Legislature Assembles Evidence Against Marijuana

Legislature Assembles Evidence Against Marijuana
Posted by CN Staff on June 01, 2005 at 07:22:35 PT
By Timothy Inklebarger, The Associated Press 
Source: Anchorage Daily News
Juneau, Alaska -- Possession of small amounts of marijuana at home for personal use will soon be challenged by the state, based on a body of information being compiled by the Legislature. A proposal by Gov. Frank Murkowski seeks to increase the penalties for marijuana use and possession. It also opens a forum for lawmakers to hear "expert testimony on the effects of marijuana and to make findings that the courts can rely on in cases where marijuana is an issue," according to the governor.
Murkowski proposed companion anti-marijuana bills in the House and Senate this year, but neither made it to their respective bodies for a vote. This year was the first of the Legislature's two-year session, so bills stay alive through the end of 2006.The Alaska Supreme Court made possession of up to four ounces of marijuana for use at home by adults legal in 1975 in the landmark Ravin vs. state of Alaska decision. The ruling said the state must show a substantial relationship between private use of marijuana and the public welfare."It appears there is no firm evidence that marijuana, as presently used in this country, is generally a danger to the user or to others," according to court records. "But neither is there conclusive evidence to the effect that it is harmless."Chief assistant attorney general Dean Guaneli said times have changed. Marijuana is more potent now than in the 1970s and used increasingly by youths, he said. The state plans to use information presented in committee when it challenges another marijuana possession case."We believe the courts are going to give that (information) great weight when another case comes before them that challenges the state's marijuana laws," he said.The American Civil Liberties Union of Alaska says there is not enough of a compelling state interest to take away an individual's privacy rights.Bill: Governor hopes to raise penalties for use and possession. Snipped:Complete Article: MayanSource: Anchorage Daily News (AK)Author: Timothy Inklebarger, The Associated Press Published: June 1st, 2005Copyright: 2005 The Anchorage Daily News Contact: letters Website: Related Articles & Web Site:Regulate Marijuana in Alaska Bill is Out of Time Marijuana Myths Cloud Good Sense Misrepresenting Effects of Marijuana
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Comment #28 posted by AOLBites on June 02, 2005 at 13:33:59 PT
have you looked at publishing the CRL? fairly affordable and it would have a hell of an impact landing on someones desk =P bet you would have to go multi volume though.. 500 page max per volume there...
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Comment #27 posted by The GCW on June 01, 2005 at 18:57:02 PT
Frank Murkowski is a CERTIFIED CANNABIS NAZI.A freedom Nazi.The guy can't sleep knowing someone may be using cannabis in the privacy of their own home and Him not be able to do anything about it.
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Comment #26 posted by FoM on June 01, 2005 at 18:27:34 PT
New Message Board for Weeds from Showtime
WEEDS looks at "typical" family life in the suburban neighborhood of Agrestic, California, where recently-widowed Nancy Botwin (MARY-LOUISE PARKER) plays referee to a circle of dysfunctional suburbanites who assemble at weekend soccer matches, PTA meetings, and many other domestic rituals of everyday life. Left with more family debt than she expected, Nancy finds it hard making ends meet while raising her two sons, so she's recently become a very successful neighborhood door-to-door salesman. But not for Mary Kay cosmetics or Tupperware. No, Nancy is selling pot -- and it's a business that is booming.
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Comment #25 posted by OverwhelmSam on June 01, 2005 at 18:23:08 PT
Is There No End To The Morons In Charge?
Look Gov, legalize marijuana and perhaps the manisfestations of the drug prohibition will go away. The manisfestations I speak of are crack, meth, pharmaceuticals, inhalants, and who knows what other devastating drug will be produced in the future. Sure, people are smoking less pot, but look at what they're taking now! Hello, is there anybody in there?Let us have our weed.Overwhelm Uncle Sam
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Comment #24 posted by global_warming on June 01, 2005 at 18:07:42 PT
This old highway is getting longer
Ole Garth, sings in our digital sphere, Im much too young to feel this damn old, all my cards or on the table, and like that Murkowski boy, Alaska, somewhere we will urinate together, in the some mens room, and by your next pleasure, the sounds of our common experience will sour and remind, how your son is in prison, your daughter a prostitute, and our forgotten excuses and plea bargained existence..
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Comment #23 posted by global_warming on June 01, 2005 at 17:08:11 PT
The Shadows
Much like animals, who remain in shadow, the hands of justice and compassion, reach for the light, and that light is found in the night sky, and that infinity, contrasts our faith, that this whole world,is but one small infinity of Gods world, and this awesome night sky, sings to us, and sparkles and reflects, our place in this lighted world.Peacegw
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Comment #22 posted by global_warming on June 01, 2005 at 16:21:53 PT
It is not about oil
The roots of this godless persuit of power, has found oil and any victimless pursuit that will not block them from feeding, upon this world.Starvation, is a terrible way to die, like gas in a chamber, and those that march in lockstep, supporting these modern gas chambers, blindfoldedly hasten, the silence that will deafen their Eternity.This, old, our only world, may we approach it with understanding, may we bring our our compassion, our wisdom, that our children, may look at each others faces and see us, those old and forgotten faces, and see and understand, the many who have lived and died, for the sake of "FREEDOM",....Peacegw
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Comment #21 posted by FoM on June 01, 2005 at 14:30:54 PT
Off Topic But Interesting I Believe
I get this web sites list in my email and I thought this might interest some here.Long Day's Journey Into Night
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Comment #20 posted by global_warming on June 01, 2005 at 14:12:13 PT
"Dutch start voting on EU treaty "...the early results indicate, that by an overwhelming number the Netherlands have said no to the EU Constitution.The Preamble of the Constitution reads like a "who's who" in the finest circles, :HIS MAJESTY THE KING OF THE BELGIANS, THE PRESIDENT OF THE CZECH REPUBLIC, HER MAJESTY THE QUEEN OF DENMARK, THE PRESIDENT OF THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF GERMANY, THE PRESIDENT OF THE REPUBLIC OF ESTONIA, THE PRESIDENT OF THE HELLENIC REPUBLIC,...Article I-2 The Union's valuesThe Union is founded on the values of respect for human dignity, freedom, democracy, equality, the rule of law and respect for human rights, including the rights of persons belonging to minorities. These values are common to the Member States in a society in which pluralism, non-discrimination, tolerance, justice, solidarity and equality between women and men prevail...
..There is one term that is frequently used both here in the US and in Europe, "the rule of law", it reminds me of the terms used "to protect the children", I imagine that they are easily exchangeable.When I read how Arthur Anderson has escaped justice, in handled a large part of the financial accounting for Enron. The Houston-based energy company collapsed in late 2001, following allegations of widespread financial mismanagement...Andersen Inc. itself is now nearly defunct, with only about 200 employees left, mostly handling pending legal matters. The company was once one of the top accounting companies in the United States, with 28,000 employees in the United States handling hundreds of top corporate auditing accounts....Enron's bankruptcy causes aftershocks on Main Street, Wall Street and in WashingtonThe collapse of Enron, the largest bankruptcy in U.S. history, led to thousands of employees losing their life savings in 401(k) plans tied to the energy company's stock.
..Lets not forget how grandma and grandpa was exploited by these Enron executives and how these men and women in the highest court of this civilized world, said..In the ruling, Rehnquist noted prosecutors should have been more careful in its pursuit of Andersen...The opinion came unusually quickly after oral arguments in the case were held April 27.--Getting back to that rule of law point, The law has always been a very important component of all human beings, it is the core of civilized peoples, and has been our only guiding light, that has been given us from God.Whenever the law is compromised, there usually are fatal consequences. When someone tries to mock the law, or use the law, they always taste a bitter end...The Rule Of Law, means that Truth and Justice, will protect every living soul in our world, it does not mean that the law can be used to capitalize or, own living things, The early evidence from Europe, indicates, that the rule of law, no longer represents Truth and Justice, much like here in our United States, for the bargains of Enron and A Anderson reveal the greedy in their feeding spots, and such diseased human beings, belong in the spotlight, that reveals the cockroaches secretly feeding in the shadows of our world...I hope these old and tired Justices find a path to redemption, for while they struggle for balance and wisdom, may they be reminded of how many people they have forced into their caverns, how they have contributed to making this world of ours, a living hell.--This drug war, has been around for about 70 years, unlike the short alcohol prohibition, and the fall of communism, these men and women (justices) who aspire to global history, might read about sacrifice and martyrs, and forget not that the rule of law, to many, is an agreement to their indenture, it is a statement that reminds them, that they are only slaves, before one agrees to put ones head on the chopping block, may he witness his accuser? May he understand why his "FREEDOM" is taken from him?..Peace and Understandinggw
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Comment #19 posted by john wayne on June 01, 2005 at 13:42:07 PT
Nothing going on in Alaska?
Nothing for gov't blowhards to do? No legislative challenges, no debates about resources, taxes, tourism, whatever?Enough time to waste on something as unproductive as cannabis prohibition? This governor is a clown, plain and simple. How did he ever get elected?
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Comment #18 posted by Dankhank on June 01, 2005 at 12:26:46 PT
Briar Patch ...
kapt.Former Gov. Walters of Okla. was running for Senate against Inhofe, I think 2002, when I confronted him for the second time with a sixty-page printout of the index of the Cannabis Research Library.He asked, "Is that a hard copy of the disc?" I replied,"No sir, I don't have that much paper, this is a printout of the table of contents. It is sixty pages long."His asst. was standing behind him chuckling and I saw a wonderous puzzlement on his, Walters', face.
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Comment #17 posted by jose melendez on June 01, 2005 at 11:51:11 PT
pen is mighty 
pen is mighty and
your fingers do the walking
ask to submit files Kirsten Waid, Senate Secretary	
Phone 465-3701	Fax 465-2832	Capitol, Room 213	  Senate Sergeant-At-Arms Phone 465-4987	 	Senate Chamber	 Senate Records	Phone 465-2870	Fax 465-2931	Terry Miller Bldg., Rm 226	 Senate Finance Secretary	Phone 465-4935	Fax 465-2187	Capitol, Rm. 520
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Comment #16 posted by stoner spirit on June 01, 2005 at 11:25:52 PT:
Bah, him again!
That's what I thought, it looks like we are going to try to get this stuff into his head again, if possible. I don't know, but something has to be done with this guy, to make him see the truth about the good herb.
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Comment #15 posted by runderwo on June 01, 2005 at 11:08:34 PT
"Increased potency"Sometimes you want a pint of beer, sometimes you want a glass of brandy."For the children"Eliminating the black market by establishing a regulated cannabis market would do more for the children than putting their parents in jail.
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Comment #14 posted by Dan B on June 01, 2005 at 10:49:07 PT
Sounds That Way To Me, Too, Hope
It certainly does sound to me like the governor is deliberately stacking the deck so that anyone who does not agree with him that cannabis should be illegal is not going to have a voice.There is a very good back door option to counter this strategy: find at least one Alaska legislator who is willing to present the facts--the real facts, and not the trumped-up baloney that the governor wants the legislature to hear. Then arm that legislator with all of the studies previously mentioned by kaptinemo. Legislators will have opportunities to ask questions, and in so doing they can present background material for those questions. Bring in a few boxes of studies showing the positive effects of cannabis, and you have a visual aid that will be difficult to forget.Anyone know any Alaska legislators?Dan B
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Comment #13 posted by FoM on June 01, 2005 at 10:34:02 PT
Thank you. 
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Comment #12 posted by jose melendez on June 01, 2005 at 10:07:29 PT
evidence against anti-marijuana propaganda Several studies have shown that DARE is ineffective and may even prove counter-productive. Still, as The Denver Post noted, "It is now taught in 75 percent of school districts nationwide and in 54 other countries."
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Comment #11 posted by jose melendez on June 01, 2005 at 10:01:58 PT
har de har
aha! I figured out I must have a sort of keyboard tourette's syndrome. Not really, I just always wanted to say har de har har . . . - - -ABC News: DARE is complete, utter failure . . DARE AGREES:Article was relocated (purged, deleted, hidden, obscured, erased, whatever) from ABC News' server, archived here:
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Comment #10 posted by jose melendez on June 01, 2005 at 09:52:03 PT
they know ads increase youth abuse
Dare they dar use this as evidence?
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Comment #9 posted by Dankhank on June 01, 2005 at 09:50:42 PT
Yes, and you got the spirit of it nailed ...I'm searching, it may have been Einstein who said it ...The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.
Benjamin Franklin, still smarter than most politicians ...CRLs are mailed, if come crunched, please advise ...should be OK, I experiment with different ways to mail inexpensive, but successful ...Peace to all who educate ...
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Comment #8 posted by Hope on June 01, 2005 at 09:13:28 PT
Only government shills allowed?
I suspect all testimony outside the government shills will be barred from the next round and they will likely be specifically ordered to ignore all dissenting previous testimony. This time, only the government "experts" will be heard. That's what it sounds like. They're being very careful to stack the deck this time and keep it stacked in their favor. They'll keep the public and anyone who disagrees with a carefully chosen group of "experts" out of the testimony, in order to prevent it's being "contaminated" by anything other than their choice of "experts". "It also opens a forum for lawmakers to hear "expert testimony on the effects of marijuana and to make findings that the courts can rely on in cases where marijuana is an issue," according to the governor."
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Comment #7 posted by Toker00 on June 01, 2005 at 09:13:15 PT
Re-call the governor...
Is re-call a posibility for this Anti? California did it for other reasons. Would it work here, and are there enough money available to do this? Re-call ALL anti's that go against the will of the people to re-legalize cannabis!Peace. Legalize, then Revolutionize!(medicine)(energy)(nutrition)
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Comment #6 posted by runruff on June 01, 2005 at 09:02:51 PT:
Let's see......................
Maui Wowie, Alcapolco Gold, Thai- sticks, Panama Red,is a partial list of some of the good stuff that has been around since the early 60's. About 1975 I was introduced to "Skunk", Indica. [1966-1986], More youngsters were expiermenting with the herb than at any other time in history. These guys will say anything to make their point. Whats more, why do they care at all? 
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Comment #5 posted by kaptinemo on June 01, 2005 at 08:37:36 PT:
"Please, Br'er Bear, don't throw me into
that briar patch!"Oh, man. This guy is so dumb, he doesn't know when he's been maneuvered into a blind alley.Regulars will remember my suggestion of printing out each and every study in which cannabis has proven effective and safe remedy for various conditions, some life threatening (and let's not forget the anti-cancer studies of the U of Va, Complutense University of Madrid and the University of Milan).Print them up, single sheet, and all totalled they should weigh over a hundred pounds. Drop each one in the lap of the antis, one-by-one. Truth for lie. Bang, bang, bang, down they drop, getting heavier and heavier and heavier.Governor Murkowski thinks he can diddy-bop into a court and come out with a soft, easy victory. But if he is going to make statements IN A COURT OF LAW UNDER OATH he'd better think twice. For both his arrogance and his ignorance will be torn to shreds by any competent attorney armed with these facts.
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Comment #4 posted by jose melendez on June 01, 2005 at 08:22:29 PT
times have changed, truth has not
"Dean Guaneli said times have changed. Marijuana is more potent now than in the 1970s and used increasingly by youths, he said"See: Objection, Asked and Answered - - -Surely most activists welcome a 'forum for lawmakers to hear "expert testimony on the effects of marijuana and to make findings that the courts can rely on in cases where marijuana is an issue,"Fortunately, such fraud has been outed in public: 
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Comment #3 posted by FoM on June 01, 2005 at 08:12:11 PT
Isn't there an expression about what is insanity? Something like if you keep doing something over and over again and keep getting the same results.
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Comment #2 posted by Dankhank on June 01, 2005 at 08:04:07 PT
I don't know ...
I would imagine that there is massive pressure from outside of Alaska on the Governor.He isn't too popular IN Alaska, either ...Hence the maniac push to try to be seen doing something for Alaska. I hope noone buys his crap ...It's lies, lies, and more lies ...  
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Comment #1 posted by FoM on June 01, 2005 at 07:52:52 PT
I Thought This Was Over
I thought we won this one for at least a year. What is driving this Governor?
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