Candidates Mostly Agree in Forum

Candidates Mostly Agree in Forum
Posted by CN Staff on October 12, 2002 at 14:17:55 PT
By J.M. Kalil, Review-Journal 
Source: Las Vegas Review-Journal 
Candidates running for the state's three most powerful law enforcement positions unanimously agreed Friday night that easing Nevada's marijuana laws is a terrible idea that would imperil the state. In a televised forum, the men vying for Clark County sheriff, Clark County district attorney and Nevada attorney general also each expressed support for the death penalty and for lowering the blood-alcohol level at which a motorist is considered impaired. 
Friday night's question-and-answer session with the six candidates saw the men echoing one another in their answers to almost every question asked of them. In fact, the phrase "I agree with my opponent" seemed to be the defining statement of the event. The lack of diversity of opinion among the six men was apparent when the candidates were asked to give their stance on Question 9, the ballot measure that would allow Nevadans to legally possess up to 3 ounces of marijuana. "I feel that it's the single biggest threat to the criminal justice system in the state," Republican attorney general candidate Brian Sandoval said. "I don't want to see Nevada become the Amsterdam of America," said his opponent, Democrat John Hunt. Non-partisan sheriff's candidates Randy Oaks and Bill Young agreed. "I just think it's the absolute worst message for young people that our state would become the state with the most liberal drug laws in the entire country," said Young, a Las Vegas deputy police chief. "I am adamantly opposed to Question 9, let there be no mistake about that," said Oaks, a police captain. Republican district attorney candidate David Roger said Question 9 represented "a breakdown in the moral fiber of our society." His Democratic opponent, Mike Davidson, summed up the six candidates' views. "It's unanimous -- it's a dumb idea," said Davidson, an assistant district attorney. All six candidates also said they favored lowering the blood-alcohol level at which a driver is considered intoxicated to 0.08 percent from its current level of 0.10 percent. Moderated by KVBC-TV, Channel 3 news anchor Nina Radetich, the forum was co-sponsored by the Review-Journal and will be replayed on KLVX-TV, Channel 10 at 1 p.m. Sunday.Note: Six say easing state's marijuana laws unwise.Source: Las Vegas Review-Journal (NV)Author: J.M. Kalil, Review-Journal Published: Saturday, October 12, 2002Copyright: 2002 Las Vegas Review-JournalContact: letters lvrj.comWebsite: Articles & Web Sites:NRLE Policy Project 9 Backers Speak Out Czar Says State Faces Liability's Drug Cartel Remark Angers Initiative Official
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Comment #11 posted by karkulus on October 13, 2002 at 00:38:36 PT
"I don't want to see Nevada become the Amsterdam 
of America," yeah,And I'm sure the people of Amsterdam don't want their city transformed into a garish,plastic,neon shit-hole like Los Vegas.p.s. go lick the mafia.
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Comment #10 posted by knox42897 on October 12, 2002 at 22:55:10 PT:
rod beasly for sheriff
Hello People,
I just wanted to say that my choice was Rod Beasly. e was running for sheriff but lost in the primaries. He supported question 9 and even sent me free get out of jail cards.
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Comment #9 posted by John Tyler on October 12, 2002 at 18:15:56 PT
Same candidates different faces
Looks like all of the candidates are just the same. None of them can "think outside the box." Heck, they don't even know they are in "the box." Time for better candidates. 
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Comment #8 posted by canaman on October 12, 2002 at 17:17:03 PT
Nothing worse than a cop lovefest
"I agree with my opponent" was the chant. "I feel that it's the single biggest threat to the criminal justice system in the state," Republican attorney general candidate Brian Sandoval said. "I agree with my opponent" the cops repeated in unison."I don't want to see Nevada become the Amsterdam of America," said Democrat John Hunt.  "I agree with my opponent" they all said a little louder. "I just think it's the absolute worst message for young people that our state would become the state with the most liberal drug laws in the entire country," said Young, a Las Vegas deputy police chief. "I agree with my opponent!" they began to yell now!"I am adamantly opposed to Question 9, let there be no mistake about that," said Oaks, a police captain. "I AGREE WITH MY OPPONENT!!!" The frenzied 6 coppers screemed out!"It's unanimous! It's a dumb idea!," said Davidson, an assistant district attorney."I agree with my opponent" the Clark County 6 mumbled, spent, lying on floor, recovering from an obvious overdose of testosterone. End the war! Give peace a chance!
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Comment #7 posted by afterburner on October 12, 2002 at 17:06:38 PT:
Hemp food - available in Grandmother's Land
I had hemp granola for breakfast yesterday, bought at the Bulk Barn in Grandmother's Land, north of the Medicine Line, delicious. Viva Canada. God bless the Queen. And congratulations to Jimmy Carter for his Nobel Peace Prize. The Toronto Star is running a story today entitled “Carter's Nobel fuels anti-war criticism” Oct. 12, 2002. 08:22 AM http://www.thestar.comPeace to all United Brothers and Sisters of America. Keep smiling.
2002 Nobel Peace Prize awarded to former U.S. President Jimmy Carter
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Comment #6 posted by JHarshaw on October 12, 2002 at 16:55:15 PT
Moral Character
 I have a question that I think I need an "anti" to answer. I've given this a lot of serious thought and I can't seem to grasp the so called moral lack in an otherwise law abiding, church going, tax paying member of society who chooses to relax with Cannabis rather than Alcohol. I am not being facetious. I really would like to know why that attitude still prevails in some places. Personally I see no character lack at all. The recent Canadian Senate report recommending Cannabis legalization has, of course, come under fire from various groups and individuals, some of whom have said that the issue needs more study. The Senate Committee took two full years and studied every aspect they could think of. This thing we will not allow you to study to death. I read one comment that the committee had disregarded the wrong evidence in making their decision. I wasn't there of course but I'm given to understand that the evidence they disregarded was only that which could not be proven. This sounds like a good idea to me.So, how does the use of a God-given herb, (Genesis, 1:29) equal immoral behavior?Peace and Pot.
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Comment #5 posted by DdC on October 12, 2002 at 16:31:23 PT
Price is a problem p4me...
Solved by legalizing. The only only only thing holding up the market is division of the ranks, perpetuating prohibition. If the truth was out, that the dangers of smoking pot are more a fabrication to keep hemp prices high and off the market in the US than a true reality. Along with medganja kept out of the Drug Store profits. And kynd replacing booze profits. And making the Prison Industry profits. Then the WoD would die. The Elkhorn Manifesto Legalizing all parts of the plant, period. Would allow Medicinal users to use. Hemp could be grown in Iowa or S.D. reducing the cost. Technology would also replace the chemically sprayed cotton fibers, trees and crude oil polyesters. People would have a safer alternative to hardrugs, booze and cages.The 12 pounds of chemical grain wouldn't be needed as it is for each pound of meat. The veggie oil fuel or hydrogen, solar or whatnot would mean no wars in the Middle East. Cannabis Hemp: The Invisible Prohibition Revealed buy hempseed and oil for hospice patients health, immune system and well being. The same reason I get them ganja. I wear hemp I buy at at maybe a tad higher price, but it gets softer after each wash and has greater tensile strength so it last longer. I'm totally spoiled after 6 years of wearing it. Let Betsy's hemp symbol ripple ore dawn's early light instead of chemical cotton jerking or Iraqi crude oil plastic Chinese sweatshop made flags that spasm spastically as the telling lies do. Yes it may be a tad more now, but $250,000,000.00 in sales last year can only help in getting the attention of entrapraunours(sp?) and those wanting to suppliment state incomes and give a crop. Solidarity! Then deal with any abuses of toking if and when they arise. But punishing Americans by prohibiting cannabis comprised of 99% hemp in the eradications, makes no sense. Except to keep the competition off the U.S. market by legislation. That = Fascism! Buy Hemp!Peace, Love and Liberty or the Greedy
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Comment #4 posted by p4me on October 12, 2002 at 15:44:14 PT
Hemp Lamp Oil
Well, I was just exploring the uses of hemp or more specifically products made of hemp that are for sale. If you do a Google search for "hemp lamp oil" it is basically a discourse of what is in the first chapter of "The Emperor Wears No Clothes." I found out that hemp nuts run $6 for 12 ounces which is about twice what cashews are at Big Lots. I never did find out where a person could by lamp oil, but there are plenty of sites with words about hemp oil being granting the brightest light and its predominance up until 1800 when whale oil took over. Hemp clothing is expensive which hurts the situation with supporting the Canadian hemp industry. Everyone talks about how it can be used for fuel, but at what cost if you could find it. The use of hemp for paper seems up and coming when the volume comes, but until then it is still relatively expensive.I just wonder if anyone in Canada drinks hemp milk like we drink soy milk here. For all its aclaims it just seems like there are no competitively priced products for hemp. This is not to deny all the wonderful things people here have said about hemp oil from Hempola on salads. But even that is about $35 a gallon isn't it. There were several articles about hemp fiber being used in cars in the UK and certainly there are sales. It just looks like it is a "Where's the beef" situation. Oh well, its the weekend and I was wondering what hemp products people are buying if any?
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Comment #3 posted by karkulus on October 12, 2002 at 15:42:55 PT
And they like BOTH kinds of music..
Country AND Western!! It's SO nice to see such diversity here in Amerikkka !!
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Comment #2 posted by JSM on October 12, 2002 at 15:36:29 PT
Moral fiber coming undone?
Let me get this straight since I am not as bright as our politicans. Legalizing marijuana represents a "moral breakdown in our society" in the words of David Rogers. HmmmmmmmmmLet me think about that one since he is saying it is acceptable to incarcerate someone for using this substance. Meaning that it is ok to destroy families, ruin the life of the individual involved, subject millions (over the last 70 years or so) to all the joys of prison life, have police kill someone every once in a while enforcing this law, trash the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, and deny those that are sick the relief that cannabis offers all in the name of morality? What is wrong with this picture? Or am I the only one who thinks that giving adults the freedom of choice and allowing them the right to live their lives free from governement interference as long as they do not infringe upon the rights of others is the real morality upon which this country was founded.  Our republican candidate sounds very much like a National Socialist party member. Once we rid ourselves of the moral plague of marijuana smokers, who will be next: Homosexuals, Jews, Blacks, Muslims, Christians belonging to the wrong church, and whatever other group that does not meet his "morality" standards? It could be a Brave New World folks, just think of the joy of living in moral purity with leaders like this. 
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Comment #1 posted by DdC on October 12, 2002 at 15:25:02 PT
That's one truth DARE classes don't teach...
Pot doesn't kill people. Drug warriors do! War on Drugs Can Claim a Deadly Victory"You probably know some goofballs in journalism, too.", Walters told reporters... Referring to a pro-marijuana television ad featuring a retired Las Vegas police officer. Bizarre czar quiz of the day: Q.--Who is the czar talking about? Answer: none other than Andy Anderson former president of Nevada Conference of Police and Sheriffs (NCOPS) Largest police org. in NevadaPot Use No Higher Among California Kids!“I treat cancer patients daily. All the medicines I use have severe side effects. Nausea and lose of appetite are constant problems. Marijuana relieves those conditions with beneficial side effects.” --Dr. Ivan J. Silverberg, M.D., OncologistKids Can Understand Pot Abuse, Medical Use Institute of Medicine (IOM) recommends that clinical trials and drug development should proceed for the medical use of marijuana because of marijuana’s already prior proven medical benefits. -Journal for the American Medical Association, 1999Anti-Pot Politics a Disservice To The Ill“I don’t believe we should be arresting people for misdemeanors” -- Nevada Highway Patrol Chief David HosmerTHE POLICE STATE COMETH by Rep.Ron Paul“If marijuana means an AIDS or cancer patient will have an appetite, then how can you deny them?” Nevada Senior Deputy Attorney General Louis LingThe Joseph McNamara Collection“Thousands of patients with cancer, AIDS, and other diseases report they have obtained striking relief from these devastating symptoms by smoking marijuana.” New England Journal of Medicine, 1997cops against the drug war“The regulation of medical practice has long been a state matter, we think it should remain so. Join us in sponsoring legislation which sole purpose is allowing states to decide to reclassify marijuana so that it may be prescribed for medical purposes.” --Rep. Barney Frank (D-MA), Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX)police chiefs question merit of drug policy Judge Protects Doctors... In 2002, Federal Judge William Alsup ordered the federal government bureaucrats not to threaten or punish doctors for recommending or discussing medical marijuana saying doctors have the right to free speech. (U.S. Appellate 9th District Court, 2002"Not One Tear Forgotten" IN NEVADAAssemblywomen Chris Giunchigliani speaks out: My Goal “is to make it simple and as cheap as possible for people who are in need of medical marijuana.” -- 2001, Las Vegas Weekly“I use marijuana to help me sleep, eat and ease the depression while living with AIDS.” -Andresa Katz, 47 Grandmother Reno, Nevada“After a long shift in the casino, standing on my feet, instead of drinking I now smoke marijuana under the advice of my doctor. I’m no longer alcohol-dependent and it helps me relax. My family really likes the changes.” --Name withheld upon request Las Vegas, 2002“Even police officers said we were wasting our time arresting people with marijuana because all the marijuana felony offenses were plead down to misdemeanors. That’s why I sponsored and the governor signed AB 453, The Marijuana Decriminalization Act. Assemblywomen Chris Giunchigliani D-Las VegasDr. Andrew Weil (Rubin & Comitas Ganja in Jamaica, 1975) 
"a-motivation [is] a cause of heavy marijuana smoking rather than the reverse" The Shafer Commission of 1970: Marijuana does not lead to physical dependency, although some evidence indicates that the heavy, long-term users may develop a psychological dependence on the drug" The LaGardia sub-committee of New York 1944: "The use of marijuana does not lead to morphine or heroin or cocaine addiction and no effort is made to create a market for these narcotics by stimulating the practice of marijuana smoking" "Marijuana: Facts for Teens." U.S. Department of Health and Human Services. Washington, D.C. 1995, p.10. "Most marijuana users do not go on to use other drugs." Crancer Study, Washington Department of Motor Vehicles 
"Simulated driving scores for subjects experiencing a normal social "high" and the same subjects under control conditions are not significantly different. However, there are significantly more errors for alcohol intoxicated than for control subjects" U.S. Department of Transportation, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (DOT HS 808 078), Final Report, November 1993: 
"THC's adverse effects on driving performance appear relatively small" Professor Olaf Drummer, a forensic scientist the Royal College of Surgeons in Melbourne in 1996 
":Compared to alcohol, which makers people take more risks on the road, marijuana made drivers slow down and drive more carefully.... Cannabis is good for driving skills, as people tend to overcompensate for a perceived impairment.": Dr. Anthony Henman: "One of the best effects Marijuana can have in any terminal illness is to produce a degree of euphoria which boosts morale in a depressing situation" The Economist March 28th 1992: "Medicines often produce side effects. Sometimes they are physically unpleasant. Cannabis too has discomforting side effects, but these are not physical they are political" Professor Lester Grinspoon, Harvard Medical School, USA: "Marijuana is one of the least toxic substances in the whole pharmacopoeia" Dr. James Malone-Lee, consultant St. Pancras Hospital, London: "I'm quite impressed by what's happened to (MS) patients who have used it". Albert Eistein: "The prestige of government has undoubtedly been lowered considerably by the prohibition law. For nothing is more destructive of respect for the government and the law of the land than passing laws which cannot be enforced. It is an open secret that the dangerous increase of crime in this country is closely connected with this." :My First Impression of the U.S.A., 1921 President Jimmy Carter: "Penalties against possession of a drug should not be more damaging to an individual than the use of the drug itself" Judge James Pickles, UK: Abraham Lincoln (December 1840): "Prohibition... goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control mans'appetite through legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not even crimes... A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our Government was founded" Volney Brown Jr., Federal Magistrate-Judge,(retired)., Los Angeles. At the DPF Conference, November 1996: "There is only one thing wrong with drug law enforcement, just one - it doesn't work. And when I tell you this I want you to believe me because I have done it" Judge James Grey, Orange County Superior Court, Santa Ana, CA, at the DPF Conference, November 1996: "If we continue as we have for the past 20 years in California, in the year 2020, everybody in the State will either be in prison or running one" Judge Pamela Alexander at the DPF Conference, November 1996: Shulgin, PhD, Chemist and author, at the DPF Conference, November 1996:"I, as a responsible adult human being, will never concede the power to anyone to regulate my choice of what I put into my body, or where I go with my mind. From the skin inwards is my jurisdiction, is it not? I choose what may or may not cross that border. Here I am the Customs Agent. I am the Coast guard. I am the sole legal and spiritual government of this territory, and only the laws I choose to enact within myself are applicable" Ann Shulgin, PhD, Therapist and Author, Lafayette, CA, at the DPF Conference, November 1996: "Several generations of high school students have grown up ignoring and disbelieving everything they've heard from government and police about drugs, including information that was factual and valid, because they discovered for themselves that most of what has been taught to them was simply not true." U.S. Representative Dan Quayle, March 1977: "Congress should definitely consider decriminalizing possession of marijuana... We should concentrate on prosecuting the rapists and burglars who are a menace to society." Sir Paul McCartney, Independent on Sunday, 28th September 1997: "I support decriminalisation. People are smoking pot anyway and to make them into criminals is wrong. It's when you're in jail you really become a criminal." Richard Branson, Independent on Sunday, 28th September 1997: "I'd like to see the government back a programme of research into the medical properties of cannabis and I do not object to its responsible use as a recreational relaxant." Detective Chief Inspector Ron Clarke, former member of Greater Manchester Police Drugs Squad: "I got tired of seeing otherwise innocent young kids from all walks of life getting criminal records for, in effect, doing nothing more than millions of other people in society were doing with alcohol" Sergeant Gordon Payne, Southampton Police "The only solution to the drugs problem is the legalisation of all drugs" Jamaican Study 1970: "This study indicates that there is little correlation between the use of ganga and crime, except insofar as the possession and cultivation of ganga technically crimes" The LaGuardia sub-committee of New York 1944: "Marijuana is not the determining factor in the commission of major crime....The publicity concerning the catastrophic effect of marijuana smoking in New York City, is unfounded" President Thomas Jefferson (1789): "I consider trial by jury as the only anchor yet imagined by man, by which government can be held to the principles of its constitution" Chief Justice John Jay USA: "The jury has the right to judge both the law as well as the fact in controversy" John Adams (Second USA President): "It is not only his Right but his duty to find the verdict according to his own best understanding, judgment and conscience, though in direct opposition to the direction of the court" Samuel Chase, US Supreme Court Chief Justice 1796: "The jury has the right to determine both the law and the facts" Chief Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes: "The Jury has the power to bring a verdict in the teeth of both law and fact" Judge Harlan F. Stone, Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, 1941-1946:"The law itself is on trial quite as much as the case which is to be decided" D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, 1972:"unreviewable and irreversible power [of the jury] to acquit in disregard of the instruction of the law given by the trial judge. The pages of history shine upon instances of the jury's exercise of its prerogative to disregard instructions of the judge" Chief Justice Harlan F. Stone: Misuse of Drugs, Office of Health Economics "It is certainly no longer true to say if it ever was, that smoking cannabis is a sign of affiliation to an "alternative" lifestyle. Clearly, in the light of its popularity and to a degree its apparent social acceptability questions are raised about the legalisation of cannabis" "I’d always done a lot of (sniffing) glue as a kid. I was very interested in glue, and then I went to lager and speed, and I drifted into heroin because as a kid growing up everybody told me, ‘don’t smoke marijuana, it will kill you’ ..." IRVINE WELSH, author of the best-selling novel about heroin addiction, "Trainspotting," recalling his own experience with drug abuse.I have always loved marijuana. It has been a source of joy and comfort to me for many years. And I still think of it as a basic staple of life, along with beer and ice and grapefruits - and millions of Americans agree with me." Hunter S. ThompsonFeminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians. ---Pat Robertson - speech at GOP Presidential Convention (1992)D.E.A.thDeceptions Qaeda!
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