Prosecutor Says Authorities Acted Properly 

Prosecutor Says Authorities Acted Properly 
Posted by FoM on January 08, 2002 at 06:57:35 PT
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Source: Associated Press
The FBI and Michigan State Police were justified when they shot and killed two men at a campground known for its advocacy of marijuana use, a prosecutor said in a report released Monday. The standoff at Rainbow Farm began Aug. 31 when Tom Crosslin, 46, skipped a court date relating to drug and weapons charges and allegedly set fire to buildings on his farm, which High Times magazine once rated one of the nation's premier marijuana-smoking spots. 
Cass County Sheriff's deputies arrived and surrounded the farm, and were joined later by the FBI and Michigan State Police. Three days after the standoff began and negotiations had failed, Crosslin left the farm's main house, armed with a rifle, to get food and supplies from a neighbor's farm. On his way back to his house, he spotted an agent in the woods and raised his rifle, Cass County Prosecutor Scott Teter said. Two agents fired at Crosslin, killing him. Rolland Rohm, 28, who was Crosslin's business partner, remained in the main house. The next morning, after Rohm had agreed to surrender, the main house began burning, Teter said. Thirty minutes later, Rohm ran out of the house carrying a rifle and wearing black face paint. Teter said Rohm spotted a Michigan National Guard light armored vehicle and pointed his rifle at two guardsmen. Two Michigan State Police snipers nearby in the woods fired at Rohm and killed him. In both cases, Teter said, the shooters were protecting themselves or others. The Rohm and Crosslin families said through a spokesman Monday that they rejected the findings. "We think that Teter is playing fast and loose with the truth," spokesman Bill McMaster said. "There are two unexplained homicides caused by 120 police with snipers, tanks and helicopters." Complete Title: Prosecutor Says Authorities Acted Properly in Fatal Standoff at Michigan Campground Source: Associated Press Published: Monday, January 7, 2002 Copyright: 2002 Associated Press Related Articles & Web Site:Tom Crosslin & Rollie Rohm Memorial Rainbow of Support's Passions Led To Downfall CannabisNews Articles - Rainbow Farm
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Comment #16 posted by Lehder on January 10, 2002 at 11:10:07 PT
The FBI can now search your home or business without a warrant and jail you if you tell anyone they did it and Ashcroft have enacted laws like those we see exercised in movies about primitive and barely civilized societies from hundreds or thousands of years ago. It's hard to believe that such injustices are accepted today.
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Comment #15 posted by Sandino on January 09, 2002 at 14:11:08 PT:
Nuevo Mexican
Hello Nuevo Mexican, Just wanted to say thanks to for posting: "The Time Is Now-A Hopie Elder Speaks." that was a most wonderful story. Oraibi, Arizona is located about 80 miles North-West from where I live. I am going to check that place out early next month. Take Care and Thanks Again. S.A. HomesP.S. The last person that I would believe or talk to is a "Jack-Boot-Thug."
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Comment #14 posted by dddd on January 08, 2002 at 22:56:29 PT
We Agree
....SansSuperegos comments are really good....qqqq,7777 and myself ,are of the opinion that somehow,,alternate nom de plumes,(pen names),or egos,can be quite benificial for making it easier to speak ones mind.
.....SansSuperego brings up the alarming fact,,that in todays new world of terrorpigs,,all one needs to do,is make the wrong comment to recive the "terrorist" label...Once the terrorist label has been bestowed upon a person by an anti-terror authority,(we dont know who it is that decides if someone is a "terrorist", apparently,anyone could report someone as a "terrorist",and that would allow law enforcement to ignore most any Constitutional rights a person thought they had)......They huge gray area in defining what a terrorist is,and who it is that decides if a person is a terrorist,or is involved with "terror related activities",is the most disturbing aspect of the whole thing....The nebulous language contained in the PATRIOT act could allow this to be called a terrorist website.
....The shrub regime is indeed the most terrifying thing that has ever happenned to the USA,,far more terrifying than 9/11.......I salute SansSuperego for tellin' it like it is........sincerely....dddd 
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Comment #13 posted by CongressmanSuet on January 08, 2002 at 22:11:34 PT
 Dan, I mean Sans...
 That made my night, thanks.
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Comment #12 posted by FoM on January 08, 2002 at 21:55:11 PT
Hi Patrick,I am sick about what happened to Tom and Rollie. I am sad for what happened to NYC. I'm sad for the starving displaced people in Afghanistan. We need to be strong and keep going and hope that life will get better. I don't know if it will but it could. I'm very concerned with Bush and his people. Bush is scary. He's a little man, not really skilled at much and people like that can be very dangerous when given too much power and being President is way too much power.
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Comment #11 posted by FoM on January 08, 2002 at 21:48:24 PT
Very nice comment. I have a lousy cold and am just catching up on reading and wanted to say I understand how you feel.
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Comment #10 posted by Nuevo Mexican on January 08, 2002 at 21:28:14 PT
Thanks SansSuperEgo!!!!!!
Hit the nail on the head! Here a Hopi Elder speaking about the moment we are in: Posted on Indymedia.orghopi messasge (english) 
by traditional hopi elders 1:25pm Sun Dec 30 '01 (Modified on 10:09pm Sun Dec 30 '01) 
 the time is now! A HOPI ELDER SPEAKS "You have been telling the people that this is the Eleventh Hour, now you must go back and tell the people that this is the Hour. And there are things to be considered ... Where are you living? What are you doing? What are your relationships? Are you in right relation? Where is your water? Know your garden. It is time to speak your Truth. Create your community. Be good to each other. And do not look outside yourself for the leader." Then he clasped his hands together, smiled, and said, "This could be a good time! There is a river flowing now very fast. It is so great and swift that there are those who will be afraid. They will try to hold on to the shore. They will feel they are being torn apart and will suffer greatly. Know the river has its destination. The elders say we must let go of the shore, push off into the middle of the river, keep our eyes open, and our heads above water. And I say, see who is in there with you and celebrate. At this time in history, we are to take nothing personally. Least of all, ourselves. For the moment that we do, our spiritual growth and journey comes to a halt. The time of the lone wolf is over. Gather yourselves! Banish the word struggle from your attitude and your vocabulary. All that we do now must be done in a sacred manner and in celebration. We are the ones we've been waiting for." Oraibi, Arizona Hopi Nation- October 2001 
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Comment #9 posted by E_Johnson on January 08, 2002 at 10:03:44 PT
Quoting Jeff Spicoli
JEFF SPICOLI: So what Jefferson was saying was, "Hey, you know, we left this England place because it was bogus, so if we don't get ourselves some cool rules, pronto, then we'll just be bogus too. Get it?"
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Comment #8 posted by SansSuperego on January 08, 2002 at 09:24:21 PT:
Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myselfWalt Whitman, "Song of Myself"
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Comment #7 posted by SansSuperego on January 08, 2002 at 09:19:27 PT:
Those who don't believe in God, please forgive my wording in the last comment. Substitute "love" for "God" if you must--it's all the same to me.Dan B
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Comment #6 posted by SansSuperego on January 08, 2002 at 09:17:04 PT:
SansSuperego: Dan B Preachin'
In the tradition of dddd, qqqq, 7777, Dan B has developed an alterego who speaks from the id with no regard to his conscience: SansSuperego! Unfortunately, he will have to temper his comments in order to preserve his own life. That's right: while police can waltz into any home they like and murder with impunity, if Dan B even suggests returning fire he will be labeled a terrorist and hunted like an animal. Reality is that cops are called pigs for a reason. They truly are animals. All of them.Why do I say that all cops are animals? Because even if they aren't directly involved with murdering innocent people, they support and profit from a system that does. Police are trained not to be public servants, but to be public menaces wholly unaccountable to the public, to in fact kill civilians without provocation if that's what it takes to illegally seize private property. It's simply a small-scale version of what has happened (and continues) in Afghanistan: wholesale murder for the purpose of taking over other people's possessions and dictating to them what they can and cannot do with their own land.George W. Bush is a Nazi, as is John Ashcroft and Asa Hutchinson. The Office of Homeland Security may as well be called the Gestapo, and the CIA, FBI, DEA and ATF may as well be called the SS. The American people are, for the most part, either absolute ignoramuses or rabid Nazis themselves.The sad thing is that we can't blame all of our misery and frustration on God. The hell we have here on Earth is solely created by human beings. I believe in God, but religion truly is the opiate of the masses, and it is to blame for almost all suffering on Earth. Politics is a religion practiced by those who worship power; its cousin is business, practiced by those who worship money. If there is a devil, it lives in the human mind, thinks only of itself, and calls itself "religion."But, as I said, I do believe in God, which is why I can't ever truly be sans-superego. I believe in God because I have to in order to maintain any sense of hope. Because I know that human beings are not to be trusted, that human beings are lazy and inherently selfish, and that we can never win if we put our trust in people to do what only God can do. If the war on drugs and the war on terrorism and all of the stupid wars fought across the globe are to be ended, they will not end by human effort. Such an occurrence will require a miracle. Dammit, I really wanted to write about an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. I really wanted to say that cops deserve to get back what they dish out, and that's the end of it. Instead, I end up announcing my belief in God and my assertion that there is no hope without belief in God--in some higher power. Which drives me back to my deepest held conviction: God is love, so love is the only thing that can destroy evil. If humans want peace, we must start by loving one another. If we want to end hatred, we must love. There is no alternative. Deep down, you know this to be true. SansSuperego (a misnomer is there ever was one) a.k.a. Dan B
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Comment #5 posted by Patrick on January 08, 2002 at 08:48:26 PT
Do not shoot to wound. And yes FoM, it makes me mad to think about and be reminded of last years Labor Day killings of Tom and Rollie by law enforcement officials. It also hurt when I visited Ground Zero this New Year. Violence is sad whether terrorists, governments, drug lords, or the cops perpetrate it. Maybe if all four groups could find happiness within themselves they wouldn't be compelled to strike out at others. Hint - smoke a little pot people. Tom and Rollie died because they believed in defending their home and their freedom for something that our government refuses to tolerate or accept. Which is sad considering our government provides pot to a handful of people. Tolerate some and arrest the rest? Smells of dictatorship or fascism or another host of negative labels I cannot come up with at the moment. What's done is done. 
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Comment #4 posted by FoM on January 08, 2002 at 08:26:52 PT
My Feelings
No matter what they say they didn't have to kill them! They could have shot them in the legs and that would have been bad but they would still be alive. Why did they shoot to kill? I got so angry when I read this. 
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Comment #3 posted by mayan on January 08, 2002 at 08:23:59 PT
I meant....
on that dreadful weekend.
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Comment #2 posted by mayan on January 08, 2002 at 08:22:43 PT
"Teter Said","Teter Said", "Te
If Teter said it then it must be true. I still don't believe that these two peaceful guys both went berzerk on that dreadful day.Dead men tell no tales. How convenient.
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Comment #1 posted by aocp on January 08, 2002 at 07:16:35 PT
Snipers, huh?
You would think that a sniper would be able to take down a man without killing him. However, we're told they were protecting themselves "or others". Probably all the children that are now protected from cannabis, right? What rot.
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