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††Drug Czar Blasts Medicinal Marijuana

Posted by CN Staff on March 23, 2006 at 19:12:48 PT
By Heather Ishimaru†
Source: ABCNews.com†

California -- The Bush administration's point man on drug policy wants random drug testing in your child's school. John Walters was in the Bay Area Thursday to drum up support for his idea, but in a state that legalized medical marijuana, that may be hard to come by.Roughly 600 of the nation's 15,000 school districts now have random drug testing programs in place. The Bush administration has spent $8 million dollars to help pay for them, and the White House hopes to nearly double that amount next year.
White house drug czar John Walters believes random drug testing of students will stop drug abuse before it starts. He says substance abuse should be thought of as a disease, but instead of being spread by germs, it's spread by peer pressure. John Walters, White House drug czar: "It's an enormous, first and foremost, prevention tool. It gives young people reinforcement to say 'no I can't, I'm being tested.'" Some parents and school officials argue it doesn't work and it's an invasion of privacy. Walters counters that most of the opposition to random testing is based on misunderstandings. John Walters, White House drug czar: "Random testing cannot be used to punish, cannot be referred to law enforcement, must be done confidentially with the inclusion of parents and must be done only to help the child." Jennifer Kern is with the Drug Policy Alliance, a non-profit group that is critical of White House drug policy. She says parents have little say in the testing process and students who test positive are often punished. Jennifer Kern, Drug Policy Alliance: "The only national study done was conducted, supported by federal funds and showed no difference in student use in schools that did and did not have these programs." California's Proposition 215 legalized medicinal marijuana. Walters says it hurts children when it leads to production of pot-laced products that appeal to kids, like what was found in a large bust last week in the East Bay. John Walters, White House drug czar: "Nobody says I need medicinal meth, medicinal crack, medical Jack Daniels. The fact of the matter is, and we have to have compassion for the sick and dying, but Prop. 215 is being used to suggest marijuana is good for you." Dennis Peron, Prop. 215 author: "Marijuana is good for you. And I will not just suggest it, I know it. When my lover was dying of AIDS, wasting away, marijuana gave him an appetite." Dennis Peron authored Prop. 215. Dennis Peron: "It is not medical meth, not medical crack, it's medical marijuana we're talking about." The Drug Policy Alliance says punishing kids who test positive by banning them from after-school activities is not only ineffective but counterproductive. Keeping kids engaged in those extracurricular programs, they say, is proven to keep kids off drugs. But last year, the drug czar's office handed out over $700,000 dollars to California schools launching drug testing programs. None of those schools are in northern California. Note: Makes Other Controversial Comments.Source: ABCNews.com (U.S. Web)Author: Heather IshimaruPublished: March 23, 2006 Copyright: 2006, ABC7/KGO-TV/DTWebsite: http://www.abcnews.go.com/Contact: Heather.Ishimaru abc.com Related Articles & Web Sites:Marijuana.orghttp://www.marijuana.org/Drug Policy Alliancehttp://www.drugpolicy.org/Raided Pot 'Edibles' Trouble Advocateshttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread21672.shtmlRaids Net Pounds of Pot-Laced Candyhttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread21670.shtml

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Comment #71 posted by psycosmo on March 27, 2006 at 22:42:16 PT
Medical Meth LOL!
Ironically Meth IS used medically under the trade name of Desoxyn. It is used to treat Narcolepsy and ADD.
For more info see http://www.healthyplace.com/medications/desoxyn.htm
and
http://www.dea.gov/pubs/scheduling.html
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Comment #70 posted by jose melendez on March 25, 2006 at 18:39:05 PT
Stand up for your rights.
Get up, stand up.http://www.drugpolicy.org/news/032106dcsdt.cfm
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Comment #69 posted by FoM on March 25, 2006 at 13:32:04 PT
konagold
I'm sorry to read about the storm and downed tree. This is my web site with links to mostly global warming issues. We barely had a winter in Ohio this year and we had a terrible drought last summer. I have a feeling we are going to have a hot and dry summer this year too. 
Save The Planet For Another Day
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Comment #68 posted by global_warming on March 25, 2006 at 13:20:15 PT
maybe I should change 
my user name?Weighing in on this 'silver confusion,Silver was heavily used as a treatment for many proven years, until the early 1900's, it was around that time when the infant FDA in this USA, decided to bring forth the agenda of good medicine verses 'bad medicine.It was around that same time that Cannabis was banished and all records and testimony was either erased or silenced, it was at that time when they decided that prohibition was a just and necessary law in this culture, that is also known as the good old USA.It was always them 'good old boys, who carefully watched over their investments, you know by now, it is that bottom line in 'black and white, that can fill your belly, the hell with them other lazy people, who either were too sloww or some other medical problem, that is not at the bottom line.Maybe some of those scientists, should try, to smoke a tight joint filled with good bud, maybe they might catch a glimpse, of this rotten world, filled with disease, anger, confusion, and 'war, and this war on drugs, which is a war on human beings, are 'we not'all children of God?
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Comment #67 posted by konagold on March 25, 2006 at 12:36:58 PT:
high yo silver
Aloha MaxNo I canít cite those cases, as I donít have any copies of the research I did, while I was taking silver. I did not find it that effective however I did see a reduction is inflammation in a leg abrasion I had at the timeI donít have time right now to re-research this, as we had a windstorm perhaps even a tornado [took down several houses down the hill from me] which has knocked down a huge Mexican cypress tree in my yard which I must tend to, welcome to the wonderful world of global warming [the fact not the username] That you have seen even a curable case of this blue skin I will take as confirmation that caution is warranted, which is my only point: something about the term HEAVY METAL POISINING seems to ring a bellA high dose level was probably the cause of the blue skin cases I read aboutSilver is available in many forms including home brew kits, and a problem in using silver is the concentration level in the water it is suspended in, getting enough without too much seems to be the problem; also accumulation of silver up to a blue skin tipping point is also a relevant issue in its use.On the other hand and unrelated to the use of silver; the vaccine has worked for me to such an extent that I have a whole new world; your mileage may vary,Aloha
Rev. Dennis Shields 
http://thereligionofjesuschurch.org
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Comment #66 posted by global_warming on March 25, 2006 at 12:35:06 PT
hey Hank
that link you you posted, it seems that it is about the Grateful Dead, never really listened to to this group, never understood the movement, that is attached to this group, maybe I am missing something, has not the knife of prohibition cut through the fabric of this America?
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Comment #65 posted by global_warming on March 25, 2006 at 12:06:32 PT
The 100th Monkey
Was from an article posted here, it was about monkeys and humans, dirty fruit and nuclear proliferation, though that thing in Denver looks interesting, temps here are hovering around forty with a chance of rain or snow.
Dixie Chicks turn death threats to song
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Comment #64 posted by Hope on March 25, 2006 at 11:35:42 PT
Greenjoy.... Bassinettes.
Glow on. Glow on.
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Comment #63 posted by Dankhank on March 25, 2006 at 10:59:43 PT
100th monkey?
could this be the one?http://www.quixotes.com/dhistory.htmlfound the place in Denver last weekend.
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Comment #62 posted by Max Flowers on March 25, 2006 at 10:31:49 PT
konagold / colloidal silver
Aloha Dennis,Could you cite those cases if possible? Because my research indicates that it takes long-term heavy use to create the condition you're talking about, which is called argyria. If a single dose did it, it would have to be a massive dose I think. Also, it's debatable that argyria is incurable. There is at least one case where a person reversed (cured) it after getting it; it's on the net and can be found. I read it the other day. I'm glad a vaccine worked for you. I don't trust them, myself.
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Comment #61 posted by FoM on March 25, 2006 at 09:43:03 PT
Basinettes
GreenJoy, How cool! Have a great day! I will keep taking it easy. 
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Comment #60 posted by GreenJoy on March 25, 2006 at 09:39:03 PT
Ouuuwwwwccchhh.
 LOL! Poor GreenJoy! OOhhh NOooo! 
 I do try to keep it down to a roar ya know. ; ) And 1 mod. I would rather get blown to bits in Iraq,
 Run over by a bus.
 Struck by lightning etc.
 
 Than ever get pneumonia again. Slow suffocation sucks. I understand that once one has had it the likelyhood of it happening again is high. Its been ten years and I haven't had even a slight cold since! Still scared. FoM, anyone, you don't want to go there. If it gets to the bronchitis stage slow way down and stop pushing yourself, which I did not do. (I'm kinda intense and driven. Passionate about my work.) I'm hip to the hempseed oil. Part of a pain management regimen that includes celery, pineapple, papaya, (bromelain), meditation, walks, lottsa water, and avoiding bad foods. There's just one thing that's *missing*! The hempseed oil has my big dowg lookin swell! I put it on his kibble. Way fewer hot spots and callouses. He looks Great! Well, Poor Poor Pitiful Me is goin to shop basinettes!!
 I'm glowing again. :-)
 
 
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Comment #59 posted by whig on March 25, 2006 at 08:58:34 PT
Sam
You can mix up a protein shake and use some hemp seed oil as one of the ingredients.Hey wouldn't it be great to be able to create a "total nutrition shake" using all parts of hemp for protein, fiber, carbohydrate, oil, etc.
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Comment #58 posted by sam adams on March 25, 2006 at 08:54:51 PT
bad joints
I second Kapt.'s recommendation on the hemp seed oil, also for joint problems, the omega-3 oils are very benefical in soft tissue & joint healing. (i.e., poor Greenjoy's neck vertabrae and disks)I recently stopped taking the capsules of hemp seed oil in favor of just taking a big 'ol tablespoon of the oil everyday, but it's not working out very well so far! It is nasty tasting by itself. Holding my nose helps. I am trying to avoid all the gelatin & stuff in the capsules.I have found hemp seed oil to be very tasty as a simple salad dressing, mixed 50-50 with balsamic vinigrette.Manitoba Harvest in Canada is a great place to order either capsules or bottled oil, I think they are 100% organic. 
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Comment #57 posted by jose melendez on March 25, 2006 at 06:24:57 PT
feel better
Hope you feel better. My guess is a bit of exercise would trigger some cannabinoids of your own, that and some sunshine helped me . . .Check out this book, BTW: - - -"Drug War Propaganda" ( 2003, Cafe Press, 324 pages ) systematically lays bare the methods and techniques media use everyday to demonize drug users. The book is divided into eight chapters, each chapter examines a rhetorical theme and tactic drug warriors use to smear the very idea of not jailing drug users.  http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v06/n363/a02.html?397
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Comment #56 posted by GreenJoy on March 24, 2006 at 20:08:32 PT
Thanks All
 For indulging the GreenJoy sitch and feelin my pain. I wouldn't want to equate my chronic pain with Cancer, or AIDS, or MS, or getting your ass blown off in Iraq!!!! I hope I wasn't too much. 
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Comment #55 posted by FoM on March 24, 2006 at 17:38:49 PT
Toker00
I'm here for now. I'm heading back to bed soon. I'm glad Molly is home and Elvis is happy and Mr. and Mrs. Toker00 are really happy to I bet. 
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Comment #54 posted by Toker00 on March 24, 2006 at 17:22:40 PT
Vets are good people. 
Molly is home and Elvis is ecstatic! So are we. Thank you Lord.FoM, I hope you are on the better end of that virus by tomorrow. You are right about the body knowing what to do to heal. I wanted to go and blow, and did until I put in a 14 hour day, and it landed me in BED. My body finally said enough is enough.Hope you are better soon.Toke. 
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Comment #53 posted by global_warming on March 24, 2006 at 16:55:11 PT
You are Welcome
and may every breath you have,remind you and that shit head the 'czar,from some dirty old Stalinist Era,that has failed, so miserably, and so criminally,for such 'crimes and human behavior,can never be understood,or find any comfort,under the canopy that shines in the Night Sky
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Comment #52 posted by whig on March 24, 2006 at 16:42:03 PT
g_w
Thank you for the Apocalypse of Peter.
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Comment #51 posted by global_warming on March 24, 2006 at 16:38:57 PT
resign
he should commit suicide,
\
it would be better for his wretched soul,if he can see his soul?
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Comment #50 posted by mayan on March 24, 2006 at 16:34:53 PT
Resign Already
John Walters, White House drug czar: "It's an enormous, first and foremost, prevention tool. It gives young people reinforcement to say 'no I can't, I'm being tested.'"Let's just build more prisons and then throw the entire population in them. It would give everyone an excuse to say, "No, I can't, I'm incarcerated." Walters has been an obvious failure. He should resign immediately.
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Comment #49 posted by global_warming on March 24, 2006 at 16:29:28 PT
the 99 monkeys
i may be that monkey with that number 99,be assured, that monkey with that singular distinction, that monkey who is one hundred,is going to come, he will sing in the 'Night,and fill your dreams,Rock on, hope, you have your Sunday best,when you come to the table,to receive your grace,
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Comment #48 posted by OverwhelmSam on March 24, 2006 at 16:07:20 PT
Ah Well, Stupid Is As Stupid Does
We only have a few more years of Walter's fanitical crap and then maybe they'll put someone in with enough balls to tell Congress the best was to protect the children, is to regulate marijuana for adults.Forgive them lord, they know what what they do. ~Jesus.
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Comment #47 posted by global_warming on March 24, 2006 at 16:03:55 PT
Never Could
figure out the difference between lyrics and scripture, The Apocalypse of PeterAs the Savior was sitting in the temple in the three hundredth (year) of the covenant and the agreement of the tenth pillar, and being satisfied with the number of the living, incorruptible Majesty, he said to me, "Peter, blessed are those above belonging to the Father, who revealed life to those who are from the life, through me, since I reminded they who are built on what is strong, that they may hear my word, and distinguish words of unrighteousness and transgression of law from righteousness, as being from the height of every word of this Pleroma of truth, having been enlightened in good pleasure by him whom the principalities sought.
But they did not find him, nor was he mentioned among any generation of the prophets. He has now appeared among these, in him who appeared, who is the Son of Man, who is exalted above the heavens in a fear of men of like essence.And as he was saying these things, I saw the priests and the people running up to us with stones, as if they would kill us; and I was afraid that we were going to die.And he said to me, "Peter, I have told you many times that they are blind ones who have no guide. If you want to know their blindness, put your hands upon (your) eyes - your robe - and say what you see."But when I had done it, I did not see anything. I said "No one sees (this way)."Again he told me, "Do it again."And there came in me fear with joy, for I saw a new light greater than the light of day. Then it came down upon the Savior. And I told him about those things which I saw.And he said to me again, "Lift up your hands and listen to what the priests and the people are saying."And I listened to the priests as they sat with the scribes. The multitudes were shouting with their voice.When he heard these things from me he said to me, "Prick up your ears and listen to the things they are saying." 
The Apocalypse of Peter
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Comment #46 posted by global_warming on March 24, 2006 at 15:44:08 PT
meant to include
this nice linkhttp://www.netmar.com/~maat/archive/maglist.htmSome may enjoy this place, who knows, maybe even old John might press that freakin button..
Press To Enter
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Comment #45 posted by global_warming on March 24, 2006 at 15:35:40 PT
Both
Arrogance and ignorance, now there is a winning combination.Wish I could 'live long enough to hear someday, in some news article, how old Johns legs have swelled, and how he chose the best that 'medicine had to offer, and rather than taste that gift from God, he and his lawyers held a press conference, and voted some bastard allopathic doctor, the medal of honor, for standing up against 'garlic and medical cannabis.
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Comment #44 posted by Hope on March 24, 2006 at 15:19:37 PT
Somebody
write that man...J.P.W., a letter.Some reporter report his public ignorance....or arrogance. Which do you think?A dread...a drugde and a worry.I already know they don't pay me any attention.I'm a tick or a burr under their saddles. It's easy to rub them the wrong way. I've squeaked. I've squawked. I got respect from them on gun issues...NRA and all that....none on the issues that feed the WoD. I'm glad to see MPP, DPF, Drugsense and all that becoming the NRA of the WoD injustice and issues to the constitution...weakening or strengthening it? Little c. Might as well be.We're like biting flies to them. 
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Comment #43 posted by Dankhank on March 24, 2006 at 15:03:40 PT
No?????
So:John Walters, White House drug czar: "Nobody says I need medicinal meth, medicinal crack, medical Jack Daniels. The fact of the matter is, and we have to have compassion for the sick and dying, but Prop. 215 is being used to suggest marijuana is good for you."Methamphetamine IS a medicine ...Cocaine IS a medicine ...Seems to me there WAS Medicinal Alcohol during the failed prohibition.Wasn't there?
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Comment #42 posted by Hope on March 24, 2006 at 14:02:44 PT

  37
Headnod.
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Comment #41 posted by Hope on March 24, 2006 at 13:57:21 PT

Saving bandwidth?
I just need a little heart or something like thing a ma jiggy key on this keyboard.
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Comment #40 posted by FoM on March 24, 2006 at 13:35:18 PT

Thanks Kapt
I'll sure keep it in mind.
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Comment #39 posted by kaptinemo on March 24, 2006 at 13:29:14 PT:

FoM, you might try grapeseed extract
That and hemp oil capsules; both contain the highest known amounts of anti-oxidants, necessary for rebuilding the immune system. I can only speak from my own experience, but whenever I start to come down with something, I reach for either of those. You can get the grapeseed extract at any drugstore or health food store; even many large grocery chains like Giant on the East Coast carry it. It's a little expensive, but so's a visit to your doctor's office...
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Comment #38 posted by GreenJoy on March 24, 2006 at 12:42:33 PT

I'm Trying Sam
 (makes heinous grunting sound)  It's not working.  ( more grunting ) How long do I have to keep this up?  ( cough, choke, and puke ) I just can't. I give up.   
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Comment #37 posted by Sam Adams on March 24, 2006 at 12:12:04 PT

pain in the neck
No, Greenjoy, you must suffer the neck pain in silence for the sake of the State! It is your patriotic duty to work at your job to make money to give to the drug corporations. It is your duty to drink as much Coors as you possibly can, the State approves of it. It is your patriotic duty to make yourself sicker, so that you can work even harder to buy more Big Pharm drugs.You can be just like that guy in the Army ads - jogging through the neighborhood, watching all the little materialistically spoiled children playing and thinking about going to Iraq to get your ass shot off for them.  You, too, can be a hero. As you walk the neighborhood, wincing from the neck pain, you can appreciate the fact that you're contributing to the children's well being.Ignore the fact that they're already getting high for fun and you can't for pain relief. All that matters is fealty to your State and Government! Let your love for the State and Dick Cheney overwhelm those feelings of chronic pain!
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Comment #36 posted by GreenJoy on March 24, 2006 at 11:13:44 PT

How bout a little test Mr. Walters
 You drink 2 shots of Jack 3 times a day and I'll do 2 huge bongs, or brownies, joints for that matter, of the strongest Cannabis known 3 times a day ( God that would be so nice! In my dreams. LOL )and we shall see what is bad for you. Taking into account the difference in years of course. Who would still be still be a solid person after a year or two? One of us will be sleeping in the gutter and the other will be writing music, and painting, and playing in the sunshine as though his neck pain were around the corner and down the street! ( swearing )
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Comment #35 posted by GreenJoy on March 24, 2006 at 10:25:05 PT

Yes Max
 It WAS life and death. To walk up 3 or 4 steps was exhausting. I looked like a tooth pick. I couldn't rest because I couldn't stop coughing and I couldn't breathe. It was THE most horrible thing evarrrrrr! And I've been busted hard, and heartbroken, and divorced! LOL! I had never had my ass kicked by anyone or anything before. I was grateful like I had never been before in my life when I could draw a reasonable breath again. The simplest pleasures meant the world. I can remember feeling better and going out and looking at the sky....( sheds tear ) so anyway. It was when zithropack had not worked and the doc said, "Are we going to turn the corner on this or not?" I became MY own doctor FAST. Like I said earlier. Garlic. I KNOW it made the difference. And I take what health I have left and run awaaaaay, run awaaaaaay. Maybe if I break a leg or cut an artery. PPppbbbbb. 10-4
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Comment #34 posted by GreenJoy on March 24, 2006 at 10:05:16 PT

recall
 Well there was a link there for info on a recall. In haste to get back I presumed there had been one...perhaps not. Nevertheless, the stuff is harsh and was intended as an anti-seizure medicine. When I injured my neck, I complained of some dizziness and the big time orthopedist considered giving me some for THAT! But then he said, "nah, the stuff will lay you so low that I don't think it..." and he didn't finish. Then there's Adderall. My older brother took some for some crazy reason. It burned the little tiny hairs or something way inside his ears and he hears a constant ringing. It started the 1rst day he took the stuff. Its been several years now, still there. And he's a really down to earth, peace and quiet loving musician. :( Anyway, there are numerous lists with Vioxx, Neurontin, and ADHD medicines on them. Careful with that stuff whig!!!
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Comment #33 posted by konagold on March 24, 2006 at 09:56:48 PT:

beware of silver
Aloha MaxBe careful of silver, there are cases where a single dose has caused an incurable blue or gray tint to skin. Might be a opportunity for a lifetime career in the carnival freak show.Having had respiratory illnesses all my life I would often develop a walking pneumonia with weeks of coughing up green clots of yuckLast year I got a pneumonia vaccine shot and it has proved a dramatic change in my life for the better. It is effective for seven to ten yearsNow when I get a cold or allergic reaction to my environment it does not settle in my lungs for weeks at a time.AlohaRev. Dennis Shields

http://thereligionofjesuschurch.org
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Comment #32 posted by whig on March 24, 2006 at 09:50:10 PT

Greenjoy
Neurontin isn't withdrawn. It was being overprescribed for a lot of things, as I understand it, and the company was encouraging this.There is now a generic (gabapentin) on the market, so the manufacturer is now trying to find reasons to encourage everyone to use their new (patented) replacement, Gabatril.
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Comment #31 posted by GreenJoy on March 24, 2006 at 09:43:39 PT

Whig
www.neurontinlawsuit.lawinfo.com 
I think the link is right...
 It says it has been recalled. Neurontin was allegedly marketed for conditions/diseases that it shouldn't have been. Many hazardous side effects. 47 attorneys general investigating etc. 

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Comment #30 posted by FoM on March 24, 2006 at 09:42:10 PT

Max Flowers 
Thank you. I have heard of it before and will check it out when I feel a little better. 
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Comment #29 posted by Max Flowers on March 24, 2006 at 09:35:47 PT

FoM
I hope you feel better quickly. If you're not yet on the upswing (past the worst part), you might consider trying the colloidal silver if you have a health store near you. It can't hurt you and it's not very expensive.
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Comment #28 posted by Max Flowers on March 24, 2006 at 09:31:57 PT

GreenJoy
You wrote: - I had pnuemonia a few years back. Antibiotics galore and I still kept getting thinner and weaker and sicker. - Your (then) doctor should be fired. He made a common mistake that is really unnecessary. Antibiotics fight *bacterial* infections, not viral ones. Pneumonia is usually a viral disease. When people ask their doctors for antibiotics when they have colds and flus, they are making a big mistake, but there's no real excuse for the doctor caving in and prescribing them. They need to explain the medical facts to them, not give them the wrong medicine for the job. Worse still, antibiotics kill all the beneficial bacteria in our gastro system, which allows pathogenic bacteria to overrun, which puts big stress on the immune system, which ends up benefitting---you guessed it---the original flu/cold/pneumonia (in your case you may have been playing a life & death game there, glad you won...)I've been reading lately about colloidal silver and am really curious to try it. It is alleged to be effective against all of it---bacteria, viruses, and all their ilk. There are reports that it can even wipe out hepatitis and diabetes.
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Comment #27 posted by FoM on March 24, 2006 at 09:15:25 PT

Toker00 
I'm so glad she is ok. I had a Weimaraner that we had to remove her eye and she lived many years without it and adjusted just fine. I want to get work done but I know I need to take it easy. We need to learn to listen to what our body tells us. Pain means slow down. Our society doesn't allow the luxury of getting sick. 
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Comment #26 posted by Toker00 on March 24, 2006 at 09:13:14 PT

injury
...mistakes...so darn human.Toke.
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Comment #25 posted by whig on March 24, 2006 at 09:11:56 PT

Greenjoy
I never had a problem with Neurontin except for headaches, but then I have those anyhow. Or maybe it caused the headaches? I don't really know. I took a lot of things for pain, and Neurontin was certainly one of them.Can you point me to some information about its dangers?
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Comment #24 posted by FoM on March 24, 2006 at 09:11:29 PT

GreenJoy 
I am so leary of prescription medicine. Why are there so many drugs on the market? 
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Comment #23 posted by Toker00 on March 24, 2006 at 09:08:36 PT

FoM
Good to hear you will be taking it easy this weekend. My little girl is awake this morning, and alert, and still at the clinic. She actually had two surgeries. She had an unjury to her eye when whe was young, and it grew into a major problem. They removed her right eye at the same time they spayed her. It was a critical operation and I was very anxious. We will be bringing her home this evening, or in the morning. We'll keep a close look on her for a few weeks. We love her.Wage peace on war. END CANNABIS PROHIBITION NOW!
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Comment #22 posted by whig on March 24, 2006 at 09:08:15 PT

FoM
I don't understand why people don't try to get the drug prescribed if they want it since it is legal.Doctors aren't especially willing to prescribe it for people unless they have a strong and demonstrable condition for which it is medically indicated. Schedule II is pretty tightly controlled, and doctors are scrutinized and subject to prosecution.Which is all beside the point, really, that John Walters tries and fails to make. People do say they need medicinal meth, and they do get it, legally.
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Comment #21 posted by GreenJoy on March 24, 2006 at 09:07:04 PT

Oh phooey
? The question mark I left out. I always screw up when I'm mad!!
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Comment #20 posted by GreenJoy on March 24, 2006 at 09:04:48 PT

In Addition
 The White House has no business determining what is medicine and what is not, nor what is good for you and what is not. And why should they or the FDA be trusted anyway. They said Vioxx was good medicine. That stuff has left me with heartbeat that skips all the time. And I'm one of the lucky ones!!My Dad was given neurontin. It messed him up so bad he seemed as though he had a stroke. I'm certain it hastened his death. Neurontin is on the, "oops we made a mistake it will actually kill you" list as well. The system is the problem. It is unbelievable that Jack Daniels is even mentioned in the same breath as Cannabis and it is plainly two faced that one is prohibited and one is not. But why expect sanity, truth, justice, freedom, liberty, or the right to the pursuit of happiness from a corrupt system.
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Comment #19 posted by FoM on March 24, 2006 at 08:59:39 PT

whig 
I agree that Methamphetamine is legal already. I don't understand why people don't try to get the drug prescribed if they want it since it is legal. 
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Comment #18 posted by whig on March 24, 2006 at 08:20:59 PT

"Nobody says I need medicinal meth'
http://www.rxlist.com/cgi/generic2/methamphetamine_ids.htm
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Comment #17 posted by whig on March 24, 2006 at 08:15:24 PT

Sam Adams
Not just amphetamine, but methamphetamine is legally, medicinally prescribable, schedule II, such as Desoxyn. As you said, cocaine is also legally, medicinally prescribable, though not in "crack" form. Alcohol doesn't even need a prescription, and apart from its common recreational use, is a common ingredient in many over-the-counter remedies, even including mouthwash.There is one major difference between these things and cannabis. You can overdose and die from meth, cocaine or alcohol.
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Comment #16 posted by Sam Adams on March 24, 2006 at 08:02:41 PT

national secretary of hateful lying
John Walters, White House drug czar: "Nobody says I need medicinal meth, medicinal crack, medical Jack Daniels. The fact of the matter is, and we have to have compassion for the sick and dying, but Prop. 215 is being used to suggest marijuana is good for you."First of all, no one is telling anybody they NEED medical MJ.Secondly, cocaine is a legally prescribe-able drug in Schedule II. For certain neurological diseases, yes Mr. Pee, your doctor may indeed tell you that you need medicinal cocaine.Thirdly, I believe there are in excess of 3 million CHILDREN that are on amphetamine-analog drugs right here in the USA (ritalin, etc). Amphetamine drugs are also in Schedule II. There are thousands of doctors who are telling parents that their children NEED medicinal crank. In fact, there are many state-employed school administrators telling parents they're kids must either take the prescription speed 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, or face rejection from the government school system.And lastly, yes, alcohol, in particular spirits, can definitely have a medicinal effect as well. Many people with Irritable Bowel Syndrome report that small amounts of alcohol help with IBS. And there have been numerous reports on the life-extending properties of red wine & dark beers, certainly not medicines, but possibly "nutriceuticals".I have to say that Mark Emery's interview is weighing heavy on my mind. I've never seen someone do such a great job at articulating the true reasons for the drug war - to repress spirituality, to train the children for totalitarian oppression, to prepare young minds for the application of dogma and obedience to the rich elite and political class.When you see someone who's dedicated their life to spewing hateful lies, you know something is seriously wrong with the system.

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Comment #15 posted by FoM on March 24, 2006 at 07:56:45 PT

Thanks Everyone
My husband will be back off the road tonight and I am not planning on doing anything this weekend. Hopefully I'll be over the worst of it soon. I feel lousy and I could complain a lot but I am grateful instead. I can get up go make some soup, go to bed and turn on the tv. I can't imagine what it would be like to be sick like the way I feel now and live on the streets. Toker00 did you dog come thru surgery ok?
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Comment #14 posted by GreenJoy on March 24, 2006 at 07:51:35 PT

Yes indeed
 Whatever works. Hope I don't seem to be a "garlic pusher". Gotzta say dat dem bugz hatezzz da garlic dooo... (goes for some Aio e Oio)
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Comment #13 posted by dongenero on March 24, 2006 at 07:32:47 PT

FoM
Get well soon!Get plenty of rest and fluids.Take 2 of whatever works for you and call us in the morning.Come to think of it, I'll take 2 of whatever works for me and comment in Cnews in the morning.
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Comment #12 posted by GreenJoy on March 24, 2006 at 06:38:47 PT

Respell
Pneumonia. Since it nearly killed me I suppose I should give it the respect of it's correct spelling! And I hope you feel better soon FoM!
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Comment #11 posted by GreenJoy on March 24, 2006 at 06:29:27 PT

Garlic
 If only garlic could ward off the fuzz!!
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Comment #10 posted by GreenJoy on March 24, 2006 at 06:17:38 PT

FoM
 I had pnuemonia a few years back. Antibiotics galore and I still kept getting thinner and weaker and sicker. Someone at the local organic grocery suggested I take garlic cloves and chop them into pill sized pieces and swallow them whole with water. It worked! I recall feeling better in 1/2 hour, though the return to actual health took months. Anyway, garlic won't hurt ya...unless you are allergic. I eat lots of garlic nowdays. Never sick. Haven't seen much of Dracula either! :)
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Comment #9 posted by jose melendez on March 24, 2006 at 05:02:30 PT

oopps
clumsy fingers andcomplacency sans spell check;please delete or fix"hiccup wish we had edit" - a haikuno copyright - open source by Jose Melendez,Concerned Citizens Coalition to Criminalize Prohibition
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Comment #8 posted by jose melendez on March 24, 2006 at 04:58:17 PT

arrest the drug czar - a haiku
misunderstandingsarise from omitted truthsotherwise called lies - - -"Aarrest the drug czar" - a haikucopyright 2006 by Jose Melendez, Concerned Citizens Coalition to Criminalize Prohibition
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Comment #7 posted by global_warming on March 24, 2006 at 04:08:01 PT

hee-haw
"Some parents and school officials argue it doesn't work and it's an invasion of privacy. Walters counters that most of the opposition to random testing is based on misunderstandings."The only misunderstandings is John Walters, for continuing to spread his invasive urine in a cup theology.
Global Warming Revealed
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Comment #6 posted by jose melendez on March 24, 2006 at 03:35:05 PT

Arrest the Drug Czar
" . . . (L)ast year, the drug czar's office handed out over $700,000 dollars to California schools launching drug testing programs . . . )- - - CONSIDER:  * The Supreme Court of the United States has ruled that illicit cannabis is an item in commerce.  * The Sherman act forbids monopoly, construction of devices in restraint of trade or any attempts to fix prices.  * The Partnership for a Drug Free America, funded primarily by pharmaceutical, industrial and drug precursor chemical manufacturers is such a device.  * PDFA and ONDCP are on the record as having published and disseminated false claims in an attempt to restrain any legal cannabis trade.  * In the process, both have authorized or received payments from the federal government based on those false claims.  * Furthermore, the interests funding PDFA do in fact charge the government via Medicare, Medicaid and other industrial contracts for defective and dangerous products at significantly higher rates than the highest street prices known per dose for illicit cannabis.  * Mahmoud ElSohly has been given a monopoly over all legal U.S. cannabis sales, based on his claim, later repeated verbatim by federal officials, that solely his firm manufactures sufficient quality and quantity cannabis to satisfy any need.  * Mr. ElSohly's firm also earns a significant proportion of income by providing adulterated and substituted (urine) specimens.  * Andrea Barthwell is attempting to leverage her former position with ONDCP to lobby for federal approval of a raw cannabis extract.  * John Walters' . . . press release falsely implies that medical marijuana is only smoked, that legal medications are safer, and that synthetic Marinol contains the psychoactive ingredient in cannabis.  * The government concedes that the message they sent by cracking down on marijuana led to the highest rates in history of eighth grade heroin use. THEREFORE, here are questions for all of you lawmakers, journalists and law enforcement professionals reading this:Will you blow the whistle on such obvious violations of US law, or are you simply corrupt? http://CCCCP.org - - -from: http://www.taf.org/top20.htmSince 1986 False Claims Act judgments and settlements against fraud feasors have totaled over $12 billion.Top False Claims Act Recoveries include pharmaceutical, health care and drug precursor chemical firms:HCA, Taketa-Abbott Pharmaceutical, Abbott Labs, Fresenius Medical Care of North America, SmithKline Beecham Clinical Laboratories Inc., HealthSouth, National Medical Enterprises, Gambro Healthcare, Gambro Healthcare, Schering-Plough, AstraZeneca Pharmaceuticals, Bayer Corporation, First American Health Care of Georgia, First American Health Care of Georgia, Pfizer/Warner-Lambert, Blue Cross Blue Shield Illinois, Shell Oil Company . . .Top Partnership for a Drug Free America funding sources include many of THE SAME pharmaceutical, health care and drug precursor chemical firms:http://www.drugfree.org/Portal/About/Partners/list.aspx- - -Saying it with Gustofrom: http://library.findlaw.com/2000/Nov/1/130252.htmlWe all have some understanding of the nature of fraud. When a person deliberately uses a misrepresentation or other deceitful means to obtain something to which he or she is not otherwise entitled, that person has committed fraud. However, under the False Claims Act, fraud has a much wider and more inclusive meaning.Under the Act, the defendant need not have actually known that the information it provided to the Government was false. It is sufficient that the defendant supplied the information to the Government either:(i) in "deliberate ignorance" of the truth or falsity of the information; or(ii) in "reckless disregard" of the truth or falsity of the information.The False Claims Act has been used to successfully recover for fraud against the Government in many areas, including defense procurement fraud, Medicare/Medicaid fraud and fraud against HUD by builders of federally subsidized housing.In fact, claims may arise in virtually every area in which federal Government money is spent, such as education, welfare, social security and purchases by any federal government department or agency. 
CCCCP.org - Drug war is crime. We have proof.
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Comment #5 posted by Toker00 on March 24, 2006 at 03:32:41 PT

FoM, I am so sorry.
I know right where you are. You have what I had the last two weeks, sounds like. I don't know what to tell you, except it will pass. The old rugged Nyquil works somewhat, but nothing seems to relieve for long. I was only able to take one day off to heal, so work and everything else has been in a daze. If this is the worst day, you WILL begin to feel better tomorrow. Bless you. I know Stick is hopping around like a nurse for you.Toke.
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Comment #4 posted by Toker00 on March 24, 2006 at 03:26:09 PT

John Walters is a Nazi, Fascist, Pig
John Walters, White House drug czar: "Random testing cannot be used to punish, cannot be referred to law enforcement, must be done confidentially with the inclusion of parents and must be done only to help the child."Tell that to the parents who have lost children by suicide, because these Control Tactics are so Over Baring. Tell that the child who has no control over their life, because the government says we can't trust them. Cannabis treats depression. How are you helping ANY child by stripping them of their dignity and honor? What if a child tries pot ONE time, gets tested, humiliated, punished by his parents, and stigmatized along with millions of other "stoners", as being something less than normal, less than trustable. There's not a better way to turn a child into a rebel, than replacing the parents will, with the STATE's will. Parents who agree with this pisstesting are nothing more than Nazi Fascist Satanists. Choose the Laws of Nature and God over the Laws of Man. Wage peace on war. END CANNABIS PROHIBITION NOW! PISS ON PISSTESTING!
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Comment #3 posted by FoM on March 23, 2006 at 21:09:00 PT

Just a Comment
I really appreciate all the good comments. I don't have anything to say but it's great to read all of them. Today is the sickest I have been since I can't remember when. Hopefully I will feel better tomorrow. 
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Comment #2 posted by whig on March 23, 2006 at 20:45:09 PT

Change of tune
John Walters, White House drug czar: "Random testing cannot be used to punish, cannot be referred to law enforcement, must be done confidentially with the inclusion of parents and must be done only to help the child."I think this is an interesting change in the argument for drug testing, that it is to be confidential and not a basis for punishment. But if so, and if it is only to "help the child" with the "inclusion of parents" then what if the parents object to testing of their child?
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Comment #1 posted by Christen-Mitchell on March 23, 2006 at 20:11:38 PT:

No Child's Left Behind
My older daughter told me the story of what happened in her rural High School when the drug dog inspected the locker areas. The dog started in and then sat down in the middle of the hall and whined......
The drug warriors don't seem to realize the aura of allure they creat with a constant drone of anti-drug messages. Ah, the forbidden fruit syndrome......
The reality is that when the staggering national debt come crashing down on the economy the drug war will crumble as did prohibition after the Great Depression......
After we attack Iran in June and a barrel of oil hits $100, world banking will switch from the falling dollar to the Euro as the international narcotics trafficers have already done.
Hemptopia - Our Greener Future
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