cannabisnews.com: Drug Warriors Make Millions Off Marijuana Drug Warriors Make Millions Off Marijuana Posted by CN Staff on December 18, 2004 at 21:55:09 PT By Froma Harrop Source: Providence Journal The money in illicit drugs doesn't all go to bad guys carrying AK-47s and driving BMWs. About $69 billion of it last year went to police, federal agents, judges, jailers and other drug-law enforcers across the United States. These are the good guys, but most are not so good that they will admit that the war on drugs is a waste of money and lives. The war is how they make a living.Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer wasn't thinking about the billions when he played the innocent during the recent arguments on medical marijuana. Breyer conceded that he didn't really know whether marijuana helped cancer patients in ways that pills do not. But it puzzled him, he said, that the patients' lawyers didn't just go to the federal Food and Drug Administration and insist, "You must take it off the list of banned drugs if it has an accepted medical use and it isn't lacking in safety."Sounds like common sense: Make a scientific evaluation of medical marijuana, and then decide whether or not it belongs in the people's medicine cabinets.But that's not going to happen. A week later, the federal Drug Enforcement Administration told Prof. Lyle Craker, a horticulturist at the University of Massachusetts, that he couldn't grow marijuana for the purpose of making such an evaluation.Craker is an expert on medicinal plants. (Over 25 percent of all prescription medicines are plant-based.) He wanted to grow the type of marijuana needed for secondary clinical trials -- which are run by DEA-licensed medical professionals.Observe how DEA bureaucrats draw a perfect circle of frustration. They say that researchers should instead use marijuana grown at a University of Mississippi lab. But the marijuana there is low-quality and worthless to the scientists.Then they tell Craker that there's no need for his improved marijuana, because no one is doing secondary trials, anyway. But people aren't doing secondary trials because they can't get the plant material to do them with. "It's kind of silly here," Craker concludes.DEA officials are not biologists and have no idea what distinguishes one type of marijuana from another. But that's not the point of the exercise. The point is to stop any activity that might eventually hurt business.Snipped:Complete Article: http://www.freedomtoexhale.com/warriors.htmSource: Providence Journal, The (RI)Author: Froma HarropPublished: Sunday, December 19, 2004Copyright: 2004 The Providence Journal CompanyContact: letters projo.comWebsite: http://www.projo.com/Related Articles & Web Sites:MAPShttp://www.maps.org/LEAPhttp://www.leap.org/DEA Upholds Grower's Marijuana Monopolyhttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread20044.shtmlDEA Ruling Renders Approval Impossiblehttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread20037.shtmlUp In Smoke: A Setback for Medical Marijuanahttp://cannabisnews.com/news/thread20035.shtml Home Comment Email Register Recent Comments Help Comment #41 posted by dr slider on December 21, 2004 at 01:11:57 PT: O say can you see? These "people" who rule us, stole our police from us almost a century ago and now they're stealing our military. These institutions exist to serve THE PEOPLE of the U.S.A., and have now both been highjacked to serve the interests of corporations who view the people as little more than cattle.With the people's defenders off serving other interests, who's available to come to the defense of the people, should we be threatened? The second amendment, you say? There are so few of the first ten amendments (Bill of Rights) that haven't been evicerated...O Yea All His Majesty has to do is declare an state of emergency, and they're all gone.If-n-when we ever see a clear picture of the new and improved Fallujah, take a really good look, cause this round of troops has a job waiting for them back in the states when they can't take the D.U. any more. Biometric national I.D.'s are already in the works. One of my favorite authors, R.A. Heinlein, called that development a sure sign that its time check out a different planet. I have a sneaking suspicion that that planet is much closer than we know. [ Post Comment ] Comment #40 posted by Hope on December 20, 2004 at 22:15:08 PT Comment 37, FoM I bet you're right...100%. [ Post Comment ] Comment #39 posted by Hope on December 20, 2004 at 21:49:22 PT Thank you, Mike You know right where FoM and I are! Thanks.But I still wish I knew if they were growing. I've been convinced for years that Law Enforcement is the key. If they don't want to participate in the Drug War in enough numbers Congress will listen to them. They don't listen to us, the common people, they don't listen to reason, but they will listen when and if law enforcement gets it through their heads that prohibition is the wrong way to go. I love LEAP. My heart leapt at their formation. It made me very hopeful and I still have more hope in them than in MPP, Drugsense, or anyone of us. I have hope, of course, in all our efforts but I believe that it will be law enforcement itself that will bring the end of prohibition. They are the key. When they turn, it's all over but the gratefulness. [ Post Comment ] Comment #38 posted by ekim on December 20, 2004 at 21:01:59 PT #30 please go see the judge --or other near you Eleanor Schockett Eleanor was elected to the Circuit Court of Miami-Dade County Florida Feb 1 05 Columbus Downtown Lions Club 12:00 PM Eleanor Schockett Columbus Ohio USA Board Member Judge Eleanor Schockett is growling the truth in the city when she meets with the Columbus Downtown Lions Club to discuss the failures of drug prohibition. Feb 1 05 Big Walnut Breakfast Lions Club 07:30 AM Eleanor Schockett Sundbury Ohio USA Board Member Judge Eleanor Schockett shells out the truth when she meets with members of the Big Walnut Breakfast Lions Club to discuss issues related to the failure of drug prohibition. Feb 3 05 Springfield Lions 12:00 PM Eleanor Schockett Springfield Ohio USA The Springfield Lions Club welcomes Board Member Judge Eleanor Schockett for lunch and discussion of the failures of drug prohibition. Feb 8 05 Washington Courthouse Rotary Club 12:00 PM Eleanor Schockett Washington Courthouse Ohio USA The Washington Courthouse Rotary Club welcomes Board Member Judge Eleanor Schockett for lunch and discussion of the failures of drug prohibition. http://leap.cc/speakers/schockett.htmMartha DeWolfeMartha DeWolfe joined the Grand Prairie police department http://leap.cc/speakers/dewolfe.htm http://www.leap.cc/events [ Post Comment ] Comment #37 posted by FoM on December 20, 2004 at 14:59:40 PT Money When we lost that connection with the police we lost so very much. I bet a policeman that doesn't have a good arrest record won't get promoted. He could be the greatest public servant and respected by citizens but it doesn't mean anything. I hope I'm wrong but that's what I think. [ Post Comment ] Comment #36 posted by Hope on December 20, 2004 at 14:48:03 PT what we've become as a nation Overly and extraordinarily punitive and prostituted, money grubbing, jackbooted reprobates. Hoping that someone from LEAP might read this...I still wonder if LEAP is growing.This is interesting. Cannabis is a vegetable?http://leap.cc/publications/ellison/greenhouseinyard.htm [ Post Comment ] Comment #35 posted by Hope on December 20, 2004 at 14:39:40 PT Money You're right, FoM.When the United States started allowing seizure and even worse, letting seizure be a source of income for departments, I knew we, as a nation, had seen the end of an era and the beginning of something bad. [ Post Comment ] Comment #34 posted by FoM on December 20, 2004 at 14:24:35 PT Hope Police are necessary to keep public order. That's what I always thought their job was suppose to be. If a person drank too much they would be put in jail overnight to protect them and others and then they were let out to go home when they sobered up. It was called a drunk tank. Now at the end of a month truckers must be extra careful because the police have to bring in money so they pop more drivers. Money and laws that serve no purpose that help keep public order are what makes police hard to deal with. That's just my opinion. [ Post Comment ] Comment #33 posted by Hope on December 20, 2004 at 14:04:32 PT LEOs, Bush, and Moses rchandar...I've thought about the Bush/Moses analogy and wanted to tell King George to "Let my people go!" by legalizing and ending the pogramme they have going. But thinking that way led me to the next step...a bunch of big ugly curses...arrggh...I dearly love some Republicans...not because they are, but in spite of it. If a plague came on all their house it would be so awful. So, I do so hope that we can get them to "let my people go."...without the curses. I hope. FoM, in this area there are so many LEO's that you can't even complain about them without stepping on some toes somewhere. Everybody I know or meet seems to be related to or is a law enforcement officer of one kind or another. I have two of them in my family! One of the relatives says he will be glad when marijuana is legalized and the Drug War ceases. The other one always looks at me like he suspects me of something. *smile*Plus two of my children and one of my in law children were sort of "recruited", by some law enforcement officers they knew as acquaintances, to join law enforcement. They said they would make wonderful narcs because everybody...all kinds of people liked them and trusted them and they could fit in anywhere. Aaarggh. Yes, most people are attracted to them...because they are honest, friendly, intelligent, and funny, and share with me a natural distaste for people who use their charisma to lie and deceive for a living.First they each, and all laughed then told the LEOs, "Nah...I like people too much. I could never arrest anyone, especially for drugs." It gives me a feeling like they tried to molest my children...or at least their souls.Because of the drug war I know more people that have been to jail than I ever thought I would know, but even creepier is how many people are involved in law enforcement. It's just creepy. Once, in meeting a couple of young men that are friends of my granddaughter, all this was born out in the conversation following our introductions. After asking about their parents, one teenager casually informed me that his dad was a high ranking LEO. The other one piped up with a grin, "And my dad's a convicted felon."We laughed, but it's really not funny. It was true and it makes me so sad. [ Post Comment ] Comment #32 posted by FoM on December 20, 2004 at 13:08:55 PT rchandar I agree with what you are saying. Money is what determines what is acceptable and what is not in this country. It really isn't moral issues because if it was why do Republicans seem to not be touched by scandal and Democrats are raked over the coals? We are fighting money. If the drug policy reform movement was very very rich and had money to burn these laws would be changed in a short time. Morality equals money. It's not God. [ Post Comment ] Comment #31 posted by rchandar on December 20, 2004 at 13:00:50 PT: FoM It just means that more and more people here will be disenfranchised and, basically, who will abdicate the "American Dream."Even Kerry made a big thing about how he was for (as Clinton said) the "forgotten middle class" who "play by the rules"; the primary issue for him was jobs and education, not lifestyles or beliefs. Politically, America is simply too conservative; never has there been a significant Presidential candidate that accepted onto the party platform a plea to redress the problems and restore hope for what I call "America's Huguenots," those who espouse lifestyles and ideation not duplicated by the government. It's very strange; most of the other Western democracies have major political parties who, visibly at least, would "represent" the interests and legality of millions of smokers--Moses, to Bush: "Let my people go."Bush: "F# k you, loser! Exterminate 'em!"Bush. A stupid decision by a brainwashed electorate.--rchandar [ Post Comment ] Comment #30 posted by FoM on December 20, 2004 at 12:25:40 PT Hope I never thought about LEAP's growth but it would be interesting to know. I have a problem with LEAP in that I have a problem with Cops in general. My sister was a police woman and she knows how I feel. Maybe LEAP is a guy type organization. I like to look at laws from a compassionate way rather then a criminal way if that makes sense. [ Post Comment ] Comment #29 posted by Hope on December 20, 2004 at 12:17:26 PT "LEOs who've had their consciences pricked" Kaptinemo, you said, "It will be interesting to see what feedback Ms. Harrop receives from LEOs who've had their consciences pricked and may feel the need to lash out at her for saying what many in the reform community have been saying for decades."I wonder if anyone knows, perhaps Mikeeee, if L.E.A.P. has ever noticed any spikes in membership growth. Has L.E.A.P.'s membership shown much growth in the last few years? I don't find anything about it at the website. [ Post Comment ] Comment #28 posted by kaptinemo on December 20, 2004 at 11:49:29 PT: The media is finally getting it And Ms. Harrop's article is the first I've seen in any popular media outlet that aims and squarely hits the target, bang-on: the 'gravy train'.Having worked as a Fed civil servant, I am only too well aware of the fact that a vast proportion of the consulting industry - which is essentially what Partnership for a Drug Free America is - peddles very expensive hot air. Paid for by the taxpayers, of course.And that many of those doing the peddling first got their expertise in doing so by working for the Feds to begin with. It's a tight, incestuous circle at work, and one that is becoming increasingly difficult to obfuscate and camouflage.It will be interesting to see what feedback Ms. Harrop receives from LEOs who've had their consciences pricked and may feel the need to lash out at her for saying what many in the reform community have been saying for decades. [ Post Comment ] Comment #27 posted by Hope on December 20, 2004 at 08:42:49 PT Margaret Mead If Margaret Mead was still alive I betcha she would be looking in on CannabisNews...both to study us...as a culture...and to join us. [ Post Comment ] Comment #26 posted by ekim on December 20, 2004 at 08:34:18 PT Hep C panel on now C-Span2--dir tv ch 351 Dec 22 04 Ada Rotary 12:00 PM Howard Wooldridge Ada Oklahoma USA The Ada Rotary welcomes Board Member Howard Wooldridge for lunch and discussion of the failures related to drug prohibition. January 2005 Jan 15 05 Texas Motorcycle Rights Association, Hood County Blues Chapter 06:30 PM Rusty White Granbury Texas USA The Hood County Blues Chapter of the Texas Motorcycle Rights Association welcomes Speaker Rusty White for discussion of the failure of drug prohibition. Jan 24 05 Rotary Club of Newfoundland 06:00 PM Peter Christ Newfoundland Pennsylvania USA Finding new followers for the dismantelling of the war on drugs, Board Member Peter Christ meets with members of the Rotary Club of Newfoundland. Jan 25 05 Yardley/LowerMakefield Lions Club 06:45 PM Peter Christ West Trenton New Jersey USA The Yardley/Lower Makefield Lions Club welcomes Board Member Peter Christ for discussion of the failures of drug prohibition. Jan 25 05 Wilkes-Barre East Rotary Club 07:45 AM Peter Christ Wilkes-Barre Pennsylvania USA The Wilkes-Barre East Rotary Club welcomes Board Member Peter Christ for breakfast and discussion of issues related to the failure of drug prohibition policies. Jan 25 05 Honesdale Rotary Club 12:00 PM Peter Christ Honesdale Pennsylvania USA The Honesdale Rotary Club welcomes Board Member Peter Christ for lunch and discussion of viable alternatives to the failure of America's war on drugs. http://www.leap.cc/events [ Post Comment ] Comment #25 posted by Hope on December 20, 2004 at 08:15:04 PT Thanks, Afterburner...I needed a dose of M. Mead Margaret Mead is wonderful. I loved that spunky little gal. She more than any other woman, I think, formed many of my ideas and beliefs. She was something. I had an almost reverent admiration of that woman."The need to work toward a world without war in which all humans have a stake was paramount in Mead's philosophy. "Those who still cling to the old, simple definition of patriotism have not yet recognized that since Hiroshima there cannot be winners and losers in a war, but only losers. And they are vocal out of desperation about a world they do not understand." Mead's challenge to Americans to cherish the cultures of the world was also a challenge to cherish our own, but to have the courage to change when our cultural tendencies become dysfunctional. Facing this task may be more formidable than any foreign military operation we could ever devise." [ Post Comment ] Comment #24 posted by afterburner on December 20, 2004 at 07:37:28 PT Globalization and World Wars The Marshall Plan after World War II was the second step to globalization, WWII being the first step (as Margaret Mead pointed out in one of her books, perhaps: New Lives for Old: Cultural Transformation-Manus, 1928-1953) wherein all world cultures, stoneage to modern, were suddenly thrust into the 20th century technological worldview. The US government "shared the wealth" to rebuild devastated economies and infrastructures with the goal of creating prosperous countries in a prosperous world.Flash forward to today's so-called globalization with the US fighting to recover its economic dominance. The US now fights rear guard actions against trade partners using illegal tariffs even though the WTO has repeatedly ruled against them. The US has pre-emptively invaded a sovereign nation, Iraq, on the flimsy pretext of still-not-found Weapons of Mass Destruction, to *secure* the oil fields. The public is fed the usual "bread and circuses," unlabelled Genetically Modified food and synthetic "reality" shows. "When did reality become TV?" --Bowling For Soup - 1985 Lyrics http://www.hugelyrics.com/lyrics/134696/Bowling_For_Soup/1985Bowling For Soup - 1985 Lyrics{Woo-hoo-hoo{Woo-hoo-hoo{Debbie just hit the wall She never had it all One Prozac a day Husbands a CPA Her dreams went out the door When she turned twenty four Only been with one man What happen to her plan?{She was gonna be an actress She was gonna be a star She was gonna shake her ass On the hood of White Snake's car Her yellow SUV, is now the enemy Looks at her average life And nothing, has been, alright{Since Bruce Springstein, Madonna Way before Nirvana There was U2, and Blondie And music still on MTV Her two kids, in high school They tell her that she's uncool But she still preoccupied With 19, 19, 1985{Woo-hoo-hoo{1985{Woo-hoo-hoo{She's seen all the classics She knows every line Breakfast Club, Pretty in Pink Even Saint Elmo's Fire She rocked out to wham Not a big Limp Biscuit fan Thought she'd get a hand On a member of Duran Duran{Where's the mini-skirt made of snake skin And who's the other guy singing in Van Halen When did reality, become T.V. What ever happen to sitcoms, game shows {On the radio was{Springstein, Madonna Way before Nirvana There was U2, and Blondie And music still on MTV Her two kids, in high school They tell her that she's uncool But she's still preoccupied With 19, 19, 1985{Woo-hoo-hoo{She hates time, make it stop When did Motley Crue become classic rock? And when did Ozzy become an actor? Please make this stop! Stop! Stop!{And bring back{Springstein, Madonna Way before Nirvana There was U2, and Blondie And music still on MTV Her two kids, in high school They tell her that she's uncool But she's still preoccupied With 1985{Bruce Springstein, Madonna Way before Nirvana There was U2, and Blondie And music still on MTV Her two kids, in high school They tell her that she's uncool But she's still preoccupied With 19, 19, 1985} There's a whole solar system out there to explore and exploit, and a universe beyond that. [The High Frontier by Gerard K. O'Neill http://www.space-frontier.org/HighFrontier/ ] But the PTB's would rather struggle in the mud, wrestling for scraps like the dogs under the royal table during the middle ages! Postscript to Sept. 11 -- What Would Margaret Mead Say? [ Post Comment ] Comment #23 posted by Hope on December 20, 2004 at 05:50:58 PT Dr Slider About reggae. Last Friday evening we had a little family party. We love to dance and act silly. We were playing all sorts of music, classic rock, blue grass, classic country, hip-hop, rap, blues, and reggae. We were dancing to it all. When we got to reggae, someone asked, "How do you dance to reggae?" So I attempted to do a little demo for them. To me and my dancer's spirit, dancing to reggae is all about smiling, swaying gently and having a huge ball of light and love in my arms and hands and spreading it and offering it to them all from a sincere heart. I think they "felt" it...I know I did. [ Post Comment ] Comment #22 posted by dr slider on December 19, 2004 at 23:59:47 PT: The last one is the most exciting There's a reason men called WWI "the war to end all wars". They were right that a world war would be the last. They were wrong in thinking that one would be enough for mankind. I applaud Mikeee in dismissing the fools/deceivers that call the cold war, "WWIII". This is about Trinity. What a great time to be alive. [ Post Comment ] Comment #21 posted by FoM on December 19, 2004 at 23:26:57 PT MikeEEEEE I just wanted to say that my feelings about George Bush are harsh. I hope that we can get thru this war without it turning into a global war. Why don't people who are our leaders try to look a little into the future and see the damage that could be done? Every action will have a reaction. If only Bush would have thought before he decided to invade a sovereign country. It's too late now. I was hoping that I would never see another war after Vietnam. That didn't happen though. [ Post Comment ] Comment #20 posted by mayan on December 19, 2004 at 20:24:56 PT unrelated For Tommy Chong, an old role - but now on New York stage: http://www.registerguard.com/news/2004/12/19/ar.chong.1219.htmlMonopoly? Scrabble? Grow-Op Game tries to weed out rivals: http://www.mytelus.com/news/article.do?pageID=cp_entertainment_home&articleID=1798085THE WAY OUT IS THE WAY IN...9/11 Conspiracy Theorist Offers $100,000 Prize: http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1896&u=/nm/20041215/us_nm/life_conspiracy_dc&printer=1First-hand Accounts of Underground Explosions In The North Tower: http://st12.startlogic.com/~xenonpup/underground/underground_explosions.htmThe Bush Family and 9/11: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/bush_family_911.htmlHow the USAF was Stood Down on 9/11: http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/usaf_911.html [ Post Comment ] Comment #19 posted by dr slider on December 19, 2004 at 20:00:41 PT: brother Richard Just saw Ricky on 60 min., having only read it prior to my first comment. Squirm was an understatement. Wallace could barely prevent himself from calling him a liar when he exclaimed that giving away money and all that comes with it is a path to happiness. EVERY revered and enduring text on human wisdom (the bible, tao te ching ,bagavad gita...) advises the sage to turn his/her back on the money changers. Since hearing my brother's Boston album, through my first album of the Blue Brothers, to quoting Pink Floyd in a manuscript written in '99, up until rather recently, I had been a devoted classic rock-n-roller for quite some. Then, as though my frequency was change, I opened up to reggae.Right before Dr Slider was manifested (2002) "that which I was" gave away the last $4000. It remains the wisest "decision" I've ever made. Rast on RickyThanks and Praise to Jah [ Post Comment ] Comment #18 posted by MikeEEEEE on December 19, 2004 at 19:50:07 PT Geogie boy Before George Bush stole the 1st presidency I spent a few minutes of my time to look him up. I found out he had the most people put to death (death sentences) as governor, out of any state in the union, ever. I also read that he had meetings with the Taliban while governor. George Bush is not a man of peace, and just think, 4 more years of him.Pray long and hard, this might be a tough one. [ Post Comment ] Comment #17 posted by FoM on December 19, 2004 at 19:39:51 PT MikeEEEEE I agree with all you said. What George Bush has done to the world is beyond anything I thought could possibly come from the United States. I'm not sure if Bush is really as dumb as he acts or is he so full of hate that killing is a release for him? I am doing my best not to watch how many are being killed in Iraq because we better get use to it. It has only just begun. Being at peace in the middle of it all is hard but necessary. What a world Bush has made for mankind. I say: Peace on Earth Good Will To Mankind! [ Post Comment ] Comment #16 posted by MikeEEEEE on December 19, 2004 at 19:23:37 PT FoM It's a culture war and competition from a plant. In the minds of the old farts in power, druggies = hippies. And lets not forget all the money power from their competitive friends (drug & beer companies) who would rather see you spend a $ then grow a plant for pennies.On another topic. In the middle east it's a culture war too.Global = world.If you replace global war on terror with world you get world war on terror. No matter how they spin it an american president started this global war #3. Of course the crazy arab knew he could trigger it by destroying a few american landmarks.Interesting times we live in. Let your own mind speak the truth, not the media.Make wishes for peace this holiday season. [ Post Comment ] Comment #15 posted by Hope on December 19, 2004 at 18:50:57 PT Ricky Williams A very admirable young man. [ Post Comment ] Comment #14 posted by FoM on December 19, 2004 at 18:20:03 PT Ricky Williams He literally glowed to me. He had real joy! He is searching and seems like he is finding and that above all things impressed me. I never saw him play football since I don't watch sports but it showed a good man in Ricky Williams to me. rchandar you're right and it makes me feel like I can't connect much anymore with how things are in America. I always wanted to be apart of America but it's impossible I guess. [ Post Comment ] Comment #13 posted by dr slider on December 19, 2004 at 18:12:16 PT: Ricky What a great article about a great man, and I'm not talkin' about Wallace. Its such tragomedy watching people squirm in discomfort when someone walks the Walk, challenging them to examine the illusions they hold as sacred truth.Humility is just a nice notion, I guess. [ Post Comment ] Comment #12 posted by rchandar on December 19, 2004 at 18:08:39 PT: FoM no--It's a war of murder, destruction, and ruination of family and friends. And we should always remember this, how the Drug War destroyed viable human life, family after family, friend after friend.These were all good people. What was wrong with them? That they smoked a few joints? It's just shameful, how the government can come in and destroy our lives, lives that we worked hard to make them something and show love to those who loved us.--rchandar [ Post Comment ] Comment #11 posted by FoM on December 19, 2004 at 17:49:45 PT Ricky Williams Life After NFL: Ricky Williams TalksExcerpt from Article:Beyond the dreadlocks, Williams named one of his daughters Marley, and he and his hero have something else in common: hash. "He smoked a lot of it. I have done the same," says Williams. Could he pass an NFL drug test today? "No," says Williams. "So you still smoke marijuana. Anything worse than that," asks Wallace. "Worse? What do you mean by worse," says Williams. "Something I have sweets, sugar. Sometimes I have a glass of wine. But that's about it." Complete Article: http://cbsnewyork.com/topstories/topstories_story_354200818.html [ Post Comment ] Comment #10 posted by FoM on December 19, 2004 at 17:23:20 PT JSM I am not into sports at all but this young man seems so together. What a great interview. Thank you. It's good to see you. [ Post Comment ] Comment #9 posted by JSM on December 19, 2004 at 16:49:50 PT RICKY WILLIAMS 60 Minutes, CBS is doing an interview with Ricky Williams. [ Post Comment ] Comment #8 posted by FoM on December 19, 2004 at 15:24:51 PT Just a Thought It isn't a Drug War. It should be called by those in power what it really is.It's a war on people who experiment with drugs. [ Post Comment ] Comment #7 posted by global_warming on December 19, 2004 at 15:21:07 PT Tandy "The money in illicit drugs doesn't all go to bad guys carrying AK-47s and driving BMWs. About $69 billion of it last year went to police, federal agents, judges, jailers and other drug-law enforcers across the United States. " to fight the Drug War.Imagine, $69 Billion American Tax Dollars, this amount of money boggles ones imagination, especially when somewhere down that dollar chain, you find, that me and you, are putting our money up to the bar to support this drug war industry."As we celebrate the 30th anniversary of the Drug Enforcement Administration, the men and women of DEA are unwavering in their courage and their resolve to protect this country and our children. But it is our partnerships in DEA that are essential to that success - ones with our foreign and our federal colleagues, with our state and local law enforcement, with elected leaders, with private industry and with our ordinary citizens...To ensure the safety and security of our future generations we all must hearken to our nation's call to duty. At DEA we will do our share, and then some. We will work hard to track down the $65 billion each year in blood money that supports the evil operations of these trafficking organizations. We will bring a new strategic and global vision to the drug enforcement fight." http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/speeches/s091603.htmlI cannot connect the dots, how an electronic business heir would have such resolve in these matters, perhaps, the Tandy Inc, has roots in the alcohol business, Yahoo Finance might reveal the "business" aspects of this women and her sources of power that guide her world view.Business, in the current perception, has been allowed to drag humanity to the lowest level of morailty in the history of this world. There have always been isolated events and individuals that have attempted to gain control and reap their unholy harvest, but these few, have always been discovered and brought to justice.In today's world, the same usurpers of human dignity have worked ceaselessly to exploit the "loopholes" in every system, so that they can conduct business in the disgraceful manner that is currently on your favorite channel on tv.As I walked out from my nearest Walmart today, I observed a large family of what looked like, Mexicans, what caught my eye, was a man carrying a small basket, which held a small child. What caught my heart and soul, was our similarities, our commonness, our brotherhood, our fears about strangers slowly, was cast aside by the gentle swaying of that little cradle, held by the hands of that man.Motto: The rich get richer and the poor get poorer...End the war on people...End the war on drugs....End the war on Liberty... [ Post Comment ] Comment #6 posted by MikeEEEEE on December 19, 2004 at 13:15:10 PT $$$$$$ Take away the money motives on both sides and problem solved (legalize). [ Post Comment ] Comment #5 posted by E_Johnson on December 19, 2004 at 10:27:50 PT The saddest irony of all The police see horrible things on the job all the time, they get to intervene in humanity's most desperate and frightening moments. They walk around filled with pain and fear every day. And they're making war against the plant that could heal their pain.They're getting rich on their own misery. That is the saddest irony of all here. [ Post Comment ] Comment #4 posted by Deboche on December 19, 2004 at 07:52:07 PT Poverty? Famine? Peace? Who needs 69 billion anyway? I bet no one can find a better use for it [ Post Comment ] Comment #3 posted by goneposthole on December 19, 2004 at 05:48:58 PT choose freedom Think they're in it for the money?choose cannabis [ Post Comment ] Comment #2 posted by global_warming on December 19, 2004 at 04:14:32 PT Battle of Addictions It seems there is another type of addiction, the addiction the drug warrior has for the money that is generated by the drug war. I say not on my tax dollar. End the drug war, let these cops start going after the REAL bad people, the violent people, the rapists, bank robbers, and the corporate and government corruption in this America. [ Post Comment ] Comment #1 posted by dr slider on December 19, 2004 at 00:41:28 PT: no end game clue here Between this civil war in which neither side is backing down and the culture war of the pseudo-Xians (can't confuse Christness with those id-iots) the lines become clearer.We've to become inperturbably unsurprisable.As long as we slide within Love what have we to fear? Not even Nothing. [ Post Comment ] Post Comment