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Patients Worry About County's Challenge
Posted by CN Staff on February 04, 2006 at 06:35:43 PT
By Gig Conaughton, Staff Writer 
Source: North County Times
California -- The deep furrows in Craig McClain's brow slowly ease as he feels the first effects of the marijuana smoke he has just inhaled. His pain-wracked body relaxes, as he sits gingerly on the special bed in his Vista home."I'm already feeling better," McClain, a Vista business owner, husband, father, and spinal-cord injury victim, said this week. "Just after a couple of hits. I can take just a couple of hits and feel my spinal cord relax.
"I don't know why they (the federal government) can say there is no merit to marijuana," he said. "So many doctors know it. But yet, the federal government doesn't want to recognize it."McClain is just one of several seriously ill or disabled residents who have pleaded with San Diego County supervisors to withdraw the lawsuit they have filed to try to overturn California's medical marijuana law, on the ground it should be pre-empted by federal law which says that all marijuana use is illegal.Since voters approved the "Compassionate Use Act" in 1996, California law has said it is legal for people such as McClain to use marijuana as medicine.But San Diego County supervisors, asked late last year to create a medical marijuana identification card and registry system to support the 9-year-old law, instead decided to sue the state to try to overturn it. The suit, which was switched this week from federal to state courts and has not yet had its first hearing, is the first to try to overturn any of the medical marijuana laws that voters have approved in 11 states.People who have opposed the idea of medical marijuana have worried that it would increase abuse of the drug, tell children that drug use is "OK," and give "potheads" with imagined illnesses a legal route to use an illegal drug.Pain is EvidentOne look is all it takes to recognize that Craig McClain is in constant, unrelenting pain.His spine crushed by falling steel girders in a construction-related accident in 1990, McClain stands these days with the help of a cane and brace for his left leg, bent stiffly at the waist ---- where inside his back, six long screws hold his spinal cord together.Early this week, arriving home after his morning physical therapy ---- where a therapist applied acupressure in his spinal area to try to reduce the twisting that now naturally occurs around his injured spine ---- McClain inched his way from his car into his home, groaning openly with each movement.The X-rays he gingerly held up to the light showed the six screws, along with a pump that delivers drugs into his system to help combat the pain and spasms he continually battles.When the accident happened, McClain said, doctors told him he would never walk again, and that his working days were over. But today he owns his own store, the "Old Toy Soldier Home" in Vista, where he sells figurines that he has hand-painted, a hobby he turned into a new life after his accident.In the early days of his injury, McClain and his doctors discovered that he was allergic to many of the traditional pain relievers, including morphine."That's why I have to wear this medical alert medallion," he said. "I can die if I go into a hospital and they give me morphine or Dilaudid. Vicodin, codeine ... I'm allergic to all of those."'Medical' MarijuanaTwo years after his accident, when his spasms ---- which have sent McClain into hospitals twitching uncontrollably and curling into a fetal position ---- had gotten to the point he could barely function, a Stanford doctor suggested he try marijuana.It was 1992, four years before Prop. 215 made "medical" marijuana legal in California."I thought he was joking with me," McClain said. "Because, you know, that's a party thing. I had never thought of it in terms of a medicine."Seeking a legal alternative, McClain first tried Marinol, a synthetically created form of tetrahydrocannibinol ---- THC, the active ingredient in marijuana.Ironically, the federal government says that synthetic marijuana is a legal drug with recognized medicinal value ---- but says that grown marijuana is a Schedule 1 drug, without medicinal value and on par with heroin, LSD and mescaline.But McClain and others say the synthetic drug is extremely unreliable ---- although he still uses it at night ---- sometimes taking hours to take effect, sometimes never taking effect.Eventually, McClain ended up at the Cannabis Cultivators Club in San Francisco, the first marijuana "dispensary" in California.He said that since he started smoking it, marijuana has helped him control his wracked body."If I don't have pot, then I go into severe spasmodic attacks," he said. "And they're extreme ---- to where I have to go to the hospital to get it under control. Sometimes these attacks last for five hours. Sometimes they can be 10 days. If I burn a joint, then it will relax enough to where possibly I get a hold of the situation."He became an advocate when Prop. 215 was placed on the ballot in 1996, collecting signatures and speaking before state legislators.When Prop. 215 passed with 55 percent of the vote, McClain said he felt safe. That, he said, has disappeared with the county's decision to try to overturn the measure."When Prop. 215 went through, I said, 'Oh, thank God. Now I'm just a regular person again. I'm not a criminal,'" McClain said. "The safety thing was being OK in my state. Now I don't believe there's any safety."He said he smokes marijuana ---- "a couple of hits off a joint" ---- sporadically during his day. Often, he does so before the physical therapy that he attends five days a week, sometimes during the day, and always before he tries to sleep. McClain said taking Marinol, smoking "part of a joint," and taking Xanax, an anti-anxiety drug, he gets three to five hours of sleep a night.McClain said coming forward to speak out again about his marijuana use ---- he took part in a protest of the county's Prop. 215 lawsuit and testified before county supervisors last month ---- was not easy. He has a business, a wife and son to protect.He said he feared that his 12-year-old son, who attends a Lutheran school and belongs to a Mormon Boy Scout troop, could take "flak" from outsiders. He said he doesn't smoke around his son, and that he and his wife have explained that the marijuana he smokes is medicine.But he said the county's lawsuit left him no choice. He had to speak out."I thought after this long a time, the controversy over this thing (medical marijuana) would have gone away," he said. "It's a step backward."Other PatientsLike McClain, La Mesa resident Rudy Reyes has pain that is all too evident.Reyes, 28, was burned over 75 percent of his body, including nearly all of his upper body, during the October 2003 Cedar fire that killed 14 people in San Diego County. Reyes said last week that he spent eight months, two in a drug-induced coma, in a hospital after the fires.Like McClain, Reyes said his body also rejected morphine, and that his doctors tried several different kinds of drugs to help ease his constant pain. Some of the drugs had terrible side effects.Then, one day, Reyes said, a doctor asked if he had ever tried marijuana. He said no. The doctor, he said, suggested that he have his friends bring in some "special" food with marijuana in it."And they started bringing me in the cookies and the brownies," he said.In two weeks, Reyes said, the doctors told him they saw improvement in his condition ---- that his muscles were contracting less and that his blood pressure had dropped ---- helping his torched body recover.Now out of the hospital, Reyes said he no longer eats marijuana, but uses it as a cream to spread on his wounded body.Reyes said the burns exposed the nerves on his skin, leaving him with a "constant throb and itch that never goes away."The marijuana tincture, he said, eases his problems. If he didn't have it, he would probably be put back on such as Oxycontin or Vicodin ---- strong drugs with side effects" I use it as a cream," he said. "I don't smoke it. I don't use it that way."A Dying PatientSan Diego resident Pamela Sakuda is dying. Sakuda was diagnosed with terminal colorectal cancer three years ago, and was given six to 14 months to live, she said last week.Despite the terminal prognosis, Sakuda said she wanted to fight her illness, to stay alive as long as she could. That has entailed a continuous barrage of chemotherapy, a treatment that basically consists of having patients drink down anti-cancer poisons in an effort to kill off cancer cells, without killing the patient.Sakuda said the result was nausea, vomiting and a diminished appetite, all of which threatened to leave her so weak she could no longer take chemotherapy treatment.She said she uses marijuana, inhaling it through a vaporizer, or sometimes eating it, to stimulate her appetite and soothe her nausea.She said the drug has helped keep her alive and spared her husband, her caregiver, emotional pain."I don't think people like me, who are suffering from an illness, should be in jeopardy of being put in jail," she said. "The people of California voted for this ... it was an act of compassion."Complete Title: Patients Worry About County's Challenge To Compassionate Use ActSource: North County Times (CA)Author: Gig Conaughton, Staff Writer Published: February 3, 2006 Copyright: 2006 North County Times Contact: letters nctimes.comWebsite: http://www.nctimes.com/       Related Articles: Critics Decry Stone's Call for Medical Pot Suithttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread21559.shtmlCounty Moves Marijuana Challenge To State Courthttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread21558.shtml
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Comment #94 posted by Hope on February 06, 2006 at 07:18:21 PT
Herbdoc215
I'm so glad you are back in the country, Steve. You are already helping so many people. I'm glad you and Lucy Mae are back together again. 
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Comment #93 posted by FoM on February 05, 2006 at 22:13:22 PT
BGreen 
I'm so glad it worked. Nero is a good program. I remembered you helped me upgrade mine after I got this computer. It has been a fun program to learn. 
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Comment #92 posted by BGreen on February 05, 2006 at 22:05:04 PT
Thanks, FoM
It was really easy, just drag-and-drop the file and Nero did the rest.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #91 posted by FoM on February 05, 2006 at 20:10:30 PT
BGreen
Let me see if I can explain. First I right clicked and download the wmv off of this link. Then with Nero I went to MAKE VIDEO CD. Then ADD VIDEO FILES then from there just keep working with it until you see it and download. It went easy for me doing it this way. It plays on my DVD Recorder and plays on my computer. If your DVD player doesn't play a VCD it might only work on your computer. Let me know if this helps.http://www.terryhubbard.com/Let/let.htm
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Comment #90 posted by BGreen on February 05, 2006 at 19:29:47 PT
FoM
How did you make the VCD?I'd like to do it, but I'd rather you tell me how you did it than me spending time trying to figure it out.I've got Nero if that's what you used.Thanks!The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #89 posted by herbdoc215 on February 05, 2006 at 16:43:17 PT
Hope, not home yet...still in Bay area
Hope, not home yet...still in Bay areaseeking help and advice for a couple of our dear friends ;> Should be home by monday nite i hope as Lucy Mae don't like me gone too long anymore and she still owes me over 600 nites cuddling me!!! I can't sleep worth a crap since getting out of jail though cause I KNOW what my friends are suffering thru right this minute...looks like a bunch of patients are locked up and I ain't quitting this fit I've been throwing until they are at least provided thc pills and a real lawyer....hell it seems the least I/we can do? I just wish I had the loot to fly myself to Mass to show Jerry he isn't alone either....soon though plus I'm sending up people to see him asap, as there are a shitpot of us spread all over usa...I got friends in low places!!! Peace, Steve Tuck  
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Comment #88 posted by FoM on February 05, 2006 at 14:42:57 PT
museman
It sounds good. One of the things that is so hard for me is not to be able to do more then I do but I also know that by staying focussed on CNews and everyone who comments here that I won't get overloaded and that way I am open to what is next easier. I'm sure you can relate to that.
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Comment #87 posted by museman on February 05, 2006 at 14:37:25 PT
FoM
Definitely, kind of a loose similarity to those 'hemp in colonial time' scenes- at least as far as the 'dramatic representations' go. And of course actual documentation where we can get it. The roots to the issue are pretty deep, so there really is so much that can be said, and covered, there's just not room enough on one video or 2 for that matter- which is why I pointed out the "First in a video series" promise in the opening credits to Jerry some time ago. Since our intent is not to make Hollywood history or a 
'saleable product' our conditions are limited only to what we come up with. It's an idea that will probably come about in the months ahead.I have to watch what I commit myself to, take everything slow and easy. I have so many projects going on at various levels of completion, I overwhelm myself sometimes.Other folks ideas help tremendously though, so I'll take any discussion on ideas; little known facts and stories, stuff that is illuminating truths and solutions.I can imagine a scene where W.R.Hearst, Ronald Reagan, (then president of the MCA), the president of J.P Lily Drug (whom for some reason I believe was George Bush Sr.), and Harry James Anslinger are all gathered to discuss their plans for convincing congress to make pot illegal.Jerry would have a ball writing the dialogue for that!
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Comment #86 posted by museman on February 05, 2006 at 14:18:26 PT
Hope
I believe there was a distinct possibility of early parole to house arrest after six months. I seem to remember that from past conversations with Jerry. Besides the fact that he nor anyone else should ever have to suffer that kind of ignorant twisted 'justice' and any amount of time in the dungeons of King George is a crime against man and God, Jerry's health is the main concern. He should be at home. PERIODThanks again to herbdoc for getting the ball rolling on his appeal.
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Comment #85 posted by FoM on February 05, 2006 at 14:13:31 PT
museman
 How about something from an historic viewpoint? What I mean is from a cultural perspective. Looking at the drug war thru rose colored glasses type movie. Why we are in this mess type movie. Just an idea.
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Comment #84 posted by museman on February 05, 2006 at 14:12:55 PT
Hope
Jerry and Linda opted to come up with the air fare to get Jerry safely to the hospital. If he had waited for federal transport they would have done just that-transported him from one holding facility to another taking up to six months before he actually made it to the hospital. Jerry's health couldn't stand that. When this was made known to the local DA ,and the judge, I believe their answer was snide and predictable- you can just guess- I have no direct quotes. They didn't care one whit for Jerry's safety or well being. So out of real concern, as I said they bought the plane ticket, and Jerry is actually still under his own power at this time, his own limited resources, to get him to prison.The travesty is just mind boggling.
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Comment #83 posted by Hope on February 05, 2006 at 14:12:09 PT
Does anyone know...
if Runruff's sentence is one of those that could be cut in half by good behavior or perhaps early release...even without appeals...which I want for sure for him anyway...but does anyone know if it's one of those situations were he's not actually expected to have to serve the full two years? And then that damned probation. What a sick world this is.
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Comment #82 posted by museman on February 05, 2006 at 14:05:01 PT
 FoM: video
Cool.Jerry and I were discussing a sequel that would focus on the WOD. Now we'll have to do it through the mail, at least the script writing, story line material. I've kicked around the idea of including some 3D character animation in this one. It's a project. can't do any actual video shooting until he's out.
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Comment #81 posted by FoM on February 05, 2006 at 13:41:34 PT
For Those Don't Have Jerry's Movie
Thank you Museman!http://www.terryhubbard.com/Let/LetMyPeopleGrow.html
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Comment #80 posted by Hope on February 05, 2006 at 13:24:21 PT
Herbdoc215
I guess you are safely home by now. I hope so. Thank you so much for being there in the flesh for us. Thank you.Museman...thank you for that information. They aren't going to be moving Runruff around? Diesel Therapy? I thought there was something about Oklahoma and some other states, too. I'm probably confusing the details with the details of another case.I've had bad luck with jail mail. So much of it has been returned with all sorts of postmarks and notations on it. I'm going to try, anyway. Out of probably six or seven letters I wrote to a woman friend here in Texas...the letters couldn't catch up with her or she never got them. Some were returned. Some were just gone. I believe she got one or maybe two of my letters. I would get an address for her...then they would move her without any notice to anyone. It was very disturbing. And calls from jail...they are more expensive than if they were from the same area...but not jail.For a plant. For a plant? 
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Comment #79 posted by FoM on February 05, 2006 at 13:13:11 PT
museman 
Thank you for the information. 
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Comment #78 posted by herbdoc215 on February 05, 2006 at 12:46:23 PT
Hope
Amen.....this place is the same for me for many years now... and will be our home for many more years. peace, steve
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Comment #77 posted by FoM on February 05, 2006 at 12:46:17 PT
Museman
Thanks so much. I was able to make a VCD and it is playing now on my TV! This is great! 
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Comment #76 posted by museman on February 05, 2006 at 12:45:34 PT
runruff contact info
I will post this on his page as well.Jerry Sisson Reg#66424-065
FMC Devens
Federal Medical Center
P.O. #879 Devens Ma 01434anyone in the area who wants to visit, may do so thurs-sun (I assume regular 'business' hours) at;FMC Devens 42 Patton rd. Devens Ma.if anyone wishes to help Jerry with his commissary, m.o.'s or cashiers checks can be sent to his account at;attn: Commissary
Federal Bureau of Prisons
Jerrry Sisson reg# 66424-065
p.o. #474701 Desmoine Iowa 50947-0001If anyone was so disposed, letters could be written now, and waiting for him, or arrive in his possession shortly after his induction.
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Comment #75 posted by FoM on February 05, 2006 at 11:57:40 PT
Hope and Museman
CNews is my sanctuary. Will something wonderful come from CNews someday? I think so. I think it is. When a community can pull together from all over the country and world what a remarkable thought for me to behold. We can't stop people's pain but we can help each other get thru it.Museman I just finished downloading Jerry's movie. I am going to see if I can get it so I can play it on tv. That's the next thing for me to do today. Thanks!
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Comment #74 posted by Hope on February 05, 2006 at 11:49:13 PT
FoM
Thank you for this place...this refuge. Thank you so much. I know it's hard work and your endurance and commitment is a wonder to behold. Thank you.
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Comment #73 posted by Hope on February 05, 2006 at 11:47:14 PT
Group Hug
Thanks, Museman. It is a terrible feeling to fear that something has happened to Cannabis News. This is where we get a lot of information and THE place to encourage each other to make it through these dark days for freedom. I've limped in here several mornings feeling hopeless and powerless, only to be bandaged up and comforted and sent back out to fight another day for liberty and freedom. There is a well spring of courage and comfort here.
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Comment #72 posted by museman on February 05, 2006 at 10:37:46 PT
FoM
Thanks.
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Comment #71 posted by FoM on February 05, 2006 at 10:34:05 PT
museman
I'm so sorry you had problems posting last night. I have had that happen to me too. I try to post and I am restricted. I clean out my cache and sometimes turn my computer off for a while and that seems to fix it but sometimes it doesn't. Mrs. Runruff has my e-mail address and she can give it to you. If I can't figure out what the problem is I contact Matt Elrod, CNews and Mapinc.'s webmaster.
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Comment #70 posted by museman on February 05, 2006 at 10:24:42 PT
everyone
I am learning a lot by this interaction with all of you. I thank you all again for welcoming me into this virtual community. Last night I had some anxiety over the fact that I couldn't post for some reason. I actually lost sleep over it- the idea that for some unknown reason I could no longer participate in this with you wonderful folks. Like getting a taste of something real sweet and nice, and then finding you cannot get back in to have more. What a relief to wake this Am to find that I can post! herbdoc; I thank you for what you are doing for my good friend runruff, and all the other people you help and attempt to help.everybody; I could praise you one by one, but even as you deserve it, lets just consider it one big virtual group hug.as herbdoc (and a few others have) said "United we stand, divided we fall."ps: the .WMV version of runfuffs video is up
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Comment #69 posted by mayan on February 05, 2006 at 10:20:34 PT
Thanks, Tuck
Tuck, after what you've been through I wouldn't blame you if you decided to drop out of this crazy world. The fact that you still stand by the vulnerable is telling of the great spirit that you possess. Thanks a million. Cloud7, I just got back and got it to open and I regret posting that link. The title just seemed to ring perfectly with what I was feeling at the moment. I have nothing against jews or any other peoples of the earth. Sorry if I offended anyone with that link. Live and learn. 
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Comment #68 posted by ekim on February 05, 2006 at 10:19:41 PT
to Mrs. Runruff
I hope that Mrs. Runruff has already contacted FAMM.
Families Against Mandatory Minimums.
National Office -- Wash. DC. 
famm famm.org
202-822-6700
202-822-6704 faxFamilies against mandatory minimums is a national nonprofit organization challenging inflexible and excessive penalties required by mandatory sentencing laws.
FAMM promotes sentencing policies that give judges discretion to sentence individuals according to their role in the offense, seriousness of the offense and potential of rehabilitation, 
FAMM 's 37,000 members include prisoners and their families, attorneys, judges, criminal justice experts and concerned citizens.
http://www.famm.org
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Comment #67 posted by Hope on February 05, 2006 at 09:32:34 PT
The Midnight Rider
In my mind...that will always be you, FoM...the Midnight Driver...would be more accurate. When I think of you moving that eighteen wheeler across a dark Texas night, not sure where you were going, but determined to do it, anyway.. I guess Stick would have been the "Rider".Speaking of dark nights. I've noticed that in Missouri, in particular...the night is heavier and the darkness is thicker and denser somehow. It's like it's got a solidity to it that I hadn't noticed anywhere else. It's strange.
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Comment #66 posted by Hope on February 05, 2006 at 09:26:08 PT
FoM, Toker
Thanks. I love to check in with you guys. I had to make a "deal" with my husband to get the computer for ten minutes. So I'm reading fast to catch up.
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Comment #65 posted by FoM on February 05, 2006 at 08:10:05 PT
whig
One of the most important things to me when it comes to CNews is I want it so much to be a place where people can share how they feel. When we share our joys and pain then we feel closer to the individual. Hope and I have shared lots of things publically. She is a Texan and I live in the ozone and we have a very common denominator. We both love the USA. Texas is my state and the ozone states are her states too. 
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Comment #64 posted by Toker00 on February 05, 2006 at 03:15:08 PT
Great way to start your day, Hope!
Wow, Hope. Check the time of your post no.61. Absolutely the very first post of 2-05-06. You were reaching out to your fellow man on the very first second of this day. You will have an unusually good day today, I predict.Wage peace on war. END CANNABIS PROHIBITION NOW!
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Comment #63 posted by Hope on February 05, 2006 at 00:34:12 PT
This article
is a very good article.
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Comment #62 posted by Hope on February 05, 2006 at 00:32:12 PT
Sleep
Think I'll try to get some.
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Comment #61 posted by Hope on February 05, 2006 at 00:00:01 PT
Whig
"Sorry to dump on you about my problems." Don't be.
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Comment #60 posted by Hope on February 04, 2006 at 23:56:37 PT
Herbdoc215
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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Comment #59 posted by BGreen on February 04, 2006 at 23:22:30 PT
We're with you, whig
The best people I've ever met were not in the churches, but in the cannabis community.Hmm, the cannabists are more Christ-like in general than the "christians."Go figure.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #58 posted by whig on February 04, 2006 at 23:10:51 PT
FoM
I didn't have insurance for about ten years. In the meantime my hip completely collapsed, and I was nearly crazy from pain all the time. We really undertreat pain in this country.What is interesting is that I got pretty good at blocking my pain, so I don't actually *feel* it unless it's really intense. Instead I just get migraine headaches and sleeplessness, apparently. When I take cannabis, I'm actually *more* conscious of the fact that my bones hurt. But I'm also better able to deal with that, versus most of the rest of the time when I think I feel fine but I can't find the energy to do anything.If we could grow our own pot, we would. Where we live now it isn't possible. My wife has multiple sclerosis, too. It would really help us a lot to have it for regular pain management. But we cannot afford it now. Insurance alone is a thousand a month, plus our other living expenses, and we don't make much money so we actually get a certain amount of help from our families, and we cannot really justify spending other people's money on pot.Sorry to dump on you about my problems. I know what Steve and Runruff and so many others are going through is far worse. I'm not fighting the system openly, I did that when I was younger and I lost the energy to do it any more. I've been arrested enough times, and had enough people have to bail me out, it's an imposition on everyone, and it didn't really accomplish much other than turning me against the state as an institution.I really believe that communities are the source and object of good social government. I think we need to actually care about one another. This idea of every man and woman for themselves is just a terrible ideology.
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Comment #57 posted by FoM on February 04, 2006 at 22:54:22 PT
whig and herboc215
I'm sorry to read about your illness. We desperately need some form of health issurance here in the USA. I have watched people die prematurely because of not having insurance. That shouldn't happen in our country. Thanks again herboc215 for what you are doing for runruff.
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Comment #56 posted by whig on February 04, 2006 at 22:49:54 PT
FoM
I had to move heaven and earth to get insurance when I got cut off. It's still a big deal for us wherever we wind up moving over the summer. For one thing I have a rare condition that causes my bones to deteriorate from the inside out, and I've had to have total hip arthroplasty. I can take an enzyme to help keep things in check but it's about a quarter million per year. Insurance companies run screaming from me.
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Comment #55 posted by herbdoc215 on February 04, 2006 at 22:32:57 PT
He's not saying better than herb
He's not saying better than herbjust better than nothing...especially in jail...hell I would have loved it in lockup as it helps some...as for expense of it, I've gotted Unimed to donate to dozens of people thru the years it's just paperwork hassle from hell. And if not then the 'movement' will just have to find a way to fund ill patients in custody as if more people recieve it in jail it will change things, especially runruff as feds gotta pay for meds if in their custody...ironic isn't it? united we stand....divided we fall. peace, Steve Tuck
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Comment #54 posted by FoM on February 04, 2006 at 22:21:31 PT
Whig
I don't know. I haven't been to a doctor since 94. We don't have insurance. (Luckily my husband has the VA) I don't really know anyone that has insurance since people will know are self employed and it is very expensive if you can get it at all.
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Comment #53 posted by whig on February 04, 2006 at 22:17:01 PT
FoM
Will insurance even cover Marinol?
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Comment #52 posted by FoM on February 04, 2006 at 22:09:28 PT
herbdoc215 
I know that we do the best we can often out of our own pain. I do hope everything works out for Steve. If Marinol helps him that is good. I just hope no one tries to make Steve imply that medical marijuana isn't necessary. I don't believe in synthetics but herbs. I have been physically hurt by pharmaceuticals so I shy away from them. Marinol is expensive and without insurance who can afford it? 
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Comment #51 posted by herbdoc215 on February 04, 2006 at 21:59:04 PT
Just returning what so many gave me
and making one more payment on my soul back...I'm not real proud of all I did whilst a soldier and still have many payments due!...at Steve's 1st hearing I saw why God saved me...to stand with and witness for those in same position I was. Steve Kubby is having same gun pulled on his head I did by cops...shut up, go along or were giving you 5 hard years they know would kill us so please don't think this is his doing as this is just a faustian deal at best but only way gets to see his girls grow up???hope that helps understand?
I see something we can do here to make an actual difference...We'll be here for runruff until he get's resolution he desires...it's the right thing to do and I only wish I could've done more sooner? peace, Steve Tuck
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Comment #50 posted by whig on February 04, 2006 at 21:45:08 PT
Steve Tuck
BLESS YOU.
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Comment #49 posted by whig on February 04, 2006 at 21:43:50 PT
GCW - Michael
Part IV begins with a discussion of Michael, and so I am, and so I must be very cautious reading and it does set my alarm bells off very quickly."When you have succeeded in terminating the Urantia secession, as you undoubtedly will, I counsel you to accept from Gabriel the conference of the title of `Planetary Prince of Urantia' as the eternal recognition by your universe of your final bestowal experience; and that you further do any and all things, consistent with the purport of your bestowal, to atone for the sorrow and confusion brought upon Urantia by the Caligastia betrayal and the subsequent Adamic default."If I believed this, I would nonetheless reject it. Moreover I believe this is a real DECEPTION because to pursue a mission with the hope of achieving power and recognition by it is not the right footing to be on.Rather We should do as We know to be rightful, and let the consequences follow as they will. We know it goes our way, but it is for all of us and not for our individual selves, not for money or power or fame or glory, that we do this.
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Comment #48 posted by FoM on February 04, 2006 at 21:40:26 PT
 herbdoc215 
You are a special person. If anyone can bring this together you can. Thank you. 
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Comment #47 posted by herbdoc215 on February 04, 2006 at 21:35:11 PT
Just got back...the ball is rolling!
I have been discussing this all nite with the powers that be. This case will no longer be in the dark...attorneys are being procured, strategies are being planned...first concern is Runruffs health...Only standing together can we fight this jougernaught...We all must deluge them with calls demanding feds supply marinal or at least allows us to until we can appeal this and attempt an appeal bond...the marinol should also push that....sorry still typing on keyboard the size of a matchbook:>...home soon i hope!
Lawyers, public awareness and much pressure can help this case greatly...plus we need to do mo forfamilies of fallen and I'm pushing that for all it's worth...Norml is going to help and Richard Cowan is going to help me triage this one thank goodness so we got a shot! It's sooo important for folks to know we got their back... Just like yall got mine, family!!!! more soon, but rest assured I'm moving mountains and could use all the help I can get, pray for all your worth!  peace, Steve Tuck
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Comment #46 posted by whig on February 04, 2006 at 21:21:53 PT
GCW - Brief comment
Without getting into a lengthy reply or taking discussion too far afield from CNews:I said, "Cannabis is mother's milk. It is the Tree of Life. It is the Eucharist."You said, "I wish to restate My belief that cannabis is also a tool that We can use for daily baptism."Yes. That is why the Lord's prayer says, "Give us this day our daily bread." It is not for the bread which nourishes the body that it means, but for the spiritual bread by which we are baptised, anointed, healed and fed.
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Comment #45 posted by The GCW on February 04, 2006 at 20:59:25 PT
whig, about #38- Assertions of Urantia Book
That is heavy. Urantia has heavy places that the reading before helps understand and heavy places to spend time and read each word with understanding before going to the next word. And then some is still too heavy.Yes.And more important, for Me is why I started reading Urantia to begin with, which was perhaps 5 years ago. Part IV is where I started reading because of the information about Jesus Christ; titled: "The Life And Teachings Of Jesus."There is a lot to learn about The Christ Jesus, not available in the Bible, which I consider, Our Owners Manual.I was, shall I say, afraid of Urantia a bit after the beginning and even put it down for perhaps a year or more and then was able to learn in the Bible that I could go to Urnatia with pray to Christ God Our Father and His Spirit of Truth, to show Me the truth as He wishes for Me to know it, and feel protected and even more, able to learn what Our Father wants Me to know. That understanding allows Me not to go anywhere, to learn.And so I meditate with The Ecologician before reading the Bible, and most any other book.That all has the effect of helped Me to get closer to Our God.Sometimes people have a problem with the Authors of Urantia, which are extraterrestrials.-0-That part You quoted is quite heavy and difficult and I don't know that I understand those types of places described, but they are defined in the beginning of the Book in the lengthy forward.In the contents You can see the listed authors of each paper.Again, I Am not offended.If You wish to know more about what made the Christ tick and how He ticked, read and start with Part 4. It will take time; it is a bunch.Also, in #44, You said, "Cannabis is mother's milk. It is the Tree of Life. It is the Eucharist." I wish to restate My belief that cannabis is also a tool that We can use for daily baptism. Matthew 3:11, "As for me, I baptize you with water for repentance, but He who is coming after me is mightier than I, and I am not fit to remove His sandals; He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire."Notice why We baptize?-0-This house has a lot of love.The Green Collar Worker 
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Comment #44 posted by whig on February 04, 2006 at 20:26:18 PT
GCW - Universe of Universes
By the way, He told me these things once, and a diagrams, and many other things, but some of the things were not True. I am wary of the Deceiver. I think that the greatest truths are beyond language, and when a too pat explanation is given, it tends to lead Us into the thicket.I would love to speak more directly with you than I would do here, but what I have learned to do is speak from My own Heart, and not quote from scripture of ancient or modern origin to control, for there is much of metaphor that is misperceived as literal.You may believe or doubt many things, and this too, or come to think differently of what you do today tomorrow, and tomorrow the day after that. And the same goes for me, and I may question my words of today on the day after next.But we speak as we do, and we do as we can, and we are what we are. For the sake of all we wish for the people to have their daily bread, and for each of us then to make our journey up the mountainside as we find our own path toward the top. And it is not for one of us but for all that we do this, not to glorify our names, but to spiritualize the world.Cannabis is mother's milk. It is the Tree of Life. It is the Eucharist. We do not worship cannabis, it is what we use to know God which is within all of us. And that is precisely why it has been prohibited whenever it has not been concealed totally from the public knowledge.
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Comment #43 posted by ekim on February 04, 2006 at 20:13:42 PT
ok Hope here is a amen or awomen to be pc:)
see the pic and think cnewsers might someday get one.
http://www.magiceye.com/client/grammy.htm
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Comment #42 posted by Hope on February 04, 2006 at 20:12:37 PT
comment 37
That's disturbing. 
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Comment #41 posted by Hope on February 04, 2006 at 20:10:26 PT
Herbdoc215....standing by for reports. 
Take care.Comment 34 Whig. I trust so.The GCW...35. Thank you. I tossed and turned a lot last night. For a long, long time.Museman...Comment 36. That sounds like a hymn to my unmusical imaginary hearing. I think I know what and where you are singing about. Or at least I can certainly imagine that I do.It's good. Thanks. Thanks all of you. Just for being.
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Comment #40 posted by FoM on February 04, 2006 at 19:43:27 PT
museman
Thank you. The words are very nice. I'm glad you are practicing with Fam. When someone has a talent of music they need to follow the muse. Neil said that and I think I understand.
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Comment #39 posted by cloud7 on February 04, 2006 at 19:42:11 PT
mayan
Just wanted to let you know the cytations blog opened fine for me. I checked it in IE and firefox.
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Comment #38 posted by whig on February 04, 2006 at 19:34:20 PT
GCW - Assertions of Urantia Book
I am uncomfortable with assertions that seem meant to be taken literally, such as this:"The seven evolving superuniverses in association with the central and divine universe, we commonly refer to as the grand universe; these are the now organized and inhabited creations. They are all a part of the master universe, which also embraces the uninhabited but mobilizing universes of outer space."Please do not take offense, because I am only responding with my feelings here, and I do not intend to pass judgment. This reads like a Scientology tract. It is sheer unsupported assertion which seems to serve no purpose of revealing wisdom.In other words, if we are citing to facts they should be such as we can know, or can interpret in a way that gives us understanding of something deep and important. But this excerpt seems to do neither, to me.
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Comment #37 posted by The GCW on February 04, 2006 at 19:27:50 PT
On that subject; killing suppported in the church,
The Universal Life Church it seems has been taken over.Roger Christie, who stops by,Posts this one at the THC Ministry:I'm amazed. :-Ohttp://www.thc-ministry.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6250“Ordination as a minister does not entitle anyone to engage in any activities that are unlawful. There exists no freedom of religion to engage in activities that are illegal. Freedom of religion does not mean freedom of practice. Sometimes people have misunderstood the difference. It does not matter if one has a belief in using “pot” as a religious sacrament. Use of that substance is illegal and no religious activity can cover its use. “ 
 ContReverend Ferre, comments:Another thing that amazed me is that if you are not PRO WAR and PRO US, like me, you get banned at the ULCCont.
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Comment #36 posted by museman on February 04, 2006 at 19:18:15 PT
here
I am here. The news that I have to report on runruffs behalf is that he talked to herbdoc, and arrangements are being made to get an appeal started. There may not be much info on that for a while, but herbdoc will probably give us some updates.I have something I'd like to share.It's the lyrics to a song I wrote a long time ago, back when some others of my friends were being hauled down the injustice railroad, over herb. Runruff was in a band with me at the time called 'New Wine.' He was the drummer. I've been looking all day for a recording of the one concert we did, and this particular song. I coudn't find it (but I am still gonna be looking) however I feel that the lyrics are so appropriate I've been thinking about it for a few weeks. I even began practicing with the band (Fam). I lost a very important verse. I found the verse so here it is;How Long?In the court was found no reason
for the logic of the debate,
though Truth was still in season
for the church and state.While the world was busy sleeping
about it's wages for the day,
the children of heaven are weeping,
and they'd like to say;"How long? How long? How long must we stay?"Now there's a promise in the sky of fire and water,
how love was given and stolen by a kiss.Well there's not much time for looking... after.
It's a fact you shouldn't miss.But there's many faces to remember
who stood alone to light our way, though some sought to still their voice forever,
we still can say;"How long? How long? How long will it take?"Hey where you going with that love in your eye?
Don't you know it's a crime? You'll pay.Don't you know you got to learn to lie,
and measure the time of day.This ain't no place for innocent joy!
They'll only destroy it some way."How long? How long? How long must we stay?"No child of God should have ever come here,
it's a place of fear-little lovebut it's great opportunity for a 'Holy' career
if you can handle the push and shove.Hey where you goin' with that love in your eye?
Don't you know it's a crime?No, you got to learn to lie, and measure the time.
This ain't no place for innocent joy!No child of God should have ever come here,
Great opportunity for a 'Holy' career.No child of God should have ever come here.
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Comment #35 posted by The GCW on February 04, 2006 at 19:17:14 PT
Whig, Hope,
whig, Urantia IS Our planet... #29Hope, Your post in #28; I like what You shared. It is nice to know that if Christ God Our Father is there for the worst, He is there for the rest.I was gone, trying to sleep. I Am up to about 3 - 4 hours of sleep. I keep trying, and I Am starting to think it is not to be and eventually I Am not going to sleep. That is not what I Am here for.
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Comment #34 posted by whig on February 04, 2006 at 19:04:26 PT
Hope
Don't confuse kindness with untruth. What I say is meant.
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Comment #33 posted by Hope on February 04, 2006 at 18:53:22 PT
How sweet you are.
That's so sweet. Thank you, Whig. 
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Comment #32 posted by whig on February 04, 2006 at 18:52:00 PT
Hope
You are not just an example. You are yourself the goal. Each of us is. We are all One.
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Comment #31 posted by Hope on February 04, 2006 at 18:49:29 PT
Thank you
Thank you. I see some posts.
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Comment #30 posted by Hope on February 04, 2006 at 18:48:23 PT
I need to hear amens...I agree...hello...something
If you're there. Maybe there is no one or very few of us.
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Comment #29 posted by whig on February 04, 2006 at 18:47:39 PT
Urantia
GCW - Why are You using this context now?Do You take this for the best metaphor, or just One of many?
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Comment #28 posted by Hope on February 04, 2006 at 18:45:13 PT
and this
 15Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners—of whom I am the worst. 16But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his unlimited patience as an example for those who would believe on him and receive eternal life. 17Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory for ever and ever. Amen.
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Comment #27 posted by whig on February 04, 2006 at 18:42:43 PT
GCW
We are here now.There is no time.
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Comment #26 posted by FoM on February 04, 2006 at 18:41:29 PT
Hope
I'm here just waiting to hear something. 
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Comment #25 posted by Hope on February 04, 2006 at 18:40:55 PT
I'd like to post this...
Paul, the Apostle, said to Timothy...his young friend: 
   "Grace, mercy and peace from God the Father and Christ Jesus our Lord."
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Comment #24 posted by Hope on February 04, 2006 at 18:36:17 PT
The GCW
"We are told to test the spirits.So, We are expected to do that and when We test the spirit of a church that rationalizes killing, they are exposed as evil and worse."So very true. I think and believe and practice what you are referring to.
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Comment #23 posted by Hope on February 04, 2006 at 18:32:01 PT
I wish that everyone ....if anyone
is keeping this vigil with us...would post a word or two or just...Hello.I'd just like to know.
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Comment #22 posted by ekim on February 04, 2006 at 18:06:13 PT
March 29th to April 10 will include Kansas City
Mar 29 06 Mid-America Tour 12:00 AM Jack Cole Kansas/Missouri USA 
 Executive Director Jack Cole visits the heartland on his 2006 “Mid-America Tour”. This year's tour will go from March 29th to April 10th and will include Kansas City, as well as Lawrence and Topeka, KS and surrounding towns. To request Mr. Cole to visit with your organization, send an email to Schreier LEAP.cc. Apr 3 06 Overland Park Rotary Club 12:00 PM Jack Cole Overland Park Kansas USA 
 Members of the Overland Park Rotary Club welcome Executive Director Jack Cole for lunch and discussion of various issues related to the failure of America's war on drugs. 
http://www.leap.cc/events
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Comment #21 posted by museman on February 04, 2006 at 16:21:49 PT
Bgreen
Thanks.
And just for grins and giggles, I'd like you to know that I was born in KC Mo. And I meant every word I said about forums. I am a cynical old dude, might be apparent from some of the things that I post, but that perspective didn't come about vicariously, I lived the reasons why I have a deep anger towards the error and evil of the Rulers of the world. To be able to voice my perspective and opinion is valuable to me, and I appreciate it immensely. To find agreement like this for me, is spiritually, and intellectually invigorating.You know I have mentioned someting about 'gatherings' in one of my earlier posts, I have some ideas about them. It is something that can be discussed and worked on. I have more info at my whole earth family site. The hardest thing is being taken seriously. So many people have the dollar attatched to everything they do, the expectation is that nobody could really be making an offer of service without those monetary strings.Each one of us can only do so much, yet each little effort in a positive direction has such a profound reachng effect in this relative spiritual darkness. To see that 'light' dawning in the consciousness of man is actually wages enough for some of us.
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Comment #20 posted by The GCW on February 04, 2006 at 16:18:56 PT
Museman,
About the churches...Many of those churches that You have a problem with, support killing.Talk about a problem.We are told to test the spirits.So, We are expected to do that and when We test the spirit of a church that rationalizes killing, they are exposed as evil and worse.We are clicking.Buckle up.I Am aware of it also.Isn't this country full of churches that rationalize killing?Isn't there some mention of apocalypse?That isn't something that will happen in a ball park.That is something that will happen to those who harm those in the ball park. Oh, and again; thare are no coincidences, anymore.The scripture is to be fulfilled.So My joy may be made full.My request:People on Urnatia; use Your free will wisely.Christ StanThe Green Collar Worker
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Comment #19 posted by FoM on February 04, 2006 at 16:04:44 PT
mayan 
I tried but it didn't want to open for me.
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Comment #18 posted by mayan on February 04, 2006 at 15:55:01 PT
Won't Open
I just found this link but the page won't open for me. Is anyone else having trouble with it? I don't know what it's about so I hope it's not anti-semitic or offensive to anyone if they can get it to open. If There is a Superbowl Terror Attack, It Ain't Arabs:
http://cytations.blogspot.com/2006/02/if-there-is-superbowl-terror-attack-it.html
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Comment #17 posted by Hope on February 04, 2006 at 15:22:21 PT
citizen of that county?
No. I guess not. Just a U.S. citizen concerned about things around there.I understand though. I registered there...but I won't post.
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Comment #16 posted by BGreen on February 04, 2006 at 15:21:08 PT
Museman
I'm glad you've found a comfortable place in the CNews family.You and I share so many similarities.I'm a musician, too, and I was born and raised in the Kansas City area. I even lived in Overland Park for 8 months during 1965 before my parents bought a house in Independence, MO.One of these days we're all going to get together face to face, and I'm proud to add you as another member of the CNews family that I can't wait to finally meet.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #15 posted by museman on February 04, 2006 at 15:00:25 PT
posting at I luvGP
Are you a josephine county citizen? If you are then please forgive me if I step on your toes inadvertently. I just wrote a long post about the corruption in this county. Just the idea of 'loving Grants Pass' sends a shiver of disgust down my spine. Grants Pass is the county seat for Josephine. Around here we affectionately call it 'Grants Piss.' I perused the forum there and it struck me very hard as being very status quo oriented. I am under no illusions as to how far the powers in this county will go to protect their power, and I'd just as soon not invite them into my head. If they want to they can read the posts here. Also I must admit that I am not a huge fan of internet forums. I have tried posting on numerous forums in the past, and without exception -until this one- I have been met with overwhelming jokerhood attitudes at about 3rd grade level intelligence. My time is valuable to me since I've already used most of it, but I see no reason why, if you feel this information needs to be posted there, you can not do it yourself? just a suggestion.
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Comment #14 posted by FoM on February 04, 2006 at 14:47:56 PT
museman
I understand what you mean. I guess I see this whole situation in a way like you do. One of the things I know is when I was active in a fundamentalist church that hate came easy to them. They say they hate sin but they really hate people who think outside the box. Hate fuels these problems. They are jealous of free thinking people who still connect and smile.
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Comment #13 posted by Hope on February 04, 2006 at 14:26:03 PT
Museman...Runruff
What do you guys think about posting something here?http://www.ilovegrantspass.com/
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Comment #12 posted by museman on February 04, 2006 at 14:09:15 PT
corruption
I don't know how much awareness folks have bout the nature of our local governments, but because of the situation facing runruff and his wife, I think it's time to let the cat out of the bag concerning them.Of course there are always exceptions, and I do believe some of them are starting to make a difference, however all over this country from the local townships, to state legislatures, and ultimately also on the federal level, there exists a certain kind of corruption which I believe we as citizens have the power to address.Around here we refer to this phenomenon as 'the good 'ol boy' network. It is a close knit circle of family and friends who support each other towards the greatly achieved goal of taking over the power positions in every state of then union.It's not just about republicans and democrats, they are all the same pretty much. It is about the local churches who back these politically inbred candidates and incumbants consistently, particularly since GW took office.It's about the local rich, who lavish favor on their puppets, and litigation on those who challenge their authority. In fact this is the nature of prohihbition.They have schemes and plans in place that go back years, and in some cases centuries. They are closed circles operating under the guise of 'democratic rule.' Didn't anyone ever question the local dynasties of power? I suppose in the cities it is not quite as easy to pull, but then it is also much harder to detect.In rural towns, and smaller cities it is a done deal. I think this is one of the reasons all those states in the midwest backed bush.Here in Josephine county Oregoon, which is a model of corruption if there ever was, every population center is controlled by the same families and friends for at least the last 100 years.The sheriffs as well as the local DEA representative, take regular payoffs from the meth dealers in our area. I know this because I have neighbors who are the biggest meth-connection on the west coast. I have watched them have the most obnoxious parties you can possibly imagine going all the way into 4 am in the morning.
I have watched many teenagers go into that house to apparently buy meth, or be given it by the pusher who resides there. This house is about 500 feet beyond the legal 'drug free zone' of the local high school.I have communicated this (other citizens have as well) to the local authorities, but to this date other than a slight reduction in traffic, (because they busted some of the more gnarly old users who were flaunting their ability to get away with it.) the thing continues unabated. 
I often see the sheriffs dept there, but nobody ever gets busted. There are some very wealthy folks who show up from time to time. Nobody ever gets busted, except people like Jerry, for pot.The local DA, most of the sheriffs, the county commissioners, the judges, and the public defenders, are all part of that 'G.O.B.' network.The major economics of this region has (until recently) been the lumber industry, so it is the front lines in many environmental battles. The federal support for the GOBs in this region is funded through private concerns, like church organizations, and the WOD. The walls here are very thick.I aid we had the power to address this and I believe we do, it's called the Truth. As herbdoc said to me on the phone earlier today, 'People got to stand up!'I must stop for it because Jerry is here..I will continue after we talk. ...L and I are sharing for J because he can't partake.
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Comment #11 posted by OverwhelmSam on February 04, 2006 at 13:47:19 PT
GOOD To GO MPP
I like the fact that MPP has began an initiative seeking term limits for elected officials in San Diego county. And it will pass. County supervisors are whinning about it.Finally, elected representatives are beginning to "get the message" that they will be held accountable for their decisions in office, in terms of getting their polictical careers short. Locking people up in jail for marijuana is a bad, bad thing.
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Comment #10 posted by runderwo on February 04, 2006 at 12:23:30 PT
OT: busy little bees
Can anyone imagine living like this? All in the name of "success" and "productivity".
The Type-A Bathroom
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Comment #9 posted by potpal on February 04, 2006 at 10:39:50 PT
Stirring the pot
Is it any more a stirring than Iranian intention to hold an international conference to assess the validity of the holocaust?
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Comment #8 posted by FoM on February 04, 2006 at 10:09:32 PT
Had Enough 
I know that the news is moving very fast and even important news doesn't get aired very long. Since the Tsunami think about all that has happened. It's only been about one year. I'm not depressed about it all but I do wonder how this runaway snowball can be slowed down.
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Comment #7 posted by Had Enough on February 04, 2006 at 09:51:27 PT
On the Eve of Destruction
FoM. I’ve been hearing that tune more than usual lately. Went awhile without a peep, and lately it’s been more than several times.Coincidence???Things that make you go Hhhmmmmm.
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Comment #6 posted by FoM on February 04, 2006 at 09:27:43 PT
Mayan
I have been looking at google news and telling my husband about some of the things that happened this week like the tornados in New Orleans and he shook his head. It made me thing of this song. Everything seems like it's moving faster. Maybe I feel this odd feeling because I am very sad about Runruff and Mrs. Runruff though.
Eve Of Destruction MP3
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Comment #5 posted by FoM on February 04, 2006 at 08:31:49 PT
mayan
Fear can be a healthy thing. I don't know about how or why something is happening but I do look at areas that fuel the hatred towards us in America. I am a peaceful person by nature. I don't like when they stir up things. When I see stirring happening I start questioning why. I didn't see the cartoon that they are so up in arms about but I do know that they don't have what they call graven images. William Bennett said on CNN that basically he didn't think anything was really wrong with it since it's political by nature. That is serious stirring in my book and it made me angry.
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Comment #4 posted by mayan on February 04, 2006 at 08:22:38 PT
FoM
I believe there will be another attack and it will be "A Bigger Bang",so to speak,than 9/11. After 9/11 most folks didn't even consider government complicity because it was such a horrific,outrageous act. People just couldn't imagine that their government could be involved in something like that. When the "terrorists" do the next one they will want to make folks think and feel the same way. Psy-Ops. PNAC. I am very afraid. 
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Comment #3 posted by FoM on February 04, 2006 at 07:53:37 PT
mayan
I hope nothing happens at the Superbowl. In this day and age I wouldn't feel safe going to an event that was really big. I am looking forward to seeing the Rolling Stones though.
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Comment #2 posted by mayan on February 04, 2006 at 07:37:45 PT
Very Strange
One of the three new Super Bowl security companies and the only one not from Detroit,Alpha Protection Group, handled security at the G-8 Summit in Scotland last year. That is when the 7/7 London Tube bombings took place. 
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Comment #1 posted by mayan on February 04, 2006 at 07:10:24 PT
Kinda' Strange
Sorry, unrelated...Security for Super Bowl called into question:
http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/sports/football/13726487.htmFrom the above linked article...The league has cut ties with the nationally respected security firm it has used for the last 29 Super Bowls, California-based Contemporary Services Corporation. It will go a less expensive route this year, hiring three smaller, less-experienced companies to handle security for Super Bowl XL next week in Detroit.The league sure has picked a strange time to make a security switch of this magnitude, considering that next week's game will be played just a half-mile from an international border. (Detroit is across the river from Windsor, Ontario.) It also comes just three weeks after the latest taped threat of a terrorist attack by Osama bin Laden.Why would you want three seperate,smaller,less-experienced companies doing security if terrorism is supposedly a real threat? How are these companies supposed to coordinate with each other? Does that make any sense at all? Does anyone else find this strange, especially after the fact that the 9/11 truth movement has recently found it's way into several mainstream media outlets? I've never been to a Super Bowl and I'm sure glad I don't know anyone going this year...Super Bowl Sunday terror chatter high: http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=48559Homeland Security sure has it's priorities set...Bogus NFL memorabilia is not welcome in Detroit: http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060131/SPORTS0106/601310310/1126/SPORTS0101Might as well bring NATO...NORAD and U.S. Coast Guard Set for Super Bowl Security:
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Feb2006/20060203_4106.html
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