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Marijuana Legalization? No Thanks
Posted by CN Staff on July 16, 2006 at 06:21:56 PT
By Guy W. Farmer, Special To The Appeal
Source: Nevada Appeal
Nevada -- When the Appeal last month republished an editorial from Fallon's Lahontan Valley News endorsing a ballot initiative that would legalize small amounts of marijuana, the potheads rejoiced on the Appeal's Web site. But they must have been disappointed a few days later when Editor Barry Ginter reiterated this paper's longtime opposition to drug legalization. "There may be some readers under the impression that the Appeal ... has endorsed a ballot initiative to legalize marijuana," Ginter wrote. "We haven't."
He rejected arguments calling pot a "harmless drug" and favored "whatever option results in the least amount of marijuana being used in Nevada," which sounds reasonable to me. Because, as my loyal readers know, I'm adamantly opposed to the legalization of marijuana and other dangerous drugs.The potheads will surely criticize me yet again for labeling marijuana as a dangerous drug, but don't take my word for it. Earlier this year, studies by Minnesota's respected Mayo Clinic found that regular marijuana use can cause health problems ranging from memory loss to cancer. Specifically, clinic researchers reported that pot smoking can inhibit short-term memory; reduce hand-eye coordination, reaction time and muscle strength; limit attention span; increase the risk of schizophrenia, and may even cause paranoia, anxiety and/or panic attacks. The U.S. Food and Drug Administration reinforced those findings in April by declaring that marijuana has a high potential for abuse, has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the U.S., and has a lack of safety for use under medical supervision. The FDA further determined that pot smoking is harmful and that there are no sound scientific studies supporting the safety or efficacy of "medical" marijuana. Other than that, the drug is completely safe. A recent investigative report by the Des Moines (Iowa) Register warned that "today's marijuana is at least 10 times more potent than it was in the 1970s," and quoted the Iowa Crime Lab as saying that 21st century pot produces "a stronger, longer-lasting high whose effects reach far beyond the so-called 'munchies' and drowsiness" caused by earlier, milder forms of the drug. Iowa Drug Czar Marvin Van Haaften added that today's marijuana contains THC (the main active chemical in the drug) levels of more than 20 percent, compared to average THC levels of two percent in the 1970s. Van Haaften echoed an earlier warning by House Drug Policy Subcommittee Chairman Mark Souder (R-Ind.), who urged Congress to oppose marijuana legalization initiatives in several states, including Nevada. "Marijuana is a gateway drug," he wrote in a letter to fellow lawmakers. "Far from being a 'benign' substance, marijuana is a dangerous, addictive drug that is frequently the first step into the abyss of lifelong drug addiction." He based his comments on a recent study by the University of Otago, New Zealand, Medical School, which concluded that "there is a clear tendency for those using cannabis (marijuana) to have higher rates of usage of other illicit drugs," including methamphetamine, which is destroying lives in Nevada and elsewhere around the country.The Reno Gazette-Journal recently published an in-depth report on the devastating impact of methamphetamine on the youth of Northern Nevada. According to a 2005 survey by the State Bureau of Alcohol and Drug Abuse, some 10 percent of Washoe County high school students and five percent of middle school students had tried meth at least once, creating a pool of thousands of potential teenage meth addicts in our area. But what really got my attention was how many of the young drug users interviewed by the RG-J had experimented with marijuana before turning to meth. The anecdotal evidence that pot is a gateway drug contradicts claims by the Washington, D.C.-based, George Soros-financed Marijuana Policy Project, which is pushing drug legalization initiatives in Nevada and several other states. I'm pleased to report, however, that a similar MPP-sponsored Nevada ballot measure was defeated by a 60-40 margin two years ago and hope that my fellow voters will again say no to drugs in November. The RG-J cited the instructive case of 17-year-old Cyndle Bell, of Carson City, whose tragic story was first made public when the Appeal's Teri Vance wrote that Ms. Bell "started drinking at 11 and smoking pot at 12, before meth almost destroyed her life. Her experience coincides with what local Justice of the Peace John Tatro told me two years ago - that at least half of the meth abusers who appeared in his court also tested positive for marijuana.So let me reiterate a question I posed earlier this year: "If marijuana smoking can lead to the chronic use and abuse of meth and other more addictive drugs, and if meth is the No. 1 law enforcement priority in our city (which it is), what sense does it make to legalize possession of 'small' amounts of marijuana?" None, as far as I can see, which is why I'm encouraged to know that my opinion is shared by many community leaders including Mayor Marv Teixeira and Sheriff Ken Furlong, both of whom have had to deal with meth addiction problems in their own families. I wish them well and offer my support in their high-profile campaign to combat the plague of illegal drugs in Carson City.• Guy W. Farmer, of Carson City, participated in the War on Drugs in seven countries during his 28-year U.S. Foreign Service career.Source: Nevada Appeal (NV)Author: Guy W. Farmer, Special To The AppealPublished: July 16, 2006Copyright: 2006 Nevada AppealContact: appeal tahoe.comWebsite: http://www.nevadaappeal.com/Related Articles & Web Site:Regulate Marijuana in Nevadahttp://www.regulatemarijuana.org/It's Time To Enact New State Marijuana Policyhttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread21936.shtmlNewspaper Endorses Nevada Pot Initiativehttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread21932.shtmlReturn Of The Potheadshttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread21723.shtml
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Comment #105 posted by global_warming on July 20, 2006 at 15:52:24 PT
this world
makes "no" sense,While the Gates have released a gazillion dollars,towards HIV research,May God Bless Bill Gates and his wifes name has illuded my memory, and may God Bless this women person, for these people have donated a large sum of money towards understanding and healing this world.
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Comment #104 posted by FoM on July 20, 2006 at 07:52:23 PT
Nevada Appeal: Letters To The Editor
July 19, 2006 Medical Studies Support Use of Marijuana ***This is in response to Guy Farmer's recent column about marijuana. In it, he refers to studies by the Mayo Clinic, which supposedly show that regular marijuana use can cause cancer. The Mayo Clinic Web site has no information on these studies, and Mr. Farmer didn't say where or when they were published, so I can't really comment on their conclusions. However, I do know of one study about which Mr. Farmer evidently hasn't heard. In the largest case-control study of its kind, a group of researchers at UCLA, led by Dr. Donald Tashkin, found that smoking marijuana, even heavy, long-term use, does not lead to an increased risk of lung, head or neck cancer. Dr. Tashkin presented these findings to the American Thoracic Society International Conference back in May.Dr. Tashkin, who has been studying marijuana for 30 years, was quoted in the May 26, 2006 edition of the Washington Post as saying that the findings "were against our expectations." He also said that, although his team expected to find a positive association between marijuana smoking and cancer, "what we found instead was no association at all, and even a suggestion of some protective effect." The protective effect apparently comes from the chief psychoactive ingredient in marijuana, THC, which seems to kill off aging cells before they can become cancerous. By the way, the same study found a 20-fold increase in lung cancer in people who smoked two or more packs of cigarettes a day. So what we're faced with is an absurd situation where known carcinogens are sold by the carton in every grocery store, while a safer alternative remains illegal.What sense does that make?Christopher BellecyCarson City***Alcohol No Better Than Marijuana***Alcohol legalization? No thanks, it's a legal drug already! Marijuana legalization? No thanks, it's an illegal drug. Different, but the same. One is a liquid, and tied to profits. The other smoked, and tied to profits. Do people need marijuana? No. Do people need alcohol? No. Do either of these drugs cause problems? Yes, both do. Does marijuana alter perception? Yes. Does alcohol alter perception? Yes. Is driving a motor vehicle under the influence of marijuana illegal? Yes. Is driving under the influence of alcohol illegal? Yes. Can people get addicted to these drugs? Yes. What is the difference, from a lawful standpoint? You can get drunk by buying alcohol in stores. You cannot get stoned by buying marijuana in stores. But you can still buy it. Alcohol abuse ruins lives. Marijuana abuse ruins lives. What do we not understand? Or is it about the money, and not what is best for everyone concerned? Make alcohol illegal. Imagine, no more drunken-driving arrests, or court/police time involved, and the number of lives that could be saved. Any drug that alters perception should only be prescribed by licensed physicians, alcohol included. Lastly, does marijuana have any medical uses? Maybe. Does alcohol have any medical uses, besides sterilizing injection sites? Maybe. The fact remains, both can be very dangerous. This is what they have in common. Both alter one's mind, both degrade the user's physical self, both change one's view of the world about them, both render an individual incapable of operating machinery, both are detrimental to one's overall view of daily functioning. It's time to make alcohol illegal, the same way marijuana is.John MetzCarson CityCopyright: 2006 Nevada Appealhttp://www.nevadaappeal.com/article/20060719/OPINION/107190060/0/FRONTPAGE
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Comment #103 posted by afterburner on July 19, 2006 at 23:08:22 PT
museman #96 & 98
"The formula for change is faith that the Spirit has got it under control, and the willingness and effort to look for and find opportunity to practice love."I happened upon the following passage "by chance": John 14:1 (New International Version) "Do not let your hearts be troubled. Trust in God; trust also in me."It gives me the sort of trust in the Spirit and faith over fear that you mention. God is love, and we were created in His image.Your description of your empathic nature rings a bell with me, the hermit-like need for solitude and the sense of fulfilling destiny in a crowd of believers in that same Spirit of Love.
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Comment #102 posted by FoM on July 19, 2006 at 21:26:58 PT
Ekim
I don't have a T-Shirt with any logo for CNews. I think I'll just wear something plain. I'm not good at self promoting. I never have been. You see I'm very shy.
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Comment #101 posted by ekim on July 19, 2006 at 21:18:52 PT
FoM did you ever talk to Stick about the sticher
will you guys be wearing a cnews logo. i wonder if all you guys wore some sort of cnews logo how many would know what it ment cause you have like so many hits here. you guys are all comen from all over it could be fun to see how each designed the logo. i wish you could print it here so that for sure those that go would know it. good nite
http://www.magiceye.com/3d
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Comment #100 posted by whig on July 19, 2006 at 20:47:02 PT
museman
Amen.
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Comment #99 posted by FoM on July 19, 2006 at 18:38:57 PT
museman
Amazing. I understand too.
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Comment #98 posted by museman on July 19, 2006 at 18:17:08 PT
FoM
It's even better than that! It's not a circle that is revolving, but an upward spiral. The ancient binding of Orboros has been loosed. In the era of the youth of the boomer generation -our generation- there was a pouring out of Spirit. That manifested in many ways. Some of the most notable were the 'psychedelic revolution' the 'peace movement' the 'environmental movement' etc. That same pouring out was experienced in different ways here in America, as well as the rest of the world.The only reason why there was any center to any of it, is because of the source. In my opinion we handled our Spiritual assets rather badly, so badly I have only recently fortgiven us all (and myself) for falling so short. As humanity some of us did give it our best, who can say the number, for I know the best work of the Spirit is done out of the spotlight of the world. There are great works of art, drama, and music expressing both the struggle and revelations of that important mini-age, and an embryonic consciousness that grew out it. That was another age. One I knew well as a Piscean.This upward spiral of consciousness that is paralelling the downward spiral of destructive forms of thought and action, is something new. Maybe not new in the Grand Scheme, maybe not even new to humanity -if our original history was understood, but new enough to BE new for us.I recently had an experience which was to me one of the most wonderful in my life; I came into the fullness of my being by my own acceptance, faith and belief, a willingness to do so, and no fear. I ACHIEVED A STATE OF NO FEAR!!!I'd had similar experiences before, yet they had all been attached to the sacramental usage of a few psychoactives I was very familiar and comfortable with. This experience was natural. I sensed it and opened to it. In all my knowledge of the language words do fail to express the feeling and presence of it. It was/is us. A great big wondering Spiritual Baby just beginning to be aware of itself. There have been incredible efforts on the part of powers and principalities to stifle, stop, murder, sabotage, re-program, misdirect, and in general prevent this meta-physical 'child' from being born. But they are too late.The 'Messiah has returned' and WE are THOSE "who will do greater things that these..."This is My language, my choice of terms. My concern is not of a semantic connotation, but of an intrinsic idea. I use the best terms I have.In any case, once again, like in the '60s era, there is an outpouring of Spirit going on. People will experience it in their own way. The fact that world destruction appears imminent definitely lends image and scope to the general human discussion. As folks begin to realize the actual power of conscious alignment with the collective will (of man and the earth -man being somewhat limited right now), and the Creator Spirit, the power of faith and belief plugged into the correct spiritual matrix will show the way. As I said words just fail sometimes.I started with a small intuitive knack; the ability to sense a police officer minnutes before they see me. At first I thought it was just a weird coincidence, but after a few times I decided to trust it. That talent got finely honed. Knowing that that 'talent' was real and possible, made it easier for other aspects of the intuitive "psychic" mind to come into my understanding. I am what some call an 'empath'. It has caused me much trouble, confusion, and un-necessary suffering (because of mine and everyone elses ignorance), but it has also been at the core of my art, and my Spiritual beliefs, and experiences. I learned to 'bind it up' and keep it hidden. If it weren't for music and performing, I might never have had any social interaction at all. I developed phobias.Marijuana enhances that abilty so greatly, that going out in public while high for me was like a trip through Dantes Inferno.But something has happened. We have crossed over ages. We are on the virge of a Real new age, and when that crimped and bound lotus of feeling and understanding was allowed to spread to it's full capacity -like an intuitive satellite dish- I felt us coming of age. I merged with the baby-like awareness, and shared the wonder, and knew it to be true.Coming back to babylon, I have unwittingly watched the flower fold itself back to a less receptive, but protective/defensive position. I could not keep the petals open, and depression threatened. I understand now, and it's only logical that this should be. However the awareness is there, and when we come together and gather for great and good cause, it will grow more and more, until even the most wilfully stubborn mentality will have to witness greatness, and acceed to it's 'better offer.'
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Comment #97 posted by FoM on July 19, 2006 at 17:09:40 PT
museman
You are a really good person. My husband and I are in a building mode so we just sat and talked about a community for our generation like I mentioned before. I can see this idea as clear as day. I never have known how I was going to do something much before I actually did it but I just keep pushng along in faith. Faith with action has always been good for me. I know where we are so I really hope that more people start thinking about how will we take care of our generation when the time comes. It goes right back to the hippie culture and it's ideals. It's coming full circle.
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Comment #96 posted by museman on July 19, 2006 at 16:09:26 PT
Hope
I am honored and humbled, and the child in me thanks you for it. The price of wisdom includes much pain (in this reality)many mistakes, and error. As anyone I struggle daily with the fear and failure that scritches at my window like some kind of hollywood vampire trying to get me to let it in. And like most anyone, I've done my dance on the 'dark side', willingly and not so willingly.I have found my own victory, so I believe profoundly in the unsuppported, latent talents of humanity -directly related to Spirit- and the un-claimed power to change this world.The power of prayer and faith is underscored at the basic level, by an un-natural fear that those are not real, that the religion (and 'faith and belief') itself is one big put-on, an escapists fantasy to avoid the inevitable oblivion. This fear is written into everything that man has 'accomplished' from kingdoms and states to corporate domain.The Living Aspect of Spirit which is embodied (over-all) here and there amongst us, is ignored or pounded into some kind of submission or insanity. However that which Y'shua referred to as "The Living Word" (that xtianity twisted into 'the bible') does exist. The formula for change is faith that the Spirit has got it under control, and the willingness and effort to look for and find opportunity to practice love. No politics or money involved-except as the failing principalities force it upon us - Caesars coins.
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Comment #95 posted by FoM on July 19, 2006 at 15:15:05 PT
afterburner
We got the ticket ordered. We are still working on our house. We moved everything into our new living room today. I have in wall speakers that are 100 watts each and two floor speakers we've had for years (Stick bought them while in Vietnam) and they are 150 watts each. So I have 4 speakers cranked up and I'm listening to LWW. It doesn't get much better then this except the live concert.
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Comment #94 posted by Its_only_a_plant on July 19, 2006 at 14:26:40 PT
Gateway theory contradicted once again
"..the instructive case of 17-year-old Cyndle Bell, of Carson City, whose tragic story was first made public when the Appeal's Teri Vance wrote that Ms. Bell "started drinking at 11 and smoking pot at 12, before meth almost destroyed her life."Hmm, it appears MJ wasn't the gateway in the unfortunate case of Ms. Cyndle Bell, once again the gateway arguement doesn't hold much water, it took Ms. Bell a whole year to graduate to MJ from booze... interesting. I'm sure if the other "meth abusers" were polled one might find alcohol was also their gateway to their current situation NOT MJ. I find it funny that everytime prohibitionists try to argue MJ as the great gateway they ALWAYS contradict themsevles by stating alcohol came before MJ in their so-called case studies of poor misfortunate doomed souls.
"Her experience coincides with what local Justice of the Peace John Tatro told me two years ago - that at least half of the meth abusers who appeared in his court also tested positive for marijuana.
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Comment #93 posted by FoM on July 19, 2006 at 11:14:38 PT
Truth
They are filming the three nights at Red Rocks for a DVD release for Christmas. I am really glad about that. I loved Greendale but they never released a DVD of any of those concerts. I am so excited about seeing CSNY two times within a two week period. I'll still be floating around somewhere in the sky from the first one when we get to the second and final show on the tour. I'll never come down. I'll never come down! LOL!http://www.redrocksonline.com/
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Comment #92 posted by Hope on July 19, 2006 at 09:14:39 PT
I vehemently disagree with his comment, too.
What contrast? Seems to me like the Declaration of Independence and the scent of cannabis are a perfect match an in no way "contrast" with each other. They are both about declaring our freedom.
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Comment #91 posted by afterburner on July 19, 2006 at 09:06:26 PT
Truth - No Contrast, Indeed!
"George Washington and Thomas Jefferson both grew hemp. Ben Franklin owned a mill that made hemp paper. *Jefferson drafted the Declaration of Independence on hemp paper*." --Hemp Facts
http://www.naihc.org/hemp_information/hemp_facts.html
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Comment #90 posted by Hope on July 19, 2006 at 09:04:28 PT
Those of us who pray
should not forget Marc Emery. I'm so afraid for him...which lends to passionate and humble prayer. "Pray without ceasing." Love and gentleness doesn't work like a cataclysmic event as much as I'd like to see people love us and allow us our freedom...there are some hideously hard hearts and stiff necks out there.Actually, I'm afraid for all of us and everyone. That, for me is what it's all about. The injustice of the way my people are treated is beyond bearing...so I have to 'Put the weight right on Him' and stand firm and fully clothed and shod with the Armor of God.
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Comment #89 posted by Hope on July 19, 2006 at 08:49:20 PT
Museman
I thank God for you. You are such a beautiful spiritual man and your testimony is a touching and beautiful tribute to our God.Thank you very much.The Spirit in me identifies with the Spirit that is in you. They are One.As far as I'm concerned, some people are easier to love than others, sadly...but, for sure...you are one of the easier to love. I love your spirit. Your soul and spirit are so clean and bright and pure. What a lovely Grace. Meeting you on these pages as been another lovely Grace for me and others. Thank you.
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Comment #88 posted by Truth on July 19, 2006 at 08:34:31 PT
quote from the Denver Post
"A blown-up photo of the Declaration of Independence lined the stage, providing an interesting contrast to the omnipresent odor of marijuana in the venue."There should not be a contrast. That important document is supposed to protect our freedom, our liberty. george seems to have forgotten the basics as did the author of the article. Freedom means just that.
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Comment #87 posted by FoM on July 19, 2006 at 08:24:58 PT
afterburner
We will have such a great time. This concert is great for our times. At first I wasn't sure about a CSNY tour but this tour is perfect. Here's a set list that seems to be about the order they are playing the songs.http://www.csny.com/node/255
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Comment #86 posted by afterburner on July 19, 2006 at 07:48:53 PT
Ta, FoM
Many thanks for all you do and for being a such good friend.It was genius of Neil to tour with CSN instead of Crazy Horse (even though I'd love to hear and see them live in concert). This way more people are exposed to the necessity for campaigning for "Freedom of Speech." CSNY are Elders of Music, not fogies.The slideshow is great. It's in my favorites, now. Neil sure is pushing the boundaries of the Internet as the latest greatest media source!
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Comment #85 posted by ekim on July 19, 2006 at 07:31:48 PT
anyone able to help book LEAP speaking events
No one to do this work. We don't have any speakers bureau coordinators.
No one is booking speakers...dunno why, but I can't talk anyone into doing
this very important work.
Maybe we'll be able to pay people in the near future but I'm too busy.
Just can't do it all.
Mike Mike Smithson
Speakers Bureau Coordinator
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition
131 Flint Path, Syracuse, New York 13219-3403
speakers leap.cc http://www.leap.cc
Cell: 315-243-5844 Fax: 315-488-3630"First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist, so I said
nothing. Then they came for the Social Democrats, but I was not a Social
Democrat, so I did nothing. Then came the trade unionists, but I was not a
trade unionist. And then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew, so I
did little. Then when they came for me, there was no one left to stand up
for me." German Protestant Pastor Martin Niemöller 1892-1984-----Original Message-----
From:
Sent: Sunday, July 16, 2006 8:22 PM
To: Mike Smithson
Subject: map of csnyHere is a very good tour map. If you know someone in LEAP or CTC pass it on.http://www.neilyoung.com/lwwtoday/csnymappage.html
http://www.leap.cc/events
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Comment #84 posted by FoM on July 19, 2006 at 07:10:46 PT
afterburner
Here's a slideshow from Red Rocks last night. I am getting your ticket today. The construction guys aren't working today so I can catch my breath and do a few things I need to get done. The reviews are great on this tour. I can't put into words what this tour means to me with the escalation of the war in the middle east. I don't hate many things but killing women and children really gets to me. I don't see any purpose to this war. How long until our troops are involved? I hope never.http://www.csny.com/photos/15
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Comment #83 posted by FoM on July 18, 2006 at 19:50:34 PT
afterburner
I'm sorry that I might be right on this one but I just believe that the Olympics are very important to Canada and they want to clean up BC so that Canada gets great praise for the Olympics. The Olympics mean lots of money and prestige for Vancouver and Canada.
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Comment #82 posted by afterburner on July 18, 2006 at 19:07:27 PT
FoM: Your Intuition about Olympics Was Spot On
CN BC: OPED: Vancouver Should Sit Up, Take Notice
http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/story.html?id=0848921d-e6dd-4b52-8522-02039d077126
http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v06/n940/a02.html
http://www.mapinc.org/ccnews/v06/n940/a02.html
(Mon, 17 Jul 2006)
Vancouver Sun (CN BC)
It's typical and pathetic that the prohibitionists are using Marc Emery, a champion of the peaceful herb, as a scapegoat for all the hard-drug addict dropouts. (The same thing happened to Dr. Timothy Leary regarding LSD and other psychedelics: Leary was also blamed for all the hard-drug addict dropouts.) Marc is just as much against hard drugs as the PTBs *say* they are. His own son was addicted to hard drugs. And Marc supported the Iboga Therapy House to help drug addicts overcome their addiction!
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Comment #81 posted by FoM on July 18, 2006 at 18:40:42 PT
afterburner
Yes that's what it was an Inner Journey. Very well put. I am looking forward to CSNY too. I'm glad Stills is ok and they can continue. He fell hard it looks like in the picture I saw.
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Comment #80 posted by afterburner on July 18, 2006 at 18:28:54 PT
Good News
US CA: Column: Officials Take Pot (Road) Trip
http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v06/n941/a02.html
Newshawk: Dale Gieringer
(Fri, 14 Jul 2006)
Record, The (Stockton, CA)They liked what they saw.FoM #79: The '60s were all about an inner journey, anyway. The festivals were just ways of sharing the inner peace with others of like mind in the midst of the hatred and fears that characterize war. I'm so looking forward to the CSNY concert, and I'm glad that Stephen Stills is able to continue to tour.
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Comment #79 posted by FoM on July 18, 2006 at 18:03:41 PT
afterburner
I didn't do most of the things in the article. I wasn't a hippie on the outside but inside I was. It was a time in history that went from one extreme to another and there was a feeling of change in the air. Interesting review from Red Rocks.Neil Young Carries Show at Red Rocks***His vigorous guitar and vocals led Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young in a triumphant performance before a mixed-age crowd.By John Wenzel,
Denver Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, July 18, 2006
Lightning, wind and the occasional burst of rain failed to repress the crowd at Monday night's sold-out Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young concert at Red Rocks Amphitheatre. The performance, the first of three at the iconic venue, bristled with a mixed-age energy that attested to the band's cross-generational appeal. Out of all the performers, Neil Young has remained the most vigorous, experimental and consistently visible. Clearly this was his show. The set vacillated between tracks from his anti-Bush album, "Living with War," and classic CSN&Y tracks that seemed barely tarnished by the brush of time. The musical interplay was often centered on Young, his guitar and vocals noticeably louder in the mix than the rest of the band. By the third song he was soloing like crazy, matching licks with his compatriots and leaning forward in his uniquely precarious way. The band's trademark vocal harmonies felt as crisp, smooth and strong as the $7 Fat Tires the mini-bars sold throughout the venue. CSN&Y often ended songs on a minor down-note, bringing into relief the oft-imitated but misdirected homages to them floating around in the classic-rock world. A blown-up photo of the Declaration of Independence lined the stage, providing an interesting contrast to the omnipresent odor of marijuana in the venue.
Complete Article: http://www.denverpost.com/ci_4064314?source=rss
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Comment #78 posted by afterburner on July 18, 2006 at 17:48:06 PT
WOD: The 1st Duty of a Captured Soldier Is Escape
CN ON: Column: Boomers Embellish High Times, London Free Press, (15 Jul 2006)
http://www.mapinc.org/newstcl/v06/n940/a04.html?176
And this article underestimates us.
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Comment #77 posted by global_warming on July 18, 2006 at 15:30:22 PT
there was that cross
some Jewish carpenter,with the rough hands of a working 'man
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Comment #76 posted by global_warming on July 18, 2006 at 15:15:33 PT
if you got food
and money, maybe you can make it just a little bit further,as long as your breath,can inhale your placeat the foot of the crossthere is a place at the TableIn this Universe
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Comment #75 posted by global_warming on July 18, 2006 at 15:04:14 PT
what a wonderfull
fucking world
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Comment #74 posted by global_warming on July 18, 2006 at 14:58:43 PT
and I think to my self
what a wonderful world
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Comment #73 posted by global_warming on July 18, 2006 at 14:36:29 PT
re: cnews 70
Is that you mm? This reads like an epistle of the olden Christians, it is wonderful scripture, May God Bless You and Light Your Eternal Path."Do you want me to bow my head to the dictator? I will do so, and so render unto Caesar that which is his. I will not be crucified for the sake of demonstrating my independence. But when Caesar rules, I shall give his ruling the deference it deserves -- none at all." wgYou may pray to God in your secret place, and you may wag your tongue in some secret place, but, someday, we all have to come before the court of this world.May God Bless You wg, and Light Your Eternal Path.
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Comment #72 posted by museman on July 18, 2006 at 13:33:39 PT
whig
Absolutely. I certainly do not advocate foolishness. However there is a point where fear stops and faith begins. Both have power of influence, and ultimately it is up to the individual to decide just how far they are willing to be pushed. In all my dealings with the man, and the magistrates (more than the two I mentioned by the way) one thing stands out clear and true; (at least in my experience) if you are truly innocent, and (here's the clincher) your faith is solid, then the power of the lie must give way to the power of the truth. Let me further literate;As an example of my innocence; many years ago I was growing my stash in the midst of the war, helicopters, cops on horseback, BLM and forest service roaming the woods in search- very crowded skies and woods- so much so that I actually began to wonder if maybe I'd made a mistake somewhere in my thinking concerning the herb, and maybe, just maybe, the Great Spirit was trying to tell me (us)something. So I prayed. A lot. It took some time of course, but finally the answer came (there are many "religious" folk who would deny that such a thing is possible) as a dialogue in one of my prayers.In my experience with "asking the Father" for bread, I have never recieved a stone.Most of the answers come to me as questions, pointing my understanding towards the answer, but not defining it. In this case it was about whether I was going to consider the herb as Sacred, as Sacrament (as well as Medicine), or as a commodity to be marketed.I understood the question because it was really about my faith and belief. I chose the belief that marijuana is a Holy Sacrament, not a commodity. This does not mean that I have any judgement against those who consider the herb more by weights and measure, quality vs price, but that I myself have chosen to treat my growing, posession, and usage in a sacred manner.This choice had an immediate effect; that very day my intutitive flags were waving that a bust was imminent, because of one neighbbor whose greed far outstretched their sense. I and my growing partner moved 50+ budding plants in the light of the moon. We also decided to move our busses to a new location. In the middle of our move the next day, the bust came down. We were questioned and searched, but thanks to FAITH and BELIEF I had listened to my inner voice, and we were spared. Had a decent harvest a month or so later.A few years later I stood in freezing temperatures with my family while the cops and their dog searched my house and yard. We were all praying mightily during this. I was arrested on a felony posession -(which was one of the many legal errors the cops made)- based on what I volunteered to them; my less than an ounce stash, and about 4 ozs of crap leaf I'd forgotten about - I gave this to them. They and their dog could find -in over 4 hours of searching- only one tiny roach in my bedroom (which they paraded by us like some kind of trophy).The long and short of it was this;They did not find my stash, the amount of which was large enough by state and federal 'law' to put me away for a few years. SUch was my belief and faith in my innocence (no guilt of 'wrong doing') that I informed my P.D. that if he wasn't willing to go to the Supreme Court then he should let me know so I could fire him. He made an agreement wiht me that should certain conditions be met in one aspect of the investigation that was going on by the State Bureau of Investigation, that he would do so. Those conditions (which I don't elaborate to keep the story from identifiable specifics) were met.Rather than go to the Supreme Court, the P.D. chose to attack the warrant, and succeeded. My plea bargain amounted to an acceptable non-felony 'slap-on-the-wrist.'During that period of nearly a year, from bust to 'sentencing' I prayed A LOT!Of course this whole thing could be tossed off by those who'd rather believe in the power of fear as 'luck.' Perhaps so. I believe that this 'luck' is a direct effect of my faith, and my deliberate actions and responses based thoroughly without doubt or question on that faith. If this example were the only one in my life of pursuing the understanding, and knowledge of my faith (an ongoing evolving process) then I would have to admit to the possibility of 'happenstance' and 'luck' but since my entire life is marked by the milestones of such experiences, when I speak of Faith, and Belief I am talking about power which IS STRONGER than fear.Did I give anything at all to these monsters who have invaded Gods creation? Only what was necessary to satisfy their enforcable law - name-rank-and-serial-number and a lot of testifying about the truth -which always makes 'em uncomfortable. I rendered to Caesar ONLY WHAT IS HIS and I make it a point to carry Caesars stuff as little as possible.
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Comment #71 posted by whig on July 18, 2006 at 12:41:54 PT
museman
I agree that we cannot have freedom if we humbly petition for it. To subjugate ourselves and then ask that we be treated with respect and dignity is a contradiction. But by the same token, to openly defy authority is to invite a political response that will harm ourselves.What I have learned to do, and what I earnestly advocate for ourselves, is to feign submission, and then to do as we know to be right.Do you want me to bow my head to the dictator? I will do so, and so render unto Caesar that which is his. I will not be crucified for the sake of demonstrating my independence. But when Caesar rules, I shall give his ruling the deference it deserves -- none at all.I believe that Truth and Honesty are the best policy when dealing with anyone who will not do you harm for it. But when the penalty for Truth is imprisonment or death, you may speak falsely. When the State demands you render an accounting of yourself, you do not have any obligation to comply. When Caesar demands you confess yourself, you need not do so. For it is not a duty you owe to criminals.No Free Rides: http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/001155.php
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Comment #70 posted by museman on July 18, 2006 at 12:02:50 PT
statistics
They were invented by the status quo. The status quo was invented by the empowered politic-which also happens to be the invention of the upper 3% of the wealthy class.Money and power are the credos of these. The supporting roles are cast for such kneeling bootlickers as Ginter and Souder-true clones of Anslinger.The powers say the Emperor is clothed in the finest logic, the undeniable facts, and divine appointment. They are willing to go to war, imprison anyone, poison our air, our cities, and our rural communities. They will spend millions on making the lie look good, (the truth is free by the way) and the destruction, disease and death promoted and actuated by their greed and inhumanity is of such proportion that even the lesser of their creed are starting to get worried.They will go down in denial. As they breathe their last edict, and enforce their last injustice upon us, the moment of our resolution and evolution into lighter shades of reality will see them fade and disappear.Until then the contest is theirs. The game is of their choosing, and all who enter into it only give themselves over as game pieces to be maneuvered as they see fit. Their pretext and logic is an unmoving wall which has no faculty of true reason or human understanding. Their redundant claims are graffiti on that wall, and the arrangement is the same whitewashed images that were originally painted there in the '30's.Back in the '60's and '70's the reps of the status quo used to say to us 'revolutionaries,' "If you want to change the system, do it from within." So we tried. Some successes were achieved (or at least in retrospect they SEEMED to be achieved) during the Clinton administration, painstakingly. Some people spent their entire life laboring for common sense, and the common man in politics, only to watch the current monkey regime wipe it all out with a stroke of his pen.I once stared down a wannabe politician, looked him in the eyes, and even though I'd spent months canvasing, postering, and campaigning for the guy - when I looked in his eyes I saw a politician all right, but no humanity to speak of, just the overwhelming desire to part of the right club. To date I've seen none that weren't of the same caliber. That guy did go on to be a senator in Ca for many years, but he never did anything for anyone, just sat in office and played the game -like all the rest.2 times I have stood before the judge and defended my God-given rights to self determination - including my choice to smoke herb, and I know this; Truth, Faith, and Belief are the ONLY REAL tools we have to deal with this situation - even demons must acknowledge Truth when it is elevated on the platform of Faith and Belief. Law, as it is currently statued, denies the First Precedent of all Law- which is the existence and supreme authority of God. The judges, lawyers, and politicians are thus falsely claiming their authority, and ultimately all anyone has to do is not buy into their system, don't enter into their game. The solution is simple, if supremely difficult; start governing ourselves, start standing up in our sovereignty as human beings, and stop giving in to the lie, and certainly don't waste your time bashing your head against their wall. There is plenty to be done, right outside your own door. If positive actions are accumulative enough, displacement of the negative will occur. Right is right, and Truth is truth. We have both in this war on enlightenment called W.O.D. We will not find a 'political champion' because the corruption necessary to belong to that club precludes it. Our champion resides within each and every one of us waiting to stand up in the light and reclaim our natural and inherent human rights defined as "free will." The only LAW that I recognize as valid is the LAW of LOVE. If that law is not represented then the authority is not present, and they'll just have to shoot me because I refuse to see anythihg other than an ugly, naked emporer who looks a lot like a flea-infested monkey.
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Comment #69 posted by FoM on July 18, 2006 at 06:08:17 PT
Taylor121
I think he would be really good for Texas and I hope he wins.
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Comment #68 posted by Taylor121 on July 18, 2006 at 02:30:49 PT
Kinky
I'm voting for Kinky this Fall. I recommend all Texans that want to the drug war excesses curbed do the same. I was following Kinky's campaign before it came more formal, and he was all for allowing people to smoke whatever they choose. I'm sure he would be willing to cut marijuana consumers a break by supporting the decrim bills introduced every 2 years.
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Comment #67 posted by FoM on July 17, 2006 at 17:05:54 PT
I Just Want To Mention Something
We are having windows and siding siding put on our house and they will be ready to start on the wall with my 2 satellite dishes in the next few days weather permitting. I am concerned when we move the satellites particularly the one for my computer that we might have trouble getting it tracked in. We know how to track the one but the other I'm not sure at all. If I wouldn't show up for a few days it would be because we can't get it on right and would have to find and wait for a technician. Hopefully it will go smoothly but it's best to let you all know. I'll mention it again when they are close to needing to take down the dishes and siding.
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Comment #66 posted by BGreen on July 17, 2006 at 16:43:59 PT
rchandar
Try searching for tickets for flights in September. We're flying to Amsterdam in September from the middle of the US and paid less than you're talking.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #65 posted by rchandar on July 17, 2006 at 16:28:52 PT:
airline greed prevents us travel to europe
hello--those of you wanting to go to Amsterdam, Paris, London, Rome, Prague, forget it. Unless you drive a hummer and have a six-digit bank account, airlines do not want you to go there.this I have found after weeks of urgent research looking for a deal. Roundtrip flights from anywhere in the US to Europe--any city, are at lowest about $950. It's not that we haven't looked either--I've checked on a daily basis all the avenues--expedia, flyamsterdam, consolidators--it's a total lock-out, dude. No Europe fare lower than $950. All the airlines have are some bogus promotions--cheap fare to the places that, in the summer, we want to stay away from. Like North Carolina? Alabama? We can get you there for cheap! It's so bogus--I'll look for spiritual redemption when my wallet is fatter. In the meantime, eat your pie of Bush crap.--rchandar
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Comment #64 posted by Sam Adams on July 17, 2006 at 14:01:33 PT
Cato
Ekim,thanks for posting, I am reading the compelling study right now.
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Comment #63 posted by JR Bob Dobbs on July 17, 2006 at 12:25:55 PT
My favorite independant candidate for 2006
I'm sweltering right now in the north, I can't imagine what it's like in Texas - but it'd almost be worth the heat to be able to vote for Kinky Friedman. I don't think the drug war is his top priority, but he's good friends with Willie Nelson so he's got to be on our side.I'm also really proud of the work Loretta Nall's doing in Alabama...
Kinky Friedman in 2006 - "Why the hell not?"
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Comment #62 posted by ekim on July 17, 2006 at 11:56:13 PT
AB i see that Pete has a little info on his site
at www.drugwarrant.com as far as a nationl candidate i do not have anyinfo at the moment. i know that local interest here in MI is going on if i see anything i will get it to you. Norml has had a record of how those in power have voted, but i feel you want to know who is new and running. i hope others see your question and together we can come up with some suggestions.
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Comment #61 posted by afterburner on July 17, 2006 at 11:38:58 PT
ekim
I'm looking for write-in candidates for the November 2006 election. Persons active in hemp promotion or medical cannabis would send a clear message to Congress and/or States. Any suggestions?
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Comment #60 posted by ekim on July 17, 2006 at 11:30:26 PT
Rise of Paramilitary Police Raids in America
Overkill: The Rise of Paramilitary Police Raids in America
http://blogs.salon.com/0002762/
Radley Balko's long-awaited white paper has been released today.
You can read it for free as a downloadable 1.6 MB pdf at the CATO Institute, or purchase "the slick bound copy" at the bookstore for just $10. (the CATO bookstore seems to be having some problems right now -- hopefully that will be fixed shortly. I want copies to give to people.)This is an extremely well-researched paper, with way too many documented sad examples of overkill, and some well-though-out conclusions about police raids.This will be a very important document in the fight to restore law enforcement to its proper functions.
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Comment #59 posted by afterburner on July 17, 2006 at 09:53:15 PT
Good Start, Toker00
CN AB: Book Review: Come On, Just Legalize It!, FFWD, (13 Jul 2006)
http://www.mapinc.org/newstcl/v06/n933/a06.html?176
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Comment #58 posted by Toker00 on July 17, 2006 at 09:32:39 PT
Bumper stickers.
1. Be Wise. Vaporize. 2. Stop the Hate and Regulate. 3. Legal Drugs Are Dangerous.
Are Your Children Hooked? 4. End Cannabis Prohibition Now! 5. Pot Doesn't Kill People, Prohibition Kills People! 6. Tax The Pot And Free The People! 7. Cannabis/Hemp Laws Are Unjustifiable ! 8. Prohibit Pain, Not Pot. 9. Stop Smoking Pot! Vaporize Instead.10. Cannabis/Hemp: The answer to a lot of Questions.Not very creative, but you asked. :)Toke.
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Comment #57 posted by afterburner on July 17, 2006 at 07:46:09 PT
unkat27 #53
I agree 100%! When I first started commenting I got fairly heavily involved in debating the prohibitionists point by point. I grew to feel that this is playing their game. Now, I spend most of my time and comments building a positive hemp and cannabis future. However, sometimes one of their statements just sticks in my craw, like in this article: They see a "gateway" from "pot/marijuana" *where the victim actually started with drinking alcohol*! The "gateway" is BUNK, mad science, and all informed people know that! Chip chip chip. The PTSD theory attributes drug abuse to negative emotional experiences that "haunt" victims and make them seek solace in chemical relief. Not to specific drugs or plants."The Pusher don't care if you live or die." Legalize and regulate. Stop passing and maintaining laws that protect the Pusher, the black market, and ill-gotten gains at the expense to society."Gateway back" is a reformer argument that cannabis can help people avoid alcohol. True, but weak argument, because all the prohibitionists and their sheeple hear is "gateway." We need to set the agenda ourselves:Safer"Global ganja culture should now be going on the offensive. We have the prohibitionists on the run, we have momentum and public opinion on our side, and we must articulate a vision of how we want our culture and our plant defined in the new millennium."- Dana Larsen, Editor of Cannabis CultureLegalize Regulate Medicate Educate
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Comment #56 posted by afterburner on July 17, 2006 at 06:53:49 PT
potpal
"Well, now I'm wondering cafepress's take on it and whether they have guidelines and such...just a thought."They do have guidelines. However, I've had "Marc Emery: Summer of Legalization" T-Shirts on CafePress since March 2005, and they have not offered any content objections, just tons of promotional emails. You should see some of the political slogans on CafePress.
afterburners_cafe
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Comment #55 posted by whig on July 17, 2006 at 06:25:31 PT
Calif legislature considers legalizing hemp
http://tinyurl.com/gkt22Excerpt:If nothing else, this bill shows it is possible for two legislators of diametrically opposite ideologies to acknowledge some common ground and work together to change public policy.Both agree that hemp — advocates call it industrial hemp — is taking off worldwide as a plant used for fiber (in car door panels, for example), food (energy bars, granola, smoothies) and body care (shampoos, soaps).And they think it's illogical that the federal government allows the importation of foreign hemp for American manufacturing into legally sold products, but bans the growing of hemp by American farmers. So they're trying to force the issue.Their bill would sanction the growing of hemp in California for sale within the state, but forbid interstate commerce of "viable" seeds — those that can germinate — in an effort to keep the feds from nosing around. No doubt federal courts ultimately would sort it all out.The bill also would define hemp, under California law, as a safe crop, not a drug.
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Comment #54 posted by FoM on July 17, 2006 at 06:23:00 PT
Afterburner
I saw the episode where they went to Daryl Hannah's home on the CoolFuel Roadtrip. I don't remember where I saw it but I totally enjoyed it. I read where when we see the coaches, all 17 or 18 of them, at the Freedom of Speech tour it smells like a county fair. They all are burning bio-diesel.
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Comment #53 posted by unkat27 on July 17, 2006 at 06:12:10 PT
Re: #45
I can see that this argument still fails to get through to the prohibitionist lot. Afterburner, I do realize what you are saying, but imo, why not hit them with the straight dope? Getting involved in trying to contradict their twisted logic only leads to more confusion.The FACT is, cannabis only serves as a gateway so long as it is illegal, because the illegal drug dealers all attend the same parties. A pusher is only interested in $$$$$$$$$, and will always take an opportunity to sell his stuff to cannabis users, no matter how potent or dangerous it is, and the pusher will always lead the cannabis user to think that the harder drugs he/she is selling are just another wonderful high, usually "better" than cannabis.The poor dumb fools who buy the BS from the pusher, are especially susceptible to trying harder drugs (such as meth) when cannabis is not available (thanks to its illegality), and before they realize what is happening to them, they are addicted and becoming poster children for the "war on drugs" and the prohibitionists.By legalizing cannabis, it is taken out of the hands of illegal drug dealers and put into the hands of responsible business people, who would never "push" hard illegal drugs on anyone, because it could destroy them and their business.Cannabis is not the "Gateway" to harder drugs, the illegal drug dealer is.
Problems of Illegal Cannabis Outweigh Legal Cannabis
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Comment #52 posted by FoM on July 17, 2006 at 06:08:27 PT
Just a Comment
If Farmer is a Democrat then I am a Republican and that is far from the truth. I am really glad I am not into politics because all they are is how can we win and smear the other party. I believe winning should be based on merit and that's all.
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Comment #51 posted by whig on July 17, 2006 at 06:00:55 PT
potpal
Consider using Zazzle instead of Cafepress. I found it easier to use in some ways and also people who like your designs can customize them online if they want.
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Comment #50 posted by whig on July 17, 2006 at 05:55:39 PT
Medical Marijuana Mi
In calling himself a "Scoop" Jackson Democrat, Guy Farmer is declaring himself rather explicitly to be a Neocon.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_M._Jackson
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Comment #49 posted by ekim on July 17, 2006 at 05:46:16 PT
good info Afterburner thank you for your hard work
http://users.erols.com/iri/cofe.html
Second International Conference On Future Energy“Technology transformation by the uncovering of new energy sources is a dominant global issue”Emerging energy, field propulsion, fission & fusion, space tech, energy medicine, tidal, hydrogen, solar power, magnetic motor, zero-point energy
Invited and confirmed speakers: Woody Harrelson (actor and environmental activist), Dr. George Miley (plasma fusion), David Goodwin (USDOE fission and fusion), Lynn Kenny (FDA - approved Rife technology), Dr. Bart Flick (Silverlon electric bandage), Paul Koloc (focus fusion), Mike Weiner (Biophan), Russ George (D2Fusion), Jim Dunn (NASA's Center for Tech Commercialization), Martin Burger (Tidal Power), Evgeny Podkletnov (Impulse Gravity Generator), Victoria Peters (Homestead Hydrogen), Dr. Glen Gordon (EM Probe therapy), Dr. Tania Slawecki (Penn State Electrotherapy Research), John Thomas (Searl Effect Generator), Pal Asija (alternative energy patents), Dr. Paul Murad (space technology); Bob Lazar (alternative energy), Dr. Tom Valone (zero-point energy), Dr. Ted Loder (magnetostatic motor), John Lear (aerospace history), John Sullivan (bi-directional electricity patent), and a Solar Energy presentation.
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Comment #48 posted by potpal on July 17, 2006 at 04:46:32 PT
Hope / medals
t-shirts, bumper stickers...design a mmj / anti-prohib line and market it with little effort at cafepress.com. Check it out. Wouldn't it be cool if we took all the wit and slogan-like wizzdom delivered here daily and create a cafepress site to distribute to and enlighten the world?FOM? Give me 10 bumper stickers that can advance our shared goals...Toker? Kapt? Everyone?Well, now I'm wondering cafepress's take on it and whether they have guidelines and such...just a thought.
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Comment #47 posted by Medical Marijuana Mi on July 17, 2006 at 00:51:29 PT
A DYING BREED
For the record, I've been a registered Democrat for more than 40 years - a moderately conservative, "states' rights" Nevada Democrat - and there aren't many of us left.
"YOU IDIOT!"Guy W. Farmer, a semi-retired journalist and former U.S. diplomat, resides in Carson City.Guy W. Farmer, of Carson City, is a semi-retired journalist who worked for the Nevada gaming control agencies in the 1960s.Guy W. Farmer, of Carson City, participated in the War on Drugs in seven countries during his 28-year U.S. Foreign Service career.http://www.nevadaappeal.com/article/20060625/OPINION/106250065
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Comment #46 posted by afterburner on July 16, 2006 at 22:48:11 PT
ekim #41, FoM & other Ecologists
CoolFuel Roadtrip is now online and on DVD!CoolFuel Roadtrip
http://www.coolfuelroadtrip.com/CoolFuel Roadtrip:
4 individual DVDs or a set of all 4
http://www.coolfuelroadtripstore.com/CoolFuel Roadtrip: Episode Guide
http://www.coolfuelroadtriptv.com/mediakit/EpisodeNotes.pdfTwo CoolFuel Roadtrip Episodes of special interest to CNewers:"Episode 3 [The first one I saw and tried to describe to the CNews family]
WATER in COLORADO
On the hunt for water to produce power, the crew
head out from Maroon Bells. Shaun gets his
hands on the El-Chopper motorbike, powers it
with water and hooks up with actress Daryl
Hannah. They ride together, play tetherball, and
check out her eco-ranch. She even drives a
soybean truck and gives him a big hug to boot!
Sparky cops a kick in the head from a wild camel
in the Rocky Mountains . . . definitely worth a
replay as they head for actor Dennis Weaver’s
Earthship home. The RV is running low on biofuel,
Marty’s concerned until he meets a rapsinging
bio-fuel
supplier known as
the Ayatollah
Granola of Canola.
Shaun takes a
final H20 charge at
a waterfall before
rolling into
Telluride. The
COOLFUEL Crew
is still runnin’ on
empty – who
would have
thought they’d get
this far!"[PHOTO]
"Shaun and Daryl Hannah
tour her property on her
electric motorcycle""Episode 8 [The Hemp One!]
HEMPOLINE through ALABAMA/MISSISSIPPI
George Washington farmed it. Henry Ford built a
car out of it. Levi Strauss made their original jeans
from it. So why not fuel up with it? The
COOLFUEL crew use hemp oil to make
Hempoline, but their first batch is a disaster. It
looks like horse manure. They manage to
get moving, taking a journey through
Montgomery and Selma, Alabama.
Shaun sings with George Jackson (Ol’
Time Rock ‘n Roll) and the crew gets their
hands on an $80,000
jet turbine engine truck. Refusing to
use fossil fuel, the COOLFUEL Crew tries to run
the truck on hempoline.
Heading to Mississippi, the
locals can’t believe the
fuel; the crew can’t believe
they’ve made it to the
Deep South."[PHOTO]
"Firing up the Jetturbine
pick-up truck" They're all good. I want the complete set of 4 DVDs for my energy research library and for the entertaining fun these Australians had traveling, sourcing out energy alternatives, and participating in future energy possibilities that are already available today for a little "long green."
My Original Cool Fuel Post
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Comment #45 posted by afterburner on July 16, 2006 at 22:10:43 PT
Guy Farmer: He's No Regular Guy & No Farmer Either
Of course, he dredges up the prohibitionists chant: {He [Editor Barry Ginter] rejected arguments calling pot a "harmless drug"}. To read this literally, since the "harmless" argument usually spews from the mouths of prohibitionists, Ginter is saying (and Farmer is agreeing) that they reject the arguments of prohibitionists!More illogic: {Ms. Bell "started drinking at 11 and smoking pot at 12, before meth almost destroyed her life. ...So let me reiterate a question I posed earlier this year: "If marijuana smoking can lead to the chronic use and abuse of meth and other more addictive drugs, and if meth is the No. 1 law enforcement priority in our city (which it is), what sense does it make to legalize possession of 'small' amounts of marijuana?"}Ms. Bell started drinking *before* she smoked "pot." Does Mr. Farmer therefore conclude that alcohol is a gateway to "marijuana smoking," "meth and other more addictive drugs"?What he should have said: {So let me reiterate a question I posed earlier this year: "If drinking [alcohol] can lead to the chronic use and abuse of meth and other more addictive drugs, and if meth is the No. 1 law enforcement priority in our city (which it is), what sense does it make to have institutionalized legal possession of 'large' amounts of alcohol?"}Even I don't believe my own sarcastic tripe, but it is just as logically false as Mr. Farmers actual "gateway" statement above.
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Comment #44 posted by BGreen on July 16, 2006 at 21:22:15 PT
Farmer's Dead Wife Cared About The Sick
What a shame he's a cruel, cold, heartless bastard.The Reverend Bud GreenEarly on, Consuelo Farmer, born in Mexico City, a child of poverty who struggled for a better life and education, married to Guy Farmer, was the translator for our doctors and nurses. This beautiful and talented woman moved among the poor and ill patients at Ross Medical as easily as she had hosted international receptions on behalf of her diplomat husband. There was something very sacred about the work going on in those exam rooms. Not only healing of body, but a connection of spirits, a gentleness, a respect for all. She was doing something very important in our community!Consuelo, with her own funds, would pay an annual visit to Kirk Wentworth at the Medicine Shoppe. She would place a generous gift in his hand, to be used as a credit for Ross Medical prescriptions. Those who could not pay his generic prices were healed through Consuelo's generosity.Consuelo died early this year. Before she died, she paid her usual visit to Kirk. And after her death, dozens of those who loved her sent gifts to FISH in her memory. Those gifts have been transferred to Kirk's Consuelo Farmer Prescription Trust. Her love continues.Ross Medical Clinic Must Continue!
http://www.fishcarson.org/angels_needed.htm
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Comment #43 posted by ekim on July 16, 2006 at 21:05:05 PT
kal gazette ran three LTES today on mmj
all three were callen for the lawmakers to do something to help the people inothers words save a valuble plant that will bring needed jobs and help clean the air for the children.
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Comment #42 posted by FoM on July 16, 2006 at 20:56:42 PT
ekim
Thank you for the heads up. That was a very good program on global warming.
Save The Planet For Another Day
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Comment #41 posted by ekim on July 16, 2006 at 20:52:00 PT
project -Save the globe -- grow more co2 absorbers
AKA Cannabis -wow two hours of hard hitting on the impact and causes for co2 getting higher.
just think that the last round that went off was the head learneded one said the law will end up with the mess. as we are putten out 25 percent of the stuff and we are 5 percent of the pop.
so tell me why is it so hard for the lawmakers to stand up and do something. oh ya might it be that the lawmakers are maken sure that the new types of industry and jobs and farms are kept to a crawl.
thank goodness for thinking people like Aaron Carvajal -http://cannabisnews.com/news/21/thread21996.shtmlwho are the future. Hemp 77% celluloseWhile corn is primarily used to distill ethanol, a new facility in Spain
will convert wheat straw as the ethanol's feedstock.The full story is available at
http://www.renewableenergyaccess.com/rea/news/story?id=35238google Genencor and see who owns it now. why are we not pumping out cellulostic ethanol all over this great country ---Why not ---the Ex Cia Dir James Woolsey was in Kalamazoo Mi at WMU sayen that for the good of the Nation and all those in it we must have cellusostic ethanol and the tech is here today.This is a pdf overview of NREL/Genencor work from 2003.
http://www.eere.energy.gov/biomass/pdfs/genencor_esp_review.pdfHere is an NREL Press release about Genencor/NREL winning a Top 100 R&D
award in 2004.
http://www.nrel.gov/news/press/2004/3404_technologies_lauded.html
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Comment #40 posted by FoM on July 16, 2006 at 20:10:30 PT
News Article from The Guardian UK
Prosecutors Take a Tough Line on Cannabis Supplied To Relieve Pain ***Clare Dyer, legal EditorMonday July 17, 2006Prosecutors are taking a firm line on the supply of cannabis for pain relief to people with chronically painful conditions such as multiple sclerosis, despite the downgrading of the drug from class B to class C.Two crown court trials, one starting this week and one next week, will accuse four individuals of supplying illegal drugs through the organisations Bud Buddies and THCforMS (Therapeutic Help from Cannabis for Multiple Sclerosis).Complete Article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/medicine/story/0,,1822253,00.html
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Comment #39 posted by JR Bob Dobbs on July 16, 2006 at 19:14:53 PT
You're welcome
Hope - it's not like you're asking for a new car. Try here: http://www.badgeaminit.com/ If you're as creative as you sound, the thing'll pay for itself.FoM, always glad to turn someone on to Cowboy Junkies! They've played many Neil covers, and they've really changed and developed over the years - listen to any 1980s show and a recent one, you can see they've stayed true to the core, yet consistently elaborated on it. I don't go to many concerts, and I've never seen any other band more than twice, but I've seen Cowboy Junkies seven times now.
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Comment #38 posted by Hope on July 16, 2006 at 18:59:09 PT
If I had access to those button making kits
I'd create the medals I've been talking about presenting to these "little masters" of the WoD.I'd use a montage of some of the faces of the many victims of their drug war. The children especially. Prohibitionist's Medal. Death, Blood Shed, Grief. And cover it all in red tinted clear plastic, with tear drop dangles.Or maybe just the faces of some of the children...the red clear covering and the circular captions of Top Prohibitionist Murder Monger.Or perhaps the words Proud Sponsor of the Deaths of These Children.They really deserve some sort of murder medal as recognition for all the death and grief they are responsible for. All of them.
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Comment #37 posted by mayan on July 16, 2006 at 18:28:22 PT
Guy Farmer = Idiot
He favors caging people for using a plant which has never killed anyone.And what does "marijuana" have to do with dangerous drugs?
Perhaps he could do some real research instead of relying on government/government funded studies. It's time to make his head spin with so many LTE's that he'll wish he'd never printed his lies.In unrelated, but tragic news, the war betweend Israel and Lebanon has already hit the west. I've heard that some Germans have been killed, also. Since this war is a direct result of the 9/11 inside job and the "war on terror" the Canadian government is responsible for these deaths since they have kissed Uncle Sam's ass all the way...
7 Canadians killed, 3 injured in Israeli air strike in south Lebanon:
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2006/07/16/1687646-cp.htmlTHE WAY OUT IS THE WAY IN...Richard Andrew Grove: Blowing The Whistle - Preview (video):
http://www.proteanmedia.com/grove/index.htmLocal woman explains conspiracy views of 9/11: Pfeif sued Herald over the issue:
http://durangoherald.com/asp-bin/article_generation.asp?article_type=news&article_path=/news/06/news060715_6.htmAnother Norway Paper Covers 9/11 Skepticism (scroll down):
http://www.911blogger.com/2006/07/another-norway-paper-covers-911.htmlIn defense of the conspiratorial world view:
http://www.opednews.com/articles/opedne_jay_esbe_060713_in_defense_of_the_co.htmAmerica Haters:
http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2006/07/america-haters.html
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Comment #36 posted by FoM on July 16, 2006 at 18:09:30 PT
Thanks JR
I couldn't figure out how to download anything from The Cowboy Junkies but her voice really is beautiful.Whig it sounds like you are both having a great time. Enjoy.
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Comment #35 posted by whig on July 16, 2006 at 18:01:13 PT
OT: Running around
Weather here is apparently cooler than almost anywhere in the country today. It's a pleasant 75 degrees, and I saw that South Dakota hit 115. Pittsburgh is 90.We stopped at a Mexican restaurant for lunch, I had probably the best burrito I've ever eaten.Still assembling furniture. We have a kitchen table and some chairs now. I should call Max when we have a spare moment. Hi Max, and welcome back from Hawaii.
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Comment #34 posted by JR Bob Dobbs on July 16, 2006 at 17:22:46 PT
The Junkies
Glad to see other Cowboy Junkies fans on here - they're also an Archive.org-friendly band...
http://www.archive.org/details/CowboyJunkies
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Comment #33 posted by FoM on July 16, 2006 at 14:13:24 PT
Hope
There was a skit on Mad TV years ago when an actress put her fingers in her ears and went la la la la I can't hear you. That's how I feel when I see this author's writings. I don't read it but just post it. Don't need no more lies like Neil says.
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Comment #32 posted by Hope on July 16, 2006 at 14:03:03 PT
Farmer
It's cool that his opinion hasn't garnered even one comment over at the Appeal.He must be checking on it regularly. I hope no one comments there...but if they do...I hope they rebuke and debunk every one of his lies.It's bound to deflate his massive ego a bit if no one at all comments!
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Comment #31 posted by ekim on July 16, 2006 at 13:38:09 PT
Jul 18 06 Las Vegas West Rotary 12:15 PM
Editor Barry Ginter and Guy W. Farmer, come and debate someone who will not fall for your line of BS. Jul 18 06 Las Vegas West Rotary 12:15 PM Jay Fleming Las Vegas Nevada USA Members of the Las Vegas West Rotary Club welcome Speaker Jay Fleming for lunch and discussion of various local and national issues related to the failure of drug prohibition.
http://www.leap.cc/events
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Comment #30 posted by Hope on July 16, 2006 at 13:25:30 PT
Mr. Farmer...Championship Liar of the Day!
Meth is the Number 1 law enforcement priority in their city? How insane is that? What happened to murder, rape, assault and theft?Mr. Farmer is another recipient of the tear and blood
drenched prohibitionist child endangerment medal.He's certainly earned it. Better a pothead in the eyes of God than a blood thirsty hate mongering liar.
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Comment #29 posted by FoM on July 16, 2006 at 12:53:32 PT
ekim
Here is a very good tour map. If you know someone in LEAP or CTC pass it on. I saw the Sierra Club at Greendale. I think they are calling the zone the Free Speech Zone. There couldn't be a better place for these groups to set up.http://www.neilyoung.com/lwwtoday/csnymappage.html
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Comment #28 posted by ekim on July 16, 2006 at 12:36:37 PT
great idea FoM
i wonder if Leap can get a booth and some footage for there upcoming dvd. how about a little ditty from csny like educate and regulate stop cannabis -GATE well-----something like that.
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Comment #27 posted by FoM on July 16, 2006 at 12:09:04 PT
ekim
I haven't heard back from her yet. I know she is very busy and the concert is a ways off. As far as Change The Climate if they contacted the Progressive Democrats of America they would be able to tell them how to do a booth. That would be a great idea. http://www.pdamerica.org/articles/events/2006-csny.php
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Comment #26 posted by observer on July 16, 2006 at 11:59:01 PT
vested interest in drug war
Guy W. Farmer, of Carson City, participated in the War on Drugs in seven countries during his 28-year U.S. Foreign Service career.Ah so ... no vested interest in the drug war there, then. Participating in the War on Drugs in seven countries during a 28-year U.S. Foreign Service career definitely means you don't have big emotional and career interests invested in jailing those evil pot heads. Same old cracks from this cracker:
google Guy Farmer at cnews
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Comment #25 posted by ekim on July 16, 2006 at 11:57:24 PT
FoM any word on your upcomming interview
i wonder if change the climate could by a billboard at a csny concert. from Libbys site
http://lastonespeaks.blogspot.com/
My friends at Change the Climate have a new video out. Imagine is definitely targeted to a particular audience, but as The Marijuana Policy Project points out, "If you're a supporter of small government, just imagine that the video could just as easily present a number of options for cutting taxes and/or cutting government programs as a result of ending marijuana prohibition." I think it's a good format, and a good idea for a campaign but my favorite will always be tonight's graphic. If you know of high traffic venue willing to put that poster up, Change the Climate pays to rent the space.
http://www.lastonespeaks.blogspot.com/
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Comment #24 posted by FoM on July 16, 2006 at 11:42:29 PT
Truth
I haven't seen Al Gore's movie yet. I will buy it when it is released on DVD. The reviews I have read said it was very good. I don't think Bush cares. The logic would be move from high risk areas if the waters and temperatures rise. That's just my opinion.
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Comment #23 posted by Truth on July 16, 2006 at 11:34:51 PT
the garden
I've seen that video but I haven't seen Al Gore's movie yet. One would think that the Bush's might have some concern for what their children's children will have to go through.
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Comment #22 posted by FoM on July 16, 2006 at 11:29:23 PT
Truth
I think there are different types of people. Some people look only at the present situation and how to gain from it and others try to look down the road for the well being of humanity. They are like black and white. Bush isn't concerned about the future. Many fundamentalist christians aren't worried about the future. These are value structures that guide us and I wonder which way we will go.I have the After The Garden is Gone video on my link if you haven't seen it yet.
Video On My Page
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Comment #21 posted by ekim on July 16, 2006 at 11:27:18 PT
On Sunday at 9pm, the Discovery Channel
Discovery Channel on global warming | Gristmill: The environmental ...On Sunday at 9pm, the Discovery Channel will run a special called ''Global ... Anyway, the special is hosted by Tom Brokaw, who, according to the NYT, ...
gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/7/10/145118/968 - 34k - Cached - Similar pages Jul 18 06 Las Vegas West Rotary 12:15 PM Jay Fleming Las Vegas Nevada USA
Members of the Las Vegas West Rotary Club welcome Speaker Jay Fleming for lunch and discussion of various local and national issues related to the failure of drug prohibition. Jul 25 06 Santa Monica City Council 06:00 PM Jack Cole Santa Monica California USA
LEAP Executive Director and co-founder, Jack Cole, meets with members of the Santa Monica City Council to discuss the absolute failure of America's war on drugs and to offer a viable and workable solution to the failures. Jul 26 06 Marysville Rotary 12:00 PM Jim Byron Marysville Washington USA
Speaker Jim Byron is a welcomed guest for lunch with members of the Marysville Rotary. Jim will then address the club in regards to the absolute failure of drug prohibition and will explain how legalization and regulation would be better than prohibition. Jul 27 06 Mesa, Arizona Chamber of Commerce 12:15 PM Jay Fleming Mesa Arizona USA
Speaker Jay Fleming is a welcomed guest for lunch and discussion of drug prohibition issues with members of the Mesa, Arizona Chamber of Commerce. Jul 27 06 Law Enforcement Indicts the Drug War! 06:00 PM Jack Cole Los Angeles California USA
LEAP Executive Director Jack Cole and Speaker Judge Jim Gray meet with civic leaders and the everyday citizen when they participate in a round table highlighting the absolute failure of the current drug prohibition policies and put forth new ideas and policies that have been proven to be successful. This is a DPA/CSDP sponsored program for the LEAP DVD.
http://www.leap.cc/events/
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Comment #20 posted by Truth on July 16, 2006 at 11:14:08 PT
bush
I wonder if he particapates in this global warming. Suppose he's clearing brush today or hiding in his air conditioned bubble?
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Comment #19 posted by FoM on July 16, 2006 at 11:09:46 PT
Truth
She is a very pretty lady with a gorgeous voice. That video is my very comfortable video. It's very hot today and it just makes it seem cooler with all the snow.
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Comment #18 posted by Truth on July 16, 2006 at 10:50:43 PT
FoM
Great video. I've only seen Randy Bachman once, and that was a long time ago. I've see Margo Timmins a few times with the Cowboy Junkies. They're a lot of fun. I had an instant crush on her when I first saw her in Winter Park, Colorado in the summer of '89.
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Comment #17 posted by FoM on July 16, 2006 at 10:32:52 PT
Truth
Thank you. That was great. I added it to my favorite YouTube videos. I love YouTube. Here is one of my favorites. It's called Prairie Townhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_W2dwZk1qw&search=neil%20young
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Comment #16 posted by Truth on July 16, 2006 at 10:03:22 PT
Weather alert
I feel a hurricane coming on....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mecpFfyptyg&mode=related&search=%22Neil%20Young%22
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Comment #15 posted by Genthirdday on July 16, 2006 at 09:42:38 PT
WAR.......Guy Farmer's Thinking Kills Us All....
Buffy St. Marie's "Universal Soldier" she wrote it to express "individual responsibility for war and how the old feudal thinking kills us all."Late Nite:You Tube...1970
http://www.talkleft.com/
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Comment #14 posted by global_warming on July 16, 2006 at 09:30:32 PT
posted to the NV Appeal
Thanks but No Thanks to Guy Farmer and his usual lock em up mentality. I wish what he was saying was partially true about cannabis use but all of his arguments are taken from either unsubstantiated references, government propaganda, which in my mind renders Ms. Farmers opinion useless.This country has been built upon the one singular idea, Freedom, freedom of religion, freedom from tyranny from a dominating force outside and inside this land. Reader, you may be focused on how much THC is in today's cannabis, but this is a red herring, and a smelly mackerel at that, you should be looking down at your footsteps, for the sake of public safety, someone is coming to curtail your freedom, they come in the name of safety, yet they come for more of your tax dollars, they demand that you are either with them or against them.If you listen closely, you can hear that knock on the door, it is the tax collector, he needs more of your hard earned tax dollars, to build more prisons, to write more laws, to get more money, to feed this nightmare of big government.November is a a few months away, remember, a vote for cannabis is a vote to end the growth of the serpent.Free America..Wonder if after editorial approval will get published?
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Comment #13 posted by Had Enough on July 16, 2006 at 09:30:19 PT
CSNY flies the flags for freedom, harmonies
CSNY flies the flags for freedom, harmoniesA few lines from review.But Young came to slash and burn and that's what he did with the incendiary "The Restless Consumer," a big highlight Saturday. It's a classic Young guitar-driven rocker but his anger with the Bush administration had him carrying on like a 20-year-old punk rocker not a 60-year-old Hall of Famer. He got so revved up shouting "no more lies" that Stephen Stills thrust his arms into the air and wagged a scolding finger while he sang along. Can any longtime CSN fan remember the last time Stills was this agitated and animated? …..And…To underscore the messages, the stage was decorated with flags of various nations, an oversized microphone with a yellow ribbon around it and a peace symbol, which became turned on its side and broken for "Living with War" songs. …http://www.startribune.com/457/story/554927.htmlThis has to be a good show.
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Comment #12 posted by Had Enough on July 16, 2006 at 09:27:10 PT
Numbers
“A recent investigative report by the Des Moines (Iowa) Register warned that "today's marijuana is at least 10 times more potent than it was in the 1970s," and quoted the Iowa Crime Lab as saying that 21st century pot produces "a stronger, longer-lasting high whose effects reach far beyond the so-called 'munchies' and drowsiness" caused by earlier, milder forms of the drug. Iowa Drug Czar Marvin Van Haaften added that today's marijuana contains THC (the main active chemical in the drug) levels of more than 20 percent, compared to average THC levels of two percent in the 1970s.”Yep, here we go again. They are still having a hard time coming up with a number again, to compare to Panama Red, Acapulco Gold, and Columbian Gold.Last week, we read 8 times.
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Comment #11 posted by global_warming on July 16, 2006 at 09:24:14 PT
now that is
a pig or ignorant buffoon, who will come before Eternity with his clown makeup and seek forgiveness, pity such a fool.
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Comment #10 posted by global_warming on July 16, 2006 at 09:22:02 PT
re:gay farmer
Guy W. Farmer, of Carson City, participated in the War on Drugs in seven countries during his 28-year U.S. Foreign Service career.
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Comment #9 posted by global_warming on July 16, 2006 at 08:48:02 PT
comment 1
may I use your words to comment on Gay Farmers Opinion?Since it was only his opinion and we all can comment in the opinion column of that NV rag called Appeal.
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Comment #8 posted by unkat27 on July 16, 2006 at 08:29:38 PT
Thanx JR
Thanx for the Zevon, great stuff. Exolent dl site.
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Comment #7 posted by Sam Adams on July 16, 2006 at 08:08:22 PT
Guy Farmer
If I'm a Pothead, that means Guy Farmer is a Pig. I'd rather be a pothead than a pig any day.This guy's obviously a legend in his own mind. His "loyal readers"? one can only imagine who they are. A few more crusty, shut-in bigoted haters out in the sticks? For the untintentional dangers of Big Government, look no further than this guy. Those of us here in the "Homeland" have been working away at our jobs in the real world, creating productivity and value so that this guy can steal some of that money to go live around the world, doing ridiculous make-believe anti-drug work in tropical locales. This guy's ego is direct result of living that life for 40 years. Look at his sneering arrogance and I-know-better-than-you attitude. This is what happens to your mind after 40 years of leeching off the backs of others. One man making a decision about how the rest of the people live is NOT the American Way, the exulted individual was supposed to be wiped out by our democratice culture.The sheer size of the federal government's politcal machine nowadays is staggering. The result of this system is elders and leaders who are totally insulated from reality by their own bloated egos. Remember George Bush's surprise as the automatic price-checkers in the grocery store?Bob Marley said:You see men sailing on their ego tripsBlast off on their spaceshipsMillion miles from realityNo care for you, no care for meSo much trouble in the world now [repeat]All you've got to do is give a littleGive a little, give a littleOne more time ye-a-h! ye-ah!So you think you have found the solutionBut it's just another illusionSo before you check out your tideDon't leave another cornerstone standing there behindWe have got to face the day, ooh we come what mayWe the street people talking, we the people strugglingNow they are sitting on a time bombNow I now the time has comeWhat goes up must come downGoes around comes around
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Comment #6 posted by FoM on July 16, 2006 at 07:43:39 PT
Thank JR
I'm listen to one of his songs now. I didn't know music was available like this. I never learned about torrents so I have to look hard to find music.
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Comment #5 posted by JR Bob Dobbs on July 16, 2006 at 07:35:30 PT
OT: Music
Good job, Wayne - this article got both our danders up, and I sense we're not alone.I know a lot of CNewsers are into good music, so I thought I'd share my latest obsession complete with a handy listening link... I've been listening to Warren Zevon more and more the past couple years and it's amazing to me how I'd only ever heard "Werewolves Of London" before yet the guy has such an amazing body of work. His music is very good and the lyrics range from black comedy to amazingly touching, sometimes in the same song. And if you haven't discovered Archive.org, the whole thing is well worth exploring. Every show is available in multiple ways - downloadable lossless or MP3s, or streaming MP3s (except the Grateful Dead Soundboards which have gone to streaming only after some legal wrangling). Neil Young isn't on Archive.org yet (sorry Neil fans!) but there's many well-known bands and tons of smaller independent artists. Not to mention all the public domain media, which includes Reefer Madness and Hemp For Victory, but also old newsreels, declassified CIA films, Buster Keaton comedies, GNN videos and other indymedia productions... anything and everything they are able to include is included. If you've never looked at the site before, be warned - it'll take you hours to explore, and you still won't have found everything. A broadband connection is a plus but not 100% necessary.
Warren Zevon at Archive.org
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Comment #4 posted by charmed quark on July 16, 2006 at 07:30:53 PT
Mayo article on marijuana as medicine
Could he be referring to this article?http://health.yahoo.com/topic/cancer/treatment/article/mayoclinic/339FC92E-C775-4333-97FA4625C7B27705
or http://tinyurl.com/zdc3nIn risks it lists the primary risk as "legal". It then mentions the other stuff ( memory problems, etc.) but in the context of the article these are obviously "acute" side effects of the drug, not some long-term problem. It does mention the fact, probably incorrect, that smoking it exposes you to substances that may cause cancer. Of course, if this was really a risk, than vaporizer use should be encouraged.
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Comment #3 posted by Treeanna on July 16, 2006 at 07:29:12 PT
Write some well documented letters debunking him
Here is the link for that paper's LTE submissions:http://apps.nevadaappeal.com/forms/letter/index.phpNice how he calls people "potheads" and brays about how he was a drugwar thug. Bet he talks about immigration using terms like "wetbacks", etc.
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Comment #2 posted by JR Bob Dobbs on July 16, 2006 at 07:19:30 PT
But
I searched MAPINC for the Mayo Clinic study, but I couldn't find it. I wish these articles were forced to quote their sources. The recent UCLA study from Dr. Donald Tashkin says that marijuana smoke does have 50% more carcinogens than tobacco, but that people who only smoke marijuana have no greater risk of cancer than the general non-smoking population, due to THC killing off pre-cancerous cells before they become cancerous. No, marijuana isn't harmless. Nothing is harmless. Coffee isn't harmless, and I bet 95% or more of meth-heads used coffee before they used meth. Coffee can lead to physical withdrawal symptoms, which is not the case with cannabis. But a war on coffee growers and consumers would be a much worse situation for everybody.And the FDA and Mark Souder? Here, we all know how politicized the FDA's decision was - especially since it came from the same federal government who still sends tins of NIDA pot to the few remaining Compassionate IND program patients. Mark Souder is so blinded by his own irrational hatred that I have no idea what could possibly make him see the light. I think if he got cancer he'd rather suffer than use cannabis to ease his pain. Really, if you want to see a system set up where Nevadans use less marijuana, legalize it! The Dutch have a much smaller per-capita rate of smokers than the USA. Perhaps this is because a USA consumer usually buys it in a much larger quantity than a Dutch consumer. If you don't know where your next bag of smoke is coming from, you tend to buy a larger quantity when it's there, unlike the Netherlands. If you want to spend an evening smoking in Holland, you can, but you know it'll be there tomorrow if you choose not to indulge tonight. I know plenty of people who say they'd smoke less if it were legal.And your main concern is to have people smoke less marijuana? What about the greater good? We could have less marijuana smokers if any marijuana offense was given the death penalty. Caught with a dime bag? Off with his head! This may sound a bit absurd, but regular C-News readers will realize it's just a more extreme version of our current policies. How about your main concern be the overall welfare of society? As the proponents of the Nevada campaign point out, if marijuana were legal, people would drink less alcohol. People would move from the more dangerous substance to the less dangerous one. Also, the link between marijuana and other, harder illegal drugs would be severed. Right now, any marijuana smoker automatically knows someone they can ask about buying harder drugs if they are interested in doing so. But if you could buy your supply of cannabis at a store like you could with beer, then it doesn't come with a link to the black market. If you wanted to try meth after that, you'd have to start from scratch tracking down a supplier."Marijuana causes insanity... in non-smokers." - Tim Leary
Recent UCLA study
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Comment #1 posted by Wayne on July 16, 2006 at 07:05:53 PT
get comfy... I have a long list of rebuttals
"Earlier this year, studies by Minnesota's respected Mayo Clinic found that regular marijuana use can cause health problems ranging from memory loss to cancer. Specifically, clinic researchers reported that pot smoking can inhibit short-term memory; reduce hand-eye coordination, reaction time and muscle strength; limit attention span; increase the risk of schizophrenia, and may even cause paranoia, anxiety and/or panic attacks."--Ummm, I don't see cancer listed anywhere in your 'specific' reasons. And besides, UCLA just came out and said that marijuana does NOT cause cancer. So I guess it's a game of 'who do you trust?'"The FDA further determined that pot smoking is harmful and that there are no sound scientific studies supporting the safety or efficacy of 'medical' marijuana. Other than that, the drug is completely safe."--Did I read that right? Did I see 'FDA' and 'completely safe' in the same paragraph? Isn't he saying that it's NOT completely safe? Why is that in there?? And if the FDA says there is no medical benefit, why are they approving synthetic cannabinoids?"A recent investigative report by the Des Moines (Iowa) Register warned that 'today's marijuana is at least 10 times more potent than it was in the 1970s,' and quoted the Iowa Crime Lab as saying that 21st century pot produces 'a stronger, longer-lasting high whose effects reach far beyond the so-called 'munchies' and drowsiness' caused by earlier, milder forms of the drug. Iowa Drug Czar Marvin Van Haaften added that today's marijuana contains THC (the main active chemical in the drug) levels of more than 20 percent, compared to average THC levels of two percent in the 1970s."--Far beyond the munchies? Would that include DEATH? Nope, it's still never killed anyone, and it never will. The higher-potency theory is based on the marijuana that police have seized, and it turns out that the pot they were seizing in the 1970's because, by and large, it had more time to rot back then because seizing it wasn't as high a priority as it is now. The 20% figure describes sensemilla and hash oil, not your average everyday schwag, which still hovers around 5%."a recent study by the University of Otago, New Zealand, Medical School, which concluded that 'there is a clear tendency for those using cannabis (marijuana) to have higher rates of usage of other illicit drugs,' including methamphetamine.."--Higher rates than whom? People not using cannabis? Did you leave out that part by accident? The fact is, marijuana is NOT a gateway drug. Only about 0.8% of the people that try marijuana go on to use harder drugs. Marijuana is not a stepping stone...it's just more available than other substances. MARIJUANA doesn't make you want to try other things, your own DESIRES do. Make a stand for personal responsibility for God's sake, and quit blaming everything on the pot!"if meth is the No. 1 law enforcement priority in our city (which it is), what sense does it make to legalize possession of 'small' amounts of marijuana?"--Ummm, so you can concentrate more resources on busting meth makers and quit wasting them on responsible adults."Guy W. Farmer, of Carson City, participated in the War on Drugs in seven countries during his 28-year U.S. Foreign Service career."--What 'foreign service' might that be? What organizations did he belong to? Would his 'service' include uprooting marijuana and coca fields in South America by any chance?I WANT ANSWERS. I WANT DETAILS. I WANT SOME REAL PROOF!!!
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