New Jersey's First Legally Grown Marijuana 
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New Jersey's First Legally Grown Marijuana 
Posted by CN Staff on March 27, 2010 at 20:13:54 PT
By Susan K. Livio, Statehouse Bureau
Source: Star-Ledger 
Trenton, NJ --  If all goes according to plan, New Jersey’s first legally grown marijuana plants will be harvested this fall from greenhouses, where they will have been growing for months under the gaze of cameras and security guards. The plants will be dried, packaged and readied for purchase at six licensed facilities by thousands of registered patients who have debilitating illnesses.
The product will not be called Garden State Red or Jersey Gold or anything like that. But when that first joint is lit, New Jersey officially will have ventured where none of the other 13 states that legalized marijuana consumption for medicinal purposes has gone before: taking the lead role in the pot manufacturing and distribution business.Queasy over the idea of filling the Garden State with scores of backyard pot plants, lawmakers in January passed the most restrictive medical marijuana statute in the nation by banning patients, their families and other caregivers from growing their own. But for state officials who must implement the law, this tough stance raises questions so complicated they wonder if they’ll be able to meet this fall’s deadline.Consider:• In the next six months, state health officials must decide who should be permitted to grow the drug and where, how it should be tested for potency and safety, and in which communities it will be sold. The health department has informally approached Rutgers University’s School of Environmental and Biological Sciences to play an unspecified role, but no discussions have taken place.• Officials will have to devise a system to screen the hundreds of aspiring marijuana entrepreneurs who have called looking to break into an industry that has been thriving in other states.• And they will have to make sure they don’t run afoul of the federal and state laws that still recognize marijuana possession and distribution as crimes.Advocates say at least 5,000 New Jerseyans with debilitating diseases are waiting for the state to implement the new law. One group predicts that number will eventually top 30,000. Snipped   Complete Article: Star-Ledger (Newark, NJ)Author:  Susan K. Livio, Statehouse BureauPublished: March 27, 2010Copyright: 2010 Newark Morning Ledger Co.Contact: eletters starledger.comWebsite: Medical Marijuana Archives 
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Comment #17 posted by Hope on March 29, 2010 at 21:00:26 PT
We do get along pretty well...
considering we all came through the door blistering mad at what the prohibition of cannabis has done to so many people... to society... civilization itself.We're all mad and angry. There's damned good reason to be. But most of us realized a long time ago it does us, and what we are raising heaven and hell about, no good whatsoever for us to devour each other. And it so pleases those who don't want drug policy changed to see us do that.
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Comment #16 posted by Paint with light on March 29, 2010 at 20:19:01 PT
BGreen comment #7
I hope I did not overreact with my reply.It sounds like I may have.I have always enjoyed your posts and wisdom and even though we do not share the same spiritual path I applaud you for yours.To try to believe in good and to try to do good is all that we can ask of anyone.I also felt a little defensive for Storm crow.I am sure if we had been talking in person I could have sensed where you were coming from and I could have let you vent to me.The experience you had can be life changing.I have found that sometimes(not always) I can intensely project my anger and all the negative feelings I have towards somebody. I indulge in a spirit cleansing by sending all the negative energy I can muster towards my target of anger. Then often I can say "Okay, I have done all I can do for now it is time to move on"It has worked for me more times than not.Sometimes it is difficult to erase the mental tapes or change the mental channel.Peace will come in time.You have too good a spirit for it not to.Peace and positive energy to you.Legal like alcohol.
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Comment #15 posted by Hope on March 29, 2010 at 19:33:10 PT
and... if you don't find a descendant of Levi
to do the killing for you... you'll have to do it yourself.Those guys must have been some danged good wranglers, too... because I know all those young bulls didn't just walk up and lay down for all that sacrificing business all that easily.Of course. The poor man, like many of us might have been, could buy some doves or chickens or something from a seller and offer that. Somebody still had to kill them though.
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Comment #14 posted by Hope on March 29, 2010 at 19:18:34 PT
You don't want to be living that Old Testament religion either.You aren't a sanctified man in the Old Testament and you can't really do enough to be a sanctified man... not for long anyway... not until your next "sin" is committed and you go and deal with it at the Temple, again. The Old Testament was a history, a genealogy, a promise, and a prophecy. As an Old Testament believer, when you do fall short or doing something wrong... sin... you have to go out and find yourself an altar, of a perfect stone... somewhere... which according to the New Testament, doesn't even exist anymore because all "perfect" rocks, which were required for making an altar to Jehovah, were all "rent asunder" in a cataclysmic event, world wide, graves opened and corpses rose out of the ground, at the exact moment Jesus's body gave up the ghost that day, at the same time the curtain that separated the Holiest of Holies from the rest of the Temple in Jerusalem was ripped in two, by unseen hands, from top to bottom, (not from bottom to top), and you have to gather wood, and you have to kill something and burn it up. You probably have to find yourself someone who is a descendant of Levi to help with this act of grief, remorse, and promise to do better. Even with a butane lighter, I bet you, like most modern people, have a bit of trouble getting a fire started most of the time, anyway, much less a pile of wood with a bloody, freshly dead, perfect animal laying, bleeding wet blood, on top of it.
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Comment #13 posted by Hope on March 29, 2010 at 18:19:24 PT
I don't want to be one of those
whose "feet are quick to shed blood".
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Comment #12 posted by Hope on March 29, 2010 at 17:38:43 PT
You are a very big man, in the spiritual realm...
No doubt.I fight hatred. Really. It flares in me. Suddenly and hatefully. It wants to slap someone upside the head... or worse. It hits so suddenly and it's a hot, unpleasant, ungentle, unloving emotion. I do have to fight it. I hate it.Keeping up with what's going on in this world of prohibition causes many flares. Many. More than I would have if I didn't keep up with this problem.Like the flare of hatred I felt reading another article. So many rules, restrictions, strictness, "counseling"... aaargggh. We have a saying about people like that. I won't say it. It's about them having a corn cob someplace it shouldn't be, though.
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Comment #11 posted by BGreen on March 29, 2010 at 15:54:52 PT
I agree, Hope, with caveats
I know that most people here get it. That's why we're here.My anger goes out to the ignorant, who blindly support this terrorism without question.I found out my parents contribute to some law enforcement anti-drug fund, thereby directly contributing to the two bouts of terror perpetrated upon their own child.It's just been a week since this happened. We're supposed to turn the other cheek but even Jesus put a limit on the number of times. After that it's self defense and survival of the fittest. Right now I feel I've passed my limit. Next week may be different.That's why any reciprocity for the actions against me will exist solely in the spiritual realm. I am such a non-violent person that I just get crapped on a lot by bullies. Ever since I was in grade school I've been beaten up and harassed by bullies. Jeff Poteet is just another bully in my lifetime who craps on little Bud Green just because he won't fight back and just cries because of the pain.It's amazing how similar my life has been compared to a certain grandmother from Texas. :)Thanks for sharing your experiences with us.Brother Bud
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Comment #10 posted by Hope on March 29, 2010 at 15:14:22 PT
nurturing hatred against them as individuals
I couldn't if I wanted to in the first incident I mentioned, since it was night and they kept a spotlight in my face. I didn't see their faces clearly, but I saw their drawn guns and I heard them scream at me about shooting me if I didn't stop advancing slowly on them with my drivers license extended, to go out in a weed, snake, and chigger infested road ditch. Screaming like terrified people. I'm really lucky they didn't shoot me that night or one of the kids in the car.It was a surprise when I pulled over and rolled my glass down to hear them screaming at me through a bullhorn..."Get out of the car! Get out of the car! Keep your hands away from your body! Move away from the vehicle! Move away from the car! Go out in the road ditch!" No way! It was a summer night and I had on sandals and a skirt. Walk out in thick weeds above my knees! No way!I was so afraid for the kids. I can still see their horrified faces looking out the glass and lit up because of the car lights and the spotlight they had.It really is a wonder they didn't shoot me. I kept inching towards them with my driver's licence extended. Finally one of them was brave enough to allow himself break life or death protocol and really look at the situation and come forward a bit and take my license.Aaargh. It was awful. Seems they were after a guy that robbed a convenience store somewhere... with a knife, and reportedly had a car like mine. I never heard any news of any such robbery.The car/dog thing was because I had a new car with Texas plates in Arkansas and they wanted that car and just apparently hoped, really badly, that I had "contraband".The in house incident was just stupid. But it felt very scary and insulting and like they were Nazis or something. It is scary to be threatened by someone. It's meant to be. 
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Comment #9 posted by Hope on March 29, 2010 at 14:47:19 PT
I know what it's like, too, BGreen.
I haven't been cuffed and taken to jail. But I've had them scream at me. Blind me with a spotlight. Point guns at me... with my children behind me in the car and order me to get out in the ditch. I've had them run "The dogs" around and around my car on the side of the highway... over and over again. Once during that incident, they nearly made me cry. Tears came up... but they didn't fall. I'm glad, because I was hanging tough... or trying to, about not letting them search my vehicle. They made me wait for the dogs and submit to a dog search anyway. No probable cause. And it was a search, even though they didn't get inside the car. I've had them "knock and talk" and want to search my home and they threatened, and I mean threatened, if they had had to get a warrant, which my husband demanded, they'd bring dogs and "tear up the house worse".... because they'd "heard I had a big bag of marijuana". I'd already let them in the house, because I didn't know what they were up to. I expected it had something to do with the evening before when I'd called them because I thought I had a prowler.I did have a big bag of broccoli. Seems the officer that came to my house on a prowler call the night before had seen that bag of broccoli, I had been cleaning the refrigerator, and the butt of a hand rolled cigarette in an ashtray and just put two and fourteen together and come to a wrong conclusion.Anger. Dismay. Indignation. Disgust. Dislike. Fear. I felt all those things. But nurturing hatred against them as individuals would just be letting them make me sicker and uglier than I already am.I do feel great grief about the things they have done to you, Runruff, other commenters here, even Robin, and lots, and lots of other people, too. It matters plenty to me, as you should know.Forgiveness? I don't know that I've forgiven anything. It's the system... and I sure haven't forgiven the system and intend to fight against the injustice of it until it's changed or drastically improved.That vile feeling of wanting to see someone suffer, I can't nurture that thing. It hurts me. It hurts my bones and it will make me bitter. I know it can consume me, and it can make us do things that we didn't want to do, like lash out at someone else.But I understand when someone just doesn't give a damn about any of that and just wants to seethe and feel the seethe because of really wanting to hurt someone or see them hurt. I do understand. I'd just rather you didn't let them do that to you.
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Comment #8 posted by FoM on March 29, 2010 at 04:25:50 PT
Just a Comment
Many of us here are strong in our faith. I can always recall how Jesus was. He was the ultimate free thinker and rebel. 
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Comment #7 posted by BGreen on March 29, 2010 at 00:44:57 PT
I'm not mad at you, Paint With Light
I'm just mad. I used your post as a springboard to lash out at those who don't get it. I know you and Storm Crow get it.I'm sure I'll heal, but the wound is still bleeding.I'm sorry for the misunderstanding.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #6 posted by Paint with light on March 28, 2010 at 23:50:57 PT
Don't Judge
A person shouldn't think for a minute that they are the only one who has stared into the eyes of the beast, or that the fact they have gives them right to judge how someone else deals with it.I've been arrested more than once for my cannabis beliefs.I've been persecuted since 1970 for exercising my freedom of thought and religion.Christians can be some of the most hateful people I have met.As for religion.......after decades of researching religions, their origins, bibles, history, and science, I became a freethinker.My favorite bible is located here....... anyone else finds peace, in whatever form of religion they choose, is fine with me.I don't tell anyone else how they should believe.Nor will I allow anyone to tell me what is truth.I will exercise my humor how and when I wish.I hope those that deal with infectious hatred inside their soul can eventually find peace.I have.If I wasn't laughing, I'd be crying.Legal like alcohol....and religion.
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Comment #5 posted by BGreen on March 28, 2010 at 15:15:47 PT
It's funny to joke about these abused animals
Until you've stared directly into the eyes of the animal abuser while they use their dog to destroy your life.I am consumed with hatred towards these son of a bitches who did this to my wife and me and all I hear is "be the better person" and "just forgive."I have a real hard time doing all of that right now and, as far as runruff goes, I will never again ask him to tone down his rhetoric. He not only stared evil in the eyes, evil has stolen many years of his life and freedom.The Lord God forgives us IF AND ONLY IF WE ASK! Garvin County, their evil spawn of Satan cops, the Devil's bodyguard Jeff Poteet, the Governor of Oklahoma, NONE of these worthless ass-bites have asked for my forgiveness and it's not incumbent on me to offer anything good towards those who seek to kill and destroy me.I will offer up a good ol' Old Testament prayer for the trolls who tried to destroy my wonderful wife and I. It was commonplace in the Old Testament for people to cry out to God for the complete and utter destruction of those who perpetrate evil upon the righteous. ""Vengeance is Mine," sayeth the Lord." Our duty is just to pray.Many times in the Old Testament people prayed and the Lord God offered up the complete annihilation of every man, woman, child and animal who resided in an area inhabited with people consumed with evil. There is nothing un-spiritual or blasphemous about emulating the Bible, is there?If you look at the areas threatened every year by tornadoes and hurricanes, you'll see a direct relationship between the most affected states and their horrible record of trampling upon the rights and freedom of some of their inhabitants who dare to think for themselves. In this way I do believe the punishment of fear of imminent death by so-called "acts of God" are really purposeful acts of terror perpetrated against those like Garvin County, OK K-9 abusing terrorist Jeff Poteet, as reciprocal retribution for the ongoing campaign of terror they wage on a daily basis on God's own creations, the innocent human and the cannabis plant.I am still the man I have always been. These evil son of a bitches have not defeated me, but they've changed my patience for those who dismiss anger and rage as valid emotions to have after being completely screwed over by these evil bastards whose only intent was to completely destroy my life as I know it.It's easy to feel all "forgiving" until it happens to you.Try and think about that for awhile.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #4 posted by Paint with light on March 28, 2010 at 11:42:55 PT
Storm Crow
That would probably depend upon whether the meowing person was a male or female and whether the officer was male or female.I can imagine if I meowed at an male K9 officer it might evoke immediate execution.They have shot people for less.....and bragged about it.However if you meowed at the same officer, he might consider it a "purr"fect response.Legal like alcohol.
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Comment #3 posted by Storm Crow on March 28, 2010 at 09:40:13 PT
Paint with light
Would "meowing" at a K-9 "officer" be a misdemeanor offense, or a death penalty case? lol(sorry- just medicated!)
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Comment #2 posted by Paint with light on March 28, 2010 at 01:21:27 PT
OT Don't bark at a cop's dog
This is pure uncivilized...... man has been in jail since Jan 27 for barking at a K9 officers dog.He now faces two to twelve months more in jail.It is a felony offense to bark at a cop's dog."But he barked first was just self defense."I mean really...........this is so ridiculous.Legal like alcohol. 
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Comment #1 posted by The GCW on March 28, 2010 at 00:43:25 PT
US CO: EDITORIAL: Pot bill ignores voters' intent
US CO: EDITORIAL: Pot bill ignores voters' intent
 Webpage: 28 Mar 2010Source: Denver Post (CO)HB 1284 no longer gives local governments the ability to give voters a say over dispensaries. Legislators need to get a grip.A bill that was supposed to put some guardrails on Colorado's runaway medical marijuana train has been so watered down by recent amendments that it is a shadow of the original measure.
House Bill 1284 was flawed from the outset because it legitimizes dispensaries, which never were part of the constitutional amendment passed by voters in 2000. But after changes made last week — much to the jubilation of medical marijuana entrepreneurs — the bill no longer gives local governments the ability to ask residents whether to ban dispensaries.Even if lawmakers think dispensaries ought to exist, gutting that voter input provision ought to be a deal breaker.State lawmakers need to get a grip on this issue, stop giving in to the marijuana industry's phalanx of well-paid lobbyists and pass a bill that addresses the problems emerging as Colorado's medical marijuana scene turns into a back door for marijuana legalization.CONT.
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