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Clinton Backs Broader Role in Colombia
Posted by CN Staff on June 29, 2002 at 21:43:20 PT
By The Associated Press
Source: Associated Press
Former President Clinton said Saturday that he backs broadening military aid from Washington to battle insurgents in Colombia. At a conference on how the private sector can help resolve the nation's 38-year conflict, Clinton described Colombia as a crucial ``battleground in humanity's war against terror.''He made the comments in this steamy Caribbean coastal city of Cartagena as Congress considers lifting restrictions on U.S. counterdrug money to fight insurgent groups in Colombia.
Clinton pushed through $1.7 billion in drug-fighting aid during his presidency.The conflict sets two main rebel groups against a right-wing paramilitary army and the government. The U.S. State Department has placed all three illegal groups on its list of terrorist organizations.Clinton said Colombia's government should be allowed to use U.S. aid ``not only against drug trafficking, but in a direct confrontation against those terrorist groups.''After the conference, President Andres Pastrana accompanied Clinton on a walk through the walled colonial city that the former president visited once before in 2000. Enthusiastic crowds shook Clinton's hand and posed with him for pictures.Rep. William Delahunt, D-Mass., who also attended, called on Colombians to show they're willing to make sacrifices to end the war.``I believe Congress will be reluctant to increase our share of the assistance until it is demonstrated that the private sector is willing to bear much of the sacrifice for this very tragic conflict,'' Delahunt said.Addressing the conference earlier Saturday, President-elect Alvaro Uribe -- who begins his term Aug. 7 -- urged private security firms to help the government monitor insurgents and said he would propose a war tax on private businesses.Thousands of trained police and military personnel swarmed over Cartagena during Clinton's visit. Authorities sent helicopter gunships, airplanes and boats to patrol the air and waters around the walled city.Clinton also criticized rebel threats to kidnap or kill more than 100 mayors and hundreds of other government employees if they don't resign.The threats this month have paralyzed municipal governments. Pastrana has responded by offering the threatened city officials protection through a program funded by the United States as part of the aid package that Clinton pushed through. Source: Associated PressPublished: June 29, 2002Copyright: 2002 Associated Press Related Articles & Web Site:Colombia Drug War Newshttp://freedomtoexhale.com/colombia.htm Colombia's Next Leader Seeks Drug-War Aid http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread13178.shtmlA ‘Little Vietnam’? http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread13150.shtmlU.S. Prods Uribe on Drug Warhttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread13019.shtml
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Comment #62 posted by rHyLeE420 on July 03, 2002 at 21:08:03 PT
bob marley, a great guy
i watched behind the music: bob marley today and i too agree that he was an extrodinary man with great talent and i listen to him everyday....my dad is a big fan, he was at a concert where they recorded "babylon by bus" i recommend this album to anyone who is a bob fan.....its great......
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Comment #61 posted by ekim on June 30, 2002 at 17:31:06 PT
part 2
>Edward Hammond, a scientist with the Sunshine Project, a US-based
>non-governmental organization (NGO) opposed to biological warfare,
>maintains: "There is no consensus [among UN member states] on the
>UNDCP's mandate to go on with forced eradication with aerial fumigation
>and biological agents."
>
>Forced eradication and aerial spraying of chemical herbicides have
>provoked angry protests from farmers in several Latin American
>countries, often accompanied by brutal military suppression, especially
>in Colombia. Farmers' organizations have accused the UNDCP in the
>Colombian courts of human-rights violations, and recently one judge
>ordered the suspension of chemical fumigation.
>
> On the consumption side, there is a clear tendency - at least in most
>European Union countries and others such as Australia, New Zealand,
>Canada and Brazil - toward more lenient, rational and pragmatic drug
>policies; on the production side, to the contrary, there is an
>escalation of repressive approaches strongly favored by Washington's
>all-out-war-on-drugs lobby.
>
>The appointment of Pino Arlacchi as the UN drug czar in 1997
>strengthened US influence over the UNDCP. Arlacchi would never have been
>assigned to the post, according to his colleagues in Vienna, without
>Washington's blessings. However, a UN internal investigation that
>confirmed reports of mismanagement, a series of aborted programs and
>corruption in the Vienna-based UN drug agency forced Arlacchi to resign
>last December.
>
>Countries that question the wisdom of the current global drug strategy,
>known as the "reassess" and liberal-minded states, tend to adopt a low
>profile. Washington, the leader of the "reaffirm" school, continues to
>hold sway in determining UNDCP policy directions and operations in the
>developing world.
>
>According to the Amsterdam-based Transnational Institute (TNI), "The
>UNDCP these past years has suffocated attempts to open up the debate,
>censored critical remarks in its own publications, trumpeted doubtful
>success stories, and punished dissenting views among its staff."
>
>Mycotoxins: Bio-control, or biological warfare?
>
>The UNDCP and Washington soon ran into opposition from environmentalists
>and politicians in Bolivia, Ecuador and Peru alarmed at the prospect of
>potentially dangerous mycotoxins being unleashed on the rich
>biodiversity of the Andean region. Eventually the key target country,
>Colombia, also refused UNDCP proposals to conduct field-testing of
>Fusarium during the course of the year 2000.
>
>However, the UNDCP, under the direction of Pino Arlacchi, brushed aside
>all criticisms. His spokesman, Sandro Tucchi, responded to critics by
>saying that, "We wish to strongly emphasize that UNDCP is not developing
>and testing 'biological weapons', or engaging in 'biological warfare',
>for use against illicit narcotic crops."
>
>According to the UNDCP regional chief in Bangkok, Dr Sandro Calvani,
>"Bio-control is not new. Protecting crops from pests is long-established
>practice, and the fungus is a selective agent that will only attack the
>opium poppy without harming other crops."
>
>Susana Pimiento, a founding member of the Sunshine Project, an
>international NGO of scientists committed to averting the dangers of new
>weapons stemming from advances in biotechnology, argues that the
>language of "bio-control" is misleading. Pimiento states that "to expose
>a crop to a lethal dose and deliberately provoking a massive epidemic in
>farmers' fields is fundamentally different from protecting a crop from
>disease".
>
>After an outbreak of a Fusarium epidemic in a coca-growing area in Peru
>in the late 1980s, thousands of families could not grow food. A proposal
>to deploy the same Fusarium-EN4 fungus against marijuana plantations in
>the US state of Florida was strongly opposed by Dr David Struhs, head of
>the state's Department of Environmental Protection. In April 1999, he
>wrote: "It is difficult if not impossible to control the spread of the
>Fusarium species as a herbicide. The mutated fungi can cause disease in
>a large number of crops, including tomatoes, peppers, flowers, corn and
>vines."
>
>Other critics warn that the fungus will kill food crops, destroy the
>environment and endanger human life. They say it will have little impact
>on the global drug trade, which will simply move production elsewhere.
>However, UNDCP regional chief Calvani denied in an interview with this
>reporter all knowledge of these negative scientific findings.
>
>The same dangers apply to the Pleospora deployed as "biological control"
>agent. UNDCP officials have claimed that they will not engage in fungus
>mutations. Yet the man the UNDCP has funded, Professor Abdukarimov
>Abdusatter, director of the Institute of Genetics in Tashkent, candidly
>admitted in an interview last year that he intended to engage in genetic
>modification in order to intensify the potency of P papaveracea.
>
>British plant pathologist Professor Paul Rodgers has warned that genetic
>modifications increase the risk of fungus mutation and the probability
>of danger to other plants, animals and humans.
>
>In press releases and other statements to the media, Arlacchi indicated
>that the UNDCP was working together with the UN's Environment Program
>(UNEP) to ensure that the use of biological agents is properly monitored
>and controlled. But UNEP officials have denied any knowledge of UNDCP's
>claims to have involved them in environmental monitoring. During the
>three years since the UNDCP became closely involved in promoting
>field-testing of the Fusarium fungus to stop the cocaine trade in
>Colombia, and pinned the same hopes on developing the Pleopsora fungus
>as a panacea to annihilate the opium poppy, there has been no credible
>record of consultation with any UNEP or another other UN agency.
>
>The resurgence of opium-growing in many parts of Afghanistan since the
>fall of the Taliban regime opens up the prospect that if poor farmers
>refuse to accept the new government's attempt to enforce strict
>narcotics suppression, a compliant and US-dependent regime in Kabul
>could well authorize the spraying of mycotoxins to attack the poppy
>harvest.
>
>The Sunshine Project's Pimiento has called for independent monitoring of
>UNDCP's biological research. "We are confident that a full and
>transparent review will conclude that this bio-weapons project should be
>stopped. It should have been dropped years ago."
>
>Meanwhile, many observers are wondering whatever happened to the
>long-awaited evaluation of the UNDCP's "Made-in-Tashkent silver bullet"
>that should have been completed by the end of 2001. The opium farmers of
>Asia have a right to know whether the UNDCP's scientists have secretly
>approved the principle of unleashing of the anti-poppy fungus as the
>latest weapon in the hardliners' war on drugs.
>
>(Note: The new UNDCP acting chief is Antonio Costa, who has tried to
>restore donor confidence in the UN program. It is not yet know whether
>he will pursue the mycotoxin research and hardline policy of his
>discredited predecessor Arlacchi.)
>
> (©2002 Asia Times Online Co, Ltd. All rights reserved. Please contact
> ads atimes.com for information on our sales and syndication policies.)
>--
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Comment #60 posted by ekim on June 30, 2002 at 17:29:47 PT
Bio-weapons in the war on drugs
>Date: Sat, 29 Jun 2002 01:07:45 -0500
>From: Ben Masel
>
>
>Newshawk: Ben Masel
>Pubdate: June 25, 2002
>Source: Asia Times
>Author: Tom Fawthrop
>Copyricht: 2002 Asia Times
>Contact: letters atimes.com
>Address: Building B - 5th Floor, 102/1 Phra Arthit Road, Chanasangkhram,
>Bangkok 10200, Thailand
>Website: http://www.atimes.com
>
>Kill or cure: Bio-weapons in the war on drugs
>By Tom Fawthrop
>
>The war on drugs is taking a dangerous new turn, as drug-enforcement
>agencies desperate for results look increasingly to biological weapons
>as their silver bullet.
>
>The failure of international drug-enforcement agencies to curb the
>global narcoticstrade has prompted many critics and governments to
>question the US policy of an all-out "war on drugs". The United Nations
>Drug Control Program (UNDCP), rocked by a mismanagement scandal and
>several program fiascoes last year, has also come under attack for its
>controversial involvement in biological-warfare research driven by
>Washington's anti-narcotics agenda.
>
>The budgets for Western governments fighting the global narcotics trade
>have ballooned over the years, but heroin, cocaine, and amphetamines
>continue to flood the lucrative markets of the United States, Europe and
>Australia.
>
>The world of drug-enforcement agencies, global drug strategy and the
>UNDCP have all failed to stem the tide. In spite of massive aerial
>spraying of chemical herbicides on the coca-cultivated lands of Bolivia
>and Colombia, for instance, everything indicates that the repressive
>strategy of forced eradication has succeeded only in inflicting misery
>and hardship on poor farmers.
>
>The opium and heroin trade in Asia still thrives in spite of glowing
>reports coming from the UNDCP and the ruling generals in Myanmar that
>claim massive reduction of opium cultivation during the past five years,
>and repeated declarations from Yangon that their ethnic-Wa allies are
>phasing themselves out of the drug trade.
>
>The growing realization that enforcement agencies are losing the war
>against drugs has fueled an increasingly desperate effort to mobilize
>science in the search for a final solution. Biological research has been
>harnessed to develop toxic fungi that would attack the narcotic plants
>and prevent regrowth.
>
>According to the plan, mass aerial spraying would unleash the toxic
>fungi over areas of coca or opium, provoking outbreaks of mycotoxin
>disease that would spread over vast swaths of jungle.
>
>US biological research identified the fungus Fusarium oxysporum as a new
>weapon in the drug war that could be used in aerial spraying to attack
>the coca plant. Pleospora papaveracea, a fungus identified in Central
>Asia, attacks the opium poppy in a similar fashion.
>
>According to Washington's global drug strategy, in 1998 two countries
>were viewed as the prime targets of fungal crop warfare: Colombia, the
>biggest exporter of cocaine, and Afghanistan, which at that time grew 75
>percent of the world's opium. Thanks to the Taliban's crackdown on
>opium, Myanmar regained the top spot as the world's No 1 source of opium
>and its derivative, heroin.
>
>One British scientist, Michael Greaves, claims that fungi are selective
>killers, and do not harm other crops. The US State Department's
>narcotics department liked his credentials and influenced the UNDCP to
>hire him as its top consultant to the UN program's three-year research
>project carried out in Tashkent, Uzbekistan, which included several
>field tests.
>
>Greaves was also hired recently by the State Department to assist it on
>Plan Colombia, a US$1 billion combined economic and military aid package
>that has been offered to the Colombian government in exchange for an
>agreement to accept field-testing of Fusarium as a prelude to mass
>aerial spraying.
>
>The research and development of another biological weapon, Pleospora,
>designed to wipe out opium in Asia, was located in the laboratories of
>the Institute of Genetics in Tashkent. Ironically, these are the same
>labs once used in the former Soviet Union's chemical and biological
>warfare program. By 1998 former Soviet scientists had been recruited by
>the UNDCP to develop the toxic Pleospora papaveracea fungus under a
>three-year, $200,000 program funded mostly by the US government.
>
>The UNDCP project, called "research and development of an
>environmentally safe and reliable biological control agent for the opium
>poppy", was not popular with other governments. In spite of intense
>lobbying by Madeleine Albright, the US secretary of state at the time,
>other major UNDCP donors - except for ever-compliant ally the UK -
>significantly declined to contribute.
>
> UNDCP driven by a US agenda?
>
>The driving force behind the UNDCP's gung-ho pursuit of total crop
>eradication by the 2008, and especially the search for a biological
>solution, has been Washington's global war on narcotics.
>
>A leaked memo from the State Department in 1998 leaves little doubt
>about the extent to which the UN drug agency has been viewed as an
>essential international cover for what in reality are US anti-narcotic
>policies. The memo urged the UNDCP to "solicit funds from other
>governments, in order to avoid a perception that this is solely a [US
>government] initiative".
>
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Comment #59 posted by FoM on June 30, 2002 at 16:24:01 PT
Amanda
I'll take the extra post out then but the special tells how he hit a soccer ball with his foot and really hurt his toe. Even later on when he knew his toe should be removed he wouldn't do it. It is a beautiful tribute to a man that lived, accomplished and died young. I hope you get to see it. It made me cry. The spiritual nature of Bob Marley and his Cannabis use is talked about with respect.
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Comment #56 posted by Hope on June 30, 2002 at 16:00:55 PT
Thanks again, FoM.
It's no secret. I just mentioned it to you because you know me and I wanted you to know Hope was me, for sure. I'm pretty sure that anyone that knows me from DrugSense or MAP knows that I am Hope. I love Bob Marley. I get the creeps when I think about that gift of boots he was supposedly given at a show, that had a sharp metal object in them that punctured his toe when he happily tried them on back stage a few months before the cancer started in his toe. I read that on a Rastafarian site somewhere. The writer claimed to have witnessed that. I wouldn't be in the least surprised if it were true. Several years ago I read, in a doctor's office, about this weird cancer that they had discovered, and the Russian scientists knew of it too, and they shared information about it, that was, indeed capable of jumping from one thing to the next and therefore transmittable, if not exactly contagious.
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Comment #55 posted by FoM on June 30, 2002 at 15:21:47 PT
Amanda
Heck I didn't know if you wanted anyone to know you are Amanda. That's funny about Christ left the chat. I hope to get to the chat more often but by night I'm busy or too tired to type and want to watch tv until when the news picks up later in the night. If you get VH1 you should check out the special on Bob Marley at 9 pm ET tonight. We watched it this morning and will tape it tonight to keep. He was quite a person with a vision that was remarkable to say the least.BOB MARLEY: BEHIND THE MUSIC.VH-1's acclaimed music documentary series takes a look at Bob Marley in a special 90 minute episode. Premiering Sun., June 30, visit VH1.com for show times and video clip outtakes. http://www.vh1.com/shows/series/behind_the_music/bob_marley.jhtmlhttp://www.cannabisnews.com/news/thread13256.shtml#6
Bob Marley
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Comment #54 posted by Hope on June 30, 2002 at 15:07:44 PT
Thanks, FoM.
I'm usually here, reading the articles and enjoying the comments...I just don't always like to comment because all too often...my comments seem to kill the conservation. Thankfully, that doesn't happen in person. Some one mentioned once, that "Hope" was a nice handle. I thought so, too. My Grandmother, an Aunt and two cousins are named Hope. (More Hopes in our family than Georges in the Forman family.) Some of you may know me as "Amanda", a Newshawk, from over at the Media Awareness Project. I missed out on the Hope name in real time so I thought it would be good here. Besides...it's sort of inspiring. One time over at the DrugSense chat, Peter Christ (his real name)joined us. It was sort of disheartening when we got the message, "Christ has left the chat". So, names can be effective...and I really like Hope. Hope, even when she doesn't comment, is usually here. :-)
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Comment #53 posted by Hope on June 30, 2002 at 14:13:25 PT
And that concludes our Sunday School lesson
for today. Thank you for your attention.
:-)
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Comment #52 posted by Hope on June 30, 2002 at 14:11:42 PT
That would be John 14....
if you want to check out. (about the "no one...except through me" business.
John 14
(greater excerpt)
5Thomas said to him, "Lord, we don't know where you are going, so how can we know the way?"
6Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. NO ONE COMES TO THE FATHER EXCEPT THROUGH ME. (My emphasis)7If you really knew me, you would know[2] my Father as well. From now on, you do know him and have seen him."
8Philip said, "Lord, show us the Father and that will be enough for us."
9Jesus answered: "Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'? 10Don't you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you are not just my own. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing his work. 11Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the miracles themselves.
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Comment #51 posted by FoM on June 30, 2002 at 13:16:05 PT
Hope
I checked out verse 10 in different translations and it makes sense to me. Good to see you!http://www.ccel.org/wwsb/1Timothy/4.html
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Comment #50 posted by Hope on June 30, 2002 at 13:05:48 PT
I'm of the notion we are all on board.
I Timothy 4:9 This is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance 10 (and for this we labor and strive), that we have put our hope in the living God, who is the Savior of all men, and especially of those who believe. (Note: this saying "deserves full acceptance" and "Savior of ALL men, and ESPECIALLY of those who believe"....the word is "ESPECIALLY" not "exclusively"! Whoopee!! It's so damned simple some folks just won't believe it!)Whoopee!!! All aboard!!!(Whoopee = JOY= Hallelujah!!!)(I just LOVE this bit of scripture. You wouldn't be surprised how many "Christians", sadly, won't, or can't, see what it says.)("No man comes to the Father, except by me." was Jesus's explanation that if you know God the Father...you already know him (Jesus) whether you know it or not. Duh! Read the whole chapter!)
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Comment #49 posted by Toad on June 30, 2002 at 11:10:02 PT
McCaffrey's Horny Stooge
I still can't get over Clinton apointing a General to oversee our nation's drug policy, "Kill all the stoners and let God sort 'em out".
Or that Rolling Stone interview where Clinton said that Marijuana was decriminalized in most of the U.S, so much for the 700 thousand or so arrests every year.
Not since Jimmy Carter has any rational drug policy thought come from a U.S. President, and sadly I don't see any on the horizon. Our only hope is if Britian or Canada legalize and U.S grass roots supports continues to rise.
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Comment #48 posted by goneposthole on June 30, 2002 at 05:20:02 PT
You wanna know what?
Bill Clinton doesn't know if he's afoot or horseback.He's a crazed individual, a bonafide nut case. One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest and he's the one.
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Comment #47 posted by Zero_G on June 30, 2002 at 04:44:26 PT
just got home and read this....
It's 4:24 am as I start to post, and I had a God Lickin' night alright.An extract of pz# *&^
as per Jonathon Ott.
'nuff said.Hope there's room for me aboard, or ya might find me floating alongside...Have You Seen The Stars Tonight?
Would you like to go up on a Deck and look at them with me?
Have You Seen The Stars Tonight?
Would you like to go up for a stroll and keep me company?Do you know
We could go?
We are free
Anyplace you can think of
We could beHave you seen the stars tonight?
Have you looked at all the family of stars?
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Comment #46 posted by dddd on June 30, 2002 at 03:13:12 PT
....SWAMPIE...
...you got the wrong Dana....it has been about 10 years since I owned a bong...I think that I got rid of my last one,, when bong water spilled all over the new couch,and the white carpet.....besides,,I like reefers....I dont even think bongs had been invented when I started smoking weed.....I am cautiosly proud to say that I no longer smoke cigarettes,,and I smoke very little Marijuana..(a quarter oz. lasts me a month!).. anyway,, you're right,,,,my old ass is gonna stay here on EARTH,,and that's fine with me,,because I like the guitars that I have here on earth.. I am doing fine now.........I believed in God before I almost died,,,,but,,if you talk to anyone who has almost died,,they will probably tell you things about God that they learned when they were nearing death!.......... .
. Things are quite different when you are almost dead!...All your priorities become instantly rearranged!..you start thinking about who's gonna be rummaging through the piles of stuff,,leftovers from your brief walk across the planet.....
..When a person is nearing death,,then all of a sudden,,the thing about 'God',becomes more real than ever before.. I think I'm more glad to be alive now,than I was before I almost died.....May JAH shine on you SWAMPIE......dddd
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Comment #45 posted by Industrial Strength on June 30, 2002 at 02:50:59 PT
I was...
just being irreverent. "dont take anything I say too seriously"... There was just something odd about your phony (?) tirade...maybe it's just my present state of mind.
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Comment #44 posted by dddd on June 30, 2002 at 02:44:46 PT
...Indy?...
...first of all,,,dont take me too seriously,,,...I'm not sure I know how to interpret;"God will smite you anyway if I'm on the ship."...?
...are you insinuating that your presence on my fairy tale spaceship,,would somehow cause a severe extraterrestrial traumatic event?...".God will smite you anyway if I'm on the ship.".....I meant nothing that specific,,and besides,,,,the "ship",that we are on,,(you are in seat 2A,,and I am in seat 2B)...we were already dead before we got on board,,so I dont think either of us should have to worry about being 'smitten'.....ya know?....how could anything hurt us if we are dead?..... I hate to be so seriously confusing,,, but I assure you,that my intentions are good,, and if the ship goes down because you are on board as my guest,,then so be it!....May JAH Shine on You.....dddd
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Comment #43 posted by SWAMPIE on June 30, 2002 at 02:38:26 PT
....dddd....
Well,I just talked to HIM,and he said that we are all needed here on EARTH to take care of "things"for HIM that HE physically can't do right now bacause HE is busy with some other "projects"in the rest of the universe.HE gave you a second chance once he realized that it was a girl named Dana Elizabeth Monkeybutt who OD'D on crack that he really wanted.He also told me to tell you not to hit that 4-foot bong so hard anymore.Cut it down to 2-ft.Gotta save those lungs for the Hippie Retirement Farm when FoM gets it ready.LOL! How are you now? Swampie
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Comment #42 posted by Industrial Strength on June 30, 2002 at 02:30:17 PT
and...
I hope you were joking about all that...I assume you were, but you never know...
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Comment #41 posted by Industrial Strength on June 30, 2002 at 02:25:40 PT
haha
God will smite you anyway if I'm on the ship
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Comment #40 posted by dddd on June 30, 2002 at 02:22:34 PT
...SWAMPIE....
...not to worry,,,,I already got it all worked out,,,,you and all your gear,,friends,,and family,are already flying first class with me,and Toker00,on the new LearJet 747 SkyBus space shuttle...only problem,,the ticket is one way....If you want round trip,,you're gonna have to talk to God.......I'm pretty sure you got his number,,,if not,,,I know GCW has it....dddd
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Comment #39 posted by SWAMPIE on June 30, 2002 at 02:11:57 PT
dddd...qqqq.............
If you get me a seat,I'll need room for my guitar and a dufflebag of killer green bud!Who cares about clothes!!
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Comment #38 posted by dddd on June 30, 2002 at 02:03:29 PT
....BGreen....
...good question...........Why do you ask?....is the **** thing becoming too weird?....If nothing else ,,at least the **** thing is obviously from a common source,,but now that Indy blew the lid off my bbbb plan,,,I may be forced to re-surface as Elliot Fleener.....My main problem,,is that I have a hard time getting out of this ,,,....nagging .....,,,,,,.,.,.,...punctuational...........,;,,,,,,,,;;;;,,;;,,;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; habit...........................................................................it's a dddddddead giveaway
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Comment #37 posted by BGreen on June 30, 2002 at 01:53:24 PT
Is bbbb your last psycho-alter ego's .....
name or the sound you're going to make?
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Comment #36 posted by dddd on June 30, 2002 at 01:47:41 PT
...DAMN YOU INDY!..
...looks like the bbbb thing is ruined now!!!.....thanks alot....you asshole!....I used to think you were nice,,,but now I'm not so sure!...I think me and BGreen might give your seat on the God express to Lehder,or SWAMPIE,,,if they even need it!.....I was saving bbbb for my last psycho-alter ego,,and now you've ruined the whole thing!!!!!!!
.......................fuck!..........shit!.........................................dddd
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Comment #35 posted by Industrial Strength on June 30, 2002 at 01:36:11 PT
dddd
will bbbb be rearing his head any time soon? Did I ruin the surprise? :P
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Comment #34 posted by Industrial Strength on June 30, 2002 at 01:32:32 PT
well, thanks
I'll need all the support I can get!
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Comment #33 posted by pppp on June 30, 2002 at 01:31:30 PT
...All Aboard!...
....It turns out that dddd,and BGreen,have joined together with with DocZombie, ,DanB, ,p4me,,goneposthole, ,legalizit,,el toonces,,idbsne1,,GCW,,and MDG,,,,(I think),,and we are trying to charter the space shuttle,, for a mission to go find God........I'm hoping military officer guy,and Kaptinemo will be able to figure out how to drive the shuttle,,,and FoM,,and her husband,,and dogs,will also be on board.,,,in fact,,,everyone is invited,,,free of charge,,,but we're hoping to keep the whole mission a secret from CongressmanSuet,and qqqq!..God might not like having them snooping about outer space,,trying to hunt him down ,,,as if God was some kinda Bugs Bunny,,being chased by some weird Elmer Fudd from hell!.........enuff said.....perhaps too much?
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Comment #32 posted by dddd on June 30, 2002 at 01:09:38 PT
...Indy...
..If it turns out me and BGreen were right about all this religion stuff,,,,we will definitly save you a seat!...dddd
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Comment #31 posted by Industrial Strength on June 30, 2002 at 01:06:24 PT
wait for me!!
I don't really have much to say on the matter. It seems anyone can shape religion to fit their own little mold.
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Comment #30 posted by dddd on June 30, 2002 at 01:04:38 PT
....Hey Man!....knock it off qqqq!...
...that last qqqq comment was too strange....it laid out a weird mind trip towards Indy,,,and it made it seem like BGreen was actually right on,,,....which even though BGreen actually is right on,,,does not give qqqq the right to play cheap mind games with Indy!.....I will personally make sure that qqqq does not go out of bounds from this point forth.....and,,I will apologize on 4Qs behalf for any offense that was actual,or assumed ,by any of the injured parties........dx4
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Comment #29 posted by qqqq on June 30, 2002 at 00:54:38 PT
I'm with you BGreen.....but....
..I'll feel kinda fucked if we leave Indy behind..(?)....[?]....[?}....??
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Comment #28 posted by BGreen on June 30, 2002 at 00:34:42 PT
They THINK they're getting away with it
The Bible says God despises lies and liars, will not be mocked, and will ultimately judge and execute vengeance upon those who have perpetrated evil.Christ, in His short stay on earth, demonstrated the love and compassion that defines "Christianity." I don't give a flying flip-flop what people have done while professing to be a Christian, because I follow the Christ of the Bible, and He's a really cool dude to hang with.
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Comment #27 posted by dddd on June 30, 2002 at 00:25:14 PT
...look here....I like Mr Crimmins!
http://www.barrycrimmins.com/quips.html#6-29-02
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Comment #26 posted by Robbie on June 30, 2002 at 00:19:34 PT
BGreen: oh, I would agree
except that they all claim some form of divine link, and beat it over our heads.If Christ were alive today, he'd be crying.
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Comment #25 posted by BGreen on June 30, 2002 at 00:16:42 PT
Cannabis and
cannabis users.Starting off great, aren't I?
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Comment #24 posted by BGreen on June 30, 2002 at 00:14:54 PT
Sorry, Robbie
Christ exemplifies Truth. Neither party can claim that. I don't care what they call themselves, the perpetrators of this violence against cannabis aren't Christians, anymore than they're elephants or donkeys.
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Comment #23 posted by Robbie on June 30, 2002 at 00:14:15 PT
LOL dddd!
`Return to sender'!great line
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Comment #22 posted by dddd on June 30, 2002 at 00:12:16 PT
...oh.....
...as I'm sure you are aware.....some,,or most of the fuckedest things in history have been done in the "name of god".....but most should have been returned to sender,,,,address unknown....dddd
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Comment #21 posted by Robbie on June 30, 2002 at 00:11:50 PT
Indy: not to me
`god-licking' is when you do your level best to claim an all-powerful god, and even the god of Christianity, yet bear absolutely no resemblance to a god-fearing,religious person. I bet half of the people in our national government would gladly hold a bible in their right hand while they proclaim their platitudes, without giving a scheisse about what it actually says.
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Comment #20 posted by Industrial Strength on June 30, 2002 at 00:03:15 PT
killing in the name of...
Doing things in the name of God.
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Comment #19 posted by dddd on June 29, 2002 at 23:58:57 PT
...What?...Indy??
..."killing in the name of"..??????????????????????...what doo ya meen?
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Comment #18 posted by dddd on June 29, 2002 at 23:56:30 PT
..Wow....Saturday Nite!....
..you're rite again Robbie....time to fire up a robust reefer....dddd
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Comment #17 posted by Industrial Strength on June 29, 2002 at 23:53:16 PT
is it...
"killing in the name of", sorta?
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Comment #16 posted by dddd on June 29, 2002 at 23:50:37 PT
on second thought
..I'm quite sure I know what was meant by "god licking".....Robbie dont talk no shit,,,as least not that I've seen...I would be glad to explain the concept to you Indy....dddd
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Comment #15 posted by Robbie on June 29, 2002 at 23:50:18 PT
dddd.d...dd...d..dddd....d.d..d..d
I think Democrats have a complex. It's called the "They won't vote for me because I'm a liberal, so I'll move to the right!"-complex.Come, we smoke a jernt and forget about all the bullpoopy for awhile.
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Comment #14 posted by Robbie on June 29, 2002 at 23:47:32 PT
Indy
"god-licking" is alcohol induced...so I'm not quite sure :-) Still, the Repubs have been the party of Christ for many years. I wish they'd leave him out of it. I bet he would too.
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Comment #13 posted by Industrial Strength on June 29, 2002 at 23:44:49 PT
I dont know but...
anything that consenually goes on between man and god in the privacy of man's own home is none of my business.
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Comment #12 posted by dddd on June 29, 2002 at 23:39:34 PT
..Indy;...I....myself
..wonder what "god licking " is
....EJ....Stay there,,,pretend you are still part of the party!....It's really easy to infiltrate the gop,,,but a true and effective democrat party insider turncoat,is not as easy...,might come in handy ....do like I try to do;;;pretend you're normal....
....LoL...................d....d...d..d
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Comment #11 posted by Industrial Strength on June 29, 2002 at 23:28:03 PT
robbie
What does "god licking" mean?
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Comment #10 posted by E_Johnson on June 29, 2002 at 23:09:44 PT
I'm still in the party
mainly so I can write them nasty letters at this point.
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Comment #9 posted by pppp on June 29, 2002 at 22:58:20 PT
...yes ROBBIE....
...in my opinion,,you are right;..it is "that bad"!...It does not just "look that way"....
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Comment #8 posted by dddd on June 29, 2002 at 22:55:28 PT
...EJ....I can tell....
..It's rather obvious that you are a frustrated,,pissed off,,former Democrat.(?)....Am I wrong?....dddd
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Comment #7 posted by Robbie on June 29, 2002 at 22:52:25 PT
I resemble that remark
I still think Repukes are all god-licking fascisti, but the Democraps aren't faring that much better.Am I so far away from mainstream values that the mainstream I see looks like a one-way river into oblivion? Is it that bad? Or does it just look that way?
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Comment #6 posted by E_Johnson on June 29, 2002 at 22:44:20 PT
Bill just loves his private sector
He says we can come over and touch it any time.
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Comment #5 posted by E_Johnson on June 29, 2002 at 22:43:07 PT
The end of the Democratic Party
What the Democrats don't realize is that they will never beat the Republicans at being tough on drugs. The only thing the Democrats accomplish by trying to sound tough on drugs is to make people want to vote for Republicans who sound even tougher on drugs.And they drive the liberals from their own party, who feel forced to vote for Nader out of an angry defense of truth and dignity, not because they want to vote for Nader.
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Comment #4 posted by dddd on June 29, 2002 at 22:40:46 PT
....GREAT CEASARS GHOST!!!...
..Ol' Billy Klinton sez......"......``battleground in humanity's war against terror.''
....Good Grief!!!...Now it's "humanity",who is waging this war!.....How long until "humanity",buys themselves some state of the art helicopter gunships,,and starts firing on the perceived enemies of "humanity"????...
.....Think about it: Humanity is now at war against terror!...
....so....in other words,,,,the nebulous group known as "humanity",,,is now officially at war against those darn people who we have labeled "terrorists"..........well....I guess if we are gonna have to use these blanket coverage nebulous terms,,,,all I can say,,,is.."down with all the empire government assholes!"...I got a feeling that alot of those "humanity" people,,are also "assholes"..(?)....dddd
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Comment #3 posted by Robbie on June 29, 2002 at 22:32:20 PT
#!#*!&, Bill Clinton!
I try to be a Democrat, but they're all so *& !#*^$*&$ conservative. To hell with 'em.GO GREEN!
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Comment #2 posted by Industrial Strength on June 29, 2002 at 22:19:40 PT
never, never mind
never mind they're slangin' bricks, never mind they're (gasp!) Marxist's, these cat's be attacking that oil pipeline. Woe is them.
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Comment #1 posted by Lehder on June 29, 2002 at 22:06:42 PT
War Inc.
Reminds me of Murder Inc. At a
conference on how the private sector can help resolve the nation's
38-year conflict, Clinton described Colombia as a crucial ``battleground
in humanity's war against terror.''...``I believe Congress will be reluctant to increase our share of the assistance until it is
demonstrated that the private sector is willing to bear much of the sacrifice for this very
tragic conflict,'' Delahunt said.Well, there's not a company in the country that's interested in "sacrifices," but there are plenty of profits in war for company bosses and stock operators who might even throw a little Clinton's way. The new policy of perpetual war on a global scale will bring an era of creativity and excitement not enjoyed since the invention of the computer. We'll be the envy of the world.
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