Antidrug Program Says it Will Adopt a New Strategy

  Antidrug Program Says it Will Adopt a New Strategy

Posted by FoM on February 14, 2001 at 21:47:16 PT
By Kate Zernike 
Source: New York Times 

In a striking shift, leaders of the nation's most widely used program to discourage drug use among schoolchildren have acknowledged that their strategy has not had sufficient impact and say they are developing a new approach to spreading their message.DARE — for Drug Abuse Resistance Education — has grown so rapidly since its founding 18 years ago that it is now taught in 75 percent of school districts nationwide and in 54 other countries. 
Police officers who teach the program have become central figures in the lives of elementary school students, and the program's red logo has taken on iconic status on T-shirts and bumper stickers in thousands of communities.But with its efforts drawing increasing criticism that they don't work, DARE officials and independent researchers have quietly worked for two years to develop a new curriculum and plan to introduce it in Washington today. The new program is aimed at older students than the current one and relies more on having them question their assumptions about drug use than on listening to lectures on the subject. Controlled studies of about 50,000 students will begin in six cities and their suburbs, including New York, in the fall.DARE has long dismissed criticism of its approach as flawed or the work of groups that favor decriminalization of drug use.But the body of research had grown to the point that the organization could no longer ignore it. In the the past two months alone, both the surgeon general and the National Academy of Sciences have issued reports saying that DARE's approach is ineffective; several cities, most recently Salt Lake City, have stopped using the program.DARE is also responding to a new hardnosed mentality among federal education officials, who distribute about $500 million in drug prevention grants each year. Starting last year, the Department of Education said it would no longer let schools spend money from its office of safe and drug-free schools on DARE because department officials did not consider it scientifically proven. The new curriculum buys the program time to prove that it does work.The revisions also reflect a shift in efforts to dissuade children from using drugs. Founded by the Los Angeles Police Department in 1983, the DARE program was infused with the spirit of then-First Lady Nancy Reagan's "Just Say No" approach.The new strategy reflects research that criticized that approach as simplistic, and some other research that suggested that the DARE program occasionally encourages drug use, by making it seem more prevalent than it is."Our feeling was, after looking at the prevention movement, we were not having enough of an impact," said Herbert D. Kleber, the head of DARE's scientific advisory panel who is also medical director of the National Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse at Columbia University. "There was a marked rise in drug use. Our job was to answer the question, how can we make it better?"The DARE approach has been a mix of different messages about drug abuse and violence, but at its core it involves police officers visiting elementary schools to tell students the dangers of drugs and the importance of self-esteem, and offering them different ways to say "No."More than 30 studies have been conducted of the DARE program, and the two most frequently cited studies both reached the same conclusion: Any effect the program has in deterring drug use disappears as students enter senior year of high school or college.One six-year study by the University of Illinois found that the program's effects were off by senior year of high school; in fact, it detected some increased drug use by suburban high school students who had taken the program. And a 10-year study by the University of Kentucky found the DARE program had no effect on students by the time they were 20 years old."There's quite a bit we can do to make it better and we realize that," said Glenn Levant, president and founding director of DARE America, based in Los Angeles. "I'm not saying it was effective, but it was state of the art when we launched it. Now it's time for science to improve upon what we're doing."The new DARE program is being developed at the University of Akron in Ohio by Zili Sloboda, who as director of the National Institute on Drug Abuse wrote a list of principles to guide drug-prevention programs. The program's development is underwritten by a $13.7 million grant from the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation, a philanthropy devoted to health care.The new program will work largely on changing what are known as "social norms" among students. The idea, which has been shown in limited studies to reduce drinking on college campuses, is that traditional prevention programs may lead students to overestimate how many of their peers use drugs. Because teenagers are so open to peer influence, the students then begin to aspire to that "norm" and think they must use drugs to fit in.DARE's focus will shift from its current audience of fifth-grade students to those in the seventh grade, and will add a booster program in ninth grade, because students in the higher grades are more likely to experiment with drugs. The new program also changes how police officers are used, having them serve more as coaches than as lecturers. The officers are to encourage students to challenge the social norms in discussion groups; the intended result is that the students will conclude on their own that they do not need to use drugs to fit in.Students are also to do more role- playing, with an emphasis on how to make decisions, and to discuss the effects of media and advertising. Dr. Sloboda said that, as head of the National Institute on Drug Abuse, she had been concerned that DARE was not a proven program. But, she and others emphasized, it is far from the only program that does not work — it has simply drawn the most criticism because it is the largest.Indeed, DARE has enjoyed broad support, from Congress to local school boards and newspapers. It gets about $1.7 million from the Department of Justice; $215 million in indirect benefits from police departments that pay the salaries of the officers; and about $15 million in corporate support. An industry has developed around the program and the sale of T-shirts, bumper stickers and textbooks; DARE affinity credit cards are even available.The new program took seed in 1999, when the departments of Education and Justice, tired of the warring between researchers and DARE, brought the two sides together at meetings in Washington.At the same time, the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation was looking for a drug prevention program to finance. DARE had the network in schools, but a program that the foundation said was less than effective. Other researchers had promising strategies but no access into schools. "There's a gap between what we know and what we practice," said Nancy J. Kaufman, vice president of the foundation. "We knew we had better prevention technology that was not being applied, we knew there was this increase in drug use among young people, and we said, `You know what, we think we can change this. Let's stop the rhetoric and fighting and see if we can't craft something better.' "DARE was open to change."Neither the message nor the messenger was sacred," said William F. Alden, a former deputy director of DARE. "Only the mission was."The cities tentatively selected to feature the new program are New York, Baltimore, Houston, Denver, San Francisco and Los Angeles. The new curriculum, Dr. Sloboda said, will be tested in 80 high schools and the 176 middle schools that feed them — half the schools will continue using the curriculum they do now, including the old DARE program in some cases, and the other half will use the new DARE program.Students will be surveyed before and after seventh and ninth grade, and interviewed more extensively after eighth, tenth, and eleventh grade."We'd like to see them never use drugs, but realistically, people understand that for a great number of adolescents, they might try something at least once," Ms. Kaufman said. "The later you can have them do that, the older they are, and hopefully they will decide not to. With age comes reason." Source: New York Times (NY)Author: Kate ZernikePublished: February 15, 2001Copyright: 2001 The New York Times CompanyAddress: 229 West 43rd Street, New York, NY 10036Fax: (212) 556-3622Contact: letters nytimes.comWebsite: DARE Archives

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Comment #31 posted by Robbie on February 16, 2001 at 10:19:08 PT
Hey dddd
A "tie-dyed" star! Great visual. Like you said, just wear all those stars as badges of honor.You know what? I have my good days and bad days when I see the MJ and drug reform movement progressing (or not progressing.) Today I'll side in favor of a speedy shift in overall outlook. Today I believe that national decriminalization (removal of MJ from Sched. I) will be seen within 5 years... No, make it three! Offer ends soon! Tomorrow I'll be reminded that these same anti's are the same people who would dare decide that certain people do not deserve children. Then (at least in my mind) legalize/decrim would never happen, and the Revolution would be at hand.This is your brain NOT on drugs. Any questions?
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Comment #30 posted by kaptinemo on February 16, 2001 at 08:07:01 PT:
National ID's and the death of freedom
One of my favorite authors once said that when a place gets too political to the point where there are calls for national ID's, it's time to move on. But the problem is, where can you go to be free, again? Antarctica?Many times, some of our readers have opined that they are going to leave the country to find more free-er (and therefore, pot-friendly) places. But Uncle's madness does not respect national boundaries. Uncle has already demonstrated his very long reach, before. He has invaded sovereign nations (Panama comes to mind) just to get one of his (oh-so-well-trained) rogue drug traffickers. Uncle has also expended millions of dollars and thousands of man-hours trying to extradite a harmless flower-child type like Rene Boje from Canada just for being in a room where legal(!) pot plants happened to be, then something's seriously wrong. And it serves to illustrate a point. Do you think he cares about what it would cost to get you if he wants to?No one is safe. No nation is a safe harbor. Uncle is as crazed as the stereotypical axe-wielding muggle-toker he painted cannabis users as being in his earliest propaganda. Only this monster is real. He's killed little children in his crusade to protect them. He's stolen billions from citizens at gunpoint without due process while loudly proclaiming that he stands for the 'rule of law'. He's imprisoned harmless people like Will Foster and murdered by decree people like Peter McWilliams - while letting murderers and child molestors and rapists go free to clear the bed space.Uncle is as mad as The Mad King Ludwig, and no place is safe from his depredations.Either we, Americans, end the madness of the DrugWar, or there will be no place for free people to go that Uncle can't follow. It's that simple.
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Comment #29 posted by dddd on February 16, 2001 at 04:09:23 PT
drug offender registry
Yup zion,I think your scenario is quite likely.After being released from prison,terms of your parolewill require you to register as a "drug offender".Perhaps you will have to wear a symbol to identify youas a violator.A green star for marijuana,a white star forcocaine,a red star for meth,a blue star for extacy,,,and atie-dye star for halucenogens....If I was busted snortingcoke,while smoking a reefer,stoned on acid,,and they plantedsome meth on me,,by the time they finally cut me loose,I wouldbe seen with four or five stars like some cub scout merit badges.dddd
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Comment #28 posted by zion on February 16, 2001 at 03:40:07 PT
Rasta and DD**2's dreams
Yep, and if one explores Rastafarianism, they soon discover that it's really Christianity, as the belief is that Haile Selasie was/is Jesus Christ in the second coming, fulfilling Revelation 5:5, the "Lion of the Tribe of Judah". Rastafarians also believe that ganja is a sacrement, a gift from God, facilitating the Holy Spirit. There are traditional Christians that believe this too (even church-going Lutherans such as myself).So don't throw the baby out with the bathwater, and don't believe that all Christians support the WoD. There are many who are actively trying to wake up those who have been letting the government use them as tool for their authoritarian, police-state agendas masked as "defending families".DDdd - I believe that your dream will come true, but maybe not with the tatoo. I think it is much more likely that a drug-offender registry will be implemented, much like the sex-offender registry is now. This already is somewhat being started by financial aid applications at U.S. higher Ed institutions and through the drug testing industry. I think it will be more formalized in the future. Look for discussions about "recidivism", the high cost of drug re-offenders and the right of neighborhoods to know when a "known drug offender" moves in to a neighborhood to surface as an indicator that a national database and police registry are just around the corner. -z
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Comment #27 posted by Mr. 2toes on February 15, 2001 at 20:41:57 PT
Dan hillman...
[I cant see you and I'm only assuming the intent of your post(message #22)]You seem to be confusing the actions of men with the actions of gods.I think the biggest faith-based stepping stone that reformers could use is Rastafarianism, who are not allowed to 'fully' practice there religion in the USA because of these stupid laws.
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Comment #26 posted by NiftySplifty on February 15, 2001 at 20:02:30 PT
Wow, do those bring back memories...
I recall the "This Was Your Life" one Observer mentioned. I also recall one with someone named "Beelzebub Fox" and one where these guys were fighting in a war, and they see one of their dead friends laying on his back with a smile. One guy says, "I want that", or something, and gets blasted. But, he goes to Heaven. Oh gee...goodie-goodie messages sugar-coating the "believe or burn forever" core. Strangely enough, this kind of fire-and-brimstone (ever notice how much pointing of fingers go on in these cartoons?) really fits into the mentality of the WoD. Well, it's not really that strange. It's the "believe this or burn forever" witch hunting.On a D.A.R.E. related note, I recall the program being taught in our health class in L.A. and the officer taught us that marijawanna would make us grow breasts. Everyone's heard that one. They even showed these videotapes of some guy ranting on stage about how many hundreds of chemicals were in marijawanna, and that one joint could kill you. Anyone ever seen these videos with the yelling lunatic? Who was he?Nifty...
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Comment #25 posted by observer on February 15, 2001 at 18:49:27 PT
Chick in America
Hmmmm. Well, I just wanted to throw a few things out there that came to mind when I read about dddd's dream. I thought the tattoo (ok, the Chick tract uses the word "mark") in the 1st panel of that Chick tract was pretty wild, on the foreheads of a swooning Mom, Pop, and Jr, too. I have to admit, I should have posted this: The Beast (WARNING: Chick Tract)'s tracts are pretty wild, I'll grant you that. I remember reading "This Was Your Life" when I was about ...14. A little slice of Americana. "This Was Your Life!" (WARNING!: Chick Tract, 1 huge 480k image) Chick's images of God are sometimes spoofed, like here: (starting with this panel: ) 
tattoo ?
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Comment #24 posted by Robbie on February 15, 2001 at 18:45:52 PT
Oh, and another thing
This evening's ABC News had as one of its banner news bytes this story on the "reform" and "new look" at DARE. (I missed the actual story they ran.) They didn't even mention the story about the eugenics horror in Virginia. And to think, just yesterday the execs at these news agencies were screaming, bitching, moaning, and complaining that their 1st Amendment rights were being violated because they were being told they couldn't call the race before it was over. Sheesh! They can't even get with it on the most important story of the century. It's like Hearst's papers, "All the news that's fit to print." The banners on the news organizations today should read "All the news that we feel you should know." Man, to think I used to have hope.
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Comment #23 posted by dddd on February 15, 2001 at 15:37:28 PT
I like chicks,,but not that one!
Your commentary was a bit brisk,,and heavily infested with assumptions....forgive me.If you thought I was defending,,or in any way advocating this weird Chick person,and his astounding cartoon ministry,,,then you also assumed wrong.It wasnt my intent to defend Lutherans either.The first I had seen of this Chick stuff was today.I dont blame you for feeling strongly on this topic.The Chick pamphlets are quite bizzarre,,and I can imagine how they might affect one at the age of 14.That is one weird Chick!..............dddd
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Comment #22 posted by Dan Hillman on February 15, 2001 at 14:15:33 PT
4D, let's get real about Jack T. Chick
Why do you think I decided to drop xtianity at age 14? Because someone handed me a few Jack T. Chick publications thinking to sway me during my impressionable youth.  They sure swayed me alright. I dropped xtianity like a hot potato after reading those infinitely hateful tracts. A couple of Hal Lindsey books floating around our church (*Late Great Planet Earth* was one) put the final nails in the coffin of my experiment with "faith".If we're going to mention religious publications as supporting reform arguments, I would suggest that we treat Jack T. Chick publications like the radioactive materials that they are, and avoid them like plutonium.Don't jump to conclusions about my feelings about "higher power", but at the same time, proposing Chick publications as a source of wisdom simply negates any point that might be made.
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Comment #21 posted by dddd on February 15, 2001 at 13:45:49 PT
I happen to be an "xtian",,and I think that trying to stereotype believersis about like saying all pot smokers are spaced out idiots whos only goalin life is to get really stoned.I was also endoctrinated into the Lutheran flavor of xtianity at an early age.I never bought into it,and I became a zealous atheist,God hating,xtian critisizing,wanderer.In my late teens,I realized that God was real.Many "xtians" do not physically visit church every sunday....Beware of hate for any reason...One who might see xtianity as a "hate" group,should not forget to look in the mirror,and review their own hate situation.Keep in mind that there are far more non-xtian hateful people than xtian hatefuls.I dont think it is a resonable thing to write off xtianity as a "hate group".JAH is no secret.......may he shine on your soul......................dddd 
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Comment #20 posted by Dan Hillman on February 15, 2001 at 13:04:09 PT
Ivan Stang on Jack Chick publications
Ivan Stang referred to Jack T. Chick publications in his 1988 book "High Wierdness by Mail".He said: "[these tracts] teach you how to HATE for jesus".Yes, and I would add that one could say that about the entire xtian religion, *especially* the book of revelation.Note to xtians: I was "confirmed" (indoctrinated) in the lutheran "faith" at age 14. I soon learned that xtianity was mostly based on hatred of "non-believers" and I gave it up *quick*.Let's not forget, reformers, that most drug warriors claim to be devout xtians.
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Comment #19 posted by Robbie on February 15, 2001 at 12:36:24 PT
Right on, FoM!
I wouldnt doubt that reference meant legal drugs...hell, look at all the Ritalin pushed on 2 yr olds. With the genome now mapped, it wont be long before they give us a pill to make sure our children come out "just right."When you question what ecstasy does or doesn't do, remember that drug companies push something like it on the unsuspecting public (Prozac, Xanax, etc.) saying how beneficial it is, then fighting hard against E because "further testing is required."
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Comment #18 posted by FoM on February 15, 2001 at 11:09:22 PT

My 2 cents
I spent many many hours years ago in the Book of Revelation. Many things that are happening today seem totally uncanny. I always thought that the reference to pharmacopeia was illegal drugs but I don't think so anymore. I think they meant legal prescription drugs.
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Comment #17 posted by kaptinemo on February 15, 2001 at 11:02:44 PT:

Nightmares come true
Someone had already posted something similar, but I hadn't looked until just now. I did a search with Northern Light (my hands down favorite search engine) and came up with this:Results for the words "Beast", "666", and "microchip" first article in the stack was: that old TV series, the 6 Million Dollar Man? In the beginning of the introduction, a voice over of a government spook was saying "We can rebuild him, we have the technology. We can make him better than he was." Another voice asks "Better?" and the first voice says "Stronger. "Faster".Would you trust the US government, who has directly and indirectly in the last 7 years killed children in order to save them, to make you..."better"?As in " a better person". To be construed as being a good, compliant little sheep who will not even bleat as they strip and execute you?Microchip technology already exists: my cat has a chip under his skin. In case by some accident he gets outside, his breakaway collar is lost, and is picked up by Animal Control, he can be identified quickly and I be notified within minutes of his location (instead of his facing the heartbreak and sheer terror of a short shelter life followed by being put down).But would you want the government doing that to you...for your own good?But, know what would truly be ironic? Many right-wing Christian Fundamentalists are people who believe that the Feds are the pawns of Satan, Himself, and that acceptance of such a 'mark' is to bend knee to Satan. And yet John Ashcroft supposedly holds these kinds of beliefs. He is supposedly a Fundamentalist. So, you'd think he'd be horrified at the prospect of such a system, wouldn't you?But do any of you harbor a doubt, even for a split second, that this fine upstanding 'Christian' man wouldn't line us all up at gunpoint to be 'marked' in precisely this way?
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Comment #16 posted by dddd on February 15, 2001 at 10:03:47 PT

good points
You could easily be right about the distance of the future Morgan,butwhen you consider how fast the WoDs has already changed much ofthe nature of our demockrassy,in ways that would seem to be unimaginableaccording to the Constitution,,,then it is not hard to imagine Ashcroft gettingbehind such a plan,,claiming it is in the best interest of the poor drug abusers,to allow them a way to escape the overcrowded prisons,providing theygo into the ondcps' new "treatment of drug abusers" program,T.O.D.A. It would be announced as a humane way to treat non-violent offenders...etc.Heck,,I could see it happening in the next few years......dddd
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Comment #15 posted by defenderoffreeworld on February 15, 2001 at 09:42:16 PT:

hey dddd....
did you know that they previously suggested doing that with ex convicts? they would be allowed a reduced sentence, only if they consented to be sprayed with a sort of invisible blue paint, that would make them easily identifiable for the police. however, that didn't come through, but it will soon. do you even doubt it? anyone who doubts that the new world order will be one of ruthless totalitarianism and control of the masses has another thought comming. 
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Comment #14 posted by Morgan on February 15, 2001 at 09:36:31 PT

Distant future...
Scary dream dddd, but I think it will remain in the nightmare realm. If it happens, it will be in the far distant future, when all memory and reference of Nazi concentration camps and their tattooing of prisoners will have been systematically eradicated from the public conciousness. But it is still too fresh of a memory. Not unlike all memory and historical reference that has been systematically removed from the public eye about hemp for the past 60 years, resulting in our present day situation. Thank (insert your prefered diety) for the internet.**************************************************
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Comment #13 posted by observer on February 15, 2001 at 09:25:07 PT

re: The tattoo 
Tattooed Arm of Nazi Concentration Camp Survivor Beast (Chick Tract)
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Comment #12 posted by dddd on February 15, 2001 at 08:53:09 PT

bad dream
I had a strange dream the other night.The details were not clear,butit had something to do with getting busted,and getting a tattoo from thegovernment when I was being institutionalized.It inspired me to make this wreckless,,yet plausible prediction;In the not too distant future,,rather than reducing mandatory sentences,orreforming the natziesque drug laws,,a system will be devised where onecan be released from prison,if you agree to have some sort of tattoo thatreadily identifies you as a drug offender.It will be part of the "treatment",to "help" you not do drugs again.The tattoo will remind you not to do drugs,and it will allow the state to easily identify you as someone who was oncebusted for drugs.dddd
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Comment #11 posted by Dan B on February 15, 2001 at 08:23:59 PT:

Robbie, thanks for the article link
I saw a report on this very thing this morning on CNN (as I recall--I was flipping through the channels. Anyway, it was one of those all day news channels). They mentioned that some of those sterilized were drug "addicts." If this is true, then we finally have an admission of guilt from those who have sought to wipe us out. 60,000 people were sterilized in over 20 states. Remarkable, but not unbelievable. That's right, folks. America was a model for Hitler! Several states in this country introduced eugenics programs long before Hitler did the same in the 1930s. And these states didn't stop the eugenics sterilization rpogram until the late 1970s. Scary, eh?What's more frightening is that there is no indication they won't do it again. They refuse to compensate those who were sterilized.Dan B
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Comment #10 posted by Robbie on February 15, 2001 at 08:05:08 PT

Here's a new approach
D.A.R.E. to be different...D.A.R.E. to be unique . . .D.A.R.E. to go right out and do every damn drug you can get your hands on !What difference does it make?
Drugs? Sure, why not...
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Comment #9 posted by dddd on February 15, 2001 at 07:19:41 PT

New Spring Fresh Ultra-DARE
It's disgusting to read the sorry statements from the DARE people in this article.They have no concept of rethinking what they are doing,they are heavily underthe influence or maintaining their livelyhood.New!!!!!Pine scented Industrial strength DARETwo-ply Quilted DARE....with wings!dddd
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Comment #8 posted by Dan B on February 15, 2001 at 06:49:36 PT:

I Like Your Metaphor, dddd
Ultra DARE with whitenersHow appropos, being that the goal of zero-tolerance drug policies has basically been ethnic "cleansing."On another note, consider this statement from the above article: The new program will work largely on changing what are known as "social norms" among students. The idea, which has been shown in limited studies to reduce drinking on college campuses, is that traditional prevention programs may lead students to overestimate how many of their peers use drugs. Because teenagers are so open to peer influence, the students then begin to aspire to that "norm" and think they must use drugs to fit in. There is absolutely nothing new in this approach; it's the same exact thing they have been doing all along: lying. Studies show that more than 50% of high school seniors have tried marijuana--certainly reflecting the fact that casual drug use is the norm for that age group. Wake up, D.A.R.E. people! Your idiot-inspired program can do nothing but dare young people to use the drugs you claim to keep them from using. Worse, they might very well turn to the dangerous drugs the American government advocates: alcohol and tobacco.Dan B
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Comment #7 posted by Ethan Russo, MD on February 15, 2001 at 05:18:37 PT:

Continue Funding, or Do What Works?
Inherent in this article's whole discussion is the proposal that all the jurisdictions still clinging to DARE should continue to do so for the additional 5-10 years that are necessary to assess efficacy. I don't think so. Rather, schools should pursue reality-based drug education, and follow the lead of Marsha Rosenbaum:Intro Page: of Superb Brochure: on Real Drug Education:
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Comment #6 posted by sm247 on February 15, 2001 at 04:43:20 PT

Dare to go away
D.A.R.E.  jeez sounds like your daring them to do it Dare to jump of a cliff???
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Comment #5 posted by dddd on February 14, 2001 at 23:58:47 PT

I knew it
Faced with so many irrefutable statistics,they finally had to sheepishly admit to the failure.The matter is handled delicatly.They are careful not to admit to how completly DARE sucked.They finally hired some damage control experts,and here is what is gonna happen.;;The people behind DARE will now rally all the loyal people on the DARE gravy train,,,,,,and DARE will be morphed into a whole new DARE!....It will re-surface under some new and improved label.How about;"DARE II",,,,,,,,,or;"DARE PLUS".DARE Lite..........................New unscented DARE.......................DARE Free.....................Ultra DARE with whiteners.......DARE will not be going away any time soon.The absurd and idiotic program will come back under a new name..........just watch..............dddd
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Comment #4 posted by Toker00 on February 14, 2001 at 23:00:30 PT

Time for a new batch of lies.
Oh, ok. So they are tired and bored of the old lies, so they are cooking up new lies. They sure would save a ton of money, and protect the children better, if they would just tell them the TRUTH about drugs. But then, that would take all the fun out of their little war, wouldn't it? Children might actually listen to the truth, and use could DECLINE, but then they wouldn't have anyone to put in PRISON when the kids come of age, would they? Their profit margins and job securities would decline. And that, folks, is what the DRUG WAR is all about. So they whip up a bunch of new lies, to keep their CASH FLOW intact. And maybe, if the NEW LIES are better than the OLD LIES, they can suck more money out of the government to expand their ranks. And the beat goes on.Peace. Tell the truth, then Legalize.
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Comment #3 posted by arcturus on February 14, 2001 at 22:40:37 PT

"by" the time, that is....
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Comment #2 posted by arcturus on February 14, 2001 at 22:39:12 PT

"With age comes reason."
So following this logic, but the time someone is, say, 21 years old they have the wisdom to make their own decisions about drug use. Yeah, I like that.
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Comment #1 posted by Cajun01 on February 14, 2001 at 22:23:34 PT

You know....
     ....if they put as much effort into making Santa Clause believable...... Will the brainwashing ever end and the education begin??????I guess not until the politicians become educated first.
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