cannabisnews.com: It Isn't Reefer Madness It Isn't Reefer Madness Posted by CN Staff on January 29, 2005 at 12:23:53 PT A Register-Guard Editorial Source: Register-Guard The popularity of Oregon's medical marijuana program is being read as confirmation of its success, and as proof of its vulnerability to abuse. There are causes for concern, but none for alarm. The state is not in the grip of reefer madness. According to the state Department of Human Services' quarterly report on the medical marijuana program, nearly 10,000 people have been issued cards allowing them or their caregivers to grow small amounts of marijuana for personal use in the treatment of chronic pain, nausea or other conditions. That's many more than was predicted when voters approved the medical marijuana law in 1998. Two physicians account for nearly half the medical marijuana cards issued in the state.Those are troubling pieces of information. The department's report implies that a few doctors will sign a medical marijuana card application for anyone who asks. Under those circumstances, it's a safe bet that more than a few of the nearly 10,000 cardholders are citing vague or non-existent medical problems as cover for recreational marijuana use. Yet there's also evidence that the medical marijuana law is being widely used as intended. The department reports that 1,576 doctors have signed applications for medical marijuana cards. Toss out the two who have signed 4,579 between them, and those that remain have signed an average of three applications apiece. This suggests that an overwhelming majority of Oregon physicians are cautious about allowing their patients to gain access to medical marijuana. At the same time, it shows that hundreds of physicians recognize that marijuana has unique palliative value for some patients. What's more, two doctors have been disciplined by the Oregon Board of Medical Examiners after signing thousands of medical marijuana card applications. It's likely that these are the two responsible for nearly half the cards issued in Oregon, though it's impossible to be certain - the state does not identify physicians participating in the medical marijuana program. In any case, the state has shown an ability to police the application process and has probably already dealt with its high-volume application signers. Oregon's medical marijuana law isn't easy to use. A doctor must attest that the patient has a "debilitating medical condition" such as AIDS or cancer, or is suffering from such symptoms as severe pain, nausea or muscle spasms. No trafficking in marijuana is allowed; a cardholder or a caregiver may possess no more than three mature and four immature marijuana plants. These limits ensure that any abuses will be on a small scale. In November voters defeated a proposal to loosen the medical review and increase the quantities that cardholders may legally possess. Giving patients access to a drug that many claim is uniquely effective has not opened the doors to unrestricted marijuana use or possession. At a time when the state is battling a methamphetamine epidemic, any abuses that have occurred in the medical marijuana program do not rank among the state's most serious drug problems. Oregonians should keep an eye on the medical marijuana program, but for now, no urgent action is required. Complete Title: It Isn't Reefer Madness: Oregonians Using Medical Marijuana LawSource: Register-Guard, The (OR) Published: January 29, 2005Copyright: 2005 The Register-GuardContact: rgletters guardnet.comWebsite: http://www.registerguard.com/Related Articles & Web Site:Medicinal Cannabis Research Linkshttp://freedomtoexhale.com/research.htmMedical Marijuana Cards Abound http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread20153.shtmlMedicine or Menace?http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread19944.shtml Home Comment Email Register Recent Comments Help Comment #42 posted by FoM on January 31, 2005 at 10:29:58 PT afterburner We put on Live in Berlin from Neil Young's Trans Tour in 83. I'm watching but really listening to his song After Berlin. It's a beautiful song but it seems like that's where we are in time now. Tomorrow morning in old BerlinWhere they lock you outor lock you inhttp://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/neilyoung/afterberlin.html [ Post Comment ] Comment #41 posted by FoM on January 31, 2005 at 09:50:03 PT afterburner You'll enjoy it. It had great special effects and a good story. It showed the possible future for people who live there now. [ Post Comment ] Comment #40 posted by afterburner on January 31, 2005 at 09:40:23 PT RE Discovery Program. Pompeii: The Last Day I was too tired from work last night to watch or even tape the program, but I did a search and found it is being re-cablecast on Wed., Thu. and next Sun. If anyone else missed it, check your local listings. [ Post Comment ] Comment #39 posted by kaptinemo on January 31, 2005 at 07:33:40 PT: Unrelated, and absolutely hilarious Given all the bad news of late, when I found a link to this at Loretta Nall's Website http://usmjparty.blogspot.com/ , I figured I'd share it. Man peed way out of avalanche http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_1261997.html?menuThey say necessity is the mother of invention... [ Post Comment ] Comment #38 posted by FoM on January 31, 2005 at 07:10:35 PT It Really Was Good EJ I was impressed too. Great effects and an excellent story. [ Post Comment ] Comment #37 posted by E_Johnson on January 31, 2005 at 00:02:28 PT I'm watching it now FoM It's a brilliant production. [ Post Comment ] Comment #36 posted by FoM on January 30, 2005 at 20:32:36 PT afterburner Were watching a Discovery Channel Program. It's called Pompeii: The Last Day. Great special effects.I agree with you not to worry. What is out of our hands is out of our hands. If we become afraid or worry too much it will effect us and it becomes counter productive. http://dsc.discovery.com/convergence/pompeii/index.html [ Post Comment ] Comment #35 posted by afterburner on January 30, 2005 at 20:16:42 PT Nice Metaphor, gw "fall back and rest in the hands of this universe."This is one of my themes today. Here are some hymns that promote the same view: Simply Trusting Every Day; Fight the Good Fight; and My Shepherd Is the King of Love. Another scripture recommending the same idea: "Therefore, my beloved brothers stand firm and immovable, and work for the Lord always, work without limit, since you know that in the Lord your labour cannot be lost. I Corinthians 15:58 [ Post Comment ] Comment #34 posted by waynerson on January 30, 2005 at 19:51:20 PT: Left Leaning Paper from Eugene,DOES'NT GET IT! Wow What the article fails to point out is that if the people seeking the Medical Marijuana Card DID NOT QUAlIFY for the program with a VALID ILLNESS, The State Of Oregon would NOT ISSUE THE CARD! As a patient, I know you can't just say oh I have an illness,Give me a card please.You must prove beyond any shadow of a doubt that you have a chronic, painful illness and that it will never get better,or the State void your request.I wish the the media as a whole,would collectivly,PULL THERE HEAD OUT! [ Post Comment ] Comment #33 posted by global_warming on January 30, 2005 at 17:26:48 PT re: 28:Cut off the head and two heads will surface "Now the Shiites will have the power in Iran and Iraq. All day I was thinking about it all and a thought kept going thru my head. Cut off the head and two heads will surface. That's not exactly right but hopefully you'll understand what I mean."It has been understood, that their differences hinged on some fundamental argument or grievance, whether the direct decedents of Mohammed or the powerful people of that time, are the true decedents to the throne of power.Much like our own split over whether Peter is the first bishop or pope. It is the same exercise, different names, different hats.The secular or "cowboys" are very popular these days, yet any hope for a peaceful planet cannot be achieved by violence or wars.Everybody is so close to this shift in logic, the fruits on the vine are ripening, and harvest time is coming.gw [ Post Comment ] Comment #32 posted by siege on January 30, 2005 at 16:52:30 PT missed Gov't. unpopular American Gov't. [ Post Comment ] Comment #31 posted by siege on January 30, 2005 at 16:47:51 PT someone eles I will let someone eles have there say about the unpopular American “monstrously unjust and socially harmful” [ Post Comment ] Comment #30 posted by global_warming on January 30, 2005 at 16:33:08 PT siege Nicely said, but you missed an opportunity to compare our American liberals and conservatives in very much a similar struggle.I guess one either appreciates this magic world or one spends his whole life hating his neighbor, and misses so many chances to fall back and rest in the hands of this universe.gw [ Post Comment ] Comment #29 posted by siege on January 30, 2005 at 16:16:29 PT Just my though Both War's in Iraq and the up coming invasion of Iran. is nothing more then the"" war on Drugs"" The people of Iraq, Iran have used "hashish" for every. but the Sufis underlies the close association between the hashish and the Sufi movement in the Arab community. Wine was a luxury, the intoxicant of the rich; hashish was all the poor could afford. This War will be extended to that part of the world and any place that useds Indian Hemp, Cannabis In their heretical religious stance, and anyone that uses cannabis for any reason what so every. [ Post Comment ] Comment #28 posted by FoM on January 30, 2005 at 16:04:18 PT global_warming I have been doing my best to learn as much as I can about what is going on in Iraq. I don't think Bush wanted the religious Shiites to win but he wanted the secular people. Now the Shiites will have the power in Iran and Iraq. All day I was thinking about it all and a thought kept going thru my head. Cut off the head and two heads will surface. That's not exactly right but hopefully you'll understand what I mean. [ Post Comment ] Comment #27 posted by The GCW on January 30, 2005 at 16:01:12 PT And NOW Our next game show question! UK: 'Grandma Pat' Fights For Right To Put Cannabis In Her Co________ (BLANK -what)?1. corn bread2. cookies3 cocoaClick here to find the answer.http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n171/a05.html?397Thanks folks, thanks a lot.Please put the props down, please.Thanky You for playing.Thank You. [ Post Comment ] Comment #26 posted by global_warming on January 30, 2005 at 15:45:50 PT Want To See? " Rather than admit that the invasion of Iraq is a "Charlie Foxtrot", Bush and his pro-war advisors will continue to pour your money and your children into Iraq, because they have to stay in Iraq in order to move on to the invasion of Iran. And the justifications for invading Iran are, well, the same ones they used for Iraq, weapons of mass destruction, support for terror, yadda yadda yadda... The nation will slide more firmly into unpayable debt at the rate of $5 billion a month, to fight a war whose real purpose is being hidden from the American people whose money and children are being spent so profligately. Bush can't even keep the smirk off of his face any more. He knows he is lying. He knows you know he is lying. And he knows there isn't anything you will do about it. Most people don't have the courage to stand up to a corrupt war machine until after it is their own child lying in that box, and of course by then it is way too late...So, that's the bad news. The people the US invaded are getting better at killing our kids, who were sent off to invade Iraq for, well, we don't really know, do we? They are angry, and rightly so. The people of Iraq know they did not do any of the things Bush claimed they did to justify the war. Our troops know it too. Our kids KNOW they are the villains, and they have to fight that awareness while they fight the Iraqi people, the climate, and the lack of supplies. The war cannot be won because all the stated goals have been exposed as deceptions. And your kids are stuck there, dying, not because they can win, but because thay are just "placeholders", holding open the door to the invasion of Iran. "http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/thebadnews.htmlWhile back home, "FEARS that cosmetic implants used in lips and cheeks could trigger vCJD, the human form of “mad cow” disease, have prompted the Government to launch an investigation."...http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2-1461514,00.htmlI hope that when the mirrors crack, none of us get cut with all that falling glass..Mat 5:40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also. Mat 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. Luk 10:26 He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? Jam 2:11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. 2012 is being marked as the end of the "world" by many believers, I pray that in that year, there will some kind of miracle some kind of outside intervention that might stop this madness on our world.gw [ Post Comment ] Comment #25 posted by FoM on January 30, 2005 at 15:26:41 PT siege Thank you. That's what I wondered. [ Post Comment ] Comment #24 posted by siege on January 30, 2005 at 15:08:14 PT The Gardens of Cafour Shiites Cannabis The Gardens of CafourAlthough hashish was well known in the eastern Arab countries by the eleventh century A.D., it was not until the middle of the thirteenth century that it was introduced into Egypt. For this information, we are indebted to a Moslem botanist named Ibn al-Baytar (d. A.D. 1248). But Ali was not chosen. Instead, the office was given to an elderly man whom Mohammed had once asked to lead the daily prayers. This first caliph did not live very long, however, and a new successor had to be chosen. Again Ali was skipped over. Two more caliphs were elected before Ali was finally chosen in A.D. 656. Five years later he too was dead, the victim of a feud between Arab factions that supported him as caliph and those who refused to accept his appointment.The bloodletting associated with the succession issue eventually split Islam into two main sects, the Sunnis and the Shiites. The Sunnis saw themselves as the upholders of orthodoxy in Islam. They contended that the people had a right to elect whomever they wished to be caliph. The Shiites, on the other hand, insisted that the only legitimate successors were those in whom the blood of the Prophet himself flowed. This meant Ali and his descendants. Hashish and the Arab World: SummaryEvery culture has some kind of escape hatch, some ersatz respite from the overburdening realities of everyday existence. For over a thousand years, hashish has been this escape hatch for a large segment of Arab society.The earliest groups to use hashish on a large scale were the Sufis, an economically and socially despised sector of Moslem society, who justified their use of the drug, to themselves at least, as a way of communicating with their god. Curiously, the Arabs themselves have never regarded hashish as a drug which inspires violence. Perhaps the Arabs are simply too familiar with the actions of hashish to attribute violence to its seemingly endless list of effects. Yet in America, a country with a history of violence and little familiarity with cannabis as a mind-altering substance, hashish was to become known as the "killer drug".http://www.ukcia.org/research/abel/2.htm [ Post Comment ] Comment #23 posted by FoM on January 30, 2005 at 13:34:51 PT goneposthole Good songs! Enjoy and I'm sure you will! [ Post Comment ] Comment #22 posted by goneposthole on January 30, 2005 at 13:27:17 PT a little and lot off topic "Summer in the City"- The Lovin' Spoonful"California Dreamin'"- The Mommas and the Papas"If Six were Nine"- Jimi HendrixSome of my favorites whilst I have some sensimilla. [ Post Comment ] Comment #21 posted by FoM on January 30, 2005 at 12:36:30 PT JoeCitizen You're welcome. I'm glad we can help. We don't always agree but I appreciate that we try to get along. I've been trying to find out about Shiites and Cannabis use today. So far I haven't found enough to help me figure out if it is allowed or not allowed. Iran and Iraq will have a lot of power now and it is interesting to try to figure out more about the culture and what their religion allows. [ Post Comment ] Comment #20 posted by JoeCitizen on January 30, 2005 at 12:30:00 PT Thank you, FOM!! I really appreciated you posting link to the article about Sasha Shulgin. I know it's a little "off-topic" for cannabisnews, but we have many kindred spirits in the MDMA community, especially the people fighting for medical/therapeutic MDMA. It could help so many in this country, particularly the emotionally stunted and damaged types who seem to gravitate towards the seats of power in America.Thanks for that, and for everything you do here. I think I'd go crazy if couldn't read the positive words and good sense that so many post here every day.PeaceJC [ Post Comment ] Comment #19 posted by FoM on January 30, 2005 at 11:15:10 PT goneposthole It really is something that is going on now. I have watched the news into the night and since I got up this morning. It is the calm before the storm. I'm not afraid but I am aware. As things get worse Cannabis use will become more prevalent. People will need a little escapism just to cope. That's one of the things I believe that made marijuana use take off in America during the Vietnam War. [ Post Comment ] Comment #18 posted by goneposthole on January 30, 2005 at 10:53:51 PT reefer madness has morphed into 'reefer sadness' or 'reefer dumbness'. 420 thousand kilograms of pot seizures (har) is 926,520 pounds of cannabis (the total of Mexican and Columbian seizures ). At two grand per pound, thats about 2 billion dollars in pot imports each year that are seized. At a ten percent seizure rate, a lot of cannabis is making it to the 'market'. The NYSE wishes it had another 20 billion dollar company listed on its exchange with the profit margins cannabis has.A 2 billion dollar company on the Nasdaq or the NYSE is a 50 dollar stock at 40 million shares outstanding. It would definitely outshine PARS. Pharmos is looking pretty hapless these days at a buck a share and a lawsuit looming. It was pumped and dumped.There is a pall of gloom and doom over the US with the war in Iraq continuing unabated. The neocons learned a lot from the drug war and what people will tolerate. It isn't going to be good for the economy and cannabis sales and use will surge again. [ Post Comment ] Comment #17 posted by FoM on January 30, 2005 at 10:24:47 PT An Article on Ecstasy I thought some here might be interested in this article. Here it is.http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread20179.shtml [ Post Comment ] Comment #16 posted by FoM on January 30, 2005 at 09:58:24 PT Just a Note Hi Everyone,The news is slow but I'll keep looking. I hope everyone has a good day! [ Post Comment ] Comment #15 posted by afterburner on January 30, 2005 at 07:33:01 PT LOL "If the hideous monster Frankenstein came face to face with the monster of marijuana he would drop dead of fright."Harry J. AnslingerLOL, ROTFLMAOWhy do people still believe this rot???Reefer Madness - the Movie:"What follows, as if by natural progression, is a catalog of crimes that includes hit-and-run driving, loose morals, rape, murder, suicide, and my personal favorite, permanent insanity!"Notice how these same themes are recycled in ONDCP propaganda video commercials and in junk science studies!!! [ Post Comment ] Comment #14 posted by The GCW on January 30, 2005 at 06:08:03 PT The other border: Mexico... Mexico should be of greater concern. Yet We hear less of it.Bush often supports Mexico, but it seems false support... IS BUSH USING CANNADA TO TAKE ATTENTION AWAY FROM MEXICO?Things are bad in Mexico... but the propaganda is directed toward Cannada... what gives?Very bad: (Is this what Cannada wants?!) (Mexico, meet Canada; Canada, meet Mexico.)Pubdate: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 Source: San Jose Mercury News (CA)Mexico: MEXICO REBUKES U.S. FOR TRAVEL ALERT CANC=DAN, Mexico -- Mexican officials Thursday rebuked the United States for issuing a diplomatic alert about a wave of drug-related violence along the border in which a growing number of Americans have been kidnapped or killed. The State Department travel alert Wednesday said most Americans visit Mexico without mishap, but it warned of ``deteriorating security'' marked by a sharp increase in kidnappings and slayings that put Americans at greater risk. In a separate letter to Mexican officials, the U.S. ambassador, Tony Garza, expressed concern that state and local police on the Mexican side of the border had failed at ``coming to grips'' with the fighting among gangs struggling for control of the drug trade. And he wrote that violence could have a ``chilling effect on the cross-border exchange, tourism and commerce so vital to the region's prosperity.'' The letter stirred a storm in Mexico City, where the political classes remain extremely sensitive to any threat of U.S. intervention, about 150 years after the United States took over more than half of Mexico's territory. ``Mexico's fight against drug trafficking is firm,'' said a statement released Thursday by President Vicente Fox. ``The Mexican government does not admit judgment from any foreign government about political actions taken to confront its problems.'' High-level officials went on national television to defend Mexico's efforts to fight organized crime. Foreign Minister Luis Ernesto Derbez angrily dismissed Garza's letter as an exaggeration. And in an interview Thursday, Interior Minister Santiago Creel suggested that it had crossed diplomatic boundaries. Creel said that in recent years, Mexico and the United States had collaborated like never before to fight drug trafficking, and that Mexico had made unprecedented progress by putting some of this country's most wanted kingpins in jail. ``I'd like to see more kingpins in United States prisons,'' he said. But in recent weeks it has become clear that Mexican prisons have not confined the drug war as much as sheltered it. While new players have emerged along the border and begun a new fight for control, kingpins fight back from their prison cells, ordering assassinations and running their operations with the help of corrupt guards and prison administrators. Michael Yoder, the U.S. consul in Nuevo Laredo, warned last month that the number of Americans kidnapped and killed had risen from about three a year to more than 25 in the past six months. Then, shootings inside Mexico's toughest prison, La Palma, raised serious questions about Mexico's capacity to fight organized crime. Two weeks ago, federal authorities raided La Palma to take back control of the institution from incarcerated kingpins -- chiefly Benjamin Arellano F=E9lix, the head of the so-called Tijuana Cartel, and Osiel C=E1rdenas, the head of the Gulf Cartel. A week later, the bodies of six workers at a maximum-security prison in the city of Matamoros, just across the border from Brownsville, Texas, were found just outside the prison walls. They had been handcuffed, stuffed into a van and shot to death. Wednesday, about 650 federal agents stormed the Matamoros penitentiary and vowed to keep up their fight against organized crime. Meanwhile, in a press conference in Mexico City, the deputy secretary of public security, Miguel =C1ngel Yunes, said the government's worst enemy came from within. Searches of prison cells at La Palma, he said, made clear that kingpins had held complete control of the prison for most of the past three years. http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n168/a11.html?397 [ Post Comment ] Comment #13 posted by kaptinemo on January 30, 2005 at 04:23:07 PT: Unrelated to this: another propaganda blitz is on And now one Canuck LE agency is practically calling another a liar:CANADA NO. 1 SUPPLIER OF U.S. DOPE: CUSTOMS http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n162/a07.html?999*Canada is now the largest single supplier of pot, speed and steroids to the U.S., says a top customs official. American authorities are making more seizures both at and south of the border, says George Webb, head of counter-terrorism and counter-proliferation for the Canadian Border Services Agency. At the same time, the flow of illegal drugs to Canada from the U.S. appears to have stabilized, according to the agency. Major drug busts at the Canadian border have been fairly consistent since the mid-1990s. "In the old days, the flow of drugs was northbound, coming out of the United States," Webb said yesterday. "That ... has changed. We are now their biggest drug supplier, whether it be B.C. bud, methamphetamines or steroids." Last year, there were 974 large seizures of drugs coming in to Canada, with a total street value of about $269.7 million, the agency reports.*Now, this flies in the face of the RCMP's recent report which states otherwise:Canada's Pot Exports Overstated: RCMP http://cannabisnews.com/news/19/thread19206.shtmlFrom the article:*Ottawa -- Canada's budding reputation as America's pot pusher is getting a shakedown from some new figures that tell a different tale. Far from being the major exporter of marijuana to the United States as many might think, Canada accounts for only a small fraction of the American supply, a newly released report indicates. The RCMP's annual assessment of the drug situation in Canada, citing the latest seizure statistics, points out that most U.S. marijuana is homegrown or smuggled in from Mexico. While the amount of pot detected moving south from Canada has increased steadily since 2000, to almost 15,700 kilograms last year, it was dwarfed by the 406,000 kilograms of Mexican marijuana seized at the U.S. border in 2003. In addition, American authorities continue to report that their primary source of marijuana remains the U.S., the RCMP report says.*We've noticed here many times that the antis seem to dig up long dead propaganda memes and then try to recycle them as if they were 'news'. ("Teen smokes joint, kills mother") But this time they've been caught with both their pants down and on fire, as the premier LEO organization in Canada has pointed out that the vast majority of illicits entering the US are from the South, not the North.Time for another round of LTE's to Canuck papers, because, as usual, the media is swallowing the spoon-fed lies like candy without even checking whether what they are getting is factual or not. Seeing as the RCMP report came out only a few months back, you'd think that the media would be bringing this up themselves. :azy bums; WHO has the 'short term memory' problem, us cannabists or the media? [ Post Comment ] Comment #12 posted by The GCW on January 30, 2005 at 04:18:58 PT Notice It seems as though the U.S. is getting their hands into Cannada's business. One of the effects is that We are no longer hearing anything about Cannada's attempt to grow cannabis to help its citizens... which is supposed to happen, by court order, if I understand correct...The U.S. Feds. have a more difficult time controlling some of the policies of some of the states in the US, regarding cannabis, but might find an easier time in creating law in Cannada that will then be used against the rest of the world.What is it, the Senate, is stopping congress from propaganda... what ever... WE MAY STOP IT HERE, BUT IT IS GOING TO GROW IN CANNADA. The U.S. Gov. propaganda in Cannada is growing.When We stop the Feds. from producing propaganda, We should stop them from doing it worldwide, not just nation wide. [ Post Comment ] Comment #11 posted by JR Bob Dobbs on January 30, 2005 at 03:56:45 PT The film Reefer Madness is available for free from Archive.org at the link below, in many varying sized files and streams. It's public domain and legal to burn for personal use, unlike its subject matter.http://www.archive.org/movies/details-db.php?collection=feature_films&collectionid=reefer_madness1938I also recommend the much shorter Hemp For Victory produced by our own government during WWII exhorting the virtues of industrial hemp:http://www.archive.org/movies/details-db.php?collection=feature_films&collectionid=Hemp_for_victory_1942 [ Post Comment ] Comment #10 posted by ekim on January 29, 2005 at 20:23:59 PT thanks FoM sorry to Mis Short hope she is ok i did not go half way around this world to fight for freedom 37 years ago. only to have to pee and submit to dogs here in my own USA. that is what i was fighting for -=-so that some other human would be afraid to question for fear that he would end up in some rotting prison cell.http://stopthedrugwar.org/chronicle/372/extreme.shtml Peter Christ, a retired police captain from nearby Tonawanda and a leader of the group Law Enforcement Against Prohibition, told the Buffalo News, "[T]hese are like military devices. When you use it, you're putting people in danger." Without judging the specific situation absent all the facts, Christ offered an analysis of why extreme tactics such as use dangerous pyrotechnic devices like the flash grenades have become so routine. "The reason people accept the use of devices like this is our society's lack of respect for the people who are being arrested. They're just 'drug dealers' or 'drug addicts.'" And the innocent get caught in the crossfire, too. http://www.leap.cc/events [ Post Comment ] Comment #9 posted by FoM on January 29, 2005 at 20:01:37 PT ekim Does this help?Thelma White, 94; Actress Known for Reefer Madness: http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread20125.shtml [ Post Comment ] Comment #8 posted by ekim on January 29, 2005 at 19:56:18 PT was it Miss Short that just passed last Mon I hope someone will interview what is remaining of the cast and crew to see what they think now. Amazon.com essential video Although it was made in 1936, Reefer Madness didn't become a cult hit until 1972 when the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML) rescued it from the Library of Congress film archive. Thereafter, it was a mainstay on the midnight movie circuit. And it's easy to see why. The ostensible story involves a group of upstanding young high school students who succumb to the allure of the "killer weed." What follows, as if by natural progression, is a catalog of crimes that includes hit-and-run driving, loose morals, rape, murder, suicide, and my personal favorite, permanent insanity! The action is at times so hysterical, in both senses, that you may forget to inhale. Honors go to the wild-eyed, cackling hophead David O'Brien; his performance reaches a raw intensity that is hard to imagine. One measure of this film's pervasive influence is the extent to which its title continues to be invoked in news stories about decriminalization and medical marijuana. Such posterity for unintentional humor must be rare. A great film to see stoned, man. --Jim Gay --This text refers to the DVD edition. Cast List Dorothy Short ... Mary Lane Kenneth Craig ... Bill Harper Lillian Miles ... Blanche Dave O'Brien ... Ralph Wiley Thelma White ... Mae Colman Carleton Young ... Jack Perry Warren McCollum ... Jimmy Lane Pat Royale ... Agnes Joseph Forte ... Dr. Carroll Harry Harvey Jr. ... Junior Lester Dorr ... Bit part Phil Dunham ... Bit part Edward Earle ... Bit part Billy Franey ... Bit part Edward LeSaint ... Judge Walter McGrail ... Bit part Edmund Mortimer ... Gov. Henry Harper Frank O'Connor ... Bit part William Royle ... Bit part Dan Wolheim ... Bit part Ted Wray ... Bit part Bobby Burns ... Juror Leota Lorraine ... Mrs. Lane Mary MacLaren ... Bit part Marin Sais ... Bit part Gretchen Thomas ... Bit Part Reefer Madness the Musical Editorial Reviews Variety, May 25, 1999 ...a WONDERFULLY INVENTIVE, SUPER-CHARGED musical parody, featuring a first-rate ensemble! Los Angeles Times, May 6, 1999 CRITIC'S PICK! "Reefer Madness" is one small-scale musical with potential to get around! (Appears on the Los Angeles Times Top Ten Plays of 1999 list) Album Description Original Los Angeles Cast Recording of long-running, New York-bound, award-winning musical smash by Kevin Murphy & Dan Studney. Winner of 5 Ovation Awards, including best Musical; Winner of 7 Garland Awards, including Best Production and Best Musical Score; Winner of 7 Los Angeles Drama Critics Circle Awards, including Best Production and Best Musical Score; Placed on the LA Times list of Top Ten Theatrical Productions of 1999; Awarded a 'Stony Award' for Best Theatrical production by the editors of High Times Magazine. CD is a studio recording with original cast and full 6 piece band. Includes 28 page full-color booklet, lots of photos, all the lyrics, authors' notes and two bonus tracks (including a preview of Murphy & Studney's next musical "Valley of Kings"). http://www.leap.cc/events [ Post Comment ] Comment #7 posted by runruff on January 29, 2005 at 18:37:19 PT: Another word about Barthwell The truth will take her down at the knees. She is loosing ground every day. We no longer live in the olden days where all info and knowledge were funneled to the public in what ever form suited the powers that be at that time. Ms. Barthwell rolls gleefully along spewing and spewing as if she were the last word on everything. We live in the information age. People are not so gullable and are getting wiser every day. Time will be her greatest enemy. She will ride the gravy train of lies untill one day she will be booed off of her forum. Her humiliation will be cruel and complete. Be patient. Wait and see.Namaste [ Post Comment ] Comment #6 posted by The GCW on January 29, 2005 at 18:23:08 PT About Cannada... CN ON: PUB LTE: Marijuana Debate Dominated By RhetoricPubdate: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 Source: Ottawa Sun (CN ON)The story 'Canada No. 1 Supplier of U.S. Dope: Customs' ( Jan. 26 ) contradicts an official RCMP Criminal Intelligence report released in July 2004 ( 'Drug Situation in Canada - 2003' ) which concluded that the United States is in fact its own number one supplier of marijuana, followed by Mexico who exports at least twenty-seven times the amount of marijuana attributed to Canada. It is completely inaccurate to say that Canada is the top supplier of marijuana to the United States, when the RCMP's own evidence explicitly says otherwise. I'm not sure who to blame on this one, the Customs department for making such an unsupported claim or all the newspapers who jumped at the opportunity to make a quick buck with a sexy headline without regard to the established evidence. Sadly, the debate on marijuana continues to be dominated by rhetoric and not evidence. Jody Pressman Executive Director NORML Canada Ottawa Sun: The contradiction of the RCMP report by Customs is odd, albeit not as odd as the suggestion a headline on pot at the bottom of Page 8 sells extra newspapers http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v05/n165/a12.html?397 [ Post Comment ] Comment #5 posted by FoM on January 29, 2005 at 16:29:42 PT A News Article About Dennis Peron Peron May Split the Scene http://www.counterpunch.org/gardner01292005.htmlhttp://www.marijuana.org/ [ Post Comment ] Comment #4 posted by FoM on January 29, 2005 at 15:36:07 PT siege I didn't know that about President Kennedy. I often though if he hadn't been assassinated that he would have been open minded about Cannabis. We lost a lot when he was murdered. [ Post Comment ] Comment #3 posted by siege on January 29, 2005 at 15:28:17 PT The Reefer Madness is Here The Reefer Madness is Here"If the hideous monster Frankenstein came face to face with the monster of marijuana he would drop dead of fright."Harry J. Anslingerhttp://www.onlinepot.org/ReeferMadness/reefermadnessindex.htm--------------------------------------------------------------- Did you know that Harry J. Anslinger did not Retire from the "Federal Narcotic Bureau" in 1962! He Was Fired! By President John F. Kennedy. For refusing to stop trying to censor the publications and blackmail and harass the publishers of Professor Alfred Lindsmith of Indiana University who wrote, among other works, "The Addict and the Law" (Washington Post, 1961). Credible sources report that President Kennedy routinely used marijuana to relieve his back pain and planned to have the drug legalized. These plans unfortunately were terminated by his assassination. [ Post Comment ] Comment #2 posted by kaptinemo on January 29, 2005 at 15:10:49 PT: LOL John Wayne, 'reefer madness' is the supposed murderous psychosis that grips the cannabis smoker immediately upon inhaling. Characterized by insane laughter (giggle fits don't count; I mean the wild eyed and droolling MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA! kind) coupled with the urge to kill.Now, the only thing I've ever brutally assaulted after partaking is Chinese carryout and delivered pizza. And I've ruthlessly dispatched whatever leftovers happened to be in the 'fridge. On one particularly frenzied evening, I and my friends once callously and mercilessly sent an entire half-gallon of Rocky Road ice cream to the Hereafter within an hour. Oh, such carnage! (Burp.)The only harm I've ever experienced by cannabis use has been to myself; specifically my waistline. Neither I nor any of my friends ever raised a hand or even a voice against anyone while stoned. Deportment that damn few barflies can match. God knows how many irascible and bellicose drunks I've had to dodge in my life, and have a scar on a knuckle from when I didn't dodge one fast enough. I'll take the company of the stoned to the drunk any day.'Reefer madness' my hairy backside. The only people displaying such symptoms are the ones who *don't* toke...and hate that you do. [ Post Comment ] Comment #1 posted by john wayne on January 29, 2005 at 14:15:31 PT What exactly IS "reefer madness"? Anybody? [ Post Comment ] Post Comment