Canada, U.S. Relationship Seems Strained

Canada, U.S. Relationship Seems Strained
Posted by CN Staff on July 17, 2003 at 22:54:05 PT
By Tom Cohen, Associated Press
Source: Associated Press
Toronto -- Canada and the United States, strategic allies with the world's longest undefended border and biggest trade partnership, often refer to themselves as family. But today, the relationship seems more like a family feud.With a litany of policy complaints, trade disputes and political slights from both sides, all agree on the main source: abrasive relations between Canada's liberal prime minister, Jean Chretien, and conservative President Bush.
"They have developed a poor rapport and that has trickled down," said Chris Sands, director of the Canada Project at the Washington-based Center for Strategic and International Studies. "The Washington-Ottawa relationship is terrible, probably the worst it's been in about 60 years, if not ever."In the final months of his decade-long tenure, Chretien is asserting Canada's liberal leanings, bolstering Canadians' belief that their country is more progressive than their southern neighbor. Issues such as legalizing same-sex marriage and possession of small amounts of marijuana top the summer political agenda.No one is suggesting a permanent rift between two countries with such closely integrated economies, with trade worth $1.4 billion a day.Daily contacts across the border remain unaffected, Sands noted. "It's just we have two governments that are acting badly and not getting along," he said.Ideological differences between a Republican president and Liberal Party prime minister were expected. But the level of divisiveness was not.It started before Bush took office in January 2001, when Chretien's nephew, then ambassador to Washington, was quoted suggesting that a victory by Democrat Al Gore would be better for Canada.Then came the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, when Canada accepted hundreds of flights diverted from U.S. airspace after three hijacked commercial planes crashed into the World Trade Center and Pentagon.Bush subsequently failed to thank Canada or even mention the Canadian help in his State of the Union address the following January.U.S. officials including Secretary of State Colin Powell and Ambassador Paul Cellucci have tried to make amends, invoking the family reference and thanking Canada for its post-Sept. 11 help, but problems have multiplied.Chretien's communications director was quoted calling Bush a moron in a private conversation last year - and Chretien failed to condemn her or accept her first resignation offer, though she eventually did resign. Later criticism of Bush by Chretien and other Liberal Party politicians further fanned U.S. anger.While Canada took part in last year's U.S.-led military campaign that ousted Taliban rule in Afghanistan, an accidental bombing by a U.S. pilot that killed four Canadian soldiers soured the mission.When Chretien refused to join the war on Iraq in March because it lacked U.N. authorization, resentment south of the border spread. Bush canceled a May 5 visit to Ottawa.With Chretien leaving office in February, Bush will wait to work things out with his successor, said Lawrence Martin, author of a Chretien biography."Bush thinks, 'Let's not worry about (Chretien). We'll pick up with the next guy and improve things with them,' " he said.The North American neighbors have worked together well on some crucial issues, such as border security, but are moving far apart on social issues.Chretien is trying to cement a legacy by promoting a social democratic vision like that of his former colleague and boss, Pierre Trudeau.On Thursday, his government proposed a new legal definition of marriage as the "lawful union of two persons," which would allow same-sex marriage throughout country. The government also has proposed making possession of small amounts of marijuana akin to a traffic offense, with no criminal record.Such measures, supported by most Canadians, bolster a national belief of a more caring society than the United States. Canada bans capital punishment, has universal health care and a national gun registry, maintains diplomatic ties with Cuba and spends minimally on its military, all of which distinguish it from its more powerful, dominant neighbor."In the back of their minds, the most distinctive thing that makes Canadians different is that they don't want to be Americans," said Wayne Reilly, a political science professor at Hollins University in Virginia.As a nation that historically supports multilateralism, Canadians dislike Bush's unilateral policies, such as withdrawing from the Kyoto Protocol and rejecting a new International Criminal Court.Canadians also resent what is perceived as bullying U.S. trade policy, including punitive duties imposed on softwood lumber.In such a climate, every issue seems to carry some hint of U.S. ill will, whether real or imagined, such as overcautious warnings by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention about the recent SARS outbreaks in Toronto or the lingering U.S. ban on Canadian beef after a lone case of mad cow disease detected in Alberta.A poll released Monday by Environics Research Group Ltd. gave Bush the lowest popularity ratings of any U.S. president in the last 20 years, though most Canadians still have a positive image of the United States.Derek Leebosh, an Environics senior associate, said Bush's personal style - anti-intellectual, overtly religious, anti-cosmopolitan_ goes against Canadian sensibilities."It's almost like a perfect checklist of all the American elements Canadians tend to abhor," he said.AP reporter Siobhan McDonough in Washington contributed to this story. Source: Associated PressAuthor: Tom Cohen, Associated PressPublished: Friday, July 18, 2003Copyright: 2003 Associated Press Related Articles: Values: U.S. - Canada Contrast! Canada! - Washington Post and Confused - Detroit Metro Times 
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Comment #33 posted by paulpeterson on July 21, 2003 at 10:17:34 PT
E Johnson
Please accept that I do NOT expect to PROVE that Rasta's naturally flowed from Shivites. That is not the point.The fact is, however, that in the ancient world, there always were maritime peoples that travelled the world in search of marketable goods (and ideas went with them).In that regard, there are enough facts of similar import (such as the propensity to wear dreadlocks AND to use cannabis as a religious sacrament) to suggest such a connection (and to try to win my day in court if you know what I mean).More to the point, of course, Amerika STILL HAS a world class First Amendment, etc., that guarantees RELIGIOUS FREEDOMS. Even more to the point, there are various court decisions (mostly the west coast) upholding the right of Rasta's to possess & use marijuana as a sacrament-under the RFRA of 1993-Bauer & Guererra-sp?Other cases, I believe from the 7th Circuit, specifically denote that a religion MUST HAVE CERTAIN INDICIA ie: sacred holidays, holy places, body of writings, heirarchy of leaders, basic tenets of religion, etc. Therein lies the rub: historical legitimacy helps to overcome the "pull up the ladder" tendency to dispel a person's claims as not supported by a long tradition.So now we have case precedent for Rasta's to use their sacrament, but wait-they only take blacks into their church. This smacks of elitism, of exclusionism and repression in itself. To counter this tendency, one must consider that there are other traditions of sacramental usage, apart from the Rasta's.Of course, under the current case-law, the only salient point is whether a person "sincerely believes" his "religious convictions", not whether they are rationally based or not (US v. Ballard, 1938 I think).We all know, of course, how hard it is to both 1) have the facts perfect for a test case to proceed & 2) ensure that the case gets heard at each step and continuing without some judge taking a dodge and ruling on "procedural" grounds to DITCH THE CHALLENGE in the first place.I guess what I am saying is SO WHAT IF THE RASTA'S DON'T WANT TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH AN EVEN OLDER TRADITION OF SACRAMENTAL USAGE? That is only their own elitism getting in the way of political advancement of a common cause!And why would you take such pains to try to dispel the connection so easily arrived at between ancient SHIVAISM and later effitist adolescence from the neo-Shivite group they call themselves Rasta's WHO PRACTICE EXCLUSIONISM AND RACISM THEMSELVES? Are you just such a bigot yourself that must expel mongols at the gates of Rome?True, Hindu's and other mystic religions that preach self-internal bliss and total disregard for external reality tend to distance themselves from political involvement, to the betterment of those RULE DRONES. So why do you spend so much effort trying to dispel a coming together of the tribes so that we can WORK TOGETHER TO EXPEL THE INFIDELS IN GOVERNMENT CONTROL? Can't you see that your elitist and divisionist dribble only tends to word to the benefit of those same INFIDELS?At the same time that I am trying to convince a federal judge in Chicago that the Shivite tradition, played out through the Rasta movement, gives credence to the religious SINCERITY of my own belief structure and plans for sacramental usage, YOU TRY TO DEBUNK THE VERY LYNCHPIN OF MY LEGAL ARGUMENT, ie: long tradition of unbroken usage, shared by various splinter groups that, by their own even existence at this time yield credence to the SINCERITY, etc. (so I can get back to GO, if you get my drift).Is this EGO that might stand in the way of PROGRESS? I challenge you to explain yourself or apologize for trying to keep splintered peoples splintered!By the way, what is your religion?Sincerely, PAUL
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Comment #32 posted by afterburner on July 19, 2003 at 21:26:34 PT:
goneposthole & paulpeterson 
That is a fascinating and powerful link [ autism and cannabis: ]. It seems to indicate that autism, although perhaps dependent on a genetic predisposition, is triggered by auto-intoxication caused by vitamin, mineral, and amino acid deficiencies, which then cause chemical imbalances. The link to cannabis was weak at best. The UK propaganda blaming cannabis for schizophrenia is not convincing , being based not on double-blind clinical tests, but instead self-report case studies. Early researchers into "psychedelic" (mind-manifesting) plants used that term to emphasize the positive aspects of mind expansion, rather that the term psychotomimetic (psychosis-mimicking) favoured by prohibitionists. It seems researchers get what they search for, "set and setting," as Timothy Leary called it. It has been said, "You are what you eat." This is literally true, our bodies are composed of building blocks obtained from food. If the food is denatured, then deficiencies cause weak building blocks to build mal-functioning bodies. Of course, the psychiatric industry, like the medical industry wants a silver bullet to cure, or more correctly to suppress the symptoms of mental illness, just as the doctors and their pharmacists do with the physical body. The same problem exists for vitamins and such, as for cannabis, the pharmaceutical companies cannot patent the building blocks of nature. We don't build strong bodies out of chemicals and pills. We build strong bodies out of nutritious food. The list of other illnesses mentioned in the link strongly parallels the list of ailments, which are helped by cannabis, which has been described as a partial controller of balance and homeostasis of all the major body systems. "All of your major body systems, meaning your cardio-vascular system, your nervous system, your endocrine system, your circulatory system, all of these organized entities are largely controlled, not that they're only controlled by, but are as an important component of balance and homeostasis is
the cannabinoid system. The pituitary gland is often termed the master gland, and yet it has cannabinoid receptors on it." --Dr. Robert Melamede, "Let's Roll!" 
Running Time: 20 min 
Date Entered: 29 Mar 2002I also did a search recently for "niacin and schizophrenia" and came up with the following title:Vitamin B-3 & Schizophrenia: Discovery, Recovery, Controversy.
Author: Abram Hoffer.
Published By: Quarry Press.
Paper Text.
Published: January 1997.I have read another book written by Abram Hoffer, describing his clinical treatments of schizophrenia with mega-vitamin B3 or niacin. I don't recall the title. Checking for other books by Abram Hoffer, I found the following two titles:Orthomolecular Nutrition.
Author: Abram Hoffer, Morton Walker.
Published By: Keats Publishing, Incorporated.
Published: January 1990.This book seems to expand the concept to include various vitamin and phytochemical therapies.Beautiful Minds: Living with Schizophrenia.
Author: Abram Hoffer.
Published By: Quarry.
Trade Paperback.
Published: February 2003.Is there anyone that doesn't have a friend or relative with some type of mental distress?ego transcendence is possible because of the brains's own "wiring," the endogenous chemicals and receptor sites; ego destruction sedates the brain in order to produce rootless warriors, reactive machine bodies without emotions or independent thought.
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Comment #31 posted by E_Johnson on July 19, 2003 at 15:49:03 PT
Legalistic vs. Mystic religion and MJ
This thread has me thinking -- marijuana is usally implicated in the mystical aspect of a religion. Religion has a legalistic aspect as a search for finding laws that allow people to live together, and a mystic aspect as a search of the individual for a way to live with oneself.In Islam, hashish is associated with the Sufi branch which is the mystical side of Islam.Hinduism is mostly mysticism, there isn't a lot of emphasis on changing the extrnal world.Rastafarianism takes on a mystic interpretation of the legalistic narrative of the Old Testament.
The problem with adhering to mystic religion is that it emphasizes individual enlightenment, which often comes at the expense of social engagement in organized political activity.This creates conditions that can disempower the group politically in their society and leave them open to abuse by the group that has their religious identity invested in the concept of external laws.Maybe that is part of the dynamic in cannabis prohibition through the ages.But mystic religions survive and cannabis has survived, probably because turning inward has rewards of its own.There seems to be a kind of dialectic tension at work between opposites at war with one another yet reliant upon each other.If cannabis makes people more attracted to the mystical aspect of religion, then it would make cannabis users more vulnerable to the tension between mystics and legalistics.
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Comment #30 posted by E_Johnson on July 19, 2003 at 14:52:43 PT
Sheba was African not Hindu
I cannot understand why a movement that is African and bases its own mythology and decent on the Jewish story of liberation in the Old Testament is seen as some kind of a Hindu movement. Is it because blacks and Jews are not politically appealing to some faction of the marijuana movement and the Aryan Hindus are?Rasta is a movement that portrays ITSELF as a movement of a blended Jewish and African culture that descends from a Jewish King and an African Queen. Rastas believe in a God that was consciopusly combined using Ra from Egyptian religion and Yahweh from Judaism.Is this because the Hindus are considered Aryan and that makes the connection more politically appealing than seeing the Rastas as African Jews?The reason why African slaves took up the story of the Babylonian captivity as their own is because this is a very powerful narrative of liberation from actual physical state bondage that is not present in any other religion.Hindusim is mystical and internal. Hinduism is a politically abdicating religion because it doesn't argue with the authority of the state. Mystical religions discourage political involvement. Personal transcendance is presented as the preferable path to arguing with the external world. The philosphy of being reborn in a different life means people can ignore marijuana prohibition in this life and just hope it is gone in their next one.The Old Testament is full of stories of indivudals and groups struggling with the issue of state power vs. power of God. Judaism did not advocate disappearing into an internal spiritual state. Judaism argues for engaging in a moral struggle with state authority. Look at the ACLU. How many Jewish names do you see defending our civil liberties, and how many Hindu names?Where are all of the Hindus who should be supporting our movement now?Judaism argues for justice. Hinduism argues for karma. Right now what we need is justice. It's really strange to me, this emphasis on Hinduism, when I don't see any real Hindus around today who give a darn about the marijuana legalization movement
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Comment #29 posted by paulpeterson on July 19, 2003 at 06:43:22 PT
Thanks for the site you gave-I tried to scan through it quickly, and can't seem to find the cannabis connection therein. Please let me know approximately how far into this treatise this is mentioned.Of course, this article roundly suggests that there may, in fact, be a single "unifying theory", uniting a whole bunch of errors in metabolism involved in many auto-immune disorders (nicely supporting my mis-shapen protein arguments).Thanks again for your supporting words-Yes, I agree that Rasta-farians were at least "influenced" by precursor peoples with similar designs and traditions.I, for one, note that Joseph of Aramathea (sp?) was apparently well-known in England, Paul of "Tarsus" was from Spain, the entire middle-East was under united rule by the Romans and Greeks prior, meaning that long voyages throughout the empire wer quite regular, ie: Jesus would certainly been availed of a wide variety of influences.The fact that Solomon had thousands of wives, from all over the world, with religious traditions brought into the temple all, and Sheba had her own brand, which started the Rasta's, doesn't depreciate the potential for Hindu influence, in fact, this bolsters it-Sheba probably knew of a few dreadlocks herself from her upbringing, whereever that was. Just please, don't expect me or anybody else to be able to "prove" that connection-too many pograms have interceded in the few years since these things were known for there to be any "smoking gun" evidence left. (Bush would probably agree that just a few people trying to hide information can make it very hard to produce the facts!-not that I think those WMD exist at all, out of the belt-way, that is!)Thanks again for the input. PAUL
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Comment #28 posted by freedom fighter on July 18, 2003 at 22:01:46 PT
Is there any cure
for those neocons who got neoconazied?I just met a drug dealer today and he said, " I hate drugs!!!".That's the logic...pazff
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Comment #27 posted by goneposthole on July 18, 2003 at 18:36:18 PT
Too Bad, Neighbor
neoplastic neologic. Where is it going, benign or malignant?Canada wants to move forward, and the big bully to her south foolishly attempts to hold her back, blocks the door. such fools, those neocons.
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Comment #26 posted by lag on July 18, 2003 at 15:44:54 PT
Two Bad Neighbors
The Simpsons authors need to write another episode like Two Bad Neighbors, wher GHW Bush moves in across the street from the Simpsons. It would be this time between the Canadians and America, with his son. Although they did a brilliant commentary this last season; they performed the Star Spangled Banner but with Al Yankovic style lyrics, but they did perform the entire Canadian anthem and formed a large maple leaf. All this at a sporting event....sacriledge.Canada Rocks!
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Comment #25 posted by E_Johnson on July 18, 2003 at 14:24:43 PT
This is a plain simple fact
Any group that claims that their ancestors were held captive in Babylon and longed to return to Zion is claiming that their ancestors are Jewish, that's just a historical and Biblical fact.
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Comment #24 posted by FoM on July 18, 2003 at 13:17:43 PT
News Brief from Oregon Public Broadcasting
Protestors Greet Ashcroft in PortlandBy Ley GarnettPORTLAND, OR 2003-07-18 (OPB Radio) - Attorney General John Ashcroft is in Portland today, meeting with members of the Joint Terrorism Taskforce. When he arrived for the meeting Ashcroft was greeted by hundreds of protestors gathered outside the Hatfield Federal Courthouse. OPB's Ley Garnett describes the scene.It's a raucous scene here. Sidewalks are blocked around the courthouse. A line of police motorcycles and bicycles are in front of the demonstrators across the street. Protestors are holding signs reading "Stop Ashcroft," "Free Liberty Now" and other signs that say things we can't repeat on the radio.Demonstrators represent groups from physician-assisted suicide, medical marijuana and abortion rights. They're hoping the attorney general will notice their presence before he leaves town. Copyright 2003, OPB 
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Comment #23 posted by goneposthole on July 18, 2003 at 12:47:08 PT
Paul Peterson
this may be of interest to you, I stumbled upon it when doing a search on 'autism and cannabis: me, E_J, but the eclectic origins of Ras Tafari might suggest some influence from Hinduism; far be it from me to actually know with any certitude, though.
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Comment #22 posted by paulpeterson on July 18, 2003 at 11:22:34 PT
They're probably not far from the truth about Alz & MCD. Alzheimer's involves toxicity to a buildup of particles called Amyloid-Beta & glutamates, peroxides & tau particles. Some of these are, in fact, misshapen, turned inside out, similar to what happens in diabetes. The "prions" found in MCD (also exactly the same disease as deer wasting syndrome or whatever they call that). The one tie that binds all is the three stages in progression: 1) genetic tendency (might be a weakness in a gene OR a developmental artifact like lack of nutrients-Omega 3 or folic acid, for instance), 2) early trigger such as exposure to type 2 milk protein before 6 months of age, 3) some extreme trigger to the immune system such that it becomes hyperactive (such as 5th grade mercury laden innoculation, which triggered my own son's diabetes), 4) the immune system attacks some cell type due to a confusion of identity with an "invader" such as type 2 milk-looks like the insulin cells that get attacked, 5) continual usage of milk just extends the attack until all cells are gone.In Alzheimer's, these A-B particles break lose from an insulting chemical reaction, they build up to "fibroids", those collect as "plaques", then glutamate levels rise until all neurons in the area start to die (and no replacements can get in due to the "gunk"). The Mad Cow "prions" probably work just like "free radicals" or "excito-toxins" (remember that pesticides work just like heavy metals such as cadmium, similar to hormones).Either way, of course, cannabinoids are POTENT ANTI-OXIDANTS and have been proven to be neuro-protective, also in "triggering" a "complex internal signaling mechanism" to protect brain cells, they also protect against "excito-toxins" and also anti-inflammatories, also actually purge glutamates and tau particles, help to QUIET DOWN THE IMMUNE SYSTEM & DISCOURAGE THE FORMATION OF CLUMP in the blood-stream.Thanks for listening, of course, sorry for the length of the rant, let me know if you want any citations for articles on these things.In other words, yes, Johnny, there is a Santa Claus (a true gift giver in the way of treatment for all of these things, but they haven't directly proven that yet, since the DEA doesn't want us to know yet!) PAUL
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Comment #21 posted by E_Johnson on July 18, 2003 at 11:02:17 PT
I'm going to see it and report
A lot of movies like How to Deal that deal with "young love" have a formulaic family situation where the Dad is way under-involved in the family, the Mom is way over-involved in the family, and the seemingly crazy Grandma is revealed to be the wise soul who sits back and lets the action unfold but then intervenes with the crucial bit of common sense (or money) for the family that puts everything to rights in the end.It will be interesting if they give that role to the pot smoking granny. Nina Foch who plays the granny is a very well respected actress with a long career of playing complex adult women. She's now a professor in the USC Graduate Film School. She teaches film directing.I doubt that an esteemed and respected artist like Nina Foch would take on a slapstick role meant to demean potheads. I'm going to try to sit through it and see what it has to offer.
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Comment #20 posted by goneposthole on July 18, 2003 at 10:41:28 PT
Alzheimer's and Mad Cow
I read at that what is allegedly Alzheimer's disease is actually Mad Cow disease. 
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Comment #19 posted by FoM on July 18, 2003 at 10:33:15 PT
EJ I Saw That on NWI
Canadian and Gay so what I thought!
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Comment #18 posted by E_Johnson on July 18, 2003 at 10:28:28 PT
He's not just gay, he's Canadian!
"Some folks in the White House were apparently hopping mad when ABC News correspondent Jeffrey Kofman did a story on Tuesday's "World News Tonight" about the plummeting morale of U.S. soldiers stationed in Iraq.So angry, in fact, that the next day, a White House operative alerted cyber-gossip Matt Drudge to the fact that Kofman is not only openly gay, he's Canadian."
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Comment #17 posted by Sam Adams on July 18, 2003 at 10:08:43 PT
EJ you're probably right about the film
It may be the best vehicle for the message to get through! American Beauty is a vehicle that resonated a little better with me, but I'm a 30-something cynical drug policy activist, not a 14 year old girl! What the heck, I'll watch it when it comes out on cable.......
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Comment #16 posted by E_Johnson on July 18, 2003 at 09:58:12 PT
Sam Adams this is how I see it
I think this film sounds like an anti-puritan message flick for teens. Teaching them "How to Deal" with sexuality without shutting down and blocking it all out as the abstinence people want us to do.And it sounds like it sends a positive message of medical marijuana, how to deal with that, how to deal with granny smoking pot without throwing the whole county behind bars.Society does need to learn "How to Deal" with sex and drugs. The lack of being able to deal with these issues is reflected in the war we're fighting.
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Comment #15 posted by ErikGhint on July 18, 2003 at 09:58:04 PT
Virgil Comment 8
"But the exact question I want to know is are people in Ontario being arrested and is their cannabis consumption in public view? You would think someone from Ontario could answer that for us here."I smoke cannabis in public view with no worries. I have not heard of any arrests latley, but i know that police officers were not following the May 16th ruling, right away. In fact i talked to a cop sometime around the end of june, and he said that as of 3 days ago, there is nothign they can do about cannabis possession. (I was wondering why he said three days when the appeal challenge had been about 20 days prior to that, the court case had been about a month and a half prior to that, and the possession laws had actually been off the books for 2 years)
So anyways, if you come to Ontario and you know your rights, smoke as you please :)The rolling stones concert is going to be a tricky one. One is not aloud to bring alcohol to the concert but ciggaretts were not mentioned, and I highly doubt they will stop people from brining ciggaretts, so theoretically cannabis should be aloud as well. But you never know, is it really worth risking being kicked out of the concert for something you will be able to prove to them the next day?
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Comment #14 posted by firedog on July 18, 2003 at 09:47:42 PT
I don't know if there's been any "mad cow" disease in Washington, but we've certainly seen a lot of "mad cowboy" disease lately...
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Comment #13 posted by FoM on July 18, 2003 at 09:30:37 PT
I watch News World International from Canada to get real honest news about the world. The farm where the case of Mad Cow was found was the same farm where the U.S. sold cattle to them a few years back. I believe they were Black Angus. My sister is a volunteer for a Hospice program and she read the chart after a person died and it said what she died from MCD. It was not to be talked about she was told.
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Comment #12 posted by goneposthole on July 18, 2003 at 09:23:46 PT
mad cow disease in Alberta
It is probably a good idea to find out if any cases of mad cow disease have been documented in Washington, DC.  
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Comment #11 posted by FoM on July 18, 2003 at 09:10:23 PT
I get so angry about the way our country acts. I get so angry I can't even type what I feel. 
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Comment #10 posted by kaptinemo on July 18, 2003 at 09:03:25 PT:
Excuse me?
*Daily contacts across the border remain unaffected, Sands noted. "It's just we have two governments that are acting badly and not getting along," he said.*Let's look at this again: "Two governments...acting badly."Hmmm. Would you say bombing the bejeezis out of helpless Arab merchants and grocery shoppers, restaurant patrons, marriage celebrators, little kids and old farts is 'acting badly'? Unless you're a perfect clone of Genghis Khan, you'd have to agree that that is indeed a stellar definition of 'acting badly'.Now: do the bombs originate in a Canadian arms factory? Nope. Were they 'delivered' by Canadian planes? Nuh-uh. They certainly weren't dropped on Canadian orders.Look, I'm as American as they come (but don't call me a 'Yank', I was born south of the Mason-Dixon Line) but I am not blind to the excesses of my own nation out of cheap patriotism. Nor do I believe our ever-decent neighbors should be given short shrift, as Shrubya has. Who is 'acting badly'? Sure ain't the Maple Leaf crowd. They've been damned patient with the flaming arsenlochen that have taken over 1600 Pennsy Avenue. For the answer, follow the trail of US money falling out of special interest's suitcases as they head to Washington...and pound the desks and demand a war that has killed thousands of innocent people whose only crime was to live on sand that covers an effin' huge oil patch that the Cheney and his slimy oil buddies want. Acting badly?
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Comment #9 posted by FoM on July 18, 2003 at 08:49:10 PT
I Have a Question
Since there are no laws currently in Toronto concerning possession will people be allowed to take Cannabis to the Rolling Stones concert? If a person can take cigarettes they should be able to take Cannabis. Has anyone wondered that too? I read in an email list that a mother will take her medicine to the concert with her proof of having a medical exemption.
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Comment #8 posted by Virgil on July 18, 2003 at 08:44:08 PT
I second comment6
Busch the Brat is complaining that we cannot screw Canada enough. The most successful war criminal on the planet does not represent me or the public good. From day 1 they set out to boost the evaporation up and limit the trickle down starting with the heralded erogonomics laws enacted by Clinton to preserve the bodies of people put into the industrial machine using the same muscles and joints over and over until failure/disability.The evening news is as disingenuos as you can get and in a world under attack for its resources the only thing you can count on is a human interest story or a plug for the news magazine on later that night.I would say the news is a big fairy tale that does not start out with Once upon a time or end with a Lived happily ever after. As soon as Americans find a coffeeshop with reasonable prices you can expect Americans to cross the border. I remember the scene in Ghani where the Indians wanted to use their own salt and lined up to be whacked by the British that wanted otherwise. What will happen at the Rainbow Bridge between Niagara Falls, NY and Niagara Falls, Ontario? It is going to happen.I still wonder about the Marc Emery arrest in Winnepeg and Regina and if a motion might end it all as the prohibitionists have had their fangs knocked out. I also wonder if he will introduce a lawsuit for false imprisonment that cannot be ignored by the media blockade or at least expose the ones that still want to rant on for prohibition.But the exact question I want to know is are people in Ontario being arrested and is their cannabis consumption in public view? You would think someone from Ontario could answer that for us here.Hope to see you at the Rainbow Bridge come Labor Day.
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Comment #7 posted by FoM on July 18, 2003 at 08:27:49 PT
Good Morning Everyone
I'm looking for news but I haven't found any to post so far. The summer has always been a strange time for news. Either we have plenty or almost none. I also want to thank everyone for all the good comments and links that have been posted on CNews. We have become a great web site to learn. That's what I hoped it would become and it has. I receive e-mail from a few different lists and see harmony and purpose within each different list. We are making progress even in these terribly difficult times in our country. Thank you everyone! Back to looking for news! 
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Comment #6 posted by Richard Paul Zuckerm on July 18, 2003 at 06:24:49 PT:
One thing Canadians and other countries need to realize:
The Bush Family does not represent Americans. He represents International Corporations, including oil companies, pharmaceutical companies, weapons manufacturers, etc. President Bush is culpable for his lies as to Iraq's possession of WMDs, under the collective knowledge doctrine, which is a legal presumption that the knowledge of one officer in an investigation is imputed to all of the officers of the investigation, created by a published United States Supreme Court around 30 years ago and followed up-to-date. The collective knowledge doctrine.Please read the Web article entitled Shadow of the Swastika, Please log on to Your cooperation in this matter would be appreciated.Richard Paul Zuckerman, Box 159, Metuchen, N.J., 08840-0159, (Cell telephone number)(908) 403-6990, richardzuckerman2002;Diploma in Paralegal, New York University, 2003;Diploma in Truck Driving, Smith & Solomon School of Truck Driving, Edison, N.J., 1995;B.A. in Political Science, Kean University, 1987. 
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Comment #5 posted by Kegan on July 18, 2003 at 06:07:31 PT
"In the back of their minds, the most distinctive thing that makes Canadians different is that they don't want to be Americans," As a Canadian, I can say it isn't that we don't want to BE Americans..... it is that we don't want people to THINK we are Americans.The "American Personality" is perfectly..... and I mean PERFECTLY represented in George W. Bush.Is that what American's want?"Moron" is a POLITE term for Bush.Entry:  moronFunction:  nounDefinition:  stupidSynonyms:  addle-pate, ass, blockhead, bonehead, boob, cretin, dimwit, dingbat, dolt, dope, dork, dumbbell, dumbo, dummy, dunce, dunderhead, fool, goose, halfwit, idiot, ignoramus, imbecile, lamebrain, loony, loser, lunkhead, mental defective, muttonhead, nerd, numskull, retard, simp, simpleton, stoop, stupid, tomfool, zany 
Concept:  ignorance 
Source:  Roget's Interactive Thesaurus, First Edition (v 1.0.0)Even these are polite terms.
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Comment #4 posted by The GCW on July 18, 2003 at 05:59:59 PT
Cannada, gets it.How can someone hate His brother so much that He would will to cage Him for using a plant, God said was good? How does a powerful country allow such a person to take over? Is the “moron” able to actually go to any level of war over Cannada ending the practice of caging humans for possessing a tad of cannabis? If Cannada does what some U.S. states has done in decriminalizing cannabis, Bush is only poised to extend the wrath of the devil.We should be extending love, mercy, & peace.That will require the "moron" knowing Truth and Truth knowing the "moron". But the "moron" only seems to know evil and He does not know God.3 John 1:11, "Beloved, do not imitate what is evil, but what is good. The one who does good is of God; the one who does evil has not seen God." John 1:12, "...receive(d) a good testimony from... ...the truth itself..." GET YOUR TRUTH FROM THE TRUTH ITSELF.We can do that through the spirit of truth as told in John, 1 & 2 John and elsewhere.Truth has demension that man has not understood, even though Christ attemped to convey it... still it is elusive.Create the invironment to meet the Mind of Christ in Your own mind, together.Allow Christ to put His mind inside Your mind. Even just for a moment, to start with...Get Your testimony from "the truth itself".Get it.The Green Collar Worker
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Comment #3 posted by Sam Adams on July 18, 2003 at 05:47:52 PT
Ugh, can't believe I just sat through that...... some stunningly beautiful, spoiled high school girl has any real problems to worry about.....gross......weed and sex are only things your slutty friend and senile grandmother do, was this made by Disney or what?  Sorry but I think I'll stick with "Half-Baked".....
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Comment #2 posted by E_Johnson on July 17, 2003 at 23:40:09 PT
Watch the trailer
The film's trailer ends with her pot smoking grandmother telling her sweetly,"First loves never really end... Boy do I have the munchies!"
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Comment #1 posted by E_Johnson on July 17, 2003 at 23:28:46 PT
New teen flick features MMJ?
This Mandy Moore film How to Deal advertises that one of the things she has to deal with is a pot smoking grandmother.
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