Prominent Pot Activist Facing Extradition To U.S.

  Prominent Pot Activist Facing Extradition To U.S.

Posted by CN Staff on July 30, 2005 at 06:50:10 PT
By Rod Mickleburgh  
Source: Globe and Mail  

Vancouver, B.C. -- Marc Emery, Canada's most prominent pro-marijuana activist, is facing the possibility of life imprisonment in the United States for selling marijuana seeds over the Internet to U.S. customers.In a stunning development, RCMP officers arrested the self-proclaimed "Prince of Pot" in Halifax yesterday after a U.S. federal grand jury indicted him on charges of conspiracy to distribute marijuana seeds, conspiracy to distribute marijuana and conspiracy to engage in money laundering.
The charges stem from Mr. Emery's lucrative sale of marijuana seeds, an activity he has carried on from his Vancouver base with minimal legal penalty for 10 years."I've sold about four million seeds," the marijuana mogul boasted in a 2002 media interview. "Unlike most other seed dealers, I use my real name and I'm easy to find."U.S. drug-enforcement officials said they will seek Mr. Emery's extradition from Canada to stand trial in Seattle, where conviction on either of the marijuana charges carries a minimum prison term of 10 years to a maximum of life. Special Agent Rodney Benson of the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency said Mr. Emery, 47, has distributed millions of cannabis seeds to U.S. customers over the years, earning as much as $3-million annually. "I am pleased to announce that he is out of business as of today," Mr. Benson told a Seattle news conference. "His overblown arrogance and abuse of the rule of law will no longer be on display. Like other drugs, marijuana harms the innocents."By mid-afternoon, an attempt to access Mr. Emery's business on the Internet produced a message, in large red letters: "Emery Seeds has been raided by the DEA and is shut down."The arrest of Mr. Emery, also head of the B.C. Marijuana Party, was accompanied by a simultaneous Vancouver Police raid of party headquarters on the edge of the city's drug-ravaged Downtown Eastside.Police were acting on a search warrant signed by Associate Chief Justice Patrick Dohm of the B.C. Supreme Court, who agreed there were reasonable grounds to believe that the three conspiracy charges "over which the United States of America has jurisdiction have been committed."Mr. Emery's supporters, four of whom were carted away for lying down in front of a police van, were outraged by the day's events.Puffing openly on marijuana, they pounded drums, chanted at passing motorists and brandished signs damning the DEA for intruding into Canada. "I was completely shocked," said well-known pot activist David Malmo-Levine, who took his fight against Canada's marijuana laws to the Supreme Court of Canada."It's appalling for the U.S. to come in here and try to police our country. To arrest Canadians to face their penalties and their laws is completely wrong," he said, standing in front of an upside down U.S. flag with the words "DEA Go Away" on it.Two other marijuana activists were also arrested in Vancouver on the same charges as Mr. Emery, at the request of U.S. authorities yesterday -- Michelle Rainey-Fenkarek, 34, and Gregory Williams, 50. Television footage showed an undercover officer wearing a balaclava bundling Mr. Williams into a police vehicle. The extradition hearing is certain to highlight a clash between the Draconian drug laws of the United States and Canada's more benign approach to marijuana use.Only last week, the B.C. Court of Appeal rejected a two-year jail term for a convicted marijuana grower as excessive, while Ottawa is moving to decriminalize possession of small amounts of pot. Assistant U.S. attorney Jeff Sullivan said there is no chance of marijuana being legalized in the United States. "Marijuana is not a benign drug. There are more kids in treatment for addiction to marijuana than for all other illegal drugs combined," Mr. Sullivan claimed.Last year, Mr. Emery spent two months in a Saskatoon jail for passing a joint around at a pro-pot rally, the only time he has been sent to prison for any of his 11 marijuana-related convictions in Canada.U.S. officials praised the "outstanding co-operation" of Canadian law-enforcement agencies in their 18-month investigation of Mr. Emery's seed business, 75 per cent of which they said was aimed at Americans.Source: Globe and Mail (Canada) Author: Rod Mickleburgh Published: Saturday, July 30, 2005 - Page A7Copyright: 2005 The Globe and Mail CompanyContact: letters globeandmail.caWebsite: -- Canada Archives

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Comment #92 posted by Hope on August 06, 2005 at 15:36:51 PT
Who will be there...?
I will rest into the arms of Him who I have believed in.
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Comment #91 posted by global_warming on August 06, 2005 at 15:19:38 PT
She is too young for me,
002-5697296-8924056?v=glance&s=music&n=507846See what I mean by them long addresses..hope you can paste them together.Check the free songs.On period instruments.Much like a mutt, America is held together,By many people, in trust and in truth, The worlds of geopolitics may be very important, yet the common cockroach refuses to go away, much like that blessed mutt.Who will be there to hold you up in your last moments?.
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Comment #90 posted by Hope on August 06, 2005 at 10:44:06 PT
"Down To The River To Pray"
As I went down to the river to prayStudying about that good old way And who shall wear the 
starry crown?Good Lord show me the way!O Sisters let's go down Lets go down, Come on downOh Sisters lets go downDown in the river to prayAs I went down in the river to pray Studying about that good old wayAnd who shall wear the robe and crownGood Lord show me the wayOh Brothers lets go downLet's go down, Come on down Oh Brothers lets go downDown in the river to prayAs I went down in the river to prayStudying about that good old wayAnd who shall wear the starry crown?Good Lord show me the wayOh Fathers lets go down Let's go down, Come on downOh Fathers lets go downDown in the river to prayAs I went down in the river to pray Studying about that good old wayAnd who shall wear the robe and crown Good Lord show me the way Oh Mothers lets go downCome on down, don't you want to go down?Oh Mothers lets go down Down in the river to prayAs I went down in the river to prayStudying about that good old wayAnd who shall wear the starry crown?Good Lord show me the wayOh Sinners lets go down Lets go down, come on downOh Sinners lets go downDown in the river to prayAs I went down in the river to prayStudying about that good old wayAnd who shall wear the robe and crown?Good Lord show me the way
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Comment #89 posted by global_warming on August 04, 2005 at 16:02:49 PT
	  Shall we gather at the river,
  Where bright angels he has brought,
  With it's crystal tides forever
  Flowing by the throne of God  Yes, we'll gather at the river.
  The beautiful, the beautiful, river.
  Gather with the saints at the river,
  That flows by the throne of God  Ere we reach the shining river
  Lay we every burden down,
  Praise our spirits will deliver
  And provide our robe and crown.  Yes, we'll gather at the river.
  The beautiful, the beautiful, river.
  Gather with the saints at the river,
  That flows by the throne of God  Soon we'll reach the shining river,
  Soon our pilgimage will cease,
  Soon our happy hearts will quiver
  With the melody of peace.  Yes, we'll gather at the river.
  The beautiful, the beautiful, river.
  Gather with the saints at the river,
  That flows by the throne of God.
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Comment #88 posted by Hope on August 04, 2005 at 10:06:16 PT
Global Warming
I love your sad, watching, old, poetic soul. I'm looking forward to the day when there will be more joy in your postings.
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Comment #87 posted by global_warming on August 02, 2005 at 16:39:55 PT
OT:As Usual for GW prove prescription drugs are 16,400% more deadly than terrorists,..Trouble in the Land of the Free,.., I really dislike those long addresses,..When I used to post to CC, so many came down on me, the Green Goddesses and the like, I did inquire the age of those frequent posters, suspecting some youthful gathering, like an angel, Marc posted, and reminded the group, all that post and affirm this activism, should be welcomed.Thanks Marc, we are all here, and we are all still working, in our manifest ways, to deliver..Have you heard the story about the Son of Man?Peace and Strength,The children are hungry,They can taste the difference,That Milk of Human Kindness,That Nectar sought by all humans,Cannot ever accept,Some bottle feed,Some prescription,From the jaded "pharmacies"Some twisted news or study,May profitably confirm, To some and many,Like those that are fooled" Some of the time and many of the time,Even my old dog,Has to to be fooled,To swallow his medicine.As I watched Scott McLelene,Cover his sweaty and dead ass,The other Night,I wondered, how long could this walking dead man,Stand before the LightFeeling the Heat,That would rupture his heart?What is the Price,How much money, does it take to satisfy,The Legions, that exist for some useless prize?Gold and Soul, reflect, and sparkle againstThe Night, the cold hungry Night,Reason and LogicPaled by that sensual pallor,Hope sparkles and lights the way for all the Martyrs,The list of Martyrs, Spitama, Ahnaten, Buddha, Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed,Laid bare the wayOne Tear, from your eye,Can open the gate,That will flood your soul,With Light and Hope, andAssurance, that this living,Breathing Universe,Will Berth,The child of God,That Son of God,That stranger,Who will haunt you,And place a flower on your grave.
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Comment #86 posted by afterburner on August 02, 2005 at 06:51:04 PT
You're Welcome, FoM, & You Have Mail
The legal process going forward 
by Kirk Tousaw (01 Aug, 2005) A long legal process commences"There has been a lot of speculation about what happens next. First off, let me be clear about one thing: Marc, Michelle and Greg are not going to be taken to the US immediately. They have due process rights in Canada and there is a legal process. Those of you following Renee's case basically know the system: it is virtually identical for Marc, Michelle and Greg."more... 
The legal process going forward 
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Comment #85 posted by FoM on August 01, 2005 at 20:53:05 PT
Thanks afterburner
At least we have the Internet to learn more as time goes by. Do they have to disclose the charges tomorrow at the hearing? Does a defendent have a right to know the charges? Will he plead guilty or innocent or doesn't that happen tomorrow. I have so many questions.
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Comment #84 posted by afterburner on August 01, 2005 at 20:42:51 PT
FoM, Comment #65
I have heard Marc speak live many times. On more than one occasion he has publicly stated in front of dozens of witnesses in the audience that he *does* pay taxes on every dollar he earns! He knows what happened to Al Capone, and Marc will not allow the government of any nation to put him into that trap. The other reason he pays taxes is to get an indirect stamp of approval from the Canadian government. Internet businesses have a long-standing tradition of Not paying taxes outside their own jurisdiction. If Marc is guilty of not paying taxes outside his jurisdiction, so is virtually every e-business on the Internet. Don't make Marc a martyr. This case is b*llsh*t!As jose rightly pointed out, cannabis seeds have so little THC content that they are approved for food in the USA, despite the repeated attempts of the DEA to ban them. To attempt to make Marc responsible for the actions of seed-buyers is laughable. The US government perverts science, religion, and logic in their demonic, twisted persecution of all things cannabis.
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Comment #83 posted by FoM on July 31, 2005 at 20:43:49 PT
I'm not like you are but I am frazzled! That's not a nice feeling either. They think that cannabis can drive a person insane. I beg to differ. What they are doing to people can drive a person insane.
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Comment #82 posted by BGreen on July 31, 2005 at 20:23:56 PT
Thanks, FoM
By the way, I'm pissed off and I feel like I've been pissed on, but I'm not 'pissed of.' LOLThe Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #81 posted by ekim on July 31, 2005 at 20:10:28 PT
how about this Steve Kubby
how does Canada feel about the sentencing down here.have you Steve shown that the system is inhumane concerning
 Cannabis. Just the fact that Hemp is not allowed to be grown shows a complete breakdown in the USA Health Fields to the Farm Fields, Surly Canada has seen firsthand how the people and the planet have benifited by Canada growing and processing the Cannabis Plant for Medicine and many other products.I do hope that Willie and all the rest will make the fact that our Farmers are not allowed to compete in a open market while passing laws which give other Countrys access to our market is wrong and will sing about it '
---loud and proud ===============
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Comment #80 posted by jose melendez on July 31, 2005 at 20:03:44 PT
Yes, and it's more than they can ever chew . . .
By falling into Marc's trap, they risk public exposure and a rehashing in court of the Canadian ruling that states marijuana laws are nullified in Canada, and the simultaneous defenses that "Parliament Only Legislates. Courts only abrogate.", that it is unlawful to restrain trade based on economic protectionism, especially thanks to NAFTA and CAFTA, and so much more.Here they have made the crucial error of exposing their own false claims in U.S. courts, by battling an activist that can afford to fight back with a battery of attorneys and an ever awakening public that is sick and tired of being defrauded by big Pharma and their pocketed politicians, marsupial magistrates and wholly owned health regulatory agencies.We cannabists are among the largest demographic. We work hard, play harder, we think and reason and are aware that we make mistakes, so we compensate accordingly. They make rules against pot while they drink and pop pills. Crucify Jesus, and His Word becomes Gospel. Incarcerate Mandela, and he becomes President. Assassinate Dr. King, or the liberal John Kennedy and they become heroes.Ghandi apparently overthrew the corporate corruption of his day with grains of rice and salt.So also shall the King of Pot sprout a paradigm shift, with his simple yet powerful seeds, and the prohibitionists themselves have watered them with our tears and fertilized them with their own waste.from:" . . . (A)griculture changed early primitive society. The primitive Indians existed for centuries roaming the earth constantly hunting and gathering for seasonal foods and water. However, by 2000 B.C., Middle America was a landscape of very small villages, each surrounded by patchy fields of corn and other vegetables.Agents of change helped create a paradigm-shift moving scientific theory from the Plolemaic system (the earth at the center of the universe) to the Copernican system (the sun at the center of the universe), and moving from Newtonian physics to Relativity and Quantum Physics. Both movements eventually changed the world view. These transformations were gradual as old beliefs were replaced by the new paradigms creating "a new gestalt" (p. 112).Likewise, the printing press, the making of books and the use of vernacular language inevitable changed the culture of a people and had a direct affect on the scientific revolution. Johann Gutenberg's invention in the 1440's of movable type was an agent of change. Books became readily available, smaller and easier to handle and cheap to purchase. Masses of people acquired direct access to the scriputures. Attitudes began to change as people were relieved from church domination.Similarly, agents of change are driving a new paradigm shift today. The signs are all around us. For example, the introduction of the personal computer and the internet have impacted both personal and business environments, and is a catalyst for a Paradigm Shift. We are shifting from a mechanistic, manufacturing, industrial society to an organic, service based, information centered society, and increases in technology will continue to impact globally. Change is inevitable. It's the only true constant. "
Ending Fear
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Comment #79 posted by FoM on July 31, 2005 at 20:01:57 PT
Bravo! You always seem to be able to put in words what I fumble around to say. Thanks!
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Comment #78 posted by BGreen on July 31, 2005 at 19:55:29 PT
We're not divided, Steve
This is just another battle against us that is galvanizing our determination and turning us into the fighters we should be.I can't get the words of Patrick Henry out of my mind because I feel that we're in the same predicament now ... "Give me liberty or give me death."Unfortunately, just like in Patrick Henry's day, they have no intentions of giving us our liberty and are determined to deliver the alternative.I'm one pissed of person, first with what they're doing to Steve Tuck, Steve Kubby, Renee Boje, and all of the other persecuted cannabis POW's, then the idiocy of the scotus, and now this crap.I know everybody here feels the same way.Believe me, we're more united than ever before.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #77 posted by FoM on July 31, 2005 at 19:51:43 PT
You are so sweet. I wish you the very best. Don't get yourself in trouble posting though. I worry.
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Comment #76 posted by FoM on July 31, 2005 at 19:49:56 PT
Thanks EJ
This whole thing is very hard for me to comment on because I've never been involved in any of it. I always knew it was illegal so I didn't follow that part of our issue. See I don't know how to even comment on it. I am totally ignorant when it comes to this. 
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Comment #75 posted by herbdoc215 on July 31, 2005 at 19:44:28 PT
FoM....they can't ever stop me from coming here 
first thing every morning when we are in town to see how everybody is doing and read up on all the goings just wouldn't be morning without yall an my morning joint and coffee;) no lawyers, injunctions, gag orders, or mountains of gold will ever change that! Thank you for always being here...someday I'm going to give you the biggest hug I've ever given...special place, special people. Peace,steve
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Comment #74 posted by E_Johnson on July 31, 2005 at 19:31:42 PT
"They must have a lot of evidence if it has gone as far as it has."He openly sells seeds on the Internet. They bought seeds from him a few times. That's really all they need, FoM. They do not need any more than that to do what they have done.
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Comment #73 posted by jose melendez on July 31, 2005 at 19:23:59 PT
right on, Steve
Well said, friend.We need more than ever to speak accurately and inclusively to achieve the greater good.Putting others before ourselves will be an example that benefits us more than we realize.Our 'leaders' speak with Orwellian zeal of freedom and democracy, and yet we see with the clear eyes of a child that they oppress us for their own profit. We must swim now, or drown in our own tears . . ."Come gather 'round people
Wherever you roam
And admit that the waters
Around you have grown
And accept it that soon
You'll be drenched to the bone.
If your time to you
Is worth savin'
Then you better start swimmin'
Or you'll sink like a stone
For the times they are a-changin'."
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Comment #72 posted by FoM on July 31, 2005 at 19:18:22 PT
It's good to see you. Thanks for posting your feelings. I don't think anyone here is angry with Marc Emery. I don't know how to feel about him since I don't know him and have stayed out of the fighting that has happened from time to time. I wish him the best and I wish you the best too.
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Comment #71 posted by herbdoc215 on July 31, 2005 at 19:10:08 PT
We just need to stay together and focus...
I am asking everyone to please put all those feelings on hold for awhile, like when a family fights but strangers best not step-in. I have had reason to fight with Marc a couple of times but it was always vision and policy...never about the bs people read about him on net by his ankle biters. I have seen Marc help many people (including me!) when the chips were matter how one feels about him he has been very effective at his desire to spread the word here in Canada for freedom for us! THIS HAS IMPLICATIONS FOR ALL OF US! Just like the Nazi's-divide and conquer...if we ever want to live in world where we do not have to be ashamed of our medicine it's vital we don't let the USA get Emery. I'm afraid it will be the final nail in coffin of medical cannabis in USA in our lifetime. Please rethink this I beg all of you, if I can say this after my history...We either stand and fight now or we watch all of us go to jail one at a time. I ain't supposed to be posting anymore but dang-it this has just gotta stop before more pain and suffering.Peace, Steve
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Comment #70 posted by BGreen on July 31, 2005 at 17:49:31 PT
Money Laundering
I'm not going to be as tactful as dididadadidit and leave the astard, hit and uck out of my reply.Money laundering is a term the -ucking -astards use to describe getting rid of money from illegal drug related sales. They never use that term to charge -ucking THIEVES who steal your -hit and sell it, it's just another way for these pathetic little -hit for brains stupid -ucks to rack up more charges on non-violent humans.The so-called millennium bomber just got 22 years in prison for bringing explosives into Washington state from Canada in an attempt to blow up LAX airport in Los Angeles.Marc Emery is facing LIFE for mailing PLANT SEEDS!What the -uck is wrong with these stupid -hit -astards in our law enforcement and government?The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #69 posted by FoM on July 31, 2005 at 15:29:58 PT
Just a Note
My husband just told me not paying taxes isn't money laundering. I really don't know much about this. 
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Comment #68 posted by FoM on July 31, 2005 at 15:26:07 PT
EJ This Will Be Very Interesting To Follow
I really don't know anything about Marc Emery except his reputation. I stay to myself and don't talk on other boards except a Neil Young board from time to time. I knew when I decided to do CNews that I should isolate myself for safety sake and keep my nose clean. I do believe he will be extradited and will stand trial. I think we will know then how they plan on getting a conviction. They must have a lot of evidence if it has gone as far as it has. I just look at things logically when it comes to how things are now. If they jumped the gun we will know in time.
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Comment #67 posted by E_Johnson on July 31, 2005 at 15:11:52 PT
I think he paid his taxes and gave away all his profits to the movement.It's going to be wierd when they try to prove money laundering, because people who launder their money do not give everything away. They put it in one end and take it back out the other. That's not what Marc did. He just gave it to people, period, and didn't get it back out the other end clean.The feds are abusing the definition of money laundering to mean just plain using money, period.But the kind of money laundering that some Colombian cartel does is not what Marc was doing.
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Comment #66 posted by Dankhank on July 31, 2005 at 13:35:40 PT
if you can ...Recruit a friend or two or forty if you can ...A well-crafted hundred-word or so LTR works ...Call your local News editor and just talk to him/her.In any case, tell your friends and pass the stories around most of those I know know nothing.
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Comment #65 posted by FoM on July 31, 2005 at 12:57:14 PT
I don't know. The more I'm reading the more confused I get. Somewhere inside I think there must be more to it then seeds but maybe that's all it's about. I wish we knew. Maybe he didn't pay tax on sales of seeds. I assume taxes would be necessary since taxes are important to every country. If he paid taxes then it couldn't be money laundering I don't believe. This is different that Schiavo because a disabled woman who was going to die was involved. This isn't life or death just really hard to figure out for me.
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Comment #64 posted by dididadadidit on July 31, 2005 at 12:33:00 PT
Maybe, Just Maybe, OverReach, Like Schiavo
Maybe, Just Maybe, OverReach, Like SchiavoI think this fascist admin passed their peak when they willing stepped in s(BLEEP) with only 30% support on the Schiavo flap. Hopefully, this may be the cannabis Schiavo.Come on Canada. Don't do this. Stand up and overturn this bullshiess. Emery broke no Canadian laws. Defend your own with the support of the civilized world, who are running short on patience with this protofascoist regime. In the words of our esteemed VICE (yes indeed) preznitwit, to Senator Leahy, on the Senate floor, tell Amerika, to go f(BLEEP) itself!Please. Do it. Do it. 20 to 50 million criminal smoking class in occupied Amerika will stand by you immediately.This could open the door to medical discussion in the ensuing media flap with a chance to point out the now 3 to 1 Democratic support for Rokrbacher/Hinchey vs the meager rethugnicans 6%. A chance to get the 70 to 80% consistent poll support informed on where the retugnicans stand on this. One more excellent reason to vote them out (Diebold permitting).This could rebound in the favor of reasonable people. The b(BLEEP) may have over reached again (Schiavo the first), Canada may well yet do the right thing, stand up to these bullies and hopefully contribute to their downfall.Cheers?
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Comment #63 posted by runruff on July 31, 2005 at 10:16:19 PT:
Big bully USA
The Us government is an over bloated, rich, full of it's self, 
incompetent bully.Facts:
1. WW1 was over when we got involved.2. WW11 was won by the Russians. The alies were a mere annoyance to the Germans. Americans had resources.3. We lost in Korea.4. We lost in Viet Nam.5. We lost in Somalia.6. We are loosing in Iraq.The only two wars the US has won are the ones we fought against ourselves. Huh! How'd we do that.We shouldn't fear our Government. No one else does.Free Marc Emery!
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Comment #62 posted by afterburner on July 31, 2005 at 08:35:54 PT
MarijuanaNews (Richard Cowan) RE Marc Emery & Crew
Marc Emery, Michelle Rainey, Greg (Marijuana Man) Williams, Arrested By Canadian Narks At Request of DEA! “Offenses Over Which The USA Has Jurisdiction.” 
Posted by Richard Cowan on 2005-07-29 16:20:00 
{To my knowledge, there are no customer records at the store – or anywhere else, for that matter. {MarijuanaNews will run regular updates over the next few days. Now is the time for everyone in the cannabis community to rally to fight against this major escalation in the war on us. Canadians should demand that their country stop collaborating with a country that has clearly lost its moral compass.{Good news update: Michelle Rainey was released on $25,000 bail at the last possible moment on Friday. Marc and Greg will almost certainly have to remain in jail until next week. Now the Battle for Canada really begins. 
{Read Full Story... }BTW, CNN had another paid liar on one of the programs a few days ago. He said that the RCMP raid "on a grow-op" in which 4 mounties were killed "disproves the myth that marijuana users are non-violent." This mischaracterization of the facts was caused by the Mountie Chief and the Deputy Prime Minister of Canada shooting their mouths off to support their prohibitionist agenda *before all the facts were known*!The Mountie Chief at least had the decency and grace to retract his unfounded allegations. However, to my knowledge, we have not yet heard one word of apology from Deputy Prime Minister Anne McLellan for her inflamatory and later disproven remarks. The false allegations were widely reported in the press, even, or especially, in the US. The retraction/apology and subsequent clarification of the true facts about 4 inexperienced Mounties being sent into harms way to apprehend/confront/investigate a known dangerous felon, gun-lover and police-hater regarding *a truck repossession and stolen truck parts* was NOT widely reported! The incidental find of about 20 cannabis plants is not evidence of a profitable "grow-op run by organized crime." Even killers like to relax sometimes. If the Mounties had found a moonshine still instead, is that a reason to ban all alcoholic drink and demonize all alcohol drinkers?Furthermore, gentle cannabis folk, who tried to spread the truth in the press and on the Internet, were accused of using the tragic Mountie deaths to further the legalization agenda. Actually, most LTE-writers and Internet-posters were simply defending themselves and our culture against vindictive government and law enforcement propaganda. AND nearly all LTE-writers and Internet-posters expressed their condolences to the families devastated by the cruel act of a mad-dog killer. 
Shame on CNN, which calls itself "the most trusted name in news"! Trusted? Ha!Media Duped on Dope Story, 
Posted by CN Staff on March 12, 2005 at 07:28:27 PT
By Ben Rayner, 
Source: Toronto Star
Media Duped on Dope Story
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Comment #61 posted by Toker00 on July 31, 2005 at 08:09:18 PT
I was just saying he is the only one posting who seems to agree that public protest is what we need to do. In overwhelming numbers. My sentence "If you think protesting does no good,..." was meant for those NOT agreeing. Sorry for the confusion...END CANNABIS PROHIBITION NOW! 
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Comment #60 posted by FoM on July 31, 2005 at 08:05:16 PT
Good Morning Everyone!
Today the news has literally stopped but it's summer and it is very understandable. The last few days I have been seriously stressed like many of us have been. I feel much better today. I don't know where what has happened with Marc Emery will take us but time will tell. I haven't had the tv news on much because it really is hard to take but when it's on not one word about this current situation with Marc Emery. It's up to Canada to keep his case in the spotlight because it doesn't matter down here as far as network news goes. Since they took off News World International when it reports about Canada even on that channel now Emery isn't mentioned. I believe Al Gore bought that station and it looks like it is more news from other parts of the world but not Canada anymore. If we don't get TV coverage we can't win. We need the TV News to care and report about our issue now more then ever. 
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Comment #59 posted by jose melendez on July 31, 2005 at 07:10:13 PT
Now I'm really confused. Afterburner just explained that what he means by taking it to the streets is publicly protesting, no?Anyway, that's what I'll be doing from here, although because media will not cover Marc Emery's arrest, it will have to be more generic. Where's Dave in Florida? 
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Comment #58 posted by Toker00 on July 31, 2005 at 05:46:18 PT
Looks like you are the only one so far who agrees that taking it to the streets is the answer. My group is gearing up for a major march and rally in Sept. If you think protesting does no good, you are wrong. Laws will be changed by public outcry. Though I respect and admire all you articulate posters, I am disappointed there is no more support for protests than what I have seen here. You should not be afraid to protest. It is legal. There is always security at these rallies, provided by police, or volunteers. Except for the occassional radical anarchist showing up and causing a stir, our protests are SAFE AND PEACEFUL. No arrests.Putting it on paper and onscreen is a fabulous way of getting it into our minds. But speaking out and showing up in PUBLIC is what changes laws. We have to build the End Cannabis Prohibition movement to the level of the civil rights movement. Get involved. If you don't already.END CANNABIS PROHIBITION NOW!
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Comment #57 posted by afterburner on July 31, 2005 at 05:07:41 PT
jose RE 'taking it to the streets'
not to worry: "the street" is the avenue for public demonstration (of support); like Gandhi, we cannabists tend to be non-violent demonstrators!And, I *will* be writing to the PTB's too!
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Comment #56 posted by jose melendez on July 31, 2005 at 01:18:19 PT
Re: "taking it to the streets"Remember, the pen is mightier . . .
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Comment #55 posted by afterburner on July 30, 2005 at 23:37:17 PT
This Means War! 
The US Government is officially insane. If the US kidnaps Canadian Citizens, then the US has officially declared war on Canada. Many Canadians have been afraid of the day that the US might take military action against Canada. Each nation is Sovereign. Canada must not allow this illegal extradition to occur. Don't forget the words of Thomas Jefferson: "Every nation has a right to govern itself internally under what forms it pleases, and to change these forms at its own will; and externally to transact business with other nations through whatever organ it chooses, whether that be a King, Convention, Assembly, Committee, President, or whatever it be. The only thing essential is, the will of the nation." --Thomas Jefferson to Thomas Pinckney, 1792. ME 9:7 Canada is a Sovereign nation with its own laws. Canada needs to exert "the will of the nation."! Cannabis is legal in Canada, as directed by the courts and regulated by the government (cabinet). Under NAFTA, when an item of Commerce is sold in any NAFTA country, it is legal to sell in all other NAFTA countries. That is why all the Governors of the Great Lakes States and all the Premiers of the Great Lakes Provinces signed a mutual treaty prohibiting bulk sales of Great Lakes Water. Otherwise, under NAFTA, if any Provincial Premier or State Governor allowed such sales, all States and Provinces would have to allow Bulk Water Sales as well.The genii is out of the bottle. It cannot be put back in. Because Canada has legalized medical cannabis, all NAFTA countries must follow suit."Governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed." --Thomas Jefferson: Declaration of Independence, 1776. ME 1:29, Papers 1:429 I do not consent to this gross over-stepping (or should I say goose-stepping) of US authority."Our fellow citizens have been led hoodwinked from their principles by a most extraordinary combination of circumstances. But the band is removed, and they now see for themselves." --Thomas Jefferson to John Dickinson, 1801. ME 10:217 Prophesy?"Ministers... cannot in any country be uninfluenced by the voice of the people." --Thomas Jefferson to John Jay, 1786. ME 5:452 "Public opinion [is the] lord of the universe." --Thomas Jefferson to William Short, 1820. ME 15:246 Public opinion in the USA and in Canada supports medical cannabis by an overwhelming majority. This pig-headed US government will fall. Will it drag the Republic down with it?"What country can preserve its liberties if its rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon and pacify them." --Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith, 1787. ME 6:373, Papers 12:356 "Governments, wherein the will of every one has a just influence... has its evils,... the principal of which is the turbulence to which it is subject. But weigh this against the oppressions of monarchy, and it becomes nothing. Malo periculosam libertatem quam quietam servitutem. [I prefer the tumult of liberty to the quiet of servitude.] Even this evil is productive of good. It prevents the degeneracy of government, and nourishes a general attention to the public affairs." --Thomas Jefferson to James Madison, 1787. ME 6:64 "The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all. I like a little rebellion now and then. It is like a storm in the atmosphere." --Thomas Jefferson to Abigail Adams, 1787. I will be "taking it to the streets" soon. I respectfully request all True Patriots to join me.
Jefferson on Politics & Government: The Sovereignty of the People
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Comment #54 posted by RUNRUFF on July 30, 2005 at 22:02:14 PT:
Rome did it!
Give them bread and games.        Caesar Augustus  
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Comment #53 posted by FoM on July 30, 2005 at 21:39:14 PT

Til We Meet Again
It's really been great talking with you Celaya. Take care!
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Comment #52 posted by Celaya on July 30, 2005 at 21:28:23 PT

Happy Trails
FoMThat's another bizarre aspect. The religious right making a deal with the devil to instill their agenda! Just too wierd. Must be the end times 8^)BGreenLOL!! I hope that cop will be a dharma bum! Gotta go. Nite.

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Comment #51 posted by FoM on July 30, 2005 at 21:19:50 PT

It's so good to know I am not crazy and that you see it too.
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Comment #50 posted by BGreen on July 30, 2005 at 21:15:50 PT

FoM re: post #47
I feel exactly the same. We now have a society like those that we were conditioned to fear during our youth.The next time a cop asks me where I'm coming from and where I'm going I'm going to say "I'm coming from Stalingrad and heading towards Leningrad," and then watch to see if the stupid SOB even gets it.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #49 posted by FoM on July 30, 2005 at 21:13:48 PT

Thank you. I will watch it if it comes on AMC and I find it's on. There's another thing that has always bothered me. I was very active in Church and I watched the 700 Club as often as I could. I felt Pat Robertson was right and enjoyed his program. When he said they were going to get into politics I was set back. I thought no, no, no, no that is wrong. You want to make a society that fits in your religious beliefs and will want to jail those who don't change. It's all sin. I quit going to church in time because that festered in me. There are good people that are active in Churches but when politics was brought into it a terrible monster was released.
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Comment #48 posted by Celaya on July 30, 2005 at 20:57:56 PT

The strangest part of the process of the evolution of fascism is the way the people come to agree to their own subjugation.I most felt the presence of this shift in Americans during the days that followed 911. There was an almost insane fierceness of wanting to strike out at anyone! And the pressure to display the flag was Orwellian. I felt at that moment my America was lost. More disturbing are the questions around 911. Who knew what and when? It was so incredibly convenient for Bush with his flagging public support. Sometimes the most revealing question is, who benefits?It seems the people were softened up for this psychological trauma by the drug war. For decades they had been terrified by horror stories of crazed, violent marijuana fiends!So freedoms were, and continue to be, sacrificed for "security." We watch as the Bush boys carry out their plans to conquer the world with Bush stating, "If you aren't with us, you're against us!"What country wouldn't be against a marauder out to devour the planet? Just the sidekicks.The same ultimatum is leveled at the population, making those with any conscience left enemies of state. Most can't resist the pressure and so patriotically bless our "war against terrorism," and the corresponding war on our freedoms and rights.Denial. People want to believe our "leaders" so bad so they can think they're still the good guys, they sacrifice critical thought and cannot/will not see what is really happening. Society is sick - mentally ill. Seems that's what it takes to install fascism.If you get a chance, rent the old Jimmy Stewart movie, "The Mortal Storm." Oddly enough, Stewart plays a member of well-respected family in pre-Nazi Germany. But he does a good job.The movie follows the spread of fascism through the population of a town and how this affects Stewart's family - with tragic consequences. It is chillingly familiar to our atmosphere today! 
The Mortal Storm
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Comment #47 posted by FoM on July 30, 2005 at 20:50:06 PT

Just Another Comment
Many years ago I was told by a Psychologist that what we fear the most usually happens. When I was young, adults feared being taken over by Russia and Communism. So the fight to defend ourselves from becoming a slave to an evil empire seemed logical. What we feared the most is becoming a reality but it is coming from within and I do see that happening all these years later.
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Comment #46 posted by John Tyler on July 30, 2005 at 20:36:37 PT

bad move DEA
A while back American pundits were asking, “Why doesn’t the rest of the world like us?” Well American pundits, this is exactly why. The rest of the world doesn’t “hate us for our freedom”. They hate us for pulling arrogant stunts like this. We have been doing this in South America for decades now it’s Canada’s turn. 
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Comment #45 posted by BGreen on July 30, 2005 at 20:35:08 PT

I'm so pissed and hurt
I no longer participate in the so-called pledge of allegiance to the united states and I don't give a crap about the star spangled banner or that miserable piece of material that these murderous bastards wrap themselves in.I do not follow liars nor murderers.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #44 posted by FoM on July 30, 2005 at 19:39:19 PT

That was an excellent article and it is true and it makes me so darn sad. What really bothers me is a majority of people voted for Bush and that means they don't see what is happening. Even more then Kerry losing it was that awakening that really scared and angered me. What is wrong with people?
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Comment #43 posted by Celaya on July 30, 2005 at 19:27:42 PT

I'm sorry to say I'm not sure how Julien Heicklen is. I tried writing to him at the e-mail at his website a few months ago, but got no response. I then contacted the folks at Pennsylvania NORML, but they had no idea either, though they tried to help. I will investigate some more.A sin is putting it mildly! I'm afraid we are at the cusp of entering a new dark age - a time dominated by - no other way to put it - evil. The best article I have ever read that captures what is happening is still, "The Nazi Comparison." I've probably mentioned it before, but if you would like to visit it again, and for those who have not read it, here is the link.
The Nazi Comparison
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Comment #42 posted by FoM on July 30, 2005 at 18:57:44 PT

That's how I feel too. How is Julien Heicklen? Cannabis is a plant. It is a plant that has medicinal properties and was not developed by a drug company. It didn't come into existence by someone crossing poison ivy with a peach tree. It was created and put on this earth to be used like all herbs were to be used. It's a down right sin that this war is still going on.
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Comment #41 posted by Celaya on July 30, 2005 at 18:34:34 PT

Old War Horses
(Blush!) Thanks! I have strived for years to be the best marijuana reformer I can be. I absolutely believe Julien Heicklen's statement - "Marijuana is the messenger, not the message. The lighted marijuana herb is the torch of freedom!"As much as I have worked, I am in awe of the tremendous job you have consistently done here for 8 YEARS! Incredible!NORML, MPP and the ACLU are wonderful organizations. But it is the work of stalwart reformers like you that will make the difference.As someone once said, "It's amazing how much can be achieved if you don't care who gets the credit."Our moment will come. Get ready! 8^)
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Comment #40 posted by b4daylight on July 30, 2005 at 18:21:47 PT

spin spin your vote gentle up your ~~~~~
so any one wonder..Supreme court decides against
Raids on CA.
Yesterday we had 
Cannabis not a medicene 
Today thiscan any one say crack down.
Which if you look at the polls your actions and falsehood, will only make you loose more support.Meth is far worse than a seed.

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Comment #39 posted by FoM on July 30, 2005 at 18:17:30 PT

I want to say I have always enjoyed talking with you. I believe it was 97 that we started talking on the Political Board of You are very smart and considerate. I am tired of waiting for change because this is taking way to long. I remember when I agreed to do CNews I figured I could handle it for a year! Ha! I'll be starting our eighth year this November. I guess I'm in for the duration or I die of old age first! I understand what you mean too.
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Comment #38 posted by Celaya on July 30, 2005 at 17:24:19 PT

The Spark
FoM - I too, believe strongly in those four organizations. I am a member of NORML, MPP, and the ACLU. The only reason I am not a member of the Drug Policy Alliance is they have basically adopted MPP with extensive funding, and since our budget is so tight, I cannot afford what seems to me would be something of a redundant contribution.But I am somewhat discouraged by their institutional approach. One has to wonder how much they are motivated by preserving their own survival in their actions.That is natural for any organization, but these desperate times call for bold leadership that is not afraid to take risks.And, to be honest, the heads of those orgs are not exactly what you would call charismatic. Ethan Nadlemann seems the most erudite, but he still lacks that certain something, the spark, if you will, to inspire a massive grass roots movement.I agree with you that on our present course, relief from this persecution does not appear on the immediate horizon.So I feel we must break with our course - and I see no one better equipped to steer toward a prompt victory than Emery. I think even activists can become complacent with the status quo, feeling like they are doing all they can do.We MUST believe we can achieve our goal soon, or we will unintentionally self-fulfill our pessimistic outlook. And that belief must also be instilled in the many millions of marijuana consumers who have also given up that things can change for them.I think Emery is the best hope for creating that necessary vision - that spark. I also believe we may only have one moment in our lifetimes when the flood of events presents us with the opportunity to channel the momentum, act boldly, and yes, take risks, to reach for victory with all the strength and faith we can muster. We must be ready for that moment when it happens, or we may regret it forever. 
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Comment #37 posted by FoM on July 30, 2005 at 17:02:25 PT

I have been really scattered in my thinking these days. We have home construction going on and my dog is losing his eye sight and then this with Emery. I wanted to say it's good to see you.
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Comment #36 posted by boballen1313 on July 30, 2005 at 16:56:03 PT:

Do you reckon all the fuss is because America's Constitution is written on hemp paper? And Bush is determined to destroy that document... so it follows that Bush blames cannabis for preserving this document in its original. Tough hemp paper keeping the people free!!!
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Comment #35 posted by FoM on July 30, 2005 at 16:11:54 PT

I understand that you like Marc Emery. I don't know him nor have I ever talked with him. I am a member of a private list that is in Canada. I think the world of the people in the list. I don't comment but once in a blue moon and then it isn't about policy in Canada just something friendly to say. I have one friend from Canada that I have been talking to in email regularly and he will tell me if he thinks I am wrong and I listen. I believe NORML, MPP, DPA and the ACLU are working on our behalf. I do not agree with them on every issue but I respect that they are the ones in Washington and working the best way they can to help our cause. Our country is run by right wing republicans and unless we get a democrat in 2008 this is the way it will be for the rest of my life I believe. Canada is a unique country and we know how we are as a country down here now. Totally the opposite. Those that work in Washington on our behalf will let us know sooner or later how they will react to Emery's situation. It might be too hot to touch or it might not be. I'm sure this will evolve in ways we can't really imagine as time goes by. I guess we will have to wait and see.
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Comment #34 posted by E_Johnson on July 30, 2005 at 15:11:08 PT

They have a porcupine in their pants
I'm sure Mark's giving them all a good talking to.
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Comment #33 posted by Celaya on July 30, 2005 at 15:06:47 PT

It's understandable that many reformers have not looked to Emery. He is, after all, Canadian. And we Americans are not used to looking outside our borders for inspiration and direction. Plus, many in reform don't like the idea of a leader at all. Too many "leaders" have turned out to have feet of clay. -- Who would have thought Jimmy Carter would backpedal after his pronouncement that we should end marijuana prohibition?But I have been convinced for some time that we need a leader to wake up the vast majority of the Cannabis Culture that have so far remained silent and out of the reform movement. It is difficult to obtain solid numbers, but estimates of the numbers of U.S. marijuana consumers range from 20 to 50 million. When you add their family and friends, the amount of people who should be storming the barricades should be a 100 million!I believe the right leader could stir that sleeping giant, and in my search I have found no one who is better qualified and positioned than Marc Emery.He is not perfect. His high profile hedonism is distasteful to some, but his political actions are 99 percent on target, and he is extremely charismatic. Most important, from what I have observed so far, his genuine-ness and committment to marijuana reform is impeccable.He may not be THE ONE, but at the moment, no one else comes close.IMHO - 8^) 
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Comment #32 posted by FoM on July 30, 2005 at 14:10:51 PT

Just a Comment
I'm sorry that this happened to Marc Emery. I really haven't paid attention to his web sites and I thought I should mention it. I only watched Pot-TV when the Kubbys were the hosts. I'm sure there are others who haven't been involved in his way of doing things but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't care. At least that's how I feel. 
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Comment #31 posted by E_Johnson on July 30, 2005 at 13:09:15 PT

The DEA are damaged goods
Getting close to the good brave people in this community through deceptions and betrayals.Nobody who makes good friends and betrays them for a living can just walk away unscathed. They build false emotional ties to open vulnerable people. But even false emotional ties feel real to the human heart.The DEA are breaking their OWN hearts, and they don't even know it.
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Comment #30 posted by Celaya on July 30, 2005 at 12:48:50 PT

Fighting Frogs
Hi FoM! It's so encouraging to know you all have kept the flame so well here!Some of us frogs have been stuggling to hang on to the rim of the pot while we figure out how to get the rest out. Now, DEAland wants to scrape us off back into the boiling water!In my opinion, Marc Emery is the head of the worldwide marijuana reform movement. His epistle, Pot TV, has energized our Cannabis Culture for years, and his leadership example has been near flawless. So this is a major attack on US! Since they are making this big move, other coordinated attacks on our movement are likely. All of us should be on HIGH ALERT!Vancouver is now the eye of the prohibition storm. Richard Cowan promises to keep us updated at Marijuana News. 
Marijuana News
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Comment #29 posted by FoM on July 30, 2005 at 12:16:09 PT

Related Article from The Seattle Times Celaya & Nuevo Mexican it's good to see you. What a sad state of affairs this world is in now. Celaya I remember the frog in the water story to this day.
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Comment #28 posted by FoM on July 30, 2005 at 12:04:50 PT

Big Hug Everyone
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Comment #27 posted by Celaya on July 30, 2005 at 11:57:28 PT

To Everything, There Is A Season
This had to happen. It was just a matter of time. Now we have one more watershed moment to see how the people of this continent will react and how much they care for freedom. Initially, the U.S. population seemed to fail in their response to the last crisis - the war on Iraq, but there is still a grumbling resistance - enough so that we cannot totally write that one off yet.From the forum (Under "Community") at Cannabis Culture Magazine: ----------------------------------------------------------- We need financial help. Please, please find it somewhere inside your heart to send some money to us. The BCMP Bookstore needs business. Emery Seeds is gone. They shut it down entirely. Pot-TV is shut down for now. No money for it. CC magazine is going to have some trouble, just when things were really looking great for us. WHAT YOU NEED TO DO: Send donations in any form to me at this address: Jodie Giesz-Ramsay 
2102-1155 Seymour st. 
Vancouver BC 
V6B1K2 I beg of you all, help us now after all of these years. Marc started Emery Seeds in 1994 to fund the marijuana revolution, and now that business is gone. After helping others in their worst times for years and years, it's our turn to seek aid. Please tell everyone that we need all the help we can get. This is truly our most desperate hour. Do NOT let them take Marc to the USA... ~~~~ Assistant Editor, Cannabis Culture magazine Jodie******************************Speaking Of Resistance... is mobilizing a massive impeachment contingent at the huge September 24, 2005 anti-war March on Washington. Assemble at 12 noon at the White House. 
Sign up here to learn about the plans of the impeachment movement in the next month.*******************Justice For Peace!
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Comment #26 posted by nuevo mexican on July 30, 2005 at 11:36:25 PT

Beautiful! Marc Emery is being 'Nelson Mandelled'
That means he's being made a martyr, which he already is in Canada, now that our facist bushistas have made him an International figure of massive proportions, something they tend to do, re: John Lennon, MLK, etc. Can you say 'backfire!'Thank you Marc and all you have done for our sanity!You will not spend life in prison, that we know for sure, so it looks like the final blow for prohibiton now that the US has exposed our true concern, and it is NOT terrorism, but to Terrorize! Anybody disagree? We as Americans, terrorize the world more than anyone terrorist organization ever could, or want to.I know you think 911 was terrible FOM, but the truth is, bush brought it all about, and it STill THE PRESIDENT! wtf! Now we are are arresting Canadians IN THERE COUNTRY! There is no Rule of Law, just look at Karl Rove, Traitor on the loose, and STill HAS A SECURITY CLEARANCE. 
This country is a joke and the whole world knows it now! 
The jig is up!!!We get what we deserve!Canada will stand up to our terrorism, and this is the best thing that could happen, as it exposes the drup war sham for what it is. Jackboots at their door, whaddya gonna do?Where is everyones faith in the Uni-verse? Increasing I would think, as this is literally akin to 'the shot heard around the world'! And we know what that led to, back in Concord in the Seventeen Hundreds!I know Marc will be out, and Cannabis will be legal soon.
Everyone here does have the ability to see into the future, with Cannabis that is! You know Marc does!From somewhere DEEP in Space!
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Comment #25 posted by Hope on July 30, 2005 at 10:39:01 PT

Making some "noise", too.
Steven B. Stevens
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Comment #24 posted by Hope on July 30, 2005 at 10:31:23 PT

"Enjoy it and be careful"
Something I have always often said to family and friends who are embarking on a busy, likely very good, day.Once a son-in-law told me that for years, when I said that to him, he thought I was meaning that he was careless and wreckless.
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Comment #23 posted by Hope on July 30, 2005 at 10:28:35 PT

Sounds like a good day...
Enjoy it and be careful.
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Comment #22 posted by E_Johnson on July 30, 2005 at 10:27:08 PT

My plan for today
I medicated and put Natty Dread on the stereo system.I have an ink jet printer and some iron-on transfers and today there is a big farmer's market in town.FREE MARK EMERYI think I'll go look for some good sweet corn. It's in season now.
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Comment #21 posted by Hope on July 30, 2005 at 10:26:22 PT

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Comment #20 posted by E_Johnson on July 30, 2005 at 10:20:53 PT

Thanks Hope
I hug you back.
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Comment #19 posted by Hope on July 30, 2005 at 10:12:03 PT

Group Hug
One Heart
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Comment #18 posted by Hope on July 30, 2005 at 10:10:02 PT

" and happy again?"
That's "Peace"...or the delusion of it.
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Comment #17 posted by Hope on July 30, 2005 at 10:04:57 PT

I agree.

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Comment #16 posted by E_Johnson on July 30, 2005 at 10:02:04 PT

I wish we could have a group hug
We need each other more than ever now.
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Comment #15 posted by Zandor on July 30, 2005 at 09:49:59 PT

Welcome to America Inc.  Revisited
I am for one ashamed of my government for their actions. I’m disappointed in the Canadian government for their complicity, they are showing they are just a puppet for the US government and not a true solver nation as they once were.
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Comment #14 posted by siege on July 30, 2005 at 09:47:37 PT

purified compounds V a Plant
"We pay a very high price in medicine for our reliance on those purified compounds that have very dramatic effects. That price is a completely unacceptable level of toxicity... At the moment, deaths caused by pharmaceutical medications ranks between the sixth and fourth leading cause of death in US hospitals. An article in JAMA a couple of years ago estimated that we're now seeing a hundred thousand deaths a year in US hospitals -deaths directly caused by pharmaceutical drugs. These deaths were not 'mistakes' -not [attributable to] the wrong drug given to the wrong patient. This was the right drug at the right dose to the right patient from the right physician -and 100,000 people die a year! I think that is completely unacceptable. And it would not happen if we were using more plant drugs in medical practice. 
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Comment #13 posted by FoM on July 30, 2005 at 09:37:54 PT

EJ - Limbo
This is how I feel today.***Sitting here in limbo, waiting for the dice to rollSitting here in limbo, got some time to search my soulWell, they're putting up resistance But I know that my faith will lead me on

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Comment #12 posted by E_Johnson on July 30, 2005 at 09:30:06 PT

How can we sing King Alpha's song?
Twas the wicked carried us away.Captivity required from us a song.How can we sing King Alpha's song in a strange land?So let the words of our mouthAnd the meditation of our heartBe acceptable in Thy sightOver I 
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Comment #11 posted by E_Johnson on July 30, 2005 at 09:22:35 PT

It's time to be strong and hang together
Our love has to carry us through this.What do they have on their side? Power.But they do not have honesty, courage or love on their side, and I have to believe that honesty, courage and love will triumph over their dishonest, cowardly, and hateful use of power.
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Comment #10 posted by siege on July 30, 2005 at 08:52:18 PT

pharmaceutical industry 
The perceptive reader can already feel the ever-reaching tentacles of the pharmaceutical industry reaching into every crevice of this utopian plan.
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Comment #9 posted by Toker00 on July 30, 2005 at 08:47:43 PT

End Cannabis Prohibition.
Won't back down. FoM, won't back down. The noose is getting tight around the DEAth's neck. Their funds are dwindling, the people know now the damage of Cannabis Prohibition. They are in their FINAL THROUGHS. Or however you spell it.Look. Find a local protest organizer, get involved, make signs, flyers, march, show your face and solidarity against tyranny, or live in it. I've been to four protests this year. I volunteered for secutity in three of them. Bush's Illegal Inauguration, Tomball KKK protest, Bush's Social Security scam, and Galveston County Police Brutality protest. We are now organizing an "End Cannabis Prohibition March" in front of the DEA headquarters in Houston. It is your right, no your duty, to protest tryranny. Electronic transmissions are fine for convenience and speed, but your body in the street, on the sidewalk, in a gathering place, is, well, PRICELESS. Overwhelm Uncle Sam. It's YOUR country, not HIS!Legal proceedings and changing of laws have already happened as a result of the KKK protest and the Police Brutality protest. Afterdowningstreet is pending. Ending Cannabis Prohibition is on the front burner, along with ending the War in Iraq.Peace to those who fight.END CANNABIS PROHIBITON, NOW! 
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Comment #8 posted by FoM on July 30, 2005 at 07:59:07 PT

What is Happening to Us?
I am very sad. I am grieving for what we could have become. I know that 9/11 was tragic. No one will deny that. Look where we are now though. Will we ever be free and happy again? I am an eternal optimist but this administration has made it really hard to believe we as a society and country have a good future. I feel so sorry for young people.
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Comment #7 posted by runruff on July 30, 2005 at 07:53:27 PT:

The demon seed
is in the white house. Oh the DEA[th] squads have been running rampant in South America for decades. It is their job to keep the "unconnected" from profiting from drugs while the "connected" make huge profits. They are just pawns in their game.Barbara's little shrub George W. Stalin has placed the cap stone on our freedoms. Can you say, hello Orwell?Good morning all.Namaste
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Comment #6 posted by potpal on July 30, 2005 at 07:48:54 PT

seeds of civil disobedience
Time to send some seeds to Mr. Benson, free of charge, from his friends in the land of cannabis culture...? Wonder how many he'd get if we all did?
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Comment #5 posted by legalizeit on July 30, 2005 at 07:43:58 PT

Canada needs to get a backbone
If anything, this exercise in idiocy will show to the world yet again the insanity of cannabis prohiition. Only under such a twisted law would someone face the possibility of life in jail for selling plant seeds. Murder or cripple someone for life, or ruin someone's livelihood or life by arson, burglary, robbery, embezzlement, etc., you can expect a few years, maybe 20 if you aren't repentant. Sell seeds, get locked up and have the key thrown away!The really strange thing is, you could sell seeds for any of a number of potentially VERY harmful plants/fungi - jimsonweed, nightshade, oleander, spores of deadly "death cap" mushrooms, etc. - and no governmental harm would befall you. Just because it's cannabis, it has some otherworldly spectral powers to obliterate millions of people and therefore anyone who sells its seeds must face the full wrath of Uncle Sam, even if that person lives in another nation. And all our bumbling officials can muster in support of this action are the same old crap that all but the most rabid anti-pot activists must be tired of hearing - "pot is harmful" (not the plant itself, but its prohibition), and "more kids in treatment for pot than anything else" (we all know the story on that.) If it were such a hideous, damning drug we'd hear new bad stuff about it all the time (like we do about meth.) But these wack jobs have to say something to justify their miserable existence and that's all that comes out because, face it, there is nothing bad they CAN say without distorting the truth or lying outright.It's too bad that Canada lacks a backbone. Many other countries that want to assert their soverignty would have told US officials to f*** off and keep their anti-drug quagmire to themselves. The Netherlands comes to mind.I wish Marc Emery the best, and hope that he doesn't become yet another poor soul locked up due to drug war insanity.We ARE making progress. It's slow going and as The Boss sang once, it's one step forward and two steps back at times. But people are beginning to wake up and realize what's going on. Just look at all the pro-cannabis editorials around the country the past few weeks. Through the Internet in general, and C-News in particular, all of this information is readily available to anyone willing to seek it out. The little curtain the prohibs are hiding behind is getting thinner by the day and soon little Toto is gonna rip it open and expose them for the frauds they are.Hoping for a simpler, greener future...legalizeit
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Comment #4 posted by Patrick on July 30, 2005 at 07:33:04 PT

OutrageousI think the following statement is completely outrageous!Police were acting on a search warrant signed by Associate Chief Justice Patrick Dohm of the B.C. Supreme Court, who agreed there were reasonable grounds to believe that the three conspiracy charges "over which the United States of America has jurisdiction have been committed."How does my country claim jurisdiction over a citizen of another country? Americans if you felt your rights are slipping away here is all the proof you need. When the DEA has jurisdiction over the citizen of another country then no place on planet earth is safe from the lunacy of marijuana prohibition. We might as well go back to burning witches if this is considered progress towards the right to liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Seeds, Marc sells freaking seeds over the Internet and our DEA can just cross a national border and seize him and extradite him here? Yet we can’t or won't go into Pakistan and grab Osama because obviously he hasn’t done anything near as serious as selling cannabis seeds. No sir he only murders innocent people that is not enough grounds to violate the sanctity of Pakistan. Instead of telling Pakistan to shut up while we go extradite Osama we sell them F-16 fighter jets much to chagrin of our friend India instead? Strap on those jackboots fellow’s we got us some seed salesmen to catch. So the “people” will forget that we are too inept to catch the real criminals running loose.

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Comment #3 posted by FoM on July 30, 2005 at 07:25:04 PT

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Comment #2 posted by billos on July 30, 2005 at 07:16:54 PT

Now IS the TIME.........
to spread the word of jury nullification like never before. Spread the word and try to get EVERYONE educated on it. It's our most powerful weapon.
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Comment #1 posted by FoM on July 30, 2005 at 06:53:15 PT

Just a Comment
I was in a really good mood yesterday and then I heard about this. I don't know where all of this will take us but it will be a ride like we haven't seen in a long time. That's just my opinion.
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