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Lowering of Blood Pressure Through Use of Hashish
Posted by CN Staff on June 19, 2006 at 09:41:08 PT
By The Hebrew University of Jerusalem 
Source: eMaxHealth.com 
Jerusalem -- A new method for lowering blood pressure (hypertension) through use of a compound that synthesizes a cannabis (hashish) plant component has been developed by a pharmacology Ph.D. student at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem School of Pharmacy.For his work on the cardiovascular activity of cannabinoids (chemical compounds derived from cannabis), Yehoshua Maor was one of the winners of this year's Kaye Innovation Awards, presented on June 13 during the Hebrew University of Jerusalem's 69th meeting of the Board of Governors.
Cardiovascular disease (CVD) accounts for about one-third of all deaths in industrialized countries, and is the leading reason for visits there to physicians as well as for drug prescriptions. However, not all patients respond well to the drugs available. There is no "ideal' hypotensive (blood pressure lowering) drug.The cannabis plant - also known as hashish or marijuana – through its chemical compounds - cannabinoids - has been shown to have a beneficial, hypotensive effect. However, a drawback in the therapeutic use of cannabinoids has been its undesirable psychotropic properties - production of hallucinatory effects. Attempts to separate the hypotensive action from the psychotropic properties of cannabinoids have achieved only partial success until now.Working under the supervision of Prof. Raphael Mechoulam at the Hebrew University School of Pharmacy, Maor, who was born in Brazil and immigrated to Israel in 1998, has created a synthetic version of a minor cannabis constituent named cannabigerol, which is devoid of psychotropic activity.In laboratory experiments with rats in collaboration with Prof. Michal Horowitz of the Department of Environmental Physiology, it was found that this novel compound reduced blood pressure when administered to the rats in relatively low doses. Additional testing also showed that the compound also brought about another beneficial effect - relaxation of the blood vessels. A further beneficial property observed in work carried out with Prof. Ruth Gallily of the Lautenberg Center for General and Tumor Immunology, was that the compounds produced an anti-inflammatory response.Maor believes that these qualities have the potential for development of a valuable new clinical drug with a major market potential, especially for patients suffering from inflammation of the blood vessels as the result of hypertension, and others with metabolic irregularities.Maor already has won international recognition for his work with cannabanoids, resulting from his collaborative work with Garry Milman, another Ph.D. student in the laboratory of Prof. Mechoulam, for the discovery of an endogenous compound found in the brain which causes vaso-relaxation.Maor begin a post-doctoral fellowship in the fall at the Harvard University Medical School, where he plans to continue his research.Quote: "A new method for lowering blood pressure (hypertension) through use of a compound that synthesizes a cannabis (hashish) plant component has been developed." Complete Title: Lowering of Blood Pressure Achieved Through Use of Hashish-Like Drug Source: eMaxHealth.com (Web)Published: June 19, 2006Copyright: 2006 eMaxHealth.comCannabisNews Medical Marijuana Archiveshttp://cannabisnews.com/news/list/medical.shtml
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Comment #76 posted by museman on June 26, 2006 at 12:16:37 PT
Whig, Afterburner.
Yes.Thank you very much for that info takes it right out of theory and into fact.Just goes to show how far back the deception goes.
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Comment #75 posted by afterburner on June 25, 2006 at 22:06:10 PT
whig & museman
1) It's experiential, not historical, but you may find it interesting: High Priest (Paperback) 
by Timothy Leary
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0914171801/104-5157589-4783148?v=glance&n=283155Check out some of the reviews.{Aaron was the first high priest and was Moses' brother. After Aaron died, subsequent high priests were his descendants, known as the sons of Aaron. The High Priest was the most glorious Jewish position. His representative dress was said to be "for glory and for beauty."} --THE BREASTPLATE OF THE HIGH PRIEST
http://www3.tky.3web.ne.jp/~jafarr/THE%20BREASTPLATE%20OF%20THE%20HIGH%20PRIEST.htmlDr. Leary was condemned by many religious leaders for revealing esoteric wisdom to the masses. Obviously, some of the masses were not yet ready. And the power-brokers, well, they may never be ready.2) Also of note is Sula Benet's contention that kaneh-bosm was actually cannabis, mistranslated as calamus. And that kaneh-bosm was a powerful ingredient in the holy annointing oil used by the Son of Man.
--Cannabis: Some History 
http://www.rxdirect2u.com/p-cannabis.htm"Here is the genuine article, preserved by an archeological miracle, one of the Qumran Thanksgiving Hymns of the Iassai, written in Hebrew in 50 BC. Part of the reason for their survival is that the scrolls were penned on sheep or calf skins, rather than the usual papyrus linen. This indicates their canonical character, as does the superb penmanship of these accomplished scribes. The other reason for the survival of the Dead Sea Scrolls is, oddly enough, the Roman attempt to destroy them. This scroll was buried under sand for nearly 2,000 years after the Romans, in 68 CE, entombed it by sacking and burning the Essene desert community of Qumran near the Dead Sea."
--THC - Cannabis - Ministry :: Community :: View topic - Dead Sea Scrolls and Kanehbosm 
http://www.thc-ministry.net/forum/archive/dead-sea-scrolls-and-kanehbosm-2385.htm3) Elysian mysteries:
"There are nevertheless enough indications that many religions used one form or another of psychedelic trance; like wine at the Dionysian mysteries, tobacco at the ceremonies of the Native Americans, the mysterious Soma of ancient India and possibly psychoactive fungi in wheat (ergot, from which later LSD got extracted) at the Greek Elysian mysteries."
--MAGIC MUSHROOMS - Sacred or fun 
http://www.magic-mushrooms.net/paddos/3__Sacred_or_fun.html4) "The body of information we call Huna was not openly discussed and it was apparently never written down. The teachings were passed from initiate to initiate for hundreds, possibly thousands, of generations. These initiates were called kahuna, meaning literally the keepers of the secret. Most kahuna were very wise. They were teachers and healers."
--Huna Healing:
The Integration of Mind, Body and Spirit
http://www.well-net.com/huna/hunaheal1.html
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Comment #74 posted by whig on June 25, 2006 at 16:59:57 PT
museman
See under Judeo-Christian use:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_%28spiritual_use%29
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Comment #73 posted by museman on June 25, 2006 at 16:51:43 PT
whig
By the "J" word I mean jesus.
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Comment #72 posted by museman on June 25, 2006 at 16:48:34 PT
whig
I agree with the logic, I was just wondering if there was any actual references that were specificly cannabis related.I am well aware of the campaign of ignorance that has been waged against us, most specially concerning Y'shua.Due to some material recently passed my way, my understanding of the Hebrew or Jewish way has increased. When you say 'Jesus was a Jew' (though I don't use the "J" word) I actually understand something now in that statement that would have gone right by me before. It sheds new insight on the concept of the 'sacrifice on the cross' as well as the nature of the man.Yes your intimation of cannabis being the 'tree of life' is true, and it is only logical that it was a major part of Y'shuas' way and wisdom. That he took what was hidden and revealed it to anyone who would see, is to me part of Y'shuas greatness. By that logic, and the logic of the rabbi (which I have grasped) I would have to admit that based on the evidence that is available, and the logic of the entire knowledge base available to me- including my own visionary-revelation of the Truth as comes from the Source by many means mysterious I would have to accept your surmise until such time as other information should reveal.
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Comment #71 posted by whig on June 25, 2006 at 16:27:56 PT
museman
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YeshuFrom the Talmudic perspective, Yeshu was guilty primarily of "burning his food in public."I could give you various snippets of scriptural and historical evidence for what I say, but it would be all to unconvincing because the truth has been duly suppressed and largely destroyed for thousands of years. Do you think the surviving fragments can tell us what happened? They can only give us small snapshots which, through little details and mentions and allusions to things, confirm our understanding.But this understanding does not come from a textual source, it is an understanding which comes from knowledge of what cannabis is and what it does and how it transforms our consciousness in a way consistent with everything that the sayings of Jesus were. He was a pothead. Jesus was a pot revolutionary.Say you do or do not agree based on what you know about what we are doing and what happened then was the same thing that is happening now. It happened then and it was suppressed. It was suppressed because it would have toppled the whole system but it was not widespread enough. And they could not win by force and they could not crucify everyone and not have more and more every day. So they did not continue to oppress us, they adopted our creed as their own and proclaimed it their religion and the religion of the world, but corrupted it.
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Comment #70 posted by museman on June 25, 2006 at 14:51:00 PT
whig - afterburner
The idea of the Rainbow signifying the 'family of man' has to do with the six primary races of man; no color association, recognized as the six primary colors of the rainbow, and the seventh color is white -the color of light -representing the colors fused into one. Hence the original idea of "The Rainbow Family of Living Light."Of course the story of Abraham establishes the sign of the Rainbow as the covenant between God and man, and that is also included.whig; you speak of all this relationship betwen Y'shua and cannabis. I've often intuited that there was something about it, but in all my studies, I've never come across anything as profound as what you state. Is there an accessable source of this information?
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Comment #69 posted by whig on June 25, 2006 at 14:14:33 PT
afterburner
I agree with what you say. By the way, I consider original Christianity to be as much a rebellion against the Jewish leadership (including the modern Rabbinical Judaism) by Jesus and his friends as against the Roman Empire.We are Jews (and so I was born too) and Christians because that is our culture, but we are not Jews and Christians because we obey the Priests. We do not obey their authority because it is falsely asserted and pretends that God has set some men above others, and this is not true. It is a lie.What Jesus did was a crime in the eyes of the priests of his day. He did something that was as much a crime as what we do. It was the same crime. That is what I believe and you seem to be at least sharing a wavelength here so, at the risk of offending some other readers who I hope will bear with me even if they disagree, I'd like to continue.Jesus was a man, like you are a man, and like I am a man. And he was a Jewish man and he discovered that cannabis was something that the priests had denied the people in order to preserve their privileged status. He discovered that the scriptures had been written by people who took cannabis, but the priests did not want people receiving the truth from God directly, only through their intermediation, so they said the cannabis was not to be disclosed, it was not to be permitted, it was to be concealed and made illegal so that they would keep their status.And Jesus, I believe, he went and told the people. He said you are free to take cannabis for yourself. He said here is some cannabis which will cure you of you illnesses, which will make you understand the mysteries of the universe which were not meant to be hidden from you but have been concealed by the intentional deception of your leaders. And for that, he was crucified.And then the words which were written, in scattered parchments here and there, were always careful not to repeat the specific facts which led to his death, they could not say in writing what he said or they would meet the same fate, but only share the truth by word of mouth from one to another, and use their writings to let one another know that they all understood and were on the same wavelength. Like we do here now on CNews.And the parchments were collected by people who wanted to centralize power for themselves, and those parchments could be made to support their authority were made into the books of the Bible, and those parchments which denied their authority and were able to be collected were destroyed, and others which survived only did so through concealing them for centuries and even millennia, from which only fragments now remain.And so it is to us today to say what is true in our own sight, and if we mistake things sometimes it is nonetheless part of our own process of establishing what is good scripture and what is wrong, because we cannot show what is wrong with the bad doctrines unless we understand them well enough to express them and then demonstrate their falsity.But we would not censor a word of it, and even the false doctrines are as entitled of being read and considered as the true ones, and none of us can command another to believe one thing or disbelieve another, but only to express our own view and let others decide as they see it.
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Comment #68 posted by afterburner on June 25, 2006 at 13:13:33 PT
whig #67
I agree that the 12 tribes "do not constitute the human race." However, Judaism is the forerunner of Christianity and communion is a Christian tradition. 12 tribes is only an example. 12 signs of the zodiac could be used instead. Or 12 colors of the rainbow (red orange yellow green blue indigo violet and by extension pink brown black gray white). The number 12, like the numbers 40 and 7 [12 disciples & apostles, 40 years in the wilderness, 40 days fasting, 7 days to create the world], has special significance in Judaism, and hence in Christianity and Islam. The rainbow has special significance in Judaism as well, being the external manifestation of God's promise never again to destroy the human race by flood.I am not attempting to be exclusionary. In fact, I have studied the sacred writings of many religions and attended many religious ceremonies. I see denominations and competing faiths as facets of the same divine diamond. We all can learn from each other's faith if we are open to the experience.I agree with you, even though I know that some here disagree, that cannabis is a sacrament, the holy anointing oil, Christ (the annointed one), or Messiah. Many in the church are not yet ready to replace the bread with cannabis, but the resolutions of support for medical cannabis are steps in the right direction. When I speak of rainbow family, I mean the generic oneness of all humanity. I do not presume to speak for any Rainbow Gathering that may have its own philosophy and tradition.Compassion and peace, brotherafterburner
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Comment #67 posted by whig on June 21, 2006 at 23:15:56 PT
afterburner
Getting off on a tangent here, hope not to offend.12 tribes of Israel do not constitute the human race.While certain of the Rastafari adopt this metaphor for themselves as Israelites, it is still an exclusionary practice.To say that (some group) constitutes Israel, even including the lost tribes, is to exclude all the rest of humanity from your communion.I would say that the breaking of bread is properly the sharing of sacrament, and the spiritual bread is cannabis. No established church recognizes this today, but it is my belief that this was the original church and is still so.
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Comment #66 posted by afterburner on June 21, 2006 at 22:59:21 PT
RE Twelve Tribes 
A friend of mine wants the church to use 12-grain bread for communion instead of white bread. 12 symbolizes the 12 tribes of Israel, as well as all people of color, in other words the rainbow family.
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Comment #65 posted by FoM on June 21, 2006 at 14:15:39 PT
Upcoming Event: Rainbow Family of Living Light 
Hippies Headed To Northern Colorado Forest 
By Allison PleanJune 19, 2006STEAMBOAT SPRINGS - A temporary city made up of tens of thousands of residents who go by one-word names like Stone and Star will be erected next month in the Routt National Forest, north of Eagle County.The Rainbow Family of Living Light has decided to hold its Rainbow Gathering July 1 through 7 somewhere in the forest in Northwest Colorado, most likely in Routt County. An advance group of 150 to 200 people are at the Hinman campground in North Routt County this weekend to determine the best site for what can best be described as the largest gathering of hippies in North America.Complete Article: http://www.vaildaily.com/article/20060619/NEWS/106190041
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Comment #64 posted by FoM on June 21, 2006 at 13:58:27 PT
NYT: Summer of Love Redux 
By Will HermesPublished: June 18, 2006Asa Irons of the Vermont musical collective Feathers is stroking his beard. It is formidable beard; a biblical beard. He and his band mates — who mainly operate out of a rural farmhouse without cellphones, Internet, manager or booking agent — are at WNYC radio to perform their enigmatic, pixie-ish folk-rock on the long-running show "Spinning on Air." Today their instruments include a lap harp, a toy xylophone, a Middle Eastern hand drum and an acoustic guitar hand-painted with animals and rainbows. Complete Article: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/06/18/arts/music/18herm.html
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Comment #63 posted by FoM on June 21, 2006 at 13:53:21 PT
News Article from Souder's State
The '60s are Over, But Some Still Dig The Music, Ideals and Tie-Dye***By Bill Reed, The GazetteJune 19, 2006He's an old hippie and he don't know what to doShould he hang on to the oldShould he grab on to the newHe's an old hippie ... his new life is just a bustHe ain't trying to change nobodyHe's just trying real hard to adjust~ Bellamy Brothers, "Old Hippie"Peace, love and flowers ... forever. It's been 40 years since the Grateful Dead became the house band at acid tests in Golden Gate Park, since the word "hippie" assaulted the ears of confused "straights," since music and culture began a period of wild, careening change.But it's not the anniversary that's remarkable. It's the fact that hippie culture never went away. Disco is dead. New Wave is nuked. "Leave it to Beaver" is a distant dream. The '60s, though, are still groovy, for young and old alike."It's totally true," said Samantha Sloan, 25."Right, because the '80s aren't cool. But the '60s ..."Wear a poodle skirt or a leisure suit and people will ask you if it's Halloween. Wear tie-dye, long hair and granny glasses and people won't look twice as your VW microbus rumbles by."Jerry Garcia is bigger now than he was when he was young," said Bud Ford, 61, former mayor of Manitou Springs, Colo., and owner of The Dulcimer Shop on the town's main drag. "I didn't affect the Jerry Garcia hair and beard until I was retired from my profession."Janis, Jimi, Jim and Jerry have ascended into the pantheon of rock music immortals. The Dead's jam-based rock has mushroomed into an entire genre and festivals like Bonnaroo look an awful lot like Woodstock.The peace sign is still cool. The devil horns, not so much.Sure, part of the reason is those pushy baby boomers throwing their weight around, insisting that their formative years were the most exciting in the history of the nation.But it's an easy sell."It was an innovative generation. They actually did (stuff) - civil rights, women's rights - while we just live on our parents' couches until we get kicked out," said Sarah LaPlante, 22. "Everybody wants to go back."LaPlante works at The Poppy Seed in Manitou Springs, Colo., a "one stop hippie shop" stuffed full of flowing skirts, scarves, incense and glass pipes. Essentially, it sells '60s nostalgia and ideals, and it does well."This entire town is run by hippies," LaPlante said. "We have a lot of regulars. A lot of positive vibes flow in this place. And the music ... they don't make music like that anymore."LaPlante said the people she went to college with idolized the 1960s to such a degree that it has become a Golden Age in the minds of dreamers. At the same time, young people feel like they can't live up to what their elders did.Of course, there are slightly more cynical explanations for the eternal appeal of the hippie."Marijuana," said Bard Griffin, 19. "Also, the fact that the ideas of free love and communal living are very appealing. It's naturally appealing to teenagers. It's appealing to me."Marijuana may sound like a flip answer, but it goes to the core of '60s appeal: When someone brings up that decade, it's the counterculture that springs to mind - teenage rebellion, war protests and drug culture.We see "the `60s" through a cloud of smoke.The 1960s was also the decade of "The Sound of Music" and Jackie's pillbox hat, the Cuban Missile Crisis and color TV. Yet we think of Wavy Gravy rather than Willie Mays, Haight-Ashbury instead of the Heartland."From January 1960 to December 1969, everything changed, seemingly at a faster pace than in any American decade since," Stuart Shea wrote in "The 1960s Most Wanted." "Life in America went from black and white to color, not just on the nation's TV screens but in fashion, racial matters, and popular culture."Griffin put his finger on why people his age idolize the '60s: "There's always a resurgence in anything that had to do with teenage rebellion."Journalist Alan Bisbort - who cut his teeth writing for underground hippie publications in the '60s and is author of the counterculture flashback books "Rhino's Psychedelic Trip" and "The White Rabbit and Other Delights" - defined hippie culture as "the possibly naive belief that a better world is possible."That belief is eternally inviting to the young and the optimistic.And as another unpopular war rages overseas, it's not surprising that people look back to the Vietnam era, even if they aren't staging massive protests."See, I can't believe there's not more anti-war demonstrations," said tourist Dennis Rowse, 61, during a visit to The Dulcimer Shop. "It's got to be coming from our youth."Rowse is a retired school principal visiting from Arizona; he is not an anarchist radical and he has no interest in protests himself. Yet, the activist spirit of the '60s leaves him looking askance at young people today who aren't taking to the streets.Tie-dye, long hair and Grateful Dead bootlegs are fine, but baby boomers like Rowse are frustrated that people want to buy the 1960s rather than live the ideas.Griffin and LaPlante agree with him, indicting their generation as lazy do-nothings.Some boomers, however, hold out hope for younger generations."I think it's much more of a lifestyle affectation than a way of life right now," Bisbort said. "But if the military draft goes through, you will see a dramatic change in that equation. If they're not pissed off about that, then I don't know what would piss them off. I think there's an underlying potential for great rage that may become a potential for great optimism."With Bisbort's big-tent definition of "hippie," it's not about tie-dye or even the '60s but the desire for progressive social change."I think it's a fight that predates these terms," Bisbort said. "Jesus Christ was the first hippie. Gandhi, Thoreau, Eugene Debs. Anybody who was any good was a hippie. If you're not a hippie, I feel sorry for you."Others feel sorry for burned-out hippies. Between The Dulcimer Shop and The Poppy Seed is a newspaper box stocked with copies of "HippieCrit," a publication from the Twelve Tribes religious group that reaches out to disillusioned survivors of the '60s:"We thought we were flying high, man ... But as the smoke cleared and we looked out the window, there we were, still on the ground ... a little grayer, a lot sadder, and airsick on top of it all."Idealism makes for hard landings, man.Maybe today's young cynics are smart - or at least safe - to adopt the poppies without the protests, the love beads without the love.http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssentinel/14853031.htm
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Comment #62 posted by FoM on June 20, 2006 at 15:03:46 PT
museman
I beliieve in the power of music. A song can make me recall all kinds of emotions and there is nothing else that can do that for me. The Taliban made the people stop playing music. There is a reason why. We don't have good music that has a message of hope and redemption and good ideals on the radio. I do see similarities. I saw on the news that Clear Channel gives a lot of money to the Republicans but very little to the Democrats. I thought that was interesting.
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Comment #61 posted by museman on June 20, 2006 at 14:54:39 PT
FoM
Years ago a question was asked of our generation in a song "American Pie""Well do you believe in Rock and Roll? Can music save your mortal soul? Can you learn to dance real slow?"I often pondered that question. Here's my answer.I believe in the power of Faith and belief. I know music, it's magic and it's power and influence. I believe in the Living Word as exemplified by one Yashua ben Yoseph and given to those of us who embrace the living essence of it.The word combined with the music, and light and color has a transformational quality that causes the human spirit to seek it like moths to a flame. That awareness is exploited and abused by the Industry. They attempt to construct semblance of the magic our spirits seek, but the result is 'Britney Spears' and all the other 'made' illusory characters in bangles and beads.I believe that someday a NEW SONG is going to come upon us, and when it does, everybody is going to know it and knowing, sing. That song is the one, and I do believe in the Redemptive Power existent in the source of it.
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Comment #60 posted by FoM on June 20, 2006 at 14:24:51 PT
BUDSNAXZ 
No I don't have anything on My Space. I tried a couple time to figure it out but it never worked right for me. I just have enjoyed reading the links on Neil's My Space page. I don't know how to post an e-mail contact here without being concerned. 
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Comment #59 posted by BUDSNAXZ on June 20, 2006 at 14:13:18 PT
FOM comment 29
FOM,
Just out of curiosity, do you have a space on MySpace?
I could not find a link on here to send you a private E-mail to ask. Please E-mail me back so I can ask you another question.ThanksPeace allMac
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Comment #58 posted by FoM on June 20, 2006 at 13:45:19 PT
museman
Those are very powerful words.
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Comment #57 posted by museman on June 20, 2006 at 13:01:16 PT
I can sing no love songs.
By me circa 1989 (sorry no good recordings of this one)I can sing no love songs ‘bout how wonderful life could beIn a few fashioned years of teenage revelry.I can sing no lullabyes to the children of a wealthy world.Too many lie abandoned, frightened and ignoredI don’t deceive or tell you lies, look around with your own eyes.I can sing no praises about anytime in history,It seems no one ever learned the Truth would set them free.I can sing no anthems for any nation in the war,They never have reason about what the war is for.I won’t pretend, or put on an act. I sing about Truth and that’s a fact.I can sing no love songs, though I know you want me to.I can sing no love songs, ‘cause the one you’re expectin’Baby it just ain’t true.I can sing no whispers of moonlit starry nights,More like smog-filled reflections of the undying city lights.I can't sing you softly to fall into my arms,That was all yesterday when youth still had it’s charms.I ain’t playin’ don’t feel like a dance, or hidin’ sex behind ‘romance.’I can sing no love songs, though I know you want me to.I can sing no love songs, ‘cause the one you’re expectin’Baby it just ain’t true.alternate ending:I can’t sing no anthems to the glory of fools and war,I’m singin’ for all God’s children who don’t want this shit no moreCHORUS: (as written above)
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Comment #56 posted by FoM on June 20, 2006 at 12:51:39 PT
museman
I never heard that song.I liked this: Long hair, beard and sandals and a funky bunch of friends.
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Comment #55 posted by museman on June 20, 2006 at 12:45:17 PT
FoM
When truth was still popular, Kris Kristofferson:Jesus was a Capricorn, he ate organic foods.He believed in love and peace and never wore no shoes.Long hair, beard and sandals and a funky bunch of friends.Reckon they'd just nail him up if He come down again.'Cos everybody's got to have somebody to look down on.People they can feel better than at anytime they please.Someone doin' somethin' dirty, decent folks can frown on.If you can't find nobody else, then help yourself to me.Get back, John!Egg Head's cousin Red Neck's cussin' hippies for their hair.Others laugh at straights who laugh at freaks who laugh at squares.Some folks hate the whites who hate the blacks who hate the clan.Most of us hate anything that we don't understand.'Cos everybody's got to have somebody to look down on.Who they can feel better than at anytime they please.Someone doin' somethin' dirty, decent folks can frown on.If you can't find nobody else, then help yourself to me.Help yourself, brother. 
Help yourself, Gentlemen. 
Help yourself Reverend.
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Comment #54 posted by FoM on June 20, 2006 at 12:38:54 PT
whig
SAFER does have it right.
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Comment #53 posted by whig on June 20, 2006 at 12:34:41 PT
FoM
I didn't grow up in the hippie era, so I don't know more about it than I've heard, but I did experience the rave scene. Only cannabis can sustain this, I think. Psychedelics, whether LSD or MDMA cannot be a lifestyle because they cannot be part of the daily experience without becoming destructive, although they can give us a flash of something. But cannabis has always been our social tool, as alcohol is the social tool of the conservatives.SAFER has it exactly right.
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Comment #52 posted by FoM on June 20, 2006 at 12:17:40 PT
museman and whig
That's a shame that the song was lost. Sometimes it seems people blame the hippie generation for problems that weren't created by them. I had a dream and I believed in the dream and then cocaine entered the drug scene and my dream bubble burst. I knew it wasn't going to benefit people to be using coke. I was very sad and gave up everything, voted for Reagan and started going to church 3 times a week for years until I came to my senses.
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Comment #51 posted by whig on June 20, 2006 at 11:56:20 PT
Sex vs. Love
This is how they sell.Sex sells. Sex is what people aspire to.Love? What is Love?We know the difference. Sex without love is empty and worse than useless. It is destructive.
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Comment #50 posted by museman on June 20, 2006 at 11:42:49 PT
FoM
Boy are you right about the Coke. I watched a great many good men fall behind that. I even snorted with a few of 'em. Fortunately for me, cocaine never really did much for me, I could never get what the big deal was.A friend of mine wrote a song about it. Some of the lyrics;I've seen kings lose their thrones,
 
rich men lose all they've owned, over you.Some say that it's an angel in white,others bleed as they die and fight over you.Unfortunately the only recording was lost in a fire many years ago, and this is all I can remember.
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Comment #49 posted by museman on June 20, 2006 at 11:34:34 PT
afterburner #44
Thanks for the thumbs up. It does seem like something Neil might get behind. If you get to talk to Neil, mention that there are a lot of brothers in arms out here just waiting for the opportunity. Finance is always the stopgap, but I believe that it can be trimmed to within parameters that have a minimum of expense attached- after such initial investments as alternative power sources. I've envisioned a kind of 'plug-in' framework where alternative power source, as well as talent and equipment can be found at the local level, then utilized by something like R.A.W.I think that small outdoor concerts/gatherings on private land would be ideal, but unfortunately most people who have that kind of resource tend to give a lot of credence to propriety and it's attending corruptions. A lot of Faith and Belief is going to have to be manifest, a lot more of that than money, I assure you.
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Comment #48 posted by FoM on June 20, 2006 at 11:33:37 PT
museman 
I understand what you mean about love songs. Love is wonderful but music turned it more into something not edifying. Rock music became more centered on me me me and what he or she wants or is owed or something but not on something outside of the individual.  When music became more cocaine generated I stopped listening to it and stayed with what I always liked. To me it signified capitalism going wild because drugs like coke make people work all the time. That generation was powered by a powerful stimulant and now look at where we are now. 
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Comment #47 posted by museman on June 20, 2006 at 11:20:26 PT
FoM #34
Well that has 'bothered' me since about 1975 when the spirit of liberty, social justice, and truth of the '60's' music was replaced by love (sex) songs as the most profitable. I stopped writing love songs because of it, it disgusted me.The fact that those who continued to carry that spirit forth were ostracized from the 'top-forty' is all about money and little else, though I am sure that a bit of lobbying from conservative wealth had something to do with it as well. The infiltration and instigation of drug dealing CIA agents messed up a lot as well.Funny that you mentioned Britney Spears, I think she is the perrfect example of what is wrong with the music industry, but she is only one of many. As far as I can tell there actually aren't that many well known artists from 70's on who aren't bought and paid for. When Bono (U2) announced his support for Bush in 2001 I about choked to death on my dinner. What a disappointment!And of course those who really have something to say aren't getting airtime, because the fat-cat scene which is the industry is afraid of losing money. If they thought it was profitable to publish protest music, it would be all you would hear.Why should I have had to live my life in struggle and poverty because I chose (quite unprofitably) to be a writer of politically incorrect music? Why should I have had to juggle my time between various slave-labor jobs, and perfecting and performing my art? Why should any dedicated artist have to suffer thus? Greed, power, money, and a religious-political system which rewards corruption and shallow thinking.I used to be angry at the people who just went along with the program, supporting the status quo of the industry, the audience who is only interested in being in the 'social loop' and 'up to date' with the current trends, but after a while I realized that most people will take whatever you give them. If the radio plays Beethoven over and over and insists that it is 'America's #1' you'd be surprised how quick Beethoven would get into the Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame.The music industry, like so many others is geared to the younger generation, who will latch onto anything that supports their rebellious rejection of everything related to their parents generation. Of course there are exceptions; people who like music for it's own sake and aren't concerned about social graces in connection with it.I have dealt with prejudice since I chose to stop cutting my hair many many years ago. Once I even had a government officer of the State of Oregon OSHA, in connection with industrial poisoning on an oil industry work site, and in connection with discriminatory actions and attitudes, tell me "Don't you know that 'Hippies' are lower than ni--ers." (no offence meant to my black brothers but it's the truth, it's what the guy said!.)  I have been judged as 'low class' by people who claimed to be my brothers and sisters, because of missing teeth (which the Navy Corpsman thoroughly messed up for me.)   Pride and Pejudice go hand in hand. Propriety insists on it, and Power follows close behind...to protect that Pride and Property. Rule of law must be established, and the 'proper authority' set in place. What follows is what we got, it permeates all levels of existence.  
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Comment #46 posted by FoM on June 20, 2006 at 09:23:48 PT
Hope 
After reading your snake story I dug out Steve Earle's one record to listen to Copperhead Road.
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Comment #45 posted by Hope on June 20, 2006 at 08:57:31 PT
Small miracles
I've told you guys about the time I accidentaly and Graciously smashed a copperhead's head as I was coming off the front porch years ago. Today we found a copperhead just outside the backdoor...freshly dead and head mashed...my husband apparently stepped on it when he went out the back door. This one is just over a yard long! Aaaaargh....I'm just freaked out. It was at the back door...on the porch! Brrrrr...Seems like Grace to me....probably not to the snake...but it does to me.Everything is going to look like a snake to me for awhile. You just can't see the dang things. Dang. Dang. Dang.
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Comment #44 posted by afterburner on June 19, 2006 at 22:16:06 PT
museman #18, I Love your Idea
and if I win box seats to the CSNY concert and get (hope-hope) backstage passes, I will pass your idea along to Neil. Also, I know it's only a movie, but the grass roots approach, used by the Blues Brothers to get a concert to the people, was modeled on the small club scene once popular in Motown, Chi-town, and Harlem.A couple of years ago I was trying to get a folk club started but finances prevented me from reaching fulfilment. I am still interested in pursuing the dream.
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Comment #43 posted by FoM on June 19, 2006 at 21:50:50 PT
Whig
I am very happy to read that you are flying out. That would have been a very long drive.
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Comment #42 posted by whig on June 19, 2006 at 21:48:22 PT
FoM
We're excited. We still have to pack yet. The car is getting shipped and we're going to fly out on July 14.
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Comment #41 posted by runderwo on June 19, 2006 at 21:45:24 PT
E_Johnson
Dr. Grinspoon is tenured at Harvard Medical School. Something tells me that this is NOT a coincidence.
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Comment #40 posted by FoM on June 19, 2006 at 21:23:37 PT
Whig
Yes I did see the back and that is very cool that you used the words. Thank you. I think designer type T-Shirts for younger people are great. I know that you will be moving soon and I can imagine that you are getting excited. 
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Comment #39 posted by whig on June 19, 2006 at 21:13:24 PT
FoM
You can customize the design too, that's what I liked about Zazzle. I don't care about making anything on these T-shirts it's just a fun thing to do and they have a much nicer site than Cafepress since you can design it all with the web interface.You did see the back of the shirt too, right? :)
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Comment #38 posted by whig on June 19, 2006 at 21:08:22 PT
FoM
Okay, here's the fixed link:http://www.zazzle.com/product/235696860775719004
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Comment #37 posted by FoM on June 19, 2006 at 20:36:25 PT
BGreen 
The Food Network sounds like a winner. As far as watching O'Reilly that's something we avoid. When I see him which sure isn't often I yell at the TV. LOL!
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Comment #36 posted by BGreen on June 19, 2006 at 20:26:59 PT
I'm glad Stick is OK
That's always a scary thing to go through and to watch.Was he watching the o'reilly report again?I watch the Food Network an awful lot these days to prevent the "yelling at the TV" thing. LOLThe Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #35 posted by FoM on June 19, 2006 at 20:09:40 PT
Whig
I don't know how you would do it. I think Mrs. Whig is right and please tell her hello from us. She is a sweetheart. We just had a scary experience. Stick was yelling at the news and was drinking a soda and started choking. I almost called 911. He was close to passing out because he couldn't breath. He's ok now but totally drained. I'm glad this crisis is over. Don't drink soda and yell at the tv. It should be illegal. It is bad for our health. Maybe we should make a law. 
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Comment #34 posted by FoM on June 19, 2006 at 20:01:52 PT
museman
What bothers me is when I see Neil Young's music not being played on the radio and he is really famous then what hope is there for anyone getting music out? When I see Britney Spears given air time for whatever she is doing I think why. What makes her worthy of air time on the news? Maybe she made good and thoughtful music and I just never heard it. We live in a country that says it's free but then why can't I hear Neil Young on the radio? I first thought that he was too old and no one wanted to hear him anymore but then I saw Greendale and even though he took quite a chance with introducing new music and a play I saw how almost everyone loved him. I expect hecklers at CSNY this time. I think it will be a remarkable experience and full of emotions.
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Comment #33 posted by whig on June 19, 2006 at 19:52:56 PT
FoM
My wife says the saying on the front should cite the source. Maybe I should change it?I'm not sure how to cite the Rev. 3:9 on the other shirt though since I revised and updated the language.
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Comment #32 posted by FoM on June 19, 2006 at 19:48:47 PT
Whig
I really like the T-Shirt. Thank you. When you are in Berkeley that would fit in real well. 
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Comment #31 posted by museman on June 19, 2006 at 19:41:44 PT
FoM
Thanks for the link. I checked out the myspace place few weeks ago, but it seems too crowded for me. I like elbow room if I can find it. I don't fit in well with that...this other guy well a lot of what he says is right,...but his own claims of Neil missing it with the statement about 'waitng for the youngers to 'step up.' kind of showed me he missed some himself. Real live spirited 'protest' music is everywhere except prime time and mainstream. It's not in the old "mega-concert" concept that is still being used by the Industry to generate a lot of money in one place, at one time, it's everywhere else. It's in people's living rooms, back yards, and garages. Playing at the local University, or at the local Grange Hall, and sometimes the public park.I know why Neil Young is inaccessable, and unaware that there are numerous artistic cultures struggling all over this country for a place in the lineup, because I saw the spirit go out of it, as so many of us did, and the buying and selling of a dream. I understand that his (Neil's) success is his inaccessabilty, because by it's very nature bars the way to the 'common' of which I and many others are (though our talent may be as great or better). Including others into the scene is what I am looking for. I've seen enough 'exclusivity' to last me until I can prevent seeing any more. And I am a 'Missouri Mule" on top of that. A 'doubting Thomas.' I don't swallow things easily, nor am I easily impressed, most specially in this day and at my age.Which says a lot for Cnews. 
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Comment #30 posted by whig on June 19, 2006 at 19:35:25 PT
FoM
Since you asked, here's a little T-shirt design I just threw together:http://www.zazzle.com/product/235987175557660903
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Comment #29 posted by FoM on June 19, 2006 at 17:45:00 PT
museman
I thought you might appreciate this article.Why Neil Young is Wrong: http://progressive.org/mag_smith0706
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Comment #28 posted by FoM on June 19, 2006 at 16:09:48 PT
museman
Neil is on My Space. He has over 36, 000 friends on this link. Many of the people are musicians and have music and info on their link. I enjoy listening to the music and reading why they are into music and Neil Young. You might find something on here to help expand your idea. Just a thought.http://www.myspace.com/neilyoung
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Comment #27 posted by FoM on June 19, 2006 at 16:04:24 PT
A Very Encouraging Sign
Yes it is EJ.Richard that is very good news for you.
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Comment #26 posted by E_Johnson on June 19, 2006 at 16:02:59 PT
Okay has anyone noticed?
Correct me if I am wrong, someone, but I believe the name Yehoshua basically translates to Jesus.
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Comment #25 posted by E_Johnson on June 19, 2006 at 16:00:59 PT
A very encouraging sign
"Maor already has won international recognition for his work with cannabanoids, resulting from his collaborative work with Garry Milman, another Ph.D. student in the laboratory of Prof. Mechoulam, for the discovery of an endogenous compound found in the brain which causes vaso-relaxation.Maor begin a post-doctoral fellowship in the fall at the Harvard University Medical School, where he plans to continue his research."He won a postdoc at Harvard. Those are highly competitive. This is a good sign. This is a sign of credibility at the highest level in medical science. It means cannabinoid science is now regarded as a hot topic. Only people doing research into hot topics get hired at Harvard. They are very snooty over there.I wonder if Mechoulam will end up with a Nobel prize. Some day there will be a least one Nobel Prize given out for cannabinoid science. I am very certain of that now. Some day at least one Nobel Prize will go for cannabinoid science.Whoever gets this prize in the future will share it in spirit (with or without his consent) with all the rebels and misfits and sick and dying Americans who nurtured this plant and made such a fuss over it that the scientists were FORCED to study it and see what the hell we were ranting about.
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Comment #24 posted by Richard Zuckerman on June 19, 2006 at 15:55:08 PT:
MY BLOOD PRESSURE IS O.K.!
I've been alternating days of walking a few miles with bicycling. This morning, at the Soup Kitchen, a nurse took my blood pressure and concluded my blood pressure is "excellent"!!
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Comment #23 posted by FoM on June 19, 2006 at 15:50:40 PT
museman
I haven't gotten back with you before this because I have been trying to find a web site about musicians that protest but I can't remember the name so it's hard for me to find but I'll keep looking. I firmly believe that we should do what we feel lead to do. If I didn't feel that way I would have given up on doing CNews. I believe I am suppose to do CNews. As long as I feel that way even when the times are hard it doesn't matter. Being sensitive to that inner voice is very important and that is also what you are doing.
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Comment #22 posted by FoM on June 19, 2006 at 14:59:16 PT
Corn on The Cob
I am enjoying my first corn on the cob this year. It makes me feel really good. Why is it legal? LOL!
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Comment #21 posted by Toker00 on June 19, 2006 at 14:49:47 PT
Sick people should feel good while they heal.
" However, a drawback in the therapeutic use of cannabinoids has been its undesirable psychotropic properties - production of hallucinatory effects." Yeah. Undesirable. That's why ten's, if not hundreds, of millions of people the world over smoke it. It's THAT undesirable. And yeah, the hallucinatory effects of seeing the Truth in a line of Bull Sh*t really pisses us off and we can hardly stand it. (The only people who consider cannabis undesirable are those who profit from it being that way, and those who have been brainwashed to believe it is dangerous.)  The DEA would be better named the LEA. LIE ENFORCEMENT AGENCY. The only drawback to the use of ANYTHING cannabis, is the DEA. They are using the CSA to keep us from using what God put in nature FOR our use. Well, God said I could use it, so that's what I'm going to do.  God's will WILL be done.WHAT'S SO BAD ABOUT FEELING GOOD?ROCK AGAINST WAR!!! Wage peace on war. END CANNABIS PROHIBITION NOW! 
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Comment #20 posted by museman on June 19, 2006 at 13:56:59 PT
FoM
Don't say that! Of course you can be and are helpful. It's an idea. If it reaches the right ears, you never know. Because of a sort of challenge from whig (only sort of but I think he knows)I have decided to attempt a local 'rally'. I wanted to call it something like wholeearthfamily something or other, but the idea of RAW came rushing back into my conscious, and I think that that's the banner I am going to choose. More 'catchy' and universal.When I actually get the local logistics worked out I will post the information. However, in the mean time people who catch the idea can discuss it amongst themselves. Someone will come along who wants to make good use of some of that extra capital lying around collecting interest. I do not want to be in a 'leadership role', I just want the opportunity to make a meaningful contribution of my own gifts towards peace, prosperity and sanity on planet earth, so that when it comes time for me to go, I can go with some knowledge of success in these areas. I just want to play the music for anyone who will listen, and can dance to the tune of the truth. I want to see the new and fresh talent that is struggling right now with the same BS I've dealt with all my life concerning the music industry and the power of the wealthy to regulate even the ability of a loccal band to practice without the putdown of the establishment...I want to see those youngers get opportunity as well.RAW should be happening. Let the idea flow around a little. It's already happened at least once, so with enough expression of the idea, someone will see that it is their part to play, and it will happen. I just hope that when it does, (in a bigger way than just my local park) somebody invites me to participate.
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Comment #19 posted by FoM on June 19, 2006 at 13:21:11 PT
museman
That is a great idea. I have been thinking and can't come up with any helpful insight. I love music but have never been involved with it so I just can't help even though I wish I could. 
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Comment #18 posted by museman on June 19, 2006 at 12:38:01 PT
OT: an idea
I've been kicking around this idea for a number of years now, with very little grasp of the concept, though to me it seems like it should already be happening.In the 80's there was a phenomenon traveling around the country known as R.A.R. or "Rock Against Reagan."
Unfortunately the organizers were into punk music, so that was what most of the venues were, and it died after a couple of years. Their method and delivery was profound and very functional, and if they hadn't been so hung up on punk it might have grown instead of withered.Anyway, I want to participate in R.A.W. ROCK AGAINST WAR. RAW is war spelled backwards, and we all know that there are plenty of wars that are being backed and initiated by this governement.What this would take is someone with the resources to obtain a couple flatbed trailers with generators or preferably solar/wind power. There are plenty of musical artists that would love the opportunity, but unless they have signed away their soul to the industry, most of us are severely lacking in those kind of resouirces.I've been trying. At one point I had a bus with a stage on top of it, and the solar power to run a band for a few hours at least, but I could not get enough decent stage equipment to go any further. I lost my bus, and my panels were all severely damaged by the incessant wind in the San Louis valley in Colorado, but I have managed to get the sound equipment together.I am currently trying to find a relatively inexpensive diesel bus to convert to bio fuel, but being on a fixed income-below poverty level-from our richman government for my 'service to my country' (I personally spit on that phrase) I find it very difficult to move forward.This is my lifelong dream folks; to be part of a demonstrative musical/artistic event like RAW. I have an incredible lineup of young talented musicians-all dressed up and nowhere to go-as the saying goes. Between the industry (music) and local conservatism, all venues are controlled, regulated, and permit oriented, so the spirited music is not heard in public venues, only the politically correct, watered down renditions of familiar tunes from peoples various high school prom nites are acceptable.It happened with R.A.R. To me R.A.W. just seems too great of an opportunity to ignore and let slide. It would be great if someone with some clout got behind it. Neil comes to mind for obvious reasons, but you know, I've been trying to touch base with him for many years, but he is removed from general access.Maybe the idea can spread around, and someone will realize it's what they are supposed to do with those extra dollars they have lying around collecting capital gains. I realize this is unlikely because of the nature of a person who is that wealthy is usually too judgemental and full of their own self worth to get down in the dirt with the rest of us, but there may be a few who actually want to do something meaningful with their money, if so there are thousands of us just waiting for the chance to put our talents to work on something like this.If so you know where to find me, I know where the musicians are.RAW -IraqAfganistanWODWOTand the unspoken war on freethinkers, and truly spiritual people who will not compromise their faith and belief to support such false powers and authorities which have begun and perpetuated such atrocities.
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Comment #17 posted by FoM on June 19, 2006 at 12:05:30 PT
Hope
I will be very happy when the war on Cannabis ends. So many people have lost so much because of the war on marijuana. As far as the war on drugs go someday it will end but I honestly don't believe it will change in my lifetime. I think treatment versus incarceration I might live to see though. I look at it very realistically since I am a realist now after all these years.
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Comment #16 posted by Hope on June 19, 2006 at 11:56:08 PT
Blood Pressure
and the War on Drugs. Mine will likely lower noticably after prohibition and the War on Drugs ends. Not necessarily from cannabis use, either. I will be so glad when the persecution and death and horror of it are over. I'll be glad.
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Comment #15 posted by Hope on June 19, 2006 at 11:53:26 PT
Comment 7 Dongenero
You're right. It's part of their screed..."I think that the cannabis inexperienced prohibitionists have this perception that the effects of cannabis are a false overwriting of your personality, that you lose "yourself" and your "self" is replaced by a fabricated cannabis personality."You know all those happy people you've known in your lives that "seemed" like they were smoking marijuana, but they weren't? They are the ones who have an agreeable amount of natural cannabinoids moving through their bodies.It's wrong to deny those who are lacking the natural relief found in the cannabis hemp plant. What another beautiful gift from the Creator I believe in...and look how it's rejected and despised. Kind of like some other of his most beautiful gifts to human beings.Is the "Sanity" not coming that we've pleaded for, for so very, very long?"(A nod to gw. It's impossible not to recognize his influence in my last statement.)
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Comment #14 posted by FoM on June 19, 2006 at 11:53:15 PT
dongenero
I checked Sundance and it is on again tonight. I will watch it again. There is so much good stuff in this documentary.
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Comment #13 posted by FoM on June 19, 2006 at 11:50:12 PT
dongenero
Yes I watched it when it was on VH 1. It was great.
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Comment #12 posted by FoM on June 19, 2006 at 11:49:07 PT
Hope
Thanks! I've always thought that. What is so wrong about feeling good?
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Comment #11 posted by dongenero on June 19, 2006 at 11:47:32 PT
The Drug Years - on Sundance
FoM,That is exactly where the conflict with government arises.Have you watched "The Drug Years" specials on Sundance channel?
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Comment #10 posted by dongenero on June 19, 2006 at 11:44:50 PT
indeed.......good FoM
I think I'll make that my new motto if you don't mind.......What's so bad about feeling good?
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Comment #9 posted by FoM on June 19, 2006 at 11:44:03 PT
Cannabis Personality
Being mellow is a side effect of Cannabis but is that a bad thing? That doesn't mean a person can't remember important obligations like people can do under the influence of alcohol or other hard drugs. Mellow shouldn't be undesirable. I guess that helps create people who are peaceful and peaceful people don't like war. They don't like it when everyone isn't in a fighting mood it seems.
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Comment #8 posted by Hope on June 19, 2006 at 11:40:45 PT
FoM Comment 6
EXCELLENT idea! 
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Comment #7 posted by dongenero on June 19, 2006 at 11:35:18 PT
prohibitionist perception
I think that the cannabis inexperienced prohibitionists have this perception that the effects of cannabis are a false overwriting of your personality, that you lose "yourself" and your "self" is replaced by a fabricated cannabis personality.Those who are experienced know this is not the case. The irony is that those who most fear the change of perspective (the prohibitionists) are likely the most in need.In the case of some, such as Mark Souder et al, cannabis would probably be useless. Frontal lobotomy comes to mind as an option though. Or just let them stress themselves to death.Hmmm....I feel a bit guilty for saying that....okay, I'm over it now. 
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Comment #6 posted by FoM on June 19, 2006 at 11:34:27 PT
An Idea For a T-Shirt
I would really like to see people wearing a T-Shirt that said:What's So Bad About Feeling Good?
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Comment #5 posted by FoM on June 19, 2006 at 11:31:16 PT
Off Topic: New Yorker: Acid Redux
The life and high times of Timothy Leary.***By Louis MenandIssue of 2006-06-26Posted 2006-06-19The good Lord—or maybe it was natural selection, but, when you look at the outcome, how plausible is that, really?—gave us, in addition to the birds of the air and the beasts of the field, the fantastic variety of fungi with which we share this awesome planet: yeasts, rusts, mildews, mushrooms, and molds. Among them is ergot, a fungus that destroys cereal grasses, particularly rye, and that, when eaten, can cause hallucinations. Ergot is the natural source of lysergic acid, from which lysergic acid diethylamide is readily synthesized—LSD. What purpose, divine or adaptive, this substance might serve was once the subject of a learned debate that engaged scientists, government officials, psychiatrists, intellectuals, and a few gold-plated egomaniacs. Timothy Leary was one of the egomaniacs.Complete Article: http://www.newyorker.com/critics/books/articles/060626crbo_books
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Comment #4 posted by afterburner on June 19, 2006 at 11:22:25 PT
I Have a Theory
Namely, that the so-called hallucinations are symptoms of a system out-of-balance. With sufficient organic food (protein, essential fatty acids, complex carbohydrates, enzymes, and pro-biotics), local & seasonal foods, vitamin B-complex, and serotonin-producing potatoes, I rarely experience this so-called side effect, except in extremely high doses.Research, anyone?  
You Are All Sanpaku. 
by Ohsawa, George Dufty, William Translator: Dufty, William 
http://tinyurl.com/lpbfp
Binding: paperback. Publisher: KENSINGTON PUBLISHING. Country = USA. Date Published: 2002. ISBN: 0806524057. Description: BRAND NEW PAPERBACK. 208 x 139 mm. (224 pages). "the revolutionary book that first launched the macrobiotic revolution in 1965 is now back to reintroduce the condition called sanpaku, a grave physical and spiritual imbalance." (paperback)
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Comment #3 posted by FoM on June 19, 2006 at 11:18:34 PT
Exactly Dongenero 
The fact that an herb can make you feel good is by no means a negative. 
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Comment #2 posted by dongenero on June 19, 2006 at 11:17:06 PT
undesirable psychotropic properties?
I think the psychotropic properties are one of the most ovelooked medicinal benefits of cannabis.Excellent calming and stress reduction. Furtermore, I think the term "hallucinatory effect" is a gross overstatement for cannabis.The fact that an herb can make you feel good is by no means a negative. The toll that stress and negative feelings have on physical well-being is underestimated by many people.
Larry King recently had a panel of renowned physicians talking about the effects of stress, cortisol and the lack of love and support on one's well-being. All were unanimous in stating these factors cause aging, disease and illness.So, why not a highly benign herbal supplement that helps mitigate these factors. Is that immoral?
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Comment #1 posted by FoM on June 19, 2006 at 09:43:10 PT
The Whole Plant is Needed!
Excerpt: The cannabis plant - also known as hashish or marijuana – through its chemical compounds - cannabinoids - has been shown to have a beneficial, hypotensive effect. However, a drawback in the therapeutic use of cannabinoids has been its undesirable psychotropic properties - production of hallucinatory effects. Attempts to separate the hypotensive action from the psychotropic properties of cannabinoids have achieved only partial success until now.
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