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Medical Use of Marijuana Costs Some a Paycheck
Posted by CN Staff on August 28, 2010 at 09:31:43 PT
By Jennifer Mascia
Source: New York Times
USA -- Residents in 14 states and Washington can now appeal to their doctors for prescriptions for medical marijuana to help them with their pain. Their employers, however, may not be so understanding.In some cases, workers have been fired for failing drug tests despite having prescriptions saying, in effect, that what they are doing is legal according to the laws of their states.
Though the number of such cases appears to be small, they are exposing a new legal gray area, with workers complaining of rights violations and company officials scratching their heads over how to enforce a uniform policy for a drug that the federal government has not recognized as having a legitimate medical purpose.“The current state of affairs puts employers in a very difficult situation,” said Barbara L. Johnson, an employment lawyer in Washington. “But the reality is that there are no federal guidelines like there are when dealing with other types of prescription medications.”Some workers have learned about this legal quandary first-hand, at the cost of their jobs.Nick Stennet, 20, has a congenital disorder called Poland’s syndrome, which left him without a chest muscle on the right side of his body and with a right hand with fingers substantially shorter than those on his left.Doctors prescribed one or two inhalations of marijuana each night before bed to relieve severe muscle stiffness and shooting pains in his arms.Mr. Stennet said he told the human resources manager at the Home Depot in Hilo, Hawaii, about his prescription when he was being hired. But after his drug test came back positive for tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, the active chemical in marijuana, he was out a job.“Why would they send me down there when they know I am going to test positive?” he said. “I feel like they put me through ridicule when it was so avoidable.”Steve Holmes, a Home Depot spokesman, said the company followed federal guidelines for its drug policy. Employees are allowed to take a leave if they choose to use marijuana to combat the side effects of treatment for a serious ailment. When they return, however, the THC must be out of their systems.“It’s a safety issue for us,” Mr. Holmes said.Cynthia Estlund, a professor of labor and employment law at New York University, said that only one state that had legalized medical marijuana had taken the additional step of saying explicitly that it was unlawful to fire someone for using a lawful substance.At the same time, Ms. Estlund said, “Nothing in the law tells employers what to do, so they don’t have to fire them under federal law.”That is the objection raised by Scott Michelman, a lawyer for the American Civil Liberties Union, on behalf of his client, Joseph Casias.In 2008, Mr. Casias, a father of two who medicates with marijuana to relieve the pain of inoperable brain and sinus cancer, was named associate of the year at the Wal-Mart in Battle Creek, Mich. But when he injured his knee last year, company policy required a drug test. The positive result cost him his job.In June, the A.C.L.U. filed a complaint in state court on his behalf, citing wrongful termination. He is seeking reinstatement and damages.“The cancer is not what’s keeping him from earning a living — Wal-Mart is,” Mr. Michelman said. “There’s actually no law to require Wal-Mart to do what they did.”Greg Rossiter, a spokesman for Wal-Mart, said: “This is obviously an unfortunate situation all around. But we have to consider the overall safety of our customers and our associates.”On the broader legal question, Mr. Rossiter added: “As more states allow this treatment, employers are left without guidelines.”Only the Rhode Island Medical Marijuana Act offers protection to medical marijuana cardholders for students, employees and tenants. Michigan’s law does not compel an employer to make accommodations for marijuana consumption “in any workplace” or for “any employee working while under the influence of marijuana,” according to the legislation.While that addresses marijuana smoking at work or just before work, the Michigan law does not speak to what employees can do away from work. Mr. Michelman of the A.C.L.U. said he believed that there was no gray area and that federal law does not govern the relationship between a private employer and an employee.“There is only one law governing this situation, and that’s Michigan law,” he said.John Vasconcellos, a California state senator who was a leading advocate for medical marijuana legislation there, said lawmakers had not anticipated such a collision of state and federal law in employment practices.“I think they’re hiding from common sense, and they’re hiding from the science that shows it might help their employee be more healthy and feel less pain,” Mr. Vasconcellos said of companies that fired employees with medical marijuana registry cards, prescriptions or endorsements from doctors.In Colorado, the right to use medical marijuana for a debilitating medical condition is protected by the State Constitution — though with limitations — making it unique among states where it is legal. But Brandon Coats, 30, a phone operator at Dish Network who has used a wheelchair since he was paralyzed in a car accident 14 years go, was fired after a random drug test came back positive.Mr. Coats’s doctors had recommended medical marijuana to control his involuntary muscle spasms and seizures after prescription drugs were no longer effective for him. A few puffs before bed allows him to work comfortably the next day, said his lawyer, Michael Evans.Mr. Evans said that Mr. Coats — who, he said, had consistently received good performance reviews — was terminated for conduct that was legal and outside of work.In an e-mail, Francie Bauer, the company’s corporate communications manager, said: “Dish Network does not comment on the specifics of employee matters. As a national company with more than 21,000 employees, Dish Network is committed to its drug-free workplace policy and compliance with federal law, which does not permit the use of marijuana, even for medicinal purposes.”The issue has not worked its way through the Colorado courts.Some companies have begun to recognize marijuana as a legitimate therapy. Jian Software, based in Chico, Calif., recently consulted with the National Organization of Marijuana Reform Laws, or Norml, in an effort to institute a drug policy that accounts for the medicinal use of marijuana.This is necessary, said R. Keith Stroup, legal counsel for Norml, because the courts have not yet held that medical marijuana users enjoy “a legally enforceable, fundamental right” to smoke.“Employers in states that have legalized the medical use of marijuana under state law unfortunately remain free to fire employees who test positive for THC,” Mr. Stroup said in an e-mail. “It is terribly unfair to these patients, but at this time it is not illegal.”A version of this article appeared in print on August 29, 2010, on page A13 of the National edition.Source: New York Times (NY)Author: Jennifer MasciaPublished: August 28, 2010Copyright: 2010 The New York Times CompanyContact: letters nytimes.comWebsite: http://www.nytimes.com/URL: http://drugsense.org/url/ctpiojFTCannabisNews Medical Marijuana Archiveshttp://cannabisnews.com/news/list/medical.shtml
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Comment #43 posted by runruff on September 01, 2010 at 07:21:28 PT
Until they learn our newest methods?
We have taught the cops everything they know, not visa versa.
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Comment #42 posted by Paint with light on August 31, 2010 at 21:28:55 PT
Hope
I don't blame you for wanting to be extra careful. I have always had to do the same because of where my house is located.A friend of mine that is on the other side of the drug issue told me that he has shown clerks at various shipping places how he can bend the law if he wants somebody bad enough.If a package is suspect for any reason they will apply pressure and bang the package around to see if they can dislodge or bypass some of theprecautions people take when they ship.Supposedly any thing that might happen to a package in transit can be duplicated. In other words they can crush it if they want to.They can't however saw it in half.One reason the guy is still a friend is he also taught me the wonders of vacuum packing and having a clean area where the final stage of packing is done and where there is little chance that stray molecules can be added to the outside of a package....such as somebody breaking down a bud with their hands and then tearing off a piece of tape and therefore leaving lots of active molecules where they can reach out to the nearest drug dog.Final step is a chemical or solvent wash down and you are good to go.Except for the worry.Hope, I understand you don't want the added stress and true to your goodness you are more worried about your friends than yourself.You do have a lot of good friends pulling for you.Legal like friends.
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Comment #41 posted by FoM on August 31, 2010 at 16:44:26 PT
Hope
I know. I wish Texas would see how the laws are changing and do the same. We are one big country and we shouldn't be that terribly different then each other as far as social changes go. Gay rights have made progress and we are too.
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Comment #40 posted by Hope on August 31, 2010 at 16:34:33 PT
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Yeah!Duh!You live in a State where the risk is considerably reduced from what it is in the State I make my home in.
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Comment #39 posted by FoM on August 31, 2010 at 13:55:13 PT
Hope
I guess I see how much progress we are making and I am not worried much anymore.
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Comment #38 posted by Hope on August 31, 2010 at 13:52:05 PT
Horrified at the behavior of our "Authorities"
That's why I'm here in the first place.I was horrified at what was happening to others. It didn't have to happen to me or mine for me to be horrified at it.But I know I would be horrified if it happened to me or mine.
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Comment #37 posted by Hope on August 31, 2010 at 13:49:36 PT
But I do....
"We shouldn't fear the powers that be."I'm not totally flicking. I don't think I am, anyway.But I'm wary.
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Comment #36 posted by FoM on August 31, 2010 at 12:48:00 PT
Hope
I always think about this. Jesus was a rebel. He didn't do what he was suppose to do. We shouldn't fear the powers that be.
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Comment #35 posted by FoM on August 31, 2010 at 12:45:54 PT
herbdoc215
Thank you. I appreciate your thoughts and prayers. They x-rayed her and it is in her stomach, liver and pancreas so it is only a matter of time the doctor said. My oldest nephew is flying up from Florida this weekend and we are going to see her.
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Comment #34 posted by herbdoc215 on August 31, 2010 at 12:32:25 PT
FoM, I'll add your neice to my prayers
and offers as well...this cancer scourge has struck about all families these days it seems as our modern lifestyles are killing us and big companies are doing all they can to hide that fact and profit off of it should be criminal instead of helping those in need. If I can help her as well with any products don't hesitate to ask as like has been said earlier in this thread...some of us out here have our ways ;) Many times I have seen with my own eyes cannabis be the only thing that allows many patients to cope and finish a course of chemo or worse treatments which to me is just as important as the treatments themselves! It won't be long and I will have us a place to go to be given these treatments in a healing and sane atmosphere and I don't care if it hare-lips the pope. peace, steve
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Comment #33 posted by Hope on August 31, 2010 at 11:51:05 PT
And me...
I'm scared for me, too!It would hurt so bad to get in a lot of trouble. The kind of trouble where they force you to the floor. Scream at you. Possibly kill your pets. Touch and feel around on you. Go through your personal possessions and papers. Manhandle you. Tie your hands behind your back. Drag you away. Lock you in a "cell"... a cage for humans. Steal your money, possessions, and days and days of your life from you. Maybe even your whole life. They've done it plenty of times.Nah. Whewww. Please. I can't handle even the thought of it.
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Comment #32 posted by Hope on August 31, 2010 at 10:53:29 PT
Oh Lord!
Swat teams! Screaming. Shooting. Arresting. Just the thought makes me start swaying a bit where I sit.And there come the real tears again!I'd rather die than have that happen to any of us.And it would be "Again" for some of us.No. I love you guys.
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Comment #31 posted by Hope on August 31, 2010 at 10:48:02 PT
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Runruff. I know you would. I love you for it. I love you anyway.But I will not endanger you in any way.
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Comment #30 posted by Hope on August 31, 2010 at 10:46:29 PT
My eyes leak a pretty constant stream of tears...
an allergic reaction to one, or more, of the chemicals they are treating me with. But real tears, for this country, for all of us, are mingled with those chemically induced, irritated, watery eyes, tears when I read:"Now that we have a cure, after countless thousands have suffered and died (and made the 'medical community' a LOT of money) withholding that cure FOR ANY REASON is insidious and cruel. The upholding of idiocy for the sake of the powerful few is getting very tiresome, irksome, insulting, degrading, immoral, unethical, and as far as I am concerned, more illegal than pot -as far as that fading document known as the Constitution- goes. But when your society and government place values on arbitrary nonsense, above actual proven fact -like the medicinal efficacy of cannabis- and they enforce those idiocies with armed thugs and barbarisms -like imprisonment, and not allowing folks like you to have access to the benign properties of cannabis, but forcing us to breath in, eat and drink the industrial toxins every day -and work and labor for the 'privilege' to do it! -is more criminal than most of those who actually committed a crime against persons."
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Comment #29 posted by runruff on August 31, 2010 at 10:42:02 PT
Hope
Send me an address. You have my e-mail, I'll send you all the finest green medicine you will need for free by UPS or FEDEX. We here and eveywhere for that matter send herbs all over the world. Ve Hav our veys he he he!
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Comment #28 posted by Hope on August 31, 2010 at 10:32:13 PT
Prayers... I so appreciate them, Museman.
And you're not rubbing salt in any wounds, Museman. I know I'm missing a lot and have missed a lot as far as the healing benefits and protective benefits of the wonderful herb.I often think how nice it would be to make some of Runruff's medicinal capsules. Can't though. I might stink stuff up and draw cops... instead of flies. Lol! I might survive a fly bite... but one of those cop bites might put me over the edge. Emotions always can hurt or help... and right now... the bad ones, the painful ones, can be positively dangerous, I've found.And to enjoy the best of the healing benefits... naturally it would take cooking and preparation and a felonious amount to do anything like that with. I'm content, though. Knowing that I'm doing what little I can to change the way things are. That last post I made was a little shakey... I'd meant to say that I'd fallen... completely... twice. Once outside and once inside. I think I'm through with the stuff that makes me likely to fall, though. My husband ordered me a cool walking stick from Africa. Before he ordered that I only had my hiking staff that he'd made me years ago. It worked fine, but using it indoors made me look like some sort of prophet coming 'in from the wilderness'. If that stuff about "When were you in prison, Lord, and I didn't visit you?" is really going to happen, I expect there will also be a "When did you need medicine, Lord, and I refused to let you have it?", that will happen, too.If all that turns out to be true... then Prohibitionists are in a hell of a mess.
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Comment #27 posted by FoM on August 31, 2010 at 10:11:40 PT
Just a Note
Unfortunately my niece is now in Hospice but she told me cannabis was the only substance she used that made her feel better.
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Comment #23 posted by museman on August 31, 2010 at 10:00:37 PT
Hope
Not to 'rub salt in a wound' but cannabis is one of the best blood thinners around, better than aspirin, because it doesn't eat your stomach lining like aspirin.But I am sad to hear the details of your suffering. Cancer is our collective karma for toxifying our environment in the pursuit of incorrect 'progress.' Before they decided to change the name to something a bit more undefined and mysterious, they (the 'doctors') called it 'Industrial Disease.' Had it right the first time.Now that we have a cure, after countless thousands have suffered and died (and made the 'medical community' a LOT of money) withholding that cure FOR ANY REASON is insidious and cruel. The upholding of idiocy for the sake of the powerful few is getting very tiresome, irksome, insulting, degrading, immoral, unethical, and as far as I am concerned, more illegal than pot -as far as that fading document known as the Constitution- goes. But when your society and government place values on arbitrary nonsense, above actual proven fact -like the medicinal efficacy of cannabis- and they enforce those idiocies with armed thugs and barbarisms -like imprisonment, and not allowing folks like you to have access to the benign properties of cannabis, but forcing us to breath in, eat and drink the industrial toxins every day -and work and labor for the 'privilege' to do it! -is more criminal than most of those who actually committed a crime against persons.I know. You know.Oregon is where I will die. She called to me, every time I left, and welcomed me back every time I returned. 5 of my children decided to be born here, and even though there is a distinctly 'old school white-man red-neck' (republican, GOB, etc.) element that, like everywhere else in this country, goes out of their way to inject their broken, alcoholic brain-dead delusions forcibly into our lives, Oregon -and I've been in about 30 states, lived in 10 of them- is simply the best.Of course, if you plan on visiting our forests and wonders, bring lots of money, because the word 'free' has definitely been replaced with 'fee.' -but that's not Oregon IT'S THE F-ING FED!Ever read Ecotopia? I highly recommend it. The State of Jefferson is more real than it ever was.Rest, find somebody to share some herb with you. Many of us are praying.Legalize Freedom
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Comment #22 posted by Hope on August 30, 2010 at 20:06:28 PT
Museman
About that chemo wracking my body business. It's already pretty much done that. My hair is gone. (My lovely antennae). I had a dangerous drop in the vitamin D in my system. And my nail beds are starting to darken. They look bruised. And the blood clots that I have to deal with now, of course. That came from the port thing for the chemotherapy transfusions... and the fact that people with cancer are three, or seven, or something times more likely to have blood clots. Apparently just having cancer can cause one's blood to thicken. So naturally, I have to have blood thinners now. Which, as many of you know, the common treatment for is Coumadin/Warfarin. Warfarin was rat poison before it was medicine. It's still rat poison... but it's medicine to.I'm pretty wracked. I've completely, outright fallen... completely to the ground, once and once to the floor. Nearly fallen other times. My ankles and knees just give way or I lost my balance, or something. If I stand still a bit too long... I seem to start tilting to one side and if I turn quickly I nearly fall. Not always, but sometimes. I use a walking stick sometimes.It's not as bad as it could be and not as bad as I thought it would be. I didn't have a clue what it would be like, really... but I knew I had already had some very bad reactions to medicines already in my life, and I was scared the chemotherapy drugs might be unbearable.It's bearable, I guess. So far. I'm still alive. Something people say about chemotherapy... they usually look down when they say it, "It's doable".Aaargh. But anyway... I still have a long way to go so I won't be showing up out there for awhile.Even if it's not for medicinal cannabis help... I'd like to come out there someday to visit. I was born in Oregon. I've always wanted to go back and see it. I was born in Baker City, back when it was still just Baker.
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Comment #21 posted by Hope on August 30, 2010 at 11:08:21 PT
Thank you, Museman
I appreciate very much what you're saying and if this doesn't work, and the docs say it is working..., but, God forbid, if it doesn't, I'll be out there and I know there will be true saints of mercy, like yourself, to meet me and help me.Obviously, I chose a rough, harsh road to seek help. But I will walk it to the end. Then I'll choose another road if this one doesn't get me where I want to be.And that other road, of course, seems to be at it's strongest and finest out there, up and down the West Coast. I'm so thankful that, by the amazing technology of the internet and our joining together in a struggle to correct a grave injustice, I actually have people I consider trusted and dear friends in California and Oregon... and that just happen to know very much about the cannabis cure road I will set me feet to if that time comes.
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Comment #20 posted by museman on August 30, 2010 at 09:28:29 PT
Hope
Don't wait until the chemo wracks your body. Visit us out west.I will say one thing Hope; many years ago I went into training as a healer (not a 'doctor'). I learned the roots of acupressure and acupuncture in a discipline known as 'Jin-Shin-Juitzu'. I practiced as a healer in a place called Lums Lighthouse until I realized what was really going on in the healing process.What was/is really going on in the healing process is about 10% treatment -which can range from 'hands on' techniques, to various herbs and medicines, and about 90% Faith and Belief -on the part of the patient- in the healer and their technique.Doctors have long capitalized on this fact, and acted as if there was some kind of exclusive service they were performing, when in fact the only service they provide is a focus of the already present healing faculties within everyone.A good healer communicates this fact to their patient in some way, which helps the patient get in touch with their own internal healer.Though surgeons have been quite useful in saving lives, they also attempt to ply their skills a solution to way too many medical issues that can be treated much less radically. Unfortunately, like in so many other endeavors, greed has contaminated the ranks of would be healers, and turned them into 'doctors.'But my point, dear Hope, is that the most important thing you can do at this point is to purge doubt from you mind and believe in your own healing capacity, and since you have chosen western medicine as your focus, you must believe in it as well, and fortunately there has been success with these treatments (somewhat) so there is hope, and if there is hope, there is something to believe in.But if it isn't working, choose the obvious alternative. This is your life Hope, the only one you get as this person you are, the only one we know, so fight against the status quo if it gets in your way, don't let it bury you because just a few states away -a few days drive- the benign solutions await.Luv Ya.
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Comment #19 posted by Hope on August 29, 2010 at 17:06:23 PT
Herbdoc, Thank you, old friend.
Hopefully all that they are doing to me will cure me. But when it's all said and done... and if they can't. I'll be calling you.Sam Adams. Artificial THC, obviously, helps people... but I have a bad feeling about even mentioning it the oncologist. I pay attention to my intuition sometimes, and when I don't, I usually regret it.The road, I'm on is mainstream medicine chemo therapy. I intend to do what they say and give them every chance. I think, I wouldn't swear to it... that that "positive" in that breast cancer therapy study you referred me to, has to do with the cancer being hormone positive. I'm very lucky that mine is hormone negative. It was a test result that they waited anxiously for. It's one of the advantages I have in fighting this as an older woman. Younger people are more likely to have hormone positive tumors that somehow feed on their hormones and are very much harder to bring into remission or kill. They happen to older people, but I was lucky mine wasn't hormone positive... just like I was lucky it wasn't in my lymph nodes, which would have made me stage four instead of stage three.Those cancer treatment centers for people that are stage four or nothing else has worked...or if they want to do the cannabis treatment at the same time as the traditional stuff... or just the cannabis treatment instead.When I think about how much gentler cannabis therapy would be... I just feel so sad. Think of those tests we've read about where just the tumor is injected. I don't understand why they don't inject something directly into the tumor in the mainstream treatments. And cannabis wouldn't destroy so many... or any... healthy normal cells... like what happens with chemo therapy. My hair wouldn't have left the premises. My immunity to other illnesses and infections wouldn't be compromised like it is.I've been really lucky though. No ulcers. No mouth sores. I have lost my hair and my skin is weird and my eyes burn and are watery and weemy. Tears flow like I'm weeping... it's just something from chemo.I did have lots of company today after all. Just not my brother and his family.Lots of air hugs and kisses and visiting... which is so much better than no hugs and kisses and visiting.It sure would be wonderful for those in need if you got some of those centers going out there, Herbdoc. You are a good and very smart man. I see you as the George Washington Carver of Cannabis. Your work is so important and you've worked so hard and fought this Prohibition so hard. Thank you, again. You're one of my heroes. No doubt about it.
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Comment #18 posted by FoM on August 29, 2010 at 13:15:23 PT
Herbdoc215
Steve, I think you're the best. Thank you for all you do.
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Comment #17 posted by herbdoc215 on August 29, 2010 at 12:37:24 PT
Hope, your welcome at my house ANYTIME!
I can supply all the cannabis your body can absorb, and have several new methods for applying it as well...and would be proud to help you! I've been trying for last 6 months night and day to set up the very research/healing center your speaking off but all the business people just want to fund is fast turn-over projects that seem very risky to me...I have plenty of commitment to fund but can't seem to ever get the deal structured as the gov't keeps changing the rules faster than we can adapt? It will be my greatest pleasure to be able to expand this offer to our disabled vets and all cancer patients.
If you get to the point of needing me all you have to do is email me, there is an airport within 15 miles of my house I can pick y'all up :) I'm praying for you and would do whatever it took to relieve your suffering...even if we have to get creative. You take care and hang in there, and know that you have many lives you have touched and it really pisses me off that your having to suffer because of federal ignorance and the evil of unrestrained capitalism. Peace and love, Steve Tuck
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Comment #16 posted by FoM on August 29, 2010 at 12:00:17 PT
Hope
I believe until the Federal Law is change research won't reach it's fullest potential. I don't know why we aren't seeing more of a direction towards changing the Federal Law. That would cover the states that are hard on marijuana too.
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Comment #15 posted by Hope on August 29, 2010 at 11:45:05 PT
California, Oregon, Washington
Cannabis treatment for cancer centers.Why don't we hear about places like that in places where it's legal medicinally?No doctors... no nurses would work for a place like that?
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Comment #14 posted by Hope on August 29, 2010 at 11:16:23 PT
Sigh...
just had to cancel my brother visiting me today. Their grandbaby... that they have with them has fever.And my own little darling... that I kept so she wouldn't ever have to be in daycare was never sick... not in the slightest, not for one day or night, for the first six months of her life... had to go to daycare when I started on this busy, busy road of fighting cancer and all that it entails, and she's been sick ever since... and every one around her has caught every thing she caught there in that apparently filthy, poorly managed, germ ridden place. I haven't hugged her or held her since I was in the hospital. She had a slight respite from sickness then. She coughs every night. I saw her on my birthday a couple of weeks ago but I couldn't hold her or kiss her sweet cheeks. It was too big a risk. It still is. The doctors have tried everything... including a nebulizer... but she still has a cough and is still dangerous for me in my weakened immune system state.So much sickness going around, especially for babies in daycare... and it spreads to everyone... and it could hospitalize me... so... I haven't had much but air kisses and hugs for a long time now...Now I'm getting perilously close to feeling sorry for myself... mustn't do that.
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Comment #13 posted by Sam Adams on August 29, 2010 at 11:02:12 PT
hope
Good to hear from you, I hope you are doing OK with all the treatments. I think FOM may have a good suggestion re: Marinol. Check out this recent study, it would seem that pure THC is good for at least one type of breast cancer. Showing this to your doctor should help with getting the Marinol prescription:http://www.molecular-cancer.com/content/9/1/196
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Comment #12 posted by Hope on August 29, 2010 at 10:59:02 PT
It's not just Texas
Texas is just where I call home.It's bad in other states too. Oklahoma may be worse, for one.Texas is just where I live.
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Comment #11 posted by Hope on August 29, 2010 at 10:57:13 PT
I'll go to California or Oregon
and try a cannabis cure... if they can't cure me here.I know... with the Phoenix Tears and the kind of diet and regimen the guy in the article is talking about... they're talking felonious, in Texas, amounts of cannabis to do the job.Even when I've used it... I go out of my way to avoid felonious amounts.:0)I don't ever want to be handcuffed or put in a cage or humiliated by the enemy.
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Comment #10 posted by FoM on August 29, 2010 at 10:55:43 PT
Hope
I don't understand why it seems so hard in Texas. I really don't.
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Comment #9 posted by Hope on August 29, 2010 at 10:54:20 PT
nope don't want it
they'd get all freaky if i asked for itthings are freaky enough anyway
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Comment #8 posted by FoM on August 29, 2010 at 10:34:29 PT
Hope
You could get a Prescription for Marinol. I do think it would be helpful.
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Comment #7 posted by Hope on August 29, 2010 at 10:11:30 PT
If this chemo doesn't kill me or cure me...
and I pray it's curing me of the cancer. But if it doesn't, and I still have it after all they do to me... I may come a knocking on Runruff's, or Steven Tuck's, or Alan Erickson's door and ask for them to let me 'leave my sleeping bag rolled up and stashed behind their couch' for a while... and let them treat me... with love and mercy and cannabis.I might.You guys better hope they cure me.:0)
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Comment #6 posted by Hope on August 29, 2010 at 10:05:14 PT
And Texas... my Texas...
She'd shoot marijuana out of the ground for me, if she could. But she can't. Texas Prohibitionists won't allow it. Because they're so "good"...they're the "good guys"... you know. They're too "good" and "righteous" to let cannabis come forth from the earth of Texas.So I can't make full use of the cancer fighting attributes of the plant, great or small... because the "good" Prohibitionists said so.
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Comment #5 posted by Hope on August 29, 2010 at 09:21:13 PT
and yes
I realize.There's always the possibility that they... the false Christians... the Prohibitionists... my enemies... may kill me, like so many others they've killed.They may already have.
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Comment #4 posted by Hope on August 29, 2010 at 09:11:16 PT
I pray that they would come to their senses
and show mercy and love. So that that they maybe can get some of that love and mercy themselves, when they need it.They think they won't ever need it... because they're proud and arrogant..... but' I'd bet, if I were a betting person, that they will. Someday.
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Comment #3 posted by Hope on August 29, 2010 at 09:06:02 PT
Furious
Is what I naturally feel when I think about what cannabis prohibitionists have done to so many... maybe me, too... for so long now. Well, obviously, me, too. The sheer idiocy of it all. We all knew, from the beginning that cannabis prohibition was a horror and sheer idiocy... but learn every day that it is and was even more idiotic than we'd ever even been able to imagine or realize.I can't help but wonder if I'd been able to consume cannabis all that I wanted to... might I have never even developed full blown cancer. If I hadn't refrained for years and years at a time because of prohibition or because it was politically or socially expedient because of prohibitionists having so much wicked, wicked and poorly used legal power over the rest of us, would I not be in the middle of all this pain and misery. I feel something bitter towards them... like hatred.But I have to reject that and remember myself and who I am and what I believe and what I'm about. Not because I want to be Miss Goody Two Shoes. But because I want to really follow Christ. Not just give lip service to the idea. It's top notch important to me. I've said I was a follower of Christ Jesus... and I meant it. It really is important to me... not some fake thing or club I decided to join because it seemed expedient at the time.I tell you one thing... I'm not going to be one of those Talibanish Christians we have all over the place. They are a disgrace to the name of Christ and his gospel of love and peace and forgiveness and mercy. The pretend Christians want to fight. They want to hurt to hurt people because of their their wicked and false beliefs. They ignore, ""Vengeance is mine" says the Lord". What the heck do they think that means? They don't give a damn what their "Christ" said or taught. They really don't. They don't give a damn. They want to hurt people in the name of their self and even dare to drag Christ into it. No. I can't do that... because I really do believe in him and I do believe that man and what he gave is life to try and teach us and do for us, that most of us know as Jesus.... is the Christ.I know what he would do. I could deny it... as seems the popular way among many who style themselves "Christians"... of some kind. But they're not. They're liars. They aren't about Christ. They are only about them and they're pitiful flesh. They know nothing of Christ and what they do know... they reject outright.Every body that knows how to read or listen knows what Christ would do. Even, most of, if not all, the so called, self styled, fake Christians know it. (Yeah...the ones he would say, "I never knew you." to.)I pull up. I rein in. My pony may be snorting and stomping in circles as I hold it in control, but I know what that man, that being, that Holy Spirit that I love would do and say."Forgive them. They know not what they do."My natural self wants to come out like some sort of amazonian Samson and start knocking them aside with some handy dandy variant of a "jawbone of an ass". Bloody, stupid bastards is what I naturally think.But if I'm a true believer... I pray for them... my enemies.Yes... they're nothing more than "money changers" in the "Temple"... but it's Christ who will turn over their tables and drive them out. I think it's important to him to let him do that and for me not to think he's a weakling and needs my help to turn over their tables and drive them out. He's not weak. That's where I'm supposed to pray for them. Ask mercy for the... because truly... the vengeance that can come on the stupid and cruel out of nowhere is a terrible thing indeed... and we have to pray that they too will know mercy and not be utterly destroyed. Life is cruel enough and hard enough in itself.... but to be without peace, mercy, and any vestige of love in the midst of it all... that would be infinitely worse... for me. I may not like it, but I do it. And yes... I search for true sincerity in myself... and I try to take my stand there in that true sincerity.
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Comment #2 posted by FoM on August 28, 2010 at 20:24:51 PT
Medical Pot Shows Promise in Cancer Cases
People's Pharmacy: Medical Pot Shows Promise in Cancer Cases***A reader asks whether cannabinoids can fight pancreatic tumor cells.By Joe Graedon and Teresa Graedon, Ph.D., Syndicated ColumnistsAugust 28, 2010Q: I would like you to know about medical marijuana for cancer. In her late 30s, my wife was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer, stage 4a. It was a 6-centimeter tumor that had grown around the hepatic artery and portal vein.At first I thought marijuana was just for nausea caused by her chemo, but then I found a study in the journal Cancer Research (July 1, 2006). It showed that cannabinoids specifically fight pancreatic tumor cells.I changed her diet and started her on a regimen, and she is now cancer-free. The regimen is being studied at the University of Wisconsin.A: For years, marijuana research was suspected of being a way to rationalize people getting high. But as a recent article in Science News points out, scientists are now starting to take it seriously (June 19). The article you cite demonstrates that compounds from marijuana make pancreatic- tumor cells commit suicide.Other cancer researchers have followed up with studies on its effectiveness against a range of tumors in test tubes, including breast, colon, glioblastoma brain tumors and lymphoma, a blood cancer. None is yet in a clinical trial, but this will be an interesting field to watch. We are delighted your wife had such a good response to such a difficult-to-treat cancer.Complete Article: http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/health/2012722658_pharmacy29.html
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Comment #1 posted by Sam Adams on August 28, 2010 at 09:57:15 PT
Pure BS
"Steve Holmes, a Home Depot spokesman, said the company followed federal guidelines for its drug policy. Employees are allowed to take a leave if they choose to use marijuana to combat the side effects of treatment for a serious ailment. When they return, however, the THC must be out of their systems."I believe that to determine if someone as THC in their system you'd have to do a blood test.Urine tests look for metabolites of cannabinoids, not the cannabinoid molecules themselves, like THC.Home Depot and Walmart will always be conservative and hew to the Republican party line. Firing people for urine tests exerts downward pressure on wages, which all large employers want.Everyone that uses cannabis should never shop at big-box stores that drug test. It's that simple.I hope that no one reading this is still shopping at Home Depot or Walmart!!!! Try the local stores where you look the owner in the eye. That's what I do.
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