cannabisnews.com: Study Faults White House Anti-Drug Ads
Study Faults White House Anti-Drug Ads
Posted by CN Staff on January 19, 2004 at 11:54:04 PT
By Ira Teinowitz
Source: AdAge.com
Washington -- An ongoing study by the National Institute on Drug Abuse has concluded that the advertising program of the White House anti-drug office has had little impact on its primary target: America's teenagers. Conducted jointly by the Annenberg School of Communications at the University of Pennsylvania in Philadelphia and Westat, a 30-year-old research firm in Rockville, Md., the analysis concluded that "there is little evidence of direct favorable [advertising] campaign effects on youth."
Officials of the White House Office of National Drug Control Policy were not immediately available for comment today because of the Martin Luther King Day holiday, which has closed most federal offices. $150 million The drug office spends $150 million a year on advertising, and those expenditures have been the subject of ongoing controversy in Congress. The NIDA report covers the advertising campaign's start in September 1999 through June 2003. Entitled "Evaluation of the National Youth Anti-Drug Media Campaign: 2003 Report of Findings," the report issued by NIDA notes that the advertising campaigns have had a "favorable effect" on parents but not on the children, whose illicit drug use is the focus of the ads. Marijuana emphasis The White House ad campaign, though aimed at all illicit drug use, intensified its focus on marijuana in the fall of 2002. However, the report said that investigators found that "youth who were more exposed to [the anti-drug advertising campaign] messages are no more likely to hold favorable beliefs or intentions about marijuana than are youth less exposed to those messages." NIDA, part of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, has been evaluating the White House's anti-drug ad campaigns for years. WPP Group's Ogilvy & Mather, New York, handles the drug office advertising account, but most ads come from the Partnership for a Drug-Free America. A Partnership spokesman did not return calls. Ogilvy & Mather While the drug office has enjoyed some strong congressional support, it also has strong critics on Capitol Hill who have questioned both the ads effectiveness and the use of Ogilvy, which earlier settled for $1.8 million civil charges that it overbilled the government for its ad work on the anti-drug account. Two former Ogilvy officials were recently indicted on charges related to those disputed billings. Note: NIDA Says Campaigns Have Little Impact on Youth.Download the 29-page NIDA Executive Summary -- http://www.adage.com/images/random/nida011904.pdfSource: AdAge.com Author: Ira Teinowitz Published: January 19, 2004Copyright: 2004 Crain Communications Inc. Contact: editor adage.comWebsite: http://www.adage.com/Related Articles:Senate Bill Would Strip Ogilvy of Drug Account http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread17816.shtmlCongress Recommends $145 M For Drug Officehttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread17789.shtmlSenators Join Critics Of ONDCP Program http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread17774.shtml
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Comment #52 posted by FoM on January 20, 2004 at 19:37:56 PT
Thanks!
I guess that doesn't surprise me. I've known people that went to Yale and Brown and I was in their eyes not worthy. I've seen it. Is that what it is all about?
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Comment #51 posted by jose melendez on January 20, 2004 at 19:28:52 PT
jolly roger
here you go FoMhttp://www.guerrillanews.com/counter_intelligence/doc808.htmlhttp://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-ontario-stories/2002-September/000631.htmlhttp://www.theatlantic.com/issues/2000/05/robbins.htmhttp://www.phoenixmasonry.org/masonicmuseum/fraternalism/skulls_and_bones.htm
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Comment #50 posted by Virgil on January 20, 2004 at 19:28:15 PT
CFR- Council on Foreign Relations
Skull and Bones is an elite secret society at Yale. Bu$h and other elitist join it to advance the cause of the powerful- http://www.bilderberg.org/skulbone.htmCFR homepage- http://www.cfr.org/press/policy/video_transcripts.php
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Comment #49 posted by FoM on January 20, 2004 at 19:25:51 PT
The Democratic Response to the State of the Union
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33481-2004Jan20.html
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Comment #48 posted by FoM on January 20, 2004 at 18:57:21 PT
Prepared Text: State of the Union Address
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33364-2004Jan20.html
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Comment #47 posted by FoM on January 20, 2004 at 18:43:11 PT
mayan
What's a CFR & Skull & Bones mean? I hope that Dean doesn't get the nomination. I can't think of anyone who could beat Bush except maybe Kerry.
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Comment #46 posted by mayan on January 20, 2004 at 18:22:39 PT
Kerry...
Anothere CFR & Skull & Bones man...go figure!
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Comment #45 posted by E_Johnson on January 20, 2004 at 10:30:48 PT
This brings back memories
" Some Vietnam Veterans Against the War leaders also viewed Kerry as a power-grabbing elitist, a source of internal friction within the antiwar movement. "There was no question but that the rift existed," said Butler, who was with Kerry at the time and remains a close friend. "A wing of the VVAW were pushing so hard to the left that they were almost Maoist. Every time John did something useful like raise money or speak in front of the Foreign Relations Committee or give an interview, he was criticized for being a media whiz."
"I remember the Maoist wing of the VVAW. There was one really nasty hardcore left guy who led a protest against me when a picture of some event he organized fell out of the printers flats and got lost on the way to the printer at 4am.He didn't buy that it was an accident. It was a conspiracy against him! I was suddenly anti-veteran. I had fifteen angry Communists block my office door and shout obscenities at me over a freaking accident.
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Comment #44 posted by jose melendez on January 20, 2004 at 07:46:43 PT
move on, ONDCP
Here is a column decrying ONDCP ads in my local paper:http://www.news-journalonline.com/NewsJournalOnline/Opinion/Editorials/03OpOP02012004.htm
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Comment #43 posted by The GCW on January 20, 2004 at 05:37:57 PT
The Ecologician is a hippy.
I want My men & women; (short pause) boys and girls, to come home today, not 2 or three years from now. I want the U.N. in and the U.S. out. Between Iowa and New Hampshire, how many more Americans will have died in Iraq? Measure time in the form of bodies and people will see, Dennis Kucinich has the correct time. How many between now and election day? How many before inauguration day?I also want to say, it is disappointing to see Dennis Kucinich give any support to Anderson. That talk is unhealthy.Revelation 11:18, When wrath comes, it is to “destroy those who destroy the earth.” And that makes Me think of how hippies have been the target of the spirit of error yet it is the hippy who spoke against destroying the earth. The hippies were called hippies because they were hip; hip to what was going on. That is why they were not called dummies. Christ The Ecologician is a hippy.Are You hip? Hip to Christ God Our Father and the Spirit of Truth? If someone randomly asks You if You are hip; this is exactly what You should consider You are or You are not, Hip to.The truth is good for earth. The truth ends war.Lack of the truth is Our enemy.
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Comment #42 posted by Virgil on January 20, 2004 at 05:03:41 PT
EJ- VVAW and Kerry articles
http://www.boston.com/globe/nation/packages/kerry/061703.shtml Kerry is a Senaor from MA and the Boston Globe did aseries on him last summer. This is part three of Kerry, Nixon, and VVAW.There were only praises for the Edwards and Kerry speeches last night. The BBC has Kerry's speech and of couse they both have websites. Both speeches were cut off by TV coverage. Dean exploded in a fit of rage on telivision and it shook loose some of his supporters while it killed esteem of those that did not at DU. I am no pundit, but I believe Dean is toast. The enemy is shooting at him and he is done for.
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Comment #41 posted by FoM on January 19, 2004 at 21:44:55 PT
lag
Kucinich has a good mind and good ideas but he just was missing something for me. I'm not sure what it was. Kerry is more from my generation when we lived in such turbulent times. War and Peace and JFK and MLK and the birth of the drug culture. Free expression and oh yes free love. What a time to try to figure out how you felt about life with all this happening around you. Our husbands and boyfriends were being drafted and sent to a country to fight a war that we didn't understand. I haven't met a Vietnam Veteran that served in combat that I didn't like. My husband did two tours in Nam. I met him after he came home. I learned alot about life from him. I think Kerry has what it takes to do a good job if people will just give him a chance and he gets more air time on the news.
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Comment #40 posted by lag on January 19, 2004 at 21:32:07 PT
FoM your feelings about Kerry I felt...
as well, which is why he has always been on my thumbs up list of these candidates. Kucinich was right up there too, but as liberal as I am, some of the things he is saying seem too rash.I like Edwards, but his stance on the DEA raids is frustrating. How many more 'independent' studies do we need? Didn't Nixon commission a study that was ultimately pro-decrim, despite the bias of his personal stance on the subject? Doesn't seem like you could get more 'independent' than that. While, I can understand Edwards playing it cautious, it seems like he hasn't figured out the true meaning of our Constitution.I hope that Kerry is healthy enough to go all the way...and let's hear it for Braun for VEEP. Woot!
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Comment #39 posted by FoM on January 19, 2004 at 20:53:28 PT
That's a Good One EJ
I have to agree with you. Shame on us. Still reminds me of a woodchuck though.
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Comment #38 posted by E_Johnson on January 19, 2004 at 20:48:52 PT
Barney Rubble
Does anyone besides me think Dean looks like Barney Rubble's long lost brother?
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Comment #37 posted by Virgil on January 19, 2004 at 20:40:21 PT
Kerry on motorcycle on Tonight show
http://gallery.johnkerry.com/gallery/album108 This is a gallery of pictures when he rode a Harley onto the Tonight Show on November 11th.He has a forum and a link to his blog at blogspot that is easy to find- http://gallery.johnkerry.com/gallery/Kerry did oppose the pill bill that is the beginning of undoing Medicare and blasted Bu$h for signing it. The picture of Gephart at the signing of the bill pill is something he will probably always regret.
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Comment #36 posted by FoM on January 19, 2004 at 20:34:04 PT
This Could Become An Interesting Race
Back in the mid 70s I was upset about the laws concerning marijuana. I even wrote a letter to our local weekly paper and they published it as an editorial piece. I never said anymore about it after that letter to the paper. We came to the conclusion that if the laws weren't changed in a few years back then that the laws would change when the Woodstock, Vietnam War folks made it into politics. Maybe it will happen.PS: I am so happy that Dean got his bubble burst tonight. I don't like him. He rubs me the wrong way and he looks like a woodchuck to me. LOL! That wasn't nice but he does!
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Comment #35 posted by E_Johnson on January 19, 2004 at 19:55:45 PT
Yes I see, you're right
The VVAW were basically the hippie vets. But they smuggled people to Canada. That I know.Gosh when I remember those guys, I remember that we passed joint in their office at school. Every day.Wow the memories are flooding back. I was a newspaper editor and the VVAW guy would stop by my office and it wasn't like 4:20 but we had our code. Attitude adjustment that was it. Attitude adjustment hour. Around 4pm. Get your attitude adjusted with the VVAW.
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Comment #34 posted by Virgil on January 19, 2004 at 19:55:39 PT
Gephart has conceded on Cspan
He said about his wife "...she makes the sun come up for me every day."First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. - Mahatma Gandhi
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Comment #33 posted by FoM on January 19, 2004 at 19:49:44 PT
About Hippie Heart
I know that wasn't right but most of the activists were hippie types that protested the Vietnam War. I have my own feelings about what a hippie was back then and it was a caring, compassionate person. Remember a Hippie is a heart thing for me but might not be what a hippie really was. I hope this makes sense.
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Comment #32 posted by Virgil on January 19, 2004 at 19:43:48 PT
Kucinich statement on Iowa
Kucinich: This Will Go to ConventionFor Immediate Release: Jan. 19, 2004Democratic Presidential Candidate Dennis Kucinich had been showing at 3 percent in the polls in Iowa, but topped 15 percent or more in many precincts in order to win 1.2 percent of the total delegates. Had he failed to top a surprising 15 percent, Kucinich would have finished with zero delegates as expected. The polls did little better at predicting the results for the other candidates in the Iowa caucuses, and tonight's results may have raised more questions than they answered about the final outcome of the Democratic nominating process."This is the beginning of the campaign," said Kucinich. "We've got 49 states left to go. The media had long ago predicted the winner of the entire process and even the loser of the general election, and tonight's caucuses have the pundits scratching their collective scalps in bewilderment. I moved from ninth place to fifth and won delegates despite the 15 percent threshold. "The longtime poll leader dropped to third, which some pundits are erroneously crediting to Dr. Dean's status as an anti-war candidate. Dr. Dean did not consistently oppose the initial stages of this war and he has said that he will keep our troops in Iraq for years."As I climb higher in New Hampshire and each successive state, and as the situation in Iraq continues to worsen, Democratic support for peace will be reflected in my campaign's success. I predict a brokered convention in July. By the end of this month my campaign will have raised over $10 million, including matching funds, and I'm just getting started."As part of my strategy in the Iowa caucuses, I worked out an arrangement with Senator Edwards that may have allowed each of us to pick up a few more delegates. Our supporters, of course, ultimately chose their own courses of action. But none were left with their only strategic choice being leaving their caucus and going home. John and I are friends and I wish him the best. But we have 49 states left to go, and we're each on our own."
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Comment #31 posted by FoM on January 19, 2004 at 19:42:25 PT
cloud7
I'm so glad I made sense!
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Comment #30 posted by E_Johnson on January 19, 2004 at 19:42:23 PT
Kerry helped found the VVAW - I am impressed
I found this at a campaign info site:" He returned home in 1969 a decorated war veteran having been awarded a Silver Star, a Bronze Star, and three Purple Hearts. Two years later he attracted national attention as one of the organizers of Vietnam Veterans Against the War."The VVAW were rockin dudes.They helped get draft resisters to Canada. I hung out with the VVAW guys in college and they were great guys. We used to smoke weed and play RISK. FoM, I don't think it's a hippie heart you're seeing in Kerry.It's an activist heart. The VVAW was an activist organization. He put a lot at risk in that venture.
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Comment #29 posted by FoM on January 19, 2004 at 19:40:32 PT
breeze
Thank you! That was very kind!
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Comment #28 posted by breeze on January 19, 2004 at 19:35:22 PT
FOM- You are the greatest moderator ever!!!
Thank you for serving me so quickly with the information!
I was just curious how many enquiring minds there are, and now I can clearly see there are many!
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Comment #27 posted by FoM on January 19, 2004 at 19:28:23 PT
Breeze
These are public stats. I haven't looked this month but our highest month and that was this past November was over 3, 200,000 total hits for the month. It's been slow this month but considering how slow the news is we are doing fine.http://cannabisnews.com/stats/
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Comment #26 posted by breeze on January 19, 2004 at 19:24:40 PT
lets speak in terms that everyone can understand
Ok- Kerry has the nomination from Iowa.This is a good thing? Does it mean that now, Kucinich has a better chance in the other 49?What is Kerry's stance on the issue of legalization?
Considering that most states are favoring funding of building prisons, and maintenance of those being held inside those already occupied instead of education for our children, where does Kerry stand on the issue?
I know its a rhetorical question- just humour me.By the way- FOM, do you know how many hits your site recieves on a daily,weekly , or monthly basis?
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Comment #25 posted by cloud7 on January 19, 2004 at 19:21:07 PT
...
"Something inside gives me a sense that Kerry is a person who lived and felt the times of the Vietnam War and the drug culture etc. He appears to have somewhere deep inside behind his suit a hippy heart for lack of a better way of saying it. Does anyone think that too?"That's almost exactly how I was feeling and you put it into words.
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Comment #24 posted by Virgil on January 19, 2004 at 19:14:08 PT
I would like to get warped, FoM
He likes to ride his bike. I will put a link up of him in his leathers when I can. I will request one at DU while the board is well attended.
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Comment #23 posted by The GCW on January 19, 2004 at 19:11:44 PT
Green Commentary
I am a bit put off by Kucinich (A+) supporting Anderson (F)!It makes Me think, that My support should go to Kerry (A-)because I would hate for Anderson (F) to win over Kerry (A-) by a few votes.I am all for Kucinich (A+), but My vote will never go to Anderson (F)!
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Comment #22 posted by FoM on January 19, 2004 at 19:01:08 PT
My Political Point Of View
You all know I am not fond of politics. I avoid the subject as much as possible and stay focused on finding news concerning Cannabis. That said I want to say something about John Kerry. I do not know what he was for before or anything like that but this is my current observation as I see him right now. Not tomorrow but right now. Something inside gives me a sense that Kerry is a person who lived and felt the times of the Vietnam War and the drug culture etc. He appears to have somewhere deep inside behind his suit a hippy heart for lack of a better way of saying it. Does anyone think that too? Maybe I've watched the news today too long and I'm warped. I don't know.
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Comment #21 posted by Virgil on January 19, 2004 at 18:59:07 PT
Gephart to announce withdrawal tomorrow
They are saying the aides have told MSNBC reporter, David Schuster, it is over-http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=140679
The Nazi's will have to haul me away to keep from voting for Kucinich, no matter the situation. The country is on a straight path collision toward ruin and DK is the one that will steer it furthest from Target Ruination.I actually like Cary of the remaining candidates. I would vote ABB because I certainly would not vote for somebody I have advocating impeaching and putting on trial as a war criminal.I think there is a sadness on Kerry's face from seeing where we are. The one thing about Kerry is that he knows that the USG is involved in the drug trade since he was the one who chaired the Iran-Contra investigation. The work to Free Cannabis is just part of the attack on the War of Insanity. It weakens all the rationale and shows all the hate and the tremendous cost in human suffering and children's futures. I have no problem condemning the government policy/attitude on Miracle Plant. I also see the need to call an end to the insanity and failure of the drug wars.Kerry has had decades to let the drug war spin around in his head. People are not going to follow his drug policy if it is continued failure. If he stays the course, he will be remembered in history for that failure too, if he were to get elected. He may have some thoughts on the drug war, but he cannot change the wind. The people are the wind and the wind from People land is making things warmer.DK is still the man. Now there only 6 to dilute his wisdoms and that is if you count Sharpton.
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Comment #20 posted by cloud7 on January 19, 2004 at 18:57:05 PT
On Kerry
I dont think he would be bad for our cause. He didnt come out like DK and say he would decriminalize for everyone, but I think he may be holding out some. If he wins we'll see where he truly stands once he's in office.
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Comment #19 posted by E_Johnson on January 19, 2004 at 18:53:38 PT
That was cute FoM
Kerry had such a naughty twinkle in his eye.The naughty twinkle of freedom.(Sigh)
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Comment #18 posted by The GCW on January 19, 2004 at 18:51:17 PT
Results
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A30125-2004Jan19.html
Kerry Wins Iowa Democratic Presidential Caucuses
Kerry 38%Edwards 32.2%Dean 17.9%Gephardt 10.5%Other 1.4%
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Comment #17 posted by FoM on January 19, 2004 at 18:50:34 PT
Thanks The GCW
I find it very interesting that Senator Kerry's popularity went up after his little Puff The Magic Dragon thingy he did. It was really cute.
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Comment #16 posted by The GCW on January 19, 2004 at 18:40:40 PT
The report card.
A+ - Dennis Kucinich: On May 29, Kucinich was quoted in the San
Francisco Chronicle as supporting medical marijuana "without
reservation" and indicated that as president he would be
willing to sign an executive order permitting its use. A - Carol Moseley Braun: When asked at a campaign stop in Durham on
November 3 if she would sign legislation allowing seriously ill
people to use medical marijuana with their doctors' approval,
Moseley Braun responded, "Yes ... You don't have to record me,
I'm already on record on this." A- - John Kerry: During a town hall meeting in Henniker on Sept. 20,
an MPP staffer asked Kerry, "Would you stop the raids, as
president?" Kerry responded by saying simply, "Yes." B+ - Wesley Clark: During a November 13 town hall meeting in
Portsmouth, a volunteer for MPP's campaign asked Clark if, as
president, he would stop the DEA's raids on seriously ill
medical marijuana patients in the nine states that have removed
the threat of jail for medical marijuana patients. Clark
replied, "In a simple yes-or-no answer: Yes." B - Al Sharpton: When an MPP volunteer asked Sharpton on December 9
if, as president, he would stop the DEA's raids on medical
marijuana patients, he replied, "I think that medical marijuana
patients should not be arrested for using medical marijuana. I
think that's something that I wouldn't do." D- - Howard Dean: At a town hall meeting in Hampton on November 13,
an MPP volunteer asked Dean if he would promise to permanently
stop raids on medical marijuana patients in the states that
have reduced or eliminated criminal penalties for the medicinal
use of marijuana. Dean responded, "I don't believe in what
Ashcroft's doing about medical -- putting people in prison who
are, who have AIDS. Let me tell you what we have to do on
medical marijuana. I stopped a medical marijuana bill in my
legislature, and I'll tell you why. Because I'm a doctor, I
think substances taken into your body have to be treated the
same if they're meant to be medicines, no matter what they are.
And I don't like people -- for the same reason I'm pro-choice
-- I don't like people who are not in a position to make
decisions about people's lives, like politicians particularly
... In the meantime, you know, I'm not in favor of legalizing
marijuana -- I mean, maybe for medicinal use ... And so I'm not
in favor of the kinds of raids that John Ashcroft is doing in
those states where people have decided that medical marijuana
is okay. I don't agree with the way it came about from a
political process, but I'm not in favor of locking people up
for medical marijuana like John Ashcroft is doing." Dean has
called for a one-year moratorium on the DEA's raids; the notion
of restarting the raids after one year, in combination with his
actions as governor, have earned him a D- grade. F - George Bush, John Edwards, Richard Gephardt, and Joe Lieberman:
We tried our best, but Edwards, Gephardt, and Lieberman simply
would not pledge to end the DEA's raids on patients. Edwards is
particularly hypocritical, given that he admitted to having
smoked marijuana recreationally.
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Comment #15 posted by Virgil on January 19, 2004 at 18:27:20 PT
Kerry won. Iowa is good news for Kucinich
In 1992 Clinton finished 4th in Iowa, mainly because Harkin ran and nobody wasted time campaigning. Everybody had jumped on board the Dean train and the talking heads were saying that it looks like Dean, it looks like Dean. Now the machine has been stopped. Dean as governor stopped the Medical Miracle Plant iniative last year. He has the bought and paid for speech of the pill companies on his position now. My problem with Dean is I believe he was put up by the plutocracy, no matter what they say. Either way, it shows the machine is in serious trouble.What is significant to Kucinich is that Gephart is toast. It is his area of the country and they know how he failed as majority leader in the House and now he will be leaving the building. Now we are down to 7. Next Tuesday is New Hampshire where two big papers came out for Kerry- http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040119/NEWS08/40119016/-1/news08 That might kill off Lieberman and then there will be 6 with Dean sinking.
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Comment #14 posted by mayan on January 19, 2004 at 18:24:26 PT
They've Always Known...
Entitled "Evaluation of the National Youth Anti-Drug Media Campaign: 2003 Report of Findings," the report issued by NIDA notes that the advertising campaigns have had a "favorable effect" on parents but not on the children, whose illicit drug use is the focus of the ads.As I've said before, the federal government only wants to give the impression that it is wants to eliminate the use of illicit drugs by teens. The thing is, if they did eliminate drug use their cash cow(drug war) would run out of grass to graze on. They've always known that these ads would have absolutely no positive effect regarding teen drug use. They know exactly what they are doing by directing these ads towards the parents. The fact is that the U.S. governmnet is the biggest illicit drug dealer on the planet. The feds may be terribly ignorant but they aren't stupid.Here's another article on Afghan heroin...Taleban drugs control 'effective':
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3408353.stmThe way out is the way in...PBS Documentary: Silverstein, FDNY Razed WTC 7
http://www.infowars.com/print/Sept11/FDNY.htmCourt Denies Access To Firefighter's 9/11 WTC Opinions:
http://rense.com/general48/ciwc.htm"Whitewash': 9/11 Director Gave Evidence to Own Inquiry"
http://www.911citizenswatch.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=35&mode=thread&order=0&thold=09/11 For The Truth - Mariani vs. Bush:
http://www.911forthetruth.com/
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Comment #13 posted by FoM on January 19, 2004 at 17:42:05 PT
cloud7
That's OK. I'm glad with all these politics going on we care.Since Kerry is winning in Iowa and will be hard to beat at least there what hope do we have now? Here are two articles on his opinion on medical marijuana.Kerry: End Medical Marijuana Prosecution: http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread18114.shtmlSenators Back UM Medical Marijuana: http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread17685.shtml
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Comment #12 posted by cloud7 on January 19, 2004 at 17:35:37 PT
Whoops,
should of looked two posts below!
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Comment #11 posted by cloud7 on January 19, 2004 at 17:29:52 PT
Fox news report on medical marijuana
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,108881,00.html
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Comment #10 posted by FoM on January 19, 2004 at 16:42:26 PT
Thanks EJ
I just saw the video again on Fox. Such small cases are making such a difference it seems. I hope this isn't making Mr. Nord's health worse.
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Comment #9 posted by E_Johnson on January 19, 2004 at 16:37:54 PT
Fox is covering Don Nord
First Montel appears on Hannity and Colmes and now this:http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,108881,00.html
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Comment #8 posted by Virgil on January 19, 2004 at 16:00:31 PT
The pill companies on the Austrailian front
The pill companies have had several articles on their desire to get higher prices out of Australia. It is now about to take front burner as negotions and terms become public. Today we have this report where 9 Democrats are afraid if the pill companies take the Australian front, there is no hope in America- http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s1028122.htmThe early strategy of the pill companies was to say that cheap pill prices in Australia is responsible for high prices of pills in the US because they were not paying their fair share of research. What I have come to believe is that all patents on medicine should be allowed to expire with no more patents approved. Not only does it allow a system that requires people to die in support of the most profitable industry in the world, they have become to powerful. They warp, reason and democracy and health itself.The National Institute of Health and the FDA have been steered by industry. They are corrupted and must be reformed. The government does huge amounts of research and sometimes it goes all the way to a patentable product. Now there is where I wish we had some investigation, but we don't. The governments of the world should fund research so that the power motive and the ability to advertise and gimmick the patent system is gone.The insurance industry cherry picks their customers and writes riders for previous conditions and has gamed the system the best they can. If you do not have insurance why should your cost at the hospital or doctor be two, three, or four times as much as when insurance pays for it. You should not. The system is gamed. People without insurance are supporting the bottom line of insurance companies.We are being ruled by monopolies where truth is inverted and the entrance to the correct path is hidden. It is time to end patents for medicine. The medicine you take should not be determined by a doctors portfolio or the junkets the pill companies offer. Advertising should not push for a new patented pill that is no better than the one whose patent just expired.It is all upside down. It is all a health care system and government gone amuck. Dennis Kucinich has the courage to say we need national health care. If he would let the pill companies have it with their abuses, he may not win, but he would prove to many that he is the best candidate for the job. Even if DK goes down, DK is not out. In four years America may catch up with him, for those of us still alive.Canada spends six percent of its GDP to provide for everyone. The US spends fourteen percent for those the system lets live.
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Comment #7 posted by global_warming on January 19, 2004 at 15:30:51 PT
Think of the children
Comment#2 "Think of the children. Leave them a corrupted government that serves industry. Give them radical judges and a consolidated media in bed with those that took over the government of the people. Borrow and spend and get those interest rates up there. Import oil and drive down the dollar and get that $300 billion in currency to come home.There will always be addictions from sex to gamling to substances. There does not always have to be a black market that encourages violence and corruption and the erosion of democracy and the building of a police state. "If the prohibitionists were truly concerned about the children, they would eliminate the middle man (Ogilvy & Mather ) no doubt high priced adults sucking up this free money, and go right to the kids, and offer them a few bucks, I know when I was a kid, money was always tight, never had enough,..Choices and the ability to choose is what our lives have evolved to consider as central in our freedoms, we cannot go back, we will resist going back to slavery, no air conditioning, even the Beduins have some of the gifts of this evolved and modern world.
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Comment #6 posted by jose melendez on January 19, 2004 at 13:15:26 PT
Yahoo!
I hope H+R Block makes money on the ads too, maybe they would fund a study that confirms how much tax money cannabis prohibition costs, and actually advertise the results!
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Comment #5 posted by FoM on January 19, 2004 at 13:05:01 PT
Off Topic: Willie Nelson Doing a Superbowl Ad
I hope Willie makes lots of money from this commercial for H&R Block and The Superbowl. http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=SVBIZINK4.story&STORY=/www/story/01-19-2004/0002091458&EDATE=MON+Jan+19+2004,+08:02+AM
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Comment #4 posted by TroutMask on January 19, 2004 at 13:03:09 PT
My professional response to this study
No kidding, Sherlock!-TM
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Comment #3 posted by VitaminT on January 19, 2004 at 13:02:14 PT
Just tell your friends . . .
you forgot the bag of weed because you were STONED!
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Comment #2 posted by Virgil on January 19, 2004 at 12:30:01 PT
Not true
An ongoing study by the National Institute on Drug Abuse has concluded that the advertising program of the White House anti-drug office has had little impact on its primary target: America's teenagers. It along with the trillion wasted on fighting a bogus problems of substance abuse while ignoring the real health problems that have governments taxing and borrowing in huge fashion will affect them there wholw lives. The mismanagement of the public purse will give them a debt they will pay their entire lives. We are seeing that Generation x had the highest standard of living yet for Americans. The generation taking to the work force now will not have the same standard of living as the boomers. Resources will be more scarce and there will be more people competing for them. The federal government is paying for these ads with borrowed funds that only add to the $18 billion a month they now pay. It is like eating candy when the body already has enough calories in the diet. It is not needed and it is truly a lips to hips conversion. All of this waste is debt. Think of the children. Leave them a corrupted government that serves industry. Give them radical judges and a consolidated media in bed with those that took over the government of the people. Borrow and spend and get those interest rates up there. Import oil and drive down the dollar and get that $300 billion in currency to come home.There will always be addictions from sex to gamling to substances. There does not always have to be a black market that encourages violence and corruption and the erosion of democracy and the building of a police state. This is our country on prohibition. Would it not be better if we called a Truth and regulated Miracle Weed and treated substance abuse as a health problem and dropped the drug category in the primary discussion?
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Comment #1 posted by E_Johnson on January 19, 2004 at 12:02:39 PT
What's war without plunder?
"While the drug office has enjoyed some strong congressional support, it also has strong critics on Capitol Hill who have questioned both the ads effectiveness and the use of Ogilvy, which earlier settled for $1.8 million civil charges that it overbilled the government for its ad work on the anti-drug account. Two former Ogilvy officials were recently indicted on charges related to those disputed billings."Roman soldiers thought of pillaging and plundering as part of their pay for going into battle for the Empire.
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