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Marijuana Supporters Welcome a Tax Increase 
Posted by CN Staff on July 22, 2009 at 18:17:15 PT
By Jesse McKinley
Source: New York Times 
Oakland, Calif. -- Perhaps only in the sometimes hazy world of medical marijuana could higher taxes be considered good news.But sure enough, supporters of medical marijuana were pleasantly pleased Wednesday after Oakland voters overwhelmingly approved a huge tax increase — 15 times the former rate — on sales at the city’s handful of permitted medical marijuana dispensaries.
Believed to be the first of its kind, Measure F received nearly 80 percent of the vote, a landslide that pot professionals hailed as a significant step in the legitimization of the cannabis industry.“It’s one more victory in a big war,” said Richard Lee, president of Oaksterdam University, a downtown storefront where the aroma of marijuana pervades the sidewalk. “It’s a lot better than being arrested and thrown in jail.”Medical marijuana has been legal in California since 1996, but its dispensaries and their proprietors have periodically faced crackdowns from federal authorities who do not recognize the state law, which was passed as Proposition 215. Supporters of the drug’s medical use have been cheered, however, by recent remarks from Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. that those abiding by state law will not be made a target by federal agents.California, whose $26 billion budget crisis has dispirited many residents, has toyed with the idea of legalizing marijuana, with a bill that would legalize and tax the drug scheduled to be taken up by the Assembly later this year. The dispensaries already pay some $18 million a year in state sales tax, according to the Board of Equalization.Laura Thomas, deputy state director for the Drug Policy Alliance in San Francisco, which lobbies for changes in drug policy, said the recession was forcing many states to consider “untouchable topics” as potential revenue streams. “In hard budget times people are willing to be more creative,” Ms. Thomas said.In Oakland, Measure F raises the tax on “gross receipts” at a handful of dispensaries to $18 per $1,000 worth of goods sold, and is expected to raise about $300,000 in new taxes. That is not much money — the city just closed an $83 million budget gap — but even so, a spokesman for Mayor Ron Dellums said the mayor was grateful for “all measures that will help with our budget situation.”For Mr. Lee, who plans to introduce a ballot measure this week — with an eye toward getting it on the ballot in 2010 — seeking to legalize personal, nonmedical use of the drug, the election victory means he would pay about $42,000 more in taxes. Not that he minds.“This tax,” he said, “is a lot cheaper than lawyers.”A version of this article appeared in print on July 23, 2009, on page A18 of the New York edition.Source: New York Times (NY)Author: Jesse McKinleyPublished: July 22, 2009Copyright: 2009 The New York Times CompanyContact: letters nytimes.comWebsite: Medical Marijuana Archives
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Comment #48 posted by Hope on July 24, 2009 at 10:47:45 PT
:0)You're right, too and something else you said was a good answer to something I'd been thinking about off and on this morning. Enemies? Are the prohbitionists our "Enemies"? I don't like that word. Enemies are not a good thing to have. I don't want them. But what are they?I saw it when you said "Those who oppose us". That's much better than "Enemies". They are the opposition. Those who oppose us.Thank you.Yes, I know ... some of them, those who oppose us, are quite capable of killing and abusing people in the name of their "War" And then they turn around and wax all self-righteous about it, to add insult to injury. More and more, more scales are falling from more people's eyes. 
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Comment #47 posted by Hope on July 24, 2009 at 10:34:56 PT
Comment 24
Lol! That's so funny.... I truly laughed out loud. 
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Comment #46 posted by FoM on July 24, 2009 at 09:17:14 PT
That's ok. I understand but I have learned to know why certain things get stirred up and that red flag pops up. Not everything is done for the good.
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Comment #45 posted by FoM on July 24, 2009 at 09:04:49 PT
I thought of something funny. Obama probably smokes any cigarette he can get his hands on. LOL! Poor guy having to sneak a cigarette but that society these days.
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Comment #44 posted by Vincent on July 24, 2009 at 09:02:06 PT:
FoM and Hope
Forgive my anger, of course you guys are right. Whenever I see garbage like that statement that the Drug Czar may or may not have said, it really frustrates me. I think our opponents talk like that on purpose, just to get a reaction. You're right...once I lose my cool, then I'm done. 
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Comment #43 posted by rchandar on July 24, 2009 at 08:48:17 PT:
Obama's Favorite Cigarette
Can anyone tell me, what kind of cigarette our President smokes? I'm pack a day, and am willing to switch to Obama's brand--that is, if it's not harsher than the Marlboro Ultralites I smoke.-rchandar
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Comment #42 posted by rchandar on July 24, 2009 at 08:45:26 PT:
Schedule I
I think it's unlikely they will give up Schedule I so easily. The DEA has a knee-jerk reaction to this demand: no. Should the Feds decide to admit that MJ has medicinal value, the next immediate motion would be a set of FDA regulations as to how MJ can be distributed and what chemical and cultivation rules are deemed acceptable: meaning, a government study which will cost money. It would probably serve us better to approach this via legislation in Congress whereby we could get enacted a law allowing the Federal government to respect the rights of states to administer MMJ. Schedule I will have to go later, because there's not the debate precedent in the Obama Administration.But I guarantee, the DEA will not give it up so soon. Sometimes pressure is a good thing, but remember they have unlimited power over the world of "drugs."Marijuana is not a "drug": it isn't addictive and will not kill you. People should follow their hearts, not laws. That's the true test of a "democracy," when people have that basic freedom--to choose.--rchandar
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Comment #41 posted by afterburner on July 24, 2009 at 07:10:41 PT
I Like what Rob Kampia Said,
"We need to make sure the drug czar receives the message loud and clear that the anti-science Bush era is over."
--Obama's drug czar declares marijuana has no medical value - Stop the Drug War (DRCNet) action. Respect for science, for people, for elected leaders (who are working to make a change).
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Comment #40 posted by FoM on July 24, 2009 at 05:39:37 PT
Angel Raich
Yesterday Angel wrote a long e-mail and told us where her health is right now. She is very sick. The brain tumor is spreading. Let us never forget this lovely woman who fought so very hard during a difficult administration for medical marijuana and all of us. I'm sure she would appreciate an e-mail from us. 
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Comment #39 posted by FoM on July 24, 2009 at 05:10:04 PT
Just a Comment
I know there are people who really are upset because we have Obama as President. That's fine. What I find upsetting is when people stir other people up into a frenzy. We can turn off this administration or we can work with this administration. We didn't have that luxury under Bush. We will accomplish good things if we don't become belligerent. Ghandi was peaceful. We can be that way too. 
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Comment #38 posted by Paint with light on July 24, 2009 at 02:07:56 PT
two topics
OneI don't worry about what Kerlikowske supposedly said.Even if true it doesn't matter with the inertia our movement has.If the "marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefits", is repeated by Obama and becomes the mantra of his administration, then I will worry.But I won't give up.I will just fight harder.I look at this as another opportunity for the truth to come out.If Gil said something stupid then it is our duty to educate him and anyone who hears and believes him.The difference between the past and now is evident in.....topic twoI have missed a few threads recently so I don't know if this has been discussed but Oregon has some good ideas on cannabis at the web site what I understand some of the initial proposals are;cannabis to be sold in liquor stores just like alcohol,no tax on medicinal cannabis,no license needed for hemp production,and tax would only be on for-profit sales for recreational purposes.That sounds a lot like what I was proposing a few months ago.It is not quite equal with tomatoes but it is a lot better than what we have now.Don't anyone abandon ship, the iceberg is melting.Legal like alcohol.
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Comment #37 posted by Hope on July 23, 2009 at 21:42:46 PT
In comment 34, you said, "I know that we're supposed to be peaceful and not advocate action..."But we do advocate action... just not violence.It's the violence and injustice of prohibition that is part of what we want to end.There has to be "Action", of course! But let it be peaceful, civilized, and righteous action. No more violence among humans over this plant. No more killing of humans and animals and futures and families over this amazing and beneficial plant. Yet, as long as there is legal and government enforced prohibition of the plant... the violence, the destruction, the deaths, the persecutions and loss goes on and on. Every week that prohibition continues means more violence, fear, hatred, persecution, lies, robberies, burglaries, home invasions and death that would not be happening if it were not for the vicious prohibition of a plant that many people believe is their natural and God given right to possess and use.We're closer than we were to ending this terrible injustice. Keep your eyes on the prize... and don't let anger and hatred distract you and for your sake, and ours too... don't let yourself stew in the terrible juices your body produces when you dwell on hatred. It's natural to be very angry. It's natural to want to lash out and fight against those who oppress and persecute. But maybe we can make it work this way. Let's not give up when we're this close. I know your anger comes from the insult of being ruled and literally enslaved by the arrogant and foolish who keep prohibition alive and well. But we have to keep using reason, logic, and good sense to fight this. Lashing out and violence always seem to have ungodly "Collateral" damage and a man or woman of good conscience should be horrified at that possibility. Don't let them push you to throw away your sense of reason. It is by reason and sanity that we will win this struggle. I'm sure of it.Better to be calm, in control of ourselves, and rational, but strong, resolved, sane and reasonable, than to have blood on our hands because of turning to violence and destruction. You'd hate that, having blood or collateral damage on your hands... no matter how righteous you feel about the cause. I'm sure of that, too. Yes, I know you want to protect people, our families nd friends, liberty, freedom, the young, and the old and everyone, from the oppressors, but I think we have a chance of doing it peacefully. I believe we can. I hope we can.
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Comment #36 posted by John Tyler on July 23, 2009 at 20:49:16 PT
Yes we cannabis.
I’m not too concerned about what these guys say. We know it’s lies and even they know it's lies, but politics makes them say it. (Some kind of sick politics to be sure) (I couldn’t be somebody like that.) Anyway, the real change is going on behind the scenes. What kind of rules or procedures get changed, who and what gets shifted in the organizational chart and which budgets get reduced. Who has the clout? (Remember the Drug Czar office was downgraded in importance.) They can and will keep saying stupid things, but the people are finally beginning to speak with one voice, and they are saying, “end cannabis prohibition now”.  We have the political guys’ attention. We can win. We have to win, but we have to win the right way, with good Karma. Yes we cannabis!
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Comment #35 posted by FoM on July 23, 2009 at 18:08:33 PT
There is no proof so far that the drug czar said what was in the article. There have been mistakes made in articles since Obama became President more then once. I don't think a revolution is necessary because we are getting closer everyday. Change is happening little by little. As long as we are going forward I'm happy.
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Comment #34 posted by Vincent on July 23, 2009 at 17:59:42 PT:
Che Guevara--where are you?
Listen Hope, FoM, Runruff and everybody else...I know that we're supposed to be peaceful and not advocate action but, we've been trying it the civilized way for Seventy years and just look at what our new, "progressive" drug czar said. Well, let me shut up. I've made my feelings clear to everyone already anyway.
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Comment #33 posted by FoM on July 23, 2009 at 15:06:46 PT
One More Thing
All day I have been looking for more about what the drug czar said and I found this horrible video about 2 people around 60 years old being murdered in the Fresno area.
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Comment #32 posted by FoM on July 23, 2009 at 14:53:48 PT
Sinsemilla Jones 
Thank you. I have watched this happen more then one time since Obama was sworn in. I require proof not hearsay before I will know it's true. 
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Comment #31 posted by Sinsemilla Jones on July 23, 2009 at 14:49:33 PT
Good suggestion FoM
There's no mention of the statement anywhere else that I've found, either, that didn't reference the Fresno Bee.Others that covered "Operation Save our Sierra" don't mention that quote, but have different quotes from G.K., and there is a half sentence video clip of the Drug Czar from the local ABC, with no questioning of med mj - hope it is a misquote or severely taken out of context, and could well bee. Maybee someone at the Bee was buzzed. (Argh!)
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Comment #30 posted by Canis420 on July 23, 2009 at 14:30:57 PT:
Gil's Statement
I justed recieved an email from MPP echoing the statement you posted attributed to GK. They are calling for action and have an easy way to send Obama a letter, which I did, expressing my dissapointment in this administration on this issue
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Comment #29 posted by FoM on July 23, 2009 at 14:04:55 PT
Just a Suggestion
I have only seen the drug czar's comment in the Fresno Bee by Marc Benjamin. Since Obama was elected I have seen articles that anger people and often they are wrong in the end. Maybe people should write to the author of the article and ask him did he hear the drug czar say what was in the article or was it hearsay? I don't have an e-mail except how to write a LTE. Here it is.letters
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Comment #28 posted by Sinsemilla Jones on July 23, 2009 at 13:12:11 PT
Stupidity is dangerous and has no benefit.
Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit???!!!The DEA is dangerous and has no benefit!The ONDCP is dangerous and has no benefit!The Drug Czar is dangerous and has no benefit!Ignorance is dangerous and has no benefit!Cannabis isn't dangerous, Gil, you are.On this, the 70th day since the Drug Czar declared an end to the War On Drugs.But not an end to the War On People.
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Comment #27 posted by FoM on July 23, 2009 at 12:37:55 PT
I look for articles that are not by Fox but this was on the top of google news all by itself so I had to use it unfortunately. I don't ever check out anything concering Fox and very seldom CNN anymore.
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Comment #26 posted by dongenero on July 23, 2009 at 12:24:24 PT
let me go get my anti-bacterial hand soap before I visit that Fox News link.
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Comment #25 posted by FoM on July 23, 2009 at 12:18:24 PT
News Article From
California's $1.4 Billion Pot Tax Hopes May Be Up in Smoke***California's tax board says the state could reap about $1.4 billion by taxing their biggest cash crop -- marijuana -- but their estimate appears to be based on hazy "studies" conducted by marijuana advocates.By Joseph AbramsThursday, July 23, 2009URL:
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Comment #24 posted by Canis420 on July 23, 2009 at 12:13:17 PT:
I called
the ONDCP and complained about the lies this office is continuing to perpetuate
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Comment #23 posted by josephlacerenza on July 23, 2009 at 11:58:08 PT
My 2 cents
The Oakland community overwhelmingly voted for this "tax". I just wish the RICH could get their collective heads out of the poop shed and realize what many in OUR community understand, we need to help each other!!!!! One way to help is to pay taxes!!! I hear people bitch about taxes. Most of the time its the same ones who seem to pay nothing into the system (like me, I make too little). WE seem to be the only willing group to do OUR financial part!!!Why is this such a hard concept to get. Yes, they (the politicians) will spend OUR money on $h!t we don't want. If they continue, vote them out. Max Bauc-ass (D MT) will not be getting another vote from me!!! He wants to stand in the way of single payer because it is not a "good" idea. It has nothing to do with the amount of money he has received from insurers, no conflict of interest there!!!!Please, let us not sound like the top 1% belly aching about the taxes they have to pay, and lets instead say this is a small part I can do to help my fellow AMERICAN!!!!FREE CANNABIS FOR ALL
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Comment #22 posted by runruff on July 23, 2009 at 11:45:17 PT
This is some powerful plant!
Just look at the dust-up it is creating!We now at this point have an undeclared civil war in this country. It has been going on under the radar for decades and has sufaced for what it is only in the last decade.This federal police action on it's own people has all the earmarks of war.Killing the enemy [the American people]Taking [forefiting] the bounty. The "spoils of war" as it was refered to in ancient Rome. Imprisonment, in the millions.Families broken and destroyed, in the millions.High tech military weaponry used.A major plank in political platforms.This and more spells out a real war not a metaphoric war.Millions have used, is using, will use, this plant.And yet the war goes on!
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Comment #21 posted by HempWorld on July 23, 2009 at 11:08:37 PT
From MPP: 
Dear CNews Readers and posters:“Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit.”
— White House drug czar Gil Kerlikowske, at a Fresno, Calif., press conference yesterdayNot again.In fact — and it's getting a little tiresome to keep repeating it — the esteemed Institute of Medicine, American Nurses Association, American Public Health Association, American Academy of HIV Medicine, Leukemia & Lymphoma Society, Lymphoma Foundation of America, American Academy of HIV Medicine, and dozens of other medical organizations recognize marijuana's medical value.What's more, President Obama's own statements on the campaign trail about marijuana's medical efficacy run counter to his new drug czar's statements yesterday. We need to stop this in its tracks. Would you please speak out against this ridiculous, outdated argument:1. Please use MPP's online action center to e-mail the president about the drug czar's statement.2. Please call the drug czar's office at (202) 395-6700 to politely complain that we're still hearing this sort of nonsense. We need to make sure the drug czar receives the message loud and clear that the anti-science Bush era is over.Thank you,Rob Kampia
Executive Director
Marijuana Policy Project
Washington, D.C.
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Comment #20 posted by dongenero on July 23, 2009 at 10:33:11 PT
Gil's quote....
"Legalization is not in the president's vocabulary, and it's not in mine," he said.Then I presume "losing" must be in their vocabulary. Because that war is lost and has been for over 70 years.How exactly, does a government win a war, waged against her own people?
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Comment #19 posted by HempWorld on July 23, 2009 at 09:44:29 PT
Even more patents, 30 of them, when you
search with the term cannabinoid ... instead of cannabinoids!
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Comment #18 posted by HempWorld on July 23, 2009 at 09:41:11 PT
Sorry the link didn't work because 
it was cut off at Canna instead of Cannabinoids. Here is the complete URL:
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Comment #17 posted by FoM on July 23, 2009 at 09:39:06 PT
I never thought that we would go in this direction. 
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Comment #16 posted by HempWorld on July 23, 2009 at 09:38:08 PT
If, according to (paid to lie) Kerlikowske mari
juana has no medical benefits, then why has the US Gov't patented cannabinoids and why is marinol in schedule III? [new window][preview][close preview]
... carboxylic acid from plant material using a solvent and converting the Ä9THC carboxylic acid to Ä9THC, and wherein charcoal filtration removes cannabinoids ... Cached -More from Patent and Trademark Office [new window][preview][close preview]
A process for separating (−)-Ä 9-trans-tetrahydrocannabinol from a mixture comprising it and other cannabinoids, wherein the process is a preparative separation ... Cached -More from Patent and Trademark Office
Reissue Applications Filed - OG Date: 12 July 2005 [new window][preview][close preview]
... Record: JWC Environmental, Attorney or Agent: Neil B. Siegel, Ex. Gp: 3725 6,383,513, Re. S.N. 11/133,484, May 19, 2005, Cl./Sub 424/450, COMPOSITIONS COMPRISING CANNABINOIDS ... Cached -More from Patent and Trademark Office [new window][preview][close preview]
Bicyclic cannabinoids: Alexandros Makriyannis, Watertown, Mass. (US); Spyridon P. Nikas, Waltham, Mass. (US); Atmaram D. Khanolkar, Coventry, R.I. (US); Ganeshsingh A. Thakur ... Cached -More from Patent and Trademark Office
Reissue Applications Notice - OG Date: 13 February 2001 [new window][preview][close preview]
... Owner of Record: Inventor, Attorney or Agent: Sue Z. Shaper, Ex. Gp.: 1724 5,847,128, Re. S.N. 09/731,921, Dec. 08, 2000, Cl. 544/150, WATER SOLUBLE DERIVATIVES OF CANNABINOIDS ... Cached -More from Patent and Trademark Office
Patentee Index [new window][preview][close preview]
Makriyannis, Alexandros; Nikas, Spyridon P.; Khanolkar, Atmaram D.; Thakur, Ganeshsingh A.; and Lu, Dai, to University of Connecticut Bicyclic cannabinoids 07446229 Cl. 568-326. Cached -More from Patent and Trademark Office
USPTO Cannabinoids Patents
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Comment #15 posted by dongenero on July 23, 2009 at 09:31:22 PT
If you want to tax it.......
then legalize and tax recreational use in some way.We don't really need to tax people for an herb, on their way out of this life.
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Comment #14 posted by dongenero on July 23, 2009 at 09:29:07 PT
it's just "good business"
Yes, the entrepreneurs of "the greatest country" in the world and the very government herself will soon line up to make money off the backs of our seriously or terminally ill citizens. God, I love this country!Hey, it's just good business, right? Good Capitalism?
How's that idea been working for us the lately? 
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Comment #13 posted by FoM on July 23, 2009 at 09:21:28 PT
I agree. My personal feelings today have not been good. I am so sad after reading the one article in the WSJ. I felt sick to my stomach after reading it. It takes a lot to make me feel sick. 
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Comment #12 posted by dongenero on July 23, 2009 at 09:10:07 PT
taxing medical marijuana
I don't think it is good for the government to take advantage of seriously or terminally ill people to graft off tax dollars. It's pretty sick really.
It's a plant hat can grow in anyone's yard, essentially for free. What a gift from the maker!Many people in these medical situations are already facing difficult financial hardships due to the crap policies of insurance companies or from being under-insured, or from being dropped by their insurance or employment and by association, their insurance.I think medical marijuana proponents will accept it because, sometimes when the big bully is going to beat your a$$, you give up your lunch money. Well, I imagine seriously ill patients will take their a$$ kicking from their bully government if we all insist it be that way. We, as voters and US citizens, may all want to check that "high road" we're on. Hitting people who are fighting for life or for some relief, with a bunch of taxes on their medicine is pretty unconscionable I would say.Of course we do it on all of their prescription medicine too but, that doesn't make it right.
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Comment #11 posted by museman on July 23, 2009 at 08:09:56 PT
The guy is a cop, what the hell do people expect? If you ask the fox to guard the henhouse, the fox gets fat, and the chickens don't know what hit 'em.Mr. O is a politician. Nuff said.They are all criminals, from the moment they swear to uphold the morality of military for the sake of their rich masters. The crimes against humanity and the earth will not go unpunished, but neither will they cease until a significant amount of americans stop feeding them with their compliance, willing slavery to the beast of mammon, and continue to block the seeing of reality with their 'show' of choice.We have travled so far from the reality of creation into this make believe hell that very few benefit from (I don't consider 'weekends' and beer to be of any benefit to anyone except the masters who want everyone stupid), that getting the earth and its people back on some course resembling reality is never going to happen by just voting in one rich mofo after another. The history is revealing, the record is clear and obvious to anyone who isn't in denial, yet a high percentage of those who claim to be 'fighting for liberty' jump at nearly every BS compromise handed down from the masters table, and the results are absolutely same old, same old.People have the right idea with the initiative process, its the only constitutional power of the people that actually causes change, but it can't stop with issues like medicinal M, it has to be taken into the very substance of constitutional law to the point that the people take the INITIATIVE to reclaim the constitution from the false interpreters known as lawyers, and all the judges, prosecutors, and politicians who hold the common ground of OUR LAW in their exclusive hands.Human beings are possessed with such great inherent powers, that incredible acts of war, destruction and falsification of the truth has been necessary to constrain those individual abilities from coming to fruition.But within those inherent faculties is the ability to see past the emperors invisible clothes, and to pass that information along so that others can be cured of institutional blindness, and (falsely) justified bondage to the elite. The truth has been released...again, but unless they can create a controlled armageddon (lots of contingency plans in place, like Cheyenne Mountain...) they aren't going to get it back into the box of carefully maintained ignorance and denial so diligently 'taught' in our 'academic' institutions, and liberty is as real and in hand as one is willing to stand and acknowlege.The progress that the people have made is not reflected in our s/elected 'representatives' but in the INITIATIVE that is taken by individuals and groups of individuals, whose leaders are Truth, Freedom, Love, and Right Knowledge, not some trumped up guy (or gal) in a suit and tie telling us 'how it is.' (with armies to back 'em up).Wake up americaLEGALIZE FREEDOM
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Comment #10 posted by afterburner on July 23, 2009 at 08:09:14 PT
Could Codex Alimentarius Deadline Be behind Gil?
{ "Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit," Kerlikowske said in downtown Fresno while discussing Operation SOS -- Save Our Sierra -- a multiagency effort to eradicate marijuana in eastern Fresno County. }Billions of People Expected to Die Under Current Codex Alimentarius Guidelines [link not working]alternate link of you have been following the federal and international manipulation of food & herbs (as well as pharmaceuticals). This article on the threat of Codex to your health gives you a chance to take action for positive change.
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Comment #9 posted by FoM on July 23, 2009 at 07:39:27 PT
Just My 2 Cents
I am holding back criticism of the drug czar until I can be sure he said that. I have been looking for a video. Someone must have had a camera in this day and age and recorded his words. The President Said:Excerpt: In an interview last March with the Medford Mail-Tribune, then-Senator Obama said he supported the use of medical marijuana and that he would not interfere in state medical marijuana laws if elected president."As for medical marijuana ... I'm not familiar with all the details of the initiative that was passed, but I think the basic concept of using medical marijuana for the same purposes and with the same controls as other drugs prescribed by doctors, I think that's entirely appropriate," he said."I'm not going to be using Justice Department resources to try to circumvent state laws on this issue," Obama said.Complete Article:
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Comment #8 posted by MikeC on July 23, 2009 at 07:31:21 PT
"Way to loose the confidence of the people there Doctor Gil! I liked you at first, now you sound like you have been backroom indoctrinated."My thoughts exactly!
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Comment #7 posted by runruff on July 23, 2009 at 07:28:37 PT
Hey Dr. Gil! [tongue in cheek]
Dangerous?-where's the bodies?Addictive?-Needs to update his definition of addicting.No medical Benefits? What are you going to believe, your own bureaucratic dogma or thousands of years of recorded history, The millions who claim relief or the thousands of doctors who advocate the use of cannabis and call it good medicine. Way to loose the confidence of the people there Doctor Gil! I liked you at first, now you sound like you have been backroom indoctrinated.
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Comment #6 posted by runruff on July 23, 2009 at 07:18:55 PT
Hope , re; Growers!
Growers even sound better that what they called me on my first bust, "manufacturer". They said I manufactured "marijuana"! This is how they stretch it to make it sound like I was up to something evil. They could use the proper term, "cultivating" or "nurturing" or gardening or farming but manufacturing? It is the equivalent of trying too hard."Me thinks the Lady doth protest a bit too loudly"-The Bard
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Comment #5 posted by runruff on July 23, 2009 at 06:37:13 PT
Well here it is folks, WoD 2009!
My man, Obama is looking every bit the hypocrite that Bubba Clinton was!What is with Gil? He has seen that congress is moving toward leniency. Thirteen states and the District of Columbia with about 6 more pending legislation for medical cannabis. Gil [the doctor] says there is no medical use for cannabis. I think if Gil could have only alerted the Chinese 5,000 years ago, he might have saved the people of that country from a lot of misery. He is saying that doctors from the 20Th century on backward were all committing malpractice by administering cannabis to their patients, even the CHILDREN! Oh my!I was hoping for more honesty and sanity in this country under Obama but newwwwww!The prohibitionist are the criminals. If America had a backbone we would rise up and imprison all those who sought to profit off of human misery. A war on Americans by it's own government is treason and should be treated as such. These rottweilers in government need to be silenced and put away! They can't, won't, prove their claims and they cannot prove our claims to be wrong, so they are simply saying by their actions that MIGHT MAKES RIGHT!
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Comment #4 posted by MikeC on July 23, 2009 at 06:05:12 PT
Drug Czar Says...
"Marijuana is dangerous and has no medicinal benefit," Kerlikowske said...Resign from your position Gil! We don't need another shill for the prohibitionists deciding what's best for the people of his country.
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Comment #3 posted by FoM on July 23, 2009 at 04:39:55 PT
Two Related Articles About California
Drug Czar Says U.S. Won't Back Pot Legalization***With 'Med Pot' Raids Halted, Selling Grass Grows Greener
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Comment #2 posted by FoM on July 22, 2009 at 19:21:51 PT
John Tyler 
I always loved that song. 
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Comment #1 posted by John Tyler on July 22, 2009 at 18:56:14 PT
OK One city at a time then
Once one city tries it and starts making some money from it and things are good, other cities and localities may want to join in. If it looks OK then the whole state California can go legal, then the West Coast, then the upper Mid-west, then the Northeast, and finally the South. Yeah. I can’t wait. 
Here is the soundtrack to think about it
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