cannabisnews.com: What Dionne Warwick Reveals about the Drug War What Dionne Warwick Reveals about the Drug War Posted by CN Staff on August 30, 2002 at 08:56:37 PT By Sheldon Richman, Knight Ridder Tribune Source: Tallahassee Democrat The American Inquisition got another one last month. Singer Dionne Warwick, who was found with nearly a dozen marijuana cigarettes at the Miami airport recently, had her charges dropped in return for promising to undergo "drug treatment" and to make anti-drug public-service announcements.Let's not dwell on the fact that a poor kid found with a few joints in a bad neighborhood isn't offered the same deal Warwick got. The two-tier system of punishment for drug offenses is old news. Just look what happens when the child of a senator is caught with contraband. Rather, let's look at what Warwick's case says about the "war on drugs" per se, which is not a war on drugs at all, but a war on people. This modern-day Inquisition is designed to hunt down drug heretics. Ultimately, its victims are punished not just for what they do but also for what they think. And what they think are forbidden thoughts about drugs.Instead of believing, say, that a glass of wine is OK, but a joint is bad, they may think that a joint is not much different from a glass of wine. We can't have people thinking that. That's why Warwick was offered the deal. As a celebrity, she is more valuable as a convert than as a convict.That the Inquisition is aimed at thoughts can be readily seen in the terms of her deal. To avoid trial she had to promise to attend "drug treatment." What happened there? She certainly was not being treated in the sense that a physician would treat her for a stomach ulcer or high blood pressure.This "treatment" consisted of talk by her and by psychiatrists, psychologists or other mental-health personnel. What did they say? The experts probably told her lies about marijuana that are only slightly more sophisticated than those told in the government's old propaganda film "Reefer Madness." No one in the room believed them.Nationwide, the taxpayers pay hundreds of millions of dollars to finance this inflated nonsense that goes by the name "treatment." Most of the people there are trying to stay out of jail.Then there are those public-service announcements. Here is where Warwick will do public penance by recanting her heresy. She will probably tell kids not to use illegal drugs. How convincing will that be?Until recently, she apparently saw nothing wrong with using marijuana. She "got religion" just after criminal charges were filed against her and then dropped. A coincidence? If not, why should anyone believe anything she says about drugs? It is certainly more likely that she'll deliver her anti-drug message only because she could go to jail if she refuses. When someone has that strong a personal interest in making a statement that conflicts with her own previous conduct, we are entitled to skepticism, if not outright incredulity.Does the government think we are so dumb that we will take Warwick's public-service announcements seriously? Yes it does. It is striking how much of what the government does is comprehensible once you realize that it thinks most Americans are idiots.While Warwick will avoid prison in return for her re-education and public recantation, others are not so fortunate. The prison statistics are a scandal. According to the U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics, in 1999 more than half (57 percent) of federal prisoners were drug offenders. That's more than 68,000 people. In 1997, state prisons held 251,200 drug offenders, about 20 percent of state prison inmates. A disproportionate number of those prisoners are black.Americans are losing their liberty for having unapproved ideas - and acting on them peacefully - about what substances they should be free to ingest. That is unworthy of a self-described free society.Sheldon Richman is senior fellow at The Future of Freedom Foundation - http://www.fff.org - a libertarian organization in Fairfax, Va., and editor of Ideas on Liberty magazine. Contact him at: The Future of Freedom Foundation, 11350 Random Hills Road, Suite 800, Fairfax, Va. 22030. Source: Tallahassee Democrat (FL)Author: Sheldon Richman, Knight Ridder TribunePublished: Friday, August 30, 2002Copyright: 2002 Tallahassee DemocratContact: tdedit taldem.comWebsite: http://www.tdo.com/Related Articles & Web Site:Bureau of Justice Statisticshttp://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/ Report: Millions Behind Bars in U.S. http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread13878.shtmlDionne Warwick's Charges Dropped in Plea Bargain http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread13055.shtmlGrammy Winner Arrested for Pot Possession http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread12827.shtml Home Comment Email Register Recent Comments Help Comment #39 posted by pppp on September 02, 2002 at 03:41:42 PT ...boballen13... ..Welcome!......It's good to hear you speaking out.............Dont Stop! ....We all know that almost all Canadians are terrorists.......if we look at the Greek-Latin translation of "al-quaeda',, we see that it translates as "awl-Qanadians",or "all-Canadian",,hence we know that the Canadian people are just pretending to be nice! ......homeland security reports that Bin laden is living with some farmers just outside of Regina,Saskatchewan.....yellow alerts have been issued...so we all need to do our part,and report any suspicious activities by suspected Canadians! [ Post Comment ] Comment #37 posted by boballen13 on September 02, 2002 at 02:41:55 PT: SCENARIO: US AIDS CANADA IN TERRORIST PLOT! Unfortunately the "terrorists" are canadian citizens, acting as canadians in a state divorce of american interests. Probably the judge who had the courage to give Steve Kubby compassion...when did love, compassion and liberty fall from favour? Why should such a judgement seem beyond the ordinary? Please! Canada! Hold your ground! The heartless spirit in america is going to be shredded. Let your flag stand for something! We whored ourselves to the oil industry, our sin is to believe these vile creatures. Our greater sin is to give our children over to them! [ Post Comment ] Comment #36 posted by qqqq on August 31, 2002 at 21:22:53 PT ...Right on DanB... ..sorry if I sounded sorta snottyesque in my poll ramble..... " I can understand the responses from the uneducated, who also made up a large part of the first amendment naysayers, but the Republicans and evangelicals who are educated (the few, the proud) have no excuse." ...it's rather shocking,,but I think that most "Americans",dont have a clue as to what the fuck is really happening with the empire!...I have several friends who would call themselves "conservatives"...I have expressed my concerns about what is going on with the usa/patriot/ashcroft regime...Most people dont even know what the usa/patriot act is!...even amongst alot of the right wingish"educated",there seems to be this absurd blind faith in the appointed pResidunt,and his administration of ex-CEO criminals,,corporate embezzeling thugs,,and appointed henchmen!......... ...If someone wants to call themselves an "American",,,then they should at least be aware of what is going on with the state of their democracy!...I've talked to alot of idiots,who support the current appointed administration,,but they dont have any idea of even the basic facts!.. an American who doesnt know who Ashcroft or Rumsfield is, or who has not questioned what,or who "al-quaeda" is,,,is kindof a shitty,(or brainwashed),American!, ..Just think about the what has happened !!....yes,,Clinton was bad and devoius in his own way,,,and his administration went way out of bounds in many ways,,,but the current administration makes Clinton look harmless!....blow-jobs,,cigars,,pizzas,,Whitewater,,etc..and who knows what else the Clinton club got away with...At least Clinton had the brains to pull it off in a discreet and friendly manner....Not so with the the current pResidunce blatant illiterate arrogance! ..I guess it comes down to the question;,,"are Americans just spoiled,and stupidly disinterested,,or are they brainwashed and manipulated to the extent where they cant be blamed for their ignorance???.. or,,am I just rambling off a bunch of raw and un-proofread confused akward crap from Outer Space,,that has nebulous relevance and obscure,or non-exsistant conclusions???? ,,,, [ Post Comment ] Comment #35 posted by Dan B on August 31, 2002 at 12:21:00 PT Of Course, dddd I understand about polls and all, but the fact that they got at least 490 of the 1000 people they surveyed to agree with restricting the first amendment does say that at least 490 people need to be considered as candidates for treason charges. I did read more in-depth about this "study" where the main point of contention is the part about freedom of religion, not freedom of speech (so much for the right of evangelicals, one of the groups most in favor of curtailing first amendment freedoms) to scream "we have a right to place a nativity in front of the federal building because our forefathers fought . . . blah, blah, blah." Strange that these people think the curtailment should only apply to religions that are not their own (e.g., Islam). I can understand the responses from the uneducated, who also made up a large part of the first amendment naysayers, but the Republicans and evangelicals who are educated (the few, the proud) have no excuse.Anyway, I believe that you are correct if your assertion is that most Americans don't agree that the first amendment needs to be curtailed, but it still amazes me just how many they got to agree with that sentiment. Certainly some Americans believe that way, and that, to me, is frightening enough.As for those who rigged this poll to give the "desired" results, may they be flayed with knives and roasted on a spit. (I'm speaking figuratively, of course).Dan B [ Post Comment ] Comment #34 posted by dddd on August 30, 2002 at 23:37:54 PT .......DanB...... ...I read the same "poll" story.,,(I think it was on usnewswire[?]).......yup.... http://www.usnewswire.com/topnews/prime/0829-126.html ...It's a propaganda CLASSIC Dr Dan!......Any "poll",,is only as believable,as the people who take it....when people see "polls",they automaticly sortof assume that the results are somehow relevant,and reputable....BUT.. in reality,, most polls have no references for the reader to verify the results,,.... ....think about polls.......first off,,,if you are taking a poll,,it makes a big difference on WHO you poll!..Ideally,, a pollster would used an absolute random selection of the populace......and then,,,..it makes a huge difference on how the polls questions are worded,and/or presented...............As far as I know,,there are no "laws",that apply to the integrity of "polls".........I took a poll last month,and asked if people thought 4b was actually the same person as 4q 50% of those polled said 4b was not 4q,,and 50% said that 4b is 4q..(as you know,,4d has nothing to do with these other four letter imposters/copycats.)... ....anyway.....polls are very devious,because they appear to be legitimate reflections of popular opinions,,,but they are actually no better that heresay!...it's easy to make a poll reflect anything the pollster desires..No one bothers to check on the veracity of a poll,,,but when someone reads a news release about a "poll",,and its results,,people tend to believe it,even though it could be complete bull. ....I do not think this poll reflects the views of Americans!.........dddd [ Post Comment ] Comment #33 posted by canaman on August 30, 2002 at 23:19:53 PT I've got a question .... Looking at Ohio's law's, Possession of paraphernalia is punishable by up to 30 days in jail and $750.00 fine. California used to consider pipes and even rolling papers paraphernalia years back, they dropped the paraphernalia laws when they "decriminalized". In Nevada you can get 6 months and $1000.00 fine for paraphernalia. Do people get incarcerated for these "crimes"? [ Post Comment ] Comment #32 posted by FoM on August 30, 2002 at 22:40:08 PT CorvallisEric Thank You. I was trying to figure it out but hadn't gotten it done. The laws in Ohio aren't perfect but I've looked at other states on NORML's link and most states have much tougher penalties. At the minimum, and for the time being, I wish all states had laws close to Ohios. Maybe there are better state laws but I don't know about them. [ Post Comment ] Comment #31 posted by CorvallisEric on August 30, 2002 at 22:25:41 PT Quick answers First degree is worse than third degree (just from reading it, but I don't know otherwise, I'm not a lawyer). 5000 grams = 5 kilos = about 11 pounds [ Post Comment ] Comment #30 posted by CorvallisEric on August 30, 2002 at 22:18:31 PT Having gotten way off track like everyone else ... ... I've gotta say that this article is one of the all-time gems. Even better to see it in the major paper of Florida's capital. [ Post Comment ] Comment #29 posted by FoM on August 30, 2002 at 22:14:40 PT Question Which is worse a first degree or third degree felony? [ Post Comment ] Comment #28 posted by FoM on August 30, 2002 at 22:12:34 PT Thanks CorvallisEric I copied this out of the second link you posted and I don't even know off the top of my head how much 5,000 grams is? That's a lot! I'll do a little math or let someone tell us. (3) If the drug involved in the violation is marihuana or a compound, mixture, preparation, or substance containing marihuana other than hashish, whoever violates division (A) of this section is guilty of possession of marihuana. The penalty for the offense shall be determined as follows: (a) Except as otherwise provided in division (C)(3)(b), (c), (d), (e), or (f) of this section, possession of marihuana is a minor misdemeanor. (b) If the amount of the drug involved equals or exceeds one hundred grams but is less than two hundred grams, possession of marihuana is a misdemeanor of the fourth degree. (c) If the amount of the drug involved equals or exceeds two hundred grams but is less than one thousand grams, possession of marihuana is a felony of the fifth degree, and division (B) of section 2929.13 of the Revised Code applies in determining whether to impose a prison term on the offender. (d) If the amount of the drug involved equals or exceeds one thousand grams but is less than five thousand grams, possession of marihuana is a felony of the third degree, and division (C) of section 2929.13 of the Revised Code applies in determining whether to impose a prison term on the offender. [ Post Comment ] Comment #27 posted by CorvallisEric on August 30, 2002 at 21:57:34 PT Wrong link in comment 26 Try this: http://onlinedocs.andersonpublishing.com/revisedcode/jumptext.cfm?jumppage=2925.11 [ Post Comment ] Comment #26 posted by CorvallisEric on August 30, 2002 at 21:54:51 PT Ohio Whether or not Ohio is a "decrim" state may depend more on interpretation than precise wording in the law. Here's a link for the whole drug possession section 2925.11 http://onlinedocs.andersonpublishing.com/revisedcode/jumptext.cfm?jumppage=2929.13 According to the part quoted in comment 22: 2925.11(C)(3)(a) Except as otherwise provided in division (C)(3)(b), (c), (d), (e), or (f) of this section, possession of marihuana is a minor misdemeanor. [otherwise = 100 grams or more] The key point of contention is: 2925.11(D) Arrest or conviction for a minor misdemeanor violation of this section does not constitute a criminal record and need not be reported by the person so arrested or convicted in response to any inquiries about the person's criminal record, including any inquiries contained in any application for employment, license, or other right or privilege, or made in connection with the person's appearance as a witness. On the other hand, consider the following, which makes Ohio's relative leniency questionable: 2925.11(E) In addition to any prison term authorized or required by division (C) of this section and sections 2929.13 and 2929.14 of the Revised Code and in addition to any other sanction that is imposed for the offense under this section or sections 2929.11 to 2929.18 of the Revised Code, the court that sentences an offender who is convicted of or pleads guilty to a violation of division (A) of this section shall do all of the following that are applicable regarding the offender: (2) The court shall suspend for not less than six months or more than five years the driver's or commercial driver's license or permit of any person who is convicted of or has pleaded guilty to a violation of this section. [omitted parts don't seem relevant] All the above and more is on the NORML page on Ohio, except that they call it a "civil citation" and the law book calls it a "minor misdemeanor." Incidently, the limit for hashish is 5 grams and hash oil is 1 gram. [ Post Comment ] Comment #25 posted by aocp on August 30, 2002 at 21:39:00 PT john tyler High level people are corrupted somehow and sent to re-education camps...As they said in the Time Machine, those that fight back are the first to be taken. Granted, we're not talking about morlocks here, but still, the theory holds... [ Post Comment ] Comment #24 posted by FoM on August 30, 2002 at 19:04:56 PT Here's NORML's page on Ohio Less than 100 g is a civil citation with a $100 fine. I'm not sure how the chief of police missed this. I believe NORML is current on the laws but I can't be sure.http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?wtm_view=&Group_ID=4557 [ Post Comment ] Comment #23 posted by VitaminT on August 30, 2002 at 18:54:30 PT Looks like PIG hySLOP doesn't even know the law he's been beating peaceful people over the head with since 1965. Does that surprise anyone? [ Post Comment ] Comment #22 posted by aol bites on August 30, 2002 at 18:40:49 PT caught a lie URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v02/n1611/a01.html POT DECRIMINALIZATION CLAIM IS FALSE Regarding David Tiebel's Aug. 27 article about Prop. 203, and Samuel Vagenas' quote that Ohio has decriminalized minor possession of marijuana: That statement could not be more false. I have been a police officer in Ohio since 1965. My officers routinely arrest or cite individuals they discover possessing any amount of marijuana, including residue found in the pipe bowls of those found carrying it. The offense is classified as a criminal offense. Very small amounts are minor misdemeanors. There is a maximum fine in these cases of $100. I have never heard of a civil offense in this instance in the state of Ohio. I support my fellow law enforcement professionals in the state of Arizona. Don't buy the lie. - - DAVID J. HYSLOP Chief of Police Chardon, Ohio ---------------------------------------------------- ohio code: http://onlinedocs.andersonpublishing.com/revisedcode/home.cfm3) If the drug involved in the violation is marihuana or a compound, mixture, preparation, or substance containing marihuana other than hashish, whoever violates division (A) of this section is guilty of possession of marihuana. The penalty for the offense shall be determined as follows:(a) Except as otherwise provided in division (C)(3)(b), (c), (d), (e), or (f) of this section, possession of marihuana is a minor misdemeanor. (b) If the amount of the drug involved equals or exceeds one hundred grams but is less than two hundred grams, possession of marihuana is a misdemeanor of the fourth degree.(c) If the amount of the drug involved equals or exceeds two hundred grams but is less than one thousand grams, possession of marihuana is a felony of the fifth degree, and division (B) of section 2929.13 of the Revised Code applies in determining whether to impose a prison term on the offender.(d) If the amount of the drug involved equals or exceeds one thousand grams but is less than five thousand grams, possession of marihuana is a felony of the third degree, and division (C) of section 2929.13 of the Revised Code applies in determining whether to impose a prison term on the offender.(e) If the amount of the drug involved equals or exceeds five thousand grams but is less than twenty thousand grams, possession of marihuana is a felony of the third degree, and there is a presumption that a prison term shall be imposed for the offense.(f) If the amount of the drug involved equals or exceeds twenty thousand grams, possession of marihuana is a felony of the second degree, and the court shall impose as a mandatory prison term the maximum prison term prescribed for a felony of the second degree. 2925.11 Possession of drugs. [ Post Comment ] Comment #21 posted by mayan on August 30, 2002 at 16:17:08 PT Unknown Pleasures... Here's what you are looking for.Canada, U.S. near troop deal: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/front/RTGAM/20020828/wxfrontpage/Front/homeBN/breakingnews?It's all relative -WAG THE WTC I: http://www.public-action.com/911/psyopnews/DOCS/plot_within_a_plot_part1.htmlWAG THE WTC II: http://www.public-action.com/911/psyopnews/September 11 - US Government accused: http://the-news.net/cgi-bin/story.pl?title=September%2011%20-%20US%20Government%20accused&edition=663Hijack 'suspects' alive and well: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/1559151.stmEIGHT of the alleged September 11th Hijackers are Alive: http://www.worldmessenger.20m.com/alive.htmlAn exchange of letters on government suppression of evidence in 9/11 lawsuits: http://wsws.org/articles/2002/aug2002/exch-a30.shtml [ Post Comment ] Comment #20 posted by canaman on August 30, 2002 at 14:21:51 PT Dionne, can you sing "Do you know the way to San Jose" for Mein Fueror and the Czar? Don't forget "Work will set you free!" [ Post Comment ] Comment #19 posted by VitaminT on August 30, 2002 at 13:43:20 PT Yeah Sadam's planning to bombard the US and Isreal with salvos of starving babies [ Post Comment ] Comment #18 posted by John Tyler on August 30, 2002 at 13:37:27 PT Similarities Sound like the stuff they do in communist countries. High level people are corrupted somehow and sent to re-education camps (treatment center), then have to publicly denounce themselves (make public service statements). No one will be fooled. Everyone will know she had to do this or go to jail. [ Post Comment ] Comment #17 posted by st1r_dude on August 30, 2002 at 13:25:22 PT this is what it's going to take when the general population see this for what it really is, then change will accelerate...can't believe the naacp has sat back and watched this happen."Until recently, she apparently saw nothing wrong with using marijuana. She "got religion" just after criminal charges were filed against her and then dropped. A coincidence? If not, why should anyone believe anything she says about drugs? It is certainly more likely that she'll deliver her anti-drug message only because she could go to jail if she refuses. When someone has that strong a personal interest in making a statement that conflicts with her own previous conduct, we are entitled to skepticism, if not outright incredulity."happily st1d [ Post Comment ] Comment #16 posted by Dan B on August 30, 2002 at 13:14:45 PT: Disturbing Poll--Off the Cannabis Topic I read an article today about a poll that says 49% of Americans "think the First Amendment goes too far." These people want to curb first amendment rights because they think it gives too much leeway to "terrorists."In the spirit of the First Amendment, I have this to say to those 49%: If you don't want a country that guarnatees freedom of religion, freedom from religion, freedom to assemble, and freedom of speech--get the fuck out! Move to one of the countries in the Middle East where there are no guarantees of freedom. Because by remaining here and arguing against the freedoms our forefathers fought to obtain and retain for the past 226 years, you are committing treason. You make the people who flew jets into the World Trade Center look like great and brilliant humanitarians.Dan B Support for First Amendment Slipping [ Post Comment ] Comment #15 posted by The GCW on August 30, 2002 at 12:46:31 PT End educating blacks altogether cage them all, and We will be simply jumping ahead of time...Is that the goal, is it still racist, like when cannabis became prohibited fro its racist needs...Bigots made cannabis illegal, and bigots still are alive and well. There is a movement, when blacks are in prison more than college, and the movement is still moving in that scary direction!Does Warwick, thus help this evil prey upon Blacks?Expose that, and perhaps Warwick will sell less records, and be reminded of the fact that Blacks from college buy records, blacks from prison, don't. [ Post Comment ] Comment #14 posted by The GCW on August 30, 2002 at 12:37:54 PT Is Warwick partly responsible??? for racism to continue? Doesn't Warwick have a responsability to help stop racism?Is the war a racist scam? US: More Black Men In Prison Than College, Study Says URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v02/n1600/a03.htmlNewshawk: Jane Marcus Pubdate: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 Source: San Jose Mercury News (CA) Contact: letters sjmercury.com Author: Fox Butterfield, New York TimesMORE BLACK MEN IN PRISON THAN COLLEGE, STUDY SAYS Some Cite Prison-Building Boom Since '80 [ Post Comment ] Comment #13 posted by Mike on August 30, 2002 at 12:28:45 PT "treatment" "re-education" [ Post Comment ] Comment #12 posted by The GCW on August 30, 2002 at 12:24:30 PT state counting problems??? US OH: Invalid Signatures Outnumber Valid OnesURL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v02/n1606/a08.html Pubdate: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 Source: Blade, The (Toledo, OH) Contact: letters theblade.com Author: Frank Wenzel, Political Writer Bookmark: http://www.mapinc.org/find?206 (Ohio Campaign for New Drug Policies)INVALID SIGNATURES OUTNUMBER VALID ONES Nearly two out of every three of the 60,801 signatures gathered in Lucas County by a group working to make Ohio's drug laws more lenient were determined by the county board of elections to be invalid, elections Director Joe Kidd said yesterday. ...Another 16,381 signatures were questionable and so were not counted, he said. http://www.mapinc.org/ccnews/v02/n1606/a08.html [ Post Comment ] Comment #11 posted by BGreen on August 30, 2002 at 12:19:11 PT We've got nuclear weapons and a crazy person in charge who calls them "nuculor" weapons. We're even a greater threat to the world than Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, et al.. [ Post Comment ] Comment #10 posted by druid on August 30, 2002 at 12:11:04 PT: BGreen Hahahahaha I like that. A preemtive strike against the US. I don't know wtf the difference except the US is a bigger threat to the sovereignty of any Nation than Iraq is to anyone. [ Post Comment ] Comment #9 posted by BGreen on August 30, 2002 at 11:55:25 PT Preemptive strike Maybe Canada ought to make a preemptive strike against the US just like we're planning on doing to Iraq. Iraq is threatening the US and it's allies, and the US is threatening Canada and it's allies, so WTF is the difference? [ Post Comment ] Comment #8 posted by druid on August 30, 2002 at 11:50:57 PT: Bravo! Nice Article. I really enjoyed reading it and it makes so much sense. As far as the US military going into canada, the door swings both ways. The provision also allows for Canadian troops to enter the US. I believe this is similar to what is happening to certain counties where I live in that they have made agreements that police from one county can enter another county and vice versa in the name of a drug bust or when tracking drug traffickers. It a multi-county drug task force. They are all working together to suppress our rights. I would be scared too if I was Canadian. I mean I can't get too worked up thinking about Canadian troops entering the US but US troops entering Canada is a big thing. I still can't get over the fact that the DEAth has offices outside of the US. When will the US opppression of the world in the name of Democracy end?Welcome Canada as the 51st state ... :( [ Post Comment ] Comment #7 posted by jvthc on August 30, 2002 at 11:40:07 PT: And vica versa To the "Scared Canadian" - Unknown Pleasures.Very interesting point in a question, "Under what circumstances could sending in American Soldiers into my country be justified?"A thought to return the fright to Americans: Under what circumstances would America justify receiving soldiers from a foriegn nation into our country, armed and prepared for action? [ Post Comment ] Comment #6 posted by FoM on August 30, 2002 at 11:26:15 PT BGreen Sometimes I feel like I'm walking through a haze. A haze not from drugs but a haze because of all the odd things that are happening in our country. The news is slow because of the holiday weekend so I have more time to think. I watch the vice president speaking a little and he looks like he is so full of hate it is troubling to me. They want war and I don't know why? We have gone above defending ourselves because of 9-11 but why should we risk young mens lives to go to Iraq? [ Post Comment ] Comment #5 posted by BGreen on August 30, 2002 at 11:15:10 PT Life and DEAth in Ashcrofts' home town Springfield tapped as part of drug programSpringfield has been chosen as one of five cities in the nation to host an Integrated Drug Enforcement Assistance effort, U.S. Rep. Roy Blunt said today.“Springfield was chosen because we have a great number of community leaders and organizations who want to work to sharply curb the drug problem and demonstrate its true impact on the community,” Blunt said in a written statement.In accordance with the program, the federal Drug Enforcement Administration will assign an on-site coordinator to work with city officials, law-enforcement agencies, churches, schools and businesses to cut the demand for illegal drugs.The DEA will work with the state and local agencies to increase drug enforcement. The on-site coordinator will also marshal community groups and their resources to identify local drug-abuse problems, barriers that deter dealing with the problems and treatment solutions, according to the release.“Taking down the drug dealers may temporarily curb the drug problem,” said DEA Director Asa Hutchinson. “IDEA looks beyond that to create a sharper focus on reducing the demand for illegal drugs with wducation and precention.”Other cities hosting the effort include: Prichard, Ala.; Allentown, Pa.; North Charleston, S.C.; and Portsmouth, Va. (Eric Eckert/News-Leader) Springfield tapped as part of drug program [ Post Comment ] Comment #4 posted by FoM on August 30, 2002 at 10:57:48 PT Unknown Pleasures I will keep my eyes open but the article on the diamonds in Canada lead me to believe we will put forces in your country. It's just a matter of the proper timing so no one seemingly gets upset. Our country seems to feel it owns the whole world. [ Post Comment ] Comment #3 posted by Unknown Pleasures on August 30, 2002 at 10:48:35 PT A Scared Canadian 'It is striking how much of what the government does is comprehensible once you realize that it thinks most Americans are idiots.'-Way to go 'for the throat' with that comment. Good Article.Now for something unrelated(?) but very relevant:A few days ago I was watching CBC news and caught the end of a story that was a 'tad' disturbing. Apparently Canadian and American military officials have met to discuss sending American troops to Canada in case of a 'major terrorist incident or threat'. The CBC reporter asked a Canadian military analyst under what circumstances would American soldiers be (asked?) to enter Canadian soil, and the analyst could not name one scenario.Like any nation, we Canadians have our OWN (albeit small) military force, and I was unaware that the terrorist threat was so great in this country that a foreign military intervention was being considered. Under what circumstances could sending in American Soldiers into my country be justified??? In the 250 year history of Canada we have had only one terrorist incident: in the 60's or 70's, a tiny, short lived Quebec separtist group assasinated one politician. That's it! Our own military handled the situation just fine. I was unaware that we are a prime target to be overrun by AK-47 wielding maniacs in black masks at any time. Thank God we have the noble Reich down south just waiting to 'help us out'! I feel soooo much safer. If anyone has links to the article or report, it would be greatly appreciated. (I think Mayan mentioned this)-thanx [ Post Comment ] Comment #2 posted by FoM on August 30, 2002 at 10:40:45 PT Thanks The GCW Here is the audio link!http://cbc.ca/commentary/media/20020827Jim.ram [ Post Comment ] Comment #1 posted by The GCW on August 30, 2002 at 10:30:19 PT Scum Canada: Web: Column: US Deliberately Promoting Drugs In URL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v02/n1607/a01.html Newshawk: Join CMAP (http://www.mapinc.org/cmap/lists.htm) Webpage: http://cbc.ca/insite/COMMENTARY/2002/8/28.html Pubdate: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 Source: Canadian Broadcasting Corporation (Canada Web) Copyright: 2002 CBC Contact: cbcinput toronto.cbc.ca Website: http://www.cbc.ca/ Details: http://www.mapinc.org/media/1412 Author: Jim Trautman Note: Headline by newshawk, Transcripted CBC Radio CommentaryUS DELIBERATELY PROMOTING DRUGS IN AFGHANISTAN http://cbc.ca/insite/COMMENTARY/2002/8/28.html & http://www.mapinc.org/ccnews/v02/n1607/a01.html [ Post Comment ] Post Comment