cannabisnews.com: Ag Hemp Bill Headed To Governor Ag Hemp Bill Headed To Governor Posted by CN Staff on August 23, 2006 at 08:13:30 PT By The Ukiah Daily Journal Staff Source: Ukiah Daily Journal California -- On Monday, the California Industrial Hemp Farming Act was approved by the Assembly on a vote of 44-29. The bill is now taking steps toward Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger's desk for his signature. "I believe that the bill was passed at about 5 p.m. last night and all of us are very excited," said Adam Eidinger, communications director at Vote Hemp. "We've had a few meetings with the governor's staff and there wasn't much opposition to this bill. But they are tight-lipped about which side they are leaning to so we are unsure exactly if they are for or against it. I believe that he has until Sept. 30 to sign the bill." AB 1147 has gained momentum as more legislators learned that California businesses spend millions of dollars each year to import hemp from Canada, China and Europe. "This bill would allow for the growth of the hemp industry here in California," Eidinger said. "The bill is very straightforward and now there isn't confusion between this bill and a bill legalizing marijuana." The demand for hemp and its use in numerous products, such as food, body care, clothing, paper and even auto parts, has been growing rapidly in recent years. The U.S. hemp market now exceeds an estimated $270 million in annual retail sales, and the new law would give farmers the ability to legally supply U.S. manufacturers with hemp seed, oil and fiber and would not weaken anti-drug laws."There is tremendous potential for growing hemp here in California. It would be an optimum place to grow industrial hemp because of its yearlong growing season."Hemp also helps to make the soil better by controlling the amount of nematodes that eat the roots of other crops. So you could grow a crop of hemp in one season and then grow another different crop and not have to spray for these very small worms," Eidinger said.In February 2005, the California Industrial Hemp Farming Act was introduced by Democratic Assemblyman Mark Leno. This year, the bill was amended and Republican Assemblyman Chuck Devore joined as co-author. In the bipartisan spirit of the legislation, the bill was managed on the floor of the Senate by Republican Tom McClintock and received support from Sen. Able Maldonado, a farmer and Republican member of the Senate Agriculture Committee. Another influential Republican senator who supported the bill was Sam Aanestad, vice chairman of the Senate Appropriations Committee. The support of Democratic Assemblywoman Barbara Matthews, chairwoman of the Assembly Agriculture Committee, was also helpful in the passage of the bill, supporters said."The bill gained a lot of support last week from both Republicans and Democrats," Eidinger said. AB 1147 has been carefully crafted to comply with federal law and minimize the impact to law enforcement. It includes tough regulations without placing an undue burden on farmers. The bill permits cultivation of only ultra-low-THC industrial hemp grown as an agricultural field crop or in a research setting. Growing hemp in a backyard setting or the horticultural cultivation of hemp is prohibited, and any hidden or secret groves of cannabis will be considered a controlled substance regardless of its THC content."While seven other states grow hemp, this law to grow industrial hemp in California wouldn't require the DEA to give a license to the people growing it," Eidinger said. "And the state has guidelines and laws to keep people from abusing this bill."Locally, some activists point out a possible drawback to the growing of agricultural hemp in Mendocino County."I am trying to advise not to grow hemp here in Mendocino County because of the chance of cross-pollination between the plants used for medical marijuana," said Johanna Schultz, the public relations director and board secretary at the Hemp Industries Association. "We are trying to help hemp agriculture stay generally within the Central Valley."The problem of cross-pollination would develop because if industrial hemp was grown within a 10-mile radius of medical marijuana, the hemp would start to have higher levels of THC and not conform the regulations of industrial hemp. The same could also be said for the medical marijuana being grown because the level of THC would go down if plants were to be cross-pollinated. And while Schultz and the HIA don't suggest that it would be a good idea to grow hemp in Mendocino County, the passing of AB 1147 would be good for local businesses that are involved with it."We have about 500 members and support activists, and the signing of this bill would help a lot of our members here and all across the country," Schultz said. Source: Ukiah Daily Journal (CA)Published: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 Copyright: 2006 Ukiah Daily JournalContact: udj pacific.netWebsite: http://www.ukiahdailyjournal.com/Related Articles & Web Site:Vote Hemphttp://www.votehemp.com/Assembly Sends Hemp Bill To Governorhttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread22088.shtmlBill Would Allow Hemp Farming in Californiahttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread22072.shtmlHemp Bill Passes Senate Public Safety Committeehttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread21949.shtml Home Comment Email Register Recent Comments Help Comment #63 posted by hempity on August 24, 2006 at 18:26:21 PT Holy Smoke in Nelson B.C. busted for trafficking Canada: Nelson, British Columbia, Head Shop Busted for Marijuana Sales7/21/06 http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/445/nelson-bc-marijuana-bust.shtml The Holy Smoke Culture Shop and Psyche-Deli in Nelson, British Columbia, was busted Saturday night and one of the owners, Paul DeFelice, was jailed on marijuana and psilocybin distribution charges.As a Nelson resident for much of the past four years, this writer has been aware of Holy Smoke, but has never published articles about the activist-oriented establishment. Nelson police have never seemd to have an issue with them.But it was Nelson City Police who raided Holy Smoke on Saturday, and DeFelice told the Nelson Daily News he was not surprised. Since the change in federal government, he said, police have been given marching orders to make "small-time" busts. "It's pretty screwed priorities when there's murders and violence and robberies, home invasions that they make the priority in something where there's no victim and no complainants," said DeFelice.Still, the bust was "all good," DeFelice said. "The idea is in the long run we want to be left alone because we're not hurting anybody but at the same time, if they want to come after us, plenty of arguments that we want to make in court, plenty of answers to legal questions that I want to hear. I want to hold the powers that be to account," he said. "I want to educate the public, and if they're going to shine a spotlight on me and give me a platform, I'll definitely use it."Police are promising more arrests, but the Holy Smoke bust is already a symbolic blow to the Nelson area's burgeoning marijuana community. The area and the nearby Slocan Valley are notorious pot-growing zones -- while hard numbers are hard to come by, one indication of the size of the local industry is the four marijuana grow equipment shops in Nelson. The Washington-Baltimore metropolitan area has two.-- END --Paul is a good man and a great fighter, looks like a war brewing in Nelson. Holy Smoke [ Post Comment ] Comment #62 posted by FoM on August 24, 2006 at 17:34:29 PT Just a Note museman I think I was wrong. I thought Country Joe became an Attorney. I did a search and couldn't find anything so I must be mistaken. Sorry about that. [ Post Comment ] Comment #61 posted by FoM on August 24, 2006 at 16:37:16 PT museman I'm sorry I didn't get back with you before now. What I meant is our generation when looking for a career were going into nursing and teaching. Country Joe became a lawyer. Concern for the environment started then and the herbal medicine industry began. My son's hospice nurse went to Woodstock. I saw that gentleness in her when dealing with my son. That's what I meant. [ Post Comment ] Comment #60 posted by whig on August 24, 2006 at 16:30:26 PT museman #56 I am divided against myself right now, and ask for your guidance brother Terry.I am trying to promote the blog because I believe we should all have a higher profile in the (inter)national discussion on how society should be better self-organized. But in promoting the blog I am promoting myself, as well. It is hard sometimes to see what is self-serving from what is purely in the desire to tell the truth, even when they are both the same.I would want very much for your words to be spread to the largest audience who can hear and understand them. I want to be having this conversation with you all the time, and learning from you, but at the same time I want to be discussing these things on my blog for others to find and link to and respond. CNews feels to me like a comfortable nest and a home, Cannablog feels more like my office, what I am responsible for and not just a guest.I guess what I'd really like is if all of us had our own blogs and all of us were linking to one another and to CNews and to the rest of the world. I know that Pete Guither and Thehim are out here too but I don't know them as well as I know you and the people who are regulars here.How can I keep pushing myself forward without bringing my friends along? How can I do that without feeling like I pursued success over family and more important things? But if I don't do that, how can I feed my own family?I really need some Christian advice from you. [ Post Comment ] Comment #59 posted by museman on August 24, 2006 at 13:03:52 PT FoM "I think our generation tried to do more for our country then any generation since."Fortunately, the jury is still out on the upcoming generation. It really depends on what you mean by 'do for our country.'I see a whole lot of brand new cars driving bumper to bumper on what used to be rural highways that now resemble L.A. freeways without the lanes, and it's mostly my/our generation that's driving them.The C.E.O.s that decided to perpetuate capitalistic rape and pillage upon the earth, are our generation. The politicians, generals, and other 'respected' persons of stature and 'authority' are our generation.Our generation definitely broke some ground, laid some important groundwork (currently still rejected by the mainstream), but that was/is only a minority. The majority are just like any other generation with their own human concerns which get in the way of such things as global awareness.I'd be glad to have my opinion be proved wrong, but I don't think I'm gonna live that long. So if I'm proved wrong after I die, engrave it on my stone (if my family is fortunate enough to be able to afford one); "He was wrong." [ Post Comment ] Comment #58 posted by FoM on August 24, 2006 at 12:32:27 PT museman I think our generation tried to do more for our country then any generation since. I believed what John Kennedy said. Ask not what you country can do for you but WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR YOUR COUNTRY. We tried but money and making more of it was what became the focus. Hope, Thank you. It will be nice and refreshing. [ Post Comment ] Comment #57 posted by Hope on August 24, 2006 at 12:02:35 PT CSNY next Tuesday Have a wonderful time! I'm looking forward to Wednesday to hear all about it. [ Post Comment ] Comment #56 posted by museman on August 24, 2006 at 11:50:52 PT several things... As an experienced grower, the idea of deliberately encouraging seeds in all my plants would have been like building a three masted ship, and then trying to sail with only one sail.Seeds are important, and any natural-style grower (not hydro under lights, with chemical, and concentrated organic fertilizer for growth and flowering) always had 2 or 3 'seed' plants a ways off from their main gardens -to perpetuate the strain. The seeding of herb is more of an art than just cloning, and goes back as far as cannabis cultivation itself.The fears of 'contaminating' medicinal, or 'smoking' herb by growing hemp are relatively unfounded. Yes, wind can carry pollen a long ways, but usually would only pollinate a few plants, rendering a few seeds which wouldn't really affect the potency of the bud. You just don't grow those seeds.Bush, and Republicans;If any one thinks that any kind of accountability is going to be seen in that camp are in for a huge disappointment -in my opinion-. History proves it. They are all in an exclusive club called Wealth and Power, and the Democrats belong to it too.They tend to throw individuals to the mob, to satisfy the need for some kind of retribution, but the core of the power has never ever been touched. They've got plenty of eager young wolves jockeying for position, so if they have to kick one of their own, they don't feel too much pain.Impeachment sounds real nice, but if it could or did happen that would mean that this was actually a democratic representative people-run governement, which it most decidedly IS NOT.Tried for war crimes? Don't make me laugh. Sorry for the cynicism, but I have no faith left for liars, thieves, war-mongers, wealth hoarders, capitalistic swine, and elitists. Which are all proscribed traits necessary to succeed in politics, finance, and society in general.And that leads to 'christians.'Though there are many good folks in the world who sincerely attempt ot live the precepts, teachings, and examples as demonstrated by Yashua ben Yoseph (called 'jesus' by the Romans) the institution of xtianity is no better than our government. In fact the unholy matrimony between the church and state has been revealed in all it's disgusting putrescence in the current political regime, put in power by lies, subterfuge, and the apparent rampant ignorance in a substantial portion of the xtian church.The cores are rotten. The fruit is poison. Choose not to swallow if you dare, if you can.The biggest gateway to addiction is our school system which by monetary mandate from the fed, is forced to adapt curriculum with a saturated content of useless skills (to have the appearance of some actual substance) and accentuated focus on consumerism, cowed servitude to the "rule of law", and moral ignorance mislabeled as 'liberty.'The generation that could be called to fight in this war (The wars never really stopped you know) may appear to not be 'in the streets' but there is good reason.While their parents were out in the world 'earning their wages' their kids were being taught crap, BS, and that selfish 'I-me-mine' attitudes were not only 'acceptable' but cool!If any one has any complaints about the lack of participation from this generation, they should ask the question;' "Just how much has your own energy and time supported all these institutions of commerce, education, politics, and religion - all of which are rotten at the core- how much gas did you burn on your way to creating more and more distance between you and your children, while allowing these demonic ideals to be instilled in their consciousness?" [ Post Comment ] Comment #55 posted by FoM on August 24, 2006 at 11:41:10 PT Hope The whole thing is very sad. If this guy did it or it was someone closer in the family she is dead. I am keeping up or trying to with drywall dirt. I told the guys working on our place this morning that I think of them more as family they have been working here so long. They are good people and work really hard and it is nice when you are comfortable with people working on your house. As far as the news goes I am really not watching it. I don't need to be entertained and particularly with the news. I am getting really excited about seeing CSNY next Tuesday. It will be a welcome break from working on the house and it will rejuvinate my spirit. I have a feeling I'm going to do a lot of crying. I get choked up just reading reviews from the tour. Ah us women are just mushes. LOL! [ Post Comment ] Comment #54 posted by Hope on August 24, 2006 at 11:26:18 PT the guy I'm not keeping up with it either. "Sensational" news is stinky stuff and I don't see the value in it and I don't want to waste my time with it. All predators that kill and brutalize need to be stopped. Just gives me the chills knowing someone was in their house and they didn't know it. Makes me appreciate my "cozy" little house that much more. [ Post Comment ] Comment #53 posted by FoM on August 24, 2006 at 10:50:22 PT Hope I haven't been watching the news because it is so out of touch or something. If this guy did it why. He said it was an accident but she had been really hurt. An accident doesn't show signs of repeated abuse. I'm not following it because I can't handle the news being wasted on him. I still feel it was someone she knew very well. How long does it take for handwriting to be cross checked and DNA? They sure are slow. S-T-R-E-T-C-H that news! [ Post Comment ] Comment #52 posted by Hope on August 24, 2006 at 10:42:08 PT Comment 42 That was my first thought when I first heard the news. [ Post Comment ] Comment #51 posted by FoM on August 24, 2006 at 09:34:32 PT Mayan I won't say who could do it because I can't read the future but I do believe we have made enough enemies within the Muslim religion that an attack could happen. [ Post Comment ] Comment #50 posted by mayan on August 24, 2006 at 09:32:07 PT Psy-Ops FoM, I wouldn't put it past the neo-cons to "sacrifice" a U.S. city to maintain their power. If folks were reluctant to believe that the gov't would do something like 9/11 then what will people think when a mid-sized or even major U.S. city is completely turned to ash? The gov't knows how folks will react just as they knew prior to 9/11. Psy-ops suck. THE WAY OUT...GOP candidate says 9/11 attacks were a hoax: http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060824/NEWS01/108240131/-1/businessJones And Marrs To Expose 'Terror Conspiracy' At Dallas Conference: http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2006/240806terrorconspiracy.htmPopular Mechanics "9/11 Myths" Debunker Cancels Radio Debate: http://prisonplanet.com/articles/August2006/240806Debunker.htmAnother 9/11 Coverup in the Making? http://www.alternet.org/story/406939/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB - OUR NATION IS IN PERIL: http://www.911sharethetruth.com/ [ Post Comment ] Comment #49 posted by FoM on August 24, 2006 at 08:32:26 PT Mayan I hope we don't have another attack but if I lived in DC or New York I would be expecting it. If it was bigger then 9/11 they could make the Draft come back without many complaints I think. If the Draft comes back I hope they don't allow people to get out of it for college or any reason because it isn't fair to make poor young men and women go to war and leave those that come from well to do families out of it. [ Post Comment ] Comment #48 posted by mayan on August 24, 2006 at 08:18:42 PT FoM As we've said all along, a draft could be the only thing to get the young off of their asses and into the streets. But with almost everyone knowing that the "justifications" for the Iraq war were based on lies and with folks coming around to 9/11 truth, a draft would be political suicide for any politician of any party who supported it. That's why an economic collapse, which could be blamed on another "terror attack", could make joining the military the only option for many. With one stone, the neo-cons could possibly get their wars with Iran and Syria,tens of thousands of fresh soldiers and a new mandate to dismantle,once and for all, what remains of that pesky document which we call the U.S. Constitution. 'I Believe The Dollar Is Doomed' - By Richard Russell: http://rense.com/general73/russe.htmFalse Flag News - Saving the world one drill at a time: http://falseflagnews.com/ [ Post Comment ] Comment #47 posted by FoM on August 24, 2006 at 07:35:36 PT Mayan I really appreciate the article about the Draft. I feel that is how it is. If I had a son or daughter stationed in Iraq I would believe they are sitting ducks. The Draft would give them more troops and their chances of survival would be better but it would hurt the Bush administration. I don't want the Draft but I don't want the war either.Quote from Neil Young: I hate this stinking war! [ Post Comment ] Comment #46 posted by mayan on August 24, 2006 at 06:48:59 PT whig Thanks for the link to the bradblog piece. Here's an article that also quotes The Register article and has some additional commentary by Geov Parrish...Was British terror plot a load of crap? http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?itemid=21261Two 'terror plot' suspects freed: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5276878.stmDid Insiders Milk Terror Plot For Criminal Trading? http://prisonplanet.com/articles/august2006/240806criminaltrading.htmThose who support the war(s) should enlist immediately...Group: Bush can reinstate the draft, or lose the Iraq War: http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/Group_Bush_can_reinstate_draft_or_0823.htmlIs the Next Step a Draft? (interesting comments!) http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/08/is_the_next_ste.html [ Post Comment ] Comment #45 posted by OverwhelmSam on August 24, 2006 at 04:18:18 PT Bush Tripping I noticed it too. Something must be going down that he can't tell the public about. Remote controlled nuclear bombs in every major city across the nation maybe? [ Post Comment ] Comment #44 posted by Toker00 on August 24, 2006 at 03:48:15 PT Is it just me, or was George W. Bush tripping at the Press conference? I haven't seen him that jittery in a while. I almost expected him to fall down when he left the podium! Guilty Conscience, George? That would be news. That he has a Conscience, I mean.Please be safe and I pray no one becomes a victim of the "Heavily Exposed" PNAC agenda. Hosting another 9-11 Truth showing this weekend. Dear God: Please stop all wars. Thank you for Cannabis.Toke. [ Post Comment ] Comment #43 posted by whig on August 24, 2006 at 02:16:53 PT cannablog I've updated the format some, and added a support cannablog page because against whatever preferences I might have to do this without any help, I don't want to have to eat peanut butter & jelly at home every day and if I'm going to take any funding I don't want it to affect what I write about and how. I'm open to other suggestions and discussion, because this is what I want to do if people think I'm good at it and if it's valuable to the community, but domestic harmony depends on my not running a lunch deficit. http://cannablog.wordpress.com/ [ Post Comment ] Comment #42 posted by Max Flowers on August 24, 2006 at 00:28:02 PT (OT Karr case) I just saw this on a comment board elsewhere. I hadn't thought of this reason, but now that I hear it, it's the only motivation for a false confession that makes sense:Karr is just making an attempt to avoid doing time in a prison in Thailand for crimes against children over there. I would rather do life in an American prison than 1 year in a thai prison. Smart move by this sick man, good luck extraditing him back to Thailand. [ Post Comment ] Comment #41 posted by FoM on August 23, 2006 at 22:31:24 PT Thanks EJ I didn't thing about it that way. [ Post Comment ] Comment #40 posted by E_Johnson on August 23, 2006 at 22:24:54 PT FoM about seedless pot The plant only has so much energy available to it through its metabolic processes. When the female makes seeds, she uses up energy that could go into making more calyxes with more resin.Seeds really ruin the final yield. If you're growing for medicine, seeds can be a catastrophe. [ Post Comment ] Comment #39 posted by FoM on August 23, 2006 at 22:24:08 PT Music Makes Your Brain Happy Happy music that's not good. They'll try to make music illegal because it makes us happy. The terrible happy word.http://www.wired.com/news/technology/medtech/0,71631-0.html?tw=wn_index_2 [ Post Comment ] Comment #38 posted by Sinsemilla Jones on August 23, 2006 at 21:51:29 PT kona - Just wait till you see the price of food... when it has to be grown inside after Bushageddon. [ Post Comment ] Comment #37 posted by FoM on August 23, 2006 at 21:48:16 PT Whig I don't think that people who pay a lot of money for Medical Cannabis at a dispensary want to pay for stems and seeds. If Cannabis was legal seeds wouldn't be an issue because the price would fall dramatically. [ Post Comment ] Comment #36 posted by whig on August 23, 2006 at 21:44:57 PT FoM I don't even know if the dispensaries carry seeded pot. I'll have to find out sometime but I don't need anything right now and if you are going to one of those places they are trying to get medicine to patients not answer questions from someone who doesn't need anything at the moment.I'll have an article up about them soon I think. [ Post Comment ] Comment #35 posted by FoM on August 23, 2006 at 21:38:56 PT Whig I never understood why seedless pot was desirable except so people would be able to sell seeds. I just look at the whys of about everything. [ Post Comment ] Comment #34 posted by whig on August 23, 2006 at 21:35:04 PT FoM I'd never thought about it that way before The GCW said it, but it's true. I've tried to have a relationship with plants I was growing, and to deprive them of pleasure I wouldn't expect them to be happy. I had a peace lily and I was always happy when it flowered.Happy pot is good pot. [ Post Comment ] Comment #33 posted by FoM on August 23, 2006 at 21:20:38 PT whig Happy Pot that made me laugh. [ Post Comment ] Comment #32 posted by whig on August 23, 2006 at 21:08:21 PT konagold The thing we both want is for it to be possible for people to grow their own cannabis at home without risk of persecution. When this happens the price will fall out of the market.Until this happens don't hate the people who are getting cannabis to the people who need it. I won't let the perfect be the enemy of the good that comes from letting sick people have their medicine. [ Post Comment ] Comment #31 posted by whig on August 23, 2006 at 21:05:26 PT GCW I had some homegrown seeded cannabis one time that a friend gave me. It was very happy pot. [ Post Comment ] Comment #30 posted by The GCW on August 23, 2006 at 20:37:48 PT The Ecologician built this place. & He cares. God,Christ God Our Father; the Ecologician,Created this place.This is no accident. We are told to beware of certain people...And now the ones doing much of the killing from this end are doing the killing in the name of Our Father's son.Christ.One who claims Christ, is not supposed to kill. That is supposed to be for those who do not have Christ.Those who say they have Christ and kill DO NOT HAVE CHRIST, BUT SAY THEY DO.They are lost; do not follow them.2 Thessalonians 2 Man of Lawlessnesshttp://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=60&chapter=2&version=49999Jude 1 (The one and only before Revelation)The Warnings of History to the Ungodly...3 Beloved, while I was making every effort to write you about our common salvation, I felt the necessity to write to you appealing that you contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all handed down to the saints. 4 For certain persons have crept in unnoticed, those who were long beforehand marked out for this condemnation, ungodly persons who turn the grace of our God into licentiousness and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ. ... CONT. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=72&chapter=1&version=49999Every week it seems there is a new medical problem that cannabis helps... If this continues they will be hard pressed to stop the superplant from showing its face!!!They (the so called Christian conservative right) absalutely must stop cannabis.Cannabis exposes them.999999If things get any more out of their control, the people (that THEY wish to control) may try to see if the LEAVES of the TREE OF LIFE / KANEH BOSM / CANNABIS really can heal the nations.-0-Revelation 22 - The River and the Tree of Lifehttp://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=73&chapter=22&version=49999999Who remembers the bumper sticker:THE MORAL MAJORITY IS NEITHER???Yeah,BUDSNAXZYeah mayan.999True 911'ersGet Your hands on that video newsclip of the monkey (is He really even a hu-man?) speaking on the 5:00pm news; 911 DAY.His face and smirk, says it all. [ Post Comment ] Comment #29 posted by FoM on August 23, 2006 at 20:36:05 PT Ekim Thank you so very much for that video. It really makes me feel so sad that this is what we have become. [ Post Comment ] Comment #28 posted by FoM on August 23, 2006 at 20:24:55 PT Ekim Half Way Down The Page Same Topic YOUR AMERICA Not your grandpa's America...By R.B. Warford, LWW TodayRemember those close calls on election night? Howard Dean does too. So does Al Gore. Check out our U.S. computer voting system in action. http://www.neilyoung.com/lwwtoday/index.html [ Post Comment ] Comment #27 posted by ekim on August 23, 2006 at 20:16:09 PT Watch this video A partial transcript:Are there computer programs that can be used to secretly fix elections?Yes.How do you know that to be the case?Because in October of 2000, I wrote a prototype for Congressman Tom Feeney [R-FL]...It would rig an election?It would flip the vote, 51-49. Whoever you wanted it to go to and whichever race you wanted to win.And would that program that you designed, be something that elections officials... could detect?They'd never see it. Evan Derkacz is a New York-based writer and contributor to AlterNet. © 2006 Independent Media Institute. All rights reserved.View this story online at: http://www.alternet.org/bloggers/evan/40755/ [ Post Comment ] Comment #26 posted by The GCW on August 23, 2006 at 20:00:54 PT 2 things! FIRST!This mind boggling government will pull off a bigger explosion than 911 to keep the monkey in the presidents seat!They have a holy war and don't see it the way Christ God Our Father sees it.Our Main Man said to love one another and that includes the concept that it is better to be killed than to kill.Like it or not; that is the Biblical reality and whether or not You accept it... it is important that people realize the ones pushing this killing machine claims to be Christian.Yet kill one another; instead.Think about it.So called Christians (DISOBEDIENT CHRISTIANS) that kill hundreds of thousands of innocent people to get what they want.0-0PEACE-0-Second,People should have access to cannabis that does what they want it to do; that it was meant to do,THAT HAS SEEDS.Not sex starved cannabis.The Green Collar Worker [ Post Comment ] Comment #25 posted by FoM on August 23, 2006 at 19:42:43 PT whig I fear nuclear war. Some people won't accept losing. [ Post Comment ] Comment #24 posted by konagold on August 23, 2006 at 19:41:36 PT: Whig #13 Aloha Whigtho your question of what the ideal solution might be is valid, a couple of thingsonly a small portion of illegally grown pot is sold to legitimate medicinal users; most is grown for outrageous profit only, and thus most medicinal users must pay black market prices as a consequencewhether it be sold for either medicine or fun; if pot were able to be grown in a legal commercial fashion it would be worth about $2 per Lb of un-manicured buds$2 legal v. about $6000 black market makes it hard to see most so called medical growers as selfless herosAlohaRev. Dennis Shields http://thereligionofjesuschurch.org [ Post Comment ] Comment #23 posted by whig on August 23, 2006 at 19:22:30 PT FoM There's a limit to what they can practically get away with. Really, there is. In an earlier time and without the internet, we'd be dead meat. But there's a cost to everything they do, and they are feeling the heat already. A draft? There would have to be a major invasion to justify that.So what I'm saying is it would have to be so big and so incontrovertable that it would swing the public back in line to support them -- and the 9/11 truth movement has spread pretty widely already to the point that a large number of people know something was up with that one. Is there a sale still possible to be made and can they do it and cover their tracks so well that nobody will catch their fingers on the trigger?The alternative, and the one that I fear more, is that in their desperation and realization that they cannot win us over that way or in any way, that we have lost faith in them completely and want them to step down and remove themselves ever from being trusted again, in their unwillingness to repent, they will launch a nuclear war. [ Post Comment ] Comment #22 posted by FoM on August 23, 2006 at 19:11:28 PT mayan What I think is going to happen is one of two things. We'll end the war in Iraq fast. The other is the war will continue to escalate and our soldiers are going to start getting really frazzled and some have already in a big way. They won't activate a draft until after the November elections if they are going to do it. They will keep recycling troops. I really feel bad for soldiers in an urban situation fighting people and they don't know who to fight since it is a civil war. [ Post Comment ] Comment #21 posted by BUDSNAXZ on August 23, 2006 at 18:46:25 PT MAYAN I follow your favorite topic as close as you (911) and you are so right, we are due very soon for another attack. Have you noticed the three-prevelent things I have lately? 1. They are pushing their version of what happened on 911 so hard in the movies and TV so much these days desperately trying to still convince the uninformed that Bin Laden did it. There are movies and so many 911 specials on all the corporate media it just sickens me. 2. They are preparing us for the next attack by increasingly suggesting it in the media. They ran CNN polls today asking Americans how many believe Bin Laden is preparing to attack the country again. I think that is their litmus test to see if they have bamboozled enough of the public to get away with it yet. Day in and out all I hear now is threats that it's going to happen. They are trying to get us ready so they can say we told you it was going to happen when they do it. I still don't believe a word of it. They are truly scared and being backed into a corner. They will have to act soon or go to jail. 3. They are doing the same by preparing us for war with Iran. You can see it slowly being built up in the news little by little as they did with their other imperialist junkets. It is working here on the uninformed to some extent but the rest of the world sees right through it and still despises us more and more because of our present criminal government. Unfortunately this is what I think is coming. I just hope humanity can survive the coming neo-con agenda.Peace allMac [ Post Comment ] Comment #20 posted by mayan on August 23, 2006 at 18:44:29 PT Interesting Folks know something's up...Marine call-up greeted with anger, suspicion: http://www.wstm.com/Global/story.asp?S=5316208&nav=2aKDFeel a draft yet? What will spark it? [ Post Comment ] Comment #19 posted by whig on August 23, 2006 at 18:43:30 PT mayan Have you seen the bit on how flatly impossible the liquid explosive plot was? http://cannablog.wordpress.com/ [ Post Comment ] Comment #18 posted by mayan on August 23, 2006 at 18:30:13 PT Max Check out the first link in my comment #4. Many in the 9/11 truth movement and the neo-cons alike are predicting another "terror attack" before the mid-terms. Just who will execute it is the only difference in their predictions. Most folks in the military,brass on down, know that 9/11 was an inside job. Add on to that their contempt for Rumsfeld and what he has done to the military and you have the ingredients for a military coup. Our generals know that if there is another attack we will be in the middle of WWIII. I doubt if they're too anxious to fight it, especially if it's based on a false flag attack.It's likely that either the neo-cons will be in prison or political dissidents will. [ Post Comment ] Comment #17 posted by Sinsemilla Jones on August 23, 2006 at 18:07:20 PT Hemp was/is bred for fiber quality and quantity. So there would be a drop off in hempfulness, so to speak, in the medicinal bred plant, but its bound to at least be useful as biomass for fuel and perhaps paper. But it does occur to me that hemp has probably also been bred for the easy separation of the fiber from the hurd of the stalk, so that might also be a limiting factor.Of course, there's no reason, except the ever present obvious one, that the qualities of "hemp" plants couldn't be bred into "marijuana" plants and vice versa, given as that is how the two varieties were created to begin with.But I think kona is right that the increased flower production bred into recent sativa/indica crosses may be a boon to seed production.Herer notes that Thomas Jefferson actually participated in the smuggling of quality hemp seeds out of China, in violation of their laws, so one can imagine that there was a reason for such efforts.I never have read anything about indicas being used for food and/or fiber, but you'd have to imagine it was in the indica indigenous regions. [ Post Comment ] Comment #16 posted by FoM on August 23, 2006 at 17:44:05 PT Whig I agree with you. The Queen of England grows her own Hemp for her valuable horses. We can run our vehicles on Hemp. Hemp foods are becoming more and more available. Hemp ice cream and Hemp beer too. It is being used to make kitchen counter tops because it makes them strong and lighter in weight. We know the medicianl uses of Cannabis-Hemp and I am only mentioning things that I know.http://www.hempcar.org/ [ Post Comment ] Comment #15 posted by whig on August 23, 2006 at 17:25:57 PT FoM It's really important that we develop cannabis and hemp technologies to make us self-sufficient because no other crop can do what it can as efficiently, and when our only other alternative is petroleum and petrochemicals which destroy the land and lead to war for more resources. [ Post Comment ] Comment #14 posted by FoM on August 23, 2006 at 16:44:25 PT konagold That would be the perfect plant if it could supply different needs. If it was legal I believe there would be plenty of dedicated people trying to develop a universal multi purpose plant.Aloha to you too. [ Post Comment ] Comment #13 posted by whig on August 23, 2006 at 16:35:57 PT konagold Profiteering occurs in the "legal" market too. You are right that those profits should be invested in trying to make things better. People are self-interested and they want to provide for their families too. So it's hard to be too harsh about it, and I would be a hypocrite to condemn it.I think it is best when there is no need for a market because people will be free to grow and give away as much as they want. I guess the question is, does this perfect ideal mean we shouldn't want cannabis getting to people otherwise? I don't think so, and I don't resent the fact that providers of medical marijuana might make more than their operating expenses. Enough to do it full time and still eat for themselves. [ Post Comment ] Comment #12 posted by konagold on August 23, 2006 at 16:19:11 PT: hemp and high thc Aloha FOMmedicinal plants tend to be shorterthe trick with hemp fiber is the length of the fiber; the taller the plant the longer the fiber thus the greater the yeald of fiberthe fiber in shorter plants is just as strong obviously just shorterso medicinal plants could be harvested for fiber as well as medicine just the amount of fiber produced would be less per acre than the tall low thc sativa hemp plantsif the goal were seeds for food then medicinal plants might have a greater poundage of harvest than the spindily hemp plant grown close together and thus with less flowers per plant to produce seed; one would need to experiment with differing growing techniques to determin which would have the greater seed yealdAlohaRev. Dennis Shields http://thereligionofjesuschurch.org [ Post Comment ] Comment #11 posted by konagold on August 23, 2006 at 15:43:23 PT: to have, or to sell pot Aloha WhigI am not against the 'so called' illegal growing of pot I AM against proffiteering, and loosing our rights to the gain of the black marketif illegal growers were to give even as little as 10% of their profit to the effort to legalize this herb, it would have been legal a couple of decades agoAlohaRev. Dennis Shields http://thereligionofjesuschurch.org [ Post Comment ] Comment #10 posted by whig on August 23, 2006 at 12:25:52 PT konagold AlohaIs it better in your opinion for people not to have cannabis than for them to have a way to purchase it? I guess part of my cognitive dissonance is that I'm still partially in a Pennsylvania mindset, where there is no legal medical marijuana at all. So even medical users would have to break the law to obtain cannabis, and most can't or won't take the risk to grow it for themselves especially in a city apartment, so they have to go to market for it. [ Post Comment ] Comment #9 posted by FoM on August 23, 2006 at 12:16:31 PT My Honest Opinion on Hemp Why does Hemp have to be low THC? If good medicial marijuana and hemp come from the same harvest that would be a good thing I believe. That would be maximizing the plant I think. [ Post Comment ] Comment #8 posted by konagold on August 23, 2006 at 12:05:07 PT: illegal pot grows Aloha Whigevery ounce illegally sold is sold at a too high price the cost is our rights and our freedomAlohaRev. Dennis Shields http://thereligionofjesuschurch.org [ Post Comment ] Comment #7 posted by whig on August 23, 2006 at 11:59:14 PT konagold Aloha to you.Let them grow high CBD low THC hemp. But you are against outlaw marijuana farmers? I realize that in California there are medical card holders but nobody is authorized to grow for religious users. Some of us are both medical and religious, but the point is that religious users cannot legally grow or obtain cannabis from licensed medical providers. [ Post Comment ] Comment #6 posted by konagold on August 23, 2006 at 11:50:40 PT: hi-lo pot cross pollination Alohathe folks in medicinal growing areas would suffer from low thc rather than the hemp becoming more potentthe males in hemp farming are allowed to grow along side the females, thus outdoor sinsimilla [sp?] med pot plants would become seeded with a low thc cross rather than the other way aroundthe seeds would ruin the buds and the next generation will have much lower thc levelslarge scale hemp farming is the most effective way to combat large scale mobster outdoor pot farmsAloha Rev. Dennis Shields http://thereligionofjesuschurch.org [ Post Comment ] Comment #5 posted by Max Flowers on August 23, 2006 at 09:30:52 PT Mayan They will all be in prison by the end of the year.Nothing would make me happier, Mayan, but seriously, what do you base that prediction on? Trials that would put them there would last a lot longer than that alone. And it's almost September and there isn't even any real inertia that I can see that would put any of them there. The impeachment movement is stalled as far as I can tell. Where do you get that kind of optimism regarding this subject? Do you know something I don't know? Who is the prosecutor who will be trying to take these criminals down, for instance? [ Post Comment ] Comment #4 posted by mayan on August 23, 2006 at 08:29:39 PT Choose Hemp! I imagine Arnold and his handlers will stall until Sept. 30th to act on this bill. This ought to be very interesting! Will Arnold represent the people or the corporate interests? The future is at stake. Lieberman and Murkowski down in flames! The writing is now on the wall and very,very clear. WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH!!! The neo-cons desperately need their "October surprise" as soon as possible but it is already too late for them. They will all be in prison by the end of the year.THE WAY OUT IS THE WAY IN...U.S. Army Intelligence Analyst Targeted For Suggesting New Independent 9/11 Investigation: http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=2006082210535566NM 9/11 Truth Political Tour Thursday 10AM: http://www.911blogger.com/v2/node/2225Alex Jones' TERRORSTORM: Dallas premiere - Aug. 26th: http://www.infowars.com/terrorstorm/dallas/9/11 Litmus Test Debuts: http://911courage.org/linked_docs/bb_01.html9/11 Blogger: http://www.911blogger.com/v2/ [ Post Comment ] Comment #3 posted by FoM on August 23, 2006 at 08:28:30 PT WolfgangWylde I Agree Bye, bye, bye, bye please don't let the door hit you in the whatever! LOL!Happy happy joy joy! [ Post Comment ] Comment #2 posted by WolfgangWylde on August 23, 2006 at 08:25:51 PT As an aside... "Reefer Madness" Murkowski (Governor of Alaska), lost his primary, Buh-bye! [ Post Comment ] Comment #1 posted by FoM on August 23, 2006 at 08:22:11 PT Warren Wilson in Top Pot Spot By John Boyle August 23, 2006 SWANNANOA — To be blunt, it’s not the type of free publicity a college is looking for: No. 1 in the “reefer madness” category.Warren Wilson College took top ranking in that category, which gauges how widely used marijuana is on campus, in the Princeton Review book, “Best 361 Colleges,” on sale today.Snipped:Complete Article: http://www.citizen-times.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=200660822079 [ Post Comment ] Post Comment