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  Medical Marijuana Clears Senate 

Posted by CN Staff on February 01, 2006 at 07:31:47 PT
By Steve Terrell, The New Mexican  
Source: Santa Fe New Mexican  

Santa Fe, NM -- By an overwhelming majority, the state Senate on Tuesday approved a bill that would allow sufferers of serious medical conditions to smoke marijuana without fear of prosecution. Strong majorities of both political parties contributed to the 34-6 passage of SB258, sponsored by Sen. Cisco McSorley, D-Albuquerque . “I think it’s wonderful,” said Essie DeBonet, an Albuquerque AIDS sufferer who has lobbied for the bill the past two sessions. “The Senate showed their concerns for people.”
Although an assistant to the White House drug czar flew to New Mexico to testify against the bill last week, 12 of the Senate’s 18 Republicans voted for it. With two of the Senate’s most socially conservative senators — Sen. Kent Cravens, R-Albuquerque ; and Sen. Bill Sharer, R-Farmington — voting for the first time in favor of a medical-marijuana bill, it might seem that the political landscape has shifted for this issue. However, to become law, the bill first must make it through the House, where last year’s bill died as a “hostage” in political wrangling over an unrelated bill. Most involved in the issue agree the House won’t be as easy as the Senate — especially during the last half of a short session. Even before the bill passed the Senate, advocates began working the House. “We had a great meeting last week with (House Speaker) Ben Luján ,” said Reena Szczepanski — director of the state chapter of The Drug Policy Alliance, a national drug-law reform group that has been pushing the proposed bill. But she said the speaker made no promises. “It’s definitely in his court now.” In an interview Tuesday, Luján said he is disappointed that the medical-marijuana bill was one of the first Senate bills passed this year. “I would have hoped that the first bills passed would have addressed issues that are more at the forefront of what the general public really wants,” he said. But, Luján said, “I’m not going to derail this bill or attempt to keep it from being heard.” He said he expects to give the bill only two committee assignments — House Consumer and Public Affairs and House Judiciary — the same two that heard last year’s bill. Last year, the measure zipped through Consumer and Public Affairs unanimously and got an 8-1 favorable vote in Judiciary. Although last year’s bill was on the House floor schedule for several days, it never got heard. Rep. Dan Silva, DAlbuquerque , was blunt about the fact that he had worked behind the scenes to delay action on the medical-marijuana bill. Silva said his actions were caused by the Senate Judiciary Committee, chaired by medical-marijuana sponsor McSorley , not hearing a bill dealing with an Albuquerque development that Silva sponsored. On Tuesday, Silva said he had no plans to hold up the latest medical-marijuana bill. Gov. Bill Richardson, who put the bill on his legislative call, has said he’d sign a medical-marijuana bill. Eric Witt, one of the governor’s legislative liaisons, said Tuesday that Richardson would sign the bill if he was convinced it was not in direct conflict with federal law and it protected state agencies involved in the program. Sen. Bill Payne, R-Albuquerque , has argued that the bill conflicts with federal law and is “throwing down the gauntlet” for a court challenge. Cravens told his colleagues Tuesday that even though he voted against SB258 in the Judiciary Committee last week, he’d had “a change of heart.” “I commend the sponsor,” he said. “The way he’s gone about it added credibility to the bill.” Sharer told a reporter, “This was a hard one for me. I was predisposed to vote against it.” But Sharer said he’s convinced that the bill contains enough safeguards against abuse. “This made me think this is a medical bill, not a marijuana bill.” Some senators credited Erin Armstrong, the 24-year-old daughter of state Aging and Long-Term Services secretary Debbie Armstrong, for convincing them to back the bill. Erin Armstrong has struggled with thyroid cancer. The Senate amended the title of the bill — originally named for Lynn Pierson, a cancer patient who was instrumental in getting the Legislature to pass a medicalmarijuana research program in 1978 — to include Erin Armstrong’s name. Under the bill, the state Health Department would establish regulations by which patients — certified by a physician to be suffering specific medical conditions — could obtain marijuana. The department would license marijuana providers or marijuana-growing facilities. Patients would be allowed to possess a three-month supply of the drug. Among the possible qualifying illnesses that would make a patient eligible for marijuana are cancer, glaucoma, epilepsy, multiple sclerosis, HIV-AIDS and certain spinal-cord injuries. Those found guilty of fraudulently obtaining marijuana through the state program could be found guilty of a petty misdemeanor on top of whatever drug charges they faced. McSorley said patients would not be immune from federal prosecution. But he said that so far the federal government hasn’t prosecuted any patients in the medical-marijuana programs in the 11 states that have such laws. Source: Santa Fe New Mexican (NM)Author: Steve Terrell, The New Mexican Published: January 31, 2006 Copyright: 2006 The Santa Fe New MexicanContact: letters sfnewmexican.comWebsite: http://www.sfnewmexican.com/ Related Articles & Web Site:Drug Policy Alliancehttp://www.drugpolicy.org/Senate Approves Medical Marijuana http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread21548.shtmlSenate Approves Bill To Legalize Marijuanahttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread21544.shtmlDrug Policy Official Fails To Sway Senate http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread21529.shtml

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Comment #50 posted by Toker00 on February 03, 2006 at 04:00:05 PT
This paragraph condemns Prohibition.
"You must not seek to promugate
truth nor to establish righteousness
by the power of civil governments
or by the enaction of secular laws.
You must always labor to PERSUADE
human minds but you must never dare
to compel them."This very clearly says what we have been saying to the Anti's (promugaters of truth, enactors of secular laws) all along.We can be enfluenced by the Truth, or we can be enfluenced by the Lie. If you are enfluenced by the Truth, you are aware that your existence has purpose, and is ever lasting. If you are enfluenced by the Lie, you are confused about your existence, wonder about purpose, and are limited by thoughts of death being final, and life being finite. We are all enfluenced by both. The test is recognizing in your heart what is Truth and what is Lie. Some recognize the Truth as the Lie and the Lie as the Truth. We all do this to some degree, no one being perfect. But ultimately, the Truth will be the only thing that survives this test, because it is the only thing that IS. All the Lies will fall by the way and cease to be, since they never WERE. This is when all these ISMs WILL become WASMs. SOMEday, we will ALL know the Truth, but not TOday.Wage peace on war. END CANNABIS PROHIBITION NOW! 
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Comment #49 posted by whig on February 02, 2006 at 23:39:21 PT
Google Map
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Comment #48 posted by whig on February 02, 2006 at 23:03:44 PT
John Tyler
GONG - FLYING TEAPOT:If you feel belief hi PeteI got a story to tell youOf a band of little green menFrom a far away planetIf you want to know about loveThen ask the wee geezerHe can teach you telepathyHe can read your mind backwardsIf you try to do the cat inYou can only be a loserParanoia never touch himHe's got ways of laughterBaby don't you bring yourself downGot to catch you up laterIf you want to know about loveYou can ask the wee geezerHe can teach you telepathyHe can read your mind backwardsIf you try to do the cat inYou can only be a loserParanoia never touch himHe's got ways of laughterBaby don't you bring yourself downI'll catch you up laterGive him a bit of your love you get it back later... 
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Comment #47 posted by FoM on February 02, 2006 at 22:13:51 PT
Something Interesting I Just Found
I thought I better look up information on Cosmic Truth and found this interesting link...Cosmic Law - Cause & Effect:http://globalvisions.org/cl/swn/cosmiclaws/cause.html
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Comment #46 posted by FoM on February 02, 2006 at 20:52:19 PT
John Tyler 
What you call Cosmic Truth I call a Spirit that flows between what is good and right and necessary.
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Comment #45 posted by John Tyler on February 02, 2006 at 20:40:22 PT
cosmic truth
Hey, I think we are all tuning into a consciousness that is hard to describe exactly, because words don’t quite capture it. It is something that is not sullied by word or thought, yet we have experienced it. I have read a lot about this over the years from different writers from different time periods and they all write about this truth differently, but they are in the end, writing about the same thing.
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Comment #44 posted by whig on February 02, 2006 at 17:08:08 PT
Max
"whig, I wasn't completely serious when I posted that about cannabism... it was just a random thought, so to speak. I do like the sound of it ("cannabism") though."Sounds kind of like cannibalism too... Which doesn't sound so good, but isn't entirely wrong either. Take and eat, this is our body.
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Comment #43 posted by Max Flowers on February 02, 2006 at 16:29:30 PT
Hope / whig
Hey no problem Hope, I just thought I'd point it out since we're all music fans here!whig, I wasn't completely serious when I posted that about cannabism... it was just a random thought, so to speak. I do like the sound of it ("cannabism") though. 
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Comment #42 posted by Hope on February 02, 2006 at 09:27:58 PT
Max...you're right. 
Joe Walsh..."And we don't need the ladies cryin cause the story's sad." I love that song.Duh. So the "book of Joe". I guess I over associate John Denver with the "Rocky Mountain Way". Sorry 'bout that.Thanks for the correction. 
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Comment #41 posted by whig on February 02, 2006 at 06:31:24 PT
Max #29
We don't actually worship cannabis, so cannabism is probably not the best term as it could imply a form of idolatry. But many of us certainly do believe (and it is a genuine religious belief) that cannabis is the eucharist, the spiritual bread. And I believe that this is what is meant by the phrase, "Give us this day our daily bread." It is not for bread to feed our body that we are to pray, but for bread to feed our spirit.
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Comment #40 posted by Had Enough on February 02, 2006 at 01:29:13 PT
The Score
Comment # 16: About the Related News Article from The Baptist PressThere is a line in there that looks interesting.(You might want to note that the number of states that don’t allow it outnumber those that do by 4-1.)The score used to be 50-0. Now it is 4-1, got to admit, things are getting better everyday.Now Go Vote! Help score another touchdown!!!
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Comment #39 posted by Max Flowers on February 01, 2006 at 23:24:57 PT
Rocky Mountain Way
That was Joe Walsh... which is a LONG way from John Denver! 
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Comment #38 posted by Hope on February 01, 2006 at 20:56:26 PT
Lombar
I tend to consider that theory highly likely to be true.
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Comment #37 posted by Hope on February 01, 2006 at 20:35:33 PT
the power to change things...apparently
or according to what many of us choose to believe...like water into wine.Magical thinking? Yeah. Really. Miraculous and magical and beyond. It's obviously beneficial to all that I am. Also, another word from the verses of John....John Denver... was right when he sang, "The Rocky Mountain way is better than the way we had."Rocky Mountain HIGH.
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Comment #36 posted by Hope on February 01, 2006 at 20:28:41 PT
creative powers
Even as a man he had the power to destroy completely. The fig tree is the only instance I know of that he lost his patience. 
Which worries me. We were to expect I think ...a man so gentle that he would not break a "bruised reed".So...I don't know. But a lot of these apparent conflicts in the books of the Bible are really "partners" that define a balance...in spite of themselves, for our sakes.
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Comment #35 posted by lombar on February 01, 2006 at 20:25:27 PT
Paralells
" We will know Poverty, and we will know Wealth, and all levels in between. We will visit every planet not only in this Galaxy, but in all of Creation. "In my studies of eastern Spirituality, I came across a mindset/teaching, to see that in ones many incarnations, everyone has been ones mother, father, brother, sister, son, etc, to develop both compassion and equinamity. I am not sure where however, it may have been an audio file I have "The Path to Enlightenment" by the 3rd(not positive, just know its old) Dalai Lama.
It could be here somewhere
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Comment #34 posted by Toker00 on February 01, 2006 at 20:17:40 PT
Thanks, guys.
Actually, thanks goes to that spirit which binds us all.Christ always told us to look to nature for answers. I believe Christ healed with SOMETHING natural, because as a man, he didn't have creative powers, only being able to use what God had already created. If not cannabis, then what? I'm not saying cannabis alone, as there are many healing plants, but how could it NOT be included? What will "science" tell us about this plant that Christ didn't already know and approve of? Nothing.Wage peace on war. END CANNABIS PROHIBITION NOW! 
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Comment #33 posted by Hope on February 01, 2006 at 19:29:18 PT
Toker00
"That was fun." Yes it was. Thank you. That was very good.
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Comment #32 posted by Hope on February 01, 2006 at 19:23:00 PT
Never have received a reply from them,
authors or editors. They seemed to have shunned me like I was the Devil himself and I couldn't bring myself to hand any more truth, also known by some people as "Pearls"... into their apparently senseless hands. 
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Comment #31 posted by Hope on February 01, 2006 at 19:15:14 PT

Whig ,comment 18, and OverwhelmSam
He's gonna "reap" sincere stupidity and gullibility and in some cases outright lies? I wouldn't be surprised.OverwhelmSam, comment 20, you said, "How many Baptist do you suppose are locked up over weed?" I'm reckoning they might be neck and neck with the Catholics. Lots of black and brown people in those two religions.
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Comment #30 posted by FoM on February 01, 2006 at 19:13:38 PT

Max Flowers 
No No No No. I don't even like to kill a plant. I can kill flies!
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Comment #29 posted by Max Flowers on February 01, 2006 at 19:12:13 PT

Speaking of religion
...I'd like to see a new religion:"Cannabism"Kinda like animism, without the animals! Devotees don't need to kill animals---they would just kill a plant every now and then.
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Comment #28 posted by FoM on February 01, 2006 at 19:12:12 PT

AP: Gov. Supports Medical Marijuana Bill 
Wednesday, February 01, 2006    SANTA FE — Gov. Bill Richardson expressed support Wednesday for a Senate-passed bill to legalize the medical use of marijuana.  Richardson said he would sign the legislation if it received final approval from the Legislature. The bill still must pass the House.  The measure would allow the use of marijuana for patients seriously ill with cancer, AIDS and some other illnesses.  "I think it will ease a lot of pain for a lot of people,'' Richardson said.  The bill has "strong safeguards,'' the governor said.  Under the Senate-passed measure, the Health Department would establish a system for patients to obtain marijuana. Patients could not grow it themselves. The agency would be responsible for licensing marijuana providers or marijuana-growing facilities.  A doctor or other health care provider would certify to the department that someone suffers from a qualifying illness, including cancer, glaucoma, epilepsy, multiple sclerosis, HIV-AIDS and certain spinal cord injuries. Copyright: 2006 Associated Presshttp://www.abqjournal.com/news/xgr/apbill02-01-06.htm
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Comment #27 posted by John Tyler on February 01, 2006 at 19:03:56 PT

Toke00
That was great. Just like a sage. I seems you know where it's at. Keep up the good thoughts. 
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Comment #26 posted by whig on February 01, 2006 at 18:20:17 PT

Judge the Tree
By its Fruit.
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Comment #25 posted by Toker00 on February 01, 2006 at 18:09:25 PT

Sent Mr. Loudat an E-mail.
It just totally amazes me how these "PEOPLE OF GOD" turn their backs on Nature, and embrace the laws/will of man. This man is a prime example of how the Disobedient Christian "Religion" has created it's own God: The Federal Government. Are there going to be some disappointed Baptists, Methodists, Catholics, etc. or what???I don't think I'll get a response from Mr. Loudat. His E-mail is probably screened to prevent any post containing the words cannabis/hemp from getting through. After all, it's "marijuana" we're talking about here, right? The "Devil's" weed? (Even though Lucifer can't create sh*t) Cannabis/hemp seems to not be taught in (Christian) Religion, though many references to it exist, proving it DESERVES to be taught there. No one (Christians) teaches reencarnacion either, though we have as many lives as there are leaves on a tree, in my belief. How can anyone learn all there is to know about life, in one short life-span? Our spirits journey began a looooonnnnngg time ago. These biological bodies are as temporary as a breath of air. Each life is a chance for the spirit to ascend to a higher level, but also a chance to stumble, and fall. We will know every possible human life scenario by the time we deserve to see the face of God. We will have lived as every race and both sexes. We will know Poverty, and we will know Wealth, and all levels in between. We will visit every planet not only in this Galaxy, but in all of Creation. These earthly lives are but training wheels for what lies in store for each soul that God Created.That was fun. Thanks in great part by that wonderful little bud that sacrificed itself for my enlightenment. Thank you Creator for Cannabis. Wage peace on war. END CANNABIS PROHIBITION NOW! 
 
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Comment #24 posted by siege on February 01, 2006 at 18:00:30 PT

Southern Baptist Convention
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Comment #23 posted by The GCW on February 01, 2006 at 17:22:43 PT

FoM, #16,
FoM,Thanks for posting the Babtist story. I think the Bible's mission is different...Satin is pleased with John Loudat, I’m sure.It seems the Bible addresses this spicific type of preacher in Malachi 1:6-14 even indicating what this man is doing is literally the sin of the priests.Sin of the Priests  http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=46&chapter=1&version=49 6" 'A son honors his father, and a servant his master Then if I am a father, where is My honor? And if I am a master, where is My respect?' says the LORD of hosts to you, O priests who despise My name. But you say, 'How have we despised Your name?' 
 7"You are presenting defiled food upon My altar But you say, 'How have we defiled You?' In that you say, 'The table of the LORD is to be despised.' 
 8"But when you present the blind for sacrifice, is it not evil? And when you present the lame and sick, is it not evil? Why not offer it to your governor? Would he be pleased with you? Or would he receive you kindly?" says the LORD of hosts. 
 9"But now will you not entreat God's favor, that He may be gracious to us? With such an offering on your part, will He receive any of you kindly?" says the LORD of hosts. 
 10"Oh that there were one among you who would shut the gates, that you might not uselessly kindle fire on My altar! I am not pleased with you," says the LORD of hosts, "nor will I accept an offering from you. 
 11"For from the rising of the sun even to its setting, My name will be great among the nations, and in every place incense is going to be offered to My name, and a grain offering that is pure; for My name will be great among the nations," says the LORD of hosts. 
 12"But you are profaning it, in that you say, 'The table of the Lord is defiled, and as for its fruit, its food is to be despised.' 
 13"You also say, 'My, how tiresome it is!' And you disdainfully sniff at it," says the LORD of hosts, "and you bring what was taken by robbery and what is lame or sick; so you bring the offering! Should I receive that from your hand?" says the LORD. 
 14"But cursed be the swindler who has a male in his flock and vows it, but sacrifices a blemished animal to the Lord, for I am a great King," says the LORD of hosts, "and My name is feared among the nations."-0-Romans 14:15-16. Principles of Conscience15For if because of food your brother is hurt, you are no longer walking according to love Do not destroy with your food him for whom Christ died. 
 16Therefore do not let what is for you a good thing be spoken of as evil; -0-1 John 3:17, Children of God Love One Another17But whoever has the world's goods, and sees his brother in need and closes his heart against him, how does the love of God abide in him?-0-1 Timothy 4:1-5,  ApostasyBut the Spirit explicitly says that in later times some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons, 
 2by means of the hypocrisy of liars seared in their own conscience as with a branding iron, 
 3men who forbid marriage and advocate abstaining from foods which God has created to be gratefully shared in by those who believe and know the truth. 
 4For (everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with gratitude; 
 5for it is sanctified by means of the word of God and prayer. -0-Genesis 1:11-12 & 29-30, The Creation (last but 1st! LITERALLY THE VERY 1ST PAGE OF THE BIBLE!!!&!)Then God said, "Let the earth sprout vegetation, plants yielding seed, and fruit trees on the earth bearing fruit after their kind with seed in them"; and it was so. 
 12The earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed after their kind, and trees bearing fruit with seed in them, after their kind; and God saw that it was good. &29Then God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you; 
 30and to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the sky and to every thing that moves on the earth which has life, I have given every green plant for food"; and it was so. 

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Comment #22 posted by lombar on February 01, 2006 at 17:13:46 PT

Whig
It seems that I share your problem on my Mac. Audio only, it must be a newer revsion of Flash that has no available version for *nix... yet ;)
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Comment #21 posted by whig on February 01, 2006 at 16:43:41 PT

lombar
Got all that, but I think he used a newer rev of Flash.
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Comment #20 posted by OverwhelmSam on February 01, 2006 at 16:43:19 PT

I See The Religious Fanatics Are Up In Arms
Here come the religious hoards preaching about how bad marijuana is and how good it is to lock up the their own members over pot use. How many Baptist do you suppose are locked up over weed?
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Comment #19 posted by lombar on February 01, 2006 at 16:30:10 PT

Whig
"I get audio, no video, but I'm running Ubuntu GNU/Linux, not Windows"I looked at the page and it seems to be a flash movie. In Ubuntu, you would need to install Firefox + Macromedia Flash Player + Mozilla Flash Plugin.They should be available in the Synaptic/kynaptic/adept (or apt-get) software repositories. I was using (k)Ubuntu for about 6 months but I replaced the computer.
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Comment #18 posted by whig on February 01, 2006 at 15:43:37 PT

John Loudat
6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.
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Comment #17 posted by Hope on February 01, 2006 at 15:21:36 PT

Oh my Lord!
She says as she reaches to rip her Baptist badge from her own chest.
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Comment #16 posted by FoM on February 01, 2006 at 14:48:08 PT

Related News Article from The Baptist Press
FIRST-PERSON: On Medicinal Marijuana***By John Loudat, Baptist Press February 01, 2006ALBUQUERQUE, N.M. (BP) -- Many observers, myself included, were surprised when New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson announced recently that he wanted our state legislature to legalize the use of “medical marijuana,” during this year’s short, 30-day legislative session which ends Feb. 16. And I was very disappointed when I heard that a medical marijuana bill passed the New Mexico Senate Jan. 31 by a vote of 34-6. The state Senate previously passed the bill last year when it was approved by two House committees. Thankfully, though, it died on the House floor when time ran out for the session. The governor has said that a “'substantial’ portion of the public agrees” with his recommendation, according to the Jan. 25 Albuquerque Journal. I have no doubt that there is some real truth in that statement. However, I pray that our legislators will quickly become convinced that a substantial portion of the public -- including members of the state’s second-largest faith group, Baptists -- oppose it.Until it’s law, let’s do everything we can to oppose it.Why?Just this past June, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that the federal government could prosecute people who use marijuana for medical purposes even in the 10 states that currently allow it. (You might want to note that the number of states that don’t allow it outnumber those that do by 4-1.) That’s why district attorneys and police agencies oppose it. It is perfectly understandable that many of us envision an explosion of criminal activity in our state if this passes. Associate Justice John Paul Stevens, writing for the Supreme Court, said, “The exemption for cultivation by patients and caregivers can only increase the supply of marijuana in the California market. The likelihood that all such production will promptly terminate when patients recover or will precisely match the patient’s medical needs during their convalescence seems remote; whereas the danger that excesses will satisfy some of the admittedly enormous demand for recreational use seems obvious.”Supporting the high court’s ruling were Associate Justices Antonin Scalia, Anthony Kennedy, David Souter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer. Opposing it were then-Chief Justice William Rehnquist and Associate Justices Clarence Thomas and Sandra Day O’Connor. The bottom line is, “Federal agents may arrest even sick people who use the drug as well as the people who grow pot for them” (Associated Press story in the Albuquerque Journal, June 7, 2005).Besides all that, marijuana is just plain bad news. According to the Office of National Drug Control Policy/Partnership for a Drug-Free America, today’s marijuana is twice as powerful as it was only two decades ago. And those who use it experience:-- “decreased ability to learn,-- “impaired judgment about driving or sex,-- “symptoms of depression, even thoughts of suicide,-- “breathing problems,-- “greater exposure to cancerous chemicals than from tobacco,-- “increased likelihood of using even more dangerous drugs.”The National Institute of Health said a few years ago, “There is no scientifically sound evidence that smoked marijuana is medically superior to currently available therapies.” There still isn’t. And Richard Land, president of the Southern Baptist Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission, said, “There must be a 50-state-wide standard, not a patchwork quilt of various exceptions in differing states. Marijuana is extremely addictive and is virtually 100 percent a gateway drug to even more harmful illicit and illegal drugs.”If we have genuine “compassion” for those suffering from debilitating illnesses, we’ll oppose this bill that flies in the face of good federal law.The most-recent effort to legalize the use of “medical marijuana” began in 1999. Supporters believe if they just keep bringing it up year after year after year after year, the opposition will grow tired and let them have what they want. Sadly, history has proven them right. The only problem with that is that it would be, for us, an act of disobedience to our God, who says in His Word, “Let us not become weary in doing good..” (Galatians 6:9a NIV).John Loudat is editor of the Baptist New Mexican, the newsjournal of the Baptist Convention of New Mexico, online at: http://www.bcnm.com/ministries/communication/index.html  
 
 Copyright: 2006 Southern Baptist Convention, Baptist Press 
http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?ID=22572
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Comment #15 posted by FoM on February 01, 2006 at 13:51:47 PT

museman 
It is a great movie. I'm not sure if I got to the end. I'll tell you where it stopped. When they were talking about the kite string.
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Comment #14 posted by whig on February 01, 2006 at 13:50:42 PT

museman
I get audio, no video, but I'm running Ubuntu GNU/Linux, not Windows.I'll try it on my wife's computer later, we keep that one running Windows because she needs it for some of her work.
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Comment #13 posted by FoM on February 01, 2006 at 13:10:18 PT

museman
Thank you, It is excellent!
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Comment #12 posted by museman on February 01, 2006 at 13:03:46 PT:

Sigh of Relief!
Finally!!Now I have so much work to do!evrybody enjoy.
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Comment #11 posted by FoM on February 01, 2006 at 13:01:43 PT

museman 
I re-booted and it's working great! Thanks!
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Comment #10 posted by museman on February 01, 2006 at 12:56:52 PT:

Flash Video
I tried it on 2 other machines, one XP the other '98. Both worked. On the '98 I had to install the player, but then after a few seconds it started. 
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Comment #9 posted by FoM on February 01, 2006 at 12:48:46 PT

museman 
I have a satellite but I'm not sure what my connection is. I will try again. Maybe I should re-boot and come in fresh since I have done lots of things today. I'll go do that and try again.
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Comment #8 posted by cloud7 on February 01, 2006 at 12:46:22 PT

Thanks FoM
That's good!
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Comment #7 posted by museman on February 01, 2006 at 12:41:31 PT:

flash video
What is your connection? Maybe you have to wait a few for enough of the video to downlaod before it starts playing. Did you get a white or black screen?
Testing on another machine...
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Comment #6 posted by FoM on February 01, 2006 at 12:36:09 PT

museman 
I installed what it asked and the audio starts but no video shows up.
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Comment #5 posted by museman on February 01, 2006 at 12:28:38 PT:

Let My People Grow
Is now available online to view.I crashed a server, nearly got myself banned from my own domain, and spent 2 days doing it, but here it is...http://www.terryhubbard.com/Let/LetMyPeopleGrow.htmlJerry's page is also back uphttp://www.terryhubbard.com/JPlease let me know if anyone has any trouble viewing the flash, I sure had enough trouble making it work!
http://wholeearthfamily.org
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Comment #4 posted by FoM on February 01, 2006 at 12:26:46 PT

cloud7 
Since's it's one I must snip posting this way can tell others what's it's about. I had seen it but I hadn't posted it. Thanks.
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Comment #3 posted by FoM on February 01, 2006 at 12:25:24 PT

Snipped Source: LA Times
His Cup Runneth Over With Annoyance***By Matt Welch, Matt Welch is assistant editorial page editor at The Times.January 29, 2006 The Newspaper you are reading has been lovingly compiled by hundreds of humans who urinated into plastic measuring cups for the privilege of bringing it to you.I gather this is not widely known among readers, judging by the reaction from those I've told. "Why would the L.A. Times care whether you've smoked pot?" goes the typical response. It doesn't help with the comprehension that it's not immediately evident that anyone here actually does.  
Yet it's been company policy for at least 18 years that every new hire excrete on command while a rubber-gloved nurse waits outside with her ear plastered to the door. Those who test positive for illegal drugs don't get their promised job, on grounds that someone who can't stay off the stuff long enough to pass a one-time, advance-notice screening might have a problem. (And yes, it has happened in the newsroom a handful of times.) This despite the fact that we generally don't operate machinery heavier than a coffee pot, aren't likely to sell our secrets to blackmailing Russkies and are supposed to be at least theoretically representative of typical Americans. Because guess what? The typical American — and just about every journalist I've ever asked — has already tried marijuana at least once before the age of 25, according to the government's National Survey on Drug Use and Health. What's more, despite 35 years and billions of dollars' worth of taxpayer-financed propaganda to the contrary, most of those who've inhaled didn't collapse through the "gateway" into desperate heroin addiction or "Traffic"-style sex slavery. George W. Bush turned out all right (at least on paper), as did Al Gore, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Bill Walton, Michael Bloomberg and millions more. 
Complete Article: http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/sunday/commentary/la-op-welch29jan29,0,5139780.story
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Comment #2 posted by cloud7 on February 01, 2006 at 11:52:47 PT

Sorry if it was already posted
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Comment #1 posted by cloud7 on February 01, 2006 at 11:52:01 PT

Must read from the latimes
His cup runneth over with annoyancehttp://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/sunday/commentary/la-op-welch29jan29,0,5139780.story?coll=la-sunday-commentary
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