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  Drug Culture Follows Many Boomers Into Old Age 

Posted by CN Staff on January 24, 2007 at 11:15:56 PT
By Lisa Hoffman 
Source: Knoxville News-Sentinel 

USA -- They are perhaps best known for their youthful indulgence in an exotic menu of illicit substances such as Acapulco Gold, windowpane acid, mescaline and Quaaludes. Now, experts warn, the 78 million-strong baby-boomer generation is bringing its propensity to use pills and pot to its senior years. In what researchers call the tip of an ominous trend, boomers are responsible for a spike in drug and alcohol abuse that is expected to mushroom in coming years.
"I think it's a silent, unappreciated problem that has the potential to tarnish the baby boomers' golden years," said Dr. Bruce Henricks, medical director of the Mutual of Omaha insurance company. The few studies that have been done are upending what had been a long-standing assumption - that substance abuse declines as people age. The boomers - for whom Bob Dylan's "everybody must get stoned" refrain served as a mantra for many - are proving the "maturing-out" theory wrong. One of the few comprehensive studies of the problem found that 3 million Americans older than 50 in 2004 had used illicit drugs such as marijuana, cocaine or heroin, or had misused anti-anxiety, anti-depression or other prescription drugs. Research by the federal Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration estimates that number could more than double by 2020. Boomers are generally defined as those born between 1946 and 1964. Already, the drug-abuse toll is evident. Hospital emergency rooms reported treating more than 400,000 boomer-aged patients for drug overdoses in 2004, according to the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Many do not make it, as was reflected in a recent Scripps analysis that determined boomers made up about half of all people nationwide who died of drug-related causes in 2003 - most from overdoses. A similar state health services department survey in California, where the counterculture first blossomed 40 years ago, found a nearly 30 percent increase in boomer drug deaths between 2000 and 2004. In Arizona, officials counted 250 boomers dead of drug-related causes in 2005, compared to 39 in 1995. Henricks and other experts say a combination of physical and emotional factors portends an acceleration of those trends as boomers age. While not all boomers have used illicit substances - and millions merely experimented or engaged in occasional "recreational" use - the "if it feels good, do it" philosophy that prevailed in their formative years remains for many. This generation has more heavy drinkers than earlier ones, according to the National Institute on Alcohol Abuse and Alcoholism. The availability of such super pain relievers as Oxycontin is also snaring boomers - including conservative radio-talk-show pioneer Rush Limbaugh, 56 - who started out using it to ease chronic pain but in time become dependent on the pills. And, for most boomers, turning to a pill to cope with dieting, insomnia, depression, menopause and a child's attention deficit disorder is an everyday act. It is that predisposition that leads researchers to predict a new spike in illicit substance use, misuse of prescriptions and the mixing of alcohol with drugs as the inevitable aches and pains of aging set in. Loneliness, grief at the loss of loved ones, health woes, stress and lower standards of living all can contribute to "self-medication," they say. And physiological changes - such as a slower metabolism - can magnify or distort the effect of both legal and illegal substances, sometimes in a deadly way. Despite the signs that society is heading toward a new substance-abuse problem, little is being done so far to prepare for it, experts say. "Today's health-care system fails to deal with this reality," said Samuel Korper, of the federal substance abuse and mental health agency, in a report on the future impact of elderly drug and alcohol use. That is the conclusion as well of Peter Provet, president of Odyssey House in New York City, one of the first substance-abuse rehabilitation facilities to open after the 1967 Summer of Love. Now, his treatment program is faced with a growing waiting list of older addicts, a situation he expects to occur across the country because of a lack of federal funds and facilities equipped to help older abusers recover. Compounding the situation, he said, is the virtual absence of public awareness of the problem. "This is an untold story that needs to be told," Provet said. Distributed by Scripps Howard News Service, http://www.scrippsnews.comSource: Knoxville News-Sentinel (TN)Author: Lisa HoffmanPublished: January 23, 2007Copyright: 2007 The Knoxville News-Sentinel Co.Contact: letters knews.comWebsite: http://www.knoxnews.com/CannabisNews -- Cannabis Archiveshttp://cannabisnews.com/news/list/cannabis.shtml

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Comment #58 posted by FoM on January 26, 2007 at 15:46:18 PT
museman
One of the things I've noticed is how heavy young people seem now. I can visualize Woodstock 69 from my DVD and there weren't any people that I saw that were overweight. There wasn't fast food like now back then. Produce and meat was fresh. I wasn't exposed to fast food until my twenties. I had good food made at home until McDonald's started. I never had a pizza until I was in my mid 20s. The food they sell us is convenient. They make a lot of money on not good food. To afford good natural vegetables we will need a garden. The neighbors cows always got in our garden and wrecked it but they fixed the fence and they didn't get out since then so we'll give it one more try this spring.
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Comment #57 posted by museman on January 26, 2007 at 15:23:45 PT
FoM
"We need to get back to the basics."Hard to do when dependent on supply side/war priority economics.Healthy food seems to be a bit more expensive than the larger supply of tastless, nutritionless, and even toxic and poisonous foods that are sold, marketed, and lobbied for in the American mainstream of goods and services.I had a friend give me several boxes of tree -ripened matural unfertilized pears this fall. They were delicious. The ones on sale at our one and only market - comparable to a Safeway, were bland and mealy, and an absolute waste of money.Grow your own, it's the only sure and safe way.
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Comment #56 posted by FoM on January 26, 2007 at 11:29:57 PT
museman
Messing with our food is scary. I really believe the health problems I am having are the lousy food I've been eating for years. As I change my eating habits and eat home cooked meals I feel better. I feel so bad for young people that are growing and eating the food they offer us. We need to get back to the basics.
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Comment #55 posted by museman on January 26, 2007 at 11:26:23 PT
the problem
With hybrid corn, is that though the kernels won't sprout -because of genetice engineering, the tassles still pollinate, which means that any seed corn pollinated by that strain will be rendered sterile. If the strain were grown everywhere, it would only be a matter of time before the only seed available would be the hybrid. The implicaitons of that are really scary.
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Comment #54 posted by Hope on January 25, 2007 at 22:05:33 PT
FoM
I understand what you are saying.
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Comment #53 posted by FoM on January 25, 2007 at 21:32:20 PT
Hope
I said about not needing anything and I was trying to say is that we in America must stand on our own two feet about finding an alternative fuel. There I feel better.Ekim, I just don't have any idea how I could help in that area but I hope it works out.
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Comment #52 posted by FoM on January 25, 2007 at 21:14:07 PT
Hope
I was talking to my husband and I told him that corn I believe was used because someone figured out how. Now maybe what they have learned they will try to change to switch grass or something even better then that. Maybe Hemp would be good. I just don't really know. The most important thing is that we try to do something so we don't need foreign oil. I don't like needing anything from someone if I can figure out how to do it myself. We can fix the mess if the oil companies don't fight change.
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Comment #51 posted by Hope on January 25, 2007 at 21:11:04 PT
ekim
"I had two more offices say they would not meet, unless I brought along a constitutent. If you know anyone coming to DC who would not mind taking an hour out to visit a Senator, let me know....howard wooldridge leap.cc/ "Does this mean they've found a way to keep him from speaking to all the congress people? That doesn't seem right. But...I guess that's the way they do it." Then he says what he says so well.Howard is a wonderful man. He does so much for our cause. I hate to see doors closed in his face. I wonder if a constituient of one of those states, without having to go to Washington themselves, could appoint Howard as a representative for them to speak to their congress people? It seems reasonable to me. Which means it's probably not reasonable in Washington.I'm quite serious. I couldn't help...because he already is a constituent of the Texas congress critters. But someone from Indiana...Someone from Montana...Oklahoma, any state, and there are some of us in every state...should be able to assign or ask Howard to see their congressman for them. Howard could just say, "I'm here because so-in-so...here's their name...They are one of your constituents. They asked me to personally represent them because they can't come to Washington to see you themselves. I have a personal message for you from them.
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Comment #50 posted by Hope on January 25, 2007 at 21:00:11 PT
The President of Mexico
as I understand it is scrambling to do something. The price cap is, I think, because of fears of people with enough money buying it all up then hoarding it and charging outrages prices for it. It's to stop those outrageous prices and that kind of skull duggery profit seeking. Price gouging, I believe it's called. Making unreasonable profits on the hardship of others.It's no surprise there are those who would take advantage of the situation and do just that. They are trying to avoid that happening.Masa Harina. Corn flour. Finer ground than corn meal. A staple for a lot of people. I need to start watching the price of that. I always wanted to try to make homemade tamales. I might ought to do that while I still can.Like I was talking to my husband about...it would be better if they used something that wouldn't make the price of so danged much go up (we didn't even mention corn syrup...which , I think, is used to sweetened most soft drinks and maybe candies. One line of Dr. Pepper in a place here in Texas, where it was started, still uses cane sugar, but I'm pretty sure most sweets industry stuff uses high fructose corn syrup...or just corn syrup.Cane sugar, I believe, is superior to other sugars...'cept maybe honey. I'd hate to see it go sky high, too.If they would find something that could ADD to the economy...like the switch grass or hemp...without causing prices in nearly every area of life to go up like they will with the corn...and maybe even the cane sugar. I'm pretty sure sugar cane will grow down south. I may be wrong about that though.My thought was that it wouldn't effect so many poor people so badly if they used something like switch grass for the fuel. But my husband said it would probably still effect corn in that corn producers would probably switch to switch grass.So I don't know. Hopefully, smarter people than me will figure it out in a way that doesn't cause suffering.
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Comment #49 posted by ekim on January 25, 2007 at 19:37:14 PT
its the hybred seed that wont re grow-----
I had two more offices say they would not meet, unless I brought along a constitutent. If you know anyone coming to DC who would not mind taking an hour out to visit a Senator, let me know....howard wooldridge leap.cc/ 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------NEWSLETTER: JANUARY 26, 2007 Chuckle of the Week: I learned quickly that I need to be ready to discuss anything at the drop of a hat (see below paragraph on hemp). So, I read all the ‘Washington Whispers’ type columns. This week I read how hundreds of K Street lobbyists (K Street is where all the heavy hitters hang their hat. I hang my hat 40 miles from K Street. LOL) overflowed a room to hear about the latest ethics rules. They learned that one can provide a standup buffet of regular food and not cross the line of ‘feeding a politician.’ On the other hand, the expert advised NOT to put filet mignon or lobster on a toothpick. Headshake of the Week: As part of our agenda for 2007, I push a conference of doctors whose specialty is addiction psychology. They could give the Congress their expert opinion whether drug use would go up or down, when we legalize/regulate. The legislative director of one office said that conference would be useless. Puzzled, I asked why. ‘They only know about the psychology of people who become addicted, not the people who don’t use drugs.’ The words out of my mouth to the contrary fell on deaf ears. NOTE: an acquaintance & doctor I met while riding my horse west of Cleveland who is board certified in addiction psychiatry will write this muffin head a letter explaining what the experts know about those who use and don’t use drugs. On the anniversary of Roe v Wade I attended a reception for Senator Brownback (R-KS) who had recently announced his candidacy for president. I was searching for others who were concerned for life and of course, I found them. In particular I had a good chat with two ministers who thought the ‘arrest-free 911 call’ for an alcohol or drug overdose was a good idea. One said he would pray for such a law. I thanked him for his prayers and also asked him to speak the Senator about it.  At the same reception I met a man my age who grew up on a farm in Kansas and was a friend of the Senator. We spoke of horses and I brought up Misty’s painful ankle condition which I was unable to treat with cannabis. I expressed my anger that my horse suffered because I was not allowed by my government to treat her. He said he would inform the Senator. Who knows? FYI In 1919 when Texas made the possession and use of cannabis illegal, they made an exception for the medicinal use for both humans and live stock. God didn’t make no junk!! While waiting to chat w/ an aide from Illinois, 3 lobbyists came in to see another aide. One turned to me and asked my opinion on the wisdom of turning corn into ethanol. I said it had to be subsidized w/ govt money.  It was also driving up costs for cattlemen and the poultry industry. I suggested a better bio-mass source to make fuel was hemp. I explained the benefits of hemp for about 2 minutes, until the legislative aide took the 3 away. Though hemp is far from being a LEAP issue, it always helps to have an answer to a question.
http://blog.leap.cc/
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Comment #48 posted by FoM on January 25, 2007 at 19:17:59 PT
Hope
I have been trying to learn a little bit about the corn problem by searching google because Mexico is so far from where we live that I don't connect very well with it. I'm relatively close to Toronto so I would probably know more about something up north. I read in the New York Times that the President of Mexico is putting a cap on the price of corn for the people. Won't that help a little?
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Comment #47 posted by Hope on January 25, 2007 at 18:52:40 PT
Mexico
Yes, they grow corn. Up until now, as I understand it...they haven't have to import it...but that looks as though it will change.It's the price. And corn, even the corn grown in their country, that they could once afford will be diverted and what is left will cost more. The problem will be for all those people living in those cardboard shacks outside of cities...or in cities. Corn...in tortillas...is a staple there. It's a very important part of their lives.Maybe the poor people in the country will be able to grow enough corn for themselves. But we are talking about very poor people. The price of corn will effect their lives.Even here in Texas, we put away a lot of tortillas and corn bread. (Not to mention Doritos and Fritos) But people who buy Doritos and Fritos probably won't mind paying twice the amount for them. I guess that would put a 15 oz. sack of Frito Scoops at about seven dollars a sack if the price doubles from what it is now. I'm not really worried about Fritos and Doritos and tacos and enchiladas...I'm worried about the people who live on corn tortillas. I guess we'll likely have to help them somehow. Mexico, though, isn't the only Latin American country that depend on tortillas for their everyday lives.It's something to think about, anyway.Of course it will effect all meats...probably even farm raised fish. Even the price of leather (shoes) will likely be effected. It will effect the price of milk...because of feed. It's rough all around.Corn farming will sure be lucrative, though. Probably.I guess there will be more jobs in corn production.I guess we'll make it work out. We have to. 
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Comment #46 posted by FoM on January 25, 2007 at 17:54:22 PT
Hope
Do people in Mexico need our corn to make food? I didn't think we exported corn to Mexico but I never even thought about it. We grow so much corn in the states that we surely don't need to import corn do we?
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Comment #45 posted by Hope on January 25, 2007 at 17:34:06 PT
And here
http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/food/2007-01-24-corn_x.htm
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Comment #44 posted by Hope on January 25, 2007 at 17:29:32 PT
Here's one
http://www.truthabouttrade.org/article.asp?id=6927Excerpt: The crisis has hit hardest for the poorest Mexicans, who may spend more than a quarter of their daily salaries on tortillas.“This really affects my budget, the expenses of my family, because I cannot tell my kids to eat less,” said Ruth Soria, a 37-year-old housewife, who was buying four pounds of tortillas for her six children on Thursday. “This is something that they must control well. The tortilla is something basic for us. What the government did today is the least they could do.”
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Comment #43 posted by FoM on January 25, 2007 at 13:28:11 PT
Hope
The program last night really was good. We can't grow sugar cane. I think but we can grow switch grass. America has so much empty land in Ohio and I'm sure other states that the government pays people not to grow corn and if they allowed them to grow corn the need could be met for the animals. What else do we need corn for? Can't we go back to sugar? I think your husband is right about the Hemp oil not producing enough but could be added.
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Comment #42 posted by Hope on January 25, 2007 at 12:45:58 PT
alternative fuels
I'm worried how the price of corn is going to effect really poor people.Talking about switch grass and hemp oil last night to my husband, he said it would still effect the price of corn because corn producers would switch to the switch grass and hemp. I think it takes less chemicals and work to grow the last two though.When I asked him about why they don't use hemp oil for diesel engines...since they were designed for that...the said that enough hemp couldn't be produced for the amount of diesel that is used to day. He thinks they just couldn't grow enough...but he did mention that the hemp oil could probably easily be added to diesel to extend it.I thought that was an interesting thought...the part about extending diesel with hemp oil.
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Comment #41 posted by FoM on January 25, 2007 at 12:38:55 PT
ekim
I didn't see the whole program because I was watchin Joe on MSNBC and saw you post and turned it on. I did see that about switch grass. I think that is the best chance we have to make fuel. We better seriously get on this before our whole world crumbles because of this administrations love for oil.
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Comment #40 posted by ekim on January 25, 2007 at 12:21:43 PT
FoM
did you guys see the whole show on renewables last nite on the history ch .what i am asking is did you see the page that posted the gals per acre from switch grass and sugar -- the switch grass was highest at 1,150 gals per acre.well what i mean is the last time i saw this show it was back in Sep 20 and the guys at NREL the National Renewable Energy Lab in Golden Co said that the industral enzymes would cost 25 cents a gal to produce and last night NO mention of the cost of these enzymes what soever. this is the big story as this tech is held back no forward movment can occur with out these enzymes.
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Comment #39 posted by FoM on January 25, 2007 at 11:46:28 PT
museman
I didn't recognize him and wondered who he was. Cool. I have a couple DVD's of James Taylor. I also have a DVD of Carole King. Great watching them particularly in the winter. Their music is soothing.
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Comment #38 posted by museman on January 25, 2007 at 11:42:44 PT
FoM
Wow, talk about a time of innocence, even with Vietnam going on - that was so pure.
 Did you see Garcia playing bass?
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Comment #37 posted by FoM on January 25, 2007 at 11:12:52 PT
Here's a Classic
James Taylor & Carole King - You've Got A Friendhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVZNXtJs7c8
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Comment #36 posted by museman on January 25, 2007 at 11:02:04 PT
FoM
The list is long and full. Amazing times indeed! We are witnessing the final death of something that has been stinking and rotten for millennia, and the birth of a sacred promise that has been held in human hearts since the dim beginnings.In our time we will have taken the first step truly out of the spiritual darkenss and ignorance that has plagued us, and given power to those who abuse, use, repress, and oppress us, into the light of that which we glimpsed through disheveled hair full of flowers, as we danced to the tune of freedom.
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Comment #35 posted by FoM on January 25, 2007 at 10:49:41 PT
museman
Music with heart and conviction is the music I loved and still love. I can sing along with music that is just entertaining but that isn't what I like. We listened like you did I'm sure to FM radio and we had some really good groups that could jam away but I only have really enjoyed a few people or groups. CSNY, The Moody Blues, The good Beatles music, like Magical Mystery Tour etc. and folks music like Arlo Guthrie. I like James Taylor and Carole King. Tapestry was the first album by a female singer that gave me hope that I could be more then I was and that I had rights as a woman. Amazing times they were.
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Comment #34 posted by museman on January 25, 2007 at 10:24:51 PT
FoM
Yeah. They can go on about the boomers, mock us, criminalize us, discredit us - whatever they want , but they just can't take away our time. They didn't get George, or John, they got cheap hollywood imitations. WE HAD THE REAL THING. And we still got it.
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Comment #33 posted by FoM on January 25, 2007 at 10:13:20 PT
museman
This is for you. I think George was sick when he did this song.George Harrison - All Things Must Pass (Live)http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSTolqJJRq4
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Comment #32 posted by museman on January 25, 2007 at 10:07:41 PT
ekim
Thanks to you too.When I was young, I started running up that mountain of Spirit and Truth, a few years ago I slowed down to a walk. Right now it's a very slow stumble forward. At some point I will be crawling, but until breath leaves me, I will be heading for the top of that mountain.The learning and growth never stops though it is harder to make changes the older you get. Fortunately I have some good folks around me, even if the community has been californicated into prime time america.
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Comment #31 posted by ekim on January 25, 2007 at 10:00:23 PT
museman keep going
something good will happen for you and yours.Jerry will be back keep your chin up best to you allways.
mike
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Comment #30 posted by museman on January 25, 2007 at 09:03:39 PT
freewilks
Thanks. Good advice. There is a similar one that I try to follow;"This too will pass." Brought home to me by George Harrison,and "Tomorrow is another day." -which this is.If only those damn political fools would get some good advice and follow it. Then one day would certainly be a better day than the one before.
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Comment #29 posted by freewillks on January 24, 2007 at 19:35:13 PT
Museman
This one verse has brought me through some very hard times. My life is now better today than it was yesterday.Mathew 6:34
So then, do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Today has enough trouble of its own.
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Comment #28 posted by George Baily on January 24, 2007 at 17:49:46 PT
There Is Fire
Brings me hometo some empire of gentle futureswhere we' can look into the eyes of some' strangerare those the eyesthat unlock my complete soul? 
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Comment #27 posted by Had Enough on January 24, 2007 at 17:35:18 PT
re: #26
Yep. That’s gw. Good to see you again.
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Comment #26 posted by George Baily on January 24, 2007 at 17:25:40 PT
re: We're Here To Stay
Ain't that the truthdo you have a favorite song?do you have a favorite place?if you are a women, have you learned to bow?if you are a man, do you know which direction to pray?
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Comment #25 posted by mayan on January 24, 2007 at 16:58:00 PT
We're Here To Stay
The pulsing cycle of revolution will soon come around again. The youth will revolt against the same things the 60's generation did but they will likely do it in a different way. If they don't they will all die for the neo-cons! The spirit of the 60's will never die as it is too deeply embedded in the culture. Oh, how the fascists wish they could turn back the clock to the 1950's. They are trying but it's far too late for them.  
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Comment #24 posted by OverwhelmSam on January 24, 2007 at 16:48:36 PT
Most Of Us Just Like Marijuana
It's time for reason to evolve. Guys like J. Walters must think we are crazy to mess with marijuana because we could easily get a legal prescription for, say oxycontin or ritalin, if we just wanted to get high without risking arrest. They just don't get it. Drugs like oxycontin and ritalin are highly addictive and/or dangerous, even though they're legal. Marijuana is not addictive or dangerous. 
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Comment #23 posted by museman on January 24, 2007 at 16:42:09 PT
#21
I was wondering that myself, the resemblance is uncanny.
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Comment #22 posted by museman on January 24, 2007 at 16:40:47 PT
And..
Just in case there is any doubt about what and who I mean; 'they' are what the 'boomers' referred to in their politicly active days as "The Establishment."
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Comment #21 posted by Had Enough on January 24, 2007 at 16:35:32 PT
Re: #19
Is that you, gw?
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Comment #20 posted by museman on January 24, 2007 at 16:30:18 PT
Somebody must still be scared
That the 'boomers' might yet have a few surprises in store for the 'establishment.'Let's see now; They tried to get us by doing nuclear testing in the late forties and fifties - if you happened to be a bottle fed (non breastfed) baby between 1945 and about 1962 and in the path of prevailing wind currents - which included most of the plains states- then chances are that some kind of cancer, or glandular problem will be evident.They weren't too confident of that however, so they set up a real nasty situation in Southeast Asia so that they could send virtually anyone they wanted to over there to get murdered, or maimed for life inside and out - with the exception of the one's who liked it - they came back to be the 'backbone' of our law enforcement.Well that wasn't enough either. Then they had to get in there and start messing with our icons, our role models and front-runners."Get in the car. My boy your gonna go far, Have a cigar!"They infiltrated all levels of our gatherings for peace love and understanding, introducing such wonderful things as PCP, Stricnine laced 'acid', heroin, cocaine, and speed to those in the front lines. True a lot of 'em fell for it, some of 'em died for it, but that was part fo the plan.The WOD had/has many casualties, and most of them were/are in the hands of the cops and lawyers.Then of course what was left? Those of us who still believed in the common sense of the experience all have one mutual understanding; the amazing benevolence of the God Given Herb Cannabis.That common sense has through much time, effort, dedication, sacrifice, - all in the most honorable of ways - served to educate a substantial amount of the population in the truth about the herb, particularly it's wonderful medicinal properties. Common sense has been legislated -for possible the first time ever- in nearly 25% of the states...and they are really worried folks.They have never had anything but straws to grasp at when it comes to the truth about cannabis and all it's uses. Now this message to the satus quo (the article above) threatens in blatant disrespect, scorn, and discreditation our 'golden years' by continuing to pursue their political course of error with no regard to facts, documents, testimonies, research, or the entirety of those.They are so afraid of us even now, as our bodies begin to fail, and the decades of pollution and poison take their toll, they're actually quietly reopening as many prisons as they can- to turn into 'boomer retirement facilities.' and recycling old straws into creating false new fears.
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Comment #19 posted by George Baily on January 24, 2007 at 16:29:12 PT
Thank You
Museman and Tokeroo,Your words are poetryLong after forgotten dixie chicks and neil youngs,Long after times to reflect our placesOur good place in this world
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Comment #18 posted by FoM on January 24, 2007 at 15:55:01 PT
Toker00
Won't back down! Thank you Dixie ChicksDon't need no more lies! Thank you Neil Young
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Comment #17 posted by Toker00 on January 24, 2007 at 15:52:05 PT
Wouldn't the NeoCons love a reversion?
People ignorant of Cannabis. People ignorant of Self-Thought. Prejudice and Hide-the-Sex games/slaves again common. Don't Question Authority the Rule of the Day. Everyday. No Constitutional Consciousness Re-awakening. Pure freedom for the Corporatists and Fascists at Heart. Pure slavery for the rest. "PPssssttt. Won't Back Down. Pass it on."Toke.
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Comment #16 posted by FoM on January 24, 2007 at 15:48:15 PT
museman
Oh it won't revert back. No way. We made a major impression on society. We helped stop Vietnam. We showed people that one way isn't the only way. We have people involved in earth concerns that was born from our era. It's still going on. Spirits don't die.
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Comment #15 posted by museman on January 24, 2007 at 15:40:51 PT
FoM
I was adding to toker00's 'imagine' thought. I meant - going with the inference in the above article that toke is alluding to - that when the boomers are gone, will everything that we have historicly actually accomlished, some of which I listed, revert back to the 'state' they were before we came along? It's sarcasm I think. though Parody may be a better call.
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Comment #14 posted by FoM on January 24, 2007 at 15:32:59 PT
museman
I'm not sure I understand what you mean will it revert back.
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Comment #13 posted by museman on January 24, 2007 at 15:30:49 PT
while imagining,,
Imagine a world without color. Cars all black, white, and brown. Suits and ties all in shades of gray. No women's liberation. No civil rights established. Music about necking on lovers leap -not about Peace Love and Understanding. No 'personal computers' or digital revolution. No freedom for expression of originality or uniqueness.This is pretty much the way it was before we got here. Is it going to revert back?
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Comment #12 posted by museman on January 24, 2007 at 15:21:25 PT
thanks all
"How much stuff ya got?"I am smiling now.
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Comment #11 posted by FoM on January 24, 2007 at 15:16:18 PT
One More Comment
I was so sick that I took one of the powerful pain pills I've had for many years and it helped with the pain. I appreciated having it but instead of liking the side effects I didn't like them. I said to my husband that seemed strange to me. Pain medicine does serve a purpose so I don't want anyone to think I don't understand. 
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Comment #10 posted by FoM on January 24, 2007 at 15:07:31 PT
museman 
I'm very glad you feel comfortable in sharing what you just did. I had so much trouble with narcotic pain pills and when I went thru withdrawal I just won't use them. I still have some from years ago for an emergency though. Maybe you need the system but your spirit is free. 
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Comment #9 posted by Hope on January 24, 2007 at 14:46:13 PT
Right, TokerOO
And it would probably then, after if got rid of us, burst out in self-sown cannabis/hemp all over itself to heal itself from all we've put it through.
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Comment #8 posted by Toker00 on January 24, 2007 at 14:42:17 PT
Just imagine...
When we're all gone, the world will be drug free, alcohol free, legal drug abuse free and there will never again be a sub-culture. I'll bet the world can't wait.Toke.
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Comment #7 posted by Hope on January 24, 2007 at 14:34:19 PT
Dang!
I'm sorry to hear that trouble is dogging you, Museman. But I'm not sorry you've told us. Sharing can be like a pressure valve that let's a little pressure off and provides a tiny bit of relief. "Life is hard. But, you can do it." (quoting that "still small voice" I heard one miserable day.) At least until you can't anymore.One of my sons was complaining about everything breaking down in and around his house. He asked my husband "How much more stuff can break down?"My husband said, "How much stuff ya got?"
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Comment #6 posted by museman on January 24, 2007 at 14:19:33 PT
FoM
I Alas must take pharmacuetical pain killers (derived from opium) every day, or suffer pain to the point of seriously considering euthenasia. In fact, today I am kind of depressed about how much I have become dependent on a system which I neither believe in, or want.I have to take drugs for pain, for high blood pressure, and for thyroid deficiency. Without the pain meds the wounded beast rages, without the blood pressure I risk heart attack or stroke. Without the thyroid -to me the most important of all- I get fat and stupid. I am forced to live a lifestyle which is abhorrent to me, cannot be trusted by the AMA to know my own physical being, so I have to make redundant visits to the doctor just to renew my prescriptions. Though I am a gypsy at heart, I can no longer work to support myself so have had to rely on the very government I hate so much to provide me my military disablity pension -which is not much better than welfare.I just got notified yesterday that my home is being sold out from under me, and quite frankly I am a little apprehensive about how I am going to afford to rent another place on my income.My music equipment is falling apart, in the middle of projects that go back 6 years, with a lot of new stuff also, and since I don't make any income at music- I offer it for free, I don't known how I'm going to continue. I guess my kids'll just have to sort it all out when I'm gone.I don't know why I'm spilling it, but it helps a little I guess to share the information.
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Comment #5 posted by FoM on January 24, 2007 at 13:35:38 PT

Just a Comment
I did hard drugs back in the 70s but back then a friend would tell you if you needed to slow down. You knew about addiction potential because people weren't afraid to talk about it. I never had any problems with illegal drugs that I couldn't deal with myself. Now fast forward a few years. When I started going to the doctor and was prescribed tranquilizers and pain pills I developed a problem and needed help to stop. I don't take drugs now and I don't know anyone that does. 
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Comment #2 posted by MikeEEEEE on January 24, 2007 at 13:28:35 PT

Creating Perception
There is a big difference between use and abuse. The propaganda machine typically replaces the word use with abuse. They assume society cannot control themselfs. That's really stupid, and narrow minded thinking."This is an untold story that needs to be told," Provet said. I'm sure some of the propaganda media will pick up on this BS.

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Comment #1 posted by museman on January 24, 2007 at 13:21:05 PT

Oh go f-yerself 
One word; PAIN.You have it, your entire focus becomes centered on relieving it.The author/s of this totally biased, insulting, and degrading article are obviously neither 'boomers' or in touch with reality.The fact is that DRUGS are handed out like candy by doctors, advertised in the first and last commercial in every break on tv, and manufactured by greedy pharm companies. Another fact is that most of the 'drug addiction' in the 'boomer' generation was instigated by our own government. The tendancy to look to 'drugs' or medicine to solve a health issue is a direct result of marketing, laws restricting ones own access to healthy, natural substances, and a culture that that has a general need to be led everywhere by the nose.DRUGS are derived from herbs, but specificly 'designed' to work in specialized areas of human metabolism. Most 'legal' drugs have been proven to have side effects which in the long run make life just as bad or worse. The herbs don't have those same side effect which are a direct result of messing with nature.'Illicit drugs' are primitive deriviations of once acceptable forms of self-medication.- with the exception of meth-amphetamine which is an invention of the Nazis, inserted into the 'counter culture' by the CIA.The assumption that all doctors know more about your health than you do, is a very wide error. Allowing law to dictate these conditions is unconstitutional, and morally criminal.GET THE HELL OUT OF MY LIFE YOU ARROGANT BASTARDS!

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