cannabisnews.com: Growing Pot for Science Growing Pot for Science Posted by CN Staff on February 16, 2006 at 10:01:37 PT By Ishani Ganguli Source: The Scientist Massachusetts -- Lyle Craker has never seen a live marijuana plant. But the medicinal plant and herb scientist, who has been a professor at University of Massachusetts, Amherst, for more than 35 years, has found himself in a haze of legal battles with the government for the chance to grow cannabis for US researchers.Craker was first approached by cannabis advocate Rick Doblin in 2001 about helping to change the fact that for 37 years, the government has had a contract with just a single marijuana grower. Founder and president of the Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS), Doblin has been struggling since the early 1990s to successfully steer research on the medical benefits of marijuana through government regulations. In Craker, Doblin found his ideal scientific ally, whom he called a Rosa Parks for marijuana research: a tenured senior faculty member without ties to the movement for the legalization of marijuana and who had “never smoked pot in his life.”Though the drug has long been researched for its harmful physiological effects, it has more recently been touted for its potential medical benefits, for example: in reducing nausea in cancer patients undergoing chemotherapy, counteracting appetite suppression in patients with AIDS, and controlling the high internal eye pressure that can lead to glaucoma. A synthetic version of marijuana’s main bioactive ingredient, tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), is now the prescription drug Marinol.MAPS and Craker want to grow and distribute their own marijuana for FDA-approved, privately funded research, because they say the government’s current supply, contracted out to be grown only by Mahmoud ElSohly at the University of Mississippi, is difficult to access, unavailable for potential pharmaceutical development, inconsistent in chemical make-up, and simply not strong enough to be useful for most research.The majority of this current stock is grown outdoors. ElSohly acknowledges that variable weather conditions and the single growing season limits his control over the plants, but he calls critiques of their quality “negative propaganda” that is “very very false.” Between these crops and, recently, a few indoor plants, ElSohly says he can produce marijuana plants whose extracts include up to 40% THC by mass, and he can customize his cannabis to researchers’ requests. Despite complaints from researchers, a single grower “has been more than adequate to produce the marijuana needed for research purposes,” says Steve Gust, special assistant to the director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse, which oversees distribution of research marijuana.Craker thinks he can do better. “I’ve been growing plants my entire life,” he says. “Am I worried about being able to grow this plant? Not at all.” Craker says he would standardize the cannabis in a controlled environment, adjusting for factors such as day length and temperature to produce plants having greater and more consistent quantities of the bioactive cannabinoids, THC and cannabidiol. “We’ve agreed to everything they’ve said about security: video camera, 24 hour guards. … We’ve talked about accurate counting of every leaf.”MAPS would provide the funding, Craker, the green thumb, and the Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA), they hope, the necessary permit. But five years, one lost then rejected application, and two court appeals later, Craker and Doblin say they have been frustrated by intimidating official visits and unnecessary delays. “People think we’re dumb to do it,” says Doblin, but others don’t. He has drummed up support from University of Massachusetts, Amherst, both Massachusetts senators, 38 US representatives who signed a letter to the DEA, and even the president of the conservative Americans for Tax Reform, Grover Norquist. They are now awaiting the DEA judge’s decision in their latest appeal.In the meantime, scientists like Jeffry Stock at Princeton University, who studies the anti-inflammatory effects of cannibinoids, can also order the individual chemicals from standard commercial sources such as Sigma-Aldrich. “All of them are available in pure form, and it’s cheap,” he says. He notes that “the FDA traditionally … has only approved defined chemical substances as drugs.”ElSohly has another solution: Craker “needs to compete for the exact same contract the next time it comes around, and if he wins that contract, he will be the one doing this and I will not. The competition is there, it’s open.”Source: The Scientist (US)Author: Ishani Ganguli Published: February 2006 - Volume 20 - Issue 2 - Page 20 Copyright: 2006 The Scientist, Inc.Contact: editorial the-scientist.comWebsite: http://www.the-scientist.com/Related Articles & Web Site:MAPShttp://www.maps.org/ Federal Marijuana Monopoly Challenged http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread21472.shtmlOle Miss Marijuana Monopoly Under Fire http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread21392.shtmlProf. Questions Gov't Monopoly on Marijuanahttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread21375.shtml Home Comment Email Register Recent Comments Help Comment #141 posted by FoM on February 20, 2006 at 07:50:24 PT Toker00 Don't give up and don't get discouraged. I really like the forum. It could become a really good forum for different topics that we care about. Keep us informed here on CNews. [ Post Comment ] Comment #140 posted by BGreen on February 20, 2006 at 04:43:57 PT Toker00 Do you have something like Yahoo auto fill installed?I've read in the past that some people have had trouble similar to yours because one of the auto fill programs was obscuring the text in forms.It's just a thought.The Reverend Bud Green [ Post Comment ] Comment #139 posted by Toker00 on February 20, 2006 at 03:30:08 PT zip... I am using the last link that Hope posted to get there, and I used the one you posted on an earlier thread. I've used TokerOO, toker00, tokerOO, Toker00, password random, nothing works. I still don't understand why I can't SEE what I am typing. There are no boxes to type in, but I type anyway, can't see what I type, and I always get a failed log-in message. The only thing that I see is black background and white letters. Could MY security settings be preventing me from logging on? Also, there was one time there when my e-mail address had a yellow box. I filled it in, the letters were white and barely visible on the yellow background. But no other "boxes" became visible. I've used IE and FF. I'll keep trying. Surely it's something simple I am neglecting on my end.Wage peace on war. END CANNABIS PROHIBITION NOW! [ Post Comment ] Comment #138 posted by museman on February 19, 2006 at 20:01:02 PT toker00 I logged in as you and it worked. I am not logged in as you now. The thing is slightly more complicated than I thought, but we're working out the bugs. Hope you can make it over. [ Post Comment ] Comment #137 posted by museman on February 19, 2006 at 19:54:53 PT toker00 Did you try to log in with the username 'Toker00' ? pass-'random' ? I tried and it worked. OK now I got to go post under Toker00 just to see. [ Post Comment ] Comment #136 posted by FoM on February 19, 2006 at 18:22:43 PT Hope Thank you. I had to highlight it then it worked. [ Post Comment ] Comment #135 posted by Hope on February 19, 2006 at 17:53:06 PT FoM Your picture is up over at Museman's place. A running horse. I had a hard time seeing it first because it's pretty near the color of the background. But it's there if you look close. [ Post Comment ] Comment #134 posted by FoM on February 19, 2006 at 17:33:44 PT Toker00 Good luck. [ Post Comment ] Comment #133 posted by Toker00 on February 19, 2006 at 17:10:29 PT Thanks, FoM. I'll try IE.Toke. [ Post Comment ] Comment #132 posted by FoM on February 19, 2006 at 16:57:12 PT Toker00 Did you get registered ok? When I type in the message section I see what I'm typing. Have you tried it with a different browser? I just tried to attach an image but it didn't work. There are a few bugs but it seems like a nice forum. I'm answering you because I read where museman had to go to practice. [ Post Comment ] Comment #131 posted by Toker00 on February 19, 2006 at 16:44:35 PT I tried again without success. Am I suppose to see what I am typing as I type? I see nothing but black screen where normally there is a "box", "window" for login info. Toke. [ Post Comment ] Comment #130 posted by FoM on February 19, 2006 at 15:09:43 PT museman That's great! I figured out how to raise the font size and post an image. Nice board. Good job. [ Post Comment ] Comment #129 posted by museman on February 19, 2006 at 14:56:26 PT FoM I just succeeded in uploading an image from my desktop to the post. it worked [ Post Comment ] Comment #128 posted by museman on February 19, 2006 at 14:43:00 PT FoM It's done by linking to an online image. some explanation [ Post Comment ] Comment #127 posted by museman on February 19, 2006 at 14:21:27 PT toker00 I couldn't figure it out, but I made a temporary bypass. I changed an already registered name that was expired (they never posted) to Toker00The password is 'random' we can change it after you get in.I'm afraid that my server won't allow any new members for a day, I might be able to set up one more today, but if no more new members can post tomorrow, other options will have to be explored. That forum has some nice features, but if we can't use it, I have an old basic 'frontpage html' forum which isn't nearly as pretty, but has less 'moving parts' if you know what I mean. One more day... [ Post Comment ] Comment #126 posted by FoM on February 19, 2006 at 12:51:11 PT museman I haven't had any trouble. How do we post a picture in a comment? I use IE. [ Post Comment ] Comment #125 posted by museman on February 19, 2006 at 12:41:12 PT toker00 I am trying to figure it out. I did notice that it rejected some random characters used as 'emails' you may have to make the email address look more convincing. My favorite bogus email for example is george whitehouse.com. I'm not sure that this is it. In tried to register as museman, and I got errors, said I was already registered. I will keep trying ot figure it out. [ Post Comment ] Comment #124 posted by Toker00 on February 19, 2006 at 09:35:58 PT Hope, museman I tried to register, but nothing appeared when I typed. Help?Wage peace on war. END CANNABIS PROHIBITION NOW! [ Post Comment ] Comment #123 posted by Hope on February 18, 2006 at 19:45:02 PT Comment 119 Sounds good to me. http://wholeearthfamily.org/XMB/viewthread.php?tid=1&page=1#pid11I've been waiting on you guys. [ Post Comment ] Comment #122 posted by FoM on February 18, 2006 at 19:42:08 PT Whig I don't know anyone but the link has a phone number. You could call and ask if a regular commentor from CNews ( we are known fairly well ) could drop in just to see how it all is happening in the Berkeley area. You might be a future resident of Berkeley and then maybe you will be able to get a card if that's how they do it or recommend a Doctor that might be able to help you with your headaches. [ Post Comment ] Comment #121 posted by whig on February 18, 2006 at 19:36:42 PT FoM Looks like a great place, do you know anyone there that I could say hello to while I'm in town? Would it be awkward for an out of town visitor? I don't have any idea what to expect. [ Post Comment ] Comment #120 posted by FoM on February 18, 2006 at 19:21:15 PT Whig Maybe you could drop by this place when in Berkeley.http://www.berkeleypatientsgroup.com/ [ Post Comment ] Comment #119 posted by whig on February 18, 2006 at 19:19:21 PT Toker00 I've thought some more about the Peace Church idea and I still think it's a good idea if it's properly considered but not something that should try to organize anyone, and I think this is it right here and we really are. I'll try to write more about it when I'm not feeling so pressured by other things, and it's just about the idea that we might want to have a context in which people can CHOOSE to get together with one another and we can EXPECT that it will be like CNews in that not everyone who might come is with us, but if we are righteous and peaceful and honest, then we have truth power and this is what we're doing HERE too. [ Post Comment ] Comment #118 posted by whig on February 18, 2006 at 19:14:39 PT Max Thanks for making me feel better about moving, and if we wind up there I definitely hope we can meet up. I'll actually be there on March 8 and my wife will be in meetings but I don't have any specific plans except to wander around and see what things are like up there. [ Post Comment ] Comment #117 posted by whig on February 18, 2006 at 19:10:51 PT Comment #94 Btw, I agree with what I think you're saying here. Leviticus is a twisted scripture, too. We need to think for ourselves and never have blind faith, that doesn't mean we shouldn't listen to all perspectives and including all aspects of God which all of us are too. Namaste. [ Post Comment ] Comment #116 posted by afterburner on February 17, 2006 at 22:28:17 PT 'The Era of Confrontational Politics Is Over' So said someone in 1975 in an off-hand attack on the activist Ann Arbor Sun newspaper. Then, we got Carter's failed decriminalization, Ronald Reagan and 'just say no,' and urine testing, and mandatory minimums, and students losing student loans, and paraphernalia laws, and the attack on Tom and Rollie, and the attacks on WAMM, Dr. Tod Mikuriya, Ed Rosenthal, Steve Kubby, Tommy Chong, the disgraceful jailing and death of Jonathan Magbie, and the death of Peter McWilliams denied his life-saving medicine, and the shooting down of a plane in which U.S. missionary Veronica Bowers and her 7-month-old daughter were killed, and the US Supreme Court's illogical Commerce Clause ruling against Angel Raich, and Souder and Sensenbrenner's vindictive legal manipulations, and the interference in State political initiatives and legislative actions by White House drug czar John Walters and his minions, and so many more tragedies. In other words, the federal government has continued to *confront* us. Why should we not confront them back in the press, the Internet, and the courts? 'Won't back down!' ego transcendence or ego destruction, yours to discover! [ Post Comment ] Comment #115 posted by global_warming on February 17, 2006 at 17:15:06 PT the vail is the same for some old horse,as for some old 'dog,this tired 'soul,sings, music, into the infinine 'night,'forever,may my gentle hand, embrace this 'universe,as 'witness,martyr,and childwho can see,crooked folly,pride and wrongness,may 'we end this war on people,may this American Constitution,join those bloodied footprints,that mark those 'infinite steps,that 'stand in front of 'our universe, [ Post Comment ] Comment #114 posted by FoM on February 17, 2006 at 17:01:59 PT global_warming You're welcome. I hope you have a nice weekend. [ Post Comment ] Comment #113 posted by global_warming on February 17, 2006 at 16:42:05 PT just passing through this blood and gutspart of this 'friendly,space, on this digital page, ..so much 'thanks, lady fom, [ Post Comment ] Comment #112 posted by global_warming on February 17, 2006 at 16:31:36 PT there is music that helps to forget,even the 'music,cannot forgive my 'wretched soul,i' cannot forget,in my 'little glimpse,of this Light,as i am a servent,at this incredible table,when , some cup is held 'up,who my i 'must bow,who is my 'master? [ Post Comment ] Comment #111 posted by global_warming on February 17, 2006 at 16:10:21 PT re:certain areas and strong convictions,hope those convictions,have not any part .in this crazed legal system,much better,that your 'blessed conviction,may have an open hand,twinkle,this universe,that 'we are part,openly proclaims,that 'we join,become upstanding members, [ Post Comment ] Comment #110 posted by FoM on February 17, 2006 at 15:30:18 PT museman Being true to our convictions is important. I have strong opinions in certain areas and I just won't change my mind on them. It just isn't worth it to me. I understand what you mean. [ Post Comment ] Comment #109 posted by global_warming on February 17, 2006 at 15:08:43 PT Money is important because we need it to live. Man does not 'live by bread alone,That was awesome, thanks MM, [ Post Comment ] Comment #108 posted by museman on February 17, 2006 at 14:25:03 PT runruffswife Yes. Nature has always been the safety zone for refugees. Now we don't even have that to fall back on, it's patrolled and policed by GPS, BLM, DEA, and Homeland Stupidity oops I mean 'Security.'Constitution, Constitution, Constitution. Is it ours or theirs? If you can see the 'they' as clearly as I, then you know that what it is supposed to be is most certainly not what it is. [ Post Comment ] Comment #107 posted by museman on February 17, 2006 at 14:07:07 PT FoM Money, like guns, are just objects. If they lay there and no one touches them, they do no harm, but both money and guns were DESIGNED to do harm. The fact that we live in Caesars realm does not in itself validate Caesar. We can be forgiven for the things we HAVE to do to survive, but there are a lot of things that people do to justify things far beyond just survival. If given a clear choice I can't see how people could choose the contrived, controlled subjugation of the weights and measures of wealth and propriety, over the inherent existent liberty and freedom of living a balanced life with the Earth, which includes getting it all over you from time to time.Of course the choices only become clear when you take the chance and explore the possibilities. One actual road trip is worth months and years of a time, circumstance, and career committed life style, in terms of valuable quality experience. Having been in a sedentary lifestyle now for more than half a decade, I have come back full circle to the simplicity of living today, in the moment. If I am to survive another decade, I must get off my own arse and continue the journey. Living in American towns is hazardous to my health. Got to get back to the garden.And I absolutely cannot compromise my convictions. I respect and uphold everyones right to believe what they want, to live according to their own understanding, yet knowledge begets rsponsibility. I therefore cannot in good conscience ignore what I percive to be error. I shall not judge, but I shall not let it pass by me as error, unless my understanding is proven wrong."We're only dancin' on this earth for a short while." Cat StevensNo time to pretend, always time to stand up in truth. So Well Done Here! [ Post Comment ] Comment #106 posted by FoM on February 17, 2006 at 13:27:28 PT museman I really liked the pictures. You are a very interesting person. Money is important because we need it to live. I don't want much of anything anymore except fixing up my home that we built a million years ago. I have been very lucky in my life to have experienced unending money it seemed but I also have lived counting pennys. Between being rich or just getting by I like just getting by better. I don't like the hoopla that goes with having a little too much money. Money becomes an end and there is never enough of it if that is what a person wants. [ Post Comment ] Comment #105 posted by runruffswife on February 17, 2006 at 13:25:29 PT: museman - photos Nice images Museman. So the little toehead is SirEbram! It looks like you lived very close with nature. [ Post Comment ] Comment #104 posted by museman on February 17, 2006 at 13:22:34 PT FoM: Julia Butterfly Well I have to check out her site, but I know who she is, thanks for pointing that out to me. [ Post Comment ] Comment #103 posted by museman on February 17, 2006 at 13:14:36 PT FoM Bus pics They are about 20 years old. That young man I am holding is now off on his own.The young blond in the other photos is none other than SirEbram.I do recognize that I am a living extreme. Hard to handle in close proximity. I am no stranger to poverty in America. I know all about empowerment, and the lack of it. I am always trying to see how those with so much can get by with doing so little.As an example; Every time I go to the local Walmart area (I HATE Walmart) there is always someone there with a sign telling of their misfortune. Up until recently they were mostly obvious alcoholic homeless, 'begging creatively' now however there are whole families that stand there with their signs pleading for help. Every single time except once, I have watched people drive by in their spotless designer cars, without so much as acknowledging their existence let alone showing any signs of true charity. So it is up to people like me, who really can't afford anything but the basics, to see clear to let go of a couple of bucks. I have watched time and time again, the scenario of Nicodemous play out. My Guru said; "Truly I say unto you, that it would be easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than a rich man to enter into Heaven." I have seen why. The motivations of greed always trump the motivations of soul, as long as money is the prime focus, the 'bottom line' of any endeavor. No matter how good the intentions.If all those 'good' people, most of whom would probably think of themselves as 'charitable christians' actually practiced the tenants of Y'shua, I would have absolutely nothing to bitch about, and this world would be a very different place.I just can't support it. (Money and propriety)It goes against my grain. revealing photos (not lewd) [ Post Comment ] Comment #102 posted by Max Flowers on February 17, 2006 at 12:51:44 PT Replies jose, thanks. I wish I had a place to offer Michele. I'm going to talk to some people but I don't know if I'll come up with anything.Thanks Hope, you're sweet. However it is probably a digital illusion... I'm as vulnerable as the next guy. This part of California is indeed warm come spring and summer and the first half of fall, but right now it sure is cold and clammy! [ Post Comment ] Comment #101 posted by FoM on February 17, 2006 at 11:42:13 PT herbdoc215 I enjoyed Mammoth Cave and the other caves we stopped and toured in Kentucky. I guess I just down right marvel at nature's creations. Show me a big building and I don't care but show me a glorious mountain and I will become mesmerized. [ Post Comment ] Comment #100 posted by FoM on February 17, 2006 at 11:37:09 PT Julia Butterfly museman, the Circle of Life Foundation is Julia Butterflys.http://www.circleoflifefoundation.org/Portion of lyrics from Sun Green:‘I'd still like to meet Julia ButterflyAnd see what remedy bringsAnd be a goddess in the planet warsTry to save the living things"But that might not be easyLivin' on the runMother Earth has many enemiesThere's much work to be done [ Post Comment ] Comment #99 posted by FoM on February 17, 2006 at 11:30:05 PT museman I am starting to understand now. It's a good thing. I guess that I think of Neil Young as a singing prophet of sorts. I don't know how to describe why I feel that way but I do. When I try to sort out political articles the information in my head scrambles and I can't figure it out. Sing a Song for Freedom (SAS) that's a name I use on a NY board when I post, is how much I believe in the power of music. Let your dream grow. Sometimes we as human beings think that people all can do the things we do but that isn't so. Everyone has a unique gift and if it is developed it will help others and make this journey we travel much more pleasant for us and all that come in contact with us I believe.Greendale was a rock concert but it was a live stage play. Everything is connected in Greendale and when they show what we are doing in Alaska on the big screen it made me cringe. All of Neil's coaches, and there were 17 of them, ran on bio diesel. Greendale Article: http://www.freedomtoexhale.com/radio.htmCheck out the words to Sun Green and Be The Rain at the bottom of the page.Greendale Lyrics: http://www.freedomtoexhale.com/greendale.htm [ Post Comment ] Comment #98 posted by museman on February 17, 2006 at 11:19:52 PT FoM Thanks for those links. The hempmobile is exactly the kind of thing I want to showcase. I will have to delve deeper into the circle of life links, I am very suspicious of any movement that has an upfront 'upper class' oriented outlook. I am not into promoting capitalism or compromising with it, if I have to do that I might as well not, because in the end it will only accomplish comfortable living for the lucky few who happen to be in the spotlight of the 'movement.'I do have a picture of that '47 federal, but it is low resolution quality. I am going to look for the original, because of that. I will put it up hopefully sometime today.Be back later today. Peace [ Post Comment ] Comment #97 posted by museman on February 17, 2006 at 11:02:24 PT Hope:FoM In response to a late night post I didn't get to;I agree with your 'cunning plan.' FoM: you just might be right about that 'prophecy' you mention. The 'traveling show' is of course not a new idea. As a musician I see it quite clearly in it's potential. I believe that we have to do someting to get ourselves back into a more natural relativity- we have to socialize, get out from in front of the TV and computers- at least with some kind of balance.I've seen many types of gatherings, from the totally 'free' (rainbow) to more structured such as the SCA, as well as numerous Barter Fairs. I 'see' the 'show' as a means to demonstrate in a live, 'up close and personal' way, alternatives to the destructive technologies and ways of thinking. As a band leader I realized years ago that the kind cooperation it takes to perform music, is exactly the kind of cooperation that needs to be woven into our daily lives. I thought for years if I could somehow show that, then people would have an example.Of course, years down the line, from the prespective of the stage, I realized that most people, who are not musicians themselves, wouldn't understand. The power of the word wrapped in the magic of music however is still large and wonderful. I had the idea that if a band or bands could illustrate that quality and content of even a small musical peformance can be and is just as great as the biggest headliner at Carnegie Hall, then some realistic balance could come into the music world. Quality and content of music is based on the soul, not the financial access so sought after by the music industry status quo.FoM; Imagine the impact if Neil Young were to give a free concert powered by solar panels, driving up in a Bio-fueled tour-bus. Vendors of alternative food and goods trading on site. Material and information available concerning all variety of alternative resources and optional lifestyles. Explicitly showcasing the uses and benefits of Hemp, and Cannabis.Now imagine it in a smaller venue, with local communities supplying the talent, goods, and services.I call it a 'traveling show' because that is the nature of 'bands' they travel for fresh audiences and venues. The idea is like the 'plug 'n play' component system of a computer. Each 'core' group would posess the means to power a small stage, and lights. One core group could 'plug in' their component (solar panels-sound system) to another, or to the local components. Local artists and musicians could showcase, and trade their talents, goods, and services. It could happen all over without the overhead costs and legalities that contemporary 'festivals' operate under.Small versus Mega.As far as 'organization' goes therein lies the major hurdle and dilemna. I believe that it is possible to iniitiate such an event without hierarchy or 'command structure' so prevalent in the business world. In fact I don't want to be part of anything that designates any kind of 'authority' to anybody. If we can't all be adults, and act responsibly, then I guess TV is it, and I'm done. I haven't given up yet, though I have been dodging metaphorical anti-aircraft weaponry for some time now.As for me, I'm in it for two things; #1 The establishment of the highest aspects of God and Man on planet earth. #2 The music. I got enough of the taste of 'fame' years ago in the Rainbow, and if it approaches my door again, I'm liable to become invisible, and disappear.I hope I answered your questions FoM, if not, ask again. I am 'flying by the seat of my pants' 'playing it by ear' so I don't have all the answers, but I beleive that together WE do. [ Post Comment ] Comment #96 posted by herbdoc215 on February 17, 2006 at 10:57:13 PT Hope,That Great filling Station Hold-up Cost Me 2 Good Years...well in my case it cost me 5 good years but thats all a matter of how you look at it ;) as I had fun playing with the pencils and filling out the forms and all... Which is pretty much how I look at last 5 years also, if it wasn't for the mine and a couple of years of solitutde to get my head back I would probably be a raving lunitic now but while we where all up there quite a few young'uns who worked for us and turned me onto rap got turned onto Buffett, John Prine, and Steve Earle, etc. and it's really cool to watch them turn their friends onto it:) FoM, The reason I went to Western Kentucky U was so I could work at Mammoth Cave Park while going to school, I've been a member of CRF (cave researcg foundation) since 92 and we do all the exploration of the big caves in the world...which was my first love...used to have to go days underground without a ciggy witha apatch on as it's a UN biosphere reserve and VERY protected BUT they always allowed me to medicate on expeditions...I just used to walk away for awhile but sometimes the smell would be around for months and because I was the best technical climber of the bunch nobody ever said boo about my smoking cause it didn't effect my ability at all and these were almost all PhD's and a couple of MD's including a world famous onicologist from Missouri! Caving in places where no other man has ever walked before held a spiritual power for me undescribable! Peace, Steve Tuck [ Post Comment ] Comment #95 posted by FoM on February 17, 2006 at 10:20:26 PT museman Did you see the links I posted? Do you have a picture of your bus? Have you seen the Hemp Car? If you pass our way we would have sewer and water hookups for you. If my questions seem dumb it's because I really am not sure what you are planning and really want to know. We talked about selling everything and traveling but we can't really do that because of possible health problems with my husband. He has HepC and he has been healthy for quite a while now but a lot of his good health has been taking care not to do more then he should. http://www.hempcar.org/http://www.wetheplanet.org/http://www.circleoflifefoundation.org/ [ Post Comment ] Comment #94 posted by museman on February 17, 2006 at 10:06:29 PT toker00 Well nobody's perfect, I've had to make compromises with my own ethics just to survive sometimes, though there are some lines I will not cross even with a gun to my head. I actually am beginning to believe that I did do the 'right' thing, specially where it concerns my children. I will leave this planet knowing I gave 'em the truth, and that they not only accepted it, but embraced it.Watching the front lines in the ongoing battle for freedom, the whole picture gets easier to see. I marvel at how the adversarial powers manage to continue to uphold their lies in such light of truth and understanding that is finally dawning on planet Earth. Make no mistake over-all mankind is still in the spiritual dark ages, but never before has such light been shared by so many, such availability of knowledge that even the adversary-if it posessed any true wisdom- would have the opportunity to become enlightened.In the very near future ignorance will definitely be no excuse for the kinds of things still going on that are actually left over from the Dark Ages. Freedom is not a gift. It is there, but you have to walk up to it and seize it. Then you have to be ready to defend it with all the righteousness and truth you can muster, because all those lazy powerful people don't want you to make them have to confront their own dark souls in the mirror that the truth becomes in you. So they persecute you, and imprison you, and accuse you of crimes and statutes that they make up on the spot, then repeat as 'precedent.' They establish wrongful law and injustice calling it 'truth.'They exist. They are not 'us,' they are most definitely 'them.' Though we may all carry adversity, and other human weaknesses, 'they' have signed their contracts with the 'devil' and no amount of wishful thinking is going to pull them back over to the real side of existence- they adamantly believe in their 'right' to be "Lords.""Lord" is a direct translation of the name 'BA-AL' which through many other translations is 'Belial' and 'Satan.' Which is one reason why I can stand up without misplaced fear, and with great faith to proclaim that "Jesus is NOT 'Lord'", but Y'shua is my King.Oops! There ya have it. Controversy in one sentence. I state it not to create confusion, but clarity. There are those who will want to argue that the difference between 'Lord' and 'King' is negligible. I will concede that only if they will convince me that the 'glass being half empty' is the same as the 'glass being half full.'A mind that cannot concieve the difference is a fortress of denial, and no truth but finality will go over those walls.My Guru said; "The Truth shall set you free." he also said that those brave enough to stand in truth will be 'persecuted to the ends of the earth.' Now I have to ask all those Cadillac drivin' born again fat cats, "Just who do you think you are?!" [ Post Comment ] Comment #93 posted by Hope on February 17, 2006 at 09:59:25 PT Whig Try not to worry. Pray and trust.California is warm and beautiful and Max is there! I would be a lot more comforted about going into the strange and unknown if I knew Max was going to be there. [ Post Comment ] Comment #92 posted by Hope on February 17, 2006 at 09:56:07 PT Comment 56 I keep going back and reading Museman's words in Comment 56.That ought to be required reading for every citizen. Museman, you are loved and respected for the man you are, the pioneer, the mystic, the musician, the rebel, the free thinker, the friend of man and the earth, and a child of God. [ Post Comment ] Comment #91 posted by jose melendez on February 17, 2006 at 09:38:40 PT Whig and Max Flowers Michelle Kubby is probably still looking for living arrangements, contact her directly at michele kubby.com Marijuana Mission: Criminalize Prohibition [ Post Comment ] Comment #90 posted by FoM on February 17, 2006 at 09:21:33 PT Just a Comment I wish they would stop paying farmers not to grow on land. Years ago and maybe still they have a program for young pregnant women where they get cheese, cereal and milk free. What bothered me so much about that program they dump extra cheese in the ocean rather then give it to people. I hate waste. Maybe these programs aren't around anymore but they sure bothered me years ago. [ Post Comment ] Comment #89 posted by Toker00 on February 17, 2006 at 09:12:41 PT Potpals article. The world will have 100 million extra hungry people by 2015, scientists say. Is that "extra" as in this many more than previously predicted? Or is that "extra hungry", meaning 100 million people who will be hungrier than usual? So, if you won't move the people who are starving to where the food is, then you have to provide a way for them to grow their own food. Gruel, Cannabis/hemp seed would be a vast improvement over the spunk water they eat now. Drop the seeds from an airplane during a rainy season and come spring, Food will sprout from the ground where the hungry people live. You won't have to figure out a way to get it to them. Has hemp EVER been grown in Africa for food?Wage peace on war. END CANNABIS PROHIBITION NOW! [ Post Comment ] Comment #88 posted by Max Flowers on February 17, 2006 at 09:03:11 PT whig, if you're still following this thread If it ends up being Berkeley, you will have a friend in the general area (me). Well, an hour north, but that's sort of still "in the area" to me. Give me a yell if you join The People's Republic Of Berkeley (as my conservative mom likes to call it), okay?cheers, MF [ Post Comment ] Comment #87 posted by potpal on February 17, 2006 at 08:50:04 PT for science...and food! Cannabis now!Millions more starving' by 2015 ... http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/4724282.stm The prohibition of hemp is a crime against humanity. [ Post Comment ] Comment #86 posted by Toker00 on February 17, 2006 at 03:59:17 PT museman Didn't make it back to the discussion last night, but read your message at the link "a music based idea". I must say that is as close to what I feel needs to happen as I could ever put into words. You have abviously put your life into what you believe. It has taken me a lifetime of deception to come right back to the original idea I and many of my friends had in the 60's-70's. I pretty much made a failure of my attempt to join the "Republic" ideals. It's like I had the right idea years ago, but I let it go in exchange for status quo, suffered for it for years, and now I am right back looking at another chance at the "Right" idea, the one I never should have stopped thinking. The one you have made a lifetime out of following. Now I don't envy you, because I am not jealous of what another person does or has. But I certainly admire your long term stick to it-iveness on a way of life whose time has come. Self efficiency and self reliance go hand in hand with thinking for yourself. Through "bartering" for goods and services, creating products rather than buying them to re-sell, a seperate social/trade system could be developed into a Way of Life. There are so many materials laying around that could be re-worked and refurbished and given a new life instead of just rusting or rotting away. Why do we have to have a "NEW" anything? With a little paint and TLC, many things could be made from "nothing". What we are doing is removing the brainwashing centuries in the making. We are "brain rinsing". Removing the artificial and re-embracing the Natural. Finding what lies beneath it all. Realizing what really matters. Finding the lost path. Sifting through the ashes. Well, you get the idea...Don't worry about being paranoid. They'll invade whatever privacy you have established, if they feel a "need" to.I realize everything I post is permanently recorded. Just google yourself and see. If we fail to show the truth to our enemies, how will they come to know it as such, and hopefully accept it? I know the difference between martyrdom and activism, and I've been accused, several times, of having one foot in each. I do not wish to sacrifice my life or freedom, but how can I have either if I must hide to have them? What good do our lives do if we can't live them in the open? I don't like being oppressed. If my choice is oppression or prison, then my choice will be resisting oppression until they through me into prison. Let me know when you come to the Houston/Galveston area, it you ever do.Wage peace on war. END CANNABIS PROHIBITION NOW! [ Post Comment ] Comment #85 posted by jose melendez on February 17, 2006 at 03:27:16 PT Arrest Mahmoud. I have another solution: ElSohly “needs to admit that the exact same contract he currently holds is an illegal monopoly. We must sue the law enforcement officials that collect or approve federal funds based on false claims about cannabis' safety, efficacy and availability, and if he wins that contract again but is exposed to the public as a fraud, he will be the one doing time and we will not. The competition is fixed, this is an unlawful restraint of trade and it is well settled law that the suppression of exculpatory evidence at trial (such as the anticarcinogenic, neuroprotective, pain and stress relieving properties of cannabinoids) is unconstitutional.” [ Post Comment ] Comment #84 posted by Hope on February 16, 2006 at 22:11:23 PT " if God is willin and the creek don't rise." Indeed. [ Post Comment ] Comment #83 posted by FoM on February 16, 2006 at 21:50:32 PT Hope It's been nice. We'll hopefully see you tomorrow if God is willin and the creek don't rise. [ Post Comment ] Comment #82 posted by Hope on February 16, 2006 at 21:48:35 PT My "space" is going to be more crowded, soon. I have to share it, but with someone I love. I've enjoyed listening the Buffet station. I've enjoyed hangin out here, tonight.We got to keep goin. There's a light.Think I'll just have a margarita since I have the ingredients on hand.Buffet makes me want one."Life is a beach". [ Post Comment ] Comment #81 posted by FoM on February 16, 2006 at 21:46:51 PT Hope I never heard that before. It was definitely different. I didn't think it would pass. Nothing good comes in the last minute. They stall and stall. [ Post Comment ] Comment #80 posted by Hope on February 16, 2006 at 21:43:45 PT "Stolen food does not taste sweeter."Just thought I'd throw that in...but it's a funny song.I'm not feeling so funny about tha news about New Mexico, though. [ Post Comment ] Comment #79 posted by Hope on February 16, 2006 at 21:40:51 PT Oh no For my friends, here's a song anyway.Peanut Butter Conspiracy By: Jimmy Buffett 1973Lookin' back at my hard luck days I really do have to laugh Workin' in a dive for twenty six dollars Spendin' it all on grass We were hungry hard-luck heroes Tryin' just to stay alive We'd go down to the corner grocery This is how we'd surviveChorus: Who's gonna steal the peanut butter I'll get the can of sardines Runnin' up and down the aisle of the Mini Mart Stickin' food in our jeans We never took more than we could eat There was plenty left on the rack We all swore if we ever got rich We would pay the Mini Mart back Yes sir! Yes sir! We would pay the Mini Mart backIt was a two man operation Had it all down on a note Ricky would watch that big round mirror And I'd fill up my coat Then we'd head for the check-out aisle With a lemon and a bottle of beer Into the car, got to make it on home Suppertime's getting nearChorus: So who's gonna steal the peanut butter I'll get the can of sardines Runnin' up and down the aisle of the Mini Mart Stickin' food in our jeans Never took more than we could eat There was plenty left on the rack We all swore if we ever got rich We would pay the Mini Mart back Yes sir! Yes sir! We would pay the Mini Mart backI guess every good picker has had some hard times I sure had my share It's really kinda funny to laugh at 'em now But I don't want to go back there So every now and then when I'm in the grocery I'll take a little but not much 'Cause you never know when those hard times'll hitcha And I don't want to lose my touchChorus: So who's gonna steal the peanut butter I'll get the can of sardines Runnin' up and down the aisle of the Mini Mart Stickin' food in our jeans We never took more than we could eat There was plenty left on the rack We all swore if we ever got rich We would pay the Mini Mart back Yes sir! Yes sir! We would pay the Mini Mart back Yes sir, yes sir We would pay the Mini Mart back [ Post Comment ] Comment #78 posted by FoM on February 16, 2006 at 21:33:20 PT One More Thing I just checked our weather and it is 64 degrees. It's 12:30 AM too. Where is winter? It should be in the 20s this time of year. No such thing as global warming hey? [ Post Comment ] Comment #77 posted by FoM on February 16, 2006 at 21:20:28 PT Taylor121 I just read that medical marijuana failed. [ Post Comment ] Comment #76 posted by FoM on February 16, 2006 at 20:55:47 PT Peter Fonda Yes he was the cool one. He played his part very well. That must have been hard to do being the son of such a famous actor. It was a statement movie no doubt. [ Post Comment ] Comment #75 posted by Hope on February 16, 2006 at 20:53:32 PT And Peter Fonda. He was so sweet. [ Post Comment ] Comment #74 posted by FoM on February 16, 2006 at 20:51:06 PT Oops I spelled his name wrong. I really like Dennis Hopper. He has always been living on his own planet. I like Jack Nicholson too. Here's Johnny! LOL! [ Post Comment ] Comment #73 posted by Hope on February 16, 2006 at 20:46:27 PT Yes....I've heard the actors say that. "Did you know that all the marijuana smoked in Easy Rider was real marijuana? They said no fake pot was used. Actually I wonder if Dennis Hooper even remembers making it."I still have a pretty bad crush on Dennis Hopper.:0) [ Post Comment ] Comment #72 posted by FoM on February 16, 2006 at 20:43:54 PT Hope and museman Did you know that all the marijuana smoked in Easy Rider was real marijuana? They said no fake pot was used. Actually I wonder if Dennis Hooper even remembers making it.Here are two good links.http://wetheplanet.org/http://www.circleoflifefoundation.org/ [ Post Comment ] Comment #71 posted by Hope on February 16, 2006 at 20:40:57 PT The actors I've heard they were actually attacked themselves at some points during the filming of the movie. They were harrassed by locals who didn't like the way they looked or their movie. [ Post Comment ] Comment #70 posted by Hope on February 16, 2006 at 20:38:16 PT The Characters I loved them. Then they were killed. It was a powerful movie. [ Post Comment ] Comment #69 posted by FoM on February 16, 2006 at 20:28:30 PT Hope Easy Rider was very sad in the end. It also was a movie about a time when young people dared to be different. A little trivia. They said in the extra footage on the DVD that they didn't want it to be about cocaine but they thought the movie wouldn't have an impact like it did if they sold marijuana not cocaine. Marijuana was almost a non issue then. [ Post Comment ] Comment #68 posted by Hope on February 16, 2006 at 20:24:37 PT You, Museman, are still alive and kicking back, too!That's good and I'm glad. [ Post Comment ] Comment #67 posted by FoM on February 16, 2006 at 20:23:36 PT Hope That's really cool. [ Post Comment ] Comment #66 posted by Hope on February 16, 2006 at 20:23:31 PT Easy Riders! Jack Nicholson, and all the others...they are still alive!That's the only comforting thing about Easy Rider.It's one of the saddest movies ever made. [ Post Comment ] Comment #65 posted by Hope on February 16, 2006 at 20:21:46 PT Easy Rider I had that "flash", too. [ Post Comment ] Comment #64 posted by Hope on February 16, 2006 at 20:20:58 PT We knew when we spoke out that many would despise us. They did. It was not nice...to say the least."Fear not!" I say to myself. It may feel very bad when they laugh at you...but you know they are proud...and they often stumble hideously...sometimes not even realizing why...Life is so short. Everybody needs to be nicer.The sooner, the better.Do you agree with that, Museman? [ Post Comment ] Comment #63 posted by FoM on February 16, 2006 at 20:18:01 PT Easy Rider I just had a flash of how they got in a town parade and got arrested. [ Post Comment ] Comment #62 posted by Hope on February 16, 2006 at 20:14:37 PT I so agree! "Some died believing that the victory of Peace, Love, and Understanding, was a done deal."They have laughed at and ridiculed and persecuted many of us. They have insulted us to our faces. They have proven themselves to be less than wise.I'm worried about their "cunning plan". [ Post Comment ] Comment #61 posted by FoM on February 16, 2006 at 20:11:43 PT museman How about NY's bus. We got to see it when we went to a concert. Really cool.Dolly Parton! Too Much! http://rustedsister.smugmug.com/gallery/81357/1/2826832/Large [ Post Comment ] Comment #60 posted by museman on February 16, 2006 at 20:08:27 PT FoM That made me think of the time when we ended up behind Dolly Parton in a 'Pioneer Days' parade happening in a town we were passing through-somewhere in eastern Oregon circa mid-80's-. Her tour bus was just passing through same as us, but both of us somehow ended up in the parade.Imagine if you can, this incredibly decked out multi-million dollar motor home/Dolly Tour Bus, Dolly smilingly waving out her window as the spectators waved and cheered.And then there was us.We had to pass by the 'reviewing stand' which was announcing each float and etc. that came by. He'd already announced Dolly.As we cruised by at about 3mph he asked us what kind of bus we had. My driver told him."Ladies and gentlement, right behind Dolly Parton, we have a whole bunch of hippies in a 1947 Federal bus." [ Post Comment ] Comment #59 posted by Hope on February 16, 2006 at 20:05:27 PT Yogi Berra I think I just had a Yogi Berra moment. Thinking back on some hard times and my already long life...I found myself thinking, "The hard times were hard."They were. But we still try to find beauty, and care, and wonder, and trust and love.Poems, songs, encouragement, friends, a good cup of coffee. That's why I come here. I try not to think about being spied upon. I wouldn't mind saying to any prohibitionist that might stumble upon these words...perhaps Calvina, Doctor Voth, Steven Steiner... or God know's who...or maybe no one...this. I don't hate you. I really don't. You have my word, whether you value it or not.But I truly, truly do hate the dispicable fruits of the tree you prohibitionists nurture so industriously. Can't you smell the stench...the horror and the harm of it?Welll....no...I guess not. [ Post Comment ] Comment #58 posted by Hope on February 16, 2006 at 19:54:00 PT Museman I havn't finished it yet... but I already have to say too many "Amens!"Amen and Amen and Amen. I so agree with things you are saying.Amen is just sort of a way of saying "I agree!" for me. It's a bit of a habit. [ Post Comment ] Comment #57 posted by FoM on February 16, 2006 at 19:51:53 PT museman That was a very interesting story. Years ago we bought a new 23 foot Class C Motor Home (sold it after about 7 years) and traveled mostly to horse shows but we went to Louisiana and stopped and visited different caves along the way in different states. I like Caves. We went to Mammoth Cave and spent time in Cave City, Kentucky. We went to the Kentucky Horse Park too. We even drove thru Loretta Lynn's Dude Ranch but I don't remember which state it was in. It was wonderful. [ Post Comment ] Comment #56 posted by museman on February 16, 2006 at 19:39:04 PT from psychedelic VW to Winnebago Eveybody is so hung up on that fleeting space and time called 'the '60's.' They talk about it tongue in cheek because they can't face up to the true implications. As if 'Peace, Love, and Understanding' were attributes to be found only in foolish youthful enthusiasm, and only during the 'hippy phase' of my generation. As if the taking of REAL LSD is anything they want to really talk about. I've been in jail handcuffed while the cops joked on and on about hippies and pot. Believe it or not I do have a sense of humor somewhere-now where did I put it?- and I know some really funny TRUE stories concerning 'hippy' type folks. I know powerful, meaningful stories, and magical spiritual tales- all having to do with the REAL people who lived those laughed at lives. Some died believing that the victory of Peace, Love, and Understanding, was a done deal. This is one of the reasons why I never wanted to be a 'hippy' tried all my life to explain that I was just a human being trying not to pretend to be something else. And then some guy who has no reverence for whose sacred ground (if that person even believes in the Sacred) they might be trodding on can earn his(or her) journalistic stipend by such.Didn't the Arab world just recently get very upset over one man's sense of humor, and a community (the western world)that supported it?Humor comes in many varieties. I however do not appreciate humor that is had at other's expense. People used to laugh at those few of us that were attempting to create understanding of such practical things as 'recycling', 'earth coinsciousness,' (which right wing republicans call 'liberal environmnantalists'). They laughed when folks like me stood up way back in 1967, and talked about global warming and the rising of sea levels, what it would do to our planet. They laughed and laughed at my solar panels I had strung up on make-shift stands.I remember back in '83 somehwere near the Great Lakes, during a respite from one of those gatherings I used to attend. As a fellow long haired hippy type and I were getting in the VW we'd just traded for, a fat old redneck in his fifties (about my age now) driving a monster Buick stood there looked at us like we were deer, and said loud enough for all to hear,"Now there goes a dyin' breed." We laughed and laughed all the way back to the gathering.I have no doubt that should I decide to 'humorize' the caracatures of "yuppie" lifestyles, they would be just as non-plussed as I am about such as this.This kind of humor is degrading, and makes fun of some peoples choices in a way which is similar to 'racial humor'.There are some few who believed in it enough to live it all their lives, and just because they aren't featured in the news (except when they get busted for pot) doesn't mean that when the final tally is taken that they are going to be found wanting.And now; the WinnebagosFor many years, my family, and others lived in school buses. There were whole 'tribes' of us that had our geographical preferences as to where we would 'winter' and there restock, repair, and resource. All over the country.The abilty ot live such a lifestyle was systematicly 'ordinanced' and legislated out of America's cultural options. Therefore for a while there was another kind of 'outlaw' as we fought to maintain our own 'preferences.' Eventually those buses got parked indefinitely, and forever on various parcels of land.We left our bus and the house we built of adobe, along with the greenhouse- all one comnplex my sons and I built- for a vacation. While gone, guile, subterfuge and political clout lost us that home. We barely saved our family our instruments and our solar power. Our bus was gone.For the first time since my wife and I began our journey and adventure we were forced to get 'on the grid.' Going on 7 years now. I am about to go back to the buses- a Winnebago would be nice, but old veterans don't get much so buses look like it.Buses. Bio fuel. Wireless internet. Solar Power. Rock 'n Roll. Freedom rides again!Now that's my idea of a retirement community.Peace [ Post Comment ] Comment #55 posted by FoM on February 16, 2006 at 19:06:00 PT Hope Now I'm smiling. Life is short and time goes by so fast and much of life is truly out of our control. I have this way of thinking what will be will be. That doesn't mean I don't plan because I do but I just live in the moment and try to extract something from it. [ Post Comment ] Comment #54 posted by Hope on February 16, 2006 at 19:01:52 PT Well You've certainly got that.I'm smiling. [ Post Comment ] Comment #53 posted by FoM on February 16, 2006 at 18:58:43 PT Hope All I can do is try. I can't change one little thing that is happening in this world but I really want to do something to help in someway. That's important to me. Even if the only thing I do is make someone smile that's enough for me. [ Post Comment ] Comment #52 posted by Hope on February 16, 2006 at 18:53:40 PT FoM You answered a big calling. I'm pretty sure it wasn't an easy decision or road to take. And Woman! You have stuck with it. You are the meaning of perseverance.I'm glad you did and are. Thank you. [ Post Comment ] Comment #51 posted by Hope on February 16, 2006 at 18:49:47 PT Some time ago, Museman... posts here became so heavy and unbearable that she, FoM, was on the verge of quitting. We absolutley can't have her already heavy burden become unbearable for her.We have a mission...or at least I do... a "cunning plan" mentioned in an earlier post today ( Hi..fellow Black Adder fans.)...a lot of financial backing....LOL...no...that's not true!I know. I gave up my big "secret plan" earlier, right in front of God and everybody. I really don't mind if a Prohitionist knows what "the plan" is, but I don't like them to lie about me...or us.The basic plan, for most of us, I suspect, is to seek more compassion and freedom, for one and all.The so called "fringe" can alert you to where the "center" is. [ Post Comment ] Comment #50 posted by FoM on February 16, 2006 at 18:48:05 PT Hope You said some serious Spirit. How can I say this that it doesn't sound odd. I was prophesied over many years ago and I was told that something in my future was going to be very important to many people. The strange thing is I can only vaguely remember that night but I have been reminded of it by others since that time. I don't know but this could be it. [ Post Comment ] Comment #49 posted by Hope on February 16, 2006 at 18:36:11 PT Thank you, Museman... I'll be checkin it out.In the mean time...I'm thankful to FoM...she knows the deal...We do too. She's told us a thousand times. We believe her. I'm thankful that she's allowed us to speak of spiritual things, current events, and music to the extent she does. We have a little chapel in our hearts. We carry it with us always. There we worship. We are never alone there. There are always at least two of us in that chapel. Always.This injustice we speak out against is worth standing up to. It's heinous and it ruins and destroys people. Some Spirit has brought us all here. Some serious Spirit has set FoM on this course. It was very serious. Some serious stuff set me and all of us on this course and allowed us to meet here and help when we can and know instead of wondering what is going on in the travesty called the worldwide WoD. [ Post Comment ] Comment #48 posted by FoM on February 16, 2006 at 18:29:13 PT museman I think if you can develop a forum that is great for everyone. I know you aren't trying to take anything away from CNews. I am a firm believer that the only way to be successful is to let people go and experience all they want and then they share it when they come back here. If we don't try to corner people they will return because they won't feel threatened. I could die and then what? This is a movement not just one web site or person. [ Post Comment ] Comment #47 posted by FoM on February 16, 2006 at 18:23:53 PT museman Thank you for the very nice words. I'm still not exactly sure what your goal is but it is interesting. What actually is a Whole Earth Family Traveling Show? I don't think that deep. [ Post Comment ] Comment #46 posted by museman on February 16, 2006 at 18:23:52 PT Hope I see that you were on the same wavelength as I in #38. I have a discussion forum on wholeearthfamily-link below- and it might be a good place to start, since nobody is really using it. I don't check it very often, because as I said no one is using it. If I know it's being used then I'll stop by there more often. I'm not completely knowlegeable about it, but it works.You have to sign up, but there's no restrictions in place at this time, so you won't have to be verified. Since I am the 'moderator' of that post, I can tell you that if you don't want your email going into that database, make one up I don't care, should still work. At this point you could use the same user names as here, then we'd all know who was who.I feel that anybody here who would like to participate in a 'side' posting of some things that might be too detracting from CNews own intention and purpose, should be and are initially invited.I would like to stress that I DO NOT WISH TO DETRACT from CNews. I respect you all too much to jeopardize the relationship.I do want to discuss some of the not-directly-related issues with those who are similarly inclined. I'm 'playing it by ear.' "posting forum" [ Post Comment ] Comment #45 posted by FoM on February 16, 2006 at 18:11:35 PT Spoof of Hippie Retirement Community I wonder if I can buy the Bus! LOL!Hippie Retirement Homes Gaining Popularity *** Written by Morgan Truce Thursday 16 Feb 2006 The retirement home industry has been slow to accommodate the lifestyles of the senior citizens it services. A great many homes offer swing music with dinner and movie classics from the 1930’s and 1940’s. A steadily growing market segment is now gearing up for the millions of former hippies who are approaching their golden years.Many old hippies gave up their lifestyle years ago, but find themselves yearning for the carefree days they once enjoyed. Many haven’t smoked a joint or dropped acid since the Sixties, but some continue the old lifestyle to this day. Arriving in a retirement home with several cartons filled with tie-died shirts, well-worn sandals and bell-bottom jeans, and a small stash of ganja, these old hippies certainly do not want to hear Benny Goodman and eat mashed potatoes.At the Naturally Hip Retirement Home in an Atlanta suburb, old hippies are made to feel right at home with the morning yoga sessions, constant smell of marijuana in the hallways, organic style meals, hot tub orgies, and crash pads for their visiting friends.“This place is like so cool, man,” says one aging hippie. “It’s like having good flashbacks all day long. We just have a nice mellow time---no protest marches, no panhandling for spare change, and no having to deal with the man all the time.”Several retirement homes are offering free recreational drugs and even professional guides for LSD trips. Local law enforcement officials have taken a hands-off approach to such activities as long as the drugs stay in the retirement homes and do not spread into the local high schools.If you or someone you love are an old flower child approaching the golden years and want more information, please write to the International Association of Hippie Retirement Homes, Post Office Box 97305, San Francisco, CA. http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s2i7588&rating=3 [ Post Comment ] Comment #44 posted by museman on February 16, 2006 at 17:57:16 PT FoM-Hope You are holding some mighty candles there sisters. Hope, I really enjoyed #8 and #17. It is good to feel that the torch of liberty and truth is one burden that is not carried alone. Good to read and identify with the blazing hearts that are being revealed here.FoM, you do a wonderful job. I know that I couldn't do it, I haven't that kind of focus. Your patience is like a mother for her young, and I didn't mean Neil! [ Post Comment ] Comment #43 posted by Hope on February 16, 2006 at 17:52:33 PT Museman "a posting forum"...I'll be there to check it out.That's a great idea.Maybe a little paranoid...but who can blame you? [ Post Comment ] Comment #42 posted by museman on February 16, 2006 at 17:49:14 PT whig-Toker00 Whig: Good luck, and a smooth move. Just began the relationship here, lot's of conversations to have still, so I with everyone else here will look forward to your return.Hey I noticed today as I was driving on I-5 that they have wireless iternet access in the rest areas now. That may make it easier for the more mobile of us in the future.Toker00:I have wanted to get in this conversation about 'gatherings' what you are referring to as the 'Peace Church' and more along those lines as well, but I don't want to detract from CNews. I also am slightly concerned about security. I have the ability to set up a posting forum where some subjects could be discussed without compromising this forum for example.This is why I think it might be better that way;As long as we are dealing with subjects in a discussion forum like CNews for example, and we just discuss without planning some kind of action, then the only real problem is weeding out the 'trolls' (as was recently explained to me)but when we start making plans, those plans should not be made public, at least until they are ready to happen. Is my reasoning OK or am I just too paranoid?If you haven't already checked outsome of my ideas on this subject; a music-based idea [ Post Comment ] Comment #41 posted by Hope on February 16, 2006 at 17:39:33 PT Bob Dylan Sure. In my mental picture there a moment ago, I clearly saw Bob Dylan in the room.:0) [ Post Comment ] Comment #40 posted by FoM on February 16, 2006 at 17:06:52 PT Can We Invite Bob Dylan? I couldn't resist saying that since you mentioned a Beatnik Coffee House. I don't know how to look at life and situations without some concept of the why and how something occurs. I have wanted to know what more is there then what I see with my own eyes and hear with my own ears. I don't sit very quietly in a box. [ Post Comment ] Comment #39 posted by Hope on February 16, 2006 at 16:58:24 PT "Dr. Mikuriya, what a hero." Indeed. He is. [ Post Comment ] Comment #38 posted by Hope on February 16, 2006 at 16:56:59 PT God Stuff comes naturally to us. We are very spiritual. Many of us anyway. Some of us don't believe in something that seems supernatural and stupid to them. The unbelievers tolerate us usually very kindly...but they don't get it and they get exasperated at it. They just don't get too exasperated to often with those of us who have this spiritual thing going on. They are usually able to remain kind and patient. We ramble so in and out of everything here. It's a place to drink coffee and talk with my friends, brothers and sisters and some of the brightest people I've ever had the pleasure to know.Here at CNews, FoM's place, it feels more to me like a good cafe or coffee house. It used to feel like her kitchen...but that was quite some time ago. Certainly, God knows, I've consumed many a cup of coffee perusing these articles and comments. We talk a bit of God Stuff because that's the way some of us are. But we musn't unintentionally offend those who didn't come here for any sort of church. They are nice to us. We should be nice to them. C-News is an internet coffee house for activists against the modern prohibition. We just have to make our own coffee. We talk. We share so much. We bear up under a lot of weight together. We meet and share music and poetry and ideas while usually drinking coffee. We're considered by prohibitionist to be some sort of idiotic radicals. Yes. This feels like an old beatnik coffee house full of amazing people and not a few artists, preachers, teachers, politicos, and some "characters", it seems to me. I like the people I meet here. I grow as a person here.Sometimes we share spiritual stuff and our non spiritually inclined people are very tolerant of it. We should not make them feel like they stumbled into a church...but when we do share our spirituality...we need to be sensitive to what our original goal is. We are pursuing something and we...spiritual and not so spiritual or a completely different kind of spiritual are all in this together and we are all fighting what we see as injustice...together. We are about freedom. We are about liberty. We are trying to stop a destroying policy from destroying any more. Some of us are spiritual. Some are not. Let's don't overwhelm them.:0)(I love the spiritual stuff, too. It's all spiritual to me. Even when our beliefs in God aren't mentioned directly.) [ Post Comment ] Comment #37 posted by Sam Adams on February 16, 2006 at 16:34:37 PT Mississippi Just a note - the UMiss guy says he can produce cannabis which can be extracted to 40% THC - that means NOTHING! The cannabis that he mails to patients is 1-2% THC. An extract is completely irrelevant! Is he going to extract it for them? No! So why mention it? The patients are mailed pre-rolled joints of roadside ditchweed. That is what the federal goverment gives them.Speaking of extracts - is he referring to the pre-Prohibition cannabis extract tincture, which along with opium were the 2 most prescribed medicines in the good ol' USA in the 1800's??? I guess the 1800's were just a period of mass insanity, with doctors and sick people around the world "duped" into thinking that cannabis was helping them.ekim thanks for posting that article. Good luck to Dr. Mikuriya, what a hero. 10 years later, we can see that Prop 215 was absolutely critical to advancing drug policy reform in the USA. Just ask yourself where the cannabis-reform cause would be right now if not for Prop. 215. These people convinced those with deep pockets that referendums are the path to victory. Would Canada have passed medical MJ without Prop 215? I doubt it. [ Post Comment ] Comment #36 posted by Hope on February 16, 2006 at 16:32:53 PT "You shine a really cool Bright Light". What Toker00 says is very, very true. [ Post Comment ] Comment #35 posted by Toker00 on February 16, 2006 at 16:25:08 PT Whig Sorry this move is weighing so heavy, bro. I have missed your posts and meticulous insight. Where ever you wind up, the place will be better off. You shine a really cool Bright Light.If you could imagine moving every eighteen MONTHS, you can imagine what I did for twenty years. HA! That's gotta be close to a record. Sounds like this move will be the one where you guys might stay for a while and make a home. I sure hope what you find will make you content, if not immediately, shortly there after. Please let us know if we can do or say anything that might help. And about the Peace Church. We may just be the beginning of the Church you and we long for. There are people observing this fellowship we are forming here. It will spread. How far? No idea. But I will tell you this. YOU are one of our brightest beacons, and I hope you share with us more of what's inside your head. (And heart)gw, this goes for you, too. And, I think runruff would agree.Wage peace on war. END CANNABIS PROHIBITION NOW! [ Post Comment ] Comment #34 posted by global_warming on February 16, 2006 at 15:47:19 PT sleep tight that little bit of Lightmay creep into your 'dreams,you catch a glimpse,twinkle,in the blink of your eye,you may see, and may begin to take this burden,a sack of 'shit, that has always been on 'our backs,a sack of filthy shit,that belongs on backs,of those filthy and nasty 'prohibitionists,a filthy sack that lawyers and judges,'will carry into this 'infinite justice,you can say, I believe in God,yet, your hand is clenched in rage,you can, in 'one blink,just some 'twinkle, from the side of your eye,remember, how you "love,and some 'greener pasture,where 'you might meet that 'Love,that can fill your 'Life,that can fill your 'Eternity,Forever, 'We, shall be the 'children of God,Forever, 'We shall 'witness,The discovery, and 'our place,Next to God,In front of 'the mystery,That Mystery,That 'Holds,Our Most beloved,That 'Promises,RedemptionFreedomEverlasting PeaceFor 'Every God Loving Soul. [ Post Comment ] Comment #33 posted by global_warming on February 16, 2006 at 15:10:30 PT he might have a joint in his hand,then are 'what 'you to do,can YOU arrest GOD? [ Post Comment ] Comment #32 posted by global_warming on February 16, 2006 at 15:03:09 PT whigger Good Luck in 'your move.The 'news may be a bit slow, but that 'fire from RI is spreading throught this land 'called the north east, pretty soon, even the dumbest ass, will stop to see, that 'carpenter ride into town on the back of an ass. [ Post Comment ] Comment #31 posted by Hope on February 16, 2006 at 15:00:18 PT "Waiting for the Next Explosion" Jimmy Buffet ...."Such a dangerous world." [ Post Comment ] Comment #30 posted by FoM on February 16, 2006 at 14:05:36 PT Hope Enjoy your space today. It's a good thing. [ Post Comment ] Comment #29 posted by Hope on February 16, 2006 at 13:56:06 PT I love it...music...like they are here... and the space around me is mine today....a relative rarity.The "they" in the subject line is musicians, singers, and dancers. It wouldn't fit. [ Post Comment ] Comment #28 posted by FoM on February 16, 2006 at 13:51:37 PT Hope Have fun! Music is good for us. I listen to music for a number of hours everyday. I think music can help us with stress. I think music is healing. [ Post Comment ] Comment #27 posted by Hope on February 16, 2006 at 13:40:37 PT (whisper) I was just listening to Billy Ray Sirus of all people! He must have set off my giddiness. "Achy Breaky Heart". I've got to cruise for some tunes. [ Post Comment ] Comment #26 posted by Hope on February 16, 2006 at 13:35:15 PT Ok :0) [ Post Comment ] Comment #25 posted by FoM on February 16, 2006 at 13:33:26 PT Hope I don't have a deleting machine! LOL! [ Post Comment ] Comment #24 posted by Hope on February 16, 2006 at 13:31:36 PT conserb? Whoops!You can run your deleting machine now, FoM. [ Post Comment ] Comment #23 posted by FoM on February 16, 2006 at 13:31:16 PT Hope Wow! What a statement. I know exactly where you are coming from. [ Post Comment ] Comment #22 posted by Hope on February 16, 2006 at 13:29:26 PT In fact. Nearly giddy.I am glad. Even if they kill me...that I said what I thought...and most of all...maybe...that I'm glad I ever even thought about it. Prohibitionists aren't thinking deeply enough into what they are responsible for. [ Post Comment ] Comment #21 posted by Hope on February 16, 2006 at 13:26:45 PT Dang Maybe I'm unconciously adding exclamation marks. My worry and concerb is very "great".But comment 14 is truly "great". I'm so happy about it. [ Post Comment ] Comment #20 posted by Hope on February 16, 2006 at 13:23:26 PT comment 5 duhsorryjust wrote thatCould be a bit verklempt here. [ Post Comment ] Comment #19 posted by Hope on February 16, 2006 at 13:22:17 PT Fourteen....Comment 14 is what I meant to say. I don't know where that five came from. Sorry...I don't even remember what comment five is...guess I'll have to check it out. Maybe I'm reminding myself. [ Post Comment ] Comment #18 posted by Hope on February 16, 2006 at 13:20:42 PT Comment 5 Oh my! That so great! [ Post Comment ] Comment #17 posted by Hope on February 16, 2006 at 13:18:42 PT Whig "I don't know what we'll do when we get there?"First things first, Whig. Park. Oh and when you pack...don't forget to get your computer out first.I can see a desk against a wall. First thing in, along with all the computer stuff. Computer on. Sit down a minute. Boot up. Contact us. Tell your wife that you love her and...wing it from there!Let us know you arrived ok. That's something...that pray God...won't change anytime soon. Someone will be here or show up eventually. That, FoM, I think is what makes this place so amazing. You!Like a Balm. Cannabis News is a balm to the hearts of those of us troubled by the spawn of the WoD.This is a bloody place, Cannabis News. We've seen lots of death and destruction go into the archives. I can just imagine prohibs that might wander in here, saying "I've never seen so many bleeding hearts in one place."That just might be right. But if you come in here and you keep reading with us and you get to know us and who we are and what we are doing and how we are doing it, you will, eventually begin to understand us...hopefully. When you begin to understand us...and we are real people and we vote and we think and we stick our necks out when it seems someone has to do something, anything. We are as real as cornbread and butter. We are as serious as death. If you begin to understand us...truly...not what you imagine us to be but what you know we really are...you will begin to forgive us by letting go irrationality that kept you from understanding...and when you forgive us you love us...and love conquers all. "To understand is to forgive. To forgive is to understand." I know we don't need "forgiving"...like being forgiven for a wrong...it's an imagined wrong in this case. But, I think a lot of forgiving comes with the truth and understanding. Those feelings of forgiving us, and themselves, for what they imagined us to be.Eventually, if they can bear it, they must realize what is really happening to people because of their efforts. They should be ashamed and if they really want to help their brothers and sisters, their fellow man...they will turn their backs on supporting prohibition and all that it brings... I think.That's my "cunning plan", anyway. Spread the truth and reality. Be patient. I've been patient so long...I ought to change my monkier to Patience. I don't expect a thing to happen. How patient is that? [ Post Comment ] Comment #16 posted by FoM on February 16, 2006 at 13:10:55 PT New Mexico MEDICAL MARIJUANA MAKES IT THROUGH COMMITTEE Blog by Legislature 2006: Steve Terrell February 16, 2006 SB258 made it through the House Judiciary Committee -- at 3:45 a.m. accordng to a report by Kate Nash at the Tribune, who apprently stuck it out through the wee hours at the Roundhouse. (I called it a night or an early morning or whatever it was before 2 a.m.)Citizens of New Mexico should rejoice that some of the most important decisions affecting the state are being made at 3:45 a.m. by lawmakers who have been at it for 17 hours or more straight.In fact time limits probably should have been part of my list of changes I'd make if I ran the Legislature. See this week's Roundhouse Round-up column.It's over in 3 hours and 54 minutes ... http://www.freenewmexican.com/blog9707/39567.html [ Post Comment ] Comment #15 posted by FoM on February 16, 2006 at 13:05:27 PT Taylor121 Thanks! I'll keep my eyes opened for an article. [ Post Comment ] Comment #14 posted by Taylor121 on February 16, 2006 at 13:01:13 PT New Mexico Medical Marijuana Moves Forward Your calls and emails have been heard! In a dramatic turn of events, our medical marijuana bill was moved out of the committee that tabled it, passed the House Judiciary, and is now waiting to be considered for a House floor vote. The New Mexico legislative session ends today, so we'll know soon whether it makes it to the Governor for approval. Stay tuned!http://www.drugpolicy.org/homepage.cfm http://blogs.scripps.com/albq/state/2006/02/work_and_play.html [ Post Comment ] Comment #13 posted by FoM on February 16, 2006 at 12:59:15 PT Graehstone I can think of one more that is important too. Faith, Hope and Charity. [ Post Comment ] Comment #12 posted by FoM on February 16, 2006 at 12:54:23 PT Hope I know what you mean. [ Post Comment ] Comment #11 posted by Graehstone on February 16, 2006 at 12:52:56 PT Two words I think it all just boils down to two words and they are "Faith" and "Hope." Throughout all of History every battle ever fought was done so with Faith, every struggle accompanied by Hope, every Religion is based on Faith and Hope. Without Faith and Hope we would truely be lost. [ Post Comment ] Comment #10 posted by Hope on February 16, 2006 at 12:51:49 PT This is how I see it. And it dang sure doesn't look like I'm imagining it. [ Post Comment ] Comment #9 posted by Hope on February 16, 2006 at 12:50:43 PT "to "stomp your ass""...... I know you guys. I know all of us. You don't want to run from that because you know it's important and worth the risk. People are suffering piteously. Bullies need to be stood up too. But believe me, "They" are entirely capable of "stomping ass" in many ways, shapes, and form. If you, like FoM and I, and all the rest of us, must risk it...please make sure, if you that if you should ultimately "get stomped", that they can't hurt your children.The fact that these same people who approve of the treatment of people under the present drug policies, would likely turn their parents and grandparents if they had lived during Hitler's regime and had had the opportunity.That's what we are dealing with. Be sure. Be careful. [ Post Comment ] Comment #8 posted by Hope on February 16, 2006 at 12:42:11 PT It feels like stepping against a firing squad wall.This isn't for fun and entertainment.It's stepping out. It's putting your own neck on the line, because something in what your are, tells you that it is important. I have to do it.Parents and guardians of children should not do this. If you choose to anyway, because of your outrage...you must be "pure" as the driven snow and more "cunning" than you ever imagined you would have to be. Someone want's to "stomp your ass". You've got more important things to do than get your ass stomped in any way, shape, form, or fashion. The need from the little people for you, outweighs many times what you would personally like to do. So if you do choose to speak out. Don't grow. Don't hold. Don't sell or deliver. Don't smoke unless someone graciously hands you an opportunity. They hate you. They hate you so much that they will terrorize and abuse and even kill your children and remove them from your custody...if not your life...if they so choose. It's important to be wise for your baby's sake. Be as selfless as you've ever been in your life.Of course it's for your children's future, too. In the word of that Eagles guy...Don Henley..."How bad do you want it?" [ Post Comment ] Comment #7 posted by FoM on February 16, 2006 at 12:35:38 PT Hope We all received a very nice compliment the other day from a person I respect. He said that we are always stable and when those that oppose us read what we say here that we really are good people who care. They basically can't help but see. [ Post Comment ] Comment #6 posted by Hope on February 16, 2006 at 12:30:52 PT FoM and Hope Very dangerous women. I've been expecting them ever since I first typed a word about my feelings about on the very public, very available internet.I hope they don't kill me.Or FoM.You know....."Shut us down". We talk "too much".*sigh* and *groan*And we are paying for it to happen, too. I don't mind the money spent to catch child pornographers. I mind this. [ Post Comment ] Comment #5 posted by Hope on February 16, 2006 at 12:26:20 PT FoM You're right. I worry too much when someone doesn't post in a long long while...but you're right. Much as I am worried, I try to stay calm. I want to ask sometimes to let them know...if possible that I care about them and miss them and their comments. Other than a personal tendency to imagine the worst and worry...which leads to prayer...and sometimes I don't worry at all and just pray. I should skip that worry part more often.Anyway. You're right and I must remember to stop asking too.Dang. We really are in danger. [ Post Comment ] Comment #4 posted by FoM on February 16, 2006 at 12:22:57 PT whig The one and only Berkeley! Wow! [ Post Comment ] Comment #3 posted by FoM on February 16, 2006 at 12:16:11 PT whig I've been thinking about you alot. I don't generally say anything when someone is missing because I respect people's privacy. Right now with all this stuff going on different web sites we have run into a big lull. This stuff really hurts people and slows us up for a while. Hopefully we will have an outcome of it all soon and we can get back to work. [ Post Comment ] Comment #2 posted by whig on February 16, 2006 at 12:11:58 PT OT: Hello This isn't a reply to the current topic.Just letting my friends here know I'm still ok. I think I'm a little depressed right now, but not sure exactly why, so I need some time to figure out what's up. Maybe it's that we're moving soon and I don't know where we're going yet, and I'm already missing my friends who I haven't even gotten to see in a while.... We're either going to be in New Haven or Berkeley though, and I won't know which for another month or so probably and I don't know what I'm going to do when we get there. [ Post Comment ] Comment #1 posted by ekim on February 16, 2006 at 11:15:42 PT Author: Fred Gardner Dr Mikuriya's Appeal US CA: Column: Dr Mikuriya's AppealURL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v06/n200/a02.html Newshawk: http://www.drugsense.org/donate.htm Votes: 0 Pubdate: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 Source: Anderson Valley Advertiser (CA) Column: Cannabinotes Copyright: 2006 Anderson Valley Advertiser Contact: editor theava.com Website: http://www.theava.com/ Details: http://www.mapinc.org/media/2667 Author: Fred Gardner Bookmark: http://www.mapinc.org/find?115 (Cannabis - California) Bookmark: http://www.mapinc.org/mmj.htm (Cannabis - Medicinal) Bookmark: http://www.mapinc.org/people/Mikuriya (Tod Mikuriya, MD)DR MIKURIYA'S APPEAL - -A Last-Minute Twist Led by doctors who learned nothing about cannabis in medical school and never employed it in clinical practice, the Medical Board of California decided in April 2004 to discipline the state's leading authority on the subject. Tod Mikuriya, MD, was put on probation for five years, subjected to supervision by a "practice monitor," and fined $75,000 for the cost of his own prosecution. Instead of accepting the punishment, Mikuriya, 74, a Berkeley-based psychiatrist, has gone to great expense to appeal in Superior Court. "It's the principle of the thing," he says without irony. The lawyer now handling Mikuriya's appeal, Scott Candell, expected to get a ruling Feb. 10 from Sacramento Superior Court Judge Judy Holzer Hersher. On the eve of the ruling Candell said he was hopeful, not just because the Board's punishment of Mikuriya seemed outrageous as he reviewed the record, but because he had drawn a judge with a pro-patient perspective. Literally -it was Holzer Hersher who upheld the one-nurse-to-five-patient staffing ratio last year when Gov. Schwarzenegger, on behalf of California hospital owners, was pushing for one-to-six. It would be hard to overstate the importance of Mikuriya's contributions to the modern medical marijuana movement. The millions of Americans who smoked marijuana in social settings in the '60s and '70s and '80s knew virtually nothing about its history as medicine. In 1971 -as doctors who had actually prescribed cannabis-based tinctures were retiring and Prohibition was extinguishing knowledge on the subject- Mikuriya compiled and published an anthology of articles from the pre-prohibition medical literature. He kept the flame of scholarship flickering through the dark ages; and when interest was rekindled in the wake of the AIDS epidemic ( marijuana enabled patients to eat and fend off nausea ), it was to Mikuriya that Dennis Peron and other activists turned for education and advice. In the early 1990s Mikuriya interviewed hundreds of patients from Peron's San Francisco buyers club and began expanding the list of conditions reportedly treatable with cannabis. He encouraged Peron to add the all-important phrase "... any other condition for which marijuana provides relief" to the first sentence of Proposition 215. After it passed in November '96, Mikuriya was one of very few doctors in the state known to approve cannabis use by patients with conditions other than AIDS or cancer. He successfully urged the California Medical Association, which had opposed Prop 215, to recognize the mounting evidence as to safety and efficacy and to publish practice guidelines for doctors issuing approvals to patients. To the law-enforcement establishment that had fiercely opposed Prop 215, Mikuriya was seen as public enemy number two. ( They hate Peron even more. ) In December, 1996 -after urgent strategy sessions in Washington with California Attorney General Dan Lungren- Drug Czar Barry McCaffrey and other federal officials attacked Mikuriya by name at a press conference and threatened to revoke the prescription-writing privileges of any California doctor who approved cannabis use by patients. This threat was ruled illegal by a federal judge in the Spring of '97 following a suit by UCSF AIDS specialist Marcus Conant, MD. The Conant ruling was a great victory for the movement, encouraging more doctors to approve cannabis use. To the prohibitionists its implications were tactical: with the feds enjoined, it would be up to Lungren and the state medical board to punish Mikuriya and any other pro-cannabis doctors who appeared on the horizon. ( It is widely assumed that whereas the feds oppose the medical use of marijuana, California officials have supported it. Not true. There has been a division of prosecutorial labor, with the feds leaving it to the state to keep the docs intimidated. ) The investigation of Mikuriya went on for years. The AG's office elicited complaints against him from police, sheriffs and district attorneys in at least 11 counties, and sent an operative feigning symptoms to see him as a patient. "The investigation was fraudulent," says Mikuriya. "It was a round-up of accusations from law enforcement without any attempt to check their validity. No patients were ever questioned, no family members or caregivers were ever questioned, no attempt was made to determine if harm had ever occurred to a patient as a result of the treatment I authorized. It was an investigation in name only." At a hearing in September, 2003, the AG relied on an expert witness who had never issued a medical-marijuana approval. An administrative law judge duly determined that Mikuriya had "approved the use of a controlled substance without conducting a prior good faith examination, and failed to maintain adequate and accurate medical records in the care and treatment of 16 patients." None of the 16 patients had complained about Mikuriya; in fact, all expressed gratitude for his treatment. All the complaints had come from law enforcement and none alleged harm to a patient. Nevertheless, the medical board put Mikuriya on probation and levied the $75,000 fine. Arguments in Candell's appeal brief on behalf of Mikuriya include: * Dr. Mikuriya's speech is protected by the First Amendment, i.e. his prosecution by the state Attorney General represents an end-run around the Conant injunction. * The qualified immunity granted doctors by Prop 215 prohibits the imposition of discipline against Dr. Mikuriya under the facts of the case. * Dr. Mikuriya followed the acceptable standard of care for a medical marijuana consultant. * Dr. Mikuriya did not prescribe, dispense, or furnish marijuana. * Marijuana is not a dangerous drug as defined by the Business and Professions code. Candell recounted these arguments in a media advisory the day before the ruling was due from Holzer Hersher. So imagine his surprise ( and Dr. Mikuriya's ) when he arrived in court on the morning of Friday, Feb. 10, and learned that the case had been transferred from the humane Judge Judy to a Republican hack named Jack Sapunor. A presiding judge newly installed in January, Roland Candee, had made the switcheroo and nobody had informed Candell. One knew the minute one walked into Sapunor's courtroom that Mikuriya didn't have a chance. The class system in this country is now so imposing that people are generally identifiable -they signal their relationship to the system itself-by looks, attire, bearing, etc. Both standing within and attitude towards the system can be inferred from appearance. Judge Sapunor looked like a mean white man devoted to the status quo: every hair in place, tie too tight, black robe too tight, smiling prissily and showing elaborate verbal courtesy to the party he was in the process of fucking... And so, indeed, he listened politely as Mikuriya's earnest young attorney framed the issues, then ruled for the prosecution on all but one minor point ( which won't affect Mikuriya's punishment and serves to create a false impression of equity ). It could have been Mark Tansil in Sonoma railroading Alan Martinez, or Eric DuTemple in Sonora sitting in judgment on Robert Hemstalk. The state is filled with these heartless political clones appointed by governors who opposed Prop 215. Most owe their appointments to Gov. Pete Wilson, who vetoed medical marijuana measures that had passed the state legislature in 1994 and '95. Now, in a sense, his operatives are vetoing Prop 215. Mikuriya must decide whether to take his case to the court of appeal. His statement to C Notes: "I continue to hope that my case will expose the conspiracy between California and federal officials to block the implementation of Prop 215. No sooner had the state law been passed by the voters than Attorney General Lungren and associates went to Washington to discuss with leaders of the Drug Czar's office, the DEA, and the Department of Justice scenarios for sabotaging it. On December 30, 1996, I was attacked by name at a press conference by Gen. Barry McCaffrey and Janet Reno, and California doctors were threatened with reprisals if they approved cannabis use by patients. In response, California doctors and patients filed a suit -Conant et al vs. McCaffrey- and got an injunction preventing the feds from carrying out their unconstitutional threats. This left it up to the state to keep California doctors intimated, and the medical board and the attorney general's office have done so effectively by disciplining me and by investigating more than 12 other California doctors for issuing cannabis approvals." Mikuriya's appeal briefs and other documents related to the case can be read at http://althealthsys.net/medicolegal.html. Contributions to his cause can be made out to CCRMG ( which stands for California Cannabis Research Medical Group ) and sent to p.o. box 9143, Berkeley, CA 94709. The CCRMG is a 501©3 non-profit. Afterthought: The suit establishing the right of doctors and patients to discuss marijuana as a treatment option could have been filed as Mikuriya v. McCaffrey -it was Dr. Mikuriya, after all, that the Drug Czar had attacked-but the key organizer, Dan Abrahamson of the Drug Policy Alliance, decided that Marcus Conant would make a better lead plaintiff. Conant's name invoked the AIDS epidemic and he had good standing within the medical establishment... On the other hand, Mikuriya needed the protection in real time: a stream of Californians whose regular doctors were unwilling to approve their cannabis use - -or who were unwilling to even ask their doctors-were consulting him every day. Perhaps if the protective federal injunction had been granted in a landmark case called Mikuriya v. McCaffrey, the state medical board would have been reluctant to prosecute the lead plaintiff lest the prosecution be seen by the public as an end-run around the injunction, and/or payback. Here's another what-if: had Dennis Peron heeded Abrahamson's faction instead of Tod Mikuriya, Prop 215 would have referred to a finite list of grave medical conditions and a much smaller set of Californians would have qualified for its protection... Speaking of mean white men, Rep. Dennis Hastert has now lost all definition. The head, the jowls, the shoulders, the gut, all have slid into a big pile of glowering MWM. http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews [ Post Comment ] Post Comment