cannabisnews.com: NORML's Weekly News Bulletin -- May 18, 2006 NORML's Weekly News Bulletin -- May 18, 2006 Posted by CN Staff on May 18, 2006 at 12:27:23 PT Weekly Press Release Source: NORML Second "Cannabis" Pill To Be Available In The USMay 18, 2006 - Rockville, MD, USARockville, MD: The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) this week re-approved a synthetic cannabinoid analogue for prescription use in the United States. The oral pill, marketed as Cesamet (also known as naboline), is an analogue (a structural derivative) of the cannabinoid THC. It will be available as a Schedule II controlled substance for the treatment of nausea and vomiting associated with cancer chemotherapy in patients who have failed to respond adequately to conventional anti-emetic treatments.Marinol (dronabinol), the only synthetic cannabinoid legally available on the US market, is classified as a Schedule III drug under federal law.Although Cesamet was initially approved by the FDA in 1985, it was later withdrawn from the market by then-manufacturer Eli Lilly for commercial reasons. The drug has been marketed as an anti-nauseant in Canada and the United Kingdom by Valeant Pharmaceuticals, which purchased the rights to Cesamet in 2004. According to the manufacturer, potential adverse reactions to the drug include ataxia (loss of ability to coordinate muscular movement), euphoria, headache, vertigo, increased heart rate, and concentration difficulties.Cesamet will be available in 1-milligram tablets, meant to be taken twice daily. Marinol (synthetic THC in sesame oil) is available in 2.5mg, 5mg and/or 10mg dosages.Though legally available in the US, few patients report positive experiences with Marinol because of its high price tag, delayed onset, and heightened psychoactivity.Mallinckrodt pharmaceuticals is currently developing a generic version of Marinol for sale in the US market.For more information, please contact Paul Armentano, NORML Senior Policy Analyst, at (202) 483-5500. Additional information on Marinol and synthetic THC is available in NORML's report: "Marinol vs Natural Cannabis: Pros, Cons, and Options for Patients," online at: http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=6635DL: http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=6910 Non-Psychoactive Cannabinoid Reduces Incidence Of Diabetes, Study SaysMay 18, 2006 - Jerusalem, IsraelJerusalem, Israel: Administration of the non-psychoactive cannabinoid cannabidiol (CBD) lowers incidence of diabetes in animals and may one day play a role in the prevention of human type 1 diabetes, according to preclinical findings published in the March issue of the journal Autoimmunity.Researchers at Hadassah University Hospital in Jerusalem reported that injections of 5 mg per day of CBD significantly reduced the prevalence of diabetes in mice from an incidence of 86 percent in non-treated controls to an incidence of only 30 percent. In a separate experiment, investigators reported that control mice all developed diabetes at a median of 17 weeks (range 15-20 weeks) while a majority (60 percent) of CBD-treated mice remained diabetes-free at 26 weeks.Investigators also reported that CBD significantly lowered plasma levels of the pro-inflammatory cykotines (proteins), INF-gamma and TNF-alpha, and significantly reduced the severity of insulitis (an infiltration of white blood cells resulting in swelling) compared to non-treated controls."Our results indicate that CBD can inhibit and delay destructive insulitis and inflammatory ... cykotine production in ... mice resulting in decreased incidence of diabetes," authors concluded.Preclinical trial data published earlier this year found that CBD prevents diabetic retinopathy in animals. The condition, which is characterized by retinal oxygen deprivation, is the leading cause of blindness in working-age adults.Cannabinoids have also been demonstrated to alleviate certain types of neuropathic pain associated with diabetes, and to reduce glucose levels in animal models of the disease.For more information, please contact Paul Armentano, NORML Senior Policy Analyst, at (202) 483-5500. Full text of the study, "Cannabidiol lowers incidence of diabetes in non-obese diabetic mice," appears in the March issue of Autoimmunity.DL: http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=6909Australian Government Urges States To Overturn Decrim Laws May 18, 2006 - Perth, AustraliaPerth, Australia: The federal government is endorsing a plan to implement nationwide uniform cannabis laws outlawing all possession or use of the drug, following a meeting of the Ministerial Council on Drug Strategy - the nation's top policy-making body on controlled substances.The new policy, which calls cannabis as dangerous as heroin and cocaine, urges states to revise existing laws decriminalizing the possession of small amounts of marijuana in favor of criminal penalties. Virtually all eight Australian states treat minor cannabis offenses as civil, not criminal, violations. In four states - South Australia, Western Australia, the Australian Capitol Territory (ACT), and the Northern Territory - cultivation of cannabis for personal use is also a non-criminal offense.Though government officials endorsed the policy change, they admitted that they lack the legal authority to compel states to overturn their more liberal cannabis laws.For more information, please contact Paul Armentano, NORML Senior Policy Analyst, at (202) 483-5500.DL: http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=6911Source: NORML Foundation (DC)Published: May 18, 2006Copyright: 2006 NORML Contact: norml norml.org Website: http://www.norml.org/CannabisNews NORML Archiveshttp://cannabisnews.com/news/list/NORML.shtml Home Comment Email Register Recent Comments Help Comment #231 posted by Hope on May 29, 2006 at 12:10:10 PT Afterburner Thank you, so much. I never thought about researching that thought, which I treasured as a revelation...to increase, hopefully, my understanding of that which I want to understand as fully as can be allowed. It's always a comfort to learn that a thought is shared by others. [ Post Comment ] Comment #230 posted by afterburner on May 29, 2006 at 07:37:20 PT Hope #116 "I see God as a living active being. A being that moves and thinks. He is wild. He is a consuming fire. He's wilder than any wild creature in creation. To think that He is a tame being would be a mistake, I think." Hope, that's a love-ly image. God created the wild. The wild places and the wild animals and the wild plants. God meets us in the wilderness. God is wild. I've been sharing your profound insight with those I know who might take it to heart (You know, don't cast your pearls before swine!). I even bookmarked your post. Here's a link you might find interesting. I googled "God is wild" and this is one of the hits:God is wild http://www.sbcrc.org/sermons/2001.08.26.html [ Post Comment ] Comment #229 posted by Hope on May 24, 2006 at 17:27:27 PT devastating...I'm very afraid for them http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v06/n665/a05.html?397 [ Post Comment ] Comment #228 posted by Hope on May 24, 2006 at 17:26:15 PT Totally down with you, gw http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v06/n664/a04.html?397 [ Post Comment ] Comment #227 posted by global_warming on May 24, 2006 at 14:43:09 PT But, Its Not Near long enough.. [ Post Comment ] Comment #226 posted by whig on May 24, 2006 at 04:20:39 PT Thread length Is this the longest thread yet on CNews? [ Post Comment ] Comment #225 posted by FoM on May 23, 2006 at 19:43:23 PT Hope I never felt secure on a horse that was under 16 hands. It's interesting how the horses are bred to fit the needs of the rider and sport or pleasure use. Jumps just don't look as large on a very tall horse. Something about Barbaro. I hope he makes it but it's really too early to know. Check this out. You can send Barbaro a message. I am amazed at the response to what happened to Barbaro. They will make a movie if he survives I know and will be more famous then if he had won the Triple Crown. Life is strange in how it works.http://www.vet.upenn.edu/barbaro/ [ Post Comment ] Comment #224 posted by Hope on May 23, 2006 at 19:35:57 PT The dogs are really amazing. I've had very protective dogs before, but none that ever acted like they really knew how to manage cattle. It's neat. My greatgrandfather used an English Bulldog as a cattle dog during the thirties. The smallish dog could throw a full grown bull or wild cow by biting it's nose and causing it to flip over on it's back or hang on to their tail to slow them down or turn them. It's less "alarming" to watch Catahoulas, Leopards, Australian shepherds, Border Collies and those brown speckled cow dogs. They work like cutting horses...turning and moving and blocking the animal. No nose biting or tail riding, which is a bit too exciting for my taste...but if they keep him from running over me...I love them. [ Post Comment ] Comment #223 posted by Hope on May 23, 2006 at 19:29:16 PT Bucking and spinning Once, we had a buckskin Original and he was sooo fat and had the roughest and most jarring run that you could feel the fat coat moving under the saddle...with the saddle. He would jar you so bad at a gallop or run that it was unbearable...but he could single foot and you could balance water on your head and he could go so fast at it. He sounded like a tap dancer going down the road at that gait. It was funny...unless you needed to pick up the pace.I know what you mean by the little horses getting things in a tight whirl really fast. I prefer a shorter horse...closer to the ground, if you do fall, and lower than tree branches. [ Post Comment ] Comment #222 posted by FoM on May 23, 2006 at 19:18:57 PT Hope I like how the dogs are protecting you. The cows didn't get through the patched fence today. The cows and bull went thru so many people's yards that someone must have called them. At least it wasn't us. A rearing horse is the most dangerous. They can come over on your so quick. Luckily I never had one do that to me but darn close.PS: You know why I always liked real tall horses? Because they can't buck and spin as quickly as a smaller horse. Their buck is easier to ride out. [ Post Comment ] Comment #221 posted by Hope on May 23, 2006 at 19:11:48 PT I've seen cow dogs, shepherds/collies work cattle and I had always heard how wonderful bull dogs were for working cattle in the old days, but I don't know of anyone that uses one for that purpose any more...but I saw it. It was a privilege to see. [ Post Comment ] Comment #220 posted by Hope on May 23, 2006 at 19:03:09 PT You can get stepped on, kicked, bitten, dragged off, bump heads with them...but the worst thing is rearing. They'll sqush you dead if they fall on you. [ Post Comment ] Comment #219 posted by Hope on May 23, 2006 at 19:00:58 PT "...my head hit his head." I think I have a dent in my forehead from forehead meets horse's occiptal bone at high speed. Mine was a "stunning" experience, too. [ Post Comment ] Comment #218 posted by Hope on May 23, 2006 at 18:56:16 PT FoM, Toker, BGreen, and gw "One time he reared straight up in the riding arena with me and I thought he was going to go over backwards." Most people don't realize it, growing up with the Lone Ranger, and Flicka, and Fury, but a rearing horse is one of the most dangerous things about fooling with horses...that and getting caught in the stirrup when you fall and being dragged by a runaway. I've lost my seat more than once, but it was a young stallion that was the only horse that literally got rid of me by managing to buck me off. Horses try to cooperate and they allow you to boss them around alot...but he wasn't having any part of my instructions that day and pulled a surprise rodeo on me. A stallion is more likely to just decide he's through fooling with you and go nuts.Pitt Bulls are bull dogs...no doubt. I heard about bulldogs working cattle years ago, but I never saw it until today. Another pitt bull showed up at the farm today and he watched that bull like he was the devil himself and turned him when he decide he was too close to me. I was petting the bull and turned to leave and there was the big pitt standing behind me watching the bull. He was excited and poised to spring, but he didn't say a word, then as I was walking near the fence the bull was following me and the dog put him a miniumum of three foot from the fence. He "told" him...voiciferously and the bull turned and he didn't chase him...he was satisfied that the bull turned. I was amazed and bragging on him as we walked away and he looked at me with understanding and closed his eyes at me like a cat and some dogs do...then he looked back at the bull and watched his every step until I was well away from from the bull. The new, visiting pitt bull belongs to someone else, but I would feel secure in open pasture with him around. Three pitt bulls...they really are working bull dogs...just like in the old days. They focus on the bull. They seem to know he's a trouble maker or something. Perhaps they are aware of my vulnerability...and my awareness of it. It's amazing to see. He didn't chase the bull, or hurt him, or the cows, although he obviously disliked the bull more than our dogs, who are used to him. He would ignore Salty, the bull, when he was told to...but he established perimiters and parameters and the bull didn't waste any time arguing with him about it! It was wonderful to see. Toker, I live closer to Dallas than Austin.BGreen, it would have been nice to give you a hug!gw, you are cranky, and I know you have reason to be...but I'd like you to be happier more, because...I'd like you to be happier more. I know it's hard. But it's good for you. [ Post Comment ] Comment #217 posted by BGreen on May 23, 2006 at 16:35:29 PT Sorry, Toker00, I just got home We left San Antonio this morning, flew all over the country, and then drove three hours, getting home less than an hour ago.Oh, well, it was a good thought.The Reverend Bud Green [ Post Comment ] Comment #216 posted by global_warming on May 23, 2006 at 15:24:18 PT comment 209 I hope I am not the crankiest man in the world!I do find moments where I can let go and not think about this servitude, this bondage, that has been placed on my shoulders, long ago.In fact, it is some of the interesting stories I read here at CNEWS that enlighten, illuminate and strengthen me, thank you all who are out there. [ Post Comment ] Comment #215 posted by FoM on May 23, 2006 at 09:32:26 PT Toker00 If you want to get in contact with one another and you need me to help you I will help. It's a darn shame we can't be comfortable posting e-mail addresses. Since Direcway changed names and I had to re-do my e-mail address I haven't received one piece of spam. I'm afraid to use it so I use yahoo e-mails all the time. [ Post Comment ] Comment #214 posted by Toker00 on May 23, 2006 at 09:26:40 PT BGreen You are about a hundred miles from me. You gonna be there this weekend? Three C-Newsers within one hundred miles of each other. Hope, you are close to Austin, aren't you? I think Taylor121 is a Texacan, too. Oh well, just thought it was interesting...Toke. [ Post Comment ] Comment #213 posted by paulpeterson on May 23, 2006 at 09:13:51 PT freewilks & Fom That comment #37 was very poignant & I thank you for thinking so fast and precisely. Yes, cannabis products will impact mightily on the overreactive immune system response that causes fatality in some infectious conditions.I, personally, have an underlying "allergy" to most types of pollens, especially lilac blossoms. In years where I am well treated with certain substances (historically, of course, since I am so far behind enemy lines right now), I have absolutely no reactivity at all. The inflammatory process is totally dampened and I forget about these seasonal afflictions entirely. I have for some time been of the subjective belief that with the coming conflagration borne of migratory bird transmission, which is a totally sure phenomenom, we might be the most protected population.In fact, the most prevalent and long-term mania about marijuana "bad effects" involves the assumption that the immune system response will be decreased in marijuana users.In other words, it is not just the for breakfast drink anymore, or don't leave home without it, to use a few well-known commercial messages which come to mind right now.Kudos to freewilks for making this obtuse observation. I would give him the prize for the most astute thinking observation of the day. And the prize is? your health and mine. paul peterson [ Post Comment ] Comment #212 posted by FoM on May 23, 2006 at 08:51:49 PT Hope I love your cow stories. My husband did too. I don't like being afraid of animals either but a young Bull or a Bull in general just aren't predictable. My male Rott is different then any of my female dogs I've had. The colt that I mentioned that needed surgery was a stallion at the time. I broke him but he always scared me. One time he reared straight up in the riding arena with me and I thought he was going to go over backwards. I got so far forward that my head hit his head and hard enough that it stunned me. I did a flying dismount which I learned how to do when I was a young rider. We lost a rider from Columbus a few weeks before that happened to me. Her dressage horse (also a german warm blood) reared and she hit her neck on a rafter somehow and she died instantly. I love horses but they must be respected for their power. [ Post Comment ] Comment #211 posted by Hope on May 23, 2006 at 06:38:28 PT If you can find a moment of peace or joy... enjoy it...it may be the last you see for a while. [ Post Comment ] Comment #210 posted by Hope on May 23, 2006 at 06:33:52 PT B Green... How long ya gonna be in state? [ Post Comment ] Comment #209 posted by Hope on May 23, 2006 at 06:32:41 PT gw You have to lay it down every once in a while or you won't have the strength to go on. At least that's true for me.It would do you good, as well, to lay it down every once in a while, even if it's just a very few minutes a day, to ease your tortured mind...and this is a tortuous situation and it is a burden we all bear. Some, like our dear Runruff are struggling under an extra heavy load. He's captive. I don't mean, don't worry about it all day. We can't do that. But you have to find some moments of joy and business to stay strong. This so called "drug war" pogram makes us all angry, sad, furious, frustrated, and bewildered at why they are doing the Drug War on people. Runruff and the countless others are always on our minds and burdening out heart with the wrongness of what has happened and is happening to them.Please, dear gw, you really don't have to be the crankiest man in the world all the time. In fact, you have to fight against it sometimes, for survival's sake. God's will for us is that we have "joy". When you get the chance, no matter how small...savor that joy. Look for it, even. [ Post Comment ] Comment #208 posted by Hope on May 23, 2006 at 06:14:26 PT The other day The cattle got into a neighbor's pasture. The gate was down. I don't know why.I had to wait out and away from the gate to head them back the way we wanted them to go...if they would. I was in open pasture and wasn't too keen about having to stand there and tell him where to go...or chase him. He doesn't chase well.Any way...I was worried and said a little prayer. When I took my post, after a moment, I looked around to notice the brother and sister large dogs had each taken up a post directly on either side of me and about eight feet distance exactly to either side of me. They took their positions, looked knowingly and lovingly at me, and sat there, like bookends, on either side of me, keeping a very watchful eye on the bull. It was so sweet. They are so smart. They knew what I was doing and they knew I was skittish, and they were there to guard either flank. (They can turn or distract the bull...and though they aren't trained to do it...they do it as though they just sense what to do. They know the bull well, too. They aren't cow dogs, they are big pitt mixes.)It was so cool. That was the same day I later fell down in the woods...and they were right there with me. It was touching. [ Post Comment ] Comment #207 posted by Hope on May 23, 2006 at 06:01:17 PT Trying to live.... I was watching the cows in the meadow the other day. They are pretty shining in the sun on spring grass. There seemed to be a set of triplet calves. All three tiny black calves with white hearts on their forehead. They may not have been triplets but they were all new and the same size. They are so beautiful. Our cattle are pets. Our baby bull is turning into a man bull and I don't like it. I made the mistake of scratching his head pretty deeply on top of his head along that ridge where he would have horns if he weren't a muley. Now he comes at me with his head lowered and shaking it for a scratching. I don't like it at all. It looks like he's threatening me. He's shown no signs of real meanness...but he's a bull, and he's young and got his mind on other things than being a big...gigantic baby. I HATE to be afraid of an animal. It makes me step in holes when I run backwards.BGreen...lol...thanks. In fact I was a "dream girl"...I didn't know it then. I looked like I was in my early twenties when I was eleven...except for the skinned knees from softball. A few grown men got very embarrassed when they found out they had been interested in dating an eleven or twelve year old girl. The fact that I wore my mother's class ring all the time didn't help. One of her co-workers got famously embarrassed and ribbed endlessly, after he had asked me out...I was with my mom and skipping school to go with her on a business trip. Thankfully, being an athletic farm girl, I could outrun nearly any one who got too shook up. Any guy older than seventeen was an "old man". I wasn't old enough to date...but I had suitors and admirers. Lol! We had to milk cows and hang around in hay fields all day...but it just meant the best suntan ever to us and was less boring than laying out. Then a swim in the late evening and lovely summer nights. Just "country boys and girls getting down on the farm". I didn't have my "dance hall days" until some years later. [ Post Comment ] Comment #206 posted by whig on May 23, 2006 at 01:19:32 PT OT: Interesting film Who wrote the Bible?http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2061773048178434620 [ Post Comment ] Comment #205 posted by global_warming on May 22, 2006 at 15:14:17 PT Have a GoodNight May the morrow bring good news,As the morrow rides on the heelOf the maker of tomorrow, [ Post Comment ] Comment #204 posted by global_warming on May 22, 2006 at 15:01:35 PT I Agree Respect is important,How far can you spit?How far can you piss?In the face of the AlMighty? [ Post Comment ] Comment #203 posted by FoM on May 22, 2006 at 14:54:24 PT global_warming I gave up going to church because I don't like being preached at. It isn't necessary. I was taught not to push religion on people. It's not polite. No one knows another person's beliefs and they should be respected. [ Post Comment ] Comment #202 posted by global_warming on May 22, 2006 at 14:48:54 PT are you free? what do you want to be told? [ Post Comment ] Comment #201 posted by FoM on May 22, 2006 at 14:30:02 PT global_warming My mental health is fine but bringing up negative things doesn't help anyone. I don't want to be told about eternity or religion because I won't listen. I have my own private beliefs. Most people have opinions in that area and I respect them for their feelings. [ Post Comment ] Comment #200 posted by global_warming on May 22, 2006 at 14:24:43 PT re: your mental health health and Grace of 'our Gifts,has an infinite well,that is pouring throughthis world,you can catch the waveto Eternity. [ Post Comment ] Comment #199 posted by FoM on May 22, 2006 at 14:08:26 PT global_warming I don't know what your last comment has to do with what we were talking about. I prefer thinking about more positive things then negative. I don't want to think about what is depressing all the time. It isn't good at least for my mental health. [ Post Comment ] Comment #198 posted by global_warming on May 22, 2006 at 13:43:45 PT re: they go moo pity,for the runruffs, kubbys and emorys,who have been taken away,into this dark part of our world, [ Post Comment ] Comment #197 posted by FoM on May 22, 2006 at 13:24:19 PT global_warming I am confortable here and I do know what you mean. My husband is fixing the fence today. They really are pretty cows. They have beautiful big brown eyes and go moo. So cute. [ Post Comment ] Comment #196 posted by global_warming on May 22, 2006 at 13:14:54 PT re:187 That is a great picture, the neighbors cows, I could be so comfortable in the middle of this picture.. [ Post Comment ] Comment #195 posted by FoM on May 22, 2006 at 13:10:35 PT global_warming I think in times of trouble when we see a beautiful animal with a generous heart break his leg and knowing that he might not make it touches people that aren't even horse people. They could have put him down on the track and collected the insurance but that isn't Michael Matz's way. He loves horses and money is secondary to the animal. I know he isn't the owner but the owner would know that is how Michael is and probably are the same way as Michael. I hope Barbaro makes it. He has a long way to go with many possible problems that could end it all. [ Post Comment ] Comment #194 posted by global_warming on May 22, 2006 at 13:03:55 PT I was all choked up reading this morning about the surgery, nice picture [ Post Comment ] Comment #193 posted by FoM on May 22, 2006 at 13:02:37 PT Hope How can I be mad at these cute cows? [ Post Comment ] Comment #192 posted by BGreen on May 22, 2006 at 13:02:13 PT Oops! I missed the 11-year-old part of your post.Sorry!The Reverend Bud Green [ Post Comment ] Comment #191 posted by BGreen on May 22, 2006 at 13:00:32 PT Oh my gosh, what a mental picture Hope in a swimsuit on a tractor. That's a farm boy's dream girl. ;-PThe Reverend Bud Green [ Post Comment ] Comment #190 posted by Hope on May 22, 2006 at 12:59:54 PT Slow speed stampede! Cows can be as fun to watch...maybe more so than fish. If they are fat and content. It's not fun to watch cattle in a feed lot. [ Post Comment ] Comment #189 posted by FoM on May 22, 2006 at 12:59:52 PT Thanks global_warming Nice Pictures of Barbaro. http://tinyurl.com/qbwbm [ Post Comment ] Comment #188 posted by global_warming on May 22, 2006 at 12:53:14 PT 2012 I read the good news this morning about the horse, cnn did a nice article, I hope it goes well in the next couple of weeks. http://tinyurl.com/q5bxsFunny how them 'oldies can help to forget how this tired world has come so far and yet our prisons are so full of drug abusers, in this our world.If you have 20 minutes, consider viewing this video..http://homepage.mac.com/jagbodhi/iMovieTheater6.html [ Post Comment ] Comment #187 posted by FoM on May 22, 2006 at 12:49:24 PT Hope My husband took a picture of our neighbors cow walking down our driveway today. That's our barn but not our house. Check it out. LOL!http://gallery.marihemp.com/album08/May_22_2006_023 [ Post Comment ] Comment #186 posted by Hope on May 22, 2006 at 12:39:19 PT Eleven going on seventeen. Is about how old I was. My cousin and I spent full days on a tractor in bathing suits...even two piece...even then, working on that tan in a hay field. My cousin still gets that tan.Chubby Checker was appearing on American Bandstand that year. We thought he was "cute". Baling time we had boys...working on sun tans, too, in the hot Texas summer sun.whooo Who Who Who Whooooo Who:0)Running wild. [ Post Comment ] Comment #185 posted by FoM on May 22, 2006 at 12:35:27 PT Hope They were simplier days. I don't miss them though. I miss the music that protest songs stirred in me. Like Woodstock, Ohio, Give Peace a Chance, Power to the People and more that I just can't think of now. [ Post Comment ] Comment #184 posted by Hope on May 22, 2006 at 12:30:17 PT Did something with the fence... not necessarily good, but slightly better than it was for the moment. [ Post Comment ] Comment #183 posted by Hope on May 22, 2006 at 12:27:35 PT Simpler days... :0)Respite... with a beat. [ Post Comment ] Comment #182 posted by Hope on May 22, 2006 at 12:26:25 PT The message is Girrrrlllll!I'll take care of you!You are my girl!And no one can hurt you. [ Post Comment ] Comment #181 posted by Hope on May 22, 2006 at 12:25:13 PT Duke of Earl It is so fun to lip sinc...and sing.Oh Oh Oh wa!I know I'm gonna love you!Oh! Oh! [ Post Comment ] Comment #180 posted by FoM on May 22, 2006 at 11:45:31 PT Hope I don't think Duke of Earl was played at Woodstock but I only have the movie of Woodstock and it wasn't on it. Duke of Earl is a nice song and I liked it but it doesn't have a message. Most of the music from Woodstock had a message. [ Post Comment ] Comment #179 posted by FoM on May 22, 2006 at 11:34:03 PT Hope They aren't playing the Dixie Chicks on Country Radio Stations I've read. People don't like their message because it is Anti Bush and Pro Peace. This is the same type censorship that kept the south from hearing great anti war protest music from the 70s. Music can help change situations but it can't if we never hear it. I love protest music. It stirs me and politics just don't. I am not alone. We think young people don't care about Bush or the War but they aren't given the opportunity to hear music that can help change this mess we are in. That's so wrong to me. That's immoral. They won't play Living With War either. Something is really wrong when censorship is this obvious. [ Post Comment ] Comment #178 posted by Hope on May 22, 2006 at 11:21:52 PT Don't you have any comment on the Dixie Chicks? I haven't heard them in some time. They are wonderful performers,singers, musicians, dancers, writers. They are amazing. I think lately I'm enjoying music from my childhood. Listening to Duke of Earl right now."Nobody can stop me now!"Duke of Earl was sang at the first Woodstock wasn't it?Iremember seeing it sung on American bandstand when I was really young...it was so cool. He had a cape, gloves, cane, and top hat. It was so cool.I can't recall his or thier name right now and I don't have time to look for it. Chores...just popping in...not even sitting down. [ Post Comment ] Comment #177 posted by FoM on May 22, 2006 at 10:49:27 PT BGreen Thank you and the feeling is mutual. [ Post Comment ] Comment #176 posted by FoM on May 22, 2006 at 10:48:22 PT Hope We are fixing fence today to maybe. The cows are back about 20 of them with a big Black Angus bull with them now. I run out and chase them with a broom up in the air and they look at me like what do you want. LOL!Don't you have any comment on the Dixie Chicks? They are doing a great job and it must be hard on them for taking this stand.I love veterinary medicine particularly for large animals. It's impressive how we can do what we can do to save large animals rather then just giving up and destroying them. [ Post Comment ] Comment #175 posted by Hope on May 22, 2006 at 10:45:06 PT B Green You might find that song an amazing song to dance with Mrs. Green. [ Post Comment ] Comment #174 posted by Hope on May 22, 2006 at 10:41:25 PT Could This Be Magic? http://www.lyricsondemand.com/a/all4onelyrics/couldthisbemagiclyrics.html [ Post Comment ] Comment #173 posted by Hope on May 22, 2006 at 10:37:47 PT Barbaro's surgery He probably dreamed he was floating around in a safe dark place. Maybe he dreamed he won the race.Went to fix some fence and couldn't alone. *sighe*Think I'll listen to Yakety Yak do some chores.Love you all. [ Post Comment ] Comment #172 posted by Hope on May 22, 2006 at 10:30:39 PT comment 166 FoM. Thank you. How amazingly simple. I was thinking slings and pulleys and heaven knows...and that didn't occur to me. That is so excellent and simple and perfect.I really enjoyed just hearing an ancient but beautiful tune...Could This Be Magic? by All-For-OneIn fact...I think I'll listen to it again. [ Post Comment ] Comment #171 posted by BGreen on May 22, 2006 at 10:25:23 PT Thanks, FoM I'm proud to have you as a friend.The Reverend Bud Green [ Post Comment ] Comment #170 posted by FoM on May 22, 2006 at 10:16:56 PT BGreen And I too am proud that you are a musician.Streaming TTLW: http://www.dixiechicks.msn.com/Streaming LWW: http://www.hyfntrak.com/neilyoung2/AFF23303/ [ Post Comment ] Comment #169 posted by BGreen on May 22, 2006 at 10:10:02 PT I used to not care for the Dixie Chicks, but I got goosebumps when I heard their newest single, so I already had plans to buy their album as well as "Living With War."I'm so proud to be a musician because of artists like the Dixie Chicks and Neil Young!The Reverend Bud Green [ Post Comment ] Comment #168 posted by FoM on May 22, 2006 at 10:03:56 PT Talking About Texas I just posted this on another thread. Please buy their music!The Dixie Chicks are following Neil Young's lead and have their new record streaming on their web site. I read where Neil Young challenges Country Channels to play it. It is number one in sales on Amazon.Play this music! Stop censoring us.Play Living With War too!http://www.dixiechicks.msn.com/http://cannabisnews.com/news/21/thread21863.shtml [ Post Comment ] Comment #167 posted by BGreen on May 22, 2006 at 09:57:42 PT I'm south of Austin, north of San Antonio I heard Kinky Friedman say he would appoint Willie Nelson as Secretary of Energy if Kinky was elected governor of Texas, so I consider Willie a representative of the entire state. He was declared a True Texas Hero by Governor Richards a few years ago.I also heard the 61-year-old Friedman say "I'm too young for Medicare, and too old for women to care." LOLThe Reverend Bud Green [ Post Comment ] Comment #166 posted by FoM on May 22, 2006 at 07:31:20 PT Hope When my horse had orthopedic surgery it wasn't as advanced. What they did was give my horse a tranquilizer but not enough for him to go down. They walked him into a room with a big operating table that had straps. They have the IV in the neck and ready to shoot more drugs in if he panics. They push the horse close to the table and they strap them to the vertical table. Very quickly once they know he is secure they give him a knock out dose and the horse goes limp. Then the table rotates until the horse is laying on the table sideways. Then it moves on a track to the operating room. After surgery they are moved on the track to a padded cell and the table slopes and the horse is gently slide into the padded room. Now they use slings and the legs and body go down into the water. They are fully asleep and as they wake up if they thrash in the water ( they are not in the water but rubber boots of sorts and keep the temperature at 97.) They keep an IV in the neck for medicine or if he needs to be knocked out again.Removing from Water: http://www.bloodhorse.com/images/BarbaroPoolInset.jpgAfter Surgery in Intensive Care with IV: http://www.bloodhorse.com/images/BarbarStallUPAP.jpgX- Ray After Surgery: http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/060522/photos_ts/2006_05_21t232632_344x450_us_horse_racing_barbaro [ Post Comment ] Comment #165 posted by Hope on May 22, 2006 at 05:33:52 PT Check out the last 3 paragraphs of this article. The last sentence most especially.http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/05/21/D8HODD7G0.htmlThe article is called 1 in 136 U.S. Residents Behind Bars.The last three paragraphs of article: "It's not a sign of a healthy community when we've come to use incarceration at such rates," he said.Mauer also criticized sentencing guidelines, which he said remove judges' discretion, and said arrests for drug and parole violations swell prisons."If we want to see the prison population reduced, we need a much more comprehensive approach to sentencing and drug policy," he said. [ Post Comment ] Comment #164 posted by Hope on May 22, 2006 at 04:27:50 PT Horses in water and the King Ranch I saw the King Ranch area when I was a kid. Take that scrubby mostly dirt look in that picture and multiply it millions of times and throw a fence up around it and there's the King Ranch! When you were talking about a horse thrashing after waking up, I wondered why they couldn't manage to have him wake up in water. I know they have pools for therapy and training for horses. How do they get a horse on the operating table? [ Post Comment ] Comment #163 posted by Hope on May 22, 2006 at 04:20:50 PT BGreen! Texas! I was in Missouri a couple of weeks ago and I thought about you...although we were no were near where you live. I guess, by mentioning Willie, you must be around Austin. [ Post Comment ] Comment #162 posted by BGreen on May 21, 2006 at 23:11:04 PT Goodnight, FoM I'll be in touch.The Reverend Bud Green [ Post Comment ] Comment #161 posted by FoM on May 21, 2006 at 23:07:01 PT BGreen I know what you mean about no bed better then your own and I'm missing keys as I type this so I'm done for the day. Michael Matz's wife is an heir to the King Ranch. I'd like to see it if I ever went back to Texas. Race horses that are superior like Barbaro is will have a great life but most become dog food sadly.http://www.king-ranch.com/ [ Post Comment ] Comment #160 posted by BGreen on May 21, 2006 at 22:53:34 PT Yee haw, you betcha that's how the Texans say hi Yes, we're having fun, but there's no bed like your own. We've eaten out almost every meal so I feel somewhat bloated, but I've had worse problems than that to contend with.I guess I should have called this post the "yes, but" post. LOLIf only us humans could have retirement as good as a race horse stud. I bet you the guys would be trying to retire before they were 30. :)The Reverend Bud Green [ Post Comment ] Comment #159 posted by FoM on May 21, 2006 at 22:40:18 PT Howdie BGreen! Is that how they say hello in Texas? It is sad what happened to Barbaro. If he can make it for a few more weeks he might make it. I learned about how they ( New Bolton Center ) put the horse in the water so when they come out of the anesthetic if they thrash they can't do damage because of the water resistence. Coming out of anesthetic is really tough. They used a rope attached to the wall in my colts stall and a couple people came in and pulled on the rope thru a ring on the wall until he stood up. The leg has to be able to bear weight. Only live cover is allowed with thoroughbreds. No artificial insemination is every allowed. They said his stud fee will be around $50,000 and he should be able to cover 60 mares a year for many years. It will be a good life for him if he makes it. I hope you are having fun in Texas. [ Post Comment ] Comment #158 posted by BGreen on May 21, 2006 at 22:23:27 PT Hey, y'all I'm down in the Lone Star state, the stompin' grounds of some of the greats like Willie Nelson and our own beloved CNews.com family member, Hope.I haven't had a chance to see what you have been talking about, but I just wanted to check in and say a big 'howdy.'I saw the horrible picture of Barbaro on the front page of the paper today and it brought me to tears. I thought he was going to be put down, and then after I read the comment from whig I checked the latest news and I've got to tell you, it brought tears of joy to my eyes.I'll be able to join back in on a regular basis when I get back home, but I'll be online tonight for a while if anybody wants to shout back.Take care!The Reverend Bud Green [ Post Comment ] Comment #157 posted by FoM on May 21, 2006 at 18:42:49 PT Thanks Whig That's a miracle. Intensive Care is really something. We've heard kidding about padded cells but the stalls are heavily padded so if they thrash they can bounce a little and if they fall it doesn't usually hurt them unless they snap out and high strung horses can do that. You should see how they get a horse on an operating table. It's amazing. [ Post Comment ] Comment #156 posted by whig on May 21, 2006 at 18:13:47 PT FoM I just read that Barbaro is out of surgery (7 hours) and standing. [ Post Comment ] Comment #155 posted by FoM on May 21, 2006 at 16:09:25 PT Hope Yes they are noble creatures. I feel bad because of the whole thing. Michael was raised near Reading Pa and I was very familiar with Shillington where he grew up. I had friends that lived in Shillington. I use to think I was born in the wrong century. Cars don't impress me but a good horse does. Horses were our means of transportation before the age of cars. We had a big German Bred colt ( 17 - 2 about 1800 pounds) we raised that popped his hock by kicking in the stall and he put his foot thru the wall but got stuck in the wall. We finally freed him but we had to take him to The Ohio State Animal Hospital for surgery. We were able to see thru a window the surgery except it was draped so we didn't see everything. I think getting to see a big horse hospital is an exerience for people who love animals. I saw a trailer pull up while we were there that time ( I had other horses there too at different times) and they had a small elephant on it that had an abcessed tooth and needed it pulled. Coming out of the anesthetic is the dangerous part because the horse thrashes and sometimes destroys what the surgery tried to accomplish. [ Post Comment ] Comment #154 posted by Hope on May 21, 2006 at 15:45:33 PT FoM Comment 139 It is distressing. I can really understand your grief at what happened to your horse. And knowing Matz has to make this Barbaro business even worse...and it's bad enough anyway. Horses are so fragile. I looked at the fetlock illustration and read the article. It sounds bad...so he's not out of the woods yet. We should be hearing something soon, depending on how long the surgery takes.They are such noble creatures. They break your heart when they are hurt. [ Post Comment ] Comment #153 posted by global_warming on May 21, 2006 at 15:28:49 PT sleep for a while Cannabis, has that gentle hand,When my face,Offers that hand,My Grace into Eternity, [ Post Comment ] Comment #152 posted by global_warming on May 21, 2006 at 15:17:28 PT again ad again These are the words (and original title) as sung by the author Eric Bogle at the Cottage Theatre Folk Club, Cumbernauld on 19th Feb, 1977. All other versions are corruptions :-) Iain Mackintosh (to my mind) does the *best* cover version. (But I would say that as he's a friend). Chords are what I play (to Eric's tune). Most "modern" (post 1980) versions are based on the Furey's version which as I told you before is very different. They also changed the title between "Willie McBride" and "Green Fields of France" Bogle calls it "No Mans' Land" on his "Plain and Simple" record with John Munro.Enjoy it - but for god's sake, don't Wild Rover it (i.e. don't get them all swinging to the chorus). You should finish it with a lump in your throat.Slainte (my only word of Gaelic)Howard Evans.William McBride(c)Well how do you (F) do Private (Dm) William McBride Do you (G7) mind if I sit here down(C) by your grave(G7)side And I'll (C) rest for a (F) while in the(Dm) warm summer sun I've been (G7) walking all day and(F) I'm nearly (C) done And I see by your gravestone you were(Dm) only 19 When you(G7) joined the glorious fallen back in (c)1916 (G7) Well I (C) hope you died quick and I (F) hope you died (Dm) clean Or (G7) Willie McBride was it (F) slow and obscene (C)Did they (G7) beat the drum slowly Did they (F) play the fyfe (C)lowly Did the (G7)rifles fire o'er you As they (F) lowered you (C) down Did the (F) bugles play the Last Post in (Dm) chorus Did the (C) pipes play the (F) Flooers o the (G7) Forrest (C)And did you leave a wife or a sweetheart behind In some faithful heart does your memory enshrine And though you died back in 1916 In some faithful heart are you forever 19 Or are you a stranger without even a name Enshrined forever behind the glass pane Of an old photograph, torn and tattered and stained And fading to yellow in a brown leather frameAh the sun's shining now on these green fields of France The warm winds blow gently and the red poppies dance The trenches have vanished under the plough No gas and no barbed wire, no guns firing now But here in the graveyard it's still No-Man's Land The countless white crosses in mute witness stand To Man's blind indifference to his fellow-man To a whole generation who were butchered and damnedAnd I can't help but wonder now William McBride Do all those who lie here know why they died Did you really believe them when they told you the cause Did you really believe that this war would end wars Well the suffering and the sorrow and the glory, the shame The killing the dying, the dying, it was all done in vain For Willie McBride, it all happened again And again, and again and again and again. [ Post Comment ] Comment #151 posted by global_warming on May 21, 2006 at 15:02:08 PT are you ready for this journey? [ Post Comment ] Comment #150 posted by global_warming on May 21, 2006 at 14:31:22 PT thanks fom "My God, they made us the cops",Catching up, this parody and satyr,Of our very 'own selves,Comedy and Art is not enough,To persuade these 'money tokers,Complete civil shutdownCan dry out the nests, [ Post Comment ] Comment #149 posted by FoM on May 21, 2006 at 11:34:35 PT Hope I thought you might want to see this article. There's a diagram of the leg. He broke his cannon bone, sesamoid bone and the pastern. If they save him it will be a miracle.http://tcm.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=33664 [ Post Comment ] Comment #148 posted by FoM on May 21, 2006 at 09:49:12 PT Sam I really hope that because she has a Canadian born child that they will leave her stay with her husband and little one. Somewhere, someone must think with compassion. [ Post Comment ] Comment #147 posted by Sam Adams on May 21, 2006 at 09:45:00 PT Renee Boje I think she was guilty of not only watering but "moving plants around". It is very sad. She's still hiding in Canada, our government wants her in jail for 10 years. ASA's last newsletter said over 30 individuals are currently awaiting indictment or prosecution by the federal government of America for getting the herb to sick people in California. [ Post Comment ] Comment #146 posted by FoM on May 21, 2006 at 09:02:53 PT Thanks Sam I have the article posted now.http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread21863.shtml [ Post Comment ] Comment #145 posted by FoM on May 21, 2006 at 08:58:13 PT Sam Like Mrs. Runruff said he is in prison for watering a plant. I want to cry sometimes about all this. I get angry but it makes me sad more then anything. [ Post Comment ] Comment #144 posted by Sam Adams on May 21, 2006 at 08:47:31 PT FOM Sorry, good point about Runruff, and of course even more absurd.A conviction for growing is really a conviction of God, isn't it? Nobody on earth can "make" plants grow, they do it themselves. All people do is watch. [ Post Comment ] Comment #143 posted by FoM on May 21, 2006 at 08:44:46 PT Sam That is really sad. I just wanted to say this. Runruff was charged for growing not sales. [ Post Comment ] Comment #142 posted by sam adams on May 21, 2006 at 08:43:52 PT article FOM - here's a great one of the failure of Plan Columbia:http://www.boston.com/news/world/latinamerica/articles/2006/05/21/4b_later_drugs_still_flow_in_colombia/ [ Post Comment ] Comment #141 posted by Sam Adams on May 21, 2006 at 08:42:38 PT prison Saw this in the Boston Globe this week and immediately thought of runruff:DRUNK DRIVER GETS 18 MONTHS FOR FATALITY Date: May 18, 2006 Page: B2 Section: Metro/Region Derek M. Coughlin, a Burlington man who struck and killed a 4-year-old boy while driving drunk on Interstate 495, was sentenced yesterday to 18 months in prison followed by 10 years of probation. Coughlin, 35, a self-employed screen printer, pleaded guilty to charges of causing serious bodily harm and motor vehicle homicide while operating under the influence of alcohol. On Oct. 7, 2004, Coughlin lost control of his Honda Pilot and crashed into a disabled Buick parked in the breakdown lane in Andover. Nicholas Bailey Drolet of Merrimac was in the back seat of the Buick and was killed; his mother, Dawna Blood, suffered serious injuries. Blood and Nicholas's father, David Drolet of Haverhill, shouted "No justice!" as Essex Superior Court Judge Peter W. Agnes Jr. handed down the sentence. Blood had made a tearful plea for a sentence of at least five years, and Assistant District Attorney William J. Melkonian had requested a five- to seven-year prison term----------------So, if runruff had actually killed someone, he would have been jailed here in Mass. for only 1 1/2 years instead of the 2 years he got for selling his flowers to eager customers. [ Post Comment ] Comment #140 posted by FoM on May 21, 2006 at 08:39:39 PT News Hopefully someone will write a good article but it has been very slow. I hope the organizations are working hard and have something planned to move us along. [ Post Comment ] Comment #139 posted by FoM on May 21, 2006 at 07:48:31 PT Hope I couldn't sleep last night very well. I kept seeing Barbaro and Michael and his people at New Bolton Center making one of the hardest decisions a horse person has to make. I had a horse loaned to a young girl and I got a call at work that he flipped over backwards and couldn't get up. I rushed to the farm and we cried and cried watching him struggle to get up. He couldn't get up though. He broke his neck. Everyone stopped and looked at me and I knew I had to make the decision to destroy him. It was horrible. Then we had to bury him and he was over 16 hands. Horses are wonderful and I will always love them but they sure can break your heart. [ Post Comment ] Comment #138 posted by FoM on May 21, 2006 at 07:42:03 PT afterburner I have seen Noam Chomsky on World Link TV. That is a good channel. They cover news that is important to know. It's hard to watch because it is blunt but it is necessary. Where would we be without the Internet? Things are bad now but they could be so much worse if Bush was in power before the Internet. [ Post Comment ] Comment #137 posted by FoM on May 21, 2006 at 07:38:13 PT Toker00 I'm sorry to read about the accident. I'm glad you got an econo-car. We will have a wonderful time at the CSNY Concert. I love the name of the tour. Freedom of Speech 06. We will buy a couple t-shirts that day. Thank God for Neil Young and Crosby, Stills and Nash. I know this will be one of the most memorable events in my life so far. Living With War has been a real wake up call. I'm awake! [ Post Comment ] Comment #136 posted by afterburner on May 21, 2006 at 06:07:20 PT FoM RE Comment #83 "We have laws to protect us from having the USA polluted and instead of companies fixing what they needed to fix they moved to another country."I just discovered another interesting book by Noam Chomsky: Failed States (2006).Democracy Now! | EXCLUSIVE...Noam Chomsky on Failed States: The ...Noam Chomsky on Failed States: The Abuse of Power and the Assault on Democracy ... Failed States, what do you mean? NOAM CHOMSKY: Well, over the years there ... http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/03/31/148254Democracy Now excerpt: "It examines how the United States is beginning to resemble a failed state that cannot protect its citizens from violence and has a government that regards itself as beyond the reach of domestic or international law."Amazon.com: Failed States : The Abuse of Power and the Assault on ...Noam Chomsky FAILED STATES From the Afterword You may never find a book that starts off as deeply angering, becomes by the middle as powerfully saddening, ... http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0805079122?v=glanceEditorial Reviews From Publishers Weekly excerpt: "Ranging haphazardly from the Seminole War forward, Chomsky's jeremiad views American interventionism as a pageant of imperialist power-plays motivated by crass business interests." [ Post Comment ] Comment #135 posted by Toker00 on May 21, 2006 at 04:24:23 PT Got a letter from Randy Brush Another brother beaten by the Devil. Beaten, but not beat. He is doing something like runruff is doing. He is teaching everyone at his "facility" how to grow the kind herb cheaply. Randy got busted for growing his medicine. For being sick, with a green thumb, he says. Our letters do provide a relief of sorts to our brothers and sisters. It let's them know they are not forgotten. That what they are there for is NOT a crime, that the REAL criminals are the ones who hold the keys to their cells, and profit from cannabis prohibition. And that's a lot of folks, folks.FoM, I bought my wife a new econo-car. That will make my trip to see Young, Crosby, Stills, and Nash much more affordable. My quad cab pickup would have drained my fuel budget. A young man pulled in front of my wife in her other car, and totaled it. She wasn't hurt, but it was a bad experience for her. But, she has a new car now, and one young man learned he has to be a more careful driver.So sorry to hear about Barbaro. Wage peace on war. END CANNABIS PROHIBITION NOW! [ Post Comment ] Comment #134 posted by Hope on May 20, 2006 at 22:42:11 PT Masons and D.C. I didn't see the show but I've read about their influence there and seen the original diagrams and plans on web sites. [ Post Comment ] Comment #133 posted by Hope on May 20, 2006 at 22:39:33 PT Masons and women I believe they have a women's auxilary or something for the wives of Masons...The Eastern Stars.I should research that statement first...but I'm not going to...I'm too tired and I already have thirteen seperate windows open to check and shut down and I'm off to bed soon after that...I hope. [ Post Comment ] Comment #132 posted by Hope on May 20, 2006 at 22:35:19 PT excerpt from article about Barbaro Trainer Michael Matz raced out onto the track and to Barbaro's side just seconds after the finish. His face was ashen — and this is a man not easily given to emotion. Nearly 17 years ago, Matz rescued three kids from the burning fuselage of an airplane that crashed in an Iowa cornfield.On this day, slowing to a walk, Matz surveyed the scene as attending veterinarian Dr. Dan Dreyfuss and the ambulance staff tried to quiet his horse. Nearby, Peter Brette, Matz's assistant and a former rider himself, embraced jockey Edgar Prado, whose quick thinking in pulling Barbaro up saved the horse considerable pain and may yet save his life. But Prado wasn't quite so steely. He could barely contain his tears a moment later when he walked over and struggled to tell owner Gretchen Jackson, "I'm sorry, "I'm sorry." Then he walked off in a daze.A woman wailed, "No," over and over, then shrieked, "Don't put him down, I'll buy the horse!"Behind her, a knot of grown-ups covered their faces or wiped away tears. Some simply averted their eyes.Matz, meanwhile, waited until the ambulance made its way onto the track and carried off Barbaro, then wheeled around and walked fast, his face a tightly drawn mask. The trip took him past winning trainer Tom Albertrani and the celebrating connections of Preakness champion Bernardini, past Dan Hendricks, the trainer of Brother Derek, who sat in his wheelchair with a hand covering his mouth, then through the grandstand and to the stall where the ambulance was parked.The only sign of where Matz had just been, and the agony he'd just suffered, was a powdering of track dust across the left shoulder of his black suit. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060521/ap_on_sp_ot/rac_tc1_jim_litke_2;_ylt=AhdSp_G [ Post Comment ] Comment #131 posted by FoM on May 20, 2006 at 22:12:05 PT Yell at The TV! Oh my whig you do that too! LOL! [ Post Comment ] Comment #130 posted by FoM on May 20, 2006 at 22:10:35 PT Hope The whole Free Mason issue is scary to me and they showed a group of Free Masons from DC on the program. I believe in tradition. The race today is a long standing tradition but when a tradition becomes secretive then it makes me wonder what is their purpose. I spent many summers in DC. I never liked it. Where are the women in the Masons? There aren't any. Big government really is worrisome. I believe that being in politics is almost like a religion to some people. That is scary. [ Post Comment ] Comment #129 posted by whig on May 20, 2006 at 22:00:28 PT FoM My wife was watching that show the other day (about the Freemasons) and she told me I shouldn't watch it with her because she knew I'd yell at the TV. [ Post Comment ] Comment #128 posted by Hope on May 20, 2006 at 21:49:54 PT D.C. and that Mason stuff Assuming you mean the way D.C. is laid out...it is spooky and more than a little odd. The pentacles and the Pentagon...it's all just a bit too peculiar and it's certainly not an accident. It was planned that way on purpose. It might be a superior plan of some sort...but it doesn't really seem so.One last comment tonight about faith. If only the rest of the world could be more like the people here. We all have strong beliefs and opinions and ideas, but we don't despise each other for our differences and we certainly have no desire to harm those who have different spiritual beliefs.I can't imagine that anyone, any where believes exactly like me, just like no one looks exactly like me or lives and thinks exactly like I do. It's strange how the people that would harm others in the name of their religion, really seem to be worshiping and adoring themselves and their beliefs more than anything else. Too many practitioners of faith seem to have a sort of pride that enables them to put themselves on some sort of pedastal and look down on the rest of humanity as so much less than themselves. Pride and arrogance is what that is. It's wonderful that we can share our thoughts without attacking each other. Doesn't mean we always understand each other...but it means we allow each other to be...and that seems to me to be an element of genuine love. [ Post Comment ] Comment #127 posted by FoM on May 20, 2006 at 19:19:37 PT Whig I hope you understand that I don't understand. I don't think that deeply about some things. Right now we are watching a program on the National Geographic Channel about a group called The Free Masons. I've heard of them before and we have some people in our local town with a connection to Masons. What an odd group of men. Makes Washington, DC all that more spooky to me. [ Post Comment ] Comment #126 posted by whig on May 20, 2006 at 18:54:13 PT Anamnesis I'm trying to think of a way to explain this that will make sense and I hope this is clear enough. In ordinary memory, you remember your own earlier life, your childhood and your friends and your family and your experiences that you've been through. Another kind of memory is the things you have committed to your rote memorization, your multiplication tables and your catechisms if you have been given them. And these you recall if you are supposed to, but you do not recall them as from experience.Anamnesis is more like the first kind of memory, but pertains to things which are usually taught as like the second. It is not to memorialize, to remember in a sense of facts or things that you have committed to learn, but to remember the experience as you had lived through it yourself, but pertaining to things which were and are part of the earlier time before you were as you are now. It is to bring those things and times into the present time, to remember them as to live through them yourself and now. [ Post Comment ] Comment #125 posted by FoM on May 20, 2006 at 18:52:49 PT Whig When you think about it all, it really is remarkable how different we all are but we all are not that different at the same time. [ Post Comment ] Comment #124 posted by whig on May 20, 2006 at 18:36:27 PT FoM Well, you know I often talk about words not really being adequate to the concepts behind them, and this is even more true when the words have been subjected to long abuse by the power structure for its own purposes. I don't believe that the Eucharist was ever "in remembrance" as in past history but in "anamnesis" or remembrance in the present, to become remembered, it is a hard idea, and if you don't understand what I mean it's okay and I don't think my words are equal to the experience. I also don't think that the Christ is equal to God but is an experience of God and anointment through our limited human form. There is simply no way that the fullness of God can be expressed in a mortal way but only as through a glass darkly. If you don't understand what I mean it's okay because I'm not of a mind to understand myself sometimes. :) [ Post Comment ] Comment #123 posted by FoM on May 20, 2006 at 18:17:41 PT Whig You know I don't understand what you mean sometimes but most times I do. I am not God so I won't call myself a Christ. I believe that the Eucharist was a rememberance of the Last Supper so I don't use that word anyway but in reference to that event. I know you weren't raised like I or many people were. That only means we don't emphasize beliefs exactly the same. The journey we all are on is very individualistic. [ Post Comment ] Comment #122 posted by whig on May 20, 2006 at 17:54:54 PT FoM I never refer to God as Jesus for a couple reasons. One is that I was brought up Jewish and maybe just old habits. Another is that I don't think Christ is limited to one person, I truly believe that the Christ consciousness is something we all partake of from the Eucharist. I know my ideas are pretty different from any organized church or what you might believe but this is how I've come to understand things through my own experiences. I believe Jesus was Christ but so are we now when we are. This is hard to say and not make some people angry though. [ Post Comment ] Comment #121 posted by FoM on May 20, 2006 at 17:00:26 PT Just a Comment I believe that everything that has been created has a purpose. I like to watch programs on other religions and I see how much they care and the different traditions they follow. That means to me that God is way bigger then any religion or belief. That is why I don't refer to God as Jesus but God. Life to me is a journey and we do good and we do bad things but it doesn't matter only that we learn from those experiences. [ Post Comment ] Comment #120 posted by FoM on May 20, 2006 at 16:41:45 PT Two Pictures Of The Injury Sometimes I think working with horses most of my life helps me to do CNews. I know that everything can be fine and then not fine but it will get better. Like I said life is like a horse race and we can hope that we win. Sometimes we do win but sometimes we don't. http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/060520/483/xpim15005202333http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/060520/483/xpim14905202329 [ Post Comment ] Comment #119 posted by whig on May 20, 2006 at 16:38:19 PT Hope Part of what I perceive differently is that I don't think the passage of time has any reality outside of our very limited experience. This life we are living is sort of like a training ground, a school for our own young selves to learn the lessons that have been set for us. Other times I might use a different metaphor, so this is only one way of looking at it. But I don't think time passes for God, the universe is just an event, a single instant, for him. [ Post Comment ] Comment #118 posted by FoM on May 20, 2006 at 16:22:56 PT Hope I had a thoroughbred mare. While we had her boarded at a stable someone cleaning her stall didn't remove her during the cleaning and they punctured her front leg with a pitchfork accidentially and severed her tendon. She never walked again except on three legs. We bred her and I was so excited then she aborted twins at about 8 months. I couldn't believe it and I cried and cried. We bred her two more times and had two nice colts. We gave her to a family then and she had more nice foals. I know what you mean. [ Post Comment ] Comment #117 posted by Hope on May 20, 2006 at 16:16:57 PT Whig Yes, you're right. Death does look like a better deal when there is no relief for great pain anywhere in sight or to hope for.With horses, I've always been the little girl standing in defiance of what I've seen as atrocities against these beautiful animals. I wouldn't want him to suffer either. But broken legs do heal and it always seemed to me that it was an injustice not to give them a chance to heal or a chance to "make a living" some other way.My neighbor had an old one eyed ex-race horse that my grandfather used to borrow to plow with. His life obviously took a tragic turn somewhere around the race track or the breeding barn. But he had meadows to graze in, children who adored and petted him at every opportunity and that sneaked him Granny's best cookies whenever we thought we might get away with it, and he didn't have to work too hard pulling that little plow a few times a year. He did some good besides being fertilizer. [ Post Comment ] Comment #116 posted by Hope on May 20, 2006 at 16:07:06 PT "I have a different context." Of course you do. We all live different lives and our experiences are uniquely our own.I do believe in mistakes, accidents, and serendipity of the unpleasant sort.I see God as a living active being. A being that moves and thinks. He is wild. He is a consuming fire. He's wilder than any wild creature in creation. To think that He is a tame being would be a mistake, I think. Yes...I can believe that He is "The same always"...but I do not believe that he is immovable like a dead statue or idol. I believe He's quick and active. He is everywhere and everything and moves all over that everywhere at speeds far greater than any thing we could imagine. I think He's made mistakes because He does things and I think He sometimes tries to correct them. I suspect He's made some grand and mighty mistakes, but maybe not. If certain entities are indeed real beings...I'd say they would qualify, even to God, as mistakes...I don't know. But I suspect that He has and that He has made efforts to correct them although He hasn't undone them all...as of yet. I know that's probably sacreligious to say, to some people. But that's where I am right now.(Listening for thunder...you know, like "lightening striking".)One thing I have to try not to doubt... is that He is merciful. [ Post Comment ] Comment #115 posted by FoM on May 20, 2006 at 16:04:10 PT Hope If Michael and those in charge can save him they will try but these race horses are bred to run and he will need to be in a sling for at least 6 weeks. When they would let him out of the sling he could snap out and break it again. When they got him in the horse ambulance the horses mind was still running the race. Sometimes it's best to put them down but his stud fees will be high so they will try to save him but insurance will compensate if he can't be saved. That doesn't make it any easier for those who have worked so closely with this horse. [ Post Comment ] Comment #114 posted by whig on May 20, 2006 at 15:53:43 PT Hope I think the real question is whether he would be in pain if they can't fix his leg. I know that when my hip was sufficiently bad, if it had not been repaired, I would rather have been put down. Seriously. [ Post Comment ] Comment #113 posted by Hope on May 20, 2006 at 15:51:00 PT "fetlock flopping out to the one side" Oh my. That sounds bad. I think they'd be crazy to kill him...but money matters, of course, likely will decide that. He could pass on some good genes...but he's not a beloved pet...and it will likely be a business decision that decides the horse's fate. Even "running on three"...he could make a delightful horse, even a riding horse for someone. It's a shame. [ Post Comment ] Comment #112 posted by Hope on May 20, 2006 at 15:44:56 PT Museman Comment 106 Forgive your cynicism? You have no need of forgiveness. Who among us isn't cynical about so many of our leaders and their minions and the things they do to us? Is there any hope of stopping man's inhumanity to man? That thought would bring out the cynic in any thinking human being. There's a lot to be cynical about. It's natural. But like any sort of anger or disappointment, it can drag us down to the depths if we hold on to it.I think cynics, by and large, hope they are wrong...but have serious reason to seriously doubt that they are. [ Post Comment ] Comment #111 posted by FoM on May 20, 2006 at 15:42:49 PT Hope Thanks for your comment. The replay of the race shows the fetlock flopping out to the one side. He is being taken to New Bolton Center for possible surgery. I think they will put him down. Life is a horse race. Sometimes we win and sometimes we lose. Barbaro lost big time today. I've been to New Bolton Center and it is quite a veterinary hospital. If he can be helped they will help him. [ Post Comment ] Comment #110 posted by whig on May 20, 2006 at 15:40:48 PT Hope We all have our metaphors and ways of understanding what is beyond our direct ability to perceive. I don't reject what you believe but I have a different context. You don't like to think that God can deceive, but that he can make mistakes. I don't think there are any accidents. [ Post Comment ] Comment #109 posted by Hope on May 20, 2006 at 15:36:49 PT Comment 107 Oh no. Oh no. That's horrible. I'm so sorry. One of the many nightmares available to the horseman or horsewoman. [ Post Comment ] Comment #108 posted by Hope on May 20, 2006 at 15:35:05 PT Whig I don't believe that God is deceptive, but I do believe in a mysterious God that is beyond my understanding.I know believing in God doesn't make any kind of sense and it can make me appear to be a fool to many. It is extreme foolishness and a case of self-delusion, to the "wise and learned", no doubt. I've actually decided to take the chance, and be a "fool"...for Christ. Jews and Christians, alike, are taught that "In the beginning was darkness". Then light appeared in the darkness. That light was God. Is there other stuff that has come out of that darkness? I don't know. Is that "darkness" some sort of entity in itself? I can't pretend to know. I suspect some things were born instantly and irrevocably out of God's anger and hatred...and remorse. I suspect He's just that kind of being...his thoughts turn to realities instantly sometimes. I do believe that He thinks. I believe the Holy Spirit I believe in has experienced anger, hatred, and remorse. Doesn't it say somewhere that He was, at one time, at least, sorry that He had made mankind? If He's had remorse, then he's believed he's made mistakes in creation and life...he must have then. I know a lot of people say , "God doesn't make mistakes." But, I don't believe it says anywhere in the Bible that God didn't think he made mistakes. I don't know for sure. I do know that I have to, personally, make a choice for my personal beliefs in this life and try to grow and mature in them.I've chosen this spiritual belief that is about Love and caring and gentleness and kindness. It's a good Way for life as it, done right, brings love and mercy to others, the Earth, perhaps the Universe, and myself. Is it real? I don't know. Maybe none of this real. Maybe we are all God's dream or less. Maybe we are mere cells held together in a certain form until we die...then we're dead. Like so much meat. I don't know. Maybe when this body dies, that's the end. If it is...so what? I prefer counting on something a lot better, though. It costs me nothing. I'm free to have my heart and mind where I want it to be. I'm also well aware that just because something is invisible to my eye does not mean that it does not exist.I do know, and I'm thankful, that I have a choice about what to believe, where I am, right now. [ Post Comment ] Comment #107 posted by FoM on May 20, 2006 at 15:27:23 PT Off Topic: Barbaro It looks like he shattered is right hind fetlock joint. If it can be set he at least will be able to be retired to stud. If he is insured heavily they will probably put him down. [ Post Comment ] Comment #106 posted by museman on May 20, 2006 at 15:27:08 PT Hope#76 Forgive my cynicism. The wall looks large sometimes, and I do get slightly extreme and maybe even vent a little. You are right about blessings.I see a correlation between the core value system and every aspect of corruption. No solution that comes from that source is going to solve the problem. There will come a point in everyone's life when compromise with the absolute undeniable truth is no longer an option. As a race we've been held in darkness and ignorance for most of our known history and beyond. We literally do not have time for anything but hard choices, and no change of any benefit to man and earth is going to come about while the majority of mankind surrenders to the precepts of Property, Pride, and Power. They prevade all levels of human existence, BUT IT IS AN IMPOSED REALTIY, and an INVENTION of the power elite.I struggle with the knowledge that those with the resources are not doing enough by far in any direction, and I understand all too clear the potential. Having done so much (unacknowledged of course) with mainly the resource of my mind, nature, and little else, I know what can be done. No man of wealth is even close to meeting his responsibilty, because the solution is not in the wealth. [ Post Comment ] Comment #105 posted by whig on May 20, 2006 at 15:25:53 PT Barbaro He got hurt. :( [ Post Comment ] Comment #104 posted by global_warming on May 20, 2006 at 14:52:15 PT Swing Low Sweet Chariot,Coming to carry me home, [ Post Comment ] Comment #103 posted by global_warming on May 20, 2006 at 14:25:17 PT happy Cannabis Dreams,and good profit margins,you are the bestand you are the good princesin this world, [ Post Comment ] Comment #102 posted by global_warming on May 20, 2006 at 14:18:07 PT who is John Locke? But another traveler in this world, [ Post Comment ] Comment #101 posted by global_warming on May 20, 2006 at 14:16:11 PT there is One Owner'we are 'all 'graced,as 'witness and child,in the desert,in the world,my prayermay 'we live long enough to pray,to send that message,To the world of God, [ Post Comment ] Comment #100 posted by whig on May 20, 2006 at 14:14:52 PT gw "God gave the world in common to all mankind." - John Locke [ Post Comment ] Comment #99 posted by global_warming on May 20, 2006 at 14:09:18 PT there is One Owner'we are 'all 'graced,as 'witness and child,in the desert,in the world,my prayermay 'we live long enough to pray,to send that message,To the world of God, [ Post Comment ] Comment #98 posted by whig on May 20, 2006 at 14:05:30 PT Hope God has many aspects, and deception is one. This is a hard thing for many to accept, because we cannot give evil attributes to that which we consider always benevolent. But if there is no God but God, even if one believes in a separate lesser being called the Devil he cannot exist or exercise any powers whatsoever but through the will of God. And it is for a purpose, it is to make us see that we are responsible for our own choices, to exercise our free will in such a way as to merit the goodness that we desire, or to exercise it in such a way as to cause suffering that we desire not. It is us that choose, and us that do and us that create what we would have, so choose the good and choose that which you will have. Do unto others as you would have done unto yourself. This is all, the rest is commentary. [ Post Comment ] Comment #97 posted by global_warming on May 20, 2006 at 14:00:06 PT perhaps your deepest beliefs, may be your harvest,the anchor that feeds your footin this earthly existence,who can own this world? [ Post Comment ] Comment #96 posted by global_warming on May 20, 2006 at 13:52:22 PT re: ownership what can any person "own" ?as witness and travelerthrough this existence and reality, [ Post Comment ] Comment #95 posted by global_warming on May 20, 2006 at 13:45:43 PT and the many stories of prophets and mystics,parabels and proverbs,are only quick reflections,in this desert,this wasteland,where the water of life,the salt of this earth,has been owned, [ Post Comment ] Comment #94 posted by global_warming on May 20, 2006 at 13:35:11 PT re:Hidalgo Have not seen the film, but I can imagine, that some where in that desert, they encountered Jesus,, [ Post Comment ] Comment #93 posted by global_warming on May 20, 2006 at 13:04:52 PT wow there was some serious thoughts graven into this digital exchange, Hope and Lombar, there was enough to write that book, on the History Of Mankind.Through the eyes of a soldier in the Legacy,.. [ Post Comment ] Comment #92 posted by FoM on May 20, 2006 at 12:53:55 PT Hope No I haven't seen it but I'll keep my eyes open for it. I don't miss having horses anymore but once you love horses you never stop loving horses. I think Barbaro is a magnificent animal but more then that I want to see Michael Matz win the Triple Crown with Barbaro. Michael Matz is a real life hero ( Bad plane crash in Iowa ) and a gentleman. I want the win for him. [ Post Comment ] Comment #91 posted by Hope on May 20, 2006 at 12:39:28 PT Hidalgo If you've seen the movie, you know how I can compare what Hidalgo and his rider went through in that vast Arabian desert to what our movement to reform drug policy has had to endure through the years.Hidalgo is a good metaphor for us and the race we run. [ Post Comment ] Comment #90 posted by Hope on May 20, 2006 at 12:35:00 PT Cool pics, FoM. Have you ever seen the movie, Hidalgo? It's based on a true story about an American mustang. Our movement reminds me of Hidalgo from time to time. Like Hidalgo...we will surprise a lot of naysayers when we win, and I do believe we will truly defeat the insanity and cruelty of the present day prohibition. [ Post Comment ] Comment #89 posted by FoM on May 20, 2006 at 12:13:55 PT Off Topic: Hope Michael Matz's horse Barbaro is running in the Preakness at around 6 EDT. It will be on NBC. I hope you get to see it and I hope Michael's horse wins again. Here are pictures of Barbaro and Michael Matz. I don't bet on anything but if I did I'd bet on Barbaro.http://www.preakness.com/News/BarbaroPG.htm [ Post Comment ] Comment #88 posted by Hope on May 20, 2006 at 12:05:10 PT Lombar Excellent dissection of the Beast. It seems it would die after dissection...but that's obviously not the case. [ Post Comment ] Comment #87 posted by Hope on May 20, 2006 at 11:55:18 PT Whig, Comment 85 Surely, brother, you see that there are many "false" gods, though.I agree that God is One and that there is One God, above all. [ Post Comment ] Comment #86 posted by lombar on May 20, 2006 at 11:48:30 PT Hope I believe the monetary system is the primary tool, prohibition, war, disease are all exploited maintain the value of the current hyperinflated markets. The debt based money system is a huge deception, drug prohibition provides a distraction and scapegoat all at once. The true ills of our society arise from the uneven distribution of the debt, more accurately who owes who. The people pay income tax to insure the graft continues, the infrastructure is necessary but only secondary to the true motivation which is personal profit. Endless free money to finance whatever war or oppressive programs. All 'social programs' that survive will be designed to reduce the peoples choice, ie power. When people have no choice they do whatever they can to survive. The beast to be chained is the global monetary system. At this time society is entrhalled to debt and the 'money' is a tool of control rather than one of liberation. As long as greed and self-interest are the motivating factors, society cannot help but to deteriorate and become corrupted by 'affluenza'.Drug prohibition plays two purposes. People who become 'pot addicts' often lose interest in materialism finding more satisfaction in mental states which make them more creative, relaxed, or whatever. It also permits demonization of a group to be collectively hated by the 'good' people. It's all manipulation and just turning off the TV is a great place to start to break free of the mental knots the propaganda machines tie people in.After all, if them 'darn hippie commie pothead peaceniks' are not 'raving loons and pot induced psychopaths' perhaps many of their issues THREATEN the declining and CORRUPT status quo? Issues that never seem to see the light of true investigation?Pick some people you know who you beleive are knowledgable and ask them : "Where does money come from?" and see what answers you get. We all need money, we all spend copious amounts of time procuring it BUT 90%(or more) of the people could not answer a simple basic question.I am no economist but it seems to me that if the money supply is debt with no actual currency, it does not exist at all. The reason things get tougher is that more people compete for less and less actual currency, it is not that there is not enough to go around, just that we little people are put in competition with megaliths that have ammassed fortunes in over valued and non-existent currency. Non-living eternal entities that can amass capital forever vs us limited life span, limited capital beings. [ Post Comment ] Comment #85 posted by whig on May 20, 2006 at 11:29:46 PT Hope I have one disagreement with you. There is only one God. [ Post Comment ] Comment #84 posted by Hope on May 20, 2006 at 11:13:11 PT Tools I used to see the prohibitionists as tools of the devil. They certainly don't subscribe to "Nothing outside a man can make him unclean when it goes into him. It's what comes out of his mouth...his heart, that can make him unclean." Now though, I think I can see the face of that devil which controls them, more clearly. It is the gathering and sustaining of sheer monetary wealth, for "the few" and "the elect". No matter what it costs the rest of us. What a jolly, fat, generous devil is the one the prohibitionists serve. He's quite successful, obviously, at what he does. God help us. May true "good" overcome that devil and his tools.We all need money. That's a fact of life as it is. But there are those who will trample others under their feet to get that money. The "few" and the "elect" seek to "own" the rest of us as worker drones. We have to have ways to make a living. We need big industry. But big industry should be a lot more for the workers than it is. Sure, they care about us. Not as people...but as drones to keep their machine well oiled. Drones are seen as infinitely replaceable.Big industry should be able to exist and thrive. It should not have the power to run the world and "mold" people to their specifications.It could be said that we here at C-News are "tools", too. We certainly can be seen as such. We are the "tools" for the acquisition and preservation of "Life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness" and other good stuff.The people who will trample on the liberties and lives of others in their desire for control, acquisition of money and power and worldly riches have no, or very few, qualms about trampling or even killing others for the benefit of their being able to acquire that which they seek. The world is full of them on many different scales. How many people have been murdered and robbed, even of liberty, in the world by individuals who wanted what the victims had? How many more by huge business with the same attitude?Another whillies making thought. The corporations and businesses and government are allowed to search through our blood and excrement, and pull out our hair to search through it for signs of disobedience to the new ruler of mankind.We are up against a monster. God help us. (The real One.) I have my God and they have theirs. It seems it will take a miracle to overcome the devouring and all powerful monster that "the elect" have become. Ultimately, I guess we'll see which is the most powerful. The god of hate, control, and greed, or the God of Love, Mercy, and Freedom, in Christ.Life is hard...but we have to keep going or quit. I choose to keep going for as long as I can. [ Post Comment ] Comment #83 posted by FoM on May 20, 2006 at 11:12:49 PT Hope You are so right. Young men coming out of the Vietnam era wanted to get a good job at a big company. That was what the blue collar worker wanted. You believed there was job security if you did your 9 to 5 for 30 years and then life would be ok in the end. You believed you would have good medical coverage and a good pension. We have laws to protect us from having the USA polluted and instead of companies fixing what they needed to fix they moved to another country. Money is the driving force of corporations and people are just means to an end. [ Post Comment ] Comment #82 posted by whig on May 20, 2006 at 11:07:04 PT Hope Amen, sister Hope. [ Post Comment ] Comment #81 posted by Hope on May 20, 2006 at 10:47:05 PT Politics, Governments, History I sometimes wonder how this point in world history will be seen in the future.Drug Prohibition will be seen in the same light as Alcohol Prohibition, witch hunts, the Inquisition, and other efforts to "cleanse" out of "society" an entire group of people and their ways or their perceived ways. As horrible as the results of drug prohibition have been, there is still something even more ominous than it's "fruits", like the drug war, and all it's resulting sorrow and loss. There are elements that the drug war is just a symptom or sign of. It's an almost too big to see entity that hangs over all of us. If we succeed in overcoming it, this time that we have been struggling through will be seen as a major dark era in history. If we don't defeat it, we won't be having any real history anyway. Corporations, big industry, and conglomerates are in complete and total control of our government. Our government obviously has a powerful hold on other governments. Ours is the era when corporations, conglomerates, and big business try to force every human being into a drone worker mold...for the monetary benefit of the corporations and it's powerful holders. Oh sure...corporations, and the rich people who sustain their net worth through the profits of the corporation, begrudgingly allow the drone/slave a "living wage". That means "just enough" to live on, and no more...lest they be able to rise out of their drone worker mold or think themselves valuable or even irreplaceable. That is a recognized form of business management. It's wrong but it's very much a part of the way many businesses are run.The prison and prohibition industry, for instance, has made powerful tools out of people like Joyce Nalepka and Calvina Faye and the rest of their bunch of prohibitionist stokers. They are willingly being used as watchers over the mold. Though they be drenched in the blood and sorrow of others...they have no mind, or conscience, or mercy. They are tools of a greater power that wants to be greater than God, Himself. [ Post Comment ] Comment #80 posted by FoM on May 20, 2006 at 09:42:51 PT Hope I have thought about what hawks and doves are and how they differ. I saw on the news that republicans will still vote this fall for their party but when it comes to campaigning for someone in the republican party most won't help this year. They will protest that way. I don't know if that matters but that's what they said. I am conservative but I am liberal so I am not able to fit into any party but I lean towards the Greens and Democrats in my belief system. Democrats can stay away from voting easier then a republican and that hurts their party I think. [ Post Comment ] Comment #79 posted by FoM on May 20, 2006 at 09:26:00 PT Hope Thank you for the comment to museman. You made me really start thinking about a lot of things. Let's see if I can type what I mean. One thing that is important to every person is they want to have some form of a legacy. Basically what will people remember us for after we are gone. Will we be remembered? How will we be remembered? I think of Paul McCartney and soon he will be 64. How ironic to think he will have arrived at 64 and no one to need him or feed him when he turns 64. He is worth over a billion dollars but right now he must feel like a failure since he is a family man and a Sir too. God gives every person a talent. We do the best we can with that talent and the rest becomes a part of a legacy. [ Post Comment ] Comment #78 posted by Hope on May 20, 2006 at 09:20:19 PT comment 74 Even though the Republicans are down on Bush, right now...there are still so many of them that will vote Republican, no matter what. Let's just hope the more centered and reasonable among us can outvote them. [ Post Comment ] Comment #77 posted by Hope on May 20, 2006 at 09:15:17 PT Comment 46 Popping wheelies? Quit that, FoM. Stick isn't the only one that scares! [ Post Comment ] Comment #76 posted by Hope on May 20, 2006 at 09:12:27 PT Museman Comment 54 "The fact that I bear no earthly resemblance to the picked 'beauty' of most top-forty 'stars' has surely been an obstacle for me."You are an artist. Some artists don't get the attention they deserve, but they are still artists and though your art has not brought you notable income...it's still art and it still does what I think art is supposed to do...bless us.Just, you're getting to be part of a musical family is a gift that many of us admire greatly.Having seen photographs of you and your family, Museman, I disagree. You are beautiful. Inside and out. "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder", for real, I guess. [ Post Comment ] Comment #75 posted by FoM on May 20, 2006 at 07:53:54 PT A Little Comic Relief from JibJab The Drugs I Needhttp://www.jibjab.com/JokeBox/JokeBox_JJOrig.aspx?movieid=70 [ Post Comment ] Comment #74 posted by FoM on May 20, 2006 at 07:28:18 PT Hello It's a beautiful day here today. I haven't found any news again but it is spring and it's always slow this time of year. I am looking forward to change if we get it this fall because maybe we will stand a chance to change the laws. I wish I knew a magic formula that would wake politicians up and get their attention but the invasion of Iraq is what occupies our minds. I know that what Bush has done to our country is such an embarassment to me. Hopefully the republicans will be out of power after fall elections and we will have a new beginning. I can't think of any other way to get the laws changed. [ Post Comment ] Comment #73 posted by JR Bob Dobbs on May 20, 2006 at 06:13:19 PT For the Wikipeople out there I just noticed there is no page for Rainbow Farms at Wikipedia. I don't know how to make pages over there, or I'd start one myself. http://rainbowfarmcamp.com/ [ Post Comment ] Comment #72 posted by global_warming on May 19, 2006 at 16:44:55 PT Thank You I Am Feeling a little better,Knowing that there is peopleOut there can share and understand,The Blessings of Cannabis,And the Cross, and the 'pitiful wasteof this world,There is so much anger and ignorance,Sometimes I feel,My Prayers are wasted,On some Blind God,Much like us,Who blindly defendThe stinking halls of justice and righteousness I can pray,With my Last BreathFor A Better World, [ Post Comment ] Comment #71 posted by FoM on May 19, 2006 at 16:25:13 PT global_warming You're very welcome. [ Post Comment ] Comment #70 posted by global_warming on May 19, 2006 at 16:22:05 PT Thank You Lady Fom,And a Thank You,From My Lost Soul,In this tired and wretched world,From my prison bank number [ Post Comment ] Comment #69 posted by global_warming on May 19, 2006 at 16:16:32 PT ok and thanks and may 'we those people end this Cannabis Prohibition,and may 'we those people,end this power structure in this world,whose greatest fears,are not of Cannabis,but of profit margins,so many useless human beings that relyon money making money,with no thought how this plays out in human lives, [ Post Comment ] Comment #68 posted by FoM on May 19, 2006 at 16:13:04 PT global_warming Here it is.http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread21862.shtml#55 [ Post Comment ] Comment #67 posted by FoM on May 19, 2006 at 16:10:23 PT global_warming I noticed recently and did let Matt know that sometimes a post will show up in the comment section but when I click on to read it, it doesn't show up. It's like somethings not in sync and then after a while it shows up. He doesn't think anything is wrong but said it has to do with going to fast or something like that. [ Post Comment ] Comment #66 posted by global_warming on May 19, 2006 at 16:07:20 PT what happened Fomme La Bush Post? [ Post Comment ] Comment #65 posted by global_warming on May 19, 2006 at 16:05:25 PT i am losing my posts hope you are well, [ Post Comment ] Comment #64 posted by FoM on May 19, 2006 at 16:01:30 PT global_warming What is happening? I don't know. We are just talking I thought. [ Post Comment ] Comment #63 posted by global_warming on May 19, 2006 at 15:59:50 PT what is happening? [ Post Comment ] Comment #62 posted by mayan on May 19, 2006 at 15:56:51 PT DEAlers Sorry if this has been posted...Leaked Report: Drug Traffickers Obtained Classified DEA Documents from U.S. Embassy in Bogotá “At Will” - Informant Told Lie Detector that Corrupt U.S. Agents Helped Narcos Protect Drug Crops from Fumigation Raids:http://www.narconews.com/Issue41/article1816.html [ Post Comment ] Comment #61 posted by global_warming on May 19, 2006 at 15:56:01 PT nice "we become conditioned to the various illusory values that have been imposed upon us by this system, and make 'value judgements' based on those assumptions. "That is why "they" hate Cannabis, because it exposes those assumptions, it opens the eyes and for a brief twinkle you get to glimpse yourself in this world. [ Post Comment ] Comment #60 posted by FoM on May 19, 2006 at 15:41:08 PT Whig You know what can you say when he's the DECIDER! LOL! [ Post Comment ] Comment #59 posted by museman on May 19, 2006 at 15:22:29 PT G_W "That is why "they" hate Cannabis, because it exposes those assumptions, it opens the eyes and for a brief twinkle you get to glimpse yourself in this world."Yessir! And a lot of times you are quite reluctant to go back to the illusion. [ Post Comment ] Comment #58 posted by FoM on May 19, 2006 at 15:20:41 PT Here's Something on Character by NY museman, that's not good. You offer to do it for free and people don't understand. I did a lot of my teaching children to ride and didn't charge them. The parents didn't understand why I wouldn't charge but it made them happy. I even had a Muslim family that we stopped riding when it was time for them to pray. I was very proud of the other children for being that respectful of a Muslim family in rural Ohio.I just got this in my e-mail from Farm-Aid. http://www.farmaid.org/book/Homegrown.pdf [ Post Comment ] Comment #57 posted by museman on May 19, 2006 at 15:19:27 PT Fom "What does life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness mean then? I thought that was a form of democracy."It looks great on paper. Wonderful concept, in fact it was in putting it to the test that I have discovered the real facts behind the curtain (like so many others).Democracy is a representative government directly based on a classless system of political equality. The only real democracy that is recorded in history was that of the Sioux nation, before the US Army began their polgrom.The only 'representation' in this pretense of a 'democratic republic' is for the elite classes who are also the elite economic powers, who all share the 3P's as their primary consideration.In my experience with politicians, I say the proof is in the pudding; if it tastes ok to you then eat it, but I sure wouldn't. [ Post Comment ] Comment #56 posted by global_warming on May 19, 2006 at 15:15:36 PT nice "we become conditioned to the various illusory values that have been imposed upon us by this system, and make 'value judgements' based on those assumptions. "That is why "they" hate Cannabis, because it exposes those assumptions, it opens the eyes and for a brief twinkle you get to glimpse yourself in this world. [ Post Comment ] Comment #55 posted by whig on May 19, 2006 at 15:11:28 PT Fomme la Bush http://tinyurl.com/qugvv [ Post Comment ] Comment #54 posted by museman on May 19, 2006 at 15:08:50 PT FoM "When we find ancient civilizations the only thing we have is art to tell us about the culture. Our art and music culture is shunned." And from living a lifetime of creating and producing that, I can verify the fact. But we buy the goods, we support the music industry, the oil companies, the entertainment devices, the politicians, the wealth. We offer ourselves as willing conduits for the flow of the money from the rich, to the rich. By this we become conditioned to the various illusory values that have been imposed upon us by this system, and make 'value judgements' based on those assumptions. We watch TV and subconsciously agree that beauty is all about appearance, and certain narrow 'acceptable' standards. For example.I recently volunteered to run a sound stage and provide the equipment for a local event; an opening of an open-air farmers market- and ran into a phenomenon I know only too well. The people were intitially excited about having music to enhance their grand opening. We would have provided sound, and 3 different acts FOR FREE. Up until the point that we offered to do it for free, they were polite and interested. As soon as we made the offer, they became condescending and judgemental, making the common ussumption that if it doesn't have a high dollar price, it's not worth anything. Well they didn't get a free concert, or any concert for that matter, but I'm sure they are confident they made the right choice based on those 3 P's; Property, Pride, and Power. The fact that I bear no earthly resemblance to the picked 'beauty' of most top-forty 'stars' has surely been an obstacle for me. I have been shunned because I shun propriety, which I understand personally to be a commandment of love. Therefore I and my art of nearly forty years is greatly ignored for no other reason than I have no money or glitz. I do not belong to the country club, and wouldn't if they paid me, cause their spirit is finite, small, and mean, destined for minute pleasures in this time alone, while my spirit is eternal and reaches far beyond their petty mockery of life with substance unknown to their reckoning.As an music artist/composer, to me it is all about the human condition. We teach ourselves about our inner most being through art, literature, and music. When we delegate so much of the responsibilty of our lives to those who rule us by 'virtue' of their Property, Pride, and Power, we become accustomed to letting others do our thinking for us, and we no longer look for that which is all around us, but become narrowly locked in to the value judgements of the staus quo, and recieve their shallow repetitions of fractured truth as if it were High Art. If your smile don't sparkle, and your hair ain't neat,just keep on playin out in the street.'Cause you ain't fine enough for me,you ain't worth nothin' if you're free.While the idols spin their crafted taleof absolutely nothing but to make the sale,in the grandest glitter that money can buy,so c'mon everybody, buy, buy, buy! [ Post Comment ] Comment #53 posted by global_warming on May 19, 2006 at 15:04:23 PT it is if you got the money if you got the money, you got life, liberty and freedom..so sad to see this world is so money driven, no thought about how 'we those people mesh in with those mysteries of untold eternities.. [ Post Comment ] Comment #52 posted by FoM on May 19, 2006 at 14:31:03 PT museman What does life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness mean then? I thought that was a form of democracy. [ Post Comment ] Comment #51 posted by FoM on May 19, 2006 at 14:21:38 PT Thanks JR The link didn't work but I did find the lyrics to the song. I don't understand them though. I heard an audio clip and they sure aren't a Rap group. That is what I don't understand. Why won't they play the top sales CDs on the radio unless a song is so popular they have to play it?When we find ancient civilizations the only thing we have is art to tell us about the culture. Our art and music culture is shunned. [ Post Comment ] Comment #50 posted by museman on May 19, 2006 at 14:20:59 PT re: free thinking "Why can't people think for themselves and make their own way in a democratic society? "Number one reason; THIS IS NOT A DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY!A Republic is all about the rule of the elite, and the dehumanizing of everyone else. Keep 'em poor and uneducated, criminalize their natural liberties, and oblige them to be dependant upon their system of weights and measures in order to live at all. A Republic is descended from Empires, and 'divine right of kings'. Rome was a Republic that never died, and we live in the shadow of it's ancient tyranny still, though it has moved it's capitol to Wash DC. [ Post Comment ] Comment #49 posted by JR Bob Dobbs on May 19, 2006 at 14:04:57 PT Re: #41 The album you've got at #8 on that top ten list, Tool's 10,000 Days, has a wonderful anti-prohibitionist song called "The Pot". Check out the lyrics: Tool - The Pot lyrics [ Post Comment ] Comment #48 posted by FoM on May 19, 2006 at 13:28:28 PT Free Thinking Why can't people think for themselves and make their own way in a democratic society? When we grow up and leave our parents we dream of being able to make our own way and do our own thing but we find out that we just traded our parents telling us what to do for the government telling us what to do. Why aren't people upset about that as much as I am. I believe we had more liberties then this younger generation has. [ Post Comment ] Comment #47 posted by FoM on May 19, 2006 at 13:13:55 PT museman It will only be a big swing but that will help a little because Democrats will want to win the White House in 08 if they clean house this fall. We will only have their undivided attention for a short time and we must get the laws on cannabis changed when we can. After the Democrats are in power for a year or two after the presidential election they will become seriously corrupt too. Change the laws and stop letting big business pull the strings and everyone will stay more honest that way. That's just how I see it. [ Post Comment ] Comment #46 posted by FoM on May 19, 2006 at 13:08:26 PT museman Yes you're right. I really tried hard to be the consumer driven person back in the 80s. I thought why not. I turned my back on what I had hoped for from the 60s when I saw cocaine enter the picture and then disco music. After the 80s I realized that I really disliked the consumer mentality and now I am more at peace with my life. I still like to buy some things like CDs and a computer when I need one but not much more. My husbands semi is over 20 years old and our good car is 20 years old. Our Ford tractor is a 39 model I believe and our old pickup truck is older yet. We have parts coming for the tractor and they aren't cheap but I love that old tractor. I pop wheelies when I am on it and scare my husband! LOL!I don't know what drives people anymore. [ Post Comment ] Comment #45 posted by museman on May 19, 2006 at 13:04:39 PT FoM#41 Good cop, bad cop. Psychological manipulation. They are going to do the same thing with us with Bush and his successor.Bush is so bad, they are going to produce the 'good guy' and he/she will probably be Democrat. Everyone will breathe a sigh of relief, think that it's over. Just like when Clinton 'defeated' the elder bush in '92. Everyone will get comfortable with $4 a gallon gas prices, they'll raise the minimum wage to just below starving again, and have an on going war to keep their police force well trained.The same spirit will ruling, and it won't be 'the people.' Same Sh_t, Different Day. [ Post Comment ] Comment #44 posted by museman on May 19, 2006 at 12:56:30 PT FoM "Free thinking is soon going to be a punishable offense the way things are going."Free thinking has always been a 'punishable offense' by the powers that be, because the powers that be have always been the rich demonic bastards that are revealing themselves so blatantly today, it's just that media and internet have made their machinations more visible.The very prohibition of Marijuana, is a prohibition not only of 'free thinking' but the 'common sense' that we as 'free Americans' have claimed to be so much at the core of our culture. The fact that marijauna aids in the enhancement of thought and imagination, is exactly the real reason why it is illegal. [ Post Comment ] Comment #43 posted by FoM on May 19, 2006 at 11:15:02 PT Max Flowers That makes so much sense to me. [ Post Comment ] Comment #42 posted by Max Flowers on May 19, 2006 at 10:27:39 PT Stone and WTC movie If Oliver Stone had to make a movie about 9/11---and I add that I still think it's way too soon---I guess I'm glad that he chose to focus on the heroics of police and firemen rather than any story that takes a position behind the government fable. United 93 just pissed me off (and I didn't even see it... I wouldn't have been able to watch it without having an outburst in the theater).I doubt that the Stone movie will show the other explosions that fire and police personnel reported, but it will be interesting to see whether it does. I also wonder whether Stone was forced to get his storyboard/script approved by any NYC authorities before being given permission to shoot there. I think that this movie is going to be a major tearjerker, causing everyone in the theater to cry, not just because the movie itself is sad but because all of us have so far been denied the chance to deal with this properly, grieve in a final way, and move on in a healthy way. We're all in emotional limbo, exactly like family members of murder victims where the crime is still unsolved. [ Post Comment ] Comment #41 posted by FoM on May 19, 2006 at 10:26:56 PT One More Thought This is really a question more then a thought. I don't listen to the radio except online now and then and I just listen to music I buy. My husband said there are lots of Rap channels when he is trying to find a radio station in his truck. I don't know if any of these top CDs are Rap but why isn't popular music with a message played on the radio and they play angry Rap? Why did Fox have a show like the 70s Show that is very open about smoking in the basement and then right wing people on the news channel? It's like they want to stir up issues and then solve the problem. I hope this makes sense.Current Top CDs on Amazon.com1. -- Taking The Long Way 2. -- Stadium Arcadium 3. -- All the Roadrunning 4. -- We Shall Overcome: The Seeger Sessions 5. -- Surprise 6. -- Living With War 7. -- Pearl Jam 8. -- 10,000 Days 9. -- St. Elsewhere 10. -- Broken Boy Soldiers [ Post Comment ] Comment #40 posted by FoM on May 19, 2006 at 09:50:59 PT whig Thanks for the links. I guess my feelings about this topic aren't too far from the truth. [ Post Comment ] Comment #39 posted by FoM on May 19, 2006 at 09:44:51 PT freewillks You very well could be right. [ Post Comment ] Comment #38 posted by whig on May 19, 2006 at 09:43:48 PT FoM Oh, it was John Gibson, not Bill O'Reilly, who said make more White babies.http://mediamatters.org/items/200605120006Bill said some other stuff. Well, a lot of other stuff.http://mediamatters.org/items/200605170006http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZicEPBWy1RYhttp://youtube.com/watch?v=kssS_TEeQfU [ Post Comment ] Comment #37 posted by freewillks on May 19, 2006 at 09:38:15 PT FOM But not the pot heads and Medical cannabis users. they could have a much better chance at surviving a H5N1 infection. I have been studying the effects of CBD and cytokines for about a year now. This same cytokine storm is what is believed to atack the pancres and couse it to stop making insuline. it is also what happens in MS, ctyokins attack muscle tisue. I also think that cytokins play a rule in bi-polar/ADHD brain disorders. In my veiw of things, Cannabis and CBD could provide for the healing of the nations people. But our own government wants to practice genocide on the sick and and mentally ill. [ Post Comment ] Comment #36 posted by FoM on May 19, 2006 at 09:38:08 PT Whig I believe there might be a few Republicans that wouldn't mind having a black president but I bet the numbers wouldn't be very large. I am not against the poor immigrants looking for work to feed their families. I believe we need legal immigration and if they are truly that desperate to come over the border for work for food then lets send them food. We should feed the hungry. We send food and medicine to other countries so why not Mexico? Make the owners of the companies verify thru a little bit of digging that their employees are here legally and if they aren't and they use them as slave labor fine them. Increase the fines each time they get caught and keep tabs on the employers not the poor employees. [ Post Comment ] Comment #35 posted by whig on May 19, 2006 at 09:29:02 PT FoM Not every Republican is a white supremacist, because a lot of people get confused by the rhetoric and don't understand the true agenda of the people that are really at the center of the organization. But racism, and white supremacy, is very much part of the unstated, real agenda of a lot of the financiers and strategists. That's why I get upset about the immigration issue because I know that people really do disagree about this but the folks pushing it at the top are trying to use it for racial reasons.John Gibson just let something slip, but it is what they think. They hate "multiculturalism." Rush Limbaugh has been all about this for decades, but he makes his schtick more of a comic thing (though I haven't listened to his broadcast in years and he might have gotten even more harsh too). They want a White culture, a White language, and White babies. They tolerate others, but only to a point and only as long as they are kept in line and subservient to their White power structure. [ Post Comment ] Comment #34 posted by FoM on May 19, 2006 at 09:07:17 PT Did Anyone Hear O'Reilly? I watch Keith Obermann on MSNBC and he said something about O'Reilly saying have kids because soon the white ruling class will become a minority. I might not be quoting that exactly right but if he did say that I see republicans as KKK people. Am I reading this wrong or are republicans closet white supremists? [ Post Comment ] Comment #33 posted by FoM on May 19, 2006 at 08:24:36 PT Hope I wish I believed that everyone mattered in the USA but it just isn't true. I have seen it with my own eyes. [ Post Comment ] Comment #32 posted by Hope on May 19, 2006 at 08:20:24 PT The world is cruel enough by itself. It's appalling that so many in power want harm to come to their fellow humans for their gain. [ Post Comment ] Comment #31 posted by FoM on May 19, 2006 at 08:11:35 PT freewillks I believe if a seriously contagious bird flu hits the USA people in cities that aren't the powerful people will be locked down and will just die or get better. It will eliminate people and that will be ok with those in power since it will take out the poor and elderly and weak first. [ Post Comment ] Comment #30 posted by freewillks on May 19, 2006 at 08:07:29 PT CBD could have use in treating bird flu outbreak? "Investigators also reported that CBD significantly lowered plasma levels of the pro-inflammatory cykotines (spelling) (proteins), INF-gamma and TNF-alpha, and significantly reduced the severity of insulitis (an infiltration of white blood cells resulting in swelling) compared to non-treated controls."The H5N1 virus caused proteins known as cytokines to rush to infected lung tissue -- evidence of a so-called cytokine storm, an immune system overreaction that can be fatal.Bird Flu will kill millions of people, But we all know the FDA will let us die before they let the research be done to prove this theory. [ Post Comment ] Comment #29 posted by FoM on May 19, 2006 at 08:06:08 PT Hope Free thinking is soon going to be a punishable offense the way things are going. [ Post Comment ] Comment #28 posted by Hope on May 19, 2006 at 08:03:03 PT Americans are forced to live with a jack-boot on their necks...seems to me. Don't eat this. Don't touch that. Don't smoke that. Don't think. [ Post Comment ] Comment #27 posted by FoM on May 19, 2006 at 07:54:42 PT Storm Crow It boggles my mind too. Synthetic is A OK but the natural plant do not pass go and proceed promptly to prison. It's down right insanity to me. [ Post Comment ] Comment #26 posted by Hope on May 19, 2006 at 07:53:46 PT In addition... the "war" on cannabis has created fodder to feed the prison industry.I hate what they are doing to people. [ Post Comment ] Comment #25 posted by Hope on May 19, 2006 at 07:50:47 PT Storm Crow, your "awful thought" is right on. "Could the FDA be being bribed by the pharmaceutical companies to keep the profits up? Could our government not give 2 cents about the health and welfare of its people?" [ Post Comment ] Comment #24 posted by Storm Crow on May 19, 2006 at 07:37:54 PT THC's Split Personality OK, we have natural THC as schedule 1, we have Cesamet an analog (a structural derivative) of THC as schedule 2, and we have Marinol, a synthetic THC as schedule 3! These are all basically THC. For years the FDA has said that natural and synthetic vitamins are exactly the same, so couldn't we argue that all THC is created equal whether it is natural or synthetic? So why the difference in the scheduling? Could it be because you can GROW your own medicine with the schedule 1, natural cannabis? And the synthetic and analog are beyond our ability to produce and must be made by a phrmaceutical company for well above the price of natural cannabis? I just had an awful thought! Could the FDA be being bribed by the pharmaceutical companies to keep the profits up? Could our government not give 2 cents about the health and welfare of its people? It boggles the mind that our government could possibly be corrupt! [ Post Comment ] Comment #23 posted by FoM on May 19, 2006 at 07:37:00 PT goneposthole You said vote the two major parties out. If people don't vote the republicans out we will have more republicans. We don't have any of the minor parties here that I know of. I say vote out republicans so we stand at least a chance. [ Post Comment ] Comment #22 posted by goneposthole on May 19, 2006 at 06:46:28 PT Bush's poll numbers President George Bush's poll numbers are dismal. He has a majority in just three states.http://surveyusa.com/50State2006/50StatePres060515Approval.htmThe sooner he is gone, the better. America can't take it anymore. [ Post Comment ] Comment #21 posted by goneposthole on May 19, 2006 at 06:40:41 PT "I feel wonderful" The comment of a leukemia sufferer on a talk radio program last night. He was prescribed Marinol. Before that, he was losing weight. He went from 174 pounds down to 150 pounds. He had been prescribed another medication that he could not tolerate and made him nauseous.After eight days of marinol prescription use, he had gained two pounds.The evidence is there. The proof is in the pudding. Cannabis works. Cannabis derivatives work. Synthetic THC works too. The FDA must be coming to its senses.If you have health problems and want to feel better, use cannabis. Smoke your cannabis. Use the whole plant, it does wonders.Vote out the Republicans and Democrats come November, they have ruined the country. Mickey Mouse and Goofy can do a better job. [ Post Comment ] Comment #20 posted by mayan on May 19, 2006 at 06:34:06 PT Right On! The top feature at 9/11 Blogger just happens to be...What's the Truth? How Indeed Did The Twin Towers Collapse? - Full Length Video Download (scroll down): http://www.911blogger.com/2006/05/whats-truth-full-length-video-download.html [ Post Comment ] Comment #19 posted by mayan on May 19, 2006 at 05:43:15 PT JR Bob Dobbs I think it's fishy that this Oliver Stone film isn't based on a conspiracy theory. But then again, the official version IS the nuttiest conspiracy theory of all so I guess he's in his element! If the movie is based on facts it will show bombs bringing THREE buildings down... Evidence Of Thermite On WTC Core Columns - Photo: http://rense.com/general70/pphe.htmThermite Identified As Culprit Of WTC Collapse: http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2006/240406thermiteidentified.htmThermite and the WTC Collapses: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/thermite.htmlSteven E. Jones: A Physics Professor Speaks Out on 9/11: http://www.911research.com/essays/jones/StevenJones.html#paperTaking a Closer Look: Hard Science and the Collapse of the World Trade Center: http://www.physics911.net/closerlook.htm‘BOMBS INSIDE WTC’ - FIRE OFFICER SAYS FIREMEN, COPS KNOW TRUTH: http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/bombs_inside_wtc.htmlWTC7: The Hidden Story of Building 7: http://www.wtc7.net/ Regardless of what happened in D.C. and Pennsylvania, the controlled demolition of three buildings is the ultimate smoking gun. [ Post Comment ] Comment #18 posted by JR Bob Dobbs on May 19, 2006 at 05:01:29 PT OT: Oliver Stone I was reading an article on Oliver Stone's new film "World Trade Center", which will have its previews in front of The DaVinci Code this weekend. I went and downloaded the trailer to take a look. I knew Stone wasn't making a movie like JFK - it's a true story about people who survived in the rubble. But in taking a second look at the trailer, I paused on the shot with the shadow of the plane, at 0:33. Here's a JPG so you don't have to download the whole thing:http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/6571/wtcmoviestill3bq.jpgOliver Stone's movie is a Paramount movie. And while the audience is paying attention to what's inferred through shadow and sound to be in the sky during this two-second shot, look at what most audience members won't see in real-time: Loew's AMC movie theaters, with two Paramount movies advertised. Now, sure, they went for historical accuracy - both films were released in September 2001. But... this is the sort of thing I'd expect from Jerry Bruckheimer. Not Oliver Stone. I apologize for the interruption of the discussion, but I needed somewhere to rant about this. World Trade Center trailer [ Post Comment ] Comment #17 posted by whig on May 18, 2006 at 23:53:16 PT BGreen In the eyes of the law, we are lawbreakers too. It is for this reason our friend Jerry is behind bars. He did nothing wrong. He just watered a plant.I do not want our rights stripped from us. I want everyone to have the right to use the sacred plant, and to have sanctuary. [ Post Comment ] Comment #16 posted by BGreen on May 18, 2006 at 23:27:53 PT I'm a citizen of the USA and they're not I have been hunted by MY government for my support of the sacred cannabis plant, and citizens like runruff are being caged by OUR government, but these poor little illegal lawbreakers are NOT punished like we the citizens, and our government is going to bend over backwards to give them the rights and citizenship that they so vehemently want to take from all of us cannabists.This government has eliminated so many good, intelligent cannabists from the great jobs they used to have and excel at, and now they need to import replacements for the persecuted non-violent American citizens that are being deprived of their liberty in prisons across this once great land.People need to enter the USA legally if they want all of the rights that were supposed to be granted to citizens, and only then will they be accepted as true citizens of my country.My country is giving our rights to every illegal foreigner just as fast as they're stripping them from us.The Reverend Bud Green [ Post Comment ] Comment #15 posted by whig on May 18, 2006 at 23:06:59 PT Max and others I know it seems hard to relate our issue with that of migrants, the immigration issue is also one which we as Cannabists ought to be on the side of Liberty and not on the side of Law Enforcement.This is not agreement with the "temporary worker program" which proposes to maintain a system of inequality which leads to the exploitation of migrants and the reduction of wages and opportunities for Americans.I make no distinction between people on account of their race, religion, color, creed or national origin. Everyone is equal in the sight of God. Migrants should have the same protections, the same wages and the same opportunities as anyone else. Not greater and not less.The Bush administration proposes to keep migrants inferior, to make them dependent on low-wage employer sponsorship to remain, to be indentured servants in our country. Can any good person who understands this support such a program? I cannot, and I do not.But we are given a false dilemma, that the only alternative to this proposal is to arrest, detain and imprison, to treat them as criminals and place them in concentration camps. Deportation might be the supposed goal of these advocates, but it cannot be accomplished in a short time, make no mistake.And this dilemma is intended to bring us to that point, which is why Halliburton has been hard at work building all the camps they have been contracted to. Detention camps. Work camps. Deportation camps.This is what Tancredo wants. This is who Lou Dobbs aligns himself with. Willkommen. [ Post Comment ] Comment #14 posted by whig on May 18, 2006 at 22:45:47 PT As long as we're citing Counterpunch From current front-page:http://www.counterpunch.org/santos05182006.html [ Post Comment ] Comment #13 posted by BGreen on May 18, 2006 at 22:28:26 PT US Army Psyops interned at CNN http://www.counterpunch.org/cnnpsyops.htmlMarch 26, 2000CNN AND PSYOPSBy Alexander CockburnMilitary personnel from the Fourth Psychological Operations Group based at Fort Bragg, in North Carolina, have until recently been working in CNN's hq in Atlanta.CNN is up in arms about our report in the last issue of CounterPunch concerning the findings of the Dutch journalist, Abe de Vries about the presence of US Army personnel at CNN, owned by Time-Warner. We cited an article by de Vries which appeared on February 21 in the reputable Dutch daily newspaper Trouw, originally translated into English and placed on the web by Emperor's Clothes. De Vries reported that a handful of military personnel from the Third Psychological Operations Battalion, part of the airmobile Fourth Psychological Operations Group based at Fort Bragg, in North Carolina, had worked in CNN's hq in Atlanta.(Snippy snippy)http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=03/04/07/0237203Frank Sesno On Psyops Interns at CNNYou never know who you are going to run into at the Republican National Convention. Roaming around the non-unionized First Union Center where the convention is taking place, Democracy Now! caught up with Frank Sesno, Vice President of CNN News. We asked him about recently exposed story that CNN was using Army Psychological Operations, or Psyops people as news interns. [ Post Comment ] Comment #12 posted by afterburner on May 18, 2006 at 22:13:02 PT Canada & Harper's Mandatory Minimums CN BC: Column: Bill On Sentences Will Backfire. URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v06/n630/a08.html Newshawk: Educators For Sensible Drug Policy: http://www.efsdp.org Pubdate: Wed, 10 May 2006. Source: Vancouver Courier (CN BC) [ Post Comment ] Comment #11 posted by FoM on May 18, 2006 at 21:23:32 PT Max Flowers We use to get New World International from Canada on DirecTV. I noticed that it was plain and not hyped. It covered stories of interest to average Canadians I think. Human interest type stories. Police not being mean to someone they had to arrest. I don't remember commercials. They seemed to report the news and that was all. That's the way it should be. [ Post Comment ] Comment #10 posted by whig on May 18, 2006 at 21:04:07 PT Lou Dobbs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lou_DobbsDobbs is a self-described "lifelong Republican" who has become disenchanted with the policies of George W. Bush's administration. [ Post Comment ] Comment #9 posted by whig on May 18, 2006 at 20:57:59 PT Max Lou Dobbs is a right-wing populist, he's more conservative than the administration. [ Post Comment ] Comment #8 posted by Max Flowers on May 18, 2006 at 20:53:53 PT Proof CNN is creating propaganda ...rather than reporting news (as if we needed proof).From the prisonplanet/infowars.com link that mayan put up:WTC survivor and truth activist William Rodriguez was contacted by the Anderson Cooper 360 show and asked if he would go on record as saying the new Pentagon footage dispelled all 9/11 questions. They also requested that he attack Charlie Sheen's public stance on 9/11.Can you believe how blatant these people are?? They have no business trying to get people to say things! Their job is to report what people say, whatever that may be and wherever it may lead. They are supposed to just report events, not engineer them! The state of so-called journalism has reached an all-time low. This is all the proof I need to see that CNN is totally in bed with the neocons, fabricating "news" at their behest. Are there no laws against this? It is disgusting.Yet, confusingly, they also have people like Lou Dobbs who I'm told has been very busy today trying hard to make Bush look as bad as he possibly can over the border issue (thanks Lou, I think...). This would seem to refute the idea that CNN and the administration are in cahoots. WTF? [ Post Comment ] Comment #7 posted by whig on May 18, 2006 at 18:06:34 PT mayan You think that's bad?http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4996140.stm [ Post Comment ] Comment #6 posted by mayan on May 18, 2006 at 17:40:54 PT What's Happening? Couple Arrested For Asking For Directions: http://www.thewbalchannel.com/news/9229472/detail.htmlI've noticed that cops are being even bigger a**holes than usual as of late. This country is really going down the tubes. [ Post Comment ] Comment #5 posted by FoM on May 18, 2006 at 17:26:54 PT Mayan I'm glad you bought LWW. Neil Young could have retired after Prairie Wind and Heart of Gold but he didn't. He has been a great example of trying to stay true to his hippie dream. I know he is very wealthy but not near as wealthy as he could be if he had sold out and let them use his music on commercials. Everyone should have someone they admire. I admire Neil and Pegi Young. [ Post Comment ] Comment #4 posted by mayan on May 18, 2006 at 17:19:05 PT FoM I just went and bought LWW at the local record shop which is run by two brothers who are straight from the 60's! One of the brothers said that LWW is really controversial and I said that's a good thing. I then said that it wasn't as contoversial as the mainstream media made it out to be because a majority of Americans now agree with Neil's message. He said that's true but he doesn't understand why the younger generation doesn't protest the Iraq war like his generation did Vietnam. I said just wait until they get drafted. He said that ought to get them off of their asses.I am proud to pay money for LWW. I will probably even get the Dixie Chicks new one also!Bush is guilty of treason and murder and should be imprisoned immediately following his trial. [ Post Comment ] Comment #3 posted by mayan on May 18, 2006 at 17:05:43 PT Australia From the last article on the bulletin...Though government officials endorsed the policy change, they admitted that they lack the legal authority to compel states to overturn their more liberal cannabis laws.Not to mention that the Australian people don't want any more insane laws crammed down their throats! To hell with their Neo-con ass-kissin' government too!THE WAY OUT IS THE WAY IN...CNN Shopping For Guests To Attack Charlie Sheen: http://prisonplanet.com/articles/may2006/180506attacksheen.htmNew Pentagon video shows no Boeing airliner: http://www.total911.info/2006/05/new-pentagon-video-shows-no-boeing.htmlSkeptics doubt new 9/11 Pentagon footage: http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=b3ba5317-1678-46a7-a04d-58846a90a819&k=83331&p=2Pentagon Video Observations: http://rense.com/general71/pentvi.htmFormer NY Times reporter Judith Miller to assert she was warned of large scale attack before 9/11: http://tinyurl.com/qo8jp"Loose Change" author on Canadian television regarding "new" 911 video: http://resurrectingthelede.blogspot.com/2006/05/loose-change-author-on-canadian.htmlOMNI TV's Prime Time Program 'The Standard' to Host Barry Zwicker Interview: http://www.911blogger.com/2006/05/omni-tvs-prime-time-program-standard.html [ Post Comment ] Comment #2 posted by FoM on May 18, 2006 at 16:48:45 PT Friendly Reminder: That 70s Show Finale Tonight http://www.that70sshow.com/index.htm [ Post Comment ] Comment #1 posted by MikeEEEEE on May 18, 2006 at 15:36:00 PT Australian Government Urges States To Overturn Dec I wonder if this endorsement came from the Bush visit recently by the Australian president.I hope the states have enough sense to ignore it. 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