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Police Department as Medical Dispensary? 
Posted by CN Staff on November 25, 2009 at 14:56:44 PT
By Steve Strachan, Special To The Times
Source: Seattle Times
Washington State -- King County Judge Mary Roberts recently ordered the Kent Police Department to become something of a medical dispensary. A man was arrested at a Kent pharmacy for possession of 11 pounds of marijuana but, in court, produced a California medical-marijuana prescription. Though he was charged with felony drug possession, he pleaded guilty to misdemeanor possession. The judge ordered the department to dispense weekly portions of the seized marijuana to the defendant. The admittedly surreal concept of our evidence technicians dispensing marijuana to a medical patient is another bizarre episode in an ongoing debate in our society.
Medical-marijuana laws in this country arise from a unique political mix of real human compassion combined with efforts to get a foot in the door toward decriminalization. The outcomes and unintended consequences of these initiatives create circumstances that would be laughable if they didn't so negatively affect our public safety and overall respect for the rule of law.California has gigantic medical-marijuana loopholes, with large cooperatives and doctor's offices set up solely to issue easily accessible prescriptions. The whole system has become a bit of a joke, and has become very similar to the speak-easies of the 1930s, with ubiquitous availability to what is supposed to be an illegal substance and very unequal enforcement.Washington state has somewhat more restrictive medical-marijuana laws, passed by the voters 10 years ago and further fine-tuned by the Legislature. It's harder to get a prescription and the law is designed to allow legal users to grow a small amount on their own or designate a single person to grow it for them.The major problem with state medical-marijuana laws is that they directly conflict with federal law, which prohibits any and all use or distribution of marijuana. So states themselves are, in effect, playing at the margins of legality and no one really wants to set a bright line where growing, distributing or using medical marijuana is legal and where it is not. President Obama recently ordered the Justice Department to reduce its prosecutions of marijuana laws through the federal system. Certain counties and prosecutors choose to ignore it or go after only the most brazen violators.State law allows for a very small amount of marijuana to be used each week. The defendant in the Kent case had more than 11 pounds. The judge ordered its return in weekly amounts distributed at the legal level. The defendant argues that this case was about the Constitution and the acceptance of interstate laws, but the reality is that the case is about cynically flouting the law and smugly making a point. Illegal grow houses and sales attract an element of crime, violence and disorder that can still exist in this "twilight zone" of marijuana use that is sort of legal, and sort of illegal.Of course we will follow the judge's court order, because the rule of law is what police departments are all about. However, the confusion and conflict created by medical-marijuana laws diminish overall respect for the rule of law.As a chief law-enforcement officer, I would encourage all of us to have a healthy and respectful debate about what place marijuana has in our society and if it should remain criminalized. That decision belongs to our elected representatives, and we will enforce laws based upon those choices. We ask only that the laws be clearly understood, supported, and we be allowed to enforce them uniformly and appropriately.Steve Strachan is chief of the Kent Police Department.Source: Seattle Times (WA)Author: Steve Strachan, Special To The TimesPublished: Wednesday, November 25, 2009 Copyright: 2009 The Seattle Times CompanyContact: opinion seatimes.comWebsite: Medical Marijuana Archives
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Comment #44 posted by paulpeterson on November 30, 2009 at 10:26:43 PT
Cops as medical dispensers-it is happening 
Just last week I reported that local Storm Lake, Iowa cops are confiscating pot-and not busting or writing up reports. Why? probably since the Iowa Supreme Court outlawed using "confiscated" weed for sting weed-Now they have to avoid any record to get the "Petty Stash".Now, I'll bet they were using a "Evidence Ponzi" scheme all along-they would "borrow" the bust weed for a sting, then replace it with newer stuff regularly. And since they must follow "fifo" accounting rules-they only way they can avoid a constitutional challenge-where a lawyer asked to see the "log book" and do an "audit", they are having an "inventory reduction sale".I also stated maybe they are donating to research-or doctors using it for medical marijuana. And then-boom-that judge in King County made it true-and just in time.Saturday's local paper even reported that one dude that got caught selling 4 ounces to a cop here-with a whole list of priors (a long "rap sheet"). And he was given PROBATION. Maybe his lawyer wanted to do an "audit" and that made them FOLD, eh? He caught them with fingers in the cookie jar, right?Oh well, thats it for today.  PAUL PETERSON 
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Comment #43 posted by FoM on November 29, 2009 at 20:05:40 PT
Thank you. It's not too early at all. Happy Holidays. I think they might move to Florida with my oldest nephew but they might stay here. I think it's an amazing story them finding each other and she is everything he ever wanted. It's precious.
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Comment #42 posted by greenmed on November 29, 2009 at 18:57:23 PT
A Wonderful Picture of Thanksgiving
Such a lovely picture of your nephew's family -- they seem so happy together. Hope they get to see their snow soon! And that wherever they choose to settle down is close enough for you and Stick to visit them often.Is it too soon to wish everyone a peaceful and reflective happy holiday season?
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Comment #41 posted by museman on November 28, 2009 at 11:08:45 PT
For Thanxgvng..
We had, Buffalo tacos, Sushi, Organic Pie and veggies, and yes the W.A.S.P. turkey.All the way up the I 5 corridor, the State Police was busting people. They were so obviously looking for pot, and profiling cars that were older, leaving the f ing rich people to speed to their hearts content. Something has to be done about these thugs.The people in this state have voted, time and time again to get the feds and their pigs out of our face, but because of 911, and current whimpy democrats in politics, the police presence has multiplied.The damage done by the previous administration is still rolling out like a big hole cut in the sewage pipeline, spilling out into the streets.The police presence is a serious situation, not being addressed, it seems people are just looking the other way.They messed up a lot of peoples happy thanksgiving.Probably because they messed their own lives up so much, its the only way they could enjoy the day.They are a scourge to liberty and freedom, a miscarry of justice, and the biggest evidence of the failure of this system, than anything else.Their doggie masters, the lawyers, judges, and politicians, are the stuff that corrupts, and are even more culpable and responsible than their dumbass cops, they all need to be removed from their ill gotten, and ill maintained power, somehow, and it will not come from playing in their system, but from outside of it.FREE CANNABIS FOREVER
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Comment #40 posted by Hope on November 28, 2009 at 11:07:36 PT
Museman, Runruff. It's amazing that you both had those experiences in such extraordinary places.Dang.I'm amazed.
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Comment #39 posted by museman on November 28, 2009 at 10:41:31 PT
runruff -pictures,...
Where I first got high.... middle section, top floor..
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Comment #38 posted by FoM on November 28, 2009 at 07:45:17 PT
Just a Link
Right now the news is non existent because of the holiday weekend so I started looking for wallpaper for my monitor. I change it when the seasons change and found this really good site with beautiful pictures. I hope everyone is enjoying the weekend. We are.
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Comment #37 posted by FoM on November 27, 2009 at 09:42:08 PT
This is Skype. I haven't used it except yesterday at my sisters. I don't know how much bandwidth it uses and I don't know about Verizon and a cap since they bought out Alltel. It really is amazing technology and it's free.
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Comment #36 posted by FoM on November 27, 2009 at 09:00:12 PT
I haven't seen my oldest sister since 86 and we talked and saw each other on Skype. I got to talk with my oldest nephew from Florida on Skype. I got to see his Golden Lab that he loves and talks about when he calls me on the phone. 
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Comment #35 posted by FoM on November 27, 2009 at 08:52:06 PT
It was a day of wonder. It was the best Thanksgiving Day ever.
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Comment #34 posted by Hope on November 27, 2009 at 08:41:20 PT
Thanks for the picture, FoM
What a beautiful family. Looks like love, to me.
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Comment #33 posted by FoM on November 26, 2009 at 18:36:10 PT
Storm Crow
That is wonderful news. Happy Thanksgiving.
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Comment #32 posted by FoM on November 26, 2009 at 18:32:13 PT
Thank you for sharing the pictures. Happy Thanksgiving.
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Comment #31 posted by FoM on November 26, 2009 at 18:22:23 PT
What would CNews be without you. Happy Thanksgiving.
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Comment #30 posted by FoM on November 26, 2009 at 17:57:19 PT
A Wonderful Picture of Today
Today was a wonderful day. I wanted to share this picture with all of you. This is my dearly loved youngest nephew who was a contractor in Iraq and went to the Phillipines for a break and met Jessica. They got married a few months later and my nephew has lived with her in her country for a long time and she just got her Visa and now they are here. What a beautiful love story. My nephew has Muscular Dystrophy and he couldn't have found a nicer woman to be his wife. He never married before and he is 43 and she is in her mid 20s. She loves how kind people have been and she is looking forward to the snow. Their baby is precious.Happy Thanksgiving!
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Comment #29 posted by Dankhank on November 26, 2009 at 14:36:26 PT
make for the good life.friends I thank for putting up with rascally me.thanks for being here, many for a decade.damn, it's been a good run.Peace to all the peacemakers.Have a good day ...
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Comment #28 posted by runruff on November 26, 2009 at 13:41:29 PT
...if a picture says a thousand words I'm still way behind Museman!I be chokin' in his heel dust!
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Comment #27 posted by runruff on November 26, 2009 at 13:36:32 PT
Here is a pretty shot!
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Comment #26 posted by runruff on November 26, 2009 at 13:18:43 PT
I was only seventeen.....
but I owned the world!
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Comment #25 posted by runruff on November 26, 2009 at 13:13:24 PT
And here!
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Comment #24 posted by runruff on November 26, 2009 at 13:08:20 PT
My first toke took place here!
One beautiful summer night July 1964. I bought a matchbox from a Spanish gypsy! I was stand at about the same place as this photographer way standing near the fountain! late at night
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Comment #23 posted by museman on November 26, 2009 at 12:42:39 PT
runruff #5
Actually, about 38 years ago this month, in the deserted top story of a Civil War Surgeons Hospital, I got high for the first time, while listening to Pink Floyds Dark Side Of The Moon (also for the first time), and wrote my first meaningful song. Vietnamese it was, some of the most potent (including the so-called 'increased THC' of contemporary bud) I ever smoked.It is true, my brain will never be the same, but I prefer the change. Taught me what change really was -not just the mouthing of the words like our polits like to do to get elected.Yes, I went from social madness to Reefer Sanity in a matter of moments. 38 years, no cancer, no glaucoma, diabetes slowed, and much conscious awareness achieved while 'under the influence.'38 years, and only one side effect, only one real cause for concern; The illegal 'law' and all its pretenders to authority.38 years, 5 Universities and colleges. Trained as carpenter, electrician, stonemason, electronics technician, Microsoft A+, and semi-skilled in everything else. Cannabis helped empower my self-made journey, and enhanced my intuitive perception that the 'successes' of the material world are no such thing, and they come with too high a price; my life and time. The choice to not become a willing slave to the rich bastards who rule, was significantly reinforced by the Cannabis experience.38 years, 7 wonderful, talented children who have exceeded my expectations, and who are distinctly unburdened by the false beliefs and values of the status quo.38 years of rainbow color, still coming on despite the drab society that still rejects their own opportunity for consciousness, for the material satisfaction of fake values, and fear-based systems that serve only the elite few.38 years of PROOF. Here. There. everywhere, but not enough to 'qualify' as 'expertise' or acceptable proof -no endorsement from the status quo, so not 'qualified' to know -according to the putrescent humanity that thinks itself special and 'above' the rest of us.If it were a 'job' I could retire with benefits. If society looked to its learned experienced, instead of its academic ritual and rote, the children might get taught something of value.I taught 'em anyway, so society your days are numbered, and in keeping with this day of 'thanksgiving' I am truly thankful for your coming end, because all that has languished under the thumb of such ignorance for millennia is finally rising high enough above the tripe and hype, and dross of this fake and valueless civilization, for those who wish to see, to be able to see.38 years of sharing the most wonderful plant ever alive, with a group of people who know exactly what I am saying.38 years and counting.Smoke Pot, Smoke Pot, Everybody smoke pot......
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Comment #22 posted by Hope on November 26, 2009 at 12:41:21 PT
I am so thankful for that!Thank you, Storm Crow.A blessed day to you and yours.
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Comment #21 posted by Storm Crow on November 26, 2009 at 11:32:50 PT
 This is being one Happy Thanksgiving! Foster is Free! He Walked Out of Prison in Oklahoma TodayPosted in Chronicle Blog by Phillip Smith on Wed, 11/25/2009 - 6:01pmMedical marijuana patient Will Foster is a free man. According to a phone call I just received from his partner, Susan Mueller, Foster was released on parole and walked out of prison in Oklahoma today.As you who have followed the Will Foster saga know, he became a poster boy for drug war injustice when he was sentenced to a mind-blowing 93 years in prison in Oklahoma back in the 1990s for growing a closet-full of medical marijuana. Thanks in part to the efforts of (then known as DRCNet), Foster eventually got his sentence cut to a mere 20 years--for growing plants!--and was eventually paroled to the care of Guru of Ganja Ed Rosenthal in California, who had taken up his case.Last year, Foster was raided and charged with an illegal marijuana grow in California, although his grow was perfectly legal under the state's medical marijuana law. He spent a year in jail in Sonoma County before prosecutors dropped all charges, but by then, Oklahoma parole authorities demanded he return to the state to finish his sentence. Foster dropped his fight against extradition and returned in September. (snipped)In addition, Stephanie Landa (my "pen pal") was released to a half-way house earlier this month! I'm waiting for my first uncensored letter from her. Add the AMA news and a few other events, and we got ourselves one very Happy Thanksgiving for the cannabis community! So enjoy the bounty we are blessed with (and maybe play some today to help those who are less fortunate).
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Comment #20 posted by Hope on November 26, 2009 at 10:35:46 PT
I'm thankful for comment 19
and the man that wrote it.I think you must be a Peacemaker, Museman.For real.That's an extraordinary expression of love, first, and anger, and sorrow, and joy.Thank you.
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Comment #19 posted by museman on November 26, 2009 at 10:14:04 PT
To "The People"
I love this country like I love my wife,I love this land like I love my life,but that ain't the America they play on TVthat ain't the America we let the world see,and I'm just not so over VietNam,to pick war back up and do it again. I love these mountains like they were the only ones,I love these trees like they were my only sons,but that ain't the America that's under the gun,that ain't the America that fights a war that's never done,and I ain't convinced the rats don't run the show,for my children I tell you "Hell no, we won't go!" I love these people like I love a song,I love this freedom, and that was never wrong.but that ain't the America referred to as "The Law"that ain't the America of the fourty hour draw,and there's no reason under the sun to trust our s/elected kings,Let them be the first in battle, wouldn't that change the air of things? Can't you see behind the veils of intended misdirection?Don't they know that with all the pomp and patriotic rhetoric,(of course making good use of the tragedies close at hand,)we (the people) are not really fooled, and the wind still blows where it will? Will we encourage the sacrifice of our children, once againto enforce and maintain error throughout the world?(fodder for those who profit in the deadly game of war,)The rich must be defended, and the "right" of property must prevail. Do you really believe in the exchange of your life?Is it really worth all the hours, days, weeks, and years?Are your wages equal to the Presidents? Is their time worth more than yours?Do their eyes have saltier tears? A wake up call was issued long ago, but as a race we must be half deaf,'cause the message keeps getting louder all the time,and it'll keep on getting louder, 'til none of the sleepers are left They say it is our national christian duty, by word, example and deed,to cry for revenge of those forever lost to us,in berserker rage, rains of fire and destruction, and bloodthirsty zeal.To murder those who murdered us, who were murdered by somebody's ancestors,who were murdered in revenge for their preceding murderousness,which was revenge for having been murdered. Alas for those who would continue to uphold the illusion of fine clothhiding the emporers' scrawny nakedness,THE CHILD SEES. THE CHILD SAW. HE TOLD US. WE KNOW.
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Comment #18 posted by FoM on November 26, 2009 at 09:54:00 PT
I love this country too. We are different in different places but we really are all the same. Some people love the fast pace of big cities and others are only content when close to nature. We need each other and that's a good thing. My nephew's wife doesn't know anything about the wonders we have like hot running water that we take for granted. They have birth defects because pregnant women don't get enough folic acid. People die from Hepatitis A. Sanitation is non existent. We are truly a fortunate people.
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Comment #17 posted by Hope on November 26, 2009 at 09:33:37 PT
Born in the USA
That is a blessing and I'm thankful for it, too. I love that song. I love this country and her people. She's not perfect, but she's home and we need to keep her the best we can.Thank you, Runruff... and yes... bless the cheesemakers, too... especially if they love peace.
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Comment #16 posted by FoM on November 26, 2009 at 09:28:55 PT
Thank you. I hope you and your family have a wonderful day. We still have a lot of work to do but today is a day of thanksgiving for the simple blessings that have come our way. 
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Comment #15 posted by museman on November 26, 2009 at 09:22:38 PT
for good friends and family. Thanks for evidence of rising consciousness conspicuously absent since the dumbing down began eons ago in the nearly buried past. Thanks for this land, and the spirit of this land, that is ultimately stronger than all the rape and pillage the USA and its rulers have inflicted on it.Thanks for the opportunity to experience real reality before the USA put UPC codes and access restrictions on nature.Thanks for the brave souls who will not compromise their soul for the sake of false peace, measured by gluttony and waste -like so many dead turkeys testify on this day.Thanks for freedom (no thanks to the USA) to have a choice (even if all the kings horses and all the kings men, do and say anything to prevent it)Thanks for the gift of life, which (contrary to the 'job market' mentality), was freely given without the requirement of 'employment.'There are many things to be thankful for on this day -like any other day the earth turns on its axis, and many many more to put on the 'remove' list, but the one thing, one substance that I am most thankful for, is, yes, you guessed it; CANNABIS!!!!So,LEGALIZE IT!!!
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Comment #14 posted by FoM on November 26, 2009 at 09:04:27 PT
Thank you! That video is perfect. I hope you and Linda have a wonderful day.
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Comment #13 posted by runruff on November 26, 2009 at 09:01:25 PT
Many stories in the USA!
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Comment #12 posted by FoM on November 26, 2009 at 08:17:33 PT
Today I will meet my youngest nephew's wife. He met her when he went to the Philippines for a break from Iraq because he was a contractor. They are married and now have a sweet little baby girl. It took a long time for her to be allowed to come to our country but finally they are home. The more I have learned about how hard it is to live in the Philippines the more I appreciate our country. We have serious flaws here but nothing like some other countries. Today I am thankful for being born in the USA.
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Comment #11 posted by runruff on November 26, 2009 at 08:15:40 PT
God bless the cheesemakers!Why?What about the shoemakers, the bakers and such?
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Comment #10 posted by Hope on November 26, 2009 at 08:03:59 PT
Right, Vincent.
God bless the Peacemakers.
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Comment #9 posted by Hope on November 26, 2009 at 08:00:37 PT
Today and every day...
I'm very thankful for all of you and C-News.Have a great day, C-Newsers.
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Comment #8 posted by Vincent on November 26, 2009 at 07:58:47 PT:
Peace, at least for today
Good morning all. Perhaps the prohibitionists, politicians, moralists and police will never declare a ceasefire in their "drug war" but, I will. At least for the next 24 hours. What am I trying to say?Just have a peaceful, Happy Thanksgiving everyone. Enjoy!
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Comment #7 posted by ezrydn on November 26, 2009 at 06:27:23 PT:
You gotta be kidding. They won't debate us. They're totally afraid to. Look at what's in play: Lies and Facts. That's not a debate. And what's with all these calls for "debates and dialogue?" Everyone seems to tout it but no one's actually doing it, other than us.It they want debate, then set it up! We're ready. More than ready! Let's have a week long debate, one hour each evening in prime time and then open the floor to the public, via phone and internet. Of course, BO would just snicker and ask the same question again, "What does that say about the online crowd."THEY'RE AFRAID OF DEBATE!
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Comment #6 posted by FoM on November 26, 2009 at 06:08:29 PT
Happy Thanksgiving Everyone
I hope everyone has a great day. 
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Comment #5 posted by runruff on November 26, 2009 at 04:40:37 PT
Museman, what 40 years now, puffing?
According to reco loc your brain is burnt out and you are incapable of such long, in depth, insightful, well written, dissertations!So stop it!
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Comment #4 posted by museman on November 26, 2009 at 00:17:29 PT
The "Rule of Law"
Sounds stern, fixed, and immovable. It is the actually manifested "Sword of Damocles" that is hung over the heads of the masses, while jocularly ignored by the 'rulers' themselves. It is the belief in some order or another that will somehow by force, demand, and dictate, insure the perpetuity of the established system of the ruled and the Rulers, thereby providing future generations of rulers, the willing and unwilling fodder -of the ruled- for their personal edification and entertainment.The "Rule of Law" is not about liberty, or freedom, it is about repressing liberty and freedom, and those who defend the might-is-right Big Brother tactics of the elite who rule and posses our time and lives largely by their own whim and agenda, cannot be purely free enough to observe their own dilemma, let alone the truth in all its naked glory.I don't know, and can't say for anyone else, but I myself was simply not born and raised to be a slave -no matter how well paid. I was born and raised in some mythical land called America. The history of the short rise and long fall of a "Nation, under (God), with Liberty and Justice for all" has within it the dashed hopes and dreams of many generations since the 'Revolutionary War' -not told within the texts crammed into the skulls of the young, experiencing their first awareness of adult duplicity through the forced curriculum of compliant behavior.Either the teachers, preachers, experts, and all the rest who manipulate, and assist in the manipulation of minds to the point of uselessness, but agreeable to the labors of supporting the rulers of the various states, are lying, or they have been fooled themselves, or both, because reality is nowhere near the one that men and their masters have forced upon the earth like a rape of the most violent kind.Freedom is a gift, it comes with ones' first breath, and exists until the rulers and their imposed 'system' cross paths with the free individual. Or you die and move on to hopefully greater freedom.What we have here isn't freedom, its 'FEEDOM'The sovereignty of each and every one of us is controlled by force of arms, and threat of harm or imprisonment.The "Rule of Law" is contradictory to Personal Sovereignty and Liberty. The "Rule of Law" is imposed upon us without consent, and in many cases knowledge.One day my friends, the clarity of true freedom will dawn to those who seek it, and as the consciousness rises to meet it, many false and destructive things will naturally fall away, and these abominable concepts of economic/racial/academic-alpha-dog competitive, warlike tendencies will be seen for the shallow, empty vessels of a false power elite, whose day has finally come.LEGALIZE FREEDOM
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Comment #3 posted by The GCW on November 25, 2009 at 20:42:56 PT
Why where there speak-easies?
BINGO...the speak-easies of the 1930s...Need We say more?
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Comment #2 posted by ekim on November 25, 2009 at 17:09:02 PT
thanks for all you do 
THC effects on Brain Cancer cells
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Comment #1 posted by kaptinemo on November 25, 2009 at 16:27:23 PT:
If this man isn't a LEAP member, he should be
"As a chief law-enforcement officer, I would encourage all of us to have a healthy and respectful debate about what place marijuana has in our society and if it should remain criminalized. That decision belongs to our elected representatives, and we will enforce laws based upon those choices. We ask only that the laws be clearly understood, supported, and we be allowed to enforce them uniformly and appropriately."There it is...from the mouth of a sitting Chief of Police. The dreaded "D-word". Debate The word that usually sends prohibs running to the bathroom, courtesy of a sudden urge to empty their in having the p!$$ scared out of them when they hear that word.Yes, let's have the debate the prohibs have moved Heaven and Earth to obstruct. If it is anything, it should be entertaining...though the prohibs should be provided with some adult diapers before-hand...just in case, you understand. 
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