Drug Czar Challenged

  Drug Czar Challenged

Posted by CN Staff on May 30, 2005 at 08:18:43 PT
By Charles M. Darlington 
Source: Virginia Gazette 

Williamsburg, VA -- I am quite sure that Gazette reporter Rusty Carter was unaware that Dr. Andrea Barthwell (“Drug forum draws national interest,” May 25 Gazette) has been hired by a British company called GW Pharmaceuticals that is attempting to market a liquid version of marijuana called Sativex. It is indistinguishable from the crude drug, having all its components but recombined in liquid form.Dr. Barthwell earned a considerable amount of taxpayer money as deputy director of the Organization for National Drug Control Policy, railing against exactly the same drug.
Now, instead of claiming that marijuana has absolutely no medicinal properties, she now states that only Sativex has medicinal properties, and the “crude drug” does not.The self-serving hypocrisy of this statement becomes glaringly obvious, and I am not surprised that she did not mention this. As to her “defeating an Illinois bill to legalize marijuana,” the bill's purpose was to eliminate criminal penalties for those who were so ill that marijuana was their only relief. Cannabis (the proper name) would have remained illegal for the public-at-large. The bill would have required a doctor's approval and the process subject to local regulation. Dr. Barthwell was invited to debate with the legislator who had proposed the bill. She declined. Such contempt for the democratic process by one who was sworn to uphold it is indicative of Dr. Barthwell's approach to matters of public interest. She had, in her tenure as deputy drug czar, consistently refused to debate the merits of drug law reform, preferring to snipe instead from the agency's ivory tower's battlements. She hasn't changed her modus operandi since leaving public service. It should be of interest that nearly every person who has held high positions within the federal anti-drug apparatus (such as Robert DuPont, Barry McCaffery, etc.) has, while in office, promoted drug testing (despite studies which have shown it provides no “magic bullet” to prevent use) and then, after leaving office, have taken positions with drug-testing companies. Dr. Barthwell has dutifully followed in the footsteps of her predecessors. This is a classic example of the “revolving door” and “double dipping” if ever there was one. When shorn of the glowing rhetoric of saving the children, Dr. Barthwell is just another self-seeking opportunist who is well aware of the futility of attempting to control illicit drugs in this country using the punitive approach. She is cynically using the system to reward herself financially. Her latest efforts are just a continuation of past behaviors. Charles M. Darlington, Reston, VA Cited Article: Virginia Gazette, The (Williamsburg, VA)Author: Charles M. DarlingtonPublished: May 28, 2005Copyright: 2005 The Virginia GazetteContact: editor vagazette.comWebsite: Medical Marijuana Archives

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Comment #72 posted by jose melendez on June 05, 2005 at 17:34:37 PT
* * blush * *
Aw shucks . . . (grin) thanks, Hope you just made my day! I should disclose that, as many here have surely guessed, I am often a bit dizzy, myself. :)Really though, the energy comes from realizing that we can win if we consistently tell the truth and expose the lies . . .All we need is love, love . . . love is all we need . . . 
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Comment #71 posted by Hope on June 05, 2005 at 17:21:40 PT
You're so much smarter than me and so much more energetic that you make me dizzy running circles around me. I'm so thankful for your intelligence, knowledge, and energy. So thankful.You're sweet and kind, too.Thanks.
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Comment #70 posted by jose melendez on June 05, 2005 at 17:14:26 PT
like 50 caliber sniper rifles or ICBM's
pens are mightier than swords'puters are pens on steroidsany questions?: )
I'm not as smart as Hope, but I do try . . .
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Comment #69 posted by Hope on June 05, 2005 at 17:10:35 PT
Hey, Jose! 
Thanks, so much!Very good!
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Comment #68 posted by Hope on June 05, 2005 at 17:04:55 PT
I was so hoping someone smarter and more articulate than I would make a comment in response to his appearance there, but finally, I couldn't stand waiting any longer. He's going to call me names now and chew me up and spit me out. Perhaps my Grandfathers' DNA was whispering something to me like, "Ye may not have our muskets, girl...but ye got that damn puter thang...say somethin to that hateful scoundrel. He's mockin you and us, too."
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Comment #67 posted by jose melendez on June 05, 2005 at 17:03:58 PT
Rathbone debunked, exposed.
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Comment #66 posted by Hope on June 05, 2005 at 08:15:04 PT
Rathbone commenting at DrugWarRant
Thanks for publicizing my views supporting random student drug testing as a legal, effective and compassionate means of getting children off drugs.
DeForest Rathbone • 6/5/05; 1:28:32 AM #
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Comment #65 posted by jose melendez on June 03, 2005 at 08:27:26 PT
I'm told I should publish a book.I'm thinking I may release it a chapter at a time, and print it on thin hemp paper. That way, any that really want to burn my book, can!:)
Outraged Yet?
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Comment #64 posted by Hope on June 03, 2005 at 07:52:15 PT
Jose, *smile* ....Thank you.
I often worry that the fine rebuttals and arguments I see here at CNews...the meeting place of the "choir", might not be getting forwarded to the media where the "congregation" can hear the truth that we here are blessed to hear.
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Comment #63 posted by jose melendez on June 03, 2005 at 06:29:04 PT
newshawk swoops in, clinches truth
You assume correctly, my dear!Here's another letter full of lies that I have already answered to the editor: No doubt the above letter was in response to these revelations: 
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Comment #62 posted by Hope on June 03, 2005 at 04:42:43 PT
Can I assume you are using that information in a wonderful rebuttal sent to the newspaper?
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Comment #61 posted by jose melendez on June 02, 2005 at 17:33:59 PT
#55 What a liar.
"Darligton's reference to Clinton administration former drug czar Barry McCaffrey promoting drug testing while he was in office was false."What a freaking liar! "The success of Wada is essential to the continued involvement of the world community in the Olympic movement," US drugs czar Barry McCaffrey told reporters after addressing the opening session.Sydney testingWada is to establish a list of banned substances, coordinate unannounced out-of-competition drug testing, develop standards for collecting and analysing samples, set unified drug sanctions and promote research. Barry McCaffrey also urged Wednesday that U.S. Olympians be subject to drug testing at any time -- not just when they are in competition. , by not testing for drugs, baseball now appears to have the same problem other leagues have. Officials of the league and its players union have allowed -- even encouraged -- steroid use to take hold in America's pastime, said Gen. Barry McCaffrey, head of the Office of National Drug Control Policy. Only the community, Mr McCaffrey suggested, had any hope of winning the war. The best he could offer was the idea that anyone arrested by the police should be required to submit to "rehabilitation" if they tested positive for drugs. October 19, Clinton announced that his administration will develop a plan to test the urine of driver's license applicants under the age of 18, and he gave drug czar Barry McCaffrey 90 days to present the plan to him." . . . so-called medical marijuana is really nothing more than a form of snake-oil medicine backed by a $500 billion international drug trafficking industry as a ruse to gain acceptance of marijuana, which serves as bait to lure children into addiction and the subsequent compulsive consumption of the drug traffickers' lucrative evil products. "DEFOREST RATHBONE Catch the amicus brief filed with the drug testing industry, can YOU find deceptions or perjury? contact DEFOREST RATHBONE Random testing for all pupils is a done deal,' said DeForest Rathbone, who has been fighting a 20-year 'drug war' at the head of the National Institute of Citizen Anti-Drug Policy. 'Thanks be to almighty God for coming on to our side and helping us protect the kids from drugs.'
Mr. McTesty
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Comment #60 posted by Hope on June 02, 2005 at 17:30:36 PT
What with it being summer...
Don't guess there will be many forums available until Universities gear up for Fall sememsters.
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Comment #59 posted by Hope on June 02, 2005 at 17:28:39 PT
Williamsburg forum on May 25,
Anyone know how that went?I hope our debaters see this, "She and I and many other drug prevention activists are more than willing to debate drug legalizers..."Don't forget Voth, BGreen.
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Comment #58 posted by Hope on June 02, 2005 at 16:21:11 PT
Why is she already on their payroll?
And before the FDA gives it's hallowed (by some, apparently)approval?" Her support for Sativex medicine is entirely dependent upon it passing FDA clearance and approval,..."
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Comment #57 posted by FoM on June 02, 2005 at 13:06:21 PT
You're a good name dropper!
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Comment #56 posted by BGreen on June 02, 2005 at 12:52:01 PT
I told you on Monday some names to watch for
That stupid letter from calvina fay led me to joyce nalepka and some names, including deforest rathbone, and voila, here he is.Many voices sharing one malfunctioning brain.joyce nalepka and calvina fay are partners in crime.Watch for these names that also appear on joyce nalepka's old hate site when you're reading something that makes you need an fast-acting anti-emetic: deforest rathbone, david evans, esq., carla lowe, dee rathbone and stephanie haynes.The Reverend Bud Green
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Comment #55 posted by FoM on June 02, 2005 at 12:37:43 PT

Response LTE on Charles M. Darlington's LTE
Drug Czar DefendedPublished: June 1, 2005An error-filled letter to the editor by Charles M. Darlington of May 28, “Drug czar challenged,” unfairly criticized Dr. Andrea Barthwell with questionable charges of “self-serving hypocrisy,” “contempt for the democratic process,” “double dipping” and “self-seeking opportunist.” None of this from my knowledge of her as a fellow drug prevention activist is true. Barthwell is opposed to the druggie proposal to legalize smoked marijuana as medicine because of her medical background, which makes her intimately aware of the health hazards of smoking anything. Her support for Sativex medicine is entirely dependent upon it passing FDA clearance and approval, just as morphine is accepted as a legally approved derivative of illegal opium. We preventionists all agree on that. We also agree with Barthwell that smoked pot will never be anything other than another snake-oil medicine to cheat desperate sick people. That is also our rationale for defeating the Illinois bill to virtually legalize smoked pot as medicine, which was proposed by drug legalizers. It is not hypocrisy to support the official evaluation of Sativex by FDA while opposing unapproved smoked pot snake-oil medicine. It is also a phony claim that Barthwell ducks public debate on so-called “drug law reform.” She and I and many other drug prevention activists are more than willing to debate drug legalizers and their legal profession supporters at any time, as I did in my recent debate with the pro-drug ACLU lawyer Kent Willis during the Williamsburg forum on May 25, held to discuss the case for adopting random student drug testing in WJC Schools. Darlington's reference to Clinton administration former drug czar Barry McCaffrey promoting drug testing while he was in office was false. That did not happen, even though we drug prevention activists frequently pleaded with him to endorse random student drug testing to protect our kids. It was only after Gen. McCaffrey was replaced with Bush administration drug czar John Walters and Barthwell as his deputy that the Office of National Drug Control Policy began to promote random testing in response to drug-besieged citizens' requests. A key to understanding where Darlington was coming from was in his statement citing the “futility of attempting to control illicit drugs,” which is a pure druggie mantra that we drug prevention activists reject. We're going to win. For the sake of America's drug-endangered children, families and communities, we must. And dedicated, honest health professionals like Barthwell are going to help us make that happen. 
DeForest Rathbone, Chairman National Institute of Citizen Anti-drug Policy Great Falls Copyright: 2005, Virginia Gazette,0,4038164.story?coll=va-opinion
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Comment #54 posted by afterburner on May 31, 2005 at 10:10:19 PT

The passion of Corby 
The passion of Corby 
by Patrick Montgomery (30 May, 2005) What the Indonesian smuggling case really means 
"Schapelle Corby: languishing in an Indonesian prison over pot
"Schapelle Corby, 27, is a telegenic symbol of the global drug war's ultimate goal: to kill people who use plant drugs, and to kill their plants." [Full Story]

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Comment #53 posted by Hope on May 31, 2005 at 08:10:35 PT

"I don't understand"
Actually...I do understand.Money, greed, racism and foolish busybodies, and evil disquised as good. 
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Comment #52 posted by FoM on May 31, 2005 at 08:10:35 PT

Victimless Crimes
I agree they need to go after crimes that have victims and not victimless crimes.
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Comment #51 posted by Hope on May 31, 2005 at 08:05:26 PT

Murder, rape, molestation, assault, thievery
It would be nice if more people got involved in preventing those things than interfering in what stimulants, medicines, and intoxicants people wanted to take.If law enforcement tended to those things instead of the drug war it would be a far better world than it is.I don't understand that obvious idiocy and why it's allowed to continue.Just think if the Drug War money was spent on things like that and being on the lookout for terrorism! Education and medical research is being sorely neglected.They misuse the money they force from us and the hypnotized masses just keep letting it happen.Billions and billions of dollars! Billions and Billions!Arrogance and stupidity go hand in hand. They have to fall. The sooner the better.

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Comment #50 posted by Hope on May 31, 2005 at 07:50:03 PT

It looks like that's about trying to stop it before it happens.I hope!
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Comment #49 posted by Hope on May 31, 2005 at 07:39:45 PT

Doesn't seem a righteous judgement...
Supreme Court overturns Enron-related conviction of Arthur Andersen accounting firm.
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Comment #48 posted by Patrick on May 31, 2005 at 06:57:03 PT

Check this headline...
Child sex abuse treated as public health problem 
New program aimed at concerned adults long have we asked that cannabis/drug use be treated as a health problem and not a criminal justice problem? Then I see the above headline today. Where are the drug warriors and their chants of "save the children" and "what about the message it sends to the children" now???Here's the message I think it sends...We'll arrest mommy for smoking cannabis but Uncle Chester gets to go to the hospital for fondling your kids privates!
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Comment #47 posted by Hope on May 31, 2005 at 06:41:09 PT

Fred Gardner column over at MedPot excerpt of Mr. Gardner's interview with a professional organic produce farmer, who wasn't blinded by big dollar signs, was especially interesting to me.
 "...If I wanted to do that I would contract with the sick people and charge $10 a plant. Let's say you're allowed to grow three plants per person. If somebody sent me ten dollars that would capitalize me to be able to grow the plant, and when harvest time came they would get notification and they could bring $20 and come up and harvest their three plants. A field-grown marijuana plant with a yield of a half pound - a nice well grown naturally grown, high-energy, sweet, complete plant is going to take up five square feet. Let's say it's going to take up 4.32 square feet and we can have 10 thousand of them on an acre, and I'm going to get $10 each for them. That's $100,000 an acre! Oh, my God! I grow an acre of broccoli, I'm lucky to get 50 cents per plant. Ten dollars? If you grow an acre of broccoli, you're lucky to gross $3,000. And I can make a living growing broccoli. Why should I make more than double the profit growing medical marijuana? It's absurd.If it's truly medical marijuana -sick people don't have economic security. Maybe they can't work, maybe they get government support to pay their rent, maybe they're in the process of exhausting savings, maybe they're depending on healthy family members to siphon off their money is absurd. We're looking at a half-pound per plant, ten dollars a plant -I'm ready to do it. If I were wanting to grow that crop, I would become inordinately rich compared to a common vegetable farmer. But what I'm interested in doing is growing complete full-bodied food that has the capacity to really nourish the person so that they don't get sick in the first place. That's what I'm doing."

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Comment #46 posted by kaptinemo on May 31, 2005 at 04:16:46 PT:

Unrelated: another CNEWS scoop
Some time ago, I had mentioned that if the increasingly repressive social climate of the US is not reversed, we may face a 'brain drain' of the best we have. Needless to say, many of those 'best' are cannabists. I know of at least one person, a top flight programmer, who has fled the US for more cannabis friendlier climes and is quite glad he has done so; in fact, he is marrying one of the locals. The US's loss and Canada's gain. Multiply this process by thousands or maybe tens or scores of thousands and the US is doomed to second or third rate status economically.This trend, like so many others, was predicted here *first*. And now, a book has been written about this quiet exodus that may become a flood if this government doesn't quit seeking to demand obeiscence to irrational policies:The Flight of the Creative Class: The New Global Competition for Talent by Richard Florida interview with the author:
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Comment #45 posted by herbdoc215 on May 31, 2005 at 01:13:50 PT

Uninsured...really what have those groups done
but fired some local activist out of their fundraising/boogeyman cannons for their own purposes but what true change have they accomplished? Every local grass roots group whose dealt with them that I know have come away burned after doing all the heavy work only to get sold out... from Prop215 to now? Patients getting medicine any cheaper? Safer? Public opinion you say, well I can show polls from 96 that are as good as any today on public opinion about medical cannabis...pretty much unchanged except for them nice saleries they draw just like cops do to maintain status quo! No status quo = no money. As an example here is an article about professional "activist" and what they actually accomplish let's see how many can substitute the word cannabis where it needs to be to see allagory?   Donnelly, Behind green curtain...
NORML is the best but that is also why they recieve the least funding...sometimes things are not always what they seem...wheels within wheels.
even the ACLU was given earmarked money to defend certain things about medical cannabis we haven't heard a peep about...I could go on all day but would just sound even nuttier and bitter than I really am. Fed up with people hiding behind us, I can name names of friends, patients, and loved ones who have died waiting for these men to grow a heart. Millions have been squandered at the direction of a few individuals whom I'll refrain from naming now but they know who they are. Owe yes, I know all the good dirt on thats been swept under the rug the last 8 years by our own movement, "for our own good". One can NEVER hope to know enough to do evil in order to bring about a good! The only change coming is that supreme court ruling...if we win Pharma companies can kiss US bye as whole cannabis will ALWAYS win but if we lose then it's game, set, match (in usa at least) and some better be looking to their hole card as cops are going to go buck-ass wild! Peace, steve tuck
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Comment #44 posted by PainWithNoInsurance on May 31, 2005 at 00:29:03 PT


We will and are winning this war. I admire your determination too. I personally think a whole lot of credit for the progress we have seen so far goes to organizations like NORML, MPP, DPA, ACLU and all of the others doing the work it takes to educate, lobby, file wrongful and unconstitutional law suits, and correct lies. What we need is to find ways to support these organizations to make them strong and powerful. Uninsured
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Comment #43 posted by herbdoc215 on May 30, 2005 at 23:49:52 PT

Those on our side who work 
for Big Weed (is that a better term/safer?) are NO better than Bartwell and are being pwned just like always! I still say the answer lies in the "friends and family" list which can be gotten feelings/warnings on this subject has been center of many debates here over last 4 years and I'm glad I've lived long enough for all my enemies to show their true faces :) and now people are seeing I wasn't as crazy as so may thought, I just can't be bought/scared off as I got nothing to lose and too many who saw what I did with my actions and not my mouth to play me! If anybody is interested just search the archives here with my name and certain corp.'s to save me posting them again and getting into trouble with FoM :)...see I can learn:) ONLY by the truth can we escape this crap and keepiong quiet about abuse has never helped anybody. The cold truth of day is patients are being exploited by so many groups we don't know who to turn to or what to believe anymore. Like a roach fleeing light we flee pain, all we represent are dollar signs for the professional "activist" and to the PIG's. With the revolving door between sides always spinning, names trade but allegience is always to the almighty dollar only in both cases! But those of you who cooperate with the 'vichy' weed groups best remember is we won't forget this shit later, bet that! There will be justice someday, those who believe they have gotten over on us patients are in for a rude awakening in the near future as all your schemes will be for naught. Little Eichmans we have aplenty I've always known, but the number of Goebels on our side is just amazing! We will figure out a place to out the truth about this damn movement if I got to build it my damn self and dig rocks to fund it, for once in my life I AM FED UP AND AIN'T GONNA TAKE NO MORE! Peace, steve tuck  in exile- 4th year
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Comment #42 posted by FoM on May 30, 2005 at 22:16:42 PT

Thanks!  I didn't know she was that young.
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Comment #41 posted by goneposthole on May 30, 2005 at 21:08:56 PT

It was not a good day for Saint Joan
May 30th 1431  Joan of Arc, burned as a witch by English at Rouen at 19 is just as bad for the modern day cannabis user. 

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Comment #40 posted by Dankhank on May 30, 2005 at 18:58:57 PT

Right back atch ya ...
Toker00, you have mail ...
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Comment #39 posted by global_warming on May 30, 2005 at 17:29:44 PT

Day In What Court?
" Mr. Krieger, who suffers from multiple sclerosis and uses cannabis butter to ease the pain, lost a 2-1 split decision in the Alberta Court of Appeal late last month.The 50-year-old man was convicted in December 2003 for possessing 29 pot plants."Thumbs Up for Mr. Krieger, and all the 50+ year olds on this planet,..may your journey be as free and unencumbered as possible, given our limited ability to serve and give comfort on this planet..
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Comment #38 posted by FoM on May 30, 2005 at 17:28:11 PT

Thanks kaptinemo
I just came in from outside. We have the most beautiful full rainbow in the sky. It's gorgeous. Maybe it will bring Mr. Krieger good luck!
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Comment #37 posted by kaptinemo on May 30, 2005 at 17:07:44 PT:

Unrelated: Pot crusader to get day in Supreme 
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Comment #36 posted by global_warming on May 30, 2005 at 16:43:51 PT

:Two RCMP officers on regular patrol observed C and a male passenger sitting in a van by the ocean. As the officers approached, C, who was in the driver's seat, started the engine and began to back up. As one of the officers came alongside the van, he smelled a strong odour of recently smoked marihuana. C produced for the officer a partially smoked joint which weighed 0.5 gram. He possessed the joint for his own use and not for any other purpose...A law that has the potential to imprison a person whose conduct causes little or no reasoned risk of harm to others offends the principles of fundamental justice...All sides agree that marihuana is a psychoactive drug which "causes alteration of mental function". That, indeed, is the purpose for which the accused use it. There are concurrent findings in the courts below of "harm" that is neither insignificant nor trivial. Certain groups in society share a particular vulnerability to its effects. While members of these groups, whose identity cannot in general be distinguished from other users in advance, are relatively small as a percentage of all marihuana users, their numbers are significant in absolute terms...
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Comment #35 posted by FoM on May 30, 2005 at 16:29:30 PT

That's right in my book. I don't like corporation at all either. 
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Comment #34 posted by global_warming on May 30, 2005 at 16:21:28 PT
" I know it is because of the anticipation of the Raich decision and it will go back down after we know where we stand. I wasn't into news or anything before CNews and it is a wonderful adventure to travel and learn along the way."Hi Max, hope you packed a lunch,..Along the way, you and I might meet, along the way, someone may see a hand of mercy passing along the way..along the way, we may see each other, along the way, we can watch our brothers and sisters slaughter each other, along the way.So sad, that "we the people" are too busy killing each other, when we could be understating, could in the blink of an eye, acknowledge and offer the hand of understanding.It is not the end of prohibition, it is the end of the old world, it is the end of belief systems that have been formed on the shifting sands of fear.Like the sands that cover Rome and Babylon, so too our bones and monuments, succumb to our brother time and his sister eternity.A new child has been born, and his birth has been marked in the stars,
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Comment #33 posted by Toker00 on May 30, 2005 at 16:03:23 PT

FoM   dankhank
I think I see what you mean, FoM. We can discuss the fact that Corporate America has conspired for decades to keep Cannabis off the free market, but we just can't name specific Co. names? Or provide what we beilieve to be damning evidence? That would keep you liable free, right? I hope?That was some good moderating there, Max. Your idea is a good one. I admit I don't contribute more than mediocre dribble here, but I would visit and participate at a hardcore activist site, like you mention, just to stay on the front line. I don't post these wonderful links you guys provide, but I do distribute them. Thanks for the address, dankhank. You have hotmail.Peace. Legalize, then Revolutionize.
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Comment #32 posted by FoM on May 30, 2005 at 15:38:46 PT

I removed the extra post. I call it a hiccup! LOL!
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Comment #31 posted by FoM on May 30, 2005 at 15:35:57 PT

Max Flowers
That's excellent advice. I know that I want CNews to be about cannabis because that is all I was really ever interested in. Over the years when I didn't know what direction CNews should or would go I would study individual news articles and see how often they were accessed. I found that cannabis related news articles are very high and drug type news barely read. All that means is that there are people who are interested only in marijuana issues. I'm trying not to have to do more news then the public who visits CNews would want to read. I also watch our daily and monthly statistics. We have been growing a little at a time over the years and the month of May we'll hit 4,000,000 for the second month in a row. I know it is because of the anticipation of the Raich decision and it will go back down after we know where we stand. I wasn't into news or anything before CNews and it is a wonderful adventure to travel and learn along the way. I also want CNews to be a sanctuary of sorts so people can come here and not get all fired up after reading news or comments. I need a sanctuary and I know others do too.
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Comment #30 posted by Dankhank on May 30, 2005 at 15:19:55 PT

posted twice?
How'd that happen?Don't know ...seems silly to have 26 and 29 say the same ...delete if you care FoM
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Comment #29 posted by Dankhank on May 30, 2005 at 15:14:53 PT:

FoM, I didn't save your address ...E me again, put CRL in subject lineToker00, try this E address ...or this dankhank hotmail.comCRL in subject linePeace to all who fight ..
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Comment #28 posted by global_warming on May 30, 2005 at 15:14:37 PT

"I only say what I mean. If someone wants to sue a company they should go ahead and do it. I just don't want CNews or me or DrugSense to be caught in the middle. "There seems to be some chatter between you and some of the posters,that is not published on this forum, blog, list of affairs that supports the end of the prohibition of cannabis.I reckon if you are sick or very old, then it will not matter, how one is disposed with, but if you are still young enough to cling to those material hopes and dreams, then I might understand your reaction, to the possibilities of a "legal" action.They may come to my house someday, and they may lay claim to everything I possess, half of my dogs came from a kill shelter and the others are lame, yet, I know that when that moment arrives, I can rest, knowing that my animals will be destroyed, my home taken away from me, and I will know that what I will suffer, is far less than my understanding, for I know that in all of human justice, the truth will surface to rejoice with God.These times, that we are living in, are the times of martyrs, and with each human being that is caged or killed, for reaching for that light, for smoking that joint, it shall be a reminder, for time evermore, and those innocent lights, from deep within the caverns of our prison system, will be heard, their passions, their love, will forever fill and haunt our existence.Something has spooked you, I hope that it is only a fleeting dream, and this new day will illuminate the opportunities, that are in our

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Comment #27 posted by Max Flowers on May 30, 2005 at 15:11:57 PT

Watching what we say
Here are my thoughts about and activism. From my angle it looks like the work that some people on CNews are doing has in some ways outgrown CNews as a base website. The disagreement in this thread is a perfect example. By that I mean that I think the aggressive truth-telling that a certain core group on here engage in would be best employed on a harder-core site with activist goals. I've been noticing for a while that FoM is increasingly nervous about the content of the comments here. Maybe it is time for certain core members to start their own site that has a more focused mission of activism. CNews was never intended to be such an activist site as far as I can tell... it seems to have happened spontaneously from the quality members it attracted and the fact that people can write comments. FoM seems to be conflicted sometimes between her desire to see people speak the truth in the comments and making sure the comments fit within a somewhat narrow range of tone and subject. To isolate cannabis and medical cannabis as the news subjects from the broader and highly relevant subject of the drug war in general in my opinion dilutes the potential power of activism and posts decrying the drug war as a whole. But then I can also understand FoM's reluctance, because in the end it is a site for "cannabis news" and not "" But some of you here would obviously make a brilliant core team for a more aggressive site geared to exposing the information that gets exposed here via comments and links.While I love CNews, I personally would also love to see a much more aggressive and activist site launched by people like Sam Adams, Kaptinemo, E_Johnson, Taylor, afterburner, BGreen, goneposthole, John Tyler, Jose, etc. or any combination of those folks and others here like them... really smart, worldly and insightful writing being the common thread. I guess what I'm saying is that there are some really fine minds who post comments here regularly who in my view deserve a much more proactive role in the scene than the relatively passive role of simply commenting here.Put another way: it ain't hard or expensive at all to have your own website like FoM has here, folks. Of course there's some maintenance work involved, and stuff that has to be done, but all in all it's pretty easy to do. Rather than worry whether our comments are appropriate for CNews, I say we should be starting new blog sites that say what needs saying without having to worry.I don't mean to diminish the great work FoM has done here at all. I love this site. But maybe some regulars here need to "fly the nest" and build their own niche in the webscape in order to ensure the whole message gets out? I for one would love to see it happen and would help out in that effort.
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Comment #25 posted by FoM on May 30, 2005 at 14:48:11 PT

No one has scared me. I just know that we could get in trouble. To talk about a company isn't smart but to say we want cannabis legal and we aren't interested in waiting for Sativex that is fine. I have been sued before and I know what it is like. Not here but in our business. I paid out more money fighting it then it was worth. When a big pharm company stands to lose a lot of money they can call out the big corporate lawyers. I'm just being cautious from years of knowing how it can be. 
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Comment #24 posted by Toker00 on May 30, 2005 at 14:41:23 PT

Do not stop the fight.
FoM, it sounds like someone has scared you. Is it really possible C-news could be included in a law suit because of what we post here? Could we get a drift of what you are talking about when you say:"Thanks in advance and I hope everyone understands. We don't have to like Barthwell because of the double standard but when we fight a big pharmaceutical company there is no way we can win. "Should we stop laying the blame of Cannabis prohibition on the obvious Corporate conspiracy to keep it off the free market? This is not just a theory. It is a provable conspiracy, I feel.Are we making C-news liable for what we post? I'm confused and concerned. I would do the same thing Jose is doing if I were that smart. I have no idea what was in his e-mails to Marc. I appreciate what Jose posts concerning the damage cover-up by a "big pharmaceutical company", though. How can we fight them if we can't expose their weakneses? I love this site and don't understand what you, Marc, and Jose are saying completely, but are we not to post aganinst corporations now, in fear of C-news being sued by "big corporations"?Please explain?Peace. Legalize, then Revolutionize!(medicine)(energy)(nutrition)
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Comment #23 posted by FoM on May 30, 2005 at 14:41:21 PT

If you ever decide to send an article to Mapinc. you can include your blog's web address and it then gets circulated in their emails they have. That's a nice feature and I wanted to mention it to you.
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Comment #22 posted by FoM on May 30, 2005 at 14:32:38 PT

I only say what I mean. If someone wants to sue a company they should go ahead and do it. I just don't want CNews or me or DrugSense to be caught in the middle. 
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Comment #21 posted by FoM on May 30, 2005 at 14:29:57 PT

I agree with you about writing to papers. I don't write because I don't feel I can but I did hawk thousands of articles to Mapinc. to be posted over the years. If people can't write then maybe they can newshawk articles for them. It all matters. It's not hard to do once a person learns how to do it.
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Comment #20 posted by global_warming on May 30, 2005 at 14:16:56 PT

Are you serious?
"Thanks in advance and I hope everyone understands. We don't have to like Barthwell because of the double standard but when we fight a big pharmaceutical company there is no way we can win. "
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Comment #19 posted by Taylor121 on May 30, 2005 at 14:11:49 PT

Don't Forget the Difference We Make!
Don't forget that this was a letter published after the horrible article published previous to correct some of hogwish printed by an unaware editor. I'm calling on everyone to do their part. An important piece of reform comes from us writing to the editors of various newspapers and news outlets and expressing ourselves in an articulate manner to get printed. An extremely good tool to do just that is at Tips to write to the editor, all drug war news archived. It is important that we all contribute to this organization and I admit I have been busy working on other projects but after reading Pete's article earlier today, I plan to link them on my blog and I realize the importance of people participating in their activites. Letter writers through MAP have gotten letters published with a combined value of over $2 million each year ( ). That's alot of advertisement, but it really is better than advertisement since all the letters are customized to reach a target audience on a specific topic. I would weight these letters as a very important element to defeating the drug war.Support them:
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Comment #18 posted by FoM on May 30, 2005 at 12:13:41 PT

One More Comment
Never forget that a lawsuit could evolve from this battle against Bayer. I don't want CNews involved if a lawsuit would ever happen. We need to be discreet when we say things even if we know beyond a shadow of a doubt what we say is true. That's reality. I don't want Mark Greer, because CNews is in DrugSenses name to protect me from copyright issues, to ever be sued and I know how things happen like this because we have operated our own business that deals with the public in the past. Thanks in advance and I hope everyone understands. We don't have to like Barthwell because of the double standard but when we fight a big pharmaceutical company there is no way we can win. 
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Comment #17 posted by FoM on May 30, 2005 at 11:52:47 PT

Please don't push me. I don't appreciate it.
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Comment #16 posted by jose melendez on May 30, 2005 at 11:50:44 PT

Excuse me?
What angry posts? I usually post news and scientific studies clippings, along with letters to the editor and stuff exposing those who pay for ads attempting to restrain the cannabis trade.Like this: Bayer pays $66 million in price-fix caseGerman drugmaker agrees to a guilty plea and a fine for its part in the chemical price-fixing case.July 14, 2004: 7:01 PM EDTWASHINGTON (Reuters) - Germany's Bayer AG agreed to plead guilty and pay a $66 million fine as part of an ongoing U.S. investigation into price fixing of rubber chemicals, the Justice Department said on Wednesday.Bayer will plead guilty to one felony count under charges that it conspired to suppress competition for products sold between 1995 and 2001 and agreed to help the government in its ongoing probe, the department said." The company charged today will provide valuable assistance in our continued investigation in the rubber chemicals industry," James Griffin, deputy assistant attorney generalor this: FoE joy as Bayer drops legal action Rob EvansWednesday June 30, 2004The Guardian Environmental campaigners have won a legal battle against a multinational company on the right to publicise the potential hazards of pesticides. Bayer has been forced to drop a court action against Friends of the Earth, in what FoE called a "humiliating climbdown". FoE believes it is an important victory in its campaign for greater openness surrounding pesticides. FoE campaigners had obtained safety studies submitted by Bayer to the Swedish inspectorate responsible for regulating pesticides. The documents were released by the Swedish government under its"freedom of information" laws. Bayer demanded that FoE promise not to tell the public it had obtained these studies, nor how to obtain further such studies. FoE refused. Bayer went to the high court last October to get an injunction gagging the FoE campaigners. The company, which has a global turnover of £20bn, warned it would sue FoE for damages. FoE campaigners challenged the injunction and this week Bayer withdrew the injunction and promised to take no further legal moves against FoE. A Bayer spokesman said the company wanted to protect data which "would be valuable to competitors". Now, what's this all about, _really_?
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Comment #15 posted by FoM on May 30, 2005 at 11:45:10 PT

I'm sorry to read that. I guess I stay out of things and just read and haven't noticed anything wrong. Don't let your health be hurt by problems like this. It just isn't worth it.
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Comment #14 posted by FoM on May 30, 2005 at 11:41:35 PT

Jose I don't want problems for anyone here or CNews and if something is written on another web site it should remain there. I don't read angry posts from people. If you have a serious problem with someone or something you should make it private.
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Comment #13 posted by Marc Paquette on May 30, 2005 at 11:40:41 PT:

Re: Hi Marc
Hi FoM :)We don't always know what's happening behind the scenes my friend. I have received some pretty nasty emails from someone you know and from a list that both you and I are also members.This person told me that I was a nuisance to the acceptance of Sativex by the FDA in US and also told me that if the sick and dying people in most of US can't access to marijuana, it would the fault of people like "me" if they can't access to Sativex!By fear of judicial reprisals, I will not mention this person or even give you a hint, but these emails made me feel quite nervous..which didn't help my already fragile health condition.Take care dear Deb :)Marc
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Comment #12 posted by jose melendez on May 30, 2005 at 11:34:09 PT

brought to my attention
Someone who wishes to remain anonymous has accused me of echoing untrue statements.I firmly reject those arguments, and find evidence to support my contention that Big Pharma consistently suppresses harm to their clients and colludes financially to create a device in restraint of the cannabis trade.Furthermore, this particular company that GW is doing business with, Bayer AG is on the record as a major and relevant player in the trillion dollar game of industrial and pharmaceutical coverups and fraud. Big bad GW?When the deal uniting Bayer and GW was announced, GW's critics jumped all over it, alleging that Bayer is an evil company and that GW's embrace of Bayer indicated bad intent.David Malmo-Levine said: "Bayer is arguably the worst corporation on earth. They are the inventors and propagators of Aspirin, Heroin, Mustard Gas, forced labor, the Nazi party, Zyklon B, death labor, Tabun and Sarin nerve gas, parathion, Codex, Cipro, Baycol, Baygon, Fenthion, Baysiston, TDI Olaqunidox, PPA's, PCB's and other such wonders. Bayer has the worst ethical track record of any company this author knows of."Dr. Ethan Russo, a long-time cannabis researcher who now works for GW, says Malmo-Levine "seems to be against the entire system of intellectual property, corporations, scientific research, medical progress, and patents.""In almost every area of human endeavor, from journalism to medicine to the music industry, individuals and corporations create unique ideas and products and then seek to protect their work through copyrights and patents," Russo explains. "Even if marijuana was totally legal, most people would not conduct the kind of scientific research that GW is conducting. This research uses cannabinoids to extend lives, cure diseases, and relieve disease symptoms. GW has helped legitimize cannabis medicines, and the company has a right to protect its discoveries and its investments." What about Malmo-Levine's charges that Bayer worked with Hitler's government and continues to be an unethical company?"I'm Jewish," Russo responds, "and I am as horrified by the Holocaust and Hitler as anyone would be, but this is not 1940. Dr. Guy was courted by several pharmaceutical companies, and he chose Bayer as his partner because Bayer is a leading pharmaceutical company committed to getting cannabis medicines to as many people as possible." - - - Not horrified enough, evidently:Present: In an effort to appease American euphoriphobia-and turn a healthy profit elsewhere-the British company GW Pharmaceuticals has developed a cannabis-based spray. According to the Toronto-based magazine The Walrus (Feb. 2005), users are promised all the medicinal benefits of marijuana without the cancerous smoke and tar. The company has also developed a tamper-proof inhaler that prevents abuse of the substance. A doctor simply keys in the allowable dose- enough to relieve chronic pain, but not enough to get the user stoned-and any attempt to sneak a little more results in a cutoff.GW is currently seeking government approval for the product, which seems likely since Parliament allowed the company to experiment with massive amounts of cannabis in its initial research. The German-based drug giant Bayer AG has already paid $60 million for the European rights and $14 million for the right to market in Canada, where similar products are being developed.In the short term, at least, GW's prospects in the U.S. marketplace appear to be dim. In part, reporter Brian Preston writes in The Walrus, that's because any type of cannabis-based drug- whether it is smoked or inhaled as a mist-is considered guilty until proven innocent. What's more, Americans already have access to a synthetic THC pill called Marinol, which the DEA argues is both safe and effective. Critics counter that Marinol takes too long to kick in, is hard for vomiting patients to swallow, and, like many synthetic drugs, can cause severe side effects.Ironically, GW and Bayer AG will also face resistance from activists on the other side of the issue, who worry that the fight to legalize a medicinal spray will only legitimize America's anti- pot paranoia.Past: Although morphine was originally touted as a cure for many maladies, even for opium addiction, by the 1870s physicians had become increasingly aware of its own addictive properties. Ironically, C.R. Alder Wright, a chemist at a London hospital who was searching for a non-addictive alternative to morphine, came up with a more potent narcotic, diacetylmorphine, in 1874.Heinrich Dreser, a chemist at Bayer Laboratories developed and tested Wright's new semi-synthetic drug on animals, humans, and most notably himself. Finding that it was a powerful painkiller and appeared effective for a variety of respiratory ailments, Bayer began producing and marketing this drug as an analgesic and a "sedative for coughs" in 1898. Because of its "heroic" ability to relieve pain, they called it heroin.The medical profession initially welcomed the new drug but soon recognized it's addictive potential. In 1913, Bayer halted production, edited the drug out of their official company history and focused instead on marketing their second blockbuster drug, aspirin.Coverup: Posted 3/2/2003 11:51 PM   Updated 3/3/2003 9:36 AM	
E-mails put Bayer on the spot
By Jim Hopkins, USA TODAY
CORPUS CHRISTI, Texas — Some Bayer officials were worried about growing reports of deaths associated with the company's anti-cholesterol drug 18 months before it was pulled from the market, newly disclosed company documents show. "So much for keeping this quiet," Patricia Stenger, a manager in Bayer's scientific affairs unit, told other executives in a February 2000 e-mail.Bayer (BAY) was then seeking critical approval from regulators to sell its Baycol drug at doses double those permitted in order to increase the drug's effectiveness and its sales, documents from lawyers suing the company show. The Food and Drug Administration gave its approval in July 2000.In a second Stenger e-mail, in June 2000, an attached document says doctors who reported problems were hearing of similar cases. They "appear to be more angry and concerned and feel that Bayer is hiding information," the attached document says.Seed Rape, or Poisonining the Planet and the People, for profit:"You can keep changing the name, but you can't undo the damage done..." - - -Decision:,1249,600126354,00.html "Simply stated, to declare all (ephedrine supplements) adulterated, as it has done, the FDA must prove that any dose, no matter how small, presents a significant or unreasonable risk of illness of injury,"

Million Marijuana Lawsuits
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Comment #11 posted by jose melendez on May 30, 2005 at 10:54:08 PT

when we win I want a memorial for drug war victims
Until then, any company supporting prohibition ought to quit funding false advertising about marijuana through the Partnership for a Drug Free America and start fixing their own defective and deadly drugs and delivery devices, before civil actions become criminal cases . . . The Kahn Gauthier Law Group is investigating possible legal actions against Bayer A.G., the German pharmaceutical and chemical conglomerate, after Bayer recalled its cholesterol-lowering drug Baycol (cerivastatin sodium tablets) due to terrible side effects on August 8, 2001. Although Bayer initially reported that the number of deaths worldwide was 52, Bayer doubled that estimate in January, 2002. Meanwhile, the German federal institute for drugs and medical products announced that worldwide around 1,100 cases of side effects such as muscular atrophy are suspected to be linked to Baycol. The side effects, injuries and deaths are due to complications from a condition called rhabdomyolysis, in which muscle cells break down and release potentially toxic cell contents into the bloodstream.Symptoms of rhabdomyolysis include muscle pain, tenderness and weakness--most commonly in the calves and lower back. Malaise, fever, dark urine, vomiting and nausea can also be symptoms. 
 The future of the venerable Aspirin maker Bayer A.G. appeared in critical condition yesterday after the pharmaceutical giant recalled its cholesterol-lowering drug Baycol, following reports of patient deaths.
    Severe and at times fatal muscle weakness was found in some patients using the prescription drug, which is also sold overseas as Lipobay and is generically known as cerivastatin.
    The U.S. Food and Drug Administration reported 31 deaths linked to the drug in the United States. Health Canada has received reports of 32 cases of serious muscle weakness associated with it, including 10 cases of kidney failure and one death.
    Bayer, Europe’s second-largest drugs group, said side effects occurred particularly when the drug was used in combination with another anticholesterol drug, gemfibrozil.
    Unable to stem the problem through warning labels, Bayer said yesterday it would immediately take the drug off pharmacy shelves around the world, except in Japan where gemfibrozil is unavailable, at a loss of potentially more than $1-billion (U.S.) in sales. On May 21, 2003, GW Pharmaceuticals, makers of Sativex, a cannabis based medicinal inhalant, announced their 40 million dollar marketing partnership with Bayer. Malmo-Levine looks at the history of Bayer and their criminal activities in all three world wars. Then DML conducts an interview with Ikechi Mgbeoji, professor of Law at UBC, and his opinion on the viability of a cannabis monopoly though pharmaceutical plant patents of existing strains.see also: 
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Comment #10 posted by FoM on May 30, 2005 at 10:53:53 PT

Hi Marc
I know we can be a big pain but we are never a nuisance and you know that too! Hey when we're right we're right and when we're wrong we acknowledge it too. I hope you are feeling better and keep up the good work you do!
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Comment #9 posted by Marc Paquette on May 30, 2005 at 10:42:20 PT:

Let's Watch Them "Destroy" Their Own Market!
Sit back and relax my Friends :)Nothing we can do or say will change GW's mind with the
prohibitionist(s) they hire in trying to gain the US FDA approval for Sativex.In Canada, once available, the sales of Sativex could have a short life, not because of marjuana activists, BUT because of "Hellth Canada's" (Health Canada) severe restrictions and regulations upon this non-toxic "narcotic" medicine.There are no insurance plans to cover this "medicine" either, and people living with economic restrainsts will not be able to afford it.I think that marijuana prohibition is not only in our way, but ALSO in GW Pharmaceuticals and Bayer's way!But it's easier when they blame their problems on marijuana
activists like us though.If these people can't open their eyes, it's not our problem.Maybe if they could take a few puffs of a good mind-expanding strain of cannabis, they could finally realize that they should help us instead of accusing some of us of being a nuisance!Marc
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Comment #8 posted by FoM on May 30, 2005 at 10:27:35 PT

One More Comment
The video link I posted in comment 3 is how I feel on this Memorial Day and it was a way of me to express how I felt. God Bless our troops and Lord have mercy on our leaders if He can.
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Comment #7 posted by FoM on May 30, 2005 at 10:24:27 PT

 Liquid Version of Marijuana called Sativex
That is 100% true! I really appreciate the truth!
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Comment #6 posted by FoM on May 30, 2005 at 10:12:47 PT

A Comment on the Article
This is a very well said and to the point LTE. I appreciate it.
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Comment #5 posted by jose melendez on May 30, 2005 at 10:11:09 PT

Whodunit: Unmasked by Team Mystery Machine 
 . . . and she'd have gotten away with it if it was not for us meddling kids . . . - - -from: - IMPORTANT NOTE - We have this fine program to thank for The Scooby Doo Rule which can be applied to any mystery program. The rule ...The first character that you see who is NOT part of the main cast...they did it. It works most of the time, from Rosebud to Mr. Jones left muttering about those meddling kids. - Ed. - When the analysis of the "Scooby snacks" came back from the police lab and Shaggy got 5-7 in the State Pen. Come on! Four kids and a dog riding around rural America in a garishly painted van would be pulled over *every mile* by State Troopers. (It wouldn't help that Shaggy looks like a Deadhead, constantly has the munchies, and thinks his dog can talk).
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Comment #4 posted by cloud7 on May 30, 2005 at 09:55:07 PT

This should be in bold
as it describes a much larger portion of the "drug warriors" than just Dr. Barthwell."When shorn of the glowing rhetoric of saving the children, Dr. Barthwell is just another self-seeking opportunist who is well aware of the futility of attempting to control illicit drugs in this country using the punitive approach."
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Comment #3 posted by FoM on May 30, 2005 at 09:04:56 PT

Share This Too!
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Comment #2 posted by jose melendez on May 30, 2005 at 09:00:49 PT

share this file
Weed Man Theme Song (right click to download):
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Comment #1 posted by FoM on May 30, 2005 at 08:58:36 PT

Flurry of Major Rulings Expected to Start
By David G. SavageMonday, May 30, 2005 
WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court justices usually leave some of the hardest cases for the final month of the term, and this year is no different. The court is due to decide 29 cases by the end of June, including nettlesome issues surrounding medical marijuana, the Ten Commandments and the Internet.But this year, the term's end could be overshadowed by the retirement of Chief Justice William Rehnquist. Since October, he has been battling thyroid cancer. And though his voice has sounded stronger in recent weeks, he is widely expected to announce soon that he will step down at the end of the current term.Tomorrow, the court will meet to hand down rulings, and it is likely to issue decisions on one or two days each week for the rest of June.Here are some key issues awaiting a decision:• Ten Commandments: Can government officials prominently display the Biblical Commandments at public buildings or in courthouses to demonstrate the nation's religious heritage? Or does this official display amount to the government's promotion of religion in violation of the First Amendment? The court will rule on two cases: a Ten Commandments monument outside the Texas state Capitol and plaques featuring the Commandments posted in Kentucky courthouses.• Medical marijuana: Can federal agents raid the homes of California patients who grow marijuana for their own use? Although the medical use of marijuana is legal in California and nine other states, federal authorities say they can override those state laws. The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals said the federal officials had exceeded their constitutional power.• File sharing: Can film studios and record labels go to court to shut down Internet-based companies that help computer users download free copies of music and movies? This is a multibillion-dollar question of copyright law. The movie and record industries say unchecked Internet piracy threatens to make copyrights meaningless.• Internet access: Must cable and phone companies allow outside companies, such as Earthlink, to offer broadband Internet service to customers, or may they instead reserve their lines for their own broadband service? A divided Federal Communications Commission said cable companies can keep exclusive control of their lines. If the FCC prevails, it plans to adopt the same rule for phone companies. The outcome may determine how much choice consumers will have in Internet access.• Property rights: Can cities seize private property to make way for business development? A Connecticut case could limit the government's power of "eminent domain." The Constitution says officials may take possession of private property "for public use," and the homeowners who are fighting the city of New London say private development is not a public use.• Restraining orders: Can the police be sued for failing to enforce a restraining order? The case before the court is tragic — a mother whose three daughters were murdered by her estranged husband — but during the oral argument the justices were skeptical of the claim that the police can be held liable for not acting in time. 
• Religion in prison: Can Congress require state prisons to make special accommodations for the religious needs of their inmates? Five years ago, a bipartisan group of lawmakers won passage of a new law to further religious liberty, but prison officials have opposed it.• Juries and race: What should judges do if prosecutors remove several blacks from a jury pool? The court has said the Constitution forbids racial bias in selecting jurors, but it has struggled on how to enforce that rule.• Drug research: Can scientists make use of patented drugs and devices while researching new drugs? A 1984 law exempted such research from charges of patent infringement, but that law has been read narrowly to cover only research data to be presented to the Food and Drug Administration. Researchers at the Scripps Institute in La Jolla, Calif., were hit with a $15 million judgment for patent infringement.• Cruise ships: Does the federal law that protects disabled Americans from discrimination apply to passengers who travel on foreign-flagged cruise ships? This case tests the reach of U.S. law.Copyright: 2005 The Seattle Times Company

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