Look at the dates

August 19, 2015

Florida sinkhole reopens two years after it swallowed a sleeping man and killed him

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/08/19/florida-sinkhole-reopens-two-years-after-it-swallowed-a-sleeping-man-and-killed-him/

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March 1, 2013

Massive sinkhole swallows Florida man — and it's still growing

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/01/17145165-massive-sinkhole-swallows-florida-man-and-its-still-growing

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More Images...some are near me...

Many people are happy that they stopped this disaster waiting to happen...

Cross Florida Barge Canal....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_Florida_Barge_Canal

Images...

I see that they showed about 1 or 2 sq. ft. of the hole in the picture, though the article said the hole was 6' X 4', which equals 24 sq. ft., but there's a lot we don't see in the news anymore, at least from media outlets that do what their owners tell them to do.

It will be water that brings its demise. It's already happening. As sea levels rise, the potable water supplies in FL will turn to brine one by one. It's well underway.

August 4...http://www.weather.com/news/news/tampa-florida-flooding-impacts

Tampa Flooding: Anclote River Continues To Rise; Gov. Rick Scott Tours Affected Areas

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August 31.. http://www.weather.com/forecast/regional/news/erika-moisture-flood-threat-florida-southeast

A sinkhole has closed a lane of southbound Interstate 75 in Pasco County, according to Florida Highway Patrol.

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We, all of us, every single human being in the entire world is part of one massive hydrologic cycle. In other words, water is in constant motion from one stage to the next. You can't stop it from moving if you try. The problem is not in the motion, it's in the source. we need a major conservation measure, which is what this pipeline should be.

In the example you cited, Had Enough, the source of the water was another aquifer. That's the problem. We can't keep pumping water out of the ground without caring how it got there in the first place.

The source of the water that I am referring to comes from storm runoff and ice and snow that piles up on the streets of all the cities north of DC (in a typical year) check out what Philadelphia is like in a typical winter or in Buffalo, NY, or even in New York City. The fact is they are paying top dollar to treat ice and snow like trash. A potential asset is written off as a winter expense, and needlessly.

I have heard of plans in the past to tap some water from the Great Lakes and I assure you that will not happen.

In the old days, they used to say, "Whiskey is for drinking. Water is for fighting over!" Well, that fight is far from over. We are approaching a crisis. If we do not take an approach to the problem, our descendants will be blindsided by it.

Anyway,the ballot language in Florida looks good.

I wish we had that kind of choice here in Ohio this November.

And doesn't having two available to sign on to make it more likely that both will fail?

Yes, I read about several situations where that is happening. It does alter a lot of the natural scheme of things which can cause problems. People do need to conserve water. And what is flooding one month can be dry as concrete the next.

Oversharing the water has sometimes left everyone in a mess and short of water. And man... when your water deteriorates... it's rough. Droughts are very scary. I saw desertification start happening around here a few years back. It was frightening. The grasses were drying up and dying and the wind was relentless and blowing the soil away. It was all very "Dust Bowl" looking for awhile there.

It's eased up, but, no doubt, it will come around again some day. This area is covered in conservation lakes built in the last half century, but they were all so low and had been for several years it was a big worry. Most of the lakes filled back up this year. Not all of them, but most of them.

That sort of thing happened here...the county next door bought property in this county and made well fields to pump the water to save their over populated situation...now we have the same...too fast of growth so people can make more money...

There was quite a political battle over that...

But in the end the water was being pumped all over the place...water quality here dropped...tap water not like it used to be...sink holes open up and swallow houses...ruining property ...some of the lakes aren't as clear as they were 20-30 years ago...and the list goes on...

Biggest problem...need 683,149 valid signatures...that means about 1.5 million signatures need to be collected...the supervisor of Elections Office will disqualify any petition that has anything wrong with it at all...Next Problem...After the ballot measure has collected enough qualifying petitions...it has to receive 60% from the voters that participate in the election...not 50%...

Last Election...57 to 58% in favor...on another note...the governors only received about 42% to something like 45%...

William Shatner, for one, has tried very hard to get a campaign going for one. He thinks it should come from the Seattle area. It's being considered. Alaska and Washington also.

Proposed interstate water pipelines to California

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposed_interstate_water_pipelines_to_California

California Drought Solution: Interstate Water Pipeline

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spLKsNLAsh4

BALLOT SUMMARY: This amendment guarantees the right of persons over twenty-one years of age to possess, use, and cultivate cannabis (commonly referred to as marijuana), reserving to the State the power to regulate its purchase and sale in the interest of health and safety. This amendment applies only to Florida law and state action, and does not immunize violations of federal law.

ARTICLE AND SECTION BEING CREATED OR AMENDED: Article I, Section 28

FULL TEXT OF THE PROPOSED CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT:

All people in the State of Florida twenty-one years of age and older shall have the right under state laws to possession, use, and cultivation of cannabis. This right shall not be infringed except that the transfer of cannabis by purchase or sale may be regulated as necessary to ensure health and safety.

"Cannabis" in this section is defined as all parts of any plant of the genus Cannabis, whether growing or not, and the seeds thereof.

The provisions of this section are severable and if any clause or sentence of this measure, or an application thereof, is adjudged invalid by a court of competent jurisdiction, other provisions shall continue to be in effect to the fullest extent possible.

(Back in the late 1970s, when the epileptic seizures started, x-rays were taken. I called my mom and told her that they x-rayed my head and found nothing. She said, "I could've told them that and saved you the co-pay.")

Cannabis is a friend of man, not an enemy. There are many of us who can testify that long-term use does not destroy brain function.

By way of demonstration, I would like to present the following OT idea for discussion:

THE CASE FOR INTERSTATE WATER PIPELINE(S)

Purpose: to move water from where it is considered a nuisance to where it is desperately needed.

Water has a unique place in the world. Nothing (with the possible exception of Congress) vexes us so much by going from indispensable to dangerous to useless and back again.

Without water, human life is not possible. It comprises some 70% of the human body. Even so, water presents a unique conundrum: when there is not enough to sustain a civilization, it is called a drought. When there is too much, it is called a flood. A "Flood" might be defined as when water "becomes a refugee with no place to go."

Freezing temperatures bring ice and snow that must be removed from streets and sidewalks and dumped somewhere until it melts (to create mud in the spring) and until it does, it is no different from any other trash. Unstable snow masses create avalanches that kill many each year. Ice choked rivers causing spring floods is almost a proverb in many places.

So, if you don't drown in it or slip and break your neck on the ice or get swept away in the avalanche, you could still die of thirst.

Where the water can come from is much easier to say than where it should go. Many northern US cities get a lot of snow and it surprises few to see it in very large piles, sometimes two to three stories high. These piles take up valuable parking spaces in large lots and on city streets, (which seem to get narrower as winter progresses). In cities where on-street parking is the only option, residents routinely stake out their claims with chairs and signage, sometimes leading to conflict. Neighbors don't battle one another over parking when there is no snow.

As of August 2015, Buffalo, N.Y., still has snow from last winter, a massive pile dumped in an abandoned train yard. With a pipeline to carry off the snow and ice, city managers could use that land for some productive use and enjoy streets free of snow.

Managers of wastewater treatment plants lose sleep at night when heavy rains threaten to wash raw sewage into streams and rivers. An East-West pipeline to divert runoff before it gets to the treatment plant only makes sense.

Alleviating the natural flooding seen this year, notably in Texas, would be another valuable use for a pipeline. So long as there is a place to put the water, potential flood victims have hope that a flood can be dealt with. Where floods can be expected to occur, a major shunt could divert massive amounts of water away from areas at risk

A pipeline could also generate hydropower - for lighting, pumps, magnets (to remove debris), ultraviolet lights (to kill germs), heaters to melt ice and more.

With reservoir levels dropping and farmers fighting over water rights, the actual end of the Colorado River (for example) disappears long before it ends on the map. Water is needed in the West now more than ever. Many other rivers have wildlife as distressed as the river itself.

Particularly at risk is the central California Valley, whose famous aquifer is being drained like a punch bowl at an Irish wedding, causing subsidence to the land at an alarming rate. The fate of California is tied to this aquifer. Unless this condition is alleviated by water (from one source or another) the appearance of mammoth sinkholes is only a matter of time. These sinkholes could be miles (or even tens of miles) wide. This means that a huge territory of land might become declared uninhabitable with incalculable costs.

All in an earthquake zone.

A water pipeline could also assist firefighters in remote areas in a number of ways, from acting as a huge fire hydrant to controlled releases of water directly onto the landscape from a central location.

Such a project should be able to gain wide support from (for example): Western states, anyone who grows or eats food, manufacturers, the city of Las Vegas (and everyone else out there watching Lake Mead recede) city managers, casino resort property owners and developers.

In the East, expect support from anyone who wants to keep the streets free of ice and snow, including municipalities and other public agencies. Chambers of Commerce. Civic and fraternal organizations like Boy Scouts of America, Rotarians, Kiwanis, etc.

Count snow removal contractors who must pay tipping fees to dump snow somewhere and wastewater treatment plant operators who need an option to dealing with excessive storm runoff as supporters.

Everyone that I have spoken to about this, thinks that it makes much more sense to build a water pipeline to the West to benefit American farmers and American cities than it does to build a north-south pipeline for the sake of Canadian oil companies.

It's time for us to think of water pipelines as a national recycling project and job creator.

The urgency for action is self apparent, but only to those who look.

So does this idea hold water?

Your thoughts, please.

Two voter initiatives to legalize marijuana in Florida have been approved by the state’s Division of Elections, clearing the way for their sponsors to attempt the Herculean task of gathering 683,149 verifiable voter signatures apiece.

A very straight-forward proposal backed by some of the state’s best-known cannabis activists, Parrish residents Bob and Cathy Jordan, would simply make marijuana legal.

“The amendment guarantees the right of persons over twenty-one years of age to possess, use and cultivate cannabis (commonly referred to as marijuana),” the ballot summary states.

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