 10:27:15 PT
Tell Me Again
Dopey, doper, scratching for some place on this planet,Ah, you do not believe we the people are on the eve of destruction.Keep sending in your donationsTo buy expensive ointments
to healthe bloody wounds of that 'crossYou can salute to your graveBe listed as mulch in filthy gravesDirt is dirt and mulch is mulchOpen your mindsReceiveTwinkleThe Green WorldReceive Your PlaceCannabis is the Last Friut From The Garden of EdenLook at your Hand
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Comment #77 posted by Hope on September 02, 2006 at 10:18:05 PT
RevRayGreen  Comment 70
I think you're on to something there!Maybe Montel will invite him on his show!
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Comment #76 posted by global_warming on September 02, 2006 at 10:12:06 PT
afterburner
you got Fire in this world
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Comment #75 posted by FoM on September 02, 2006 at 10:01:00 PT
Afterburner
You got mail.
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Comment #74 posted by global_warming on September 02, 2006 at 09:49:21 PT
To Jim Garvey
re: "California -- When I was a young man growing up in Southern California 50-some odd years ago, smoking marijuana or “Mary Jane” could wind you up in state prison for a term of five years with no questions asked because it was a felony. It was called “dope,” and for good reason: Only dopes smoked it and you got really dopey after smoking it."What? No Questions Asked? Felony? Sounds like you Jim had a very happy childhood.This a different day and there are many people who have tasted the blind allegiance mentality that you support.Similar arguments can be heard about Christians, and their undying beliefs, leaps of faith, all about some renegade carpenter, some renegade rabbi, does that sound "dopey" to you?There are many people in this world, and they are not so quick to snap to a salute, a shot and a beer is what I hear.
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Comment #73 posted by global_warming on September 02, 2006 at 07:54:05 PT
re: Ireland 
http://tinyurl.com/pgoz8US police chief's warning over doomed drugs policy
28/08/2006 - 15:14:06The prohibition against illicit street drugs should be ended as hard-line legislation against drugs is doomed to failure, a US police chief warned today.Jerry Cameron, a police veteran with 17 years experience, urged the Irish Government not to make the same mistakes the United States has made in its war on drugs.Mr Cameron said there was ample evidence the hard-line crackdown with severe prison sentences for possession of street drugs such as cannabis and heroin in America had failed to deal with the problem.“If someone wants to try a drug they are going to try it the law makes no difference,” he said.“In a free society you just can’t keep people from doing things which are sometimes foolish.”At a conference in Dublin, Mr Cameron said the mission of the Law Enforcement Against Prohibition (LEAP) was to save lives and lower crime rates by ending prohibition.“I would urge the Irish as a sovereign national country to get their own experts together, and dismiss this idea there is only one approach and come up with an Irish solution to Irish problems and do not let the US lead you down this path that we have gone down,” he said.Mr Cameron said prohibition simply never worked and results in criminal activity.“I certainly think the first step is physicians ought to be able to prescribe anything that they believe will help their patient, the police have got no business practising medicine,” he said.Mr Cameron said if the profit motive was removed from the criminals by making drugs legal then law enforcement could regain some control in the area.“The biggest thing is the violence that is associated with black markets when you buy a product from a person and it is defective, with a drug you can’t take him to court and you have to solve it in another way. And in the US we do that with guns,” he said.“I don’t think Ireland has started to experience the full consequences of the black market but it will.”Mr Cameron said if he could sit down with a parent and rationally discuss the evidence he could convince them of the futility of prohibiting drugs.“I certainly don’t want people out using drugs, but the problem is just like in alcohol prohibition you’re gonna’ have the same usage but with all of these unintended consequences caused by criminalising something that you can’t control,” he said.“If you wanted marijuana tonight and didn’t know where to go who would you ask? The young people, the teenagers. It is out there they have got it. The only thing that is different now is they have to deal with criminals in order to get it,” he said.“The guy from the market is not down at the school giving out cigarettes and beer as free samples, and trying to recruit the students to sell these products in their school. He has a licence to worry about.”Rick Lines of the Irish Penal Reform Trust said by any measure the 30-year international war on drugs has failed.“The use of illegal drugs has never been more prevalent, our prisons have never been fuller and injecting drug-related health concerns such as HIV and Hepatitis C infection have continued to grow across the world,” he said.Mr Cameron said marijuana was an innocuous drug which had been demonised. “My drug of choice is alcohol but if I had to make a decision,” he said. “It would take a nanosecond to tell you marijuana is the safer drug.”He added: “Poor eating habits are definitely more dangerous than marijuana.”Eoin Ryan, a Fianna Fáil MEP and former minister of state, who attended the conference, said: “What politician is going to get up and say you should legalise drugs?“The problem is if you are a minister who wants to legalise cannabis you are going to get an endless amount of medical evidence that cannabis is a carcinogenic.”He added: “The state would end up being sued as tobacco firms are being sued.”“I don’t know how we solve it, I honestly don’t,” he said.
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Comment #72 posted by afterburner on September 02, 2006 at 06:00:31 PT
OT: The Truth About Green Tea
The Truth About Green Tea
http://tinyurl.com/zg23mSome call it tea. She blinded me with science.
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Comment #71 posted by charmed quark on September 02, 2006 at 05:25:44 PT
Actually, this guy is typical
What I've seen over the years are "drug warriors" with a pre-determined agenda who then twist any information they can find to support this agenda. And, frankly, this is exactly how decisions in our national "war on drugs" are made.Basically, they use pseudo-science, selected information filtering, and distortion. And often get away with it.This guy is more fun. At least its obvious that he's making the stuff up whole cloth. Altering DNA with pot! What fun. That could explain all the genetic mutants we're seeing these days. We must restrict pot before we end up with more Godzillas attacking Tokyo:-)Maybe he got confused with the fake warning the anti-drug groups were putting out in the 70s about LSD altering DNA.I'm really surprise the paper published this. Unless they have a really twisted sense of humor?
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Comment #70 posted by RevRayGreen on September 01, 2006 at 22:03:47 PT:
Everyone PLEASE email
this article directly from the Times to montel montelshow.com , this Jim Garvey needs an education. Dumbass, not only is there scientific research validating MS patients claims, recent studies show it slows the progession of Alzhiemers, which he obviously has.
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Comment #69 posted by FoM on September 01, 2006 at 21:22:02 PT
Had Enough
I have been listening to Rust Radio today on and off. It's usually on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. Roel is playing all different live music from over the years. He has been playing some of the CSNY Freedom of Speech Tour music too.Night Hope. I'm not long from calling it a day too.http://www.rustradio.org/
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Comment #68 posted by Hope on September 01, 2006 at 21:15:37 PT
Had Enough
I so agree! But unless I'm alone...I'm not the boss of this place. *smile* I have to be alone to be the boss...that's kind of funny. Sort of.:0)Gotta hit the sack.
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Comment #67 posted by Had Enough on September 01, 2006 at 21:05:47 PT
TUNES!!! Comment #65
TV Ad Machines suck.They need to listen to Tunes.
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Comment #66 posted by Hope on September 01, 2006 at 20:57:38 PT
Here's another one...
http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v06/n1150/a02.html?1311talks about loads of evidence that cannabis is carconogenic.What?????
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Comment #65 posted by Hope on September 01, 2006 at 20:54:59 PT
Had Enough...
Lucky you! I can't play any music right now. People watching TV.
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Comment #64 posted by Hope on September 01, 2006 at 20:53:58 PT
Here it is...It's outrageous, too.
http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v06/n1150/a01.html?1311
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Comment #63 posted by Had Enough on September 01, 2006 at 20:51:21 PT
I'd Like to Mention
musemans tunes are crankin here.The Weed Song.To this MomentDon’t Forget WarThanks museman
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Comment #62 posted by Hope on September 01, 2006 at 20:49:40 PT
There was still another one about Ireland.
Something about Ireland would be penalized or fined by the other countries if they legalized, as another excuse not to do it.
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Comment #61 posted by Had Enough on September 01, 2006 at 20:45:58 PT
The Mind
Jim Garvey,Minister of State at the Department of Community Noel Ahern,***Another prime example of “How the mind can be a terrible thing”.Look what they do with theirs.
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Comment #60 posted by Hope on September 01, 2006 at 20:40:13 PT
Why oh why
must the world be ruled by hatefilled and prejudiced, ignorant, cranky old men?It's sad.
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Comment #59 posted by Hope on September 01, 2006 at 20:38:05 PT
Oh...
That doesn't sound good...except for the "calls" for legalization.Who will be brave enough and modern enough to be the first?Godspeed the day!
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Comment #58 posted by FoM on September 01, 2006 at 20:31:09 PT
Hope
This is all I could find about Ireland.***No Easing of Drugs Policy, Says AhernAugust 30, 2006The Minister with responsibility for drug treatment has dismissed calls for the legalisation of banned drugs.Minister of State at the Department of Community Noel Ahern said that Ireland has signed an international accord to ban the likes of heroin, cannabis and cocaine.A former Florida police chief this week provoked controversy when he urged European governments to declassify the substances in order to beat traffickers and better protect society and public health.Minister Ahern has today rejected the calls, saying they wouldn't work.“We're not going in that direction,” he said. “And if there is moves into the future it would have to be dealt with on a world wide basis. One country on its own cannot move.“Holland tried for a few years ago and they're backing off big time because they realised they were bringing a drug tourism.” Copyright: Thomas Crosbie Media, 2006. http://breakingnews.iol.ie/news/story.asp?j=159273800&p=y59z7438x
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Comment #57 posted by Hope on September 01, 2006 at 20:24:39 PT
Arnold
Don't you know that Walters and Souder and maybe even Bush are hovering all over him to keep him from signing that hemp bill?He'll really be doing something if he can do it.
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Comment #56 posted by Hope on September 01, 2006 at 20:23:15 PT
ekim
I haven't seen that film you mentioned in comment 32, but that article you posted in comment 9 is very, very interesting.The prohibs are going to "investigate" Cameron's appearance? They need "investigating" themselves. What pompousity!That mention of Ireland has me curious, too. Something is going on over there. That's the second mention I've heard of in the last two or three days about them, apparently, seriously considering legalization of cannabis.I sure hope that's true.
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Comment #55 posted by FoM on September 01, 2006 at 20:18:41 PT

California Hemp
Governor Arnold (never could spell his last name) signed on to decrease CO2 emissions so I wonder if he will sign the Hemp Bill. Hemp gives off Oxygen and takes in CO2. 
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Comment #54 posted by Hope on September 01, 2006 at 20:17:58 PT

Sorry
That wasn't a picture of a hemp break. It was a grain binder.It say though that, "Hemp grows luxuriously in Texas."
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Comment #53 posted by Hope on September 01, 2006 at 20:11:27 PT

That picture of the men working the hemp break
It says under it, "Hemp grows luxuriously in Texas".:0(Not any more.
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Comment #52 posted by FoM on September 01, 2006 at 20:11:07 PT

Ekim
Oh my that's right. I will never forget. Our lives from that point on have never been the same. Then came 9/11. 
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Comment #51 posted by FoM on September 01, 2006 at 20:08:53 PT

A Big Bubble Burster
They sure are bummers aren't they!
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Comment #50 posted by ekim on September 01, 2006 at 20:08:34 PT

talken about breaks
http://www.jackherer.com/popmech.htmldecorticator machine took the place of the hemp breakIn the film Hemp for Victory the hand break was said to be the hardest work known to man.
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Comment #49 posted by FoM on September 01, 2006 at 20:07:59 PT

Hope
My mom came from a tough background. The women were strong and the children listened or else. It was hard living she told me.
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Comment #48 posted by Hope on September 01, 2006 at 20:06:24 PT

Usually I love learning something
or understanding something that I didn't understand before...but I'm kind of sad about that cave.My childhood memory! Pffft!
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Comment #47 posted by Hope on September 01, 2006 at 20:04:29 PT

Oooooh...
Rolling pin and a strap!Mother and I were looking at Granddad's old razor strap the other day. She got a couple of spankings with it as a child and she said she remembered it as huge...but it's really quite small. Maybe nine inches long in all.
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Comment #46 posted by FoM on September 01, 2006 at 20:04:29 PT

Hope
I cheated. I used the link and typed it in! LOL!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canebrake%2C_West_Virginia
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Comment #45 posted by Hope on September 01, 2006 at 20:02:11 PT

Battle Dress Uniform...
I bet that's what it was. It would fit. I'd heard of BVDs which I think...but don't know, are some kind of men's underwear...but I knew it couldn't be underwear...because it was a fire/crime scene and they were wearing them investigating the scene.Thanks. It's been worrying me.
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Comment #44 posted by FoM on September 01, 2006 at 20:00:00 PT

Mama Lion
I see it as a big mama with a rolling pin in her one hand and a strap in the other! LOL! Too much!
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Comment #43 posted by FoM on September 01, 2006 at 19:58:31 PT

Battle Dress Uniform
Maybe?
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Comment #42 posted by Hope on September 01, 2006 at 19:57:22 PT

Mama Lion...
I saw it as a real, pacing, snarling, lion...that little Tennesee Ernie would cuddle up next to at night...in the cave.
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Comment #41 posted by FoM on September 01, 2006 at 19:57:05 PT

Had Enough
I didn't know some called me that. My what a compliment. We are on the same wavelength with posts. That's cool.
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Comment #40 posted by Hope on September 01, 2006 at 19:56:02 PT

Nobody answered a question I had the other day
Like I said, acronyms drive me crazy. But I was reading a book and someone was wearing BDUs...what were they wearing?
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Comment #39 posted by FoM on September 01, 2006 at 19:53:48 PT

Hope
An ol' mama lion sounds like a really hard line tough mom to me.
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Comment #38 posted by Hope on September 01, 2006 at 19:53:00 PT

Cranebrake, West Virginia?
That's a new one to me, too!It was a cave! It was a cave! It was a cave!Nah...but I sure thought it was.Might have to put that on the "Misunderstood Lyrics" site.
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Comment #37 posted by Hope on September 01, 2006 at 19:50:45 PT

Dang!
I used to think it was cane break (not in the song). Like a small clearing in a field of sugar cane. Then not long ago I learned the term brake as meaning a cluster of trees or cane...I assumed.Never too old to learn something.I'm kind of devastated that it wasn't a cave, though. What memories I have of thinking of that...and the old lion pacing the floor of the cave.:0)
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Comment #36 posted by FoM on September 01, 2006 at 19:49:18 PT

Hope
Could it mean Canebrake, West Virginia?I was raised in the canebrake* by an ol' mama lionCain't no-a high-toned woman make me walk the linehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canebrake%2C_West_Virginia
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Comment #35 posted by Hope on September 01, 2006 at 19:47:58 PT

Tom and Rollie...
will always be remembered.
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Comment #34 posted by Had Enough on September 01, 2006 at 19:47:19 PT

Canebrake
Canebrake is an unincorporated community located in McDowell County, West Virginia, USA. Canbrake was named for a thicket of canes in its vicinity. It has also been spelled Canebreak in its past.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canebrake%2C_West_Virginia

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Comment #33 posted by Hope on September 01, 2006 at 19:45:30 PT

Of course...as a kid...
I never read the lyrics or even heard of a cane brake...that I know of.Even know what it is, now...but not then.
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Comment #32 posted by ekim on September 01, 2006 at 19:44:50 PT

has anyone had a chance to see this film
http://www.drugpolicy.org/homepage.cfm
Come to the world premiere of the 55-minute version of this award-winning documentary on medical marijuana, and stay for a debate featuring DPA's Ethan Nadelmann and former ONDCP Deputy Drug Czar Andrea Barthwell.September 13, 2006 Washington, DC ---------
just a mention of the Rainbow Farm 5 year disgrace.meeting from 4to5 in front of the cass county court house on rds 60 and 62 mondayTom and Rolie will be remembered as good people.

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Comment #31 posted by Hope on September 01, 2006 at 19:42:44 PT

Cane brake?
All these years I thought it was a cave!
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Comment #30 posted by Hope on September 01, 2006 at 19:40:51 PT

One fist of iron...
the other one steel.If the right one don't get ya, the left one will.
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Comment #29 posted by Hope on September 01, 2006 at 19:39:19 PT

16 Tons
I actually used a comment from that song in a sad conversation today, before I saw it this evening. Grousing with some one about troubles, I said, "Kinda like you owe your soul to the company store?"It was a favorite of mine as a child, too, FoM. I had such mental pictures of "Raised in a cave by an old mama lion."Old Tennesse Ernie Ford. What a smile he had.
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Comment #28 posted by Hope on September 01, 2006 at 19:34:17 PT

Nasty man.
Notice his nasty little parting shot...after saying it can't be handled like any other prescription?"....pick up your private stash of marijuana."Disgusting, mean, hateful, deceptive, dirty, filthy, nasty, nasty man.(Sorry...that's Pollyanna cussing since I can't do the regular kind here, which is what occured to me when I read this load of nastiness.) 
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Comment #27 posted by Had Enough on September 01, 2006 at 19:19:04 PT

Hhhmm
“My mother was a coal miners daughter.Hhhmmm…I knew there was a reason many consider you “The First Lady of Cannabis”: )Thanks again for the tune.

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Comment #26 posted by FoM on September 01, 2006 at 19:10:18 PT

Had Enough
I grew up with that song playing in my house. My mother was a coal miners daughter. DankHank, We watched that show again. It was good thank you too.
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Comment #25 posted by Had Enough on September 01, 2006 at 18:56:32 PT

Cool Tune FoM. Thanks
Saint Peter don't you call me 'cause I can't go******I was raised in the canebrake* by an ol' mama lionCain't no-a high-toned woman make me walk the line*********The following is found here at this site:http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvcoal/sixteen.htmlThis song could definately be the battle cry of the American Miner. Miners were usually paid monthly. By the end of the month, they owed the company for the company house they were living in, for the tools they used to mine, for groceries to feed their family, and for any doctor bills. Miners had no choice but to buy from the companies. They were paid in scrip, not real money and this could only be spent at the company store.Naturally this enabled the company to charge the miners whatever they wished. Most miners with families were constantly in debt to the company. When the miners did get paid at the end of the month, if there was any money left after they paid their employers, it was certainly not enough to last them another month. So it was a viscious cycle, and the next month, they again had to pay the company first and were lucky to have anything left for their families. 

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Comment #24 posted by Dankhank on September 01, 2006 at 17:58:37 PT

Stargate SG-1
in couple of minutes "1969"flash to the past ...
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Comment #23 posted by FoM on September 01, 2006 at 16:48:15 PT

Global_Warming and Everyone
Happy Labor Day. Here's a cool song from way back when.16 Tons by Tennessee Ernie Fordhttp://www.jvtv.org/mine/16_Tons.Tennessee_Ernie_Ford.mp3
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Comment #22 posted by global_warming on September 01, 2006 at 16:36:32 PT

Happy Labor Day
I Hope you all are having a good holiday weekendLabor DayIn this AmericaWe Celebrate that common manThat man who worksTo buy bread and food
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Comment #21 posted by global_warming on September 01, 2006 at 16:16:28 PT

Hey Jim, re: Today the approach to marijuana 
"Today the approach to marijuana is certainly a lot different from when I was a teenager, and I wonder at the wisdom of such a decision."That is because we all know that millions of human beings have smoked it and did not go on to harder drugs, in fact there is some good that has come from this rouge plant, Marinol, though it is a synthetic drug and a high priced pharmaceutical, that plant may frighten you Jim Garvey, forget about it, surely if this weed were so bad truely, than we would be having crazy millions and millions of people shooting up hard drugs, instead we have a lot of people trying to have a good weekend, this week was a long work week.
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Comment #20 posted by ekim on September 01, 2006 at 10:25:27 PT

shes back
http://www.drugpolicy.org/homepage.cfmCome to the world premiere of the 55-minute version of this award-winning documentary on medical marijuana, and stay for a debate featuring DPA's Ethan Nadelmann and former ONDCP Deputy Drug Czar Andrea Barthwell.September 13, 2006
Washington, DC

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Comment #19 posted by mayan on September 01, 2006 at 10:11:56 PT

Unrelated
The neo-cons are clearly bracing for an insurrection. I have no idea why the governors are thinking that Rumsfeld will help them maintain control of their National Guard troops. They obviously aren't thinking...Governor Bring Guard Appeal to Rumsfeld: 
http://www.forbes.com/business/healthcare/feeds/ap/2006/08/31/ap2986534.htmlThis is madness...US Army Contemplates Redrawing Middle East Map to Stave-off Looming Global Meltdown: 
http://nafeez.blogspot.com/2006/08/us-army-contemplates-redrawing-middle.htmlCarlin is pissed...George Carlin - Who Really Controls America (video):
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=935607276Our only hope...9/11 skeptics challenge WTC findings:
http://www.amny.com/news/local/groundzero/am-loos0901,0,4383055.story?coll=am-topheadlinesKevin Barret - UW Fundraiser Continues:
http://madison.indymedia.org/newswire/display/47720/index.phpScholars For 9/11 Truth:
http://www.scholarsfor911truth.org/index.htmlVeterans For 9/11 Truth:
http://www.v911t.org/
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Comment #18 posted by Max Flowers on September 01, 2006 at 09:58:28 PT

#14 & #16
That will mean about three minutes of on-air time, with at least half of that taken up by the moronic Rethuglican attack-dog Hannity, yapping and nipping at Griffin.Hannity's game is oh so transparent. He trots out whatever the perceived right-wing exteme position is, using it to verbally assail the "guest", interrupting him, asking stupid questions for which he really doesn't want the answer (because he will be cutting off the answer with his next inane little attack). All so that the mindless FauX News fans can go "Yeah---Git 'im, boy! Yee HA! Yer a REEL UhMURican, Sean! That was great! Now whar's mah Bud Light?"  

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Comment #17 posted by Max Flowers on September 01, 2006 at 09:48:44 PT

This guy is a dolt
There must be a strict control over this entire operation and it must be under government control and not left up to the states.Hey buddy, you might want to check where you are again... this country is the United STATES. There are only a few things that are not left up to states. States are basically SOVEREIGN. Sovereign means... oh, never mind.... (sigh)
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Comment #16 posted by Dankhank on September 01, 2006 at 09:44:35 PT

darn ......
I don't GET Foxnews these days ...Have to upgrade my Dish package to see those haters ...I'm sure it'll be on youtube or prisonplanet soon after ...
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Comment #15 posted by Sinsemilla Jones on September 01, 2006 at 09:11:25 PT

LOL Mayan!
Same qualifications as Dubya!
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Comment #14 posted by mayan on September 01, 2006 at 09:01:36 PT

Jim Garvey
Give him a break! Maybe he stayed at a Holiday Inn Select Hotel last night! On an unrelated note, here's an unofficial animated music video for Depeche Mode's latest single from their album "Playing The Angel"...http://prisonplanet.com/articles/august2006/310806depeche.htmTHE WAY OUT IS THE WAY IN...Feds challenge 9/11 conspiracies:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=517619/11/2006: Family Members To Call For A New 9/11 Investigation:
http://prisonplanet.com/articles/September2006/010906Investigation.htm9-11 -- another view raises questions:
http://www.witherspoonsociety.org/2006/9_11_another_view.htm#oppositioProf under fire over 9/11: 
http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060830/REPOSITORY/608300312/0/NEWS029/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB - OUR NATION IS IN PERIL:
http://www.911sharethetruth.com/And don't forget, tonight (Fri.) David Ray Griffin will be the guest discussing 9/11 on "Hannity & Colmes" at 6-7:00 PM/PT (9-10:00 PM/ET) on FOX TV!

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Comment #13 posted by goneposthole on September 01, 2006 at 08:53:41 PT

Scientific 'facts'
There are no 'facts' in science, just scientific 'certainties.'If I eat a hundred pound sack of potatoes, will I become Mr. Potato Head?Mr. Garvey's propaganda is all lies, lies, lies.Another hypocrite who dares to call himself a 'Republican.'I'll bet dollars to donuts.It's a good thing that the 'Republicans' are shooting themselves in the foot on a daily basis.The horror stories surrounding Straight Inc. should be a wake up call for even Calvina Faye.The efficacy of cannabis is there, it cannot be denied, no matter how much it is criticized or demonized.
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Comment #12 posted by FoM on September 01, 2006 at 08:32:22 PT

Damn Hippies 
Isn't that the truth. I guess letting our freak flag fly scares some folks.
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Comment #11 posted by Sinsemilla Jones on September 01, 2006 at 08:19:49 PT

"Well, whatever disease Montel has.....
It should be respected, cause he's a veteran.But all you damn hippies are just faking it to get high.To set the record straight, I do favor a government investigation into allowing medical marijuana for Montel, but ONLY for Montel."(I feel I know this guy so well, I can answer for him.)
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Comment #10 posted by Truth on September 01, 2006 at 08:16:30 PT

oops
I mean "law enforment", not "military". I should read a little slower perhaps. Or maybe it's because I'm a dope.... (off to my corner)
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Comment #9 posted by ekim on September 01, 2006 at 08:16:21 PT

now read what another LEO has to say
Ireland: Big Macs More Dangerous Than Pot, Says LobbyistURL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v06.n1153.a02.html
Newshawk: Beth
http://www.leap.cc/events 
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Comment #8 posted by Truth on September 01, 2006 at 08:13:33 PT

geez
He prefers folks to have extreme pain (bad back) over the right to use a God given herb.20 years in the military sure taught this guy compasion.
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Comment #7 posted by Sinsemilla Jones on September 01, 2006 at 08:02:24 PT

Research?! We don't need your stinking research!
"Only dopes smoked it and you got really dopey after smoking it..........the constant use of marijuana tends to lead an individual towards more deadly and harder drugs.....risk the chance of altering their DNA genes.......For those who abuse any substance, the body tends to develop immunity to that substance and a greater amount is needed to achieve that certain plateau of whatever it is.Then that person remains in a constant altered state of mind."You can keep yer fancy lieberrys and itchernecks, all the info I need is in these here 40 year old govevernment pamplets!
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Comment #6 posted by dongenero on September 01, 2006 at 07:48:03 PT

on Jim Garvey's above article.....
so in conclusion....those are my theories as a law enforcement officer, on genetic science, Parkinson's (By the way,Montel has MS),chronic pain, dope and medical maryjuwana...... Now...I'll have a scotch and water.This is a goofy LTE that is getting way to much play.
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Comment #5 posted by Sam Adams on September 01, 2006 at 07:44:10 PT

Thanks Jim
What do most cops get, a high school education? Thanks so much for your informed decision.Maybe you should go back to drinking coffee & standing around manholes waving traffic by. Or stealing beer from teenagers. 
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Comment #4 posted by BGreen on September 01, 2006 at 07:43:47 PT

Cannabis ≠ Tobacco ≠ Alcohol
This cop/grand jurist needs to become familiar with this sign, ≠, because it means "not equal."No knowledgable person could or would extrapolate the physical effects of alcohol, even down to the genetic level, with cannabis or any other substance.Let's take the exact opposite stand and extrapolate the known physical effects of cannabis to alcohol, making alcohol a substance that has never directly caused the death of a human being, no matter how much was consumed or for how many years.Nobody in their right mind would believe something so stupid. Why then is it so easy for them to accept the equally implausible theory as put forth by Jim Garvey?The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #3 posted by FoM on September 01, 2006 at 07:23:01 PT

Montel Williams
He has MS not Parkinson's Disease. I wish writers would do research before they write. It shows it isn't really important to get the truth out.
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Comment #2 posted by Treeanna on September 01, 2006 at 07:15:43 PT

Cop training
That really isn't true. To become a peace officer in CA (now, not when this idiot was recruited)you have to have a decent amount of college classes and pass POST (Peace Officer Standards and Training)at all levels to make it to patrol officer.Unfortunatley, even those standards arent good enough, since there is no weeding out of the greedy, the power-hungry, or the corrupt. We need a psych screen.
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Comment #1 posted by Duzt on September 01, 2006 at 07:04:56 PT

I love these types of idiotic comments....
"Not being of the scientific community, but having spent over 20 years in active service in the law enforcement community, I believe I can speak with a certain amount of expertise. It is my opinion, and that of a lot of my colleagues across this country, that the constant use of marijuana tends to lead an individual towards more deadly and harder drugs."So he says he has no medical experience so that somehow gives him expertise??? In what??? Harrassing people and making stupid baseless statement? Police need a GED to become police, you can be a complete loser moron and become a cop. They have no expertise in anything. I'll go ahead and continue to listen to my doctor, I assume his 27 years in medicine would be a bit more of an expertise. 
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