Medicinal Marijuana Law Remains Too Hazy

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  Medicinal Marijuana Law Remains Too Hazy

Posted by CN Staff on August 29, 2009 at 10:44:23 PT
Source: Spokesman-Review 

Washington -- In 1998, Washington state voters approved an initiative allowing for the use of marijuana for specific medicinal purposes, but the practical application of the law has been hazy. Meanwhile, interpretation and enforcement of the law has varied widely from community to community.Patients want marijuana for relief from the effects of glaucoma, multiple sclerosis, Crohn’s disease and other ailments. Suppliers want relief from law enforcement officers who bust them for possession and illegal sales.
The conundrum lies in the fact that the law allows for marijuana’s use with a medical permit, but doesn’t explain how it can be legally obtained. Before November 2008, it was even unclear what amount constituted a legal 60-day supply. That was clarified by the state as 1.5 pounds. The law says patients can grow marijuana plants, but that isn’t practical for many people. Plus, it’s not clear that obtaining seeds would even pass legal muster. So dispensaries have sprouted up, but Spokane law enforcement is targeting them, saying one person cannot supply another.Scott Q. Shupe runs a Spokane dispensary but was recently busted when he traveled to Oregon to purchase marijuana. That state doesn’t recognize medical permits from other states.Compounding all of this is federal law that doesn’t even acknowledge a medicinal purpose; however, federal enforcement isn’t common.We don’t condone Shupe’s act. The Oregon law is clear. But legalizing medicinal marijuana without laying out a reasonable way to obtain it is madness. Certainly marijuana can be abused if used foolishly and if it falls into the wrong hands. So can OxyContin, which is among a long list of prescription drugs that have become a law enforcement headache. A Shopko was recently robbed by a thief seeking the painkiller. But OxyContin can still be obtained with a prescription. Nobody has to manufacture it in their basements.The overreaction to marijuana stems from the stigma attached to it long ago, when laws lumped it with heroin and other dangerous and illicit drugs. But we know better now. Yet, police departments assign precious resources to ensure that patients don’t obtain it. Meanwhile, property crimes go uninvestigated for lack of officers.The state Legislature needs to clarify the law so that patients with legitimate reasons to use marijuana don’t have to be treated like criminals if they do. This would also make it easier for police officers and prosecutors to decide when it really is in the public’s interest to intervene.Source: Spokesman-Review (Spokane, WA)Published: August 29, 2009Copyright: 2009 The Spokesman-ReviewContact: editor spokesman.comURL: Medical Marijuana Archives

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Comment #77 posted by Hope on September 06, 2009 at 12:54:05 PT
Afterburner comment 50
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Comment #76 posted by Hope on September 06, 2009 at 12:44:25 PT
Dankhank Comment 44
That's awful. I hope that wasn't the Sarge that posted here a little bit, a year or so ago. Well I'm sorry it was this Sarge, or any Sarge, or anybody, whether he was that Sarge or not. I'd rather he hadn't been arrested or harrassed. I'd rather no one would be jailed and persecuted over the plant.
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Comment #75 posted by museman on September 05, 2009 at 09:20:49 PT
Dank, Sinse
... a good combo....Thanks for the acknowledgement.LEGALIZE FREEDOM
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Comment #74 posted by Sinsemilla Jones on September 04, 2009 at 16:08:35 PT
Muse is the Man!
The gnostic man. I don't always read everything you write, but I'm most always enlightened when I do.
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Comment #73 posted by Dankhank on September 02, 2009 at 15:55:39 PT
muse ...
you've obviously thought of these things much more than I have. I agree with most all you say. If you say something I may not agree with, it's not important enough to mention.thanks for sharing ...
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Comment #72 posted by museman on September 02, 2009 at 14:07:38 PT
dongenero ... and more
I am reminded of an experience I had many years ago with a group of people referred to as a 'christian cult.' They were called "The Christ Brotherhood." Some Oregonians from that era might remember them.I and a friend of mine had an occasion to visit the founder and leader of that cult at his home in Eugene. Our reasons for being there had to do with music, and some equipment we hoped to get a deal on.They had an old Franklin stove in the middle of their studio. The leader, now in exile in Belise, Patterson Brown, said they needed to start a fire, whereupon he opened the stove and stuffed in about five huge blocks of styrofoam, lit them on fire and closed the stove door.I was flabbergasted! I couldn't believe that these people could have been so unconscious and seemingly spiritually enlightened at the same time. I put the question to Patterson, 
"You do know that burning that is toxic don't you?"His answer;"Yes, but it doesn't matter, because it is the end of the world, and Gods' going to destroy it all anyway."That was over 20 years ago. Left unchecked, that attitude has no doubt contributed tremendously to the lack of efforts to address the eco-disaster -made by man- that is producing the very real scenarios of 'the end.'You probably know all or most of this;The word "Relgios" is Latin (a dead language -the language of Emperors) that means "To constrain, or hold back."Not all who follow, or claim the way and teaching of Y'shua (mistakenly referred to as 'jesus' by the uninformed, or stubborn denial) see the entirety of the way, which was why He admonished us to not assume things about our fellows, or judge them in the process of assuming. He didn't advise us to "Love our enemies" and then turn around and tell us to spite them by thinking ourselves somehow superior because we are attempting to follow, but get weary of the labor of loving that which hates us. This is why He offers us Forgiveness, because we need it, each and every one. Not because we are guilty from some primordial sin from a proverbial or mythical Creation Story ("The sins of the father are not visited upon the son.") but because we are human beings left in a world with few right guides, and a multitude of pretenders.In a world that devours its people in wars and economic conquest, that literally leaves dead children face down in the mud almost on a daily basis -a good portion of which is justified by religions, the real, sacred congregation is, like Y'shua stated; "Like the salt of the earth, and where is that salt if it has lost its savor?" He told us;"Wherever 2 or more are gathered in my name, I WILL BE WITH YOU."He did not say;"Build me many churches.""Choose from the royal families those who will be your priests and ministers.""Write all this down...."Ayeh Asher Ayeh is not confined to anyone's concept of how a 'god' should be.It is the essence of freedom, liberty, wonder, creation, joy, love, strength, knowledge, and wisdom, and it is the blueprint of the human spirit.It is not in a box, a book, a pocket, or in any way 'posessed' by any being, and Creation was not made to torture and test us, but just simply as a place to be. A habitation for our human spirit, not a battleground for fallen angels and their nephalim offspring (even though they have made it so.)If in fact 'evil' exists in our reality, it exists only within the hearts and minds of humanity, not nature and the rest of Creation. There is an end to this world coming soon, but it is not the end of the earth, nor of Creation.When Ya created it, the earth and all life on it (before man) He said; "It is good!"That declaration precedes all claims by men to the contrary.To expect that the Creator of this Good Work is going to destroy it based on the selective interpretations of limited information, and the desires of some 'born again' whatevers to escape the living responsibility of the here and now, is ludicrous at best, scary at worst.The good news is that many people have trod the way of the truth, including (and IMO foremost) Y'shua, but the question that does not get asked enough, is whether it is more important to recognize the message, than the messenger? And in Y'shuas case, how can one know the messenger without really getting the message?I do not claim to know all there is to know about Y'shua, but I do know there is more to it than xtianity has ever gotten, and the message has suffered for it, because it has been made to look the way it has, for all the wrong reasons.I do marvel at the strength of the truth as reflected in what survives of the record (no thanks to the churches who don't want us to know what is in the Dead Sea Scrolls) of especially the parables of Y'shua, which managed to remain relatively intact during the final conquest of man by the false church of christ (Rome).If you seek the truth, and not the emotion, Y'shua delivered the goods, His 'passion' for the Truth is perhaps (IMO) his greatest gift to us. What has been made of that good delivery by thieves and pretenders, is not the message, nor the intention of it.When, I first sought out 'Jesus' as a lad of 8. He came to me in a vision in a Southern Baptist Church in rural Missouri.To keep it short, He told me that He wasn't there. I still looked for many years even though HE HIMSELF told me that he wasn't there. Because its not what words you say, or repeat, its how you live them.People carry Y'shua within them, just like the Father. There are many levels of understanding of the nature, presence, and consciousness of the Great Spirit, and all the many Spirits that make up the celestial and earthly Creation.Y'shua said; "I am the Truth, The Light, and The Way . None shall go to the Father except with me."When one begins to follow the "Truth, The Light, and The Way, prayer takes on new meaning, as well as power.Faith is beyond definition. The trick of course is investing one's faith in the most spiritually profitable stock -and unfortunately that is exactly the way most people view the process.So what exactly did Y'shua mean when he said;"What you have done to these the least of my brethren, you have done to me?"Did he say that we should treat each other as we would be treated, but that He (being 'god' and all) would 'punish' the entire planet because we didn't? Kind of like an alcoholic father saying "Don't do as I do, do as I say!"Where does that fit into peace, love, understanding and forgiveness?I don't ever think of Y'shua as a hypocrit, and I actually find it kind 'blasphemous' that this hypocrisy is so constantly ascribed to him. But of course, I remind myself that 'jesus' isn't Y'shua, so though there are historical similarities, one is a made up religion based loosely on the other -for purposes of continuing the domination of the same ruling classes we are dealing with today -all related closely to the point of incest- and the other went underground 2,000 years ago and is only now coming back into the light and conscousness.One world dies, another is born, really. Sorry dongenero for waxing long, I got 'carried away.'FREE CANNABIS FOREVER
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Comment #71 posted by dongenero on September 02, 2009 at 09:30:46 PT
parallel with Fundamentalist Islam
"people can not see the things a born again Christian can see due to the fact that they are still part of this world and are still lost betting on this life."This is much the mindset of Fundamentalist Islam. The extremists are so eager to blow themselves up because they too are certain of this better life to come. Blowing themselves up as they do, in the name of their religion gives them assured entry into that better world. They too see things that others can't. They are no longer betting on this world either.You can quickly appreciate the danger when you pit such extreme viewpoints against each other and provide them each with political and/or military power to make their "end of days", in other words, their "belief" come true.
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Comment #70 posted by dongenero on September 02, 2009 at 09:18:25 PT
all or nothing, black or white, good or evil
I live in a world where good exists, evil exists and everything between. This contrived world where everything is polar opposite, or black and white, is the realm of extremists. Extremists and alcoholics, interestingly.I'm all for respecting people's belief or faith but, let's be clear, it is faith, no matter how little one perceives their personal doubts. Religion is a faith practice.It's when the condescension and hate towards other "non-beleievers" or those who simply believe something else begins, that I have no patience for the self righteousness of these loons. And yes, evil is in men's hearts, (including every religious human being on this planet, maybe especially!), but indeed there is no evil in a plant.
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Comment #69 posted by museman on September 02, 2009 at 09:13:18 PT
 are all written by humans. Sometimes they are works inspired by the Sacred and Spiritual, sometimes they are inspired entertainment. But most of them are created out of some desire for power, status, or profit. Why else would almost an entire global population believe that "authority" is codified simply by publishing a book?For centuries, only the ruling classes were even able to read, and their 'books' are the basis and parameters of current common beliefs in the systems in place. 
(read Platos "The Republic" Machiavellis "The Prince")The books of the 2 (and a half) prime global religions, both started out with the same God, the same stories, and a lot of the same teachers and prophets. The religions were dependent on the belief of the populace in the charismatics that 'preached the word.'Before the text was the life and the experience.History shows us what our ruling caste has done with the word.The warning against false religions has been unheeded in the religions themselves, which are all false, was made by a man that modern regiousitists don't even know his name!Centuries of darkness, fear, torture, rape, and destruction is the result and fruit of these false abominations, not the joy, love, peace, and abundance promised over 2 thousand years ago in the biggest carrot ever to be put on a stick.YSHWH was perhaps the greatest revolutionary ever. His teachings and examples prove (to the diligent practitioner) his prophecy; "The Truth shall set you free."And what is the bondage? It is to lies and disinformation. Without the truth we are doomed to live and die under the thumb of those who gleefully take advantage of our ignorance to enslave us for their worldly purposes.Personally, I first discovered the phenomenon of dead religions, versus the Living Word a long time ago. As a 'fatherless child' I experienced the 'biblical' promise that YHWH made to Israel. My first 'fatherly' relationship was with "My Father In Heaven' (my favorite nomenclature).I would sit by a moving stream, or watch the sunset, pondering the mysteries of the day, and often My Father would join me.We had much conversation in my youth. When I first acknowledged this with 'christians' that I met, I was told, from the kid in Sunday School, to the preacher, that I was not able "to converse with 'God'" only the 'appointed', and 'anointed' of the 'church' could do that.YHWH was right there inside me witnessing this mistake, but the religious propaganda of fear and ignorance prevalent in the corruptions of Truth that are the religions of xtianity, and islam, was, and still is in deep denial of the actual truth."Judge not lest you be judged." How can whole populations of people judge other whole populations, except based on fear and ignorance?"You will know them by their fruit." So how does it make one feel to be told that they are doomed from birth? Is that some kind of 'good fruit?' Tastes pretty bitter to me.Bitterness is what we taste in dealing with the continuing ignorance of people who can't/won't go out and look and see for themselves what wonders YHWH has given us in Creation, and within our own beings, but instead sit in a box praying for deliverance from what they are actually doing and living, contriving ways to make other peoples lives miserable.The church was lost over a millennia ago when the most real of them, the Gnostics, were persecuted out of existence by the Holy Roman Empire.The Bible is not The Living Word, it is a hack job of pre-existing prose and Hebrew history, and a selective edit of numerous texts referred to as "The Gospels". The "Word" that is YHWH does not live in boxes and books, He lives in our hearts and minds -in the moment, not the moldy past.LEGALIZE FREEDOM
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Comment #68 posted by quartermaster on September 02, 2009 at 08:28:13 PT
good and evil
and we are all related. if it is not of good then it is of evil. the opposite of Jesus is satan and most of the world is under his control and dont even know it. Jesus did not lie and only he can grant ever lasting life, that is to be with Jesus forever. what a gift. people can not see the things a born again Christian can see due to the fact that they are still part of this world and are still lost betting on this life. Jesus said this life can be over in an instant, after that starts forever. he also said evil dwells in mans heart, he did not say in plants lol
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Comment #67 posted by FoM on September 02, 2009 at 08:09:46 PT

I agree. Hate has no place in any religion in my opinion. I'm right and you're wrong is what causes wars. We should learn from history.
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Comment #66 posted by dankhank on September 02, 2009 at 07:16:01 PT

books ...
The Bible and the Koran are EACH afflicted with the same thing.The old testament is fire and brimstone, death and destruction for all who are not the "children of israel."a portion of the koran is the same.for Christians, the hate came first, then the love of Jesus.for Muslims, the peace and love came first, then later a man "channeled" hate and intolerance from a long-gone Muhammad.BOTH religions need to purge the hate from their beliefs.Neither is immune from criticism.
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Comment #65 posted by FoM on September 02, 2009 at 05:49:05 PT

Paint with light
You're welcome. I really do try to be fair. If I ever find any news to post we soon will have 25,000 articles on CNews. I probably could write a book! LOL!
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Comment #64 posted by runruff on September 02, 2009 at 05:10:04 PT

The DEA are so mad, they are seeing green!!!
Yesterday a friend flew the valley where I live in his Cessna. He said that our neighborhood alone had over 100 cannabis gardens visible from the air. These are just the large gardens [100 plants]. Officials report that there are over 2,000 smaller type gardens [24-48 plants] in Southern Oregon alone.I told my wife that if the filthy feds wanted to start arresting people in Oregon they would need to build Gulags to hold us all!A pox on the DEA!
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Comment #63 posted by John Tyler on September 01, 2009 at 22:51:36 PT

thanks for the link
Thanks for the links to the pictures of the festival. That really took me back to the days when I had a VW microbus with the ragtop with little windows around the roof, and the orange sunshine, purple microdot, (wow, you would definitely merge with the cosmos with some of that), good mescaline, the total spiritual vibe, and everybody was so cute. I loved it. And the music was sooo good. Everyone had a passion for peace, love and understanding.
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Comment #62 posted by Paint with light on September 01, 2009 at 22:18:10 PT

Thanks for continuing to moderate fairly.I was on a back-up computer of mine the other day and noticed the first time I added a shortcut to Cnews was on 2 16 04.What a long strange trip its been. Legal like alcohol.
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Comment #61 posted by quartermaster on September 01, 2009 at 21:38:36 PT

i did not yell as i did not use caps. and what started me off is arnold sending that man back to oklahoma. the 2 repub govs conspired to destroy that democrat, legal med person after he completed probation in Ca. that is domestic terrorism. and sending 410 mil to mexico and having 7500 people die due to it is state sponsored terrorism. and where will every 1 run to when Jesus rips open the very sky and it is all of a sudden the last day hmmmm. also islam does follow a book that gives them the right to kill us, what do you say to that?
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Comment #60 posted by FoM on September 01, 2009 at 10:28:57 PT

I never measure success by money either. Being successful is doing the right thing in my mind. 
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Comment #59 posted by museman on September 01, 2009 at 10:07:02 PT

Thank you.I have a pocketful of fans, but they are all rare gems, like you and Stick.Its because of that handful, I haven't stopped yet.I measure success by those terms, not the other ones with all the bankers, lawyers, insurers, marketers, profiteers, and middle men that claim to have the handle on 'success' that looks like this:$
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Comment #58 posted by museman on September 01, 2009 at 10:01:48 PT

still another...
No More Running From The Light
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Comment #57 posted by FoM on September 01, 2009 at 09:59:57 PT

Stick told me to tell you that he yelled out since he was on the other side of the house is that Museman? He recognized your singing and tune. He said he was grooving to the tune. Good job.
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Comment #56 posted by FoM on September 01, 2009 at 09:53:41 PT

I really like the redo, if that is what I should call it, of Survival is My Day Job. Thank you. Gosh you have a beautiful flow of music. Thank you.
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Comment #55 posted by museman on September 01, 2009 at 09:45:49 PT

and another one
Lyrics; original; the band;
Dead Religions
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Comment #54 posted by FoM on September 01, 2009 at 09:27:47 PT

I don't know who you are yelling at to wake up. People are awake and aware but don't necessarily believe what you believe which should be fine. We probably have Muslims that read or maybe even comment on CNews so please stop bringing Islam up. We have people on CNews who are Atheists. We can believe what we want but we shouldn't jump other people's faith.
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Comment #53 posted by museman on September 01, 2009 at 09:25:32 PT

"Jesus"A repost...Don't want to start anything, but I cannot let it fly by. So rather than words that can be misconstrued;The lyrics;
Face Down In The Mud
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Comment #52 posted by quartermaster on September 01, 2009 at 08:55:46 PT:

Islam will cut your head off for the plant.republicans will throw you in Jail for the plant. Jesus said to beware of the great false religion that will rise to become a scourge on the face of the earth. hmm i wonder who that could be. Christianity is only a religion if you make it so. Jesus is God not a religion but fact. 1 day all who bring harm to others will be gone.we are not a growing planet but a dying planet. heaven and earth shall pass away but the words of God are eternal. wake up.
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Comment #51 posted by FoM on September 01, 2009 at 08:20:56 PT

Hollow Words
So many of the articles I have seen online pro or con seem totally hollow to me. We need a good, positive, working with this administration type article. Sooner or later someone will write one. Sometimes it seems all I see are about shops and trying to make a lot of money now before someone beats them to the punch. Is is about money these day? Is it a power struggle these days? Is it about changing the laws so people aren't arrested for possessing any amount cannabis? The last question is the only one that interests me.
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Comment #50 posted by afterburner on September 01, 2009 at 07:49:34 PT

FoM #48
Dr. Robert S. Ellison, staff physician in the Mary S. Shook Student Health Service Center, [states], “Marijuana should not be made legal for medical reasons as well as social reasons. Reasons that have been well studied by medical and scientific researchers both in the U.S. and Europe.”Ellison points to an article issued by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in 1982. 
}1982? Wake up and smell the coffee, buddy! That was 27 years ago when NIDA had a lock on research proving that cannabis was damaging to humans. Lots of new research has been done since then, especially in Europe and even some in the USA, indicating health benefits of cannabis. Yes, Virginia, cannabis is medicine! As far as passion goes: it is a double-edged sword. We have joyful happy passions and angry fearful passions. I, sir, am no masochist. I do not rejoice in economic hardship. I do rejoice in friends and family.I am no sadist. I do not take joy in the suffering of my fellow humans. The economy is bad. Opportunities are limited. People are confused. Some may find their bliss, but most will have to muddle through. Jailing people for enjoying a flower is unacceptable. 
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Comment #49 posted by museman on September 01, 2009 at 07:48:27 PT

link in #48
Ok, so this person needs to stop dictating -from their own biased 'perspective' (more like prohib mouthpiece) how it is that someone other than themselves should 'get high.'I find it kind of annoying that this person can speak as if cannabis use isn't 'passionate!'As if to brave the pits of Mordor, and evade its many servants of darkness is somehow 'less passionate' than whatever floats this persons boat.And basing the entire assumption on the same old tired propaganda from a 2-decade old study from the CDC, long rendered defunct by modern research , is just lame.This person is lame, mentally and informationally crippled, and maybe they are passionate about their ignorance, and getting high on their 'I'm better than them' attitude, but they haven't a CLUE as to what they are talking about. They should find some republicans and co-miserate passionately over their own 'drug' of choice; alcohol.Stupid people should not be allowed to publish such tripe. There oughta be a War On Stupidity, but there isn't enough prison space, or non-stupid cops and guards to man them.Fire this idiot.FREE CANNABIS FOREVER
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Comment #48 posted by FoM on September 01, 2009 at 05:18:30 PT

Get High on Passion, Not Plant 
August 31, 2009URL:
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Comment #47 posted by FoM on September 01, 2009 at 05:14:07 PT

Very good ideas there lady.
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Comment #46 posted by FoM on September 01, 2009 at 05:13:35 PT

I don't know anyone that isn't in trouble because of the economy. Every day is another day of no direction. Drugs masked pain but Cannabis helps a person to cope but it doesn't numb the mind. I'm glad he realized that wasn't the way to go.
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Comment #45 posted by FoM on September 01, 2009 at 05:10:05 PT

Thank you for the article. I know the VA saved my husband's life but the follow up isn't good. Maybe because we know how mind altering drugs can cause more harm then good when it comes to helping a person emotionally he has never asked for any. 
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Comment #44 posted by dankhank on September 01, 2009 at 03:42:44 PT

soldiers and how we treat them ...
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Comment #43 posted by Hope on August 31, 2009 at 22:25:08 PT

Give incentives to the homeboys
and homegirls. Homies. Home folks.... etc. and all.
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Comment #42 posted by Hope on August 31, 2009 at 22:17:37 PT

Let us grow and manufacture things to sell to each other.Give incentives to the homeboys. Us. Our people in this country. Tariff the imports. Encourage interstate commerce. Encourage manufacturing. Encourage growing and cleaning up and fixing stuff. Improve housing by subsidizing and training more plumbers, building maintenance, car mechanics, and carpenters to the trades than lawyers. How about that?
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Comment #41 posted by Hope on August 31, 2009 at 20:45:52 PT

I care.That's wonderful news. When I first started reading it, I was worried. I thought you were going to say something horrible, like suicide, overdose, or deadly allergic reaction or something happened to him.I'm so glad it worked for him... and I'm sure his liver is happy too.Thank you for sharing that.
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Comment #40 posted by Hope on August 31, 2009 at 20:40:44 PT

News is slow.
Although nitwitism still abounds, as usual, as in the Colorado doctor witch hunt.While the news is slow, why don't we see if we can think of some things to help the economy. Some outrageous, unheard of, wild, yet possible, different, strange and good ideas.I've been thinking about it so I already have an idea or two. Why don't employers start hiring as many people to work as they possibly can, instead of as few as possible? Hire more than enough. As many as a company can possibly afford. Friendly work atomospheres. More happy people, the happier the world.A slimmer profit margin for companies is better than no profit margin and no company.How about something like company towns and communities again? Company buses or vans can pick up workers at their homes and take them to work and return them to their homes at the end of the shift... just like for school or they can walk... just like for school. Personal vehicles would not congest the highways so much at rush times.Think about it. Maybe if we can save the economy they will have time to look at our issue.:0)
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Comment #39 posted by goneposthole on August 31, 2009 at 20:24:32 PT

medical marijuana
A good friend of my son's was depressed because of financial problems. He was imbibing prescribed medications to treat his depression. He recently stopped using all of his medications and began to smoke cannabis again.He came out of his funk. Don't use those other legal drugs, smoke cannabis instead.No need to give up. Cannabis works.Anectdotal, but who cares?
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Comment #38 posted by MikeC on August 31, 2009 at 18:20:28 PT

Why don't the run a story on the two doctors with the most Pfizer or Johnson and Johnson referrals?
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Comment #37 posted by FoM on August 31, 2009 at 12:23:34 PT

2 Doctors Behind Most Pot Referrals in Colorado
August 31, 2009URL:
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Comment #36 posted by Hope on August 31, 2009 at 06:09:30 PT

That sounds like so much fun. The performers! Amazing to see who was performing at these festivals. I wasn't at any of them. At that time I was taking care of a baby and a three year old. I knew about it though. Six miles from the festival? Were people parked that far back?
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Comment #35 posted by Hope on August 31, 2009 at 06:05:03 PT

That one little letter does make it have a completely different effect, doesn't it?You are so funny.
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Comment #34 posted by FoM on August 31, 2009 at 05:49:37 PT

I can't find Taking Woodstock anywhere around here. I am glad you enjoyed it. It probably will be released at Christmas so if I don't find it to go see now I will buy it for my collection.
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Comment #33 posted by runruff on August 31, 2009 at 05:06:10 PT

Andrea Doria!
One little letter and I had to come back! I am like the Rainman without the math skills, I'm afraid!
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Comment #32 posted by runruff on August 31, 2009 at 05:01:33 PT

Rasmussen should poll my neighborhood.
Rasmussen is running out of republican strong holds to poll in! Republicans are abandoning ship faster than rats on the Andrea Dora!
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Comment #31 posted by dankhank on August 30, 2009 at 21:58:54 PT

last post for the night ... ..... out ......
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Comment #30 posted by dankhank on August 30, 2009 at 21:51:06 PT

1st atlanta in 1969 ...
was pretty good, too I heard, though, they had so much fun they couldn't do it again in Atlanta, so that's how the 2nd ended up in central GA.  thank the one for that move ... only 6 miles from my house.
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Comment #29 posted by dankhank on August 30, 2009 at 21:46:32 PT

and also ...
a place in NC called Love Valley.I googled "love valley pop festival" and found a little about it ... in 1970man ... those were the days ...

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Comment #28 posted by dankhank on August 30, 2009 at 21:27:23 PT

cool read ....
very true, Hope ...
don't want to seem combative, but, here's what happened in July2, 3 and 4, 1970 in central GA's good to know that Woodstock had a couple of really good follow-ups ... one in Texas and one in Georgia.In GA, traffic was backed up on I-75 for one-hundred miles ... all the way back up to Atlanta.Go see "Taking Woodstock" ... it's marvelous ... all about the run-up to The Greatest Hippie Encampment ... ever ...I went to see it ... stoned and sweaty and stinky. Seemed so perfect ... :-)I'd walked a couple of miles early in the day, hot, and gone to help spouse at her work on some computers. Got off to the show at 5:25PM and made it to Bricktown in OKC in time for the 6:50 show. 90 miles. We were zooming.
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Comment #27 posted by Hope on August 30, 2009 at 20:57:57 PT

More current news about Foster case
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Comment #26 posted by Hope on August 30, 2009 at 20:17:39 PT

Dang it!
Sorry about that. I should have gone and got a little url.
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Comment #25 posted by Hope on August 30, 2009 at 20:16:34 PT

Cool read...
Texas International Pop Festival was full of surprises for artists, fans, onlookers
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Comment #24 posted by Hope on August 30, 2009 at 19:55:16 PT

"Walking wounded"
I know what you mean.
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Comment #23 posted by Hope on August 30, 2009 at 19:53:10 PT

Will Foster
was a horror story, more than an activist. Although I think I remember him showing up in support of Ed Rosenthal at his trial.Will Foster's story was a horror/marijuana/drug war story that seemed to have been resolved. More or less. As much as any event in anyone's life as traumatic as this one was can ever be "Over".I'm wondering how this was kept out of the news. It's very strange.
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Comment #22 posted by FoM on August 30, 2009 at 18:13:58 PT

I don't think Will Foster has been in the news. If he was an activist I never knew about it. The problem is we have so many people in situations that are similar and we have mentally overloaded. It's like the walking wounded in a war. We walk around almost oblivious to what is happening to many people.
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Comment #21 posted by Hope on August 30, 2009 at 18:08:32 PT

pray for sanity to return. Peace, steve
You got an "Amen" there, Bro.It's good to hear from you.Poor Lucy Mae. I imagine all she's having to deal with is very, very difficult and frightening.I'm so glad she's recovering.
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Comment #20 posted by FoM on August 30, 2009 at 18:07:51 PT

I am glad she is doing cardiac rehab. I don't know what that is though. Stick is on so many pills now. It sure takes a lot out of a person when they have serious heart problems. Stick's cholesterol was always good so it was shocking that he has and had such serious blockages.The whole LA scene is way too much for me to try to figure out. I don't know how people have the nerve to do what they are doing out there. It scares me big time just thinking about it.
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Comment #19 posted by Hope on August 30, 2009 at 18:03:08 PT

Kind of funny in the Rasmussen Report
"Unmarried adults are more critical of alcohol than those who are married."Kind of like that verse in Timothy that says, "Tell the older women not to drink too much wine."
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Comment #18 posted by herbdoc215 on August 30, 2009 at 18:00:44 PT

FoM, she's doing much better, thanks
Lucy is in ky with her kids doing the cardio-rehab religion...her second heart attack made a believer out of her. I'm still out here in Washington trying to keep our heads above water, just got back from L.A. and I was as unimpressed as I've ever been with anywhere...after a dozen job offers all I can say is I wouldn't live there for a million dollars a day, not to mention that the system there is screwed and I want no fight with the feds. I just keep my head down and pray for sanity to return. Peace, steve
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Comment #17 posted by Hope on August 30, 2009 at 17:58:52 PT

Comment 15
No puking your guts out.No sleeping and rolling in your own vomit.In front of your friends... or alone.If you over do it.More laughing. Less crying.Did I say, "Less puking"?No poisoning yourself dangerously, or even to death occasionally, slowly or quickly, sometimes, when one might pull the aforementioned "Over doing" it.
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Comment #16 posted by Hope on August 30, 2009 at 17:50:10 PT

Will Foster
It's very disturbing. I was stunned. I couldn't believe it and even worse... if true... he's been caged for a year and three months... in California... already.Will Foster was one of those early "Straws" that sort of "broke the camel's back" concerning tolerance of the War on Drugs, as far as I was concerned. Remember the candles? Many people were outraged and didn't stay quiet about it. There were candles burning for him on websites all over the net.What's going on? How can this be?
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Comment #15 posted by FoM on August 30, 2009 at 17:35:56 PT

It is good news. I remember when the Woodstock Generation decided Cannabis was better then alcohol. No hangover or acting stupid like can happen under the infuence of alcohol.
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Comment #14 posted by MikeC on August 30, 2009 at 17:30:02 PT

Re - Poll: Rasmussen Reports
"Younger adults are more likely than their elders to view alcohol as the more dangerous of the two. "That statement bodes well for the future of Marijuana reform. 
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Comment #13 posted by FoM on August 30, 2009 at 16:41:54 PT

Poll: Rasmussen Reports
51% Rate Alcohol More Dangerous Than MarijuanaFriday, August 28, 2009URL:
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Comment #12 posted by The GCW on August 30, 2009 at 16:27:13 PT

US CO: Colorado 
US CO: Colorado doctors advise on pot laws
 Webpage: 30 Aug 2009Source: Summit Daily News (CO)Copyright: 2007 Summit Daily NewsContact: doctors advise on pot laws 
Of the 10,000 medical-marijuana patients on the state's registry, 75 percent of those received their recommendations from one of only 15 doctors. 
By John Ingold
The Denver Post
Two doctors account for more than a third of the patients on Colorado's medical-marijuana registry, and five doctors account for more than 50 percent of the patients, according to statistics from the state health department.In all, of the 10,000 medical-marijuana patients on the state's registry, 75 percent of those received their recommendations from one of only 15 doctors.The clustering of so many patients on the registry from so few doctors has raised the suspicions of state officials."It's a cause for concern," said Jim Martin, executive director of the state Department of Public Health and Environment. "At least in any other area like this, we would want to be sure that the physicians are meeting the standards of care."State Attorney General John Suthers went a step further, suggesting the state Board of Medical Examiners investigate the top pot-recommending docs."The Health Department can question whether it's proper medicine to issue hundreds of certifications in one day and perhaps make some referrals to the medical board," Suthers said, referencing a statement by the state's chief medical officer during a recent hearing that one doctor signed for 200 patients in a single day.But cannabis advocates said the clustering is perfectly understandable, the result of doctors who specialize in a particular area. Medical-marijuana attorney Rob Corry said the doctors are "compassionate professionals" whose specialty naturally attracts patients seeking alternative forms of medicine.Read the rest at 
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Comment #11 posted by FoM on August 30, 2009 at 16:17:50 PT

It's good to see you. How is Lucy doing?I found this about Will Foster. I hope it helps.
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Comment #10 posted by herbdoc215 on August 30, 2009 at 16:09:49 PT

Hope, I to would like to know more...
about whats happening with Will foster and the whole story of whats happening??? I thought he was free and clear, I remember writing a letter to the governor of OK back in 90's. I can't believe they can cage a man for the rest of his life for growing his meds? How many more lives must this machine eat? I'm so tired of this...........peace, steve  
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Comment #9 posted by Hope on August 30, 2009 at 14:12:01 PT

Will Foster
I've been hearing bits and pieces of it, here and there around the Internet for several days now. It's very difficult to believe it's happening.
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Comment #8 posted by FoM on August 30, 2009 at 14:10:57 PT

I don't think that Islam is a scourge any more then Christianity is a scourge. The extremes of either religion are dangerous. Most people are good people but radicals make them all seem bad.
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Comment #7 posted by Hope on August 30, 2009 at 14:09:40 PT

You mean Will Foster?
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Comment #6 posted by quartermaster on August 30, 2009 at 13:57:47 PT:

medical cannabis
ban the republicans they are the domestic terrorist that plaque the whole of the USA. they are mean , without mercy,and mostly drinkers.arnold just sent the man back to oklahoma after he was free and clear in california. what a heartless bastard he has shown himself to be. they are a scourge on the face of the earth like islam
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Comment #5 posted by Hope on August 30, 2009 at 08:15:41 PT

Museman comment 3
Abusing people over "abusing" a plant definitely qualifies as one of those moronic ideas that show up in societies from time to time throughout history.How can they not see which is the worst of the two supposed wrongs? One is a lot more wrong than the other. Which one? One is a completely and totally imagined wrong. Why does it take even a minimum of cognitional effort to realize which one? One of the mysteries of life, I guess.
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Comment #4 posted by charmed quark on August 30, 2009 at 07:07:50 PT

ganjapreneurs we are soon going to set up state controlled "Alternative Treatment Centers" in NJ, I find it interesting to see the solutions in other states. This one seems pretty cool - arts&craft plus medical ganja.The article claims that the diversion of local grown cannabis from the black market to medical marijuana dispensaries is hurting the black market but helping the legal economy. Hard to believe as there aren't that many registered patients in Colorado. But interesting...
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Comment #3 posted by museman on August 29, 2009 at 18:07:02 PT

People are abused
"Certainly marijuana can be abused if used foolishly and if it falls into the wrong hands."Cannabis is used.The measure of reality; Cannabis use, medicinal, religious, and even 'recreational.'vs The prohibition propaganda and conjecture of 'abuse' is the twisted rewrite of language to serve the purpose and agenda of the power elite, in an attempt to justify the REAL abuse that occurs from they themselves inflicting their medieval 'justice' upon the relative innocence and established harmlessness of cannabis use, and cannabis users (distinguished from drinkers who smoke, and junkies who smoke -actual 'addicted' people).The question is, "How much longer are the citizens of Washington State, who by their own electoral right and power made the first step to sanity in relating to cananabis and its myriads of beneficial uses, by voting it into law, going to allow their government, whom they also supposedly elected into power, to dictate instead of serve?"FREE CANNABIS FOREVER..and my Sabbath offering; just remastered today...
Survival Is My Day Job
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Comment #2 posted by Hope on August 29, 2009 at 16:54:55 PT

Thanks, Ekim.
I like to keep up with whatever Howard is up to.
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Comment #1 posted by ekim on August 29, 2009 at 16:42:09 PT

Howards site is up 
COP on the HillStories from the week of August 28, 2009Somebody reads what I write: The Congressional Quarterly honored me recently, quoting part of a letter I wrote. Me thinks after three years, I am becoming an overnight success.  The entire Letter to the Editor from which CQ quotes is at the bottom.  If you click on ‘she states’ you can read the original news article.Behind the Lines for Tuesday, August 18, 2009 — 3 P.M. By David C. Morrison, Special to Congressional Quarterly“Terrorism, potential natural disasters, H1N1,” DHS’s Janet Napolitano replies when asked by WTOP 103.5 FM’s J.J. Green what worries her most, while refusing to prioritize threats like “ranking NFL football teams” — and check Queerty on her New York Times Magazine Q&A. “What planet is Janet Napolitano living on, when she states the United States and Mexico are winning the drug war?” retired Michigan cop Howard Wooldridge demands in The Windsor (Ont.) Star. Urging Napolitano to “peruse” an immigration report, The Phoenix New Times’ Stephen Lemons oozes hometown familiarity/contempt, adding: “Being that Nappy’s a lawyer, I’m pretty sure she can read.” Make hay while the sun shines:  Given the relatively relaxed pace of the Hill during the August recess, I learned my first year that the most efficient method to make presentations was to NOT make appointments. Thus, I feel very much like a Fuller brush salesman, going from door to door & asking if Legislative Aide Bill or Wendy has a few minutes. This week I made 38 presentations to staffers, including a brain-draining, record 12 on Thursday. Tired and happy I was.NOTE: The COP website is up, though much under construction. Please be patient. A talented volunteer is working on it as much as he can in between making a living. www.CitizensOpposingProhibition.orgSo how is drug war being won?
Windsor Star
Published: Monday, August 17, 2009Re: U.S., Mexico winning drug war, NapolitanoWhat planet is U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano living on, when she states the U.S. and Mexico are winning the drug war? My profession, police, has been slugging it out in the trenches for 40 years now.The results? Drugs are cheaper, stronger and much easier for our children to buy.We had body counts in Vietnam to show we're winning. Napolitano now uses how many kilograms and bullets seized. Despite 40 million victories -Americans arrested on drug charges -we live in a country saturated with drugs and drug dealers.When will we in the U.S. and Canada become as wise as my grandparents were in 1933 and repeal modern "Prohibition?"Howard Wooldridge Adamstown, Md.

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