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  Weed for Medicine: Regulate The Crop

Posted by CN Staff on April 02, 2007 at 05:30:25 PT
Editorial 
Source: Seattle Times 

Seattle, WA -- In 1998, nearly 59 percent of the voters of Washington approved Initiative 698, legalizing marijuana for medical uses. But our medical-marijuana regime has problems, and the bill now working its way through the Legislature solves only the lesser parts of them.The key to this issue is the acceptance that marijuana has been shown to control pain and to help seriously ill people keep down food and medicine. Both sponsors of Senate Bill 6032 — Sens. Jeanne Kohl-Welles, D-Seattle, and Bob McCaslin, R-Spokane — have known people close to them who have used the drug in a medical way.
This page supported I-698 as a measure to alleviate human suffering, and supports a slight broadening of the allowable uses. We oppose the general legalization of marijuana, but admit its medicinal effects.Unfortunately, the federal law has been applied by a long string of U.S. attorneys general to allow no uses of marijuana. Because of that, the state cannot do what it really should, which is to regulate the growing, testing, packaging and sale of cannabis as a prescription drug.Instead, our voter-written state law disingenuously instructs police to ignore the possession of a 60-day supply by certain sick people, without saying how much of a supply that is or how they are supposed to get it.SB 6032 would have the state Department of Health define a presumptive 60-day supply, telling police to ignore amounts of no more than that if held by a certified patient. The bill would tell police to ignore growing operations, providing each operation served one certified patient only.Patient advocates say these proposals are too restrictive. The supply ought to be set by the doctor, and the law ought to allow two or more patients to get medication from the same source.Legislators should do their best for these patients, who are too sick to worry over the details. They should pass the best bill they can.Source: Seattle Times (WA)Published: Monday, April 2, 2007 Copyright: 2007 The Seattle Times CompanyContact: opinion seatimes.comWebsite: http://www.seattletimes.com/Related Articles:Medical Marijuana Bill Stirs Debate http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread22810.shtmlACLU, Some Patients at Odds Over WA Measurehttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread22807.shtmlSenate Bill Seeks To Clarify Medical Marijuana Lawhttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread22792.shtml

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Comment #51 posted by FoM on April 05, 2007 at 10:03:23 PT

publicbulldog 
Thank you. I don't like fighting because fighting only causes more war.
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Comment #50 posted by publicbulldog on April 05, 2007 at 09:58:15 PT:

flame off
flame off guys
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Comment #49 posted by FoM on April 05, 2007 at 09:56:26 PT

OK Enough
This is a boxing match and not of interest so no more comments. That does mean stop. This is a private forum but read by many. This should be handled in a private e-mail between the two of you but not here.
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Comment #48 posted by publicbulldog on April 05, 2007 at 09:55:02 PT:

Looney
How looney would I be if I sent the e-mails that Steve Sarich had a caregiver to the media.
None of them know about the e-mails.
That would be big news....
Can you see that I just got tired of this guy lieing and hit the chin line.
The study he claims he did promotes state involvement which he does not support.
The taped phone calls reveal he wanted me to stop doing the study so he could negotiate with law enforcement.
You would have to be in my shoes to understand.,you would have to read the e-mails and listen to the recordings.
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Comment #47 posted by whig on April 05, 2007 at 09:54:34 PT

publicbulldog
FoM has said she doesn't like flame wars here.
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Comment #46 posted by publicbulldog on April 05, 2007 at 09:44:32 PT:

Steve Sarich
1.Did not get his bill passed.
2.Kept the records of 1200 patients at a site where he was taking advantage of the law,got caught,and their records were confiscated.
3.never wanted to do a study he tried to take credit for.
4.I have e-mails and phone recordings of Steve Sarich lieing about just about everything.
If antone wants to play impartial and look at these e-mails I would be glad to send them to you.
Notice Steve Does not deny that he had a caregiver.
Because he knows I have the e-mails.
The news media is not aware he had a caregiver...
That can change...
the legislature trust me because I was a small business advocate for years and I have a reputation for telling it like it is.
They listened to my reasoning on p-patches,and denied his changes.
They were line itemed off the Bill.
Steve Sarich and John Markes lost the arguement.
I don't trust Cannacare ,and I have not since may of last year when I caught Sarich lieing.
There would be no problem at all soliciting people with beefs about Sarich on this website.
He has left a trail thru Washington.
On my website is information that cannacare could have posted but did not because Steve had to make back room deals with the Counties to get an endorsements for his ID systems,and teaching classes.
When he denies that I have it on tape.
yes Steve Sarich lied so much me and a friend taped his conversations just to listen to his lies.
Wanna here them...
Wanna see the e-mails that show he had a caregiver.
You let meknow and we will settle this here and now.
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Comment #45 posted by whig on April 05, 2007 at 09:20:35 PT

#41, set aside
Fully joined, lack of jurisdiction, no opinion.
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Comment #44 posted by whig on April 05, 2007 at 09:18:13 PT

Steve Sarich and publicbulldog
I don't think FoM wants us to carry on here. I believe that publicbulldog is being honest, that does not mean his complaints are accurate. I don't claim to know the whole story, I don't need to know it. I don't live in Washington state. I don't know if anyone else on CNews cares about Cannacare.
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Comment #43 posted by Steve Sarich on April 05, 2007 at 06:49:41 PT:

John Worthington
I was just made aware that John Worthington is slandering me, along with several other well known medical marijuana advocates here in Washington. John has made himself the public laughing stock of the entire Washington state medical marijuana community with his wild conspiracy theories. I'm not the only one that he's attacked, but I'm certainly his favorite target. Whenever my name appears in a newspaper, you can be sure that John will have a new, and ever more bizarre, conspiracy theory ready and waiting.I confess...CannaCare has a some ex-military members. So what exactly is that supposed to prove? What type of patient group of any kind would not have ex-military members? Are ex-military people somehow suspect in John's mind? This is just too twisted. One media contact called me on Monday regarding the new bill that's currently in our legislature. As an aside, the reporter asked me if John Worthington was really as loony as he sounded on the phone. Apparently John was calling everyone in the press with some other crazy conspiracy theory. He's now made himself persona non grata with state legislators too. They really don't like being threatened. We had to calm down some of these people and let them know that John Worthington does not represent the medical marijuana community in any way, shape or form. I just wish that John would put all this energy into doing something productive and quit slandering those that are. I always hesitate to post a response to anything John has to say because I know it will just bring on more threats, accusations and insults...and more conspiracy theories. I planned a raid on myself by the Feds simply to get media attention? Does anyone actually believe this stuff?Steve SarichCannaCare
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Comment #42 posted by publicbulldog on April 04, 2007 at 22:42:12 PT:

Good night Whig
Thanks for letting me vent about this I feel better.
I will give yall a break for a while.
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Comment #41 posted by whig on April 04, 2007 at 22:17:00 PT

in legal parlance
this is ex parte. There is nobody here representing Steve Sarich or Cannacare. I think I would recommend people avoid them, based on this testimony.
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Comment #40 posted by whig on April 04, 2007 at 22:12:29 PT

publicbulldog
Please forgive my interrogation. I needed to know whether you were being honest.
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Comment #39 posted by whig on April 04, 2007 at 22:10:22 PT

publicbulldog
I believe you.
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Comment #38 posted by publicbulldog on April 04, 2007 at 21:52:14 PT:

DID I SNITCH?
How does that work.
I snitch and he is not arrested?Whig you are a contrarian.
So you think I told On Sarich, to have my medical marijuana plants destroyed ,my kids put up against a wall searched and terrorized,and then nothing happens to Sarich.I will be polite.You make no sense whatsoever Whig.
They asked if I would testify against Sarich.
I told them I would not,and I still wont.
That does not mean I will not take Sarich to task for his poor decision making,even to the point of accusing him of being involved with the feds.
When you refuse to listen to reason and continue to take risks with other peoples' lives you have to be questioned.
There are people whom accuse him of setting up a rico act recruiting scam.
I did not even know what rico act was until someone whose information i am sure has been turned over to the feds told me.
Look whig Sarich could have done what he was doing with 90 plants and been under a Federal threshold.
He could have taught his class had them all take cuttings right off his mothers and had them take them out that day.
Sarich knew about the Federal threshold,and ignored the advice of several people including a prominent federal attorney.
He told me he was doing this but I caught him lying and quit.
There is an e-mail trail of all of this by the way.If I wanted to be safe and keep the people around me safe I would have listened to the federal attorney.
Sarich did not listen to the federal Attorney or half a dozen other ex-cannacare members whose information happens to be in a federal database by the way.
So whig ,why would I go thru the trouble of warning people about his risky behavior,getting 1200 people into a federal data base if I was a Fed.
Why would I take him to task on his risky decision making,and chastise him for 1200 medical marijuana patients data being exposed with his risky decisions..
Why ?
Whig you make no sense whatsoever.
Your contrarian brain is in the trunk of your patrol car.
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Comment #37 posted by whig on April 04, 2007 at 21:51:52 PT

Must see TV
http://tinyurl.com/yuzlzs
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Comment #36 posted by whig on April 04, 2007 at 21:33:51 PT

Now is the time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbUtL_0vAJk
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Comment #35 posted by whig on April 04, 2007 at 21:32:47 PT

publicbulldog
Did you snitch?
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Comment #34 posted by afterburner on April 04, 2007 at 21:17:59 PT

OT: FoM Makes a Difference in the Blog-sphere
Blog-ability devaluing rights, and writing
http://tinyurl.com/23rr3m
Hamilton Spectator, Canada - Mar 31, 2007
By Joan Smith. "This week, a well-known American blogger launched an unprecedented attack on the forum she helped create."This article shows why we need a strong moderator to keep peace and order here at CNews.
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Comment #33 posted by publicbulldog on April 04, 2007 at 21:14:53 PT:

I was busted the Same day as Sarich
I was the Cannacare "associate" that was arrested on the same day.
They came to my house and said Zack Joy(federally indicted) told them I was Steve Sarich's partner and I had 100 plants.
They found 6 plants and 20 -e-mails that proved I was not with Cannacare anymore.
Sarich had a caregiver and could not grow anything.
Nothing happened to him.
He becomes a media star.
But in all of his interviews he lies about a Study and doesnt tell people he had a caregiver.
He lies so much I want to puke on his shoes.
Go ahaed standup for him whig.
Lets see where you stand when it happens again.
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Comment #32 posted by publicbulldog on April 04, 2007 at 21:07:15 PT:

whig
So you think Keeping medical records and contact information for 1200 patients at the same location where you grow 1500 plants while someone else grows for you,while you grow for everyopne else, is a safe decision.
I don't.
I have never thought so that is why I quit Cannacare.
Why do you stand up for him whig.
1200 people are now in a federal data base because of him.I tried to warn him but he was intent on taking risks with other people's lives.
Sarich is irresponsible.
The Washington State legislature has been warned about him and his grey market influenced bill failed.
What are you going to say when more patients have their information turned over to the feds ,start bucking Sarich for arch bishop.
Are you spoofing from the precinct or what.
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Comment #31 posted by whig on April 04, 2007 at 21:02:19 PT

FoM
I think we do more than advocate for changing the laws, we look out for one another.
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Comment #30 posted by whig on April 04, 2007 at 20:59:54 PT

of course
I don't know if there is information which our Fed has in his disposal that might be incriminating. He does claim after all to be quite knowledgeable about this case.
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Comment #29 posted by whig on April 04, 2007 at 20:59:03 PT

FoM
This is what I was able to find.http://tinyurl.com/yo3fklI'm not seeing anything here which makes Steve Sarich look like anything other than someone trying to do the right thing.
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Comment #28 posted by FoM on April 04, 2007 at 20:51:27 PT

Just a Comment
I don't think we have people here on CNews who know anything about this case. It really isn't important to most people because we are looking for change in the laws more then anything.
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Comment #27 posted by publicbulldog on April 04, 2007 at 20:28:21 PT:

Fed
Ok You got me I want State involvement to get State medical marijuana patients in trouble for doing something the State said was legal.
Speaking of Idiots..
Whig you have your brain in the trunk
The THC clinic has authorized 10,000 plus patients.
Not one of their authorizations has ended up in a Federal data base except for the ones thru Cannacare.
Growing plants,when you have a caregiver, and signing authorizations from the same location was flat out irresponsible.
Thc clinic keeps records away from illegal activity and not on the line of scrimmage,and has a proffesional track record..
Cannacare has a navy doctor signing authorizations from the same locations where the cuttings are grown dumb just plain dumb
Whig You are a real idiot if you insist on standing up for somebody that does this.
Somebody you claim to not know.
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Comment #26 posted by publicbulldog on April 04, 2007 at 20:20:03 PT:

who pays me?
This is a free service to prevent anymore medical marijuana patients from being rounded up into a data base that is not secure,and will fall into federal hands(wanna bet on it).
I was rounded up.
What do you expect me to do.
Let 1200 more people get rounded up by these guys.
They have an add in the little nickel trying to get more suckers into the data base.
If those people do a google search on Sarich they may get the warning.
His minions post here by the way.
John Markes is his right hand man that Zack Joy was talking about when he said "John" Was his partner.
The feds did not go to John Markes's house ,they came to mine.
Markes used to be in the Navy,and moved here from Arkansas.
He is Sarich's contrarian ...
I quit cannacare in june.
They came here to get my information on the multi jurisdictional drug task forces,and to arrest me.
I had too many e-mails to prove I was not part of cannacare anymore.
They contemplated arresting me retroactively,then they took 20 e-mails and left.
I have an ax to grind with Cannacare.
This will be my last post on Cannacare on this site.
I will respond to any responses to this thread.
I want cannacare out of Washington
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Comment #25 posted by whig on April 04, 2007 at 20:15:14 PT

Fed
What publicbulldog wants is access to that database, and any other databases that providers create in order to be able to provide medicine to patients that need it. He wants a STATE identification, as if that would be better, and more protected from federal disclosure.I am having to hold back from using profanity.
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Comment #24 posted by whig on April 04, 2007 at 20:13:02 PT

OCBC has a database
I can say that I feel no discomfort having my name in their records.I am a qualified medical patient.I am not concerned about federal prosecution.
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Comment #23 posted by whig on April 04, 2007 at 20:06:24 PT

publicbulldog
I don't know Steve Sarich. I don't know if anyone here does.You are apparently intent on persecuting him. Who pays you?
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Comment #22 posted by publicbulldog on April 04, 2007 at 19:53:15 PT:

Sarich rounded em up
If he is not working with the feds then he is just plain dumb .
the feds put 1200 people in their data base thanks to him,and his recklessness irresponsible behavior.
I am one of those 1200 people .For that I am an idiot for getting caught up with the fed embed or just inbred.
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Comment #21 posted by publicbulldog on April 04, 2007 at 19:49:50 PT:

An Idiot
Grows 1500 plants and keeps medical records at the same location...while he has a caregiver,SURROUNDED BY EX SERVICEMEN AND FEDERALLY INDICTED PEOPLE!
That my friend is an IDIOT.
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Comment #20 posted by whig on April 04, 2007 at 19:47:02 PT

publicbulldog
"Either or If you do not support State involvement,then you are either a grey marketeer or a fed imbed."You are an idiot.
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Comment #19 posted by publicbulldog on April 04, 2007 at 19:35:18 PT:

Either or
If you do not support State involvement,then you are either a grey marketeer or a fed imbed.
Until it is rescheduled there simply is no other way.
I would like free market solutions as much as the next guy.
However until Bush is out of office,and even then I am not sure the D's will reshedule because of Union pressure to keep drug war jobs,we are stuck with State involvement or Gray marketeers.
As far as me being a Federal agent it sounds good to whig but ask yourself why would a Federal agent want to grow just 6 plants,have his family frisked and embarrassed,and promote state involvement just to end Federal involvement.
Sarich on the other hand grew with a caregiver, grew 1500 plants while he had a Caregiver,had a federally indicted guy Zack Joy at his house to be used to get a search warrant on my house,got caught growing 1500 plants, and still went about his business.He is in alliance with Doug Hiatt,they both want what the feds want..dispensaries and ID systems,with your medical records on hand for them to put in a federal data base.
200 down looking for more in the little nickel.
Go back to California Sarich .Take Doug Hiatt with you.
You guys lost up here.
You cant have your NCI buddies come and get me anymore. your through.
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Comment #18 posted by whig on April 04, 2007 at 19:28:25 PT

KB Xmas Special
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8Z9mTlllPo
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Comment #17 posted by whig on April 04, 2007 at 19:25:34 PT

Toker00
Doesn't the tide seem to be receding rather rapidly? Altitude is a good thing.
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Comment #16 posted by Toker00 on April 04, 2007 at 18:50:39 PT

uh oh
Is that a little flame I feel under my caboose?publicbulldog, no disrespect for your opinion, but the whole point in what we are doing is to rid ourselves of a nanny government. We don't want compromise, we want free thought, free choice. WE want to be the Deciders. After all, it's OUR bodies they are deciding about here. Dissolving government agencies that have made a mockery of Human suffering and comfort deprivation is a HIGH priority for some of us. This is not about more laws, it's about ridding ourselves of these corporate chains that bind us from Nature and what is Right. We really are at the point of All of Nothing. Don't back down. Step Up.Inhaler.
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Comment #15 posted by whig on April 04, 2007 at 17:59:16 PT

publicbulldog
I haven't made a penny, and have no designs on doing so. You are a federal agent if I don't miss my guess.
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Comment #14 posted by publicbulldog on April 04, 2007 at 17:09:33 PT:

Whig
I am saying why not get State involvement.
It works for Oregon...
I am saying we should sh!tcan CTED,and grow for the have not's...,and let the haves grow small grows so the feds cant jusify operating.
I am saying why invite Federal involvement with p-patches and dispensaries.
Just to make a Buck?
Just to give the DEA a bigger slice of the seizure pie?
Washington State was going to be the first State to grow and distribute medical marijuana to the Have-Nots.
So what if we would have lost the federal grants.
We are losing them Next year anyway.
Soon the State will be paying the whole bill to enforce Federal medical marijuana laws over State medical marijuana laws just to keep CTED A FLOAT,rather than the 60/40 state /fed split now.
Do you get the picture ,or do you just like poking the DEA in the nose on the way to the Bank,
Or have you have invested in an ID system and a dispensary too in hopes of making bank.
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Comment #13 posted by whig on April 04, 2007 at 16:32:55 PT

publicbulldog
You are insisting that if we break federal laws we are wrong.That is not the opinion of the majority of people here, unless I am very mistaken.
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Comment #12 posted by publicbulldog on April 04, 2007 at 11:43:19 PT:

what side do you think I am on
Please explain.
Just because I want the State to grow it legally under the federal controlled substances act I am not on Your side.
I must have missed 60 minutes when That show was on ..Explain.In 1997 my State ,Washington passed a piloy program to distribute medical marijuana to the have nots.
The State just had to inform the Federal government that the State was going to distribute medical marijuana under the same immunity as a narc selling pot.
To stop illegal activity.
There is not even a need to do research.
The State can just simply say we are trying to stop illegal ,and gray market activity.
Washington State was going to do that in 1997.
The pilot program was scraped, not because it could not be done,it was scraped because the Feds threatened to take away half a dozen Federal Grants.
Washington State was bribed to comply with Federal medical marijuana laws and drop a plan to grow and distribute medical marijuana.
CTED employs 10,000 people with those grants.
California employs even more people with federal grants.
That is the root of the problem.
My kids were frisked,I was embarrassed in front of all of my neighbors just for being a member of cannacare 7 months before I was arrested,after Steve and myself were at bitter odds over the p-patch /State involvement debate got way out of hand.
After Cannacare minions called me day and night from unavailable phone numbers I was arrested,FOR BEING ASSOCIATED WITH CANNACARE,WHERE MY MEDICAL RECORDS JUST HAPPENED TO BE ON SITE FOR THE FEDS TO CONFISCATE.
I have studied this problem extensively.
I will debate anyone on the issue of medical marijuana.The Washington State legislature listened to me this year not Steve Sarich.
I said no p-patches..there were no p-patches.
any questions
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Comment #11 posted by whig on April 04, 2007 at 10:52:30 PT

publicbulldog
I don't think you are on our side.
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Comment #10 posted by publicbulldog on April 04, 2007 at 09:45:15 PT:

P-patches are a Federal bust
Notice Oregon doesn't have federal busts.
If we allow p-patches we invite Federal ionvolvement.
Why should the Have's suffer because the Have not's cant find a caregiver.
The State should grow for the Have not's and let the have's grow an amount of say 40 plants.
That way the Feds cant justify operations and the Have nots have something to fall back on until they can find a caregiver.
To allow for p-patches is dumb.
Washington State has already thought of that when they drew up the intitiative.
Only Cannacare wants to allow for a California style dispensary that the Intitiative writers already avoided.
DEA will be able to justify operations like they do in California.
Until Marijuana is rescheduled the only option is State involvement.
The arguement that the State will grow bad pot is not a good one.
The law can be written to allow for a patient with a certain condition to petition the State to grow a strain that has proven it works for their condition.
The State could be petitioned to grow these strains and not just be locked in to bad strains.
Any way you look at it State involvement means no Federal involvement.
These people that want to be engaged in Interstate commerce and larger grows are just asking for it ,and are risking the rights for all of us.
When you donate for pot that is still interstate commerce.
It has to be free.
We know these clubs do this for money.
Which is why Sarich had a caregiver so he could grow for the Gray Market,and make money.
1500 plants = 100 dollars for 4 plants to Sarich.
That is interstate commerce not compassion.
He could do it all for free which I know he doesn't,and be left alone by the Feds. 
He collects more than just money for a power bill.
That is interstate commerce.
His formula just screams for Federal involvement.
Oregon's law does not allow for Federal involvement.
Plenty of patients are happy growing their own little amounts and like it that way.
Even the Gray Marketteers like the current law.
The feds have to ride on the backs of the multi jurisdictional drug task forces so the seizure amounts are 80-20 for the State.
The Feds want to have a bigger slice of the pie so if we go with p-patches we give them that slice.
Steve Sarich should go back to California where he can grow as many plants as he would like,and make as much money as he wants.
He stands for Federal involvement plain and simple.
His reasons for not wanting State involvement until Marijuana is rescheduled is a sophist argument,and not a good one for Washington State medical marijuana patients
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Comment #9 posted by ekim on April 02, 2007 at 19:21:48 PT

did anyone hear the npr 10 min story
a leo is in his car 4 blocks from the whitehouse watchen some guys outside a store sayen how low the price and how high the quality of drugs have gotten.
the story mentioned that those fighting the drug war want more tuffer judges, and stop spending money on drug interdiction and turn it on the users in the US.i keep hopen that i will hear a comment from a LEAP Speaker.
if only just a mention to go read what leos have to say about ending the drug war.good going toke
http://blog.leap.cc/
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Comment #8 posted by FoM on April 02, 2007 at 14:00:44 PT

whig
I don't understand what you mean since that sounds technical. The acceleration of the war on drugs got a major kick start by Nixon that I remember.
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Comment #7 posted by whig on April 02, 2007 at 13:48:06 PT

FoM
Regarding Nixon declaring War...on Drugs or anything else, it's not the president who declares a state of war to exist in this country.There is no war. It is over.
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Comment #6 posted by whig on April 02, 2007 at 13:46:33 PT

FoM
I believe NORML rescheduled to 08/20 (but I could be wrong on the date) in order to avoid conflicting with people's other plans on 4/20.
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Comment #5 posted by FoM on April 02, 2007 at 13:44:04 PT

NPR: America's Forgotten War: A Series Overview
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=9286922
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Comment #4 posted by ekim on April 02, 2007 at 09:16:25 PT

DEA response in two words: permission denied.

US ND: DEA Won't Rule on ND Hemp Licenses in Time for SpringURL: http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v07/n418/a06.html
Newshawk: allan
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Pubdate: Sat, 31 Mar 2007
Source: Bismarck Tribune (ND)
Copyright: 2007 The Bismarck Tribune
Contact: http://www.bismarcktribune.com/forms/letters.php
Website: http://www.bismarcktribune.com
Details: http://www.mapinc.org/media/47
Author: Blake Nicholson, Associated Press Writer
Bookmark: http://www.mapinc.org/topics/industrial+hemp (Hemp)DEA WON'T RULE ON ND HEMP LICENSES IN TIME FOR SPRING PLANTING The federal Drug Enforcement Administration has told North Dakota officials it is "unrealistic" for them to expect the DEA to approve industrial hemp production by Sunday. State Agriculture Commissioner Roger Johnson sums up the DEA response in two words: permission denied. Farmers Dave Monson and Wayne Hauge in February were issued the nation's first licenses to grow industrial hemp, a cousin of marijuana that falls under federal anti-drug rules even though it does not produce a high. The state licenses are worthless without DEA permission. Hauge has said his crop must be in the ground by mid-May, and he needs time to acquire seed and prepare the land. 
 

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Comment #3 posted by FoM on April 02, 2007 at 08:00:15 PT

OT: Wasted Youth
http://www.southofboston.net/entreports/heroin/index.html
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Comment #2 posted by FoM on April 02, 2007 at 07:49:27 PT

OT: Study: State Drug Program Flawed
By Jack Leonard and Megan Garvey April 2, 2007The most comprehensive assessment of California's landmark effort to treat drug users rather than jail them has found that half of offenders sentenced under the program fail to complete rehab and more than a quarter never show up for treatment. The high failure rates have prompted a growing number of critics to call for jail sanctions for defendants they say take advantage of the program's lack of penalties. Voters overwhelmingly approved Proposition 36 in November 2000. Under the program, most people convicted of drug possession get three chances to complete rehab and kick their addictions before a judge can send them to prison. To date, the initiative has cost California more than $600 million. By diverting thousands of nonviolent drug offenders from lockups, the measure has reduced the burden on prisons and saved the state $2.50 for every $1 spent, according to the University of California, Los Angeles, study of Proposition 36. Complete Article: http://www.theunion.com/article/20070402/NEWS/104020087
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Comment #1 posted by FoM on April 02, 2007 at 06:31:30 PT

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I just noticed that NORML doesn't appear to be having their big spring conference this year like they have had for years. That is odd and I wonder why? 
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