cannabisnews.com: Police Weigh Options in Pandora's Box Raid
Police Weigh Options in Pandora's Box Raid
Posted by CN Staff on April 15, 2003 at 10:02:57 PT
By Doug Harlow, Staff Writer
Source: Kennebec Journal
Waterville — The question for police and prosecutors this week is not if there will be charges brought against the owners of specialty shop Pandora's Box on Main Street.The question is if the charges will be criminal under state law or civil, as they would be interpreted under a city ordinance prohibiting the sale of drug paraphernalia. "I want to consult with the chief and Detective (David) Caron and the other police officers involved in the investigation," District Attorney Evert N. Fowle said.
"I want to have a meeting with them soon and see the evidence and strategize." He said a decision could be reached by the end of this week. Pandora's Box, based in Presque Isle, had been open less than two weeks at 109 Main St. when Waterville police raided the store last Thursday. Police Chief John Morris said officers seized anything that they thought had to do with drugs —pipes, bongs, signs, T-shirts. "Anything made for or advocating the consumption and ingestion of illegal drugs," he said. The store in Waterville and another in Presque Isle are owned by Joseph Correale of Fort Fairfield. Correale visited Waterville last week after the raid, but declined to be interviewed. Caron said police confiscated 250 pipes of various size and description, including a large brass hookah pipe, along with 50 postal scales, plastic "bongs," water pipes, pipe screens and detoxification liquids designed to flush a person's system of illegal drugs. They also seized T-shirts with pictures of marijuana leaves on them and stickers saying such things "Got Weed?" and "Stoner Chicks Rock". Police also found a special mask attached to a pipe bowl designed to cover the smoker's face and head for greater access to the smoke. Other items on sale at the shop such as leather jackets, incense and shelves of sex toys and erotic devices were not taken in the raid. The store was open Friday, a day after the raid, but was closed for business Monday. Morris and Caron said the proximity of about 250 smoking pipes to items clearly advocating the use of marijuana made the objects for sale in the store illegal drug paraphernalia. Fowle said the city ordinance forbidding the sale of such items has been on the books for 20 years. He said the merchandise for sale at Pandora's Box was not the same as the items that were being sold at Happy Trails, a boutique located just four doors down Main Street. Happy Trails was raided in September 1999. Police confiscated about $10,000 worth of merchandise, mostly pipes. A judge later ruled that police had not proven that the pipes were intended to be used to smoke illegal substances. The merchandise was returned to the owners, in effect setting a precedent that the items were not drug paraphernalia. Fowle said in the case of Pandora's Box, the pipes and bongs were for smoking marijuana and that he intends to prove it. Source: Kennebec Journal (ME)Author: Doug Harlow, Staff Writer Published: Tuesday, April 15, 2003Copyright: 2003 Blethen Maine Newspapers Inc.Contact: kjedit centralmaine.comWebsite: http://www.centralmaine.com/Related Article:Warrant Explains Pandora's Box Raid http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread15949.shtml CannabisNews -- Paraphernalia Archiveshttp://cannabisnews.com/news/list/paraphernalia.shtml
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Comment #31 posted by Truth on April 21, 2003 at 17:15:40 PT
Cannabis Culture
2nd annual toker's bowl in Vancouver, May 1-4see you all in a couple of weeks.
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Comment #30 posted by ekim on April 21, 2003 at 06:45:09 PT
AB you mean those in favor of the Truth Bill
Is that info posted as to who is supporting the Truth Bill. Maybe the Norml Conference will have some pointers for the upcomming elections. A few years ago a Vermont group found out that 90 some percent of the eratication program for cannabis was done on Hemp. I found that study breath taking please someone post it for Earthday tomorrow. Happy Earth Day to All.
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Comment #29 posted by afterburner on April 21, 2003 at 01:37:28 PT:
In the Spirit of the Ann Arbor SUN.
In the spirit of the Ann Arbor SUN's Expose-A-Narc campaign, we need an Out-your-Prohibitionist-Politician (OyPP). Next year are more federal elections with all Representatives to the House, as many a one-third of the Senators, and the George Bush regime's jobs on the line. Vote for cannabis liberalization by electing federal leaders, and their state, county, township, and city counterparts that are cannabis-friendly and vote out the prohibitionists. (OyPP). Spread the word.ego destruction or ego transcendence, that is the question.
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Comment #28 posted by FoM on April 20, 2003 at 20:18:15 PT
freedom fighter
That was so sweet! Happy Easter to you! I have many articles set up to post when the page gets fixed. Thanks for caring. I'm like a lost puppy without CNews.
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Comment #27 posted by freedom fighter on April 20, 2003 at 20:10:11 PT
We want
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Comment #26 posted by FoM on April 19, 2003 at 17:53:33 PT
Swampie
I checked in at 7:35 and waited a few minutes but no one was there so I left. I wanted to wish you and your family the best.
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Comment #25 posted by Lehder on April 19, 2003 at 14:51:24 PT
activists and money
"Too many progressives look at money as inherently tainted. We play a
game of keep-away, bragging about who's broke. Meanwhile, urban
pop culture has no compunction about acknowledging the value of
money. Money can get you cars, clothes, sex and what passes for
respect. Money, specifically the U.S. dollar, is the world's lingua franca.
Many activists who presume to speak for the urban "underclass" talk
about up-ending the economic system, as if that's what most people
want. If our economy is a sinking ship, many would settle for a berth on
the upper decks. One of the most revolutionary things artists and activists could do is
conduct their lives not as poverty crusades, all sackcloth and ashes, but
as crusades to end poverty, including our own. Learning how to manage
money – and sharing that information with others – is transformative. "http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15661IF you have a little cash that you don't need at your finger tips and it is sitting in a bank account you might be making 1.8% tops on it; in a CD not much more than 3%. But you can get 8+% from Nuveen quality preferred fund, a leveraged fund of interest bearing preferred stocks. The principal can vary so you could possibly lose a little, but the high interest, paid moonthly, should make it up, and the volatility is nothing like the typical stock. http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=JPS&d=tIf you are more conservative, buy corporate bonds. For example, you can buy Ford 6.7% bonds maturing April 15 next year, paying about 4.8% now, 3% better than your bank, at least 1% better than a CD that locks up your cash for 5 years. Find the web sites, call investor relations, and these companies will be glad to show you the ropes. It will take you about 1 hour on monday to learn about all there is to know for all this and you'll be glad of the extra cash.The Nuveen fund can be sold at any time for mkt value. You can also sell the bonds at any time but there will be a fee and if interest rates have risen you'll get less principal than you paid. Better to just let them mature and change to cash without any charge. That's why I stick with short maturities. I don't worry about Ford defaulting on the bonds even if it were to go bankrupt - the g would not allow them to default. So stick with big companies that the g cannot allow to default, and stick with bonds that are maturing soon, like in 1-2 years, and stick with the lower grade but still investment grade bonds - BBB in this case - for the better interest. You can get more interest than this, but then you've got to wait 10-20 years for the return of your principal or else you've got to buy junk bonds and could lose everthing.Do not buy corporate bonds in a bond fund. A rise in interest rates will cause your principal to fall indefinitely. You must stick with the specific individual bonds of companies so that you have specific maturity dates and you'll always get your money back even if the bonds are down in value in the interim.I've been doing this sort of stuff for nickels and dimes for many years. It helped me through school when I seldom had more than $1000 to work with. You don't have to be rich to make a little extra without reporting for a piss test. 5% on $1000 for a year is $50. That could be $52.50 the next year or lunch five days a week for two weeks or enough to get laid right away.Abbie Hoffman used to boast of his poverty, but I want you to live as well as you can while fighting the system. I like the way you spend your money better than the way the g spends it. Better that these profits be in your hands than in the barbarians'.
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Comment #24 posted by FoM on April 19, 2003 at 11:37:17 PT
Swampie
I'm glad the chat helped and I'll try to get to the chat at 7:30 but if the site is fixed by then I probably will be so busy posting articles that I might not make it. I hope you can get back on line quickly and I hope all goes well for you. I was able to leave a message on Matt's machine and sent him an email so I know he will fix it as soon as he can. I haven't found any video or articles from the conference. Maybe a video will be up on line later. I don't know. They had a live conference a few years ago I remember.
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Comment #23 posted by SWAMPIE on April 19, 2003 at 11:29:05 PT
Article-U-Ating......
FoM,thanks for the chat last night,it helped.The articles are showing up on the recent comments,but many might not know about it.Observer told me he was going to wear a stovepipe hat with a webcam,and record/live-feed it to us.haven't heard a word since thursday.hope you get ahold of someone,I'll be at the chat tonite like last nite if anyone wants to go there.(7:30-?)I'll be there as I can as we are moving.I'll check back approx every 15 minutes... Enjoy the sun,onwardthroughthefoggggg!!!! SWAMPIE
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Comment #22 posted by FoM on April 19, 2003 at 10:34:38 PT
puff_tuff
Thanks I got them and will try. I know how nice it would be to get a break and I hate to interrupt Matt's time away from the computer. He is very good at what he does and we all are lucky to have him. This couldn't have happened at a worse time. You know it's like you say well at least this didn't happen. Well it did and I can't help but think we learn patience from many situations in life and this glitch is teaching me a good lesson in patience. LOL!
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Comment #21 posted by Richard Paul Zuckerm on April 19, 2003 at 10:31:43 PT:
LEGISLATING MORALITY IS NOT COST EFFECTIVE
Legislating morality, whether it be drug laws, prostitution laws, gambling laws, is not cost effective.
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Comment #20 posted by puff_tuff on April 19, 2003 at 10:26:58 PT
FoM
I just sent you 2 numbers, I hope my E-mail address for you is current, let me know.
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Comment #19 posted by FoM on April 19, 2003 at 10:09:03 PT
puff_tuff
You have my email address. Could you send me Matt's number? That way calling his home first might be the best. I have Matt's number somewhere because I've talked to him on the phone before but I just don't know where I put it. Duh!
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Comment #18 posted by puff_tuff on April 19, 2003 at 10:02:19 PT
FoM
Do you want Matt's home phone number, perhaps someone there can forward a message for you. I'll post it here if you like, but you may want to delete it afterwards.Go ahead and try the hotel, no harm in leaving a message for someone.
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Comment #17 posted by FoM on April 19, 2003 at 09:33:36 PT
puff_tuff
What should I do? This is one of those issues I'm not sure how to handle.I want to thank everyone for posting and checking in even though the news isn't getting posted and the front page is most definitely lacking a lot to say the least. I know the problem isn't serious this time. It's a glitch that Matt will need to fix and it will be fine I'm sure. The last time it broke was very bad but there were serious reasons for that crash.
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Comment #16 posted by FoM on April 19, 2003 at 09:24:34 PT
Thanks puff_tuff
I am not sure if I should call or wait until they get back. I hate to bother anyone at the conference. This is the first time the site has ever been down more then a few hours. I'm glad the news isn't crazy but I do have quite a few lined up to post when I can.
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Comment #15 posted by puff_tuff on April 19, 2003 at 09:19:39 PT
Contact
Hi FoMI think Richard and crew are staying here,Hyatt Regency San Francisco HotelTel: +1 415 788 1234
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Comment #14 posted by FoM on April 19, 2003 at 07:43:00 PT
A Request
Hi Everyone,I still haven't heard back from Matt about the site being down. I can't seem to locate a phone number to call Richard Lake or Matt Elrod. If anyone has their phone number would you let me know. I have Matt's number somewhere but I can't locate it. Thanks!
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Comment #13 posted by CorvallisEric on April 19, 2003 at 03:11:19 PT
Oops
Not NPR but heard on many of the same stations that carry NPR. The Savvy Traveler is produced by Minnesota Public Radio and distributed by Public Radio International
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Comment #12 posted by CorvallisEric on April 19, 2003 at 02:59:04 PT
Savvy Traveler show on NPR
Sorry if this repeats someone else's post since I've been too preoccupied to read much.This weekend's "Savvy Traveler" has a really remarkable opening piece on Vancouver, including a short interview with Renee Boje. Oddly enough, no mention of the 4/20 connection. Americans are really traveling to Canada now, in lieu of going overseas. Many people think of Vancouver as a quaint city with wonderful little markets; a place where you can go out for brisk walks in the early morning. But reporter Patricia Murphy has discovered there’s a cloud hanging over the city -- and let’s just say it’s not a rain cloud. High Times magazine voted Vancouver, British Columbia, as the top spot for smoking pot. Patricia checks out the city’s “Green Zone.”The linked page has RealAudio for this segment and a little slide show.
Savvy Traveler - Weekend of April 18, 2003
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Comment #11 posted by freedom fighter on April 19, 2003 at 01:00:42 PT
Lehder,
Just curious what kind of treatment for dissents??Hard drugs??"treatment" concept is kool for those who needs it. The concept of treating someone is such a great idea as long it is filled with truth.. Got 3 more weeks to go and I am supposedly out of the "system", I only try not to let this """treatmentscam""" get to me.. It's kinda hard for me to believe that there actually human beings who act like a machine going like this, " Men who smoke weed will grow tittes and Women who smoke weed will grow beard! Or else I will be force to shove valium(junk) in your throat!"Ask someone who never been through this if they ever think otherwise if they had to go through a treatmentscam. I can promise you that 100% of the time they will just say....NO!I thunk me gonna smok a nice little bowl... Heeeeyyyyy!!!!I'm blowing my favorite wacky tobacccoo pipe!pazff
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Comment #10 posted by Lehder on April 18, 2003 at 19:05:50 PT
terror, totalitarianism, nihilism
In the near future, dissent of any kind will be regarded as a perversion requiring treatment.http://www.onlinejournal.com/Commentary/041503Shivani/041503shivani.htmlAnis Shivani of Harvard is one of the most insightful writers on totalitarianism. You can enter his name in the search engine at counterpunch.org and find several more articles. His three books are listed at the end of the linked article.
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Comment #9 posted by FoM on April 18, 2003 at 18:20:29 PT
Swampie
It was nice talking to you. Some of my comments didn't show up though. Hang in there!
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Comment #8 posted by SWAMPIE on April 18, 2003 at 17:15:10 PT
YOU MISSED ME
Was there when you counted eight,nine...try again???
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Comment #7 posted by FoM on April 18, 2003 at 17:14:33 PT
Swampie
I came to the chat and saw your comments and typed replys but they never showed up. I wanted you to know I tried so the chat isn't working right yet. Maybe observer hasn't gotten it fixed. He was checking on what was wrong. I think he's at the conference too.
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Comment #6 posted by SWAMPIE on April 18, 2003 at 16:59:56 PT
C-NEWS CHAT....
I am trying to get a chat going tonite for those of us that are at C-News tonite,I'll check in every 15 minutes starting at 8:00 pm eastern if you want to have a chat...
See you there
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Comment #5 posted by FoM on April 18, 2003 at 16:57:42 PT
Hi Swampie
I think the chat should be ok. The problem has to do with posting the 16,000 article. That's when it went poof! I just looked at the NORML schedule and Matt might be done. I feel bad for him because you try to go away and relax and ta da! something goes wrong. I appreciate Matt and how hard he works. I'm sorry that we are missing some good articles but will post them when the site is fixed. I'm sorry about your Dad going into Hospice. Is he at his home? Hospice came to our place for 2 years and made it so much easier. It's hard I know and my prayers are with you. I might try to come to the chat. I'm just distracted because of the volume of news I have to post.
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Comment #4 posted by SWAMPIE on April 18, 2003 at 16:48:15 PT
Fun With Chats And Headlines.....
Hi,all...Saw the chats are down,as well as the front page,if the C-News chat is on,I will be on it now if anyone wants to talk.Hope everything is well with all.We have been moving,and Dad is in hospice.See you at the chat..Ken
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Comment #3 posted by FoM on April 18, 2003 at 16:32:58 PT
i420
It's just broken for now. Matt Elrod went to NORML's Conference and that's why it isn't fixed yet. It had to break when Matt was away since that's the way things seem to happen at least for me. I've emailed him and if he doesn't get back with me tonight I was contact the conference and see if they can page him. I have a number of articles to post as soon as I can. They're getting back up big time! It will get fixed as soon as possible so please don't worry. You can comment with no problems and that makes me happy. At least we can communicate ok.
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Comment #2 posted by i420 on April 18, 2003 at 16:16:14 PT
FOM !!!!!!!!!!!!What is wrong with the main page??
FOM !!!!!!!!!!!!What is wrong with the main page??The articles are gone and it say "view next 30 articles" instead.
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Comment #1 posted by John Markes on April 15, 2003 at 16:44:58 PT
Poor Investigation...
"They also seized T-shirts with pictures of marijuana leaves on them and stickers saying such things "Got Weed?" and "Stoner Chicks Rock". Police also found a special mask attached to a pipe bowl designed to cover the smoker's face and head for greater access to the smoke." This is mainly a tobacco fetishist item. Any good detective would have discovered that just by a quick browse on the net..."A judge later ruled that police had not proven that the pipes were intended to be used to smoke illegal substances. The merchandise was returned to the owners, in effect setting a precedent that the items were not drug paraphernalia. " Well duh! Todays young people are not their grandfathers. They don't necessarily want to use their grandfather's pipe. There are much nicer small pipes available for that use today. I don't think anyone should smoke tobacco, but I personally know several who use these types of pipes for tobacco. Maybe if they hired a detective who paid attention in class...
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