cannabisnews.com: Sheriffs, Police Chiefs Oppose Marijuana Question Sheriffs, Police Chiefs Oppose Marijuana Question Posted by CN Staff on October 03, 2002 at 07:59:45 PT By Staff Report, Reno Gazette-Journal Source: Reno Gazette-Journal Sheriffs and police chiefs from across Nevada are joining forces to fight a November ballot question that would legalize up to 3 ounces of marijuana for adults.“As a leader of law enforcement, I don’t want to be responsible for the increase of criminal activity that, make no mistake about it, will follow the passing of this measure,” Sparks Police Chief John Dotson said during a Wednesday news conference. Dotson is president of the Nevada Sheriffs and Chiefs Association, which voted last week to oppose Proposition 9. Reno Police Assistant Chief Jim Weston, Washoe County Sheriff Dennis Balaam and Washoe County District Attorney Richard Gammick joined Dotson at the news conference.Law enforcement agencies throughout the state planned similar news conferences Wednesday.Dotson said 84 percent of convicted drug users referred to Washoe County drug court started with marijuana. In a survey of arrests in southern Nevada, 41 percent of those arrested for domestic violence and 31 percent of those arrested for violent crimes tested positive for marijuana.Snipped: Complete Article: http://www.rgj.com/news/stories/html/2002/10/02/25171.phpNewshawk: MicheleSource: Reno Gazette-Journal (NV)Published: October 2, 2002Copyright: 2002 Reno Gazette-Journal Website: http://www.rgj.com/Contact: rgjmail nevadanet.comRelated Articles & Web Sites:NRLEhttp://www.nrle.org/Marijuana Policy Projecthttp://www.mpp.org/Question 9 Enjoys Potpourri of Supporthttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread14311.shtmlMarijuana is Bad, Mmm'kay? Don't Smokehttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread13944.shtml Home Comment Email Register Recent Comments Help Comment #19 posted by The GCW on October 03, 2002 at 17:57:53 PT Do they count revoked parole and probation... Re-legalizing cannabis means also ending the policy of revoking parole or probation upon failing a pee pee test for THC.People being revoked parole or probation upon failing a pee pee test for THC, may not be added up when they count how many people they cage for using cannabis. [ Post Comment ] Comment #18 posted by FoM on October 03, 2002 at 17:39:34 PT Off Topic - Bring Back The Draft? Hi everyone,I was looking for news and found this article. I wasn't sure if it is a spoof or is this real. If it's real would young people be ok with it?Make Draft Not War Phil HuangOregon Daily EmeraldOctober 03, 2002 With a possible war against Iraq looming, it may not be long before the United States begins amassing thousands of troops at the Saudi border again. What a melancholy contrast then, to see so many privileged students wandering about last week, joining a riot while shouting "U-S-A!" We must instill discipline in these kids and channel their excess energy. We should reinstate the military draft. Complete Article: http://www.dailyemerald.com/vnews/display.v/ART/2002/10/03/3d9c58fecaa0f [ Post Comment ] Comment #17 posted by karkulus on October 03, 2002 at 13:32:20 PT They're not STUPID because they're COPS!!... They're COPS because they're STUPID!!..And I'm sure that the Federal "kick-back"funds are flowing like cheap casino champagne! [ Post Comment ] Comment #16 posted by firedog on October 03, 2002 at 13:20:35 PT Ever notice that... ...the people who are speaking out against Question 9 are those with the most to lose if it passes? Their jobs, careers, and mental stability are at risk.Take the case of John Walters... he's spent his life fighting against marijuana, and he has reached what is probably the height of his career. His mindset (not to mention his job) depends on his belief that marijuana is harmful and evil. If he were to stop believing this for even one second, his entire world would be shattered. It would lead to depression and possibly a mental breakdown.In order to avoid this, he must ignore or fight against anything that threatens his belief system. This includes hard scientific evidence that has grown significantly in the past ten years. This includes the exhaustive, recent studies of marijuana done by the governments of Canada and Britain. This especially includes the terminally ill people who are using medical marijuana in their last days - they put a human face on the damage his beliefs do.To some extent, this is also true for DEA agents, prosecutors, and police officers, who spend a large percentage of their time dealing with marijuana cases. Many of them could lose their jobs if Question 9 and measures like it became reality, and in the job market, how useful are their skills? What would they do? It's a down economy. [ Post Comment ] Comment #15 posted by DdC on October 03, 2002 at 12:49:16 PT Police Cheifs Oppose What They're Told To Oppose! Johnny's in the basement Mixing up the medicine I'm on the pavement Thinking about the government The man in the trench coat Badge out, laid off Says he's got a bad cough Wants to get it paid offLook out kid It's somethin' you did God knows when But you're doin' it again You better duck down the alley way Lookin' for a new friend The man in the coon-skin cap In the big pen Wants eleven dollar bills You only got ten Maggie comes fleet foot Face full of black soot Talkin' that the heat put Plants in the bed but The phone's tapped anyway Maggie says that many say They must bust in early May Orders from the D.E. A.Look out kid Don't matter what you did Walk on your tip toes Don't try "No Doz" Better stay away from those That carry around a fire hose Keep a clean nose Watch the plain clothes You don't need a weather man To know which way the wind blows Get sick, get well Hang around a ink well Ring bell, hard to tell If anything is goin' to sell Try hard, get barred Get back, write braille Get jailed, jump bail Join the army, if you failLook out kid You're gonna get hit But users, cheaters Six-time losers Hang around the theaters Girl by the whirlpool Lookin' for a new fool Don't follow leaders Watch the parkin' metersAh get born, keep warm Short pants, romance, learn to dance Get dressed, get blessed Try to be a success Please her, please him, buy gifts Don't steal, don't lift Twenty years of schoolin' And they put you on the day shiftLook out kid They keep it all hid Better jump down a manhole Light yourself a candle Don't wear sandals Try to avoid the scandals Don't wanna be a bum You better chew gum The pump don't work 'Cause the vandals took the handlesSubterranean Homesick Blues, by Bob Dylan [ Post Comment ] Comment #14 posted by canaman on October 03, 2002 at 12:08:03 PT Just for chuckles........ There's a old local joke...."Reno is so close to Hell you can see Sparks" Ha HA... Sparks the town...get it? I know it's kinda lame........I'll leave with a song.....I lit out from Reno I was trailed by twenty hounds, didn't get to sleep last night till the mornin' came around, set out runnin' but I take my time.....lalalalalalalalalalala....... [ Post Comment ] Comment #13 posted by canaman on October 03, 2002 at 11:50:27 PT Less criminals...more activity...what's up here? --“As a leader of law enforcement, I don’t want to be responsible for the increase of criminal activity that, make no mistake about it, will follow the passing of this measure,” Sparks Police Chief John Dotson said during a Wednesday news conference.--Don't you worry Chief, you won't be held responsible which ever way the criminal activity goes, up, down or sideways. But my guess is after the measure passes there will be this large group of people (responsible, honest, caring Americans) that YOU now consider criminals will no longer be! Since it will not be a criminal act to have 3 ounces what will make the criminal activity increase? In one day thousands of people that were criminals are no more! You can't scare me with your paranoid rant. Oh! Happy days are on the horizon! [ Post Comment ] Comment #12 posted by DdC on October 03, 2002 at 11:39:22 PT Right On MikeEEEEE Nothing will piss me off faster than having someone tell me they got busted for pot, but the cops were nice or the judge was lenient and could have, bla bla bla!Bushit! Was Hitler nice to the Jews he didn't gas by making them slave laborors? Was Nixon nice to leave troops under fire until 1975 when his 1968 platform was to end the war? Is the measles better than chicken pox? Hell no!Fascist are fascist, doughnut eaters or judges don't work for the communities, they work for profits! Busting the sick and dying until the people say no. Santa Cruz didn't have any help from the Sheriff collecting signatures for Prop 215 in 96 or Measure B back in 92. They propagandized against it for the so called safety of the kids. Who in their eyes were much better off in juvi hall getting raped as a deterrent!We don need no stinking badges!Captain Kangaroo http://boards.marihemp.com/boards/politics/media/40/40189.gifJC/DC http://boards.marihemp.com/boards/politics/media/40/40295.gif [ Post Comment ] Comment #11 posted by afterburner on October 03, 2002 at 11:32:37 PT: Rulers and Laws “As a leader of law enforcement, I don’t want to be responsible for the increase of criminal activity that, make no mistake about it, will follow the passing of this measure,” Sparks Police Chief John Dotson said during a Wednesday news conference. Apparently Chief Dotson does not understand the meaning of the word, legalize. Legalization will result in less crime, not more. "The more prohibitions there are, the poorer the people become." from The Book of Tao, "The Art of Government" by Laotse."Of the best rulers The people only know that they exist;The next best they love and praise;The next they fear;And the next they revile.When they do not command the people's faith,Some will lose faith in them,And then they resort to oaths!But (of the best) when their task is accomplished, their work is done, The people all remark, 'We have done it ourselves.'"from The Book of Tao, "Rulers" by Laotse. [ Post Comment ] Comment #10 posted by MikeEEEEE on October 03, 2002 at 11:15:34 PT Who will you listen to? Are you grateful to the cop that gave you the traffic ticket? You explained but the cop still gave you the ticket and your insurance rates went up. The cop says you broke the law and had to do it, that it's his job. Will you listen to the cop that will lock you up or to compassionate people? That choice will be presented to the people of Nevada. Notice how they end with the standard propaganda BS. Dotson said 84 percent of convicted drug users referred to Washoe County drug court started with marijuana. I wonder if these same people used alcohol too. [ Post Comment ] Comment #9 posted by The GCW on October 03, 2002 at 10:50:15 PT I can not blame this on the doughnut. When Man walks in a manner that obeys Our Father, as a Christian, He may have access to the Holy Spirit of Truth.When We as a society separate man from the Truth by oath, the way We do to police, by requesting they prioritize Mans laws over Gods, this is what We get. People that are unable to consistantly recognize Truth. [ Post Comment ] Comment #8 posted by FoM on October 03, 2002 at 10:46:58 PT Sure is DdC! LOL! When Ron created Cannabis News he made the doughnut the police icon! Just gotta love his sense of humor. [ Post Comment ] Comment #7 posted by eco-man on October 03, 2002 at 10:39:50 PT Europe: Peaceful and decriminalized. *Homicide, murder. Rates worldwide. CHARTS. Various causes described such as drug war, handguns, poverty, poor safety nets, poor healthcare nets, corporatist hate radio, etc.. http://www.angelfire.com/rnb/y/homicide.htm and http://corporatism.tripod.com/homicide.htm [ Post Comment ] Comment #6 posted by DdC on October 03, 2002 at 10:16:44 PT Is that a pic of a doughnut FoM? ¶8) "The end of the institution, maintenance and administration of government is to secure the existence of the body politic: to protect it, and to furnish the individuals who compose it with the power of enjoying, in safety and tranquillity, their natural rights and the blessings of life; and whenever these great objects are not ordained, the people have a right to alter the government and to take measures necessary for their safety, happiness and prosperity." -- President John AdamsCannabis Hemp: The Invisible Prohibition Revealed http://www.sumeria.net/politics/invpro.htmlThe Elkhorn Manifesto http://www.wealth4freedom.com/Elkhorn.htmlJust do Nothing Doughnut Muncher's http://www.cannabinoid.com/boards/politics/media/36/36079.gif http://pub3.ezboard.com/fendingcannabisprohibitionstuff.showMessage?topicID=117.topic [ Post Comment ] Comment #5 posted by Dan B on October 03, 2002 at 09:40:55 PT: Either the Reno Gazette Staff has poor grammar... . . . or they meant to misplace the modifier in this sentence:"He also said the measure would help the sick and dying get pot they now can obtain legally at a reasonable price."No, they can't obtain it legally at a reasonable price, dufuses. The correct wording would be as follows:He also said the measure would help the sick and dying get cannabis, which now can be obtained legally, at a reasonable price.Better yet:He also said the measure would help the sick and dying get cannabis at a reasonable price. It can now be obtained legally, provided that the recipient is willing to wade through the paperwork and wait for a response. During this wait, the patient must go to the black market where cannabis is sold at exhorbitant prices, making it both dangerous and difficult to afford.Dan B [ Post Comment ] Comment #4 posted by John Tyler on October 03, 2002 at 09:27:03 PT Changing the laws Cops also say, "If you don't like the law then change it". When people try to change the law, cops oppose that too. [ Post Comment ] Comment #3 posted by Sam Adams on October 03, 2002 at 09:04:41 PT the rest (looks like this was just a blurb) “Drugs, by definition, alter behavior and these statistics speak for themselves,” Dotson said.Meanwhile, the Washoe County Libertarian Party has endorsed Proposition 9.The ballot question, said Libertarian Brendan Trainor, sends an important message to state government and its law enforcement officers: Do not arrest or intimidate responsible adult marijuana users.Trainor is former chairman of the county party and a party candidate for Congress in District 2. He also said the measure would help the sick and dying get pot they now can obtain legally at a reasonable price. [ Post Comment ] Comment #2 posted by legalizeit on October 03, 2002 at 08:47:47 PT Dotson the Anslinger Wanna-be >Dotson said 84 percent of convicted drug users referred to Washoe County drug court started with marijuana.Why? Because the same lovely people you must go to now for MJ have all the other drugs as well. Legalizing removes the only link between pot and hard drugs. I bet close to 100% started with alcohol, but of course they will never say that.>41 percent of those arrested for domestic violence and 31 percent of those arrested for violent crimes tested positive for marijuana.Completely irrelevant, reefer madness bullcrappey!! As these phallus-noses should know, MJ tests have no relevance whatsoever to impairment at the time of the crime. Besides, even with their statistics meant anything, the majority of violent criminals did not use MJ, negating their inference that pot use = violence. Why won't they tell us how many violent criminals tested positive for alcohol?Law enforcement are hyper about this, because they will lose revenue from fines and forfeiture laws and possibly lose their jobs as well due to a greatly decreased work load. Maybe a thinning of the ranks is in order. Let's start at the top. (Cosmo Spacely: "Dotson, youuuuu're fired!!") Nevada citizens need to see through the smokescreen and say, "Enough terrorizing of peaceful pot users already!" [ Post Comment ] Comment #1 posted by WolfgangWylde on October 03, 2002 at 08:39:16 PT Since I was a wee pup... ...all I've ever heard from cops on the subject of marijuana was "We don't make the laws, we just enforce them". I guess now they'd like to make them too. [ Post Comment ] Post Comment