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Canada's Marijuana Party Sells Pot Seeds 
Posted by CN Staff on June 14, 2004 at 08:14:44 PT
By The Associated Press
Source: Associated Press
Vancouver, British Columbia -- The Marijuana Party of Canada has turned to selling pot seeds to help raise money for the national elections."We're going to do it to fund the campaign and the movement in general," said party leader Marc-Boris St-Maurice, who's running against Prime Minister Paul Martin in Montreal. "We're going to be doing this for the remainder of our existence until pot is legal."
The party buys seeds in bulk from Canadian suppliers, including Willy Jack and Sensi Seeds, then sells packs of 10 at prices ranging from $10 (US$7.40) for nonviable "decorative" seeds to $400 (US$296) for "thoroughbred, Cannabis Cup-winning" varieties.So far, St-Maurice said, the party has sold five or six packs."It's by no means a gold mine yet, but it will come," he said. "It's a very political action."A Montreal police officer told the Vancouver Province on Sunday that St-Maurice probably would not be prosecuted for selling seeds.The Criminal Code prohibits possession, cultivation and sales of marijuana, but selling seeds seems to fall into a gray area."It appears not to be illegal in that people who are doing it are not being charged for doing it," said Neil Boyd, a criminology professor at Simon Fraser University and author of "High Society," a book on marijuana in Canada.Marijuana seeds have so little tetrahydrocannabinol, the psychoactive ingredient in pot, that a judge could rule that they are not a drug, Boyd said.Complete Title: Canada's Marijuana Party Sells Pot Seeds To Finance CampaignSource: Associated Press Published: Monday, June 14, 2004Copyright: 2004 The Associated Press Related Articles & Web Site:Marijuana Partyhttp://www.marijuanaparty.com/Marijuana Party Leader To Contest Pot Lawhttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread18981.shtmlMarijuana Party Pipes Up with Election Platformhttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread18930.shtmlMarijuana Party Ready To Rollhttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread18929.shtml
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Comment #11 posted by afterburner on June 23, 2004 at 09:58:48 PT
But Cannabis Prohibition Still 'Legal,' Yeh Right!
Enforcement continues, but charges keep getting dropped by the Canadian federal Department of Justice with no reason given:1    CN ON: Crown Drops Charges Tue, 22 Jun 2004 Excerpt http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v04/n898/a04.html?1802    CN ON: Charges Dropped Against Marijuana 'Compassion Club' Tue, 22 Jun 2004 Excerpt http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v04/n897/a05.html?1803    CN ON: Case Against Compassion Club Up In Smoke Tue, 22 Jun 2004 Excerpt http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v04/n897/a06.html?180
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Comment #10 posted by afterburner on June 22, 2004 at 20:11:07 PT
News Flash: Cannabis Still Legal in Canada
' 11. The invalidation of the prohibition on marijuana in the
section 4 of the CDSA also invalidated the prohibitions in the
other sections too. S.4 says it is an offence to possession
anything on "Schedule II of banned substances." Section 7 says it
is an offence to cultivate anything on "Schedule II of banned
substances." Section 5 says it is an offence to possess for the
purpose of trafficking anything on the "Schedule II of banned
substances."' 12. On Aug. 1 2001, the day on which the courts have found that
the invalidation of the prohibition on the possession of
marijuana in the CDSA by the Parker Court to have taken effect,
there was only one way for the publication of the new legislation
to reflect that fact. Since marijuana is not mentioned in the
CDSA sections 4, 5, 7, but only on the Schedule II of banned
substances, the invalidation of the prohibition can only be
effected by the deletion of the word "marijuana" from Schedule II
of banned substances. There is no other way for the invalidation
to have effect given the state of the out-of-date legislation. ' --excerpt from TURMEL: New motion to dismiss all pending pot charges http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/MedPot/message/1257
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Comment #9 posted by afterburner on June 22, 2004 at 19:55:31 PT
Exactly, Virgil
I find it not coincident that Turmel's case is being continued until October 22, 2004, just prior to the US elections. It's like the Canadian crown is playing for time, hoping for a more sympathetic US government administration.The Canadian government, and many of the media lackeys, never did admit that cannabis possession (and cultivation) are legal until the Ontario Court of Appeals somehow magically "resurrected" the dead law on October 7, 2003, which is subject to constitutional challenge. The dropping of the May 16, 2004, charge shows the Crown does not believe its own hype.
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Comment #8 posted by Virgil on June 22, 2004 at 17:57:44 PT
The Crown withdrew charges for 2004 charge
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/MedPot/message/1253 - Turmel says here that a cannabis charge for a May 16, 2004 event was dropped by the Crown when defended with the fact that the law was dead since August 1, 2001. What is funny is that the papers presented the party line that the offenses occured when there was a problem with the law and that the Oct. 7, 2004 fixed that problem.The Crown withdrew the charges to hide the fact that the laws are still dead and the courts cannot pass legislation.
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Comment #7 posted by Virgil on June 22, 2004 at 17:02:20 PT
Afterburner
I believe Turmel's position is that possession and cultivation are legal and that trafficing is the last criminal offense left in Canada. 
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Comment #6 posted by afterburner on June 22, 2004 at 11:04:29 PT
Abuse of Power -- Abuse of Procedure
CN BC: Wrong House Raided As Marijuana Grow-op 
by Elaine O'Connor, The Province, (21 Jun 2004) Province British Columbia http://www.mapinc.org/ccnews/v04/n890/a01.html' Whalley Man Spends Father's Day Cleaning Up Damage Done By RCMP ' Ramirez's copy of the search warrant showed his property was investigated for "possession of a controlled substance." '*Possession*, not cultivation! The increasing Canadian police state. Vote on June 28 for a reasonable cannabis policy, not a US-style Drug War! Turmel and many others in Ontario maintain that since a court cannot legislate, cannabis possession and perhaps cultivation are still legal. Maybe the RCMP is playing it safe by going for a lesser charge, so that the cultivation and trafficking law won't be further challenged. Canadians, you have no privacy in the eyes of the current government. The RCMP has the right to break-down your door, or in the article *four doors* on the suspicions of a neighbor.It's time to nip this renewed Canadian Drug War in the bud!
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Comment #5 posted by afterburner on June 14, 2004 at 20:46:41 PT
On the Canadian Campaign Trail
The Marijuana Party hits the campaign trail 
by Reverend Damuzi (14 Jun, 2004) http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/3496.html ' Meanwhile, NDP Leader signs "unauthorized" pro-pot literature ' http://www.cannabisculture.com/library/images/uploads/3496-Jacksignedflyer.jpg
 
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Comment #4 posted by Virgil on June 14, 2004 at 14:13:30 PT
I got laughing grass from Turmel
I think it showed some brilliance that he used the term. I did create Miracleplant on my own. I have already given Turmel credit for his vocabulary and he was the first person I saw use it. I did create the expression "driving while enhanced" and I do believe our industrious engineer used it subsequently. There is an importance to words. When I first took to the Internet with purpose about 3 years ago Noam Chomsky was someone I never heard of until Cnews. Of course his profession is in linquistics at MIT and he had written his book Manufacturing Consent I thought it an example of wisdom in chosing words and had always admired him for that alone. I have a current bookmark for Chomsky when he did a recent interview in Germany. I wish that everyone would read it because it has significance to the drug war and to the media. He also says that what we have in America in scholarly terminology is a polyarchy where the powerful corporations chose the candidates and the public ratifies one that will go on to do the bidding of the concentrations of wealth. Here is the link to this revealing interview by Znet/Zmag- http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=36&ItemID=5694Words are important to the max. The man that had the greatest foresight into what was and would happen would be Orwell. I hope people read the Chomsky interview, but if I suggest reading anything right now it would be the quotes of George Orwell listed here. They are important enough that if I had time I would copy all of them here- http://en.thinkexist.com/quotes/george_orwell/4.htmlThe one that seems to most apply to the War for Prohibition is #16. Orwell says "During times of universal deciet, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act."
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Comment #3 posted by afterburner on June 14, 2004 at 11:02:10 PT
Virgil
Did Turmel get the term "laughing grass" from you or you from him? Thursday should be interesting.Based on visual survey of city, suburb, and country election signs, the NDP seems to be leading in the cities and the Conservatives in the country and rich suburbs. We'll see how all this plays out soon. Stephen Harper, who once passed up the only joint offered to him because he was too drunk, would allow private member bills to turn back the clock on hard-won social issues vs. the NDP's hide-and-seek pro-cannabis endorsement of private use, cannabis cafes and a legal environment. Many voters are confused and want to punish the Liberals for mismanagement, graft and arrogance.SIMMER DOWN by
Bob Marley http://www.warande.net/~YukLan/Marley/simmerdown.html' Simmer down: you lickin' too hot, so!
Simmer down: soon you'll get dropped, so!
Simmer down: can you hear what I say?
Simmer down: simmer won't you - why won't you
why won't you simmer down?
Simmer down!' Long time people de used to say,
What sweet nanny goat
A-go run him belly, so:
Simmer down: oh, control your temper!
Simmer down: or the battle will be hotter
Simmer down: man, you hear what I say?
Simmer down: oh, that I'm a-leavin' you today!' Simmer down: oh, you hear what I say?
Simmer simmer: a-that I'm leavin' you today!
Simmer down: can you hear what I say?
Simmer down!' Chicken merry, hawk deh near
And when him deh near
You must beware, so:
Simmer down: oh, control your temper!
Simmer down: for the battle will be hotter;
Simmer down: and-a you won't get no supper.
Simmer down: and you know you bound to suffer
Simmer down: simmer - simmer - simmer right down:
Simmer down: like you never did before!
Simmer down: oh, oh, oh!
Simmer down: man, you hear what I say?
Simmer down: you lickin' too hot, so!
Simmer down: and you know soon you'll get dropped, so!
Simmer down: I want to simmer - simmer down!
Simmer down: simmer down - simmer down!
Simmer down: simmer - simmer down!
Simmer down: oh, simmer - simmer down!
Simmer down: and you never ... ' 
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Comment #2 posted by Virgil on June 14, 2004 at 08:55:09 PT
Correction to comment1 link
Here is the link to find where Fahrenheit 9/11 is playing- http://www.f911tix.com
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Comment #1 posted by Virgil on June 14, 2004 at 08:42:07 PT
Elections
Blair's party took a beating in the elections of last Thursday. It was a good election for the Social Democrats that call for legalization of laughing grass. But the Social Democrats who power German politics took the worst beating of any party in power in Europe in 25 years in their elections due to the misery caused by the spending on social programs- http://www.dw-world.de/english/0,3367,1433_A_1234563_1_A,00.htmlCanada too feels the call to humble the party that rules them and the Conservatives which is headed by the fundamentalist type has risen ahead of Martin and the Liberals by a few points. It is scaring people that a right wing party will come in and cut social programs and Jack Layton of the NDP called on people not to vote Liberal in fear of a Conservative victory. Richard Cowan said in his current writing that the cannabis issue is not that big an issue in the election. Maybe so, but with such a tight race for supremacy between the Liberals and Conservatives, the staunchness of those that do support legalization and see the NDP as the best path play a big part in who will win. It will not be a majority government in the House of Commons which leads to another election when a vote of no confidence comes. It would teach the Liberals a valuable lesson if the NDP does well and I would hope that people that do not want new laws now being marketed as decriminalization vote NDP. There is a good thread on this at DU- http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x1786102There will be a two-hour debate tonight in French and another one tomorrow in English that will be on national television. The thing I am most interested in besides the outcome is the participation from the young that have taken an interest in things and are actually informed because they are the Internet voters.Fahrenheit 9/11, Michael Moore's movie will come out three days before the election. I think most people will expect some big ripples that are even felt in the Canadian elections the Monday after the release on Friday. Here is a website telling who will show the movie- http://www.f911tix.com/results.php?st=NC
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