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  Medical Marijuana Champion Free

Posted by CN Staff on March 13, 2006 at 22:55:01 PT
By Sarah Foster 
Source: WorldNetDaily  

California -- Steven Wynn Kubby, co-author of California's watershed medical marijuana law and the Libertarian Party's 1998 gubernatorial candidate, is a free man – at least for now. The outspoken "reefer refugee" was quietly released March 6 from the Placer County Jail, having served 40 days of a four-month sentence handed down in 2001 for felony possession of a couple of peyote buttons and a shriveled psychedelic mushroom stem seized during a raid by sheriff deputies on his home near Lake Tahoe in January 1999.
Kubby's medi-pot garden of marijuana plants in various stages of growth – the reason for the bust – was also confiscated, but county prosecutors failed to convince the jury that Kubby was growing these for sale to compassion clubs rather than for his legal personal use. Kubby, 59, who has used marijuana for three decades to treat a fatal and incurable form of adrenal cancer, was incarcerated Jan. 27, following his arrest the evening before at San Francisco International Airport when his flight arrived from Vancouver, B.C. But Kubby's newly granted freedom could be brief. He's due in court today when prosecutors will announce whether they want him to face charges of violating his probation by moving to Canada five years ago. He could receive anything from a dismissal of charges to three years in state prison. Placer County District Attorney Chris Cattron, who prosecuted Kubby on the marijuana selling and other drug charges six years ago, is still in charge of the case. "My lawyer will argue it was medical necessity," Kubby told WorldNetDaily. "I had the court's permission to go to Canada, and once I was in Canada I was abandoned by the public defender, so I made the only choice I could – and that was to protect my health and stay." Kubby – with his wife, Michele, and the couple's two young daughters, ages 6 and 9 – has lived in British Columbia since May 2001 to avoid incarceration, a punishment doctors warned could prove fatal since he would not have access to marijuana. Four months is not a long sentence, but there's not a jail in the country that allows inmates, even those stricken with terminal cancer, to use cannabis in any form. He was afraid – and doctors who examined him concurred – that without marijuana the cancer he'd been able to keep in remission for over 20 years might reassert itself and quickly spread to his heart, brain and other vital organs. "I believed my life was on the line," he said. Kubby repeatedly sought permission to remain in Canada as a political refugee on the grounds that he was targeted for prosecution by Placer County authorities in 1998, in part because of his role in the passage of the Compassionate Use Act by voters two years earlier, which legalized the use of cannabis for medicinal purposes in California. Since medical marijuana is legal in Canada (as it technically is in California), the government there granted Kubby a medi-pot exemption but turned down his pleas for refugee status. A Canadian judge rejected his final appeal in January and ordered him to leave the country on his own or be forcibly deported. The Kubbys took the first option. The early release from jail came on the heels of a contrary ruling issued by a court just three days before. At a March 3 hearing, Placer County Superior Court Judge John Cosgrove summarily rejected a motion by Kubby's attorney, J. David Nick, to reconsider the sentence and ruled that he was to complete the 120-day stint behind bars. "The defendant has been sentenced. … I don't see that Mr. Kubby is eligible for another sentencing," Cosgrove said. "Request denied." Cosgrove also refused to modify the terms of Kubby's probation or allow alternatives to jail, such as house arrest. Officials say the release was prompted by good behavior on Kubby's part (they describe him as a "model prisoner") and overcrowding at the county jail. Placer County Undersheriff Steve D'Arcy said Kubby was one of 47 inmates released from the jail since Feb. 28 under a federal court order that prohibits overcrowding, the Sacramento Bee reported. "We have roughly 600 beds for prisoners and it is a constant balancing act of bringing in fresh arrests and releasing people who have followed all the jail rules and gotten credit for good behavior and for time served," said D'Arcy. The first few days in custody were stressful, and Kubby's blood pressure soared dangerously high. Friends and supporters feared he'd die unless he received cannabis in some form, either inhaled or ingested. He was allowed to take Marinol – a legal, synthetic form of tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, one of the most active ingredient in marijuana. Kubby said he found that the Marinol helped curb the potentially lethal surges in blood pressure, but it also caused indigestion, and he has not tolerated it well. Plus the price is astronomical – $23 a pill, and he needs three or four a day. The cost is being paid by donations. Nick told WorldNetDaily that his client's health deteriorated during his six weeks in custody, as reported in Internet postings. He lost 25 pounds and "appeared emaciated" at the March 3 hearing.  A 'Medical Miracle'Kubby suffers from locally recurrent and metastatic pheochromocytoma, a cancer of the inner core of the adrenal gland that stimulates overproduction of a group of hormones called catecholemines, which include epinephrine (adrenaline) and norepinephrine. The constant overproduction causes blood pressure to soar, resulting in blinding headaches, strokes and cardiac arrest. It's a very rare cancer but deadly. And there is no cure. Patients diagnosed with it can expect to live at most 10 years. In 1976, doctors told Kubby he had six months to live. Twenty-two years later, he was very much alive, athletic, politically active and running for the governorship of California. "I should be dead. That's what doctors recently told me after completing extensive medical tests [in 1998] at the University of Southern California's School of Medicine," Kubby declared in a piece he wrote for WorldNetDaily in 1999. "According to Dr. Vincent DeQuattro, a USC professor and world authority on adrenal cancer, my blood shows lethal levels of adrenaline. "That's not really surprising, since everyone who has ever had my disease has died within a few years. Except for me. Thanks to medical marijuana, I'm now entering my 23rd year of survival, something DeQuattro considers a 'medical miracle.' "Dr. DeQuattro even wrote a letter advising [the court] that I could suffer a heart attack or stroke if deprived of marijuana and that no other form of therapy is available." In 2006, that 23-year benchmark is 30 years. In a strange quirk of fate, DeQuattro had treated Kubby at L.A. County-USC Medical Center during the early 1980s. Before his tragic death in 2001, he was head of the medical center's Hypertension Diagnostic Laboratory. Astonished to see his former patient's name in the California voter's pamphlet for the November 1998 election, he contacted him to find out how he'd managed to survive. "He told me that he was treating himself with the advice of his physicians in northern California with marijuana, and has been taking no other medical therapy for several years," DeQuattro declared in his 1999 letter to the Placer County Superior Court. Kubby was subjected to a battery of tests that revealed lethal levels of adrenal hormones – 10 to 20 times normal – in his system. But for reasons that neither DeQuattro nor the other specialists could explain, cannabis appeared to be curbing the effects of the cancer and keeping it in remission. As DeQuattro put it: "In some amazing fashion, this medication has not only controlled the symptoms of the pheochromocytoma, but in my view has arrested its growth. I strongly endorse that you consider supplying Steve with sufficient supplies of his specific marijuana product in order to control his life threatening disease. … "Faith healers would term Steve's existence these past 10-15 years as nothing short of a miracle. In my view, this miracle, in part, is related to the therapy with marijuana. Marijuana contains many substances which can neutralize the effects of epinephrine and norepinephrine on the heart and vascular tissue." DeQuattro monitored Kubby's condition, treating the cancer with drugs and other conventional treatments. In the early 1980s, he referred him to Dr. James Sisson at the University of Michigan Medical Center in Ann Arbor for experimental radiation therapy and to the Mayo Clinic, at which time he lost touch with him and assumed he'd died.  'You've Got Six Months To Live' Kubby was first diagnosed with pheochromocytoma in 1969, and doctors removed the tumor and his right adrenal gland at that time. That is the standard treatment for pheochromocytomas – most of which are benign. Only about 10 percent are malignant and deadly. His was one of them. According to Michele Kubby, his health seemed normal for six years. Then in 1975 a blood pressure test revealed something was very wrong. Two operations followed – in 1975 and 1976. The tumor had returned and his cancer had metastasized to his liver and other organs. "He was 28 years old, and there wasn't much they could do. So they removed a lot of the stuff and sewed him up and said, 'Well, you have six months to live,'" she told WND. Kubby and his doctors fought the disease with all the weapons available in the arsenal of modern medicine. "He did the chemotherapy, he did the radiation, and he was living on alpha and beta blockers," Michele said. "They had to give him such high amounts of blood pressure medication that he'd lie in bed completely comatose all day long, in constant pain, nauseous – and just ready to die." But he explored other forms of therapy, eventually giving up on conventional methods of dealing with the disease and developing a regimen based on a restricted diet and inhalation of cannabis. So far it's worked.  The Only Survivor When DeQuattro re-established contact in 1998 he contacted Sisson as well, who told him that every patient other than Kubby with the same condition had died: "Steve was the only survivor." Four years later, cancer specialist Joseph Connors, chair of the Lymphoma Tumor Group at the prestigious BC Cancer Agency in Vancouver, examined Kubby for the Canadian government and reached essentially the same conclusions as DeQuattro. "When locally recurrent or metastatic pheochromocytoma cannot be effectively treated with surgical removal or radio-MIBG, as is true in this case, it is incurable," Connors said in a recent letter to Michele Kubby summarizing his assessment and recommendations. "Empiric attempts to control the symptoms with marijuana proved successful, making this the current treatment of choice for his disease. For this reason, I have recommended continued medicinal use of inhaled marijuana for control of his potentially life-threatening catecholamine-related symptoms." As for Kubby's battle with Placer County law enforcement, Connors commented to WorldNetDaily: "I can't see what useful purpose is being served in forcing him not to use marijuana. It is apparently doing him some substantial good, and I don't see why he can't simply be permitted access to it while he proceeds through whatever other matters the courts wish to pursue. It doesn't make any sense to me." Connors, who was Kubby's physician in cancer-related matters, described his patient as being a "physically active man in excellent health – but he harbors this tumor that makes [catecholamines] that put his life in jeopardy." "If he's in trouble with the law, that's between him and the law, and I think they should follow through and do whatever they think they need to do," he added. "But I don't see what purpose is being served by putting his health and life in jeopardy during that time by forcefully depriving him of access to something that – with his years of experience using it – is apparently keeping him healthy." Documents and information regarding the Kubby case are posted at: http://www.kubby.comSarah Foster is a staff reporter for WorldNetDaily. Note: But cancer survivor Steve Kubby faces possible return to slammer.Source: WorldNetDaily (US Web)Author: Sarah FosterPublished: March 14, 2006Copyright: 2006 WorldNetDaily.com Inc.Contact: letters worldnetdaily.comWebsite: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/Related Articles & Web Site:The Kubby Chronicleshttp://www.kubby.org/ California Frees Pot Activisthttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread21647.shtmlNew Lawyer, New Strategy for Kubbyhttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread21602.shtml

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Comment #74 posted by Hope on March 17, 2006 at 09:34:17 PT
Whig, Bionic Man, and FoM's post on Kubby
I read that piece you posted Whig. It's frightening. Bionic Man, I'm so sorry about what happened. They definitely made a bad situation infinitely worse. Somehow, I actually lost a prescription for steriods before I got to the pharmacy and decided I didn't want it anyway. It was supposed to clear my eustatcion tubes and help my hearing. That was at the same time I was given the Leviquin that hurt me so badly. Steroids, I discovered would have made my bad reaction to Levaquin even worse and more dangerous. There is danger everywhere...even in the healing and help we hope to recieve from physicians.Steroids frightened me anyway, but I will always keep your warnings in mind. I knew they were bad, but I didn't know they could destroy your bones like that.About the Kubby article FoM just posted, Chris Cattran complained, "I believe there should be a just sentence for what he did – he was gone for five years,".Yeah, Chris. I do too. A "just sentence" would have been no sentence and even more true "justice" would mean you could never have laid your hands on the Kubbys in the first place.
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Comment #73 posted by bionic man on March 17, 2006 at 09:16:39 PT:
whig and hope 
You are correct that steroids can cause avascular necrosis. That is exactly what happened to me. I had a herniated disc that did not respond to therapy. I needed surgery but ins. co. denied coverage. The only thing that did provide relief was epidural steroid injections. This went on for over a year with multiple courses of steroids. Ended up having back surgery successfully however about six months after surgery I started having trouble walking and X-rays showed that my hips had collasped. 
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Comment #72 posted by FoM on March 17, 2006 at 08:44:08 PT

Update On Steve Kubby
Medical Marijuana Champion Back in Jail***Steve Kubby draws 60-day sentence for probation violation By Sarah FosterMarch 17, 2006Just nine days after being released from Placer County Jail because of good behavior and overcrowded conditions, Steven Wynn Kubby is behind bars again – this time on charges of violating probation. The 59-year-old medical marijuana advocate turned himself in at the jail late Wednesday to begin a 60-day sentence imposed the preceding day by Superior Court Judge Robert McElhany, who ruled that Kubby had violated probation when he moved to Canada in 2001 with his wife, Michele, and the couple's two young daughters to avoid a sentence for drug possession. A co-author of California's voter-approved Compassionate Use Act and the 1998 gubernatorial candidate for the Libertarian Party, Kubby seemed in far better spirits than at the beginning of his earlier stint. "I know everyone at the jail now so I told them – Get my suite ready," he joked to WorldNetDaily. Kubby, who has used marijuana for three decades to treat a fatal and incurable form of adrenal cancer, was incarcerated Jan. 27, following his arrest the evening before at San Francisco International Airport when his flight arrived from Vancouver, B.C. In a surprise move by county officials, Kubby was released from custody March 6, having served 40 days of the 120-day sentence handed down in 2001 for possession of a psychedelic mushroom stem and a couple of peyote buttons seized during a raid by sheriff deputies on his home near Lake Tahoe in January 1999. His medi-pot garden of marijuana plants – the reason for the bust – was also confiscated, but prosecutors were unable to convince the jury that Kubby was growing these for sale to compassion clubs rather than for legal personal use. The release ended his sentence for drug possession, but Kubby still faced a possible three years in state prison for violating his probation. He and his counsel hoped the prosecutor would drop any charges or that a judge would dismiss them. Christopher Cattran – the assistant district attorney who prosecuted Kubby on the marijuana and drug possession charges six years ago and still has control of the case – was pressing for a 240-day sentence. But during a closed-door session between attorneys for the two sides, Cattran agreed to a recommendation by the Probation Department and asked for 90 days' home detention. Kubby says even that would be too long. "I told the judge that if I have to sit around somewhere for three months, instead of being able to be out and earning a living to take care of my family, I'd just as soon go to jail," he said. McElhany apparently not only agreed, he knocked 30 days off – reducing the time from 90 to 60 days. If overcrowding at the jail continues and Kubby accumulates good behavior credits, it's possible he'll be out in as few as 30 or even 20 days. "There are no guarantees that'll happen," Kubby said. "But 60 days are better than 90; and a lot better than the 240 they started out at." Cattran told the Sacramento Bee that he feels a 60-day term for probation violation is "a little light," adding that Kubby was placed on three years' probation before going to Canada. "I believe there should be a just sentence for what he did – he was gone for five years," he complained. Kubby suffers from locally recurrent and metastatic pheochromocytoma, a cancer of the inner core of the adrenal gland that stimulates overproduction of a group of hormones called catecholemines, which include epinephrine (adrenaline) and norepinephrine. The constant overproduction causes episodes of soaring blood pressure, resulting in blinding headaches, strokes and even cardiac arrest. There is no cure for this rare but deadly cancer. Patients diagnosed with it can expect to live at most 10 years. By the time of his 2000 trial on pot-selling charges, Kubby had survived over 23 years using marijuana to treat his disease. It wasn't fear of incarceration as such that drove Kubby into self-imposed exile, but of being forced to forgo his use of marijuana. He was afraid – and doctors who examined him agreed – that without cannabis, the cancer he'd managed to keep in check for so many years would likely reassert itself and spread quickly to his heart, brain and other vital organs. "I believed my life was on the line," he said. Top cancer specialists who examined and treated him at USC Medical Center in Los Angeles in 1998, and later at the BC Cancer Agency in Vancouver, backed Kubby's assessment and warned that if deprived of marijuana he could die very quickly. They urged authorities to allow him access to cannabis in some form. Their requests were ignored. New use for Marinol While in jail Kubby will be allowed to use Marinol (dronabinol), as he was during his recent stay. Marinol is a legal, synthetic form of tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC, one of the most active ingredients in marijuana. It is prescribed to control the nausea and vomiting associated with chemotherapy, but not recognized or prescribed as a blood pressure medication. Fortunately, Kubby found it worked for him to curb the potentially lethal spikes in blood pressure, and thinks it might help others. "I have several tumors that are producing catecholomines," he explained. "But when I take marijuana or Marinol it interferes with the production by those tumors of the catecholomines. "So this is a new use for [Marinol]. And that's very, very significant because there's no other medicine that controls blood pressure at the source, at the production of catecholomines. Every other medicine interferes with the effects of the catecholomines – through alpha blockers, beta blockers, channel blockers, things like that. Besides cannabis, only Marinol – at least in my case – has been able to actually control the amount of catecholomines produced. "That is a brand-new kind of blood pressure medication that's working at the source," he said. Documents and information regarding the Kubby case are posted at http://www.kubby.comCopyright: 2006 WorldNetDaily.com Inc.http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=49302
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Comment #71 posted by whig on March 16, 2006 at 09:11:21 PT

Hope
AVN (avascular/aseptic necrosis) isn't what is so rare. There are a lot of different reasons (etiologies) that someone can develop this problem. My particular circumstance is unusual, because it is caused by a metabolic disorder. I think most cases are sequelae (subsequent to) bone injury -- someone breaks a bone and it doesn't heal up properly. I'm pretty sure steroid use can cause it as well.I found this linked from the Wikipedia entry:http://www.rad.washington.edu/mskbook/osteonecrosis.htmlThey claim steroid use is actually the most common cause.
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Comment #70 posted by Hope on March 16, 2006 at 09:00:44 PT

Steve Kubby
Punishment for legally (Prop. 215) growing a plant. Punishment that could easily be a death sentence for growing a plant that has saved him from a horrible death and actually improves...or it would, if not for the government, the quality of his and his family's life. It's a horrible world we have. And how many less high profile people that we don't even know about are going through the same tragic injustice somewhere else?
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Comment #69 posted by Hope on March 16, 2006 at 08:55:39 PT

Whig Post 67
I'm thankful you can get the medicine. Very thankful.It seems odd that it is so rare, yet we have at least two people with the problem here in our forum and that the doctor I saw about my arm, after seeing my x-rays, immediately thought that was what was happening to my shoulder.
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Comment #68 posted by FoM on March 16, 2006 at 07:15:57 PT

Update on Steve Kubby
Medipot Activist Returns To Jail After Early Release***New 60-day sentence for probation violation By Penne Usher, Journal Staff WriterWednesday, March 15, 2006  Just days after being released from Placer County Jail because of overcrowding, medical-marijuana activist Steve Kubby was ordered in an Auburn courtroom Tuesday to turn himself in to the Placer County Jail.Kubby, 59, appeared in court wearing a navy blue suit with his attorney E.D. Lerman, of Mendocino, and was ordered by Judge Robert McElhaney to begin serving a 60-day sentence today for a violation of probation charge."We feel really good about (the decision)," Lerman said. "Steve feels he needs to resolve this as soon as possible so he can be with his family."Kubby was released from custody March 6 after serving one-third of a 120-day sentence stemming from a 2000 conviction in Placer County for possession of psilocybin and mescaline.Kubby violated his original probation when he failed to return to the United States following a trip to Canada. He was deported in January from Canada back to California."He's going back to jail to address the violation of probation, that's all," Prosecutor Chris Cattran said. "Hopefully he'll be good and we won't see him again." 
 
Both the defense and prosecution wrangled behind closed doors for some time regarding possible sentencing for Kubby."The Probation Department offered 90 days and there was some talk as to whether they would add additional time," Lerman said.Cattran said outside the courtroom that the court could have ordered as much as 240 days jail time. Ultimately Cattran asked for 90 days, agreeing with the Probation Department's recommendation.Judge McElhaney decided that 60 days jail time was appropriate.Kubby told the court that he "appreciated" its decision to require only 60 days.It is possible that if jail overcrowding continues to be an issue Kubby could serve merely 20 days of his current sentence.The jail is federally mandated to release inmates when it reaches a 90 percent capacity to avoid reaching 100 percent capacity of 540 inmates.Copyright: 2006 Gold Country Mediahttp://www.auburnjournal.com/articles/2006/03/16/news/top_stories/06kubby.txt

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Comment #67 posted by whig on March 15, 2006 at 21:02:28 PT

Hope
The reason they can charge a quarter million dollars per year is something called the Orphan Drug Act. How it works is, scientists at the National Institutes of Health study the effectiveness of a specially created enzyme, using public money. Then a private company gets a special monopoly to manufacture this enzyme, because the size of the affected patient population is small and they can't make billions of dollars a year if they had to compete with other manufacturers. Then they encourage patients who cannot manage to get or keep health insurance to go on welfare, so that medicare will pay them their quarter million dollars every year, perhaps with a special 20% discount or something, I dunno.I might be oversimplifying a bit, but I think you get the gist.
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Comment #66 posted by Hope on March 15, 2006 at 20:39:55 PT

Oh my gosh, Whig.
Your pun is funny, but the problem, of course, is far from it. I'm so sorry.How can anyone charge anyone a quarter of a million dollars a year for the medicine they need?I hate this greedy world. It's so insane.Yes, I said "Hate". I've always hated the world after I understood what it really is, but tonight I'm hating some people, Souder and Burton especially. I imagine I'll come to grips with it before the sun goes down tomorrow. But right now...I'm truly despising them, hating them, for their latest stunts.http://blogs.salon.com/0002762/Don't you or Bionic Man hate though. It's not good for your bones. I feel the pain of it already in my old shoulder.
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Comment #65 posted by whig on March 15, 2006 at 20:26:20 PT

Hip Hip, Hooray, or something
Aseptic/avascular necrosis is the same thing. Apparently necrosis can be caused by infection, which would be septic, so "aseptic" just means no infection. But the blood supply is cut, and the bone marrow dies, and the hip collapses from brittleness.Hope, there's no cure for me. It's a genetically-caused condition. The enzyme is about a quarter million dollars a year, and I have to take it for the rest of my life. The only other alternative is worse, I could have a bone marrow transplant and be on immunosuppressants forever.
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Comment #64 posted by FoM on March 15, 2006 at 19:30:36 PT

Just a Comment
We are real people. We hurt. We care. We want to live. We want to be free. I hope and pray that those who oppose us read and maybe start to understand that we are good people.
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Comment #63 posted by Hope on March 15, 2006 at 19:25:30 PT

Whig and Bionic Man
I'm so sorry to hear what you guys are having to deal with. After x-rays and before the imaging thing, some sort of bone necrosis is what the doctor thought was happening in my shoulder joint. I was lucky. It was just broken in two, clear through. Good to hear about that enzyme, Whig. They can't cure what you'll are suffering from? Are you always going to have to deal with it? 
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Comment #62 posted by bionic man on March 15, 2006 at 18:16:43 PT:

whig
I had avascular necrosis . My first hip repl.were pretty much pain free for a number of years however the revisions were a nightmare ,mostly because of my surgeon. He turned out not to be the wonder boy I and a lot of other people thought he was. Suffered a dislocation (trust me you don't want this to happen)and that accounts for most of residual pain.
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Comment #61 posted by whig on March 15, 2006 at 17:52:47 PT

bionic man
Awful. If I'd let them replace my left hip ten years earlier, I'd have been getting a revision within ten years after that, too. My condition causes aseptic necrosis of all my bones, but the enzyme I take should help prevent that from progressing further.Are you still in a lot of pain?
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Comment #60 posted by FoM on March 15, 2006 at 17:51:57 PT

bionic man 
You name sure fits.
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Comment #59 posted by FoM on March 15, 2006 at 17:48:02 PT

Hope
You must have missed it. This is a long thread. It's down at 2.http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread21662.shtml#2
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Comment #58 posted by Hope on March 15, 2006 at 17:43:20 PT

Here's the url to the original story
http://www.sacbee.com/content/breakingnews/story/14230108p-15053039c.html
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Comment #57 posted by Hope on March 15, 2006 at 17:19:30 PT

bionic man
Oh my! I had a feeling you might have had to endure stuff like that just because of your name. That's rough.
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Comment #56 posted by bionic man on March 15, 2006 at 17:16:34 PT:

scars
I can relate to having a mess of scars. I've had back surgery, both hips replaced, revision surgery of rt. hip-(ball ,liner,cup repl.), revision surgery of lf.hip x2. I measured them for a total of 58 inches. No micro surgery here! LOL 
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Comment #55 posted by Hope on March 15, 2006 at 17:15:08 PT

Surgeries
That doctor said I tore something too and had to have surgery to repair it. He showed me an x-ray. Somehow, I doubted him so bad on every level, I just couldn't do it. I even doubted that was my x-ray. My son has had a couple of knee surgeries. I'm glad you and Stick are ok, now.My old doctor knew how I am and he respected my decisions not to do some of the things he suggested. He would work with me. My new doctor, I think, resents it.I can't believe they are sending Kubby back to jail. Why aren't they afraid they will kill him?
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Comment #54 posted by FoM on March 15, 2006 at 16:34:13 PT

Hope
My husband had knee surgery. When he was crushed between the semis it twisted him in such a way that it tore something in his knee. I've had 5 major abdominal surgerys. My poor stomach ( the micro surgery wasn't available then ) is so full of scars but it's ok now. 
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Comment #53 posted by Hope on March 15, 2006 at 16:27:15 PT

Whig
I'm so glad you are still seeing him. A orthopedic surgeon told me I had to have surgery on my knee. It scared me bad...he scared me bad. I pretty much decided, before I even got to the parking garage outside the medical complex, I just didn't trust him and couldn't do it and started using large doses of that Chondrointin glucosamine stuff (Ground up shrimp shells is what they are, I think), and extra vitamin E and Zinc, and used the insoles that Dr. Scholls makes or made that were supposed to relieve knee and back pain. Those insoles helped and I wore them inside good athletic shoes for years. Now I just live in the Adidas Ozweego shoes. I did use ace bandages and a few different braces...I liked the bandage better. Being that I'm quite active and a bit clumsy...well a lot clumsy, (unless I'm dancing) I still twist my knees pretty often, but they hold up well now. They rarely bother me now and if they do, I do the glucosomine, chondrointin, and vitamin thing again for a few days and I'm good to go again for months. Originally, I did it with about triple doses of all of them for about three weeks to heal up the round that had just crippled and devastated me for a few weeks, to the point I had to see a doctor. When my husband and daughter both had rounds of knee trouble it helped them, too. I'm one person who will go way out of my way and to a lot of trouble to avoid the knife...and that Doctor was just scary.A good chiropracter is a life saver.
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Comment #52 posted by Hope on March 15, 2006 at 16:09:31 PT

Oh no!
The lunatics are sending Steve Kubby back to jail!http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v06/n318/a05.html?397
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Comment #51 posted by whig on March 15, 2006 at 15:48:54 PT

Chiro
Right now my left knee feels like a mess. He was working the hip a little bit on Tuesday, and said it released pretty significantly. My whole left side is basically way tense compared to my right, but I've had a hip replacement there.
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Comment #50 posted by whig on March 15, 2006 at 15:47:20 PT

Hope
You don't have to register. If you just click the photo, it should bring up a slideshow.
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Comment #49 posted by Hope on March 15, 2006 at 15:33:35 PT

Whig
Only one of your photographs ever became visible on my computer...and I registered with them, too. The titles of the pictures came up but all but the first were blank.:0(It's wonderful that you're excited about moving to California. Don't forget to find a good chiropracter, though. Heck...keep seeing the one where you are. He can do a lot for you before July. 
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Comment #48 posted by FoM on March 15, 2006 at 14:40:16 PT

Whig
I think we can change a spirit of a place but out in Berkeley it's where it should be. That probably is one of the only places that think right. 
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Comment #47 posted by whig on March 15, 2006 at 13:52:41 PT

BART
I was really amazed to read about how they sunk this under the Bay. Apparently they did not actually dig a tunnel under the water, they built these cylindrical pieces and took them out into the bay on barges, then lowered them to the bottom, connected them and anchored them to the seabed. It's quite an engineering project.
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Comment #46 posted by whig on March 15, 2006 at 13:45:40 PT

#43
We can all do our bit to change the spirit of the place where we are, I think. And over time it can change, but it's a slow process because you have a kind of social inertia.
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Comment #45 posted by FoM on March 15, 2006 at 13:41:41 PT

whig
I just did. It worked great thanks.
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Comment #44 posted by whig on March 15, 2006 at 13:38:34 PT

Oops
That map link didn't work....Just look up Berkeley, CA and zoom out.
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Comment #43 posted by FoM on March 15, 2006 at 13:37:34 PT

whig
I believe you are going to see and learn so much being out there. I believe that cities and towns have a spirit about them. They never change. Once it's established it stays. I am looking forward to what you learn when you are there. I love learning. If I stopped wanting to learn I would think what's the use in even trying. I still have a wide eyes wonder at it all.
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Comment #42 posted by whig on March 15, 2006 at 13:33:41 PT

Map for FoM
http://www.google.com/lochp?hl=en&tab=wl&q=
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Comment #41 posted by whig on March 15, 2006 at 13:31:53 PT

FoM
The San Francisco Bay is sort of like a slightly open mouth, with two peninsulas nearly closing it off from the ocean. The Golden Gate bridge connects the North (Sausalito) and South (San Francisco) lips. On the other side of the bay from SF (over the Bay Bridge, or under the water on BART) is the city of Oakland. Berkeley is just North of Oakland.In other words, yeah, it's 20 minutes to San Francisco.
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Comment #40 posted by FoM on March 15, 2006 at 12:59:27 PT

Whig
Is Berkeley next to San Francisco? Your pictures show the Golden Gate Bridge. This is the address of World Link TV. Do you have a video camera. You might be wearing flowers in your hair before too long. ( Only Kidding ) Contact Link TV Link Media, Inc.P.0. Box 2008San Francisco, CA 94126-2008http://www.linktv.org/
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Comment #39 posted by whig on March 15, 2006 at 12:46:45 PT

FoM
I have "To-Berkeley-Osis" -- kind of like my wife's "Senior-itis," just a desire to get on with it. Once we decided to go, I can't wait to get settled, but we can't leave until after my wife's graduation anyhow, and then it still won't be before July. But apart from saying my goodbyes around here, I feel like I'm spinning my wheels for a few more months.
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Comment #38 posted by Hope on March 15, 2006 at 08:39:02 PT

correction to my comment #32
"And we're wasting a small fortune of tax money on a war on our citizens to keep them from using non pharma drugs."Actually, they aren't wasting a "small" fortune. It's absolutely huge and beyond the comprehension of many.The drug war is an excuse to do horrendous things to citizens and it gives us nothing but disaster and all too often death. If they can't find any reason to act like Storm Troopers...the Drug War will provide it every time.
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Comment #37 posted by FoM on March 15, 2006 at 08:27:11 PT

No News So Far
I'll keep looking but we are watching Democracy Now with Amy Goodman on World Link TV ( I'm waiting for someone to say this is a Commie channel or something ) Oh Whig I can't wait until you get settled in in Berkeley. You will have so much to tell us.Now they are arresting Vietnam War people who ran from the Armed Services. Over 8,000 have deserted from this war.
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Comment #36 posted by FoM on March 15, 2006 at 07:35:32 PT

Waco, Dupont and Things We Don't Know
I am getting a late start today because I tried to stay up and watch Waco but I got really sleepy and went to bed. I couldn't go to sleep very easily because it kept going thru my mind. Hopefully it will repeat and I will get to see it today. MSNBC and CNN are good entertainment news channels. They do a great job when we have a major event but when it comes to news that we can use to help us learn and make changes they are seriously lacking. World Link TV and Current TV ( for younger folks mostly ) are good educational news programs. CNews is alternative news too. We know more then the average person about why marijuana is illegal. Now we are learning about the prison industrial complex because of Jerry. If we allow our minds to think outside political party beliefs and really desire to learn we will learn. Politics freezes people and stops our mental growth. Waco is coming on World Link TV at 1 PM today so I will watch it. I only saw a little about Waco because we were on the road during that year but this documentary will help me understand it better.
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Comment #35 posted by jose melendez on March 15, 2006 at 02:14:23 PT

modus operandi
Oklahoma City Bombing (1995)photo - April 19, 1995: The Alfred Murrah Federal BuildingThe DEA was again touched by tragedy on April 19, 1995, when a bomb exploded at the Alfred E. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, and killed 168 people, including 19 children. Five DEA employees were killed and three additional DEA personnel sustained injuries in the explosion. DEA offices on the seventh and ninth floors were completely destroyed. Twenty-seven employees had been assigned to the DEA's Oklahoma City Resident Office, including ten DEA special agents, four DEA diversion investigators, three secretaries, and several task force personnel.Within minutes of the blast, DEA agents were assisting the fire and rescue workers in evacuating the federal building. The DEA sent personnel from the Tulsa, McAlester, Dallas, Tyler, Lubbock, St. Louis, Los Angeles, Ft. Lauderdale, and San Antonio Offices to assist in rescue and investigative efforts. By the first afternoon, the DEA had a command post set up at the scene and a DEA trauma team was providing counseling for the survivors. The rescue efforts were extremely difficult and time consuming, and DEA employees joined in the search for lost personnel. The first priority was to locate the bodies of the employees that were unaccounted for and to take care of their families.On April 21, 1995, the DEA confirmed the deaths of two employees assigned to the Oklahoma City Resident Office, Kenneth G. McCullough and Carrie Ann Lenz and her unborn son, Michael James Lenz, III. Mrs. Lenz was six months pregnant with her first child. Rescue workers next recovered the bodies of DEA employee Rona L. Chafey and DynCorp Legal Technician Shelly Bland. During the early morning hours of April 24, 1995, workers recovered the body of office assistant Carrol Fields from the ruins.Upon learning of the deaths, DEA Administrator Constantine flew to Oklahoma City to offer support to the grieving families. He stated that "Our condolences go out to the families of these...good people, and to all the families who have lost loved ones in this cowardly and inhumane attack. The entire DEA family mourns their loss." Administrator Constantine then pledged to commit the DEA's "resources and professional expertise, in collaboration with other agencies, to bring all of the perpetrators of this crime to justice."On June 2, 1997, Timothy McVeigh was convicted of 11 counts of conspiracy and first-degree murder after a jury trial. The same panel later recommended the death penalty for the murders of 168 people, including eight federal law enforcement agents, in the April 19, 1995, bombing.For their heroic actions in response to the Oklahoma City Bombing, Midwest City Police Corporal Regina Bonny and DEA Special Agent David Schickedanz were recipients of the 1996 Police Officer of the year Award given by Parade and the International Association of Chiefs of Police. Regina Bonny was an undercover narcotics officer on assignment with the DEA at the time of the explosion. After initially being knocked unconscious by the blast, she assisted an ATF officer before exiting the collapsed building. Although she was injured (and was later diagnosed with irreparable nerve damage, brain injury, and hand and shoulder wounds), she returned to the building, sprinted up the stairs to the ninth floor, and searched for other DEA employees. David Schickedanz was in an elevator with ATF supervisor Alex McCauley when the explosion dropped the elevator six floors. After he escaped from the elevator through a trap door, he returned to the destroyed DEA office to look for survivors. He suffered from smoke inhalation and a partial loss of hearing.After the bombing, the DEA Oklahoma City Resident Office made efforts to recover some of the law enforcement resources lost in the explosion. The office rebuilt its record file by obtaining copies of any records available at headquarters. As all evidence at the office was destroyed, the evidence collection had to be completely rebuilt. The DEA relocated the office to 990 Broadway Extension, Oklahoma City, approximately 10 miles from the former Murrah Building.from: http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/pubs/history/1994-1998.html
DEA, DynCorp: Demonstrably Corrupt
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Comment #34 posted by Hope on March 14, 2006 at 23:58:20 PT

Whatever Matt did,
it must have worked. I haven't had an error message since his last effort.
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Comment #33 posted by Hope on March 14, 2006 at 23:57:02 PT

Oklahoma City Federal Building
I'll never understand why no agents at all were in that building the day of the explosion. A person can't help but believe they knew.
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Comment #32 posted by Hope on March 14, 2006 at 23:54:27 PT

That article about Dupont and Dioxin
mentions oysters. We eat smoked oysters fairly often. One grandchild loves them. I made oyster stew for everyone last week. Even the dog got his share. There's a can of big oysters in the cabinet right now. Dang.Tuna has mercury. Shrimp has something. Beef products have Mad Cow. Poultry and eggs have bird flu. Just when we get past trichonosis (sp. but I don't want to look it up. It's late.)probably Mad Pig is just around the corner. It's looking like it's time to be a vegetarian again. Except there's an outbreak every once in a while with contaminated fruit and vegetables being sold.I can't go the rice and beans or potatoes route. Low carb has been amazingly good for my health. Looks like I'm going to be eating more peanut butter. I have a little neice who is deathly allergic to peanuts and I could hurt her if I got even a trace of it near her.:0(And we're wasting a small fortune of tax money on a war on our citizens to keep them from using non pharma drugs.
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Comment #31 posted by whig on March 14, 2006 at 23:51:35 PT

Waco/OKC/WTC
I remember the reaction to Waco, and it just kept growing until the Oklahoma City Federal Building was "conveniently" demolished.We forget about that one since 9/11, don't we?
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Comment #30 posted by Hope on March 14, 2006 at 23:37:42 PT

Waco
I just can't bear to watch it right now. I was reading some stuff about it a few days ago. It's so painful.Thanks though for telling me about the program. It was so awful. I still remember clearly the day of the fire and the pictures of it. It's still hard to believe something like that happened. The morning of the raid...it's awful to remember and them hanging bedsheets out the window with signs for help written on them. That could have all been handled so differently...but no...they had to make a big show of it. The Drug War had something to do with that, too. They try to say is was about those little girls supposedly having sex with Koresh, but I remember clearly what they said at first and quit saying after awhile. They believed they were manufacturing drugs there, is why they went in like that. Oh right. Anything is ok as long as it's about drug warrioring. It's all so idiotic. Everything about the WoD is idiotic. It's like it's an excuse for blatant idiocy on the part of the drug warriors.It was a horror playing out before our eyes.
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Comment #29 posted by FoM on March 14, 2006 at 21:25:25 PT

Hope
We were told to visit those that are in prison. It never said to put them in prison. I saw Dioxin, Duplicity & Dupont over the weekend. http://www.sierraclubtv.org/This plant was damaged during the hurricanes but have they warned the people? I don't think so. I'm watching the Waco documentary at 1 AM since I missed it earlier. If cable companies don't carry World Link TV they should be contacted and should make it available. We need a voice. We need to know. We can't help anyone or anything if we don't know what is happening.Spotlight: Waco - The Rules of Engagementhttp://www.linktv.org/programming/programDescription.php4?code=waco
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Comment #28 posted by Hope on March 14, 2006 at 21:13:39 PT

FoM
I believe it, too.And I think about that commissary, and people with very little are being robbed to pay people like Barbara Bush dividends. Her company is the ONLY one that stocks Federal Prison Commissaries, nation wide. They have exclusive rights. We aren't a free country and we do have rulers besides the rule of law. It's sickening.God help us.
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Comment #27 posted by FoM on March 14, 2006 at 21:00:13 PT

Hope
That is unbelievable but I believe it.
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Comment #26 posted by Hope on March 14, 2006 at 20:43:43 PT

She said I could post it.
And I did ask her about someone in that area to visit Jerry and I gave her Jerry's page url. I just sent it, so I haven't heard back on that yet.I'll take out the author's name and address, although Kay Lee did say I could post anything she sent. But just to be safe, for his sake, I'll take out his pertinent information. 
Everywhere his name was I put "Name of Prisoner" and I removed the exact address and replaced it with "address".
It was in there several times...so I hope I got them all. If anyone can help him with the information he's asking for, let me know.-----------Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2006 12:48 PM
Subject: PRISON LABOR: A Prison Letter From a "Failure to File" InmateA Prison LetterThis is excellent. A pretty good legal researcher might able to help. If
so, please send Name of Prisoner case law or information as you fnd it.A Prison Letter
>From a "Failure to File" Inmate
Federal Drug war prisoner Name of PrisonerHi all,I just thought I would send out a few hints of what is in store for anyone
who thinks they are not afraid of the great USA government.The first thing you have to learn in here in prison is the language. Until
you do, you might as well be in another country. "Down" means in jail, "on
the street" means out of jail, "The Shoe" or "The Hole" means solitary
confinement 23 hours a day. A "CO" is a correctional Officer, and a "Cellie"
is your cell mate.I'm in a place called Butner. It's Butner, North Carolina. If you want a
good look at what this country is headed for, go break into a prison for a
couple of weeks. What you will be confronted with are incompetent people of
every race ....The camp is so overcrowded. Your calls are limited to 15 minutes each and
then you must wait 30 minutes before you can call back. .... The dinning
room seats 160, but there are 320 inmates here, and we all have to be
served, eat, and get out, in less than one hour. When the dinner bell rings
here you eat with a mission. Miss manners don't count and you always wear
your coat so you can cop an apple or orange for a snack later.Anybody that knows me, knows that I can strike up a conversation with a
telephone pole, and wind up knowing its entire history. Well there are lots
of stories in this place. Lots of them are very, very scary when it comes
to how the State and Federal Prosecutors are getting convictions, making
seizures, and getting admissions of guilt.After listening to these stories I really can see no difference between this
country and some 3rd world county. The biggest difference how much money
you have. If you do have money the government will do everything both legal
and illegal to take it from you. The lawyers are useless, they all say
plead guilty. I talked to a man today who was investigated for 5 years and
all they could come up with was mail fraud. His lawyer charged him 40K for
handling a guilty plea, telling him all the time he could only get 6 months,
he got 21 months.The government tactics are starting to develop into a pattern. If they
catch someone selling drugs, they pressure them with an inflated indictment
and 25 years to life, unless they roll over on some person the government
wants. If you don't help them they will put you, your family, and your
friends into jail. If you do help them, they discount the charge, let your
wife go, and forget about half the dope they caught you with.The other thing that is absolutely running rampant is the seizure thing.
The lawyers of this country are dumber than a box of rocks when it comes to
seizures. I have heard one horror story after the next concerning seizures.
The Feds make it a practice to seize everything you have no matter who owns
it when it is a drug charge.Now I don't support drug dealers at all, but on the other hand I don't
support the government breaking more laws than the drug dealer in order to
seize property that had nothing to do with a crime.Now for the thing that strikes near and dear to most folks here is Taxes.The scam by both State and Federal government is to overcharge an
indictment, scare the hell out of everyone, so they can get a plea of
guilty, then after they plea, the government starts adding up the tax you
owe on the drugs. That is right! Everyone check out the 1930 tax act and
you will see the Government's loss is based on a tax loss.So when you plead guilty to the indictment you will plead to possession with
interest to distribute some amount of drugs that is set out in a range. For
example: I talked today with a guy who got caught with 3 ounces of pot.
They took his bank account of 15K, his cash savings account 50K, his car and
house. His lawyer said he would only get probation or 6 months max. ....The Bureau of Prisons is making some serious money on inmates and it would
be interesting to investigate the CAFR or Books on some of those
corporations. Just a few examples are UNICOR. I'm not for sure who makes
the money off of Unicor but when you look at the overall picture you will
understand why the government wants lots of inmates with large fines,
assessments and taxes.Here there is a two year waiting list to get on a Unicor Job. The Unicor
Jobs pay more than the other jobs here at the camp. I'm not sure about all
the pay scales but I started at the power plant making $0.12 per hour. ....It takes $70.00 per month to pay for the phone. You also have to buy
everything new from the government commissary and then they take every
single thing from you when you come in and mail it home. They even take
your medicine.The account you set up is called a commissary account, you fund your phone
account from your commissary account. After you have been here 6 months
they look at how much money is being sent in and if you have too much sent
in they will cause you to renegotiate your contract to make restitution.You start out with say $25.00 per quarter, then they might just tell you
your new contract will be for $50.00 per month. Now you might be under the
presumption that a contract requires you to agree to the terms. HA HA HA.
You are about to see extortion at it's finest. If you refuse to "agree to
the contract" at whatever rate they say, they will stop your visitation
privileges, take away any furlough you might qualify for, reduce the amount
you can purchase in the commissary, take away your phone privileges.So it's a simple concept: The Feds Seize property from your family because
you are in jail. The Feds extort you and your family because you love them
and want to see and visit them.Let me back up a second and talk a little more about Unicor. They
manufacture things generally for the government. Here they make stuff for
the Post Office and the military. The manufacturing facilities are in
direct competition with American Industry. Except Taxpayers build the
factories and the labor is slave labor. It's pretty hard for the American
Industry to compete under those circumstances.I'm thinking about doing some writing while I'm in here, besides my appeal
and sentence reduction offer. If you think prison law libraries are any
good don't compare them to this one. We don't even have a copy of the Code
of Federal Regulations.I know you guys are the best researchers in the world, so this wish list
will be pretty easy. I need cases that say that a court does not have
jurisdiction if all the elements of the crime are not presented and pled in
the indictment.Also any cases that might be out there that say that the court cannot accept
jurisdiction just because a person pleads into the case.At one time someone put together a pretty good list of authorities for lots
of different situations. I would sure like to have that list.If anyone has saved the little article that I wrote on Jurisdictional
elements versus essential elements I really need a copy of that too.My address is:Name of Prisoner and Number
Federal Prison Camp
Address
Butner, NC 27059Please don't sent anything over 1 lb. And remember all incoming mail is
opened and probably read. (They say) as far as I know the outgoing mail is
not read.My descriptions of this place are just a touch on the high spots. I will
send more later.God Bless us All,
Name of Prisoner
Sat, 11 Mar 2006
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Comment #25 posted by FoM on March 14, 2006 at 20:04:52 PT

Hope
Thanks!
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Comment #24 posted by FoM on March 14, 2006 at 20:03:50 PT

Hope
We are getting a lesson in the way things are. It's hard to see some things but it's also necessary that we do.
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Comment #23 posted by Hope on March 14, 2006 at 20:01:34 PT

Kay Lee and prison issues
Ok. I'll get right on it.
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Comment #22 posted by Hope on March 14, 2006 at 20:00:04 PT

Comment 20
That's what I thought, too. I never dreamed they could take the money like that.
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Comment #21 posted by FoM on March 14, 2006 at 19:55:44 PT

Hope
Could you ask Kay Lee if she could find someone to visit Jerry since her passion is prison issues? That would help so much.
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Comment #20 posted by FoM on March 14, 2006 at 19:52:36 PT

 Hope 
Yes I want to know that too. We want to help Jerry and my logic is if there was too much money sent then when he was released it would go home with him. They will need money just to get back on their feet.
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Comment #19 posted by Hope on March 14, 2006 at 19:49:49 PT

Now what?
I was delighted when I was thinking of money coming in from all over the country for Jerry's commissary account. I was thinking they'll be thinking, "A lot of people must love this guy." Then I read this. Maybe Runruff's wife can tell us if there is a restitution or fine thing contracted for Jerry. Maybe not. I don't know, but we need to know.

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Comment #18 posted by FoM on March 14, 2006 at 19:49:02 PT

Hope
If Kay Lee says it's ok maybe remove the persons name and then it won't hurt him or her in anyway.
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Comment #17 posted by Hope on March 14, 2006 at 19:44:11 PT

Sent her an email and will wait for her response.
It's a letter within her email...from a prisoner. I guess I could take pertinent parts from it.One excerpt would be:"It takes $70.00 per month to pay for the phone. You also have to buy everything new from the government commissary and then they take every single thing from you when you come in and mail it home. They even take your medicine. The account you set up is called a commissary account, you fund your phone account from your commissary account. After you have been here 6 months they look at how much money is being sent in and if you have too much sent in they will cause you to renegotiate your contract to make restitution. You start out with say $25.00 per quarter, then they might just tell you your new contract will be for $50.00 per month. Now you might be under the presumption that a contract requires you to agree to the terms. HA HA HA. You are about to see extortion at it's finest. If you refuse to "agree to the contract" at whatever rate they say, they will stop your visitation privileges, take away any furlough you might qualify for, reduce the amount you can purchase in the commissary, take away your phone privileges. So it's a simple concept: The Feds Seize property from your family because you are in jail. The Feds extort you and your family because you love them and want to see and visit them."
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Comment #16 posted by FoM on March 14, 2006 at 19:35:54 PT

Hope
I think it's ok. I guess when I see something in a list I think it's ok to post unless I can tell it's for the list only. Most times someone will say it is for the list only if they don't want it circulated.
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Comment #15 posted by Hope on March 14, 2006 at 19:33:31 PT

If you like
I'll send her an email, but I'm sure she wouldn't care. She'd likely appreciate it. She already posted it to our DPFT list.

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Comment #14 posted by FoM on March 14, 2006 at 19:28:49 PT

Hope
Sure you can if it's ok with Kay Lee.
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Comment #13 posted by Hope on March 14, 2006 at 19:25:07 PT

FoM
May I please post an email that came from Kay Lee today? It's about what's going on in our prisons and about commissary accounts as well.
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Comment #12 posted by FoM on March 14, 2006 at 18:42:56 PT

Jose
They probably gave Jerry the letter.
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Comment #11 posted by FoM on March 14, 2006 at 18:41:13 PT

Toker00
That's the way I see it too. I try very hard to follow directions and I know Jerry got our letter because he wrote to us.
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Comment #10 posted by Toker00 on March 14, 2006 at 18:33:05 PT

Jose
A former post explained that no letters could be sent with the money orders. They have to be seperate. I know Kubby got his money order, because he thanked me in a letter. Try sending Jerry the money order seperately. I'm sending one too.Toke.
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Comment #9 posted by Jose Melendez on March 14, 2006 at 18:27:57 PT

crooks
Well, Devens claims they cannot forward anything but did not return the letters. I'll send it to Iowa.
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Comment #8 posted by FoM on March 14, 2006 at 17:58:28 PT

Jose 
I wonder if we need to find out a way to know if Jerry is getting the money. I have the receipt numbers right here. With a check you get a record. I just looked and there is a number but how to you determine if it went into Jerry's account? I wish they took checks. We didn't send a letter with the money. They go to two different places. The letter we sent went to Mass and the money went to Iowa. If you sent the money to Mass that could be why it was sent back.Contact info; mail: Jerry Sisson Reg#66424-065    FMC Devens Federal Medical Center    P.O. #879 Devens Ma 01434 visiting: thurs-sun      FMC Devens 42 Patton rd. Devens Ma.*** commissary: attn: Commissary     Federal Bureau of Prisons     Jerrry Sisson reg# 66424-065     p.o. #474701 Desmoine Iowa 50947-0001 they accept money orders and cashiers checks.     
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Comment #7 posted by Jose Melendez on March 14, 2006 at 17:48:56 PT

why indeed
Apparently enclosing a three page letter is grounds to refuse the check, which is why I'm guessing Kubby will not receive his. If he does not receive the mail, is that mail theft? - - -Activism: $108.40 plus postage and money order fees Chance to expose entire system of marijuana prohibition as fraud: Priceless.

Wasted?
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Comment #6 posted by FoM on March 14, 2006 at 17:23:46 PT

Jose
Why did they return the money order? We sent a money order as far as I know they took ours I hope.
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Comment #5 posted by Jose Melendez on March 14, 2006 at 17:20:37 PT

crooks
Devens returned Jerry Sisson's money order, but they decided to keep the three pages I enclosed. I have no faith Kubby received his check either. Justice left.
Justice, RIGHT. Stop or we'll sue, and sue, and sue . . .
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Comment #4 posted by FoM on March 14, 2006 at 16:58:29 PT

Jose
Remember it is Steve and Michele and their lawyers who make the decisions not us. 
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Comment #3 posted by jose melendez on March 14, 2006 at 16:54:57 PT

what we get for waiting
Here's what we get for keeping quiet. This judge knows Kubby is being railroaded, they even dressed up for Halloween, but say it's not a witch trial. What is it, a Darth Vader and Bozo trial?http://www.news10.net/storyfull2.aspx?storyid=16466
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Comment #2 posted by FoM on March 14, 2006 at 15:39:28 PT

Marijuana Activist Being Sent Back To Jail
By Art Campos -- Bee Staff WriterTuesday, March 14, 2006Recently released from the Placer County jail because of overcrowding, medical marijuana advocate Steven Wynn Kubby is being sent back.Kubby was sentenced Tuesday to a 60-day term by a judge who determined that the 59-year-old activist had violated his probation in 2001 by moving to Canada rather than serve a 120-day stretch for a drug conviction. He will report to the jail Wednesday. Kubby said he again hopes for an early release because of good behavior and possible jail overcrowding."Hopefully, I can serve just 20 days of it, but I've been given no guarantees," he said.Kubby left the United States five years ago, contending he would die in the Placer jail if not allowed to use cannabis to treat his medical condition, which Kubby has described as a rare form of adrenal cancer.But Canadian officials deported him and he was arrested Jan. 26 when his airplane landed at San Francisco International Airport. He was then sent to Placer to serve his 120-day sentence for the drug conviction but was released early due to overcrowding at the Placer jail. Disallowed cannabis in jail, Kubby took Marinol, a prescription drug that contains a synthetic form of THC, the active ingredient in marijuana.http://www.sacbee.com/content/breakingnews/story/14230108p-15053039c.html
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Comment #1 posted by mayan on March 14, 2006 at 06:56:10 PT

LIVING PROOF
In 1976, doctors told Kubby he had six months to live. Twenty-two years later, he was very much alive, athletic, politically active and running for the governorship of California.THIRTY YEARS LATER, Kubby is being harrassed by drug warriors who would deny him the very medicine that has kept him alive all this time. Steve Kubby is living proof that cannabis has medicinal value. Cannabis should be removed from Schedule One immediately. 
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