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L.A.'s Medical Marijuana Mess
Posted by CN Staff on July 26, 2012 at 06:13:38 PT
LA Times Editorial
Source: Los Angeles Times 
California -- The Los Angeles City Council is plainly out of its depth when it comes to regulating medical marijuana. This was already clear after years of fumbling and court-delayed attempts to limit the number or locations of cannabis dispensaries, but it became painfully obvious Tuesday when the council approved a ban on all dispensaries  along with a separate motion to draft an ordinance that would allow well-established pot shops to stay open, partially defeating the council's own purpose.
Not that we can really blame the council for being confused. We're confused about how to legally restrict a quasi-legal business too. For that matter, so is the entire state of California. And that's causing even bigger problems than usual as the federal government, which considers marijuana an illegal drug, has begun a series of raids on California pot outlets.Is L.A.'s new ban even legal? There's no clear answer to that question, but a recent court ruling suggests that it isn't. After Los Angeles County imposed a blanket ban on pot distribution in unincorporated areas in December 2010, it was challenged by a Covina collective, which won a key victory this month in the state's 2nd District Court of Appeal. Writing for the three-justice panel, Justice Robert Mallano said the county's ban was preempted by state law and contradicted the intent of the Legislature.Of course, it isn't that simple. The Los Angeles County ban would have closed all distribution outlets, whereas the city of L.A.'s ban would allow small collectives with three or fewer members to stay open. The city's lawyers say that key difference should persuade the courts to approve L.A.'s "gentle ban," and as ammunition they point to a separate ruling by a different 2nd District Court justice that suggested the city's approach would neither constitute a true ban nor violate state law.If thinking about all that isn't enough to give you a migraine  which, on the plus side, is enough justification to get a medical recommendation for a dose of cannabis in California  there is the added complication that could arise if the City Council goes ahead with the separate ordinance to allow certain dispensaries to stay open. Specifically, Councilman Paul Koretz called Tuesday for staff to draw up a draft that would grant immunity from the ban to those facilities that were in place before a 2007 city moratorium on new dispensaries was approved. This brings up unhappy memories of L.A.'s years-long attempts to regulate billboards, when strict regulatory ordinances were undermined by council members carving out exemptions for certain signs in their districts. Courts tend to take a dim view of that kind of favoritism.So let's review: L.A. has banned all but the tiniest marijuana collectives. When it attempts to enforce this ban, it will be sued. Action will be delayed for months, or quite possibly until the state Supreme Court weighs in on a series of marijuana cases next year. Mission accomplished?Source: Los Angeles Times (CA)Published: July 26, 2012Copyright: 2012 Los Angeles TimesContact: letters latimes.comWebsite: http://www.latimes.com/URL: http://drugsense.org/url/fiU6EzpFCannabisNews  Medical Marijuana Archiveshttp://cannabisnews.com/news/list/medical.shtml 
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Comment #17 posted by Dr Ganj on July 28, 2012 at 19:51:11 PT:
Mexico
I've been all over Mexico since 1984.
The US demand for drugs has created untold misery for the Mexican people. Don't blame the cartels for making money in a black market free-for-all. The blame is directly on the US government. One stroke of a pen, and Barack Obama could make hemp legal. He could also make marijuana schedule II. But, no, he won't, because he sold out to Big Oil, Big Pharma, and the Prison Industrial Complex.
So, 50,000+ Mexicans murdered, thousands missing, and after 40 years since "Tricky" Dick Nixon started this war against humanity, the blood still pours down the streets. This is more than all the Americans killed in Vietnam, and because there is so much money in keeping *some* drugs illegal, the carnage will continue.
So, as the world hears of the gruesome murders here in Mexico, many decide not to visit. Okay, fair enough, but the main battle is near the border towns like Nuevo Laredo.
See: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/in-nuevo-laredo-23-corpses-found-on-grisly-day-in-mexican-drug-cartel-war/2012/05/04/gIQAFegK2T_story.html
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I'm here, in Puerto Vallarta, where there is a very low crime rate, and the people here are so friendly.
See: http://visitpuertovallarta.com/living/
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As to Canada, I was just up there a month ago in Kelowna.
Nice people, but, *really expensive*, and the winters are so brutal, it's not even a remote consideration to move there.
In Mexico, with your passport, you can stay here for 180 days. There is Walmart, Costco, malls, movie theaters without psycho white kids, and so many amazing restaurants.
See: http://www.facebook.com/JoeJacksFishShack?ref=stream 
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I guess the only problem with living here, is you can drink Coronas on the beach- all day long, for only a dollar each. It takes extreme discipline not to get too loaded. 
Personal use of all drugs is also legal here, so once again, discipline is paramount. 
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I have a fabulous apartment 100 feet from the beach, and all my neighbors are so nice. So, the US, after all my patience waiting for "Change I Can Believe In" has been nothing but a 
total disappointment. Expect more of the same. I'm done, and 
have gone South where I don't worry any more.
The only thing I worry about now, is do I have enough cilantro for my fish dinner I'm about to cook?Saludos de Mexico,Dr Ganj
http://visitpuertovallarta.com/living/
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Comment #16 posted by Hope on July 28, 2012 at 08:59:53 PT
Some pictures.
Obama cheered, jeered in Oaklandhttp://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/slideshow/Obama-cheered-jeered-in-Oakland-46496.php#photo-3231633
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Comment #15 posted by ekim on July 28, 2012 at 06:38:40 PT
new moms group - starts around the 1hour 10min
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/planetgreentrees/2012/07/27/planet-green-trees-episode-104-legal-updates-and-politics
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Comment #14 posted by FoM on July 27, 2012 at 12:55:40 PT
afterburner
So far this summer we have been without power at least 5 days. The one time was for three full days and the heat was unbearable. Thank goodness we had a fan running on the generator. One more day and our health was going to be affected. I have no idea how anyone can deny global warming or total climate change.
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Comment #13 posted by afterburner on July 27, 2012 at 11:16:36 PT
FoM - our storm
We had a storm in Ontario early morning on July 25, 2102, thunder & lightning. I was on the laptop when the power went out, the whole house in darkness. I had to search for my flashlight to see anything. It lasted only about 5 minutes for us, but some people in the area had to wait several hours until morning for repairs.When the blackout occurred the laptop switched to battery, and I immediately shut it down. (On a previous day this summer, it overheated and it took 4 hours to restore the files). The VCR/DVD combo kept it's settings and the DSL had to reset, but I had to reset only one clock. We got off easy this time. "What a summer," indeed! How can some people still deny that we have global warming? "God and nature are more powerful than we are." --i.don't.remember.who.said.it 
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Comment #12 posted by FoM on July 27, 2012 at 09:45:21 PT
Hope
I will be glad when we get the Generlink installed. They are backed up 6 weeks. It only takes 30 minutes to install. The electric company comes out and installs it in the meter. We will convert the generator to propane and have it hooked into the propane tank by the gas company. It's a shame that this is the future unless we update the electric grid. I feel really sorry for folks that live in cities and can't have a generator when the power fails. I hope if a hurricane hits and we get the aftermath of a storm that people are ready. Our one friend had to drive almost 100 miles to find a generator to buy during the last storm. People were lined up for 40 that were in stock and many didn't get one. 
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Comment #11 posted by Hope on July 27, 2012 at 09:15:33 PT
I saw it in the News this morning.
Ohio, Pennsylvania, and New York. It said two people were killed because of the storm.
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Comment #10 posted by FoM on July 27, 2012 at 08:00:36 PT
Hope
We didn't have any damage this time. We only lost power for 5 hours. This has been a hot, dry and then major storm summer. I read 50,000 were without power in the state last night. This storm wasn't near as bad as the one about a month ago. That wrecked a church and buildings in the city near us.
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Comment #9 posted by Hope on July 27, 2012 at 07:51:03 PT
FoM
How did you guys fare through last night's storm?
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Comment #8 posted by FoM on July 27, 2012 at 06:33:59 PT
Hope
The power is back on. What a summer this has been. 
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Comment #7 posted by Hope on July 26, 2012 at 21:21:07 PT
Comment 5
I don't blame you, FoM. I would hate so bad to be struck air conditionerless tonight. Aaargh.Hey, Dr. Ganj. I'm glad you like it there. It's a loss to this country, but I'm glad to hear you are content there. 
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Comment #6 posted by John Tyler on July 26, 2012 at 19:45:26 PT
south of the border
Could you tell us more in general about Mexico? Are there cool American enclaves, cost of living, mediacl, etc. Do you hable espaniol?
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Comment #5 posted by FoM on July 26, 2012 at 17:19:29 PT
Power Is Off Again
We had another storm and it knocked out the power. I think I love our generator.
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Comment #4 posted by FoM on July 26, 2012 at 17:15:23 PT
Dr Ganj
I don't blame you for moving. I love it where we live but it isn't near a city and we don't have problems like you have in California.
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Comment #3 posted by Sam Adams on July 26, 2012 at 16:57:05 PT
Dr. Ganj
Most interesting!  Would you be willing to share the general region of Mexico that you chose?  Where are the popular places for retired Americans?I've been looking at Canada with the same idea. I think it's hard to emigrate from the US though, they're no dummies up there, it's not hard to see what's coming down the road, everyone is going to want in at some point. 
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Comment #2 posted by Dr Ganj on July 26, 2012 at 12:26:36 PT
LA-No Mas! 
What a mess!
Glad I'm retired in Mexico, where nobody cares what we do. 
It's really that simple. Everything goes here. You name it, we have it, and all is so cool.
The US is a police state, and I'm so content here. No more fear, and that is all we ever wanted. Get your passport! Viva Mexico!
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Comment #1 posted by ekim on July 26, 2012 at 07:11:29 PT
tonights show at 8pm -MI Med cannabis blogradio
http://michiganmedicalmarijuana.org/topic/40639-planet-green-trees-episode-104-craig-covey-and-rick-simpson/
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